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A Seriously Random List / Dustin Rowles

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Friends, family, and even strangers often approach me, and they ask, “Dustin. you have such a good head on your shoulders. How do you keep your sanity? You’re so wise! What’s your secret?”

I’ve held out on that secret for years thinking I’d one day encapsulate it into book form and make millions, but I’ve decided, for you — our loyal and gracious readers — that I’d share my secret with you. Essentially, everything you ever needed to know to get through life you can learn from 1980’s comedies. In fact, you don’t even need to watch them all. For you, I’ve condensed my life’s philosophy down into ten statements, words of wisdom that I live every day of my life by. And now you, too, can follow these ten maxims and be a famous internet personality just like me!


10. “Go that way, really fast. If something gets in your way, turn.” — Charles De Mar. Better Off Dead

9. ” Be excellent to each other.” — Abraham Lincoln. Bill & Ted’s Excellent Adventure.

8. “Screws fall out all the time, the world is an imperfect place.” — John Bender. The Breakfast Club

7. “Stop feeling sorry for yourself. It’s bad for your complexion.” Randy. Sixteen Candles

6. “If you were happy every day of your life you wouldn’t be a human being. You’d be a game-show host.” — Veronica Sawyer. Heathers

5. “If you start out depressed everything’s kind of a pleasant surprise.” — Lloyd Dobbler. Say Anything

4. “Nerds, jocks. My side, your side. It’s all bullshit. Its hard enough just trying to be yourself.” — Ronald Miller. Can’t Buy Me Love

3. “People on ‘ludes should not drive!” Jeff Spicolli. Fast Times at Ridgemont High

2. “Everything is not an anecdote. You have to discriminate. You choose things that are funny or mildly amusing or interesting. Have a point. It makes it SO much more interesting for the listener!” — Neal. Planes, Trains, and Automobiles.

1. “Life moves pretty fast. You don’t stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.” — Ferris Bueller. Ferris Bueller’s Day Off


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Comments

This is a fabulous list, I must say.

Posted by: Whorish Mouth at July 8, 2009 3:02 PM

Yeah, this all pretty much works for me. Way more valuable than the kindergarten stuff (to this day, I refuse to share my crayons).

Posted by: myysharona (formerly Sharon_ at July 8, 2009 3:04 PM

Fantastic.

But you forgot the "PARTY ON, DUDES" bit.

Posted by: figgy at July 8, 2009 3:06 PM

Another gem of advice to live by:
"Chicks cannot hold their smoke, dat's what it is." Brian Johnson, The Breakfast Club

Posted by: Rachel at July 8, 2009 3:13 PM

#5 is the way I look at everything. It's the only way I can be so perky all the time.

Posted by: MelBivDevoe at July 8, 2009 3:16 PM

"Every now and then say, "What the fuck." "What the fuck" gives you freedom. Freedom brings opportunity. Opportunity makes your future." Miles. Risky Business

Posted by: ed newman at July 8, 2009 3:19 PM

Rather than combing through the entire comedy oeuvre of the '80's, I cull what little wisdom I have from Chris Knight of "Real Genius" -- although I generally get a blank stare when I tell someone that going to the bathroom isn't going to help their confidence.

Posted by: VampireSlug at July 8, 2009 3:23 PM

You know what I've been doing for, oh, just days and days?

I've been waiting for the Pajiba Most Bangable of 2009 to go up.

Every morning I rush to my computer like an eager dewy-eyed adorable Cindy Lou Who; every hour I hit refresh until I am finally shooed off to bed.

So, Pajiba: what's the fucking holdup?

Posted by: Jerce at July 8, 2009 3:24 PM

"Coughlin's law: never tell tales about a woman. No matter how far away she is, she'll always hear you." - Cocktail

Posted by: branded at July 8, 2009 3:27 PM

My manager just quoted that Better Off Dead line at our meeting yesterday morning. It was just so weird to me, the fact that he had seen the movie, knew the line...it makes me need to reevaluate all my preconceived notions.
Great list, as usual.

Posted by: Cait at July 8, 2009 3:29 PM

“Dustin. you have such a good head on your shoulders. How do you keep your sanity? You’re so wise! What’s your secret?”

The White Boy Boogie (tm). Don't lie, I know your secret.

(Also, that Heathers quote is one of my favorites of all time.)

Posted by: lizzieborden at July 8, 2009 3:38 PM

To this list we could add:

French girls are expert mechanics and have fine pitching arms.

Black and white really does capture the moment so much better.

This is glue. Strong stuff.


Nerds are better lovers because all they think about is sex. All jocks think about is football. (As both a jock and a nerd, I think about sex with footballs.)

Posted by: Tracer Bullet at July 8, 2009 3:40 PM

Goonies never say die!

Posted by: Judith Priest at July 8, 2009 3:43 PM

I *heart* you, Dustin.

Posted by: Anna von Beaverplatz at July 8, 2009 3:43 PM

They think you're moody, make 'em think you're crazy. Make 'em think you might snap. They say you got attitude, you show 'em some real attitude.

--Mark Hunter, Pump up the Volume

(May not be an 80's movie though, I think it came out in 1990)

Posted by: Nicole at July 8, 2009 3:47 PM

P.S. You should commission Genny to embroider these into a pillow. Or a wall hanging.

Posted by: Anna von Beaverplatz at July 8, 2009 3:48 PM

All from REPO MAN:

"The more you drive, the less intelligent you are." - Miller

"No one is innocent." - Agent Rogers

"Managing a pop group is no job for a man." - Lite

"There's fuckin' room to move as a fry cook." - Kevin

"Look at 'em, ordinary fucking people, I hate 'em." - Bud

Posted by: Mohaski at July 8, 2009 3:51 PM

My favorite Cusack-ism ever (not technically "words of wisdom", but it got me through a lot of bad days)...

"I'm floundering in a sea of confusion and total despair but, knock on wood, I've still got my health." -The Sure Thing

Posted by: SugarKane at July 8, 2009 3:51 PM

"No matter where you go, there you are." - Buckaroo Bonzai

Posted by: CptCrckpot at July 8, 2009 3:56 PM

Jesus, Dustin, you sure are intent on bringing down the quality of this site. This is like the "Everything I need to know in life I learned in the 5th grade" calendar my co-worker has, and it makes this site about as cool as they are. Why don't you just start posting pictures of cats on clotheslines with a "Hang In There" caption? Seriously, it's easy and it would generate a shitload more page hits.

I really hope you're making money from the ads, god damn...

Posted by: pissant at July 8, 2009 3:57 PM

Great list. I'd add: "If someone asks you if you're a god, you say YES!"

It's why I have so many worshipers. And by worshipers, I mean my roommate when I buy her Pizza Rolls as a surprise.

Posted by: Julie at July 8, 2009 3:57 PM

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
-Inigo Montoya

With regard to some of my coworkers, truer words were never spoken.

I'm also a fan of the Bill and Ted quote, "Strange things are afoot at the Circle K."

Posted by: Leigh at July 8, 2009 3:58 PM

Yeah, pissant, lets ignore every well written movie review, every guide, and every trade roundup, and focus on a silly list that Dustin posted for fun. How dare he!!!

Posted by: Julie at July 8, 2009 4:00 PM

"Next time someone asks if you're a god, you say 'Yes'!"

Posted by: figgy at July 8, 2009 4:01 PM

"No matter where you go, there you are." - Buckaroo Bonzai
Posted by: CptCrckpot at July 8, 2009 3:56 PM

Ha! Excellent addition. I literally say this *at least* once a week.

Posted by: Anna von Beaverplatz at July 8, 2009 4:01 PM

Figgy-that's why we're meant to be.

Posted by: Julie at July 8, 2009 4:02 PM

Things I learned from Late 80's Gangster Rap: Ice Cube will swarm on any motherfucker in a blue uniform.

Posted by: logar at July 8, 2009 4:03 PM

Love this list - great job!

Posted by: DarthCorleone at July 8, 2009 4:17 PM

It's why I have so many worshipers. And by worshipers, I mean my roommate when I buy her Pizza Rolls as a surprise.

Damn, you buy her Pizza Rolls? I worship at the Altar of Julie, and I get is random late-night gropings and drunk text messages.

I demand Pizza Rolls, woman!

Posted by: lizzieborden at July 8, 2009 4:22 PM

I must not have gone to the movies in the 1980s. I haven't seen a single movie on this list, and I don't recognize any of the quotes.

Posted by: BWeaves at July 8, 2009 4:22 PM

"well written movie review"

Oh, I don't ignore the well written ones.

Julie,
How can I best explain this...I've seen too many good tv shows, bands, etc. descend into banality, and I don't want it to happen to this site. The signal to noise ratio is dropping and the rate of acceleration has been increasing for some time now. If everyone else is cool with mediocrity(and most people are) then my little rants will get buried under a sea of posts that closely resemble an AIM chat as more and more people flock to this site to pass the time. Don't worry, it'll all take care of itself.

I speak because I care.

Posted by: pissant at July 8, 2009 4:26 PM

HA! I just saw yours. We are clearly made for each other.

Posted by: figgy at July 8, 2009 4:26 PM

I was trying to think of what quintessential comedic 80s film wisdom was missing from this list, and it just came to me: Jack Burton!


Take your pick...

"Just remember what old Jack Burton does when the earth quakes, the poison arrows fall from the sky, and the pillars of Heaven shake. Yeah, Jack Burton just looks that big old storm right in the eye and says, 'Give me your best shot. I can take it.'"

"Ol' Jack always says...what the hell."

"Now I'm not saying that I've been everywhere and I've done everything, but I do know it's a pretty amazing planet we live on, and a man would have to be some kind of fool to think we're all alone in this universe."

"Like I told my last wife, I said, 'Honey, I never drive faster than I can see. Besides it's all in the reflexes.'"

"Could you stop rubbing your body up against mine? 'Cause I can't concentrate when you do that."

"When some wild-eyed, eight-foot-tall maniac grabs your neck, taps the back of your favorite head up against the barroom wall, looks you crooked in the eye and asks you if ya paid your dues, you just stare that big sucker right back in the eye, and you remember what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like that: 'Have ya paid your dues, Jack?' 'Yessir, the check is in the mail.'"

"You've got a tongue, Dave. Ask her yourself."

Posted by: DarthCorleone at July 8, 2009 4:31 PM

And when dining out....

(looks at the sign) "No shirt, no shoes, NO DICE!"

-Jeff Spicoli "Fast Times at Ridgemont High"

Posted by: scorzi at July 8, 2009 4:35 PM

WHAT!!! NOTHING FROM BUCKAROO?!

ahem, sorry for the out burst, but c'mon, please. the most sage advice ever:

Hey, hey, hey, hey-now. Don't be mean; we don't have to be mean, cuz, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

and i'm not even ashamed to say that this has been the guiding philosophy of my entire life.

Posted by: causaubon at July 8, 2009 4:44 PM

oops. sorry CptCrckpot, i hadn't noticed that you listed this. although, i was actually aiming my outburst more towards Dustin.

Posted by: causaubon at July 8, 2009 4:48 PM

"It drives just like a truck!"

"Fine-what is truck?"

It's the delivery of that line that kills me.


Posted by: Mrcreosote at July 8, 2009 4:58 PM

Black and white really does capture the moment so much better.


Awwwww.

Posted by: Jay at July 8, 2009 5:01 PM

"I KNEW you were solid!"

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at July 8, 2009 5:20 PM

Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, and sometimes it rains.

Posted by: Yossarian at July 8, 2009 5:24 PM

You people are all old, apparently.

Couple more years and we'll have a 90's list, then it's my time to shine!

Go, Ninja, Go Ninja, GO!

Posted by: annoyingmouse at July 8, 2009 5:31 PM


Lane Myer: Sorry Johnny, I don't have a dime.
Johnny: Didn't ask for a dime. Two dollars.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at July 8, 2009 5:36 PM

Personally I think this might be the best motivational speech from an 80's comedy, and probably all you will need to succeed in life:


I give you the coach's speech from Johnny Be Good:


"Dear lord, we pray that we may win this game today. We ask that you give us the strength and the courage to win our 2nd straight state championship. We ask lord that nobody on our side is seriously injured. We know that we are the best team. We ask that you allow us to win this game. The lord wants you to put your foot on their balls and believe in it, because that's what wins football games. Not jumping offsides like a bunch of wimps and faggots. Alright lift your heads boys, prayers over. I talked to god. I'm thru talking to god, now I'm talking to you. You're gonna be out there in front of your families, the student body, every girl you ever had a hard on for is gonna be out there today but you will not be going to no sock-hop tonight boys, you will not get no honey on your stinger if you don't go out there and bust your ass. Because this is it. This is the big one. I want you to taste it. I want you to smell it son. There's winners and there's nothing else. I don't give a shit what those pinkos over in Russia say. You want to be a loser you go live in Russia. I'm not a loser. I'm a winner. I'm an American. Who wants to be John Wayne? Who wants to grab a root and hang on? Who wants to get a mean on? Get a mean on son. Let me see you get a mean on son. Now who wants it? I want to know, who wants this? Who wants to get a mean on? Who wants it? Let's go! "

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at July 8, 2009 5:42 PM

"YOU'RE STEWED, BUTTWAD!"

--Weird Science, an oft-overlooked gem

Posted by: Snuggiepants the Deathbringer at July 8, 2009 6:43 PM

"Anything more than a handful is a waste."
Weird Science.

"Not all of us who drink are poets. Some of us drink because we're not poets. "
Arthur

Elwood: It's 106 miles to Chicago, we got a full tanks of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses.
Jake: Hit it.
Blues Brothers

"The world needs ditch diggers too."
Caddyshack

"We must all do what we must do, for if we do not, then what we must do does not get done."
Volunteers

"Two weeks."
The Money Pit

Posted by: John W at July 8, 2009 7:16 PM

Never forget the wisdom of Mrs. White:

Men should be like Kleenex. Soft, strong and disposable.

AND

Flies are where men are most vulnerable.

Posted by: Elfrieda at July 8, 2009 7:17 PM

The signal to noise ratio is dropping and the rate of acceleration has been increasing for some time now. If everyone else is cool with mediocrity(and most people are) then my little rants will get buried under a sea of posts that closely resemble an AIM chat as more and more people flock to this site to pass the time.

Wow. Even for this site, that is a particularly astounding amount of hipster in there.

Posted by: Vermillion at July 8, 2009 7:42 PM

Fight! Fight! Fight for Washington State!

Posted by: Tracer Bullet at July 8, 2009 7:56 PM

"But first, I'd like to butter your muffin..." Chett, to Lisa, Weird Science.

Posted by: Janey at July 8, 2009 8:23 PM

Vermillion,
I'm not sure how decrying the downfall of a good website on that website is hipster. Shit, I didn't mention TV On The Radio even once.

Posted by: pissant at July 8, 2009 8:31 PM

The sky is FALLING, BARBARIANS ARE AT THE GATE!! Pajiba's downfall OH MY GOD!

Listen, I declared this little known web shithole over YEARS AGO.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at July 8, 2009 8:47 PM

And yet he is still here. Then again, he has always been full of it and needed a place to dump it, so there you go.

I'm not sure how decrying the downfall of a good website on that website is hipster.

For one, you are one good "you guys totally sold out" from turning into a hipster cliche. Especially the little hint of condescension.

Plus, you are complaining that a WEBSITE is a source of time-wasting for some folks. That is pretty much what the Web is for. Forget work or research or anything useful; that is only about .05% of the Internet anyway. The rest is a conglomeration of random junk that people glob onto to tickle their various bones, funny or otherwise. If you really think that it is anything but that, no wonder you are so disappointed.

People change, stuff happens, whatever trite saying you need really. You have made it clear that you only want movie reviews, but you refuse to just read the movie reviews. It isn't like nearly every possible accommodation has been attempted. Apparently you like to torture yourself needlessly.

Posted by: Vermillion at July 8, 2009 11:09 PM

Anything from Bull Durham. Ya gotta work on your clichés.

Posted by: Odnon at July 8, 2009 11:49 PM

Damn right, odnon:

Your shower shoes have fungus on them. If you win 20 in The Show, you can have fungus on your shower shoes and the press will think you're colorful. Until then, though, it means you're a slob.

Posted by: , (the commenter formerly known as bucdaddy) at July 9, 2009 1:59 AM

Bouncer at CATS: Love's a bitch, Duck. Love's a bitch.

Iona: Andie, hon. Listen, it's after 7:00. Don't waste good lip gloss.

Andie: If somebody doesn't believe in me, I can't believe in them. Pretty in Pink

Amanda Jones: I'd rather be with someone for the wrong reasons then alone for the right.

Watts: It's better to swallow pride than blood.

Duncan: We're gonna bring this party up to a nice respectable level. Don't worry, we're not gonna hurt anyone. We're not even gonna touch 'em. We're just gonna make 'em cry a little, just by lookin' at 'em. Some Kind of Wonderful

Lana: Go to school, Joel. Learn something.

Joel Goodson: It seems to me that if there were any logic to our language, trust would be a four letter word.

Miles: Joel, you wanna know something? Every now and then say, "What the fuck." "What the fuck" gives you freedom. Freedom brings opportunity. Opportunity makes your future. Say "what the fuck."... If you can't say it, you can't do it.
BEST ADVICE EVER!

Risky Business

Posted by: dammitjanet at July 9, 2009 8:52 AM

Sorry, this is a pet peeve of mine since it's one of my favorite movies...

It's BANZAI! B-A-N-Z-A-I!! Buckaroo BANZAI!!!

Now then, a few favorites...

"No, no...don't tug on that, you never know what it might be attached to."

"If it were a snake it'd have bitten me!"

"Step away from that car or I'll drink yo' blood!"

Reno: This guy was a top scientist, dumkoff!

Perfect Tommy: So was Mr. Wizard!

Posted by: Green Lantern at July 9, 2009 9:59 AM

Vermillion,
Gotta say, I still don't get the hipster tag. And I don't think I said "sell out", but that is hardly hipster. But whatever, to each his own when it comes to hipster defining.

There is a difference between changing and losing your way*, and I don't wanna see this site turn into TMZ. If this devolves into a state where it can be summarized by "Oh noes, Rainbow Killer is gonna adopt an African baby! Let's fire up the murder tank, y'all!" I feel that the internet will have lost something special.

"You have made it clear that you only want movie reviews"

"Scathing Reviews, Bitchy People" - I like the book reviews, and I got nothin' against the music and TV.

* - obviously, debatable, but I think you know where I stand on that issue

Posted by: pissant at July 9, 2009 10:39 AM

Gotta say, I still don't get the hipster tag. And I don't think I said "sell out", but that is hardly hipster. But whatever, to each his own when it comes to hipster defining.

The defining traits of a hipster is the desire to counter the popular choice and the belief their opinion is superior, if not out and out fact. They feel as though anything deviating from their standard is a slippery slope towards banality.

How is that different from what you have been espousing?

And I didn't say you said "sell out", I said all you needed was to say it and you would be a total cliche.

"Scathing Reviews, Bitchy People"

And? Did they somehow stop doing the scathing reviews? Did they stop being bitchy people? If it said "Scathing MOVIE Reviews, Bitchy ONLY ABOUT FILM People", then I could see your issue. But from what I see, they simply expanded that tagline to things beyond movies. If anything, stuff like the Comment Diversions try to serve as places where people can do their goofiness and not detract from the reviews. They are still entirely optional.

By your own statements, your complaints aren't even that valid. It sounds more like laziness than a concern for quality.

I guess what I am trying to say is: what is your point? What exactly are you trying to accomplish with this? Do you actually seek to change the site for your own edification, or do you simply wish to complain about something?

Posted by: Vermillion at July 9, 2009 12:02 PM

OK, I'm done with the hipster stuff. I don't really care. Though, I'd say "anything deviating from their standard is a slippery slope towards banality" is more idealistic, which I'd be fine with.

Christ, I never said ONLY movie reviews. In fact, I stated that I like the book reviews a few comments up. Those and the TV and music ones fit under "reviews". This post, however, does not. And "Scathing, uh, stuff, Bitchy People" just doesn't have the same ring to it.

My point? I don't know. There's a comment box here, I'm using it. If you'd like an answer to your question, perhaps you should figure out what you are trying to accomplish by arguing with me. The answers would be quite similar, I suspect.

Posted by: pissant at July 9, 2009 12:25 PM

Jeebus, Godtopus and Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio...

TAKE A CHILL PILL fuckers!!! So, it's not a review....so it's just a fun way to waste some time. GREAT!!! That's one of the reasons I am (and I'll be a lot of other people are) here! I was never one of the cool kids, but I come to Pajiba and I CAN BE!!! I can talk with Vermillion, Skitz, figgy, Julie, AvP, whoever I want and WE HAVE FUN!!

Show of hands....how many of us spend our days in cubicle hell? (1,2,7, 43....) EXACTLY! Now, how many of us come to Pajiba to read something funny, WHATEVER the shits it may be about to escape the "Office Space" daily existence we lead? PRECISELY!

So, if you don't like reading the comment diversions, DON'T READ THEM! If you only want reviews, JUST READ THE FREAKIN' REVIEWS! Its like those asswads who bitch about "dirty" shows on TV and such...if you don't like 'em, don't wanna watch 'em, TURN IT OFF!

In conclusion, I will read whatever the Pajiba overlords choose to run, because I enjoy this site. It's fun.....it's a great diversion....it's a way to talk with people from all over the world without getting into one of those chatrooms with creepy 50 year old men pretending to be a 14 year old girl who wants to sleep with me.

At least (they are) not a book burner(s), you Nazi cow.

All right, Beulah, do you want to step outside?

Posted by: dammitjanet at July 9, 2009 2:40 PM

My point? I don't know. There's a comment box here, I'm using it. If you'd like an answer to your question, perhaps you should figure out what you are trying to accomplish by arguing with me. The answers would be quite similar, I suspect.

And that right there is my reason for arguing. If you were simply trying to rant and rave that is fine, but you write like you were actually trying to change things. So I question your reasons for doing so. I honestly wonder why anybody would continue to suffer through something they don't enjoy when they have the option of bypassing it.

But you can't complain about people blowing off steam and doing non-substantive stuff on a site, only to admit you were pretty much doing the same.

Posted by: Vermillion at July 9, 2009 3:41 PM

One I haven't seen in the comments, but seems apt in today's economic climate:

In times of economic uncertainty, never ever fuck with another man's livelihood.

-- Guido the Killer Pimp, Risky Business

Posted by: morganew at July 9, 2009 5:52 PM

Vermillion,
Well, I have addressed Dustin directly several times. I would actually hope that this stuff is no longer posted, though I don't suspect that will happen.

And I suffer through it because I want to make sure that I feel my rants are valid. And I rant because I want to attempt to maintain that quality that is here. Once again, I don't think it will actually happen, because everyone seems to enjoy them.

dammitjanet,
"So, if you don't like reading the comment diversions, DON'T READ THEM!" If you don't like reading my comments, DON'T READ THEM! See what I did there? I mean, seriously, you think I haven't heard that "argument" already?

Posted by: pissant at July 9, 2009 6:27 PM

Where's the Dead Poet love?

"Carpe diem!"

Posted by: aud at July 9, 2009 8:11 PM

Well, I have addressed Dustin directly several times. I would actually hope that this stuff is no longer posted, though I don't suspect that will happen.

Either you want something to change or you don't. You say you addressed these things with Dustin, which belies a real intent on changing the site. But when pressed before, you say that you just want to vent, as expressed here:

My point? I don't know. There's a comment box here, I'm using it.

So do you have a point or don't you? Or do you simply like pestering people about stuff you don't like, with no real intention of changing a thing?

It is like that old saying: insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, expecting a different result. It is clear that you are aware that your opinion is a minority one at this point. And despite your personal feeligs, you aren't responsible for the site. You don't pay the bills, and you don't really offer any alternative besides the vague call for "more reviews" (which has been done, by the way, just not to your liking).

So why labor under the delusion that you have to do anything to "save" the site? They are apparently careening along the way they wish. If you like it fine, if you don't, whatever. This isn't a monopoly or a dictatorship; if something displeases you, you are more than free to explore other options. Don't let some phantom sense of loyalty hold you to something you don't enjoy.

If you don't like reading my comments, DON'T READ THEM! See what I did there? I mean, seriously, you think I haven't heard that "argument" already?

It is a valid argument, no quotation marks, and restatement isn't a counter.

Posted by: Vermillion at July 9, 2009 8:18 PM

We're just going in circles now. My intent behind being vague was for you to come to the realization that your criticizing my comments is not too far removed from me criticizing this site's decisions. Do you expect to convince me otherwise? Do you think you could possibly do that? You're one step removed from me. But, ya know, I'm cool with that. But, we really shouldn't continue on this path, because it will get us nowhere.

However...

I believe using someone's own logic to invalidate their statement thus proving their statement to not make sense would be a counter. And I use the quotations because they didn't attack my argument. There statement was no counter to what I said.

Posted by: pissant at July 10, 2009 12:11 AM

Oh, pissy....I'm already IN the diversion, READING the comments....therefore, I am going to see yours. Your complaint seems to be about the DIVERSION post itself. So, you left a word out of my sentence....I said comment DIVERSION, not just comments. My point was that if you are unhappy with this sort of post, DON'T READ THE ENTIRE POST, not just the comments.

Oh, can't we all just get along?

Posted by: dammitjanet at July 10, 2009 8:24 AM

My intent behind being vague was for you to come to the realization that your criticizing my comments is not too far removed from me criticizing this site's decisions.

I still don't see why that is a problem for you. If you feel in the right for continually posting and emailing about how you don't like this or that on the site, then why can't I feel in the right for doing the same with your comments? That si kind athe point of posting anything here; if you didn't want comments and questions, why bother?

Besides, as I said before, I honestly want to understand your reasons. All I am getting is that you just think it would be better. It just seems selfish to me.

But, we really shouldn't continue on this path, because it will get us nowhere.

Why not? Obviously you were going to do this anyway, since it was very unlikely that the site is going to change.

Maybe the problem isn't that I don't get the similarities between this and your complaints; maybe it is you. Really; what is the difference? You are intent to do things your way, regardless of what I say, right? Then why can't Pajiba? Why does your opinion matter that much?

I believe using someone's own logic to invalidate their statement thus proving their statement to not make sense would be a counter.

But that isn't what you did; you just restated it. You say you hate the non-reviews, okay. You want them removed. She asks why you just don't skip them (a valid option). Instead of giving a compelling reason for not doing so (a real counter), you simply flip around the argument (still not answering the question). That doesn't make the question invalid.

Posted by: Vermillion at July 10, 2009 8:36 AM

Vermillion,
I'm not saying that your statements are invalid or that you shouldn't be commenting or anything. You asked what my intent was and I thought it was pretty obvious that my intent was your intent. We're both just trying to convince someone else of something via comments on a website. I enjoy the discourse.

I agree, it is selfish. I think the site would be better if the quality of the posts was better. Of course, "better" is subjective. Some people think the more people that visit and participate the better the site is. I disagree. But it all hinges on your definition of better.

Pajiba can do whatever they(it?) wants. I'm fully aware of this. I would imagine that they operate in a mix between doing what they want to do and giving the visitors what they want. Well, I'm using these comment boxes to voice my opinion. And I never said that my opinion matters more than yours or Pajiba's.

I restated it to show how ridiculous it was. A restatement was all that was required for that. I said, "This is bad because of X." Had they said, "No, it is not because of Y" that would have been a valid argument. But, they just said, "Don't read it." They didn't respond to my argument. If their response had been, "Well, you're an asshole", I wouldn't feel the need to respond to that. It's analogous to an ad hominem argument.

Posted by: pissant at July 10, 2009 10:10 AM

good googly-moo!

Posted by: dammitjanet at July 10, 2009 10:31 AM

Ah, dammitjanet, the oft feared but rarely seen adam sandler hominem argument. I shall not spar with such a master.

Posted by: pissant at July 10, 2009 11:08 AM

No, just....geez....really, we're all here to have some fun and read some snark and silly shit. I mean, EVERYONE is not gonna be happy with EVERY post! So, lets just move on!

Posted by: dammitjanet at July 10, 2009 11:20 AM

"I want my 2 dollars!"
- Paper boy, Better Off Dead

Posted by: RichC123 at July 10, 2009 4:24 PM

"Isms, in my opinion, are not good. A person should not believe in an -ism, he should believe in himself. I quote John Lennon, 'I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me.' Good point there. After all, he was the walrus." -Ferris Beuller

And high fives to Odnon and bucdaddy. Annie Savoy and Crash Davis are definitely the folks I quote most.
'Strikeouts are boring. Besides that, they're facist.'
God, that entire script is quotable.

Posted by: K at July 14, 2009 6:45 AM

pissant - just shut the fuck up, you're being a douche nozzle.

Posted by: sosumi at July 14, 2009 2:31 PM