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Miscellaneous | June 15, 2010 | Comments (60)


There’s a study in the most recent issue of Archives of Sexual Behavior titled Evidence to Suggest That Copulatory Vocalizations in Women Are Not Reflexive Consequence of Orgasm that’s been generating some attention on the internet this past week or so. Io9.com published an article on the study, based on what seems to be a relatively shallow reading of the paper, titled Scientists try to prove that women manipulate men with noises during sex, and then nerve.com picked up the story and titled their brief summary (which, as far as I can tell is based on even less information from the actual paper than the io9 write-up) The female orgasm is revealed to be a man-controlling ruse. It’s like an internet game of telephone, with the summaries getting more sensationalized and farther from the actual study with each iteration. The study itself is not without problems, but it’s not quite what these reports are making it out to be either.

The original paper looked at the survey responses of 71 women to questions about when they experienced orgasm (during self-masturbation, masturbation by a partner, oral sex, or penetration), when they were most vocal during sex, and their reasons for vocalizing. The results indicated that the women surveyed were more likely to orgasm during masturbation, foreplay, or afterplay than penetrative sex, but that they were most vocal during sex, especially just before or at the same time as their partner’s orgasm (it isn’t entirely clear from the paper, but it seems that the study focused specifically on heterosexual women, so the partners in question are assumed to be men). The researchers concluded that the timing of sex vocalizations are unrelated to the woman’s orgasm and are instead a way to “manipulate male behavior to their advantage.” That brief quote is what’s causing a lot of the misunderstanding in the reporting of this study. Scientists tend to use words in technical write-ups like this one in very specific ways that aren’t necessarily the same as their more colloquial meaning. Here, manipulate just means “to control or influence.” There’s no assumption on the part of the researchers that the women are behaving in a devious manner, but since “manipulate,” tends to have a negative connotation in most contexts, that seems to be the way people are reading it. Given our culture’s lingering (and obnoxious) assumption that women use sex primarily to manipulate men (in the negative-connotation way), it’s understandable that this terminology causes a knee-jerk reaction from casual readers of the study, but the study’s results and conclusions are actually pretty innocuous.

That said, this study is pretty questionable in my opinion. First of all, 71 is a ridiculously small sample size. Any results based on a sample this small are likely to have some pretty large errors, and it’s impossible to draw any sort of hard conclusions from such a sample. Second, the survey was conducted using “opportunity sampling,” which basically means that the researchers went around asking people they ran into whether they would take the survey. This is a relatively easy way to get responses, but it doesn’t exactly yield a statistically random sample. Then again, few surveys about sex have a decent chance at that, given the general population’s reticence about the topic, so it’s tough to tell how much of an effect this method would have on the results. More importantly, the reasons for the non-orgasm related vocalizations aren’t very well explored. Sixty-six percent of the women surveyed reported that they used such noises to speed up their partner’s orgasm in order to “relieve discomfort/pain, boredom, and fatigue.” There’s nothing in here that says these women are faking orgasms specifically, by the way, just that they are being loud during sex to help things along, presumably because they aren’t big enough assholes to just say, “Are you finished yet?” Nor does the paper indicate how often these women do so (i.e. if this is something they do every time or just occasionally). That’s the sort of information needed to really analyze results like these accurately.

The researchers also found that 87 percent of the respondents used sounds to boost their partner’s self esteem, but again, no details are given, in terms of frequency or deeper motivations. This could be women deliberately advertising their enjoyment to their partners or it could involve women faking enjoyment to keep their partner happy - the paper doesn’t distinguish between these possibilities. Sadly, there’s also no exploration of other possible reasons for such vocalizations, and it doesn’t appear as if the initial survey asked directly about any other possible reasons (unless an “other” option counts). Off the top of my head I could suggest several additional potential reasons for these vocalizations - like that sex feels good even when you aren’t cumming; that some women view sex as performance art and are vocalizing to turn on their partner in order to boost their own self esteem; or that women are using vocalizations deliberately to signal that something feels good so their partner keeps doing whatever it is that stimulates them (a perennial suggestion of lady mags, possibly the only useful one).

None of those reasons, by the way, are necessarily mutually exclusive. Probably the truth for many women involves a complicated mixture of some or all of those things. It seems pretty sloppy to me to neglect all these possible reasons, but it’s possible that this study was deliberately designed to just address the very narrow question of whether women tried to influence the timing of their partners’ orgasms. The evidence does suggest that not only do men respond to these vocalizations, but that the timing of male ejaculation is related to vocalizations in other primates as well. The researchers, by the way, are careful not to read too much into their results. The discussion section of the paper, in fact, merely states that, “at least one component of female copulatory vocalizations is not a reflexive consequence of orgasm,” (italics mine).

So yeah, men get off faster when their partners sound like they’re enjoying sex, and women sometimes use this to influence the timing of men’s orgasms. That’s not exactly a controversial claim, and while I do think the statistics of this article are suspect, I don’t doubt that this is in fact a relatively common practice. Similarly, the idea that women might try to signal to their partners that they are enjoying fucking them by exaggerating the sounds they make during sex is neither surprising nor particularly alarming. In my experience (warning! Anecdotal evidence ahead!), men do this too. A lot of men tend to be naturally quiet in bed, but many train themselves to be more vocal for the benefit or their partners. After all, it’s just as disconcerting for women to not be able to tell if their partner is having fun or just going silently through the motions, so some men accommodate women’s egos by deliberately vocalizing. Maybe to a lesser extent than women do, but there’s no reason to think this is something exclusive to women. It would be interesting to see a study that investigated this question more in depth (and with a much larger sample size), one that looked at other possible reasons for vocalizations of both women and men, and included those who don’t identify as straight.

Dr. Pisaster has a doctorate in biophysics, not actually anything sexy. She does however enjoy having sex, reading about sex, and talking about sex. Especially when she’s had a little whiskey.


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Comments

Good god, it's too early for that picture!

Posted by: AmbroseKalifornia at June 15, 2010 4:18 PM

The vocalization thing works pretty well on me at times, though too much vocalizing just DESTROYS the moment. Damn, woman, you want the cops to think I'm killing you?!

And yeah: I'm one of the super quiet ones.

Posted by: ahamos at June 15, 2010 4:24 PM

I am so overjoyed with this new inclusion on Pajiba. Dr Pisaster is always so articulate and intriguing in her topics.

I can safely, and without shame, admit that I have upped the vocal adrenaline in order to speed things up. I'm guessing the hubs knows it at times, and guess what? He has an orgasm, smiles and goes on with life. It isn't exactly an insult, especially because I am not faking it, merely turning up the volume.

I think any and all sexual exertions can be seen as rungs on the adrenaline ladder, really. You hold down my arms, I wrap my legs around your waist. You kiss my collarbone, I moan and writhe. I flip you over, you grab my ass. On and on, accelarating the fun and the energy until you climax.

Posted by: Patty O'Green at June 15, 2010 4:27 PM

My friend once dated a screamer, said he dumped her because she was so damn annoying.

Posted by: A-schaef at June 15, 2010 4:30 PM

See, this is why I always bring a spare gag ball.

Posted by: Brian at June 15, 2010 4:32 PM

Nearly all the sounds I make during sex are either to encourage my partner or signal that something good is happening and should continue happening. I do this on purpose because years of having to sneak around have made me very quiet otherwise.
Also, once when I was a kid I was playing over at a friend's house and overheard her Dad talking to one of his friends about how his wife just laid there and was very quiet and how much it freaked him out and how much it was ruining their sex life.
So while I'm not a shrieker or anything, there's definitely a bit of a performance going on.

Posted by: king at June 15, 2010 4:32 PM

Off the top of my head I could suggest several additional potential reasons for these vocalizations - like that sex feels good even when you aren’t cumming; that some women view sex as performance art and are vocalizing to turn on their partner in order to boost their own self esteem; or that women are using vocalizations deliberately to signal that something feels good so their partner keeps doing whatever it is that stimulates them

Yes.

Manipulate is a funny word out of the context of a scientific study. It makes me think that some people interpret the results and then imagine women twirling mustaches whilst moaning theatrically to induce their dude's orgasm. Dance, puppet, DANCE! And careful of my sheets!

Posted by: Julie at June 15, 2010 4:35 PM

Dammit, I gotta stop reading these.

Posted by: Jay at June 15, 2010 4:39 PM

Also, being loud (ish) makes me feel more involved, especially if he's on top. I can't imagine laying there super quiet other than when my roommate is home.* I'd feel bad, as if I were trying to convey boredom or something. Although, he's pretty silent until the end and that doesn't bother me.

*Or when I think she's STILL gone, as per Sunday. I can only pray that my air conditioner muffled...stuff.

Posted by: Julie at June 15, 2010 4:40 PM

I admit, I'm pretty much silent when I'm alone, but I vocalize when I'm with my partner. I don't think it is "manipulative" though - I think it of it more as reward and encouragement. You have to give your partner some kind of real-time feedback so they know they're getting it right and it would be difficult to form coherent sentences at a time like that. Not to mention, fairly unsexy.

Posted by: peachfish at June 15, 2010 4:50 PM

Sexy noises like moans, dirty talk, and growls (aural stimulation) are just the sonic equivalent of stroking your partner, showing them your goodies (striptease anyone?), the taste of sex, or smell of it. We're turned on by all five senses, why does my favorite get the bad rap? (there's nothing like hearing how badly he needs me, why would he feel any differently?) As a part of sex, any of these things can be used to manipulate, but no human action is manipulative without intent. A study about one sense alone is silly, how about an overall study about the motivation women (or people in general) have when turning their partner on, any way they choose to do so? I'm sure the "shocking" results would show that sexual satisfaction is higher in couplings were both partners are aroused and feel like they've contributed to their partner's feelings of arousal. (Gasp!)

There's a reason for those insane noises they make in pornos, they get the blood and juices flowing!

Posted by: Bonnye at June 15, 2010 4:51 PM

The mean age of the women questioned was 21, give or take half a year. I don't know about the rest of ya, but I was not a fully self-actualized sex kitten by the age of 21. I was still a dumb kid, but with expanded access to booze and bad life choices. Although I don't think the two were mutually exclusive back then. There was extensive overlap. Moist, hot, sticky overlap.

Posted by: Ulterior Motive Girl at June 15, 2010 4:51 PM

THE DAY EVERYTHING CHANGED
A book on tape.
Written and illustrated by Adventureman.

Chapter 1: http://www.pajiba.com/miscellaneous/pajiba-after-dark-61410.php#comments


Chapter 2

Once I got inside I stopped and surveyed the area. Just my luck, not an empty seat. As I turned to leave, I heard my name. I turned around quickly and locked eyes with the most unattractive species on this planet. The creature stuck his hand out to greet me.

"Name's Cornelious Heaxelbean, but people around these parts just call me 'Shadow'"

I could literally see the stink lines coming off his faded shirt.

"Do I know you?" I replied, taking his hand hesitently.

"Nope, but I know you. How's about we get aquanted over some brewskies and maybe later an orgy."

I stared at him blankly.

"An orgy???!1?! Uhhhh....not so sure about that one. How many people are coming?"

He took a second to think.

"Three if you bring your girlfriend har har"

I continued to stare.

"Oh" I said without expression. "I see what you did there."

"Twus a test to see your true character. I ask if you want an orgy and if you say no, I know I can trust you. If you say yes, than I have sex with you and we never talk again. 'Ol bushman's trick that."

"You're fucked."

"Not yet" he replied with a wink. "Let's take a seat over there and i'll explain everying."

"uh, well actually I was about to leave..."

"Just give me ten minutes. It'll be the most valuable ten minutes of your life. I promise."

I thought about this for a while. I had no job, no friends and no dreams. What did I have to lose?
"Ten minutes."

He smiled. "Thank you"

It was Shadow’s victory, really. His belief was the thing that got us through. And in that moment I saw the years lift from him. He was a puppy again, reunited with his best friend. As we turned to go inside the house, a strange new feeling came over me. I had a family. And I had found out that sacrifice and friendship and even love were more than just the mushy stuff. At last, for the first time in my life-I was home……Turkey!!!!

Posted by: Adventureman at June 15, 2010 4:55 PM

It takes something really major to make me vocalize. Like, if you want noise, you'd better be a big fucking deal.*

Also, as Veronica from Better Off Ted advises: "You should always limit what you say during sex to moaning and helpful tips."

*no pun intended. But yeah, kinda.

Posted by: esme at June 15, 2010 4:56 PM

they used such noises to speed up their partner’s orgasm in order to “relieve discomfort/pain, boredom, and fatigue.”

Yes.

used sounds to boost their partner’s self esteem,

YES!!

women are using vocalizations deliberately to signal that something feels good so their partner keeps doing whatever it is that stimulates them

YES! YES! YES!

women might try to signal to their partners that they are enjoying fucking them by exaggerating the sounds they make during sex

OH MY FUCKING GOD, YES!!!

Posted by: Lindsey with an 'e' at June 15, 2010 4:59 PM

I'm super quiet, but I have an ex-girlfriend who's pretty vocal. I always thought it was really hot, and also an easy way to gauge her enjoyment of whatever was going on. But I'm not a dude, so maybe I'm immune to the evil man controlling manipulation. Actually, I've always felt kind of bad about being so quiet during sex. Maybe I'll try being noisier with the next person I get involved with.

Posted by: whoeveriam at June 15, 2010 5:04 PM

I still make a little noise when I'm alone. I have to make an effort not to make some noise. At that moment I thought everyone just sort of lets out at least a little moaning. During sex though, yeah I definitely play it up a bit. Not loud but consistent and breathy. Purely for the purposes of turning him on. Guess what, I'm not this blonde naturally either! Escandalo! I'm such a manipulator.

Posted by: becks at June 15, 2010 5:04 PM

Lindsey with an 'e', you are my hero.

And to quote from the Best of Craigslist > Seattle:

"5. It's OK for you to make noise. Otherwise, we feel like we are fucking a ninja. Unless you actually are a ninja, and have sneaked into our rooms with vibrating nanuchaku and zippered black pajamas, please, please make some noise. If you're banging a woman, and she's crying out and saying your name and moaning, and you can't even manage a grunt, she's going to feel like an idiot. You don't have to make the sounds she is making, but do SOMETHING...You don't have to grunt like a mountain gorilla, but if you are totally mute, she's going to get worried. "

Posted by: Salieri2 at June 15, 2010 5:10 PM

but that the timing of male ejaculation is related to vocalizations in other primates as well

I read this and at first thought that any primate vocalization would make speed up human male ejaculation.

Hey ladies, got the laryngitis? Want your man to perform in a timely manner, but you've lost your vocal mojo? Here's a CD of monkey screeching on repeat. Problem solved.

Thing is, it made sense to me for a while before I decided to reread the sentence.

Posted by: MyySharona at June 15, 2010 5:15 PM

Ah. I love games of scientific telephone. It's the equivalent of reading an essay by a student who was taught the subject by another student who read the Wikipedia page on the subject. Always good for a laugh and a facepalm.

Posted by: Robert at June 15, 2010 5:17 PM

I feel sorry for all the deaf people.

Posted by: peanut at June 15, 2010 5:19 PM

Well, there are times to be quiet. Very, very, quiet. Non-private Locations, close quarters, people around, nosy waiters...

One of the HOTTEST things ever:
Don't make a sound. If you make a sound, I will stop.
Don't move. If you move, I will stop....


Posted by: Lindsey with an 'e' at June 15, 2010 5:22 PM

We're turned on by all five senses, why does my favorite get the bad rap?

Well, some people are turned on by the sixth sense.

Turns out those people are necrophiliacs and/or M. Night Shyamalan.

Posted by: branded at June 15, 2010 5:27 PM

It's been long enough for me that I make a mess whenever somebody smiles and says "H'lo." I've taken to staring at the ground a lot...

Posted by: Skitz at June 15, 2010 5:27 PM

Well, some people are turned on by the sixth sense.

Turns out those people are necrophiliacs and/or M. Night Shyamalan.

http://instantrimshot.com/

Posted by: Lindsey with an 'e' at June 15, 2010 5:29 PM

Spot on, Adventureman.

I once lived down the hall from a guy who would make loud moans and screams while sexing his girlfriend. From what I understand, she was embarrassed by it, and tried to shut him up. Sexy when a woman vocalizes, decidedly unsexy when a man does it.

Posted by: logar at June 15, 2010 5:29 PM

I like it when dudes vocalize. What I don't like is too much talking. Um - shut up, I'm trying to enjoy myself, here!

I have to try hard not to make noise, when I'm tossing the one bean salad, or when I'm with a guy (and he's doing things right). No pleasure, no noise.

Posted by: rhino at June 15, 2010 5:44 PM

"See, this is why I always bring a spare gag ball."

See, this is why you'll always be alone.

Posted by: Craig at June 15, 2010 5:50 PM

Don't know how to be quiet, but then again, years of vocal training are hard to shake off. When you are in the moment, sound just happens. Reason #547 why dating an actress can be fun!

In terms of the study, I'd file that under D for "Duh." Of course vocalizing correlates with a desired outcome! How else do you communicate to a partner that what he or she is doing is hitting the mark? Semaphore flags?

Posted by: Tammy at June 15, 2010 6:01 PM

I always hated the guys who had a goddamn script in their heads, and they'd "helpfully" tell me my lines.

Sorry, buddy, but I'm not your meat puppet. I'm willing to play along but PLEASE allow me to improvise, m'kay?

Although all this is a distant memory these days....

Posted by: Wednesday at June 15, 2010 6:03 PM

Archives of Sexual Behavior

Yeah, I got one of those too.

Posted by: Che Grovera at June 15, 2010 6:09 PM

Guh! I’m losing my lurker status here people! Damn you, Pajiba!

Something about this just doesn’t sit right with me. I’ll be honest that I am more quite when I am alone, and that I do get some significant volume when things are going well with a partner. And yes, I have used vocalization as an encouragement for partners who aren’t performing up to speed in order to hasten the conclusion. That said if I’m being honest, most of my vocalization is not deliberate, it’s part of the abandon, can’t remember my own first name, do that again-ness of it all.

On the occasion that silence with partner is required, it’s never really that good, because I have to concentrate on not making noise. I think I would find it distracting if he was a shouter, but the little grunts and sharp exhales he makes are reaffirming that I’m doing what he likes. What else are we supposed to do? I don’t want to feel like I’m having sex with the GPS from my car, “in 30 seconds, caress balls”. For the most part if I'm moaning, it’s because you are doing something that makes me moan. I’d wager I’m not alone in that regard.

Posted by: indarchandra at June 15, 2010 6:17 PM

I've taken to staring at the ground a lot...

Stare....at..ground...

gotcha.

Posted by: Rykker at June 15, 2010 6:29 PM

Great article! I love you for this sentence:

Scientists tend to use words in technical write-ups like this one in very specific ways that aren’t necessarily the same as their more colloquial meaning.

moan.

Posted by: SBrown at June 15, 2010 6:42 PM

I had a college boyfriend who was ENTIRELY too loud. Embarrassingly loud. I have no idea why in the hell he was screaming so much all the time. It's like someone lit him on fire and he was slowly actually burning to death while giving me the business.

I couldn't take it. He was so incredible in so many ways, but that yelling was just...it made me cringe. That and his calling me Lisa from time to time made me dump him.

Posted by: Snuggiepants at June 15, 2010 6:43 PM

Oh and what about guys who enjoy a bit of talk? What if it helps a guy out to hear the woman say certain things at certain times? Nothing wrong with that!

Posted by: Snuggiepants at June 15, 2010 6:44 PM

On a more serious note, vocalization during sex is one of those Goldilocks things: too much or too little can throw everything off. A woman's body will disclose all of its secrets if you're aware and adventurous, but a soundtrack adds depth to the experience. The store mannequin type makes you wonder if you're doing anything right -- I've found it to be initially challenging but ultimately de-motivating ("why don't you just go fuck yourself") -- but the screamer can be equally off-putting (as noted by ahamos). There should be some sort of reasonable correlation between the stimulus and the feedback, you know? Of course, situational constraints apply; the person in the next room never rarely appreciates waking up to that.

Posted by: Che Grovera at June 15, 2010 6:51 PM

Generally, and personally, speaking, I would say that one of the reasons that people are less vocal during masturbation is to avoid waking their parents/brother or sister/room-mate.

I love it when a woman moans, gasps, grips me with her thighs, rakes her nails down my back, and any other expression of ecstasy!

I moan and grunt (not too great an expression, but hey!), and try to express my desire for my partner as best I can.

I prefer talking during the run-up and foreplay, it helps guide me to a partner's fave areas to be touched/licked/nuzzled.

I hate professional porn, because the performers over-do the moans and screams, I start criticising the acting. I would rather watch a real orgasm.

Posted by: frank (aka frank_247 aka the lone Scotsman) at June 15, 2010 7:36 PM

Snuggiepants...do you live in Iowa? If not, oddly enough, I've accidently called an ex Lisa on multiple occassions. But, I'm not overly loud - so, I'm not sure about this.

Women that are silent bother the hell out of me. I have no idea if you're in to what's going on or not. It's come downt to the point where if a women is silent, I'm not having fun, and you get kicked out of my place. Case in point: woman from Saturday.

*OR*

Silent women bring the competitive side out in me. I will *try* to get some noise out of you.

Sadly, the former happens in my brain more often than the latter. *sigh*

Posted by: Zerath at June 15, 2010 7:41 PM

Zerath, no. It's not you. I looked him up via our university alum site and he's still living in this state, married and teaching middle school history (which somehow I cannot imagine).

Posted by: Snuggiepants at June 15, 2010 7:55 PM

About the only time Mrs. , vocalizes is when she tells me to shut the fuck up.

Posted by: , at June 15, 2010 9:32 PM

Yeah, you ladies want a great orgasm, and I want to fuck Bonnie Bedelia.

Posted by: Pookie at June 15, 2010 9:36 PM

Posted by: Lindsey with an 'e' at June 15, 2010 4:59 PM
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You're getting a cleaning bill for these pants.

Posted by: , at June 15, 2010 9:39 PM

Well, you can't spell 'manipulate' without 'man'-or 'pula'.

71 people? I probably got coughed on by more than 71 people in the subway this afternoon. Haw, I don't join the fray until my academic indignation alights--NERD!

But really? Where is the exact spot where this was done? Was it in front of P.J. O'Pub'n'Stuff's Knicker-Dropper and Grill, or in the middle of a catechism study? If they're only documenting the data on voluteers, doesn't that skew it highly? I'm more plexiglass than human, so I wouldn't opt in if approached. Doesn't that say a lot? What time of day was it carried out? What day of the week? What kind of neighbourhood or district was sampled? What kind of school or workplace supports them? What kind of background stuff did they record beside age? Race or ethnicity? Origin of birth? Family makeup? Were issues about sexuality addressed at home? Could it have been? How was it addressed at school and within one's social group? Well, it goes on, but it just seems really flawed to me.

We balk at how Freud's findings led him to the conclusion that 'women are like this, because I have observed...', and enter in his findings based on the slimmest of sampling parameters. I don't know, maybe I don't know what I'm talking about (highly likely), but don't people take stats classes so they don't run into these kinds of issues? And this bio-telephone gag? Hm. I just find it jarring that 'research into human sexuality' and 'exquisite corpse' have ended up in the same sentence.

Posted by: Jo 'Mama' Besser at June 15, 2010 10:14 PM

it’s impossible to draw any sort of hard conclusions from such a sample

Sigh, that's what she told me last night...

Posted by: Uriah Creep at June 15, 2010 10:26 PM

You're getting a cleaning bill for these pants.

You're welcome.

Posted by: Lindsey with an 'e' at June 15, 2010 11:36 PM

I tend to laugh a lot during sex.

What?

Posted by: DeistBrawler at June 15, 2010 11:59 PM

As in maniacal laughter, or "hey, this tickles my doodle-bits"?

Posted by: ahamos at June 16, 2010 12:16 AM

It all depends on so much. My first long term lover experience also happened to be a roommate experience. We were therefore pretty quiet, as we did not want to broadcast to the different roommates. We were together quite frequently over a period of five years, and we were generally pretty quiet. I became expert at biting the pillow.

Fast forward 20 years, and (having just met up again) he finds that being "too loud" is a bit vulgar - just bite a pillow or something!!! I find it funny, because it's all about what you are used to, and perhaps exposed to when you were first experiencing sex.

If a guy likes me to scream at the top of my lungs, I'm all for it, as long as we're both getting off. If he prefers I bite the pillow, I'm biting the pillow, same thing goes. I'm adaptable and enthusiastic. That counts for a lot!

Posted by: ncnn at June 16, 2010 12:20 AM

I tend to laugh during really good sex. Probably has something to do with being with a guy for 12 years who didn't like sex. Now that I get to actually HAVE IT again, sometimes I laugh when things are AMAZING. That laughter means, "Wow, how did I go without THIS for 12 years?!?"

Oh, and, "Thank you!"

Posted by: ncnn at June 16, 2010 12:24 AM

Another possible reason for women vocalising more during partner-penetrative sex - when you're being pile-driven into the mattress, air is being forced out of you, meaning that one involuntarily grunts/moans in time to the thrusting, especially when underneath one's partner. Thrusting generally increases in tempo and intensity when a guy is close to orgasm, therefore it is logical that the grunting/moaning would intensify.

My vocalising during partner sex is definitely highly linked to communicating to my partner when I'm enjoying something, and also linked to trying to increase his/her arousal when I want them to come. But I intuitively feel (not based on any scientific data or research, obviously) that vocalisation is linked to a physical component as well. I think this research is mildly interesting, but essentially meaningless without a) a larger and more diverse sample size and b) additional studies on sample groups of non-hetero individuals.

In general, my impression of the study was that it was interesting, but extremely shallow and inconclusive, and ends up prompting more questions than it answers.

Posted by: koj at June 16, 2010 12:25 AM

I simply cannot be silent, even when alone, which means that I had to gag myself with pillows and stuffed animals during adolescence. It's more of a whimper going solo, but with a partner a lot of moans and occasional exclamations. I don't think I've ever actually screamed.

The hubby, on the other hand, is naturally the silent type. He can experience a forceful orgasm yet emit barely more than a grunt or two. This was REALLY hard for me to deal with the first few dozen times or so that we had sex. I had to wean myself off of asking "does that feel good? do you like this?" to get some sort of gauge on him. If the sex had been horrible, I would have moved on, but it was always great, so I stuck it out and got over it. I like to think we balance each other out. Our apartment neighbors, if they can hear us, probably think I'm just a serial masturbator.

Posted by: MB at June 16, 2010 8:01 AM

I'm a bit distracted by fighting my knee-jerk reaction to the half-arsed nature of the study (71?! Was it the undergrad's prac class?) and the media's interpretation (grrr..), so I'm going to make this brief:

No, I don't deliberately 'perform'. But if a bit of vocalisation increases his pleasure, there's really no reason to bite my lip, is there?

Posted by: ScienceGeek at June 16, 2010 8:05 AM

This sounds like another one of those studies along the lines of "heat makes you hot". What a shock that one partner making sexy noises has a postive impact on the other partners experience.

Posted by: EricD at June 16, 2010 11:04 AM

@Diestbrawler

Some women don't mind that since they laugh during sex, too. But, wow. I freaked a girlfriend out once when I smiled at her during sex (she looked gorgeous and I couldn't believe I was in that situation). So, yeah. Apparently, some women prefer silence and straight faces.

Weirdos.

Posted by: Zerath at June 16, 2010 12:51 PM

Vocalization during sex? Hmmm....if it involves some moans and groans and a little dirty talk, I'm all for it. If however it involves a woman asking me if I think she's beautiful every thirty seconds, or asking me if she's the best she's ever had, or her dismounting after a reverse cowgirl and expecting me to judge her landing like the Russian judge at the Olympics? NO! Sorry....had a painful flashback. I'll go back to lurking now...

Posted by: TheBlackMenace at June 16, 2010 1:55 PM

Dammit, I read that as a Russian gymnast and, um, they're very bendy. I think I need to go to the bathroom for a few minutes. I'll try to be extra quiet.

Posted by: ahamos at June 16, 2010 2:33 PM

Okay, now I'm curious:
Do guys do the same thing?
Any men here find they're a litle more vocal for their partner's benefit?
Anybody?
Bueller?

Posted by: ScienceGeek at June 16, 2010 6:56 PM

Green Zone was an quality film, watched it at the movie theater and will be adding to my collection at home.I would say its not your ordinary war flick and matt damon and jason issacs are very good in it .There is some suprising humorous bits in to, in my opinion matt damon is far better in this than any of the bourne films.

Posted by: Marion Flecha at June 17, 2010 9:00 PM

men (usually) like to know that what they're doing makes a woman feel good. Mystery solved.

Posted by: Faye at June 19, 2010 10:58 PM





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