When Democratic strategist James Carville married Republican strategist Mary Matalin back in 1993, it was a different time. The two could spar on cable television, but return to their homes and go about their days as a married couple (and the two remain married, with two kids).
But this Kellyanne Conway and George Conway business? I am literally blown away by the ability of the couple to compartmentalize. They’re both Republicans. But he hates Trump, and she is one of Trump’s most high profile advisors. George Conway regularly calls out Donald Trump, while his wife regularly calls out her own husband and suggests that he is just attacking the President to draw attention to himself, and then they go home together and have dinner.
George Conway, however, has been very successful at drawing attention to himself. When Donald Trump used Twitter to witness tamper yesterday, George Conway called him out for it.
“Michael Cohen asks judge for no Prison Time.” You mean he can do all of the TERRIBLE, unrelated to Trump, things having to do with fraud, big loans, Taxis, etc., and not serve a long prison term? He makes up stories to get a GREAT & ALREADY reduced deal for himself, and get…..— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 3, 2018
….his wife and father-in-law (who has the money?) off Scott Free. He lied for this outcome and should, in my opinion, serve a full and complete sentence.— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 3, 2018
“I will never testify against Trump.” This statement was recently made by Roger Stone, essentially stating that he will not be forced by a rogue and out of control prosecutor to make up lies and stories about “President Trump.” Nice to know that some people still have “guts!”— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 3, 2018
There’s a lot to unpack in those tweets, but George Conway didn’t need 280 characters, or even 140 characters to make his point:
File under “18 U.S.C. §§ 1503, 1512” https://t.co/e4ZGVn1kJi— George Conway (@gtconway3d) December 3, 2018
That is the federal statute for witness tampering, and Conway should know. He’s not just any lawyer. He was on Trump’s shortlist to be the Solicitor General.
Conway, who I assume by virtue of his marriage, knows at least a little about what goes on in the White House from his wife, was on a roll yesterday, brazenly retweeting others accusing Trump of witness tampering and/or illustrating fear in the face of the Mueller probe. He retweeted the following:
You scared, bro? https://t.co/nZri0HwvPT— Bradley P. Moss (@BradMossEsq) December 3, 2018
Lots of signaling happening on this website today… https://t.co/vtOy6Zs1WB— Josh Campbell (@joshscampbell) December 3, 2018
I’ve never heard a public official speak this way before Trump. This sounds like something the criminals I used to prosecute would say. https://t.co/WVqoz2taVh— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) December 3, 2018
George is right. This is genuinely looking like witness tampering. DOJ (at least with a nonfake AG) prosecutes cases like these all the time. The fact it's done out in the open is no defense. Trump is genuinely melting down, and no good lawyer can represent him under these circs https://t.co/zqFUoQvWTf— Neal Katyal (@neal_katyal) December 3, 2018
Highest elected official in the country appears to be trying to interfere in the sentencing of former lawyer who has implicated the president in guilty pleas. https://t.co/5RJWg07M1l— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) December 3, 2018
The decision about Cohen's prison term is up to the judge now (though I appreciate why this causes Trump so much worry). It's common for reduced sentences to be given to cooperators. You could call it very legal & very cool. https://t.co/uLqe4MB54w— Neal Katyal (@neal_katyal) December 3, 2018
Mueller already has Trump's written answers related to obstruction of justice.— SUBPOENA POWER🗽 (@Anthony) December 3, 2018
They're on Twitter.
Friends, the news not that @gtconway3d suggests the president is tampering with witnesses; the news is that *the president appears to be tampering with witnesses in plain view* https://t.co/MRCCsZVPI2— Carrie Cordero (@carriecordero) December 3, 2018
Me: Mr. President, who is Scott Free, and why have I not heard his name before today? https://t.co/ZZRZPup3vx— Chris Geidner (@chrisgeidner) December 3, 2018
X has incriminating information about Y. X publicly vows never to testify against X. Y, knowing X has the incriminating information, attempts to corruptly persuade X to “stick to his guns” rather than change his mind and testify. Y has power over the fate of X. 1512(b)?— Bob Brussack (@ambime) December 3, 2018
18 USC §1512(b) makes it a federal crime to try to corruptly persuade someone into refusing to testify in an official proceeding.— A Crime a Day (@CrimeADay) December 3, 2018
10/ Because of the challenges of proving “corrupt” intent, and the legal challenges Trump could bring, I think the best way for a prosecutor to charge today’s tweet would be as part of a larger conspiracy to obstruct justice, instead of as a stand-alone crime.— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) December 3, 2018
"Did Trump break a U.S. law? His fate could turn on whether he knew about a reported plan to give Putin a $50 million penthouse in Trump Tower Moscow," say @NormEisen and Barry Berke. https://t.co/Ct4Ds7LufN— USA TODAY Opinion (@usatodayopinion) December 2, 2018
"What's unusual here is the President's Twitter involvement and the underlying question is whether he can obstruct justice, whether you can intimidate witnesses via Twitter. It looks like he's flirting with that on a daily basis sometimes." @JoyceWhiteVance on Trump. #Hardball pic.twitter.com/7Af6cuuhMP— Hardball (@hardball) December 4, 2018
This doesn’t seem very cool or very legal. https://t.co/VHnQ5CnywE— Jon Favreau (@jonfavs) December 3, 2018
All those retweets came in the same day, and it’s doubly extraordinary that the husband of the White House Communications advisor is retweeting Jon Favreau!
That’s why Eric Trump was so pissed at George Conway yesterday: Because Conway — who last month called the White House a “shitshow in a dumpster fire” — was clearly making the case for witness tampering and obstruction of justice, over and over and over again.
Of all the ugliness in politics, the utter disrespect George Conway shows toward his wife, her career, place of work, and everything she has fought SO hard to achieve, might top them all. @KellyannePolls is great person and frankly his actions are horrible.— Eric Trump (@EricTrump) December 4, 2018
Nothing about Conway’s tweets or retweets in any way illustrated disrespect toward Kellyanne. They were all directed at the President’s actions. In any respect, Eric Trump calling George Conway out for suggesting that Eric’s dad broke the law clearly didn’t bother George Conway, because after that tweet, Conway retweeted the following:
How does noting that your father engaged in witness tampering today disrespect Kellyanne Conway? https://t.co/kvwvVB4hcp— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) December 4, 2018
Wait. Did I miss something? Did George Conway pay money to have sex with a porn star right after his wife gave birth? https://t.co/c8J9CyUZSG— Reza Aslan (@rezaaslan) December 4, 2018
Of all the ugliness in politics, the utter disrespect the Trumps show toward the rule of law, the presidency and its place of work, and everything this nation has fought SO hard to achieve might top them all. Donald Trump is terrible person and frankly his actions are horrible. https://t.co/fEtH3MLcyN— Ian Bassin (@ianbassin) December 4, 2018
Twitter users dunk on Eric Trump's attempted slam of George Conway. https://t.co/nsP9cphWi7— HuffPost (@HuffPost) December 4, 2018
Finally, Mark Sanchez helps the Eagles win a big game | Mike Sielski https://t.co/i2AvWKDXPg— Les Bowen (@LesBowen) December 4, 2018
(That last one was just a great headline. Sorry).
Again: George Conway — who has argued in front of the Supreme Court and won — is suggesting that his wife’s boss should be impeached and imprisoned for witness tampering and obstruction of justice. And George and Kellyanne are fine (they were spotted together taking their son to a school run last Friday).
Meanwhile, Roger Stone is using that tweet to crowdfund his legal defense (he’s received all of $3500 as of this writing).
Mueller will make a court filing against Michael Flynn today, as he draws ever closer to the President. It should be an interesting day.