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A Seriously Random List / Dustin Rowles

Seriously Random Lists | May 18, 2009 | Comments (111)


Spiritual whiteness has very little to do with skin color. It’s difficult to define “Whiteness.” It’s like the Supreme Court’s definition of obscenity: You know it when you see it. It’s not restricted to political affiliation, religious preference, or even socioeconomic status. Conservative Mormons in Utah are just as white as the NPR-obsessed crowd in parts of affluent Connecticut. There are people, places, and even things that are just white — hell, there’s an entire site devoted to stuff white people like. White is a state of being. Staplers are white. Lined paper is white. St. Paul, Minnesota: White. Disney World is white. Butterfly tattoos: Very white. Elisabeth Hasselback: White. “Lost” is white. Moleskin journals: So white. Chin dimples: White. Robert Redford: White. Crepes: White. Fondue: White. The Boston Red Sox: White. Alex Rodriguez: Really White.

I think you get the picture. And without further ado (and based, in part, on reader suggestions), here are the five whitest movies of all time.


5. Crash: Boom. An easy one. A race-politics movie written and directed by a Canadian scientologist, Paul Haggis, a guy who cut his teeth on two of the whitest television shows of all time: “The Facts of Life” and “thirtysomething.” It also stars the uber white Brendan Fraser, Matt Dillon, Sandra Bullock, Ryan Phillipe, and the sometimes white, Don Cheadle. Even the menacing black guy, Ludacris, was billed in the movie as Chris Bridges, a name almost as white as Don Johnson. Plus: Interweaving storylines: A narrative device created for white people to make them feel smart. Plus, Crash is basically a movie created to make white people feel less awful about the fact that they’re latent racists. Sure, the big message in Crash was that racism is bad, but the real message is that: “Look! Sandra Bullock is racist, so we don’t have to feel so bad about the fact that so are we!”


4. The Da Vinci Code/Angels & Demons: Are you kidding me? The Illuminati? That’s Latin for “White.” It’s a Bavarian secret society that is the clear forerunner for today’s whitest secret society, Skull and Bones. These movies couldn’t have had more whiteness working for it: Catholics. The Mona Lisa. Tom Hanks. Mullets. Plus: They are based on one of the all-time whitest novelist, Dan Brown, and helmed by, Ron Howard, who is the whitest director in Hollywood (notwithstanding his appearance in a Jamie Foxx video). People that watched these movies in the theater actually lost their tans during the course of it.



3. Juno: Obvious. Only a white person would think to give away a baby in The Pennysaver. Only a white movie would glorify teenage pregnancy. And only in a white movie would Jason Bateman ditch his wife for a Nirvana T-shirt? Homey, please. Did you know that Quirk and Whimsy are signature white person characteristics? Totally true. Find me a whimsical black movie. Diablo Cody was clearly attempting to create a white person’s version of ebonics — “Yo Yo Yiggady Yo”; “That ain’t no etch-a-sketch. This is one doodle that can’t be un-did, homeskillet” or even “Paulie Bleeker is totally boss. He is the cheese to my macaroni.” Come on. How white can you get? Plus, Juno features a cast of the whitest of whites: Ellen Page, Michael Cera, Jennifer Garner, J.K. Simmons, and Alison Janney. There’s enough pastiness in Juno to put glue factories out of business. But here’s the kicker: Juno inspired 17 white girls in the white town of Gloucester, Massachusetts to voluntarily get themselves pregnant. Only a bunch of white girls would emulate a movie by sleeping with a homeless guy. I think Tracer Bullet summed it up nicely: “A bullshit cracker fairy tale where everybody looks like an expensively-dressed hobo and talks like an English Lit grad student.”


2. Pretty Woman: Tracer nailed this one, too: “Earnest, hokey nonsense that only honkies would swallow.” Pull a prostitute off the street and turn her into a responsible, upstanding woman? That’s white-male fantasy bullshit propagated, in part, by a lily-white Buddhist whose visage wouldn’t look out of place on an NPR tote bag. The hooker with a heart of gold? White concept. Hell, Gere’s corporate raider met Julia Robert’s when he has trouble driving his Lotus Esprit, which is Italian for rich-white man’s car. And only in a white person’s movie would the real emotional bonding moment come when the woman introduces the man to the customs of “lower class” people, i.e. vegging out in front of the TV with pizza, while he introduces her to the freakin’ opera. Hell, the whole movie revolves around the prince on the white horse myth, and what’s whiter than a white horse? Only Julia Roberts.


1. The Pursuit of Happyness: BarbadoSlim appropriately noted that any movie starring Will Smith is the whitest movie ever, a notion that I agree with (but for Bad Boys). Ask any white person who their favorite black celebrity is and they’ll all Mos Def. Ask them their second favorite black celebrity, and they’ll usually say Will Smith. Call a white person racist, and he’ll retort, “Nu uh, I like Will Smith,” which is like defending your love of hip-hop by citing New Kids on the Block. Will Smith’s whitest movie is, undoubtedly, The Pursuit of Happyness, a movie about a black medical supply salesman trying to fit into a white world as a Wall Street advisor in what was once the whitest financial advising firm in the world until it was bought out by an even whiter firm, Morgan Stanley. It’s one of those feel-good Republican, pull-yourself-up-by-your-bootstraps flicks that depicts a Disneyfied brand of racism and warms the heart of white people whose fondest hope is that all races will one day assimilate into a white culture, regardless of the color of their skin.



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Comments

"Only a bunch of white girls would emulate a
movie by sleeping with a homeless guy."

A: They were perfectly rational in their decision.
B: I wasn't homeless at the time. I was merely between residences.

Posted by: Skitz at May 18, 2009 4:22 PM

warms the heart of white people whose fondest hope is that all races will one day assimilate into a white culture, regardless of the color of their skin

Ha ha! So true. A recent example:

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/6365320.html

Posted by: katy at May 18, 2009 4:23 PM

Titanic

Posted by: Brian at May 18, 2009 4:25 PM

Posted by: Brian at May 18, 2009 4:25 PM

I concur. Even the iceberg was white!

Posted by: branded at May 18, 2009 4:26 PM

Chariots of Fire, they run so slow..... only slow motion makes them look athletic.

Posted by: Ted Evans at May 18, 2009 4:29 PM

Hmm, it appears I'm becoming Pajiba's resident Angry Black Man. I have mixed feelings about that, but if any of you nubile young women attending PajiBacon happen to be angry with your fathers, I'm happy to oblige whatever Mandingo fantasies you might have.

Posted by: Tracer Bullet at May 18, 2009 4:32 PM

Tin Cup
Bagger Vance

Other golf movies. Still don't match my 1st vote

Posted by: Brian at May 18, 2009 4:34 PM

Lovely alabaster list. May I also submit for your consideration: The Legend of Bagger Vance. Not only does it star Will Smith as a magical Negro, but 1) it takes place in the olden days when everyone was even whiter and other races knew their place 2) it is about some pretty white boy searching for his identity on 3)a golf course, the whitest place on earth.

Posted by: ed newman at May 18, 2009 4:34 PM

Beat you to it Ed

Posted by: Brian at May 18, 2009 4:35 PM

I dunno, I think you're giving white people way too much credit on knowing who Mos Def is.

Posted by: Alex at May 18, 2009 4:35 PM

He's the guy with the towel Alex

Posted by: Brian at May 18, 2009 4:36 PM

Good list. I submit The Family Stone & The Upside of Anger.

White dysfunction at its best.

Posted by: Brie at May 18, 2009 4:43 PM

Those Ads: Still Annoying.

VERY much so.

Posted by: Withnail at May 18, 2009 4:45 PM

Anything by Woody Allen.

Posted by: I Love Beets at May 18, 2009 4:46 PM

'The Upside of Anger' was too dysfunctional to be 'white'.

It's no 'Juno'.

Posted by: twig at May 18, 2009 4:46 PM

Seriously . . . this post MADE MY LIFE!!! You have no idea how long I have been saying all of what you just said about the state of whiteness. Oddly enough though, it is in fact usually the white people who agree that some white people are just too damn white.

Posted by: sparkle576 at May 18, 2009 4:48 PM

So much whiteness, so little time.

Dances with Wolves--or any Kevin Costner flick, really. I heard they were thinking of making a sequel to DWW with Viggo Mortensen, the other white meat.

What's the one where His Whiteness Tom Cruise goes native, Nihon-style? The Last Samurai.

Posted by: Rosa at May 18, 2009 4:49 PM

Titanic

God, yes. A ship full of snooty Brits and poor Irish people? How much whiter can you get?!

The only black thing in that movie was the paint job on the ship.

Posted by: figgy at May 18, 2009 4:53 PM

The Ice Storm
Connecticut + 70's + swigers + snow related death + comic references = white people

Posted by: Brian at May 18, 2009 4:53 PM

I'm happy to oblige whatever Mandingo fantasies you might have.

sigh

Posted by: krix at May 18, 2009 4:53 PM

Damn you Dustin! Now I'm craving crepes and fondue.

Posted by: tamatha at May 18, 2009 4:54 PM

Rare to meet a black person less racist than a white person.

I think Chris Rock had a nice little rant about this.

Posted by: Fuel at May 18, 2009 4:56 PM

"St. Paul, Minnesota: White."

Ouch. That one hurt.

Also I would say that Eddie Murphy would be the 3rd black actor white people would mention, and that's because they loved the Klumps.

Posted by: annoyingmouse at May 18, 2009 4:56 PM

'The Upside of Anger' was too dysfunctional to be 'white'.

Nope, repressed emotions, too much money, undercurrents of homosexuality...sounded pretty white to me. Kevin Costner utters a line in that movie that made his white-ness truly stand out; he calls himself a "patient motherfucker." When he said that, I literally burst out laughing. You could tell he was trying so hard to be cool (or young) and yet he failed miserably.

Posted by: Brie at May 18, 2009 4:59 PM

Most John Hughes movies, but particularly Ferris Bueller's Day Off. Love the Thriller dance during the parade. I was a suburban white kid, and Cameron and Ferris made me look like Suge Knight.

Posted by: logar at May 18, 2009 5:10 PM

Lots and lots of non-white Catholics in the world, Rowles. Those obsessed with conspiracy theories involving the church do, however, happen to be white pretty often.

Posted by: samantha t at May 18, 2009 5:14 PM

"St. Paul, Minnesota: White."

Oh, come on. I was just spent the weekend there and there were... there was a... I mean, yeah there's a LOT of caucasians and... But I could have swore there was at least a couple of... Look, I counted at least twelve Obama bumper stickers and...

The Mall Of America! Huh? It's America's Mall! America! The melting pot...

Uh...

PRINCE! HAH! That guy's colo... African American! And those producer guys! And... the uh...

PRINCE!


Posted by: Skitz at May 18, 2009 5:16 PM

Pretty Woman isn't totally white.

Wasn't 'Skinny Marie' black? I think Pretty Woman had one black person or mention thereof.

And it had some more color with the whitish/latino Hector Elizondo. But I guess he's just taking the acting jobs nobody else wants.

Posted by: wsapnin at May 18, 2009 5:17 PM

Fuck this. Racism will never die until we stop labelling things by race. It's acceptable to disparage a whole race of people as long as you are a member of that race? Whiteness isn't a fucking state of being, it doesn't mean anything. I'm sick of stuffwhitepeoplelike and all the other bullshit (including this) because if you are appropriating things to white people you most certainly do it for every other race of people as well. By pointing out things that only white people should like (or any race for that matter) all you are doing is creating further divisions between different races and continuing the societal racism that has been deeply entrenched in our culture. It's fun and acceptable for white people to rip on how white they are, but try to do a list of the blackest movies of all time and tell me how it's any less racist.

Posted by: Pilot at May 18, 2009 5:22 PM

As a certified coconut, I don't think I'm qualified to comment on this topic.

Posted by: Joker at May 18, 2009 5:22 PM

"...but try to do a list of the blackest movies of all time..."

See? DO YOU SEE?! Now you have to do this. But that's not where it's gonna stop. Oh no. No no no no no. Because then, you've gotta do a Latino one. Then an Asian one. Then you've gotta do one for armless people. Then the bald folk. Do you see what you've done, Rowles? DO YOU SEE WHAT YOU'VE BEGUN?!

Gimme a "R"!

Gimme an "A"!

Gimme a "C"!

Gimme an "E"!

Gimme a "W"

...

Well, you get where this is headed... not gonna spell the whole fucking thing out..

Posted by: Skitz at May 18, 2009 5:32 PM

Although if you jump the shark (can we put a bullet in the skull of that particular phrase?), and do an Albino list, I'm fucking outta here...

Posted by: Skitz at May 18, 2009 5:34 PM

I have to agree with samantha t about Catholicism. Almost any form of Protestantism is way whiter than Catholicism.

Conspiracy theories and secret societies however, are super white.

Posted by: merrissa at May 18, 2009 5:35 PM

It's fun and acceptable for white people to rip on how white they are, but try to do a list of the blackest movies of all time and tell me how it's any less racist.

I think we should do this.

I don't accept the idea that we can never talk or joke about how certain concepts are closely identified by race. That's no more valid than insisting that we can't talk about cultural identification of certain traits by gender. There are differences between people that correspond to racial and gender identification. I'm not going to pretend they don't exist, and I don't think they would ever go away if I did.

An open, inclusive, humorous dialogue about these differences de-fangs racism and sexism, as opposed to perpetuating them. Off the top of my head, why don't more black people surf in the U.S. (I don't know what Australia is like)? I have no idea, but I think I've seen one black surfer in my life. Well-off white people may control most of the beach access, but there's something that's causing the number to hover near zero. I'm not especially concerned about it either way, and more power to black people if they want to go surfing, I just fine the situation curious and amusing.

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at May 18, 2009 5:36 PM

I will date myself with this,
Ordinary people.

Pardon me for a moment, but this weekend I saw three movies that think we all should see. It has nothing to to with white people. But the missus doesn't talk movies as much as i do, so I have you people to talk to.

1) The Street Fighter
2) Return of The Street Fighter
3) The Street Fighter's Last Revenge

They were mentioned in certian movie that came out in 1993, and I have no idea why it has taken me so long to see these films.

Thanks

Posted by: badalamenti at May 18, 2009 5:36 PM

Let's remember the Pajiba Commandment People:

Thou Shalt Chill The Fuck Out

and the addendum:

Thou Shalt Not Take Shit So Seriously.

I think Richard Gere is the whitest person alive.

Posted by: figgy at May 18, 2009 5:38 PM

This em be raciss.

Posted by: Fred Berry at May 18, 2009 5:43 PM

Okay, these are good, but there should be at least an honorable mention to The Birth of a Nation. For fucks sake, the KKK are the heroes in Birth of A Nation.

Let me make that clear to you:

The KKK are the heroes in Birth of a Nation

Posted by: George at May 18, 2009 5:45 PM

Thank you, socalled. As usual, you said exactly what I was thinking in the most eloquent and awesome way imaginable.

Really, if we can't find humor in this type of stuff it's just going to be miserable all around. I'd rather laugh and not take shit so seriously. Obviously some people just want to live in Miserable Offended World.

Posted by: figgy at May 18, 2009 5:45 PM

I think Fargo is pretty darn white. Because if you use liking movies on that list up there as a blind test for race? I stopped being white. And I already admitted to being the NPR-listening Trader-Joe shopping target market.

Posted by: Wednesday at May 18, 2009 5:47 PM

I'm not fond of racial divides in blog form. I was ready to laugh at this (oh yeah! white people are TOTALLY like that!) But this is basically "White people suck. Here are some things that suck because they remind me of white people. White people suck." Whether that was your intent or not, that's what you accomplished. So glad to see that race still affects us on our little entertainment site.

Posted by: ChristianH at May 18, 2009 5:48 PM

Yeah, but wouldn't the "blackest" movie list would be fairly easy:

1.) Media goes to ____________
2.) Media goes to ____________
3.) Media goes to ____________
4.) Media goes to ____________
5.) Media goes to ____________

Posted by: Heathen at May 18, 2009 5:50 PM

I'm with socalled... Why don't you see black people surfing? Honestly...

And it seems I've only seen white people looking absolutely dipshitty during sporting events (i.e. painting their faces/chests/etc., wearing dumb-ass costumes).

And why haven't Tyra Banks and Anne Coulter been chained together and set out to sea on a garbage barge?

Posted by: Skitz at May 18, 2009 5:53 PM

But this is basically "White people suck. Here are some things that suck because they remind me of white people. White people suck."

Not following. Robert Redford? Crepes? What could be better than fondue? Hell, even St. Paul is pretty okay if you like St. Croix and brats. (And I do.)

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at May 18, 2009 5:57 PM

Whitest Television shows:

Gilmore Girls - The big dilemma is how can woman ask her rich parents to pay for daughter's tuition while still be independent, the running joke is Emily fires her maid every episode.

Happy Days - the world according to the GOP

West Wing - A President with principals, nuff said

White Shadow - A white guys goes into a black neighborhood and teaches black people how to succeed through basketball

Beverly Hills 90210/The OC/Dawson's Creek/One Tree Hill/ - Do I even have to explain?

Posted by: John W at May 18, 2009 6:01 PM

And it seems I've only seen white people looking absolutely dipshitty during sporting events (i.e. painting their faces/chests/etc., wearing dumb-ass costumes).

Overall that has been my observation as well, though the New Orleans Saints crowd has lots of black people and white people in all manner of head-scratching get-ups. But that's more like a party or festival than a sporting event, I guess.

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at May 18, 2009 6:01 PM

Pump your brakes, you bitch-ass pilgrim. You can have your butterfly tats and your Hasselbacks, but Lost is for everyone.

Posted by: jM at May 18, 2009 6:03 PM

"Gimme a "R"!

Gimme an "A"!

Gimme a "C"!

Gimme an "E"!

Gimme a "W""

I know!..... Racewn? Like the white trash spelling of the name of the small, cute, furry mammal that gets into my garbage? :)

Speaking of wars, how about the original Star Wars tril? Oops, nope... Anything Billy Dee is in provides all the flava you need.

Posted by: logar at May 18, 2009 6:04 PM

not that I didn't love it but Little Miss Sunshine was pretty fuckin' white.
You've got the Nietcshe reading emo teen(it's not that black kids dont read Nietcshe[no idea if I'm spelling that correctly] It's just that they dont do it on screen unless they're like, Carlton from Fresh Prince type BlackDorks, or Will Smith conning a bunch of people that he's Poitier's heir), suicidal, gay Proust professor(it's not that black dudes cant teach Proust...see above), chubby, big spectacled PAGEANT kid,out of his damn mind grandad (black grandparents aren't nutty junkies, they're wise and sassy)and Mr and Mrs dysfunctional mom and dad USA.

If they where a black family, Dad would be a criminal trying to go straight, Mum'd be a recovering junkie, grandpa would be a proud and maybe slightly scared of the crime around him but ultimately wise head of the family, EmoTeen would be the borderline gangsta coming dangerously close to following in his dads footsteps,Gay Proust Uncle would be the wifes brother who went straight after a childhood of crime, only to be fired when his bank went under, meaning he has to move back in with his sister and her family, and they'd live in some nightmarish ghetto. There would be no road trip.
Abigail Breslin's African American counterpart would still be a pagaent kid, the family would still be wildly out of place, but rather than take a bonding, life changing road trip, over the course of the week leading up to the pagaent, paying for which will have taken up their savings, Dad would be encouraged to go on one last score, that happens to be the night of the pagaent, but which would leave him time to see his kid sing or dance or what ever, something she'd do better than all the kids there. He'd get fatally shot, out in the snow, because this is hollywood, at the exact same time as she went on stage, unaware he was absent.
Her mum would Just Know her husband was dead, as nothing else could have kept him away, so would be cheering her daughter on even as tears flowed from her eyes. Grandad wouldn't die, teen son would be inspired to follow his dream and join the airforce, Uncle would stay living with his sister to support her in the wake of her husbands death and little girl would grow up to be famous. It would be played as the true life story of a famous singer but would give no clue as to who, while being a total work of fiction.

Posted by: Nadine at May 18, 2009 6:07 PM

Pump your brakes, you bitch-ass pilgrim. You can have your butterfly tats and your Hasselbacks, but Lost is for everyone.

Wow. I missed when he said Lost.

SCREW YOU MAN LOST AIN'T WHITE.

Posted by: figgy at May 18, 2009 6:12 PM

For a moment there, I thought I had accidentally gone to stuffwhitepeoplelike.com

Posted by: VeinsRHiways at May 18, 2009 6:14 PM

I'm going to go with the English Patient, Dangerous Liasions and When Harry Met Sally. Those are whiter than Rush Limbaugh drinking a vanilla marshmallow milkshake on a cloud above the North Pole in his KKK sheet and hood.

Posted by: Rubble44 at May 18, 2009 6:18 PM

Blackest movies of all time . . . anything starring Bill Bellamy or Larenz Tate. End of list.

Posted by: sparkle576 at May 18, 2009 6:21 PM

Sideways. Next?

Posted by: chayes at May 18, 2009 6:23 PM

I grew up in Gloucester. After I read the headline "teenage girls in pregnancy pact" and before I read that story I thought "this could happen in Gloucester". Then I read the story. Simultaneous head shaking and fits of laughter followed. Dumb white girls. I have no hope for those children.

Posted by: The Fishah-man at May 18, 2009 6:32 PM

Someone feel free to correct me but I am certain that Lotus is a BRITISH car company. Thus, despite the wonky name, the Lotus Esprit is White Speak for rich-white man's car.

And, depending on where in the States you are, apparently Italian is 'not-white'. This, or so I'm informed, includes present day Seattle.

We could then conclude that were the Lotus Espirt an Italian car that it would be vaguely 'not-white'.

That aside let me conclude by suggesting that your sample of dialog from Juno makes me very happy in my pants that I skipped the film.

Posted by: Spike at May 18, 2009 6:49 PM

um, powder.

Posted by: gp at May 18, 2009 6:52 PM

"um, powder."

I'm telling you. Don't dabble in the Albino territory.

Just don't.

Posted by: Skitz at May 18, 2009 6:55 PM

FOX News. Although I can't say much more about the beloved Olbermann/Maddow ilk. It was you white people's idea to legitimize the treatment of current and relevant news like entertainment news.

Just cause I wouldn't eventually get into a fist fight with an MSNBC anchor doesn't mean that they're not partly to blame for the atmosphere of agit-prop that makes everything believable and rarely ever true.

Posted by: Jackseppelin at May 18, 2009 6:56 PM

You know what's REALLY white?

Making a list of white things.

Posted by: Drake at May 18, 2009 7:10 PM

Ah, Nadine, that was a beautiful thing.

Posted by: Drake at May 18, 2009 7:14 PM

I concur with I Love Beets, there is a disturbing lack of Woody Allen movies on this list. In fact, you could probably make this list with JUST Woody Allen movies.

The thing about making a list of "Blackest movies" is that someone's going to get offended no matter what you name unless the list goes:

5. Shaft
4. Blade
3. Glory
2. Roots
1. Shaft

And I'm betting someone's still gonna jump down my throat for that one.

Posted by: Genny (also Rusty) at May 18, 2009 7:22 PM

you're totally right, skitz, i won't mention that freak in the da vinci code or that whitey jackson guy in foul play (somehow one of my fave movies from childhood) or those weird twins in the 2nd matrix.
omg, albinos are everywhere.

Posted by: gp at May 18, 2009 7:30 PM

"5. Shaft
4. Blade
3. Glory
2. Roots
1. Shaft"

It's strange that these are one syllable words, five letters apiece. GaR, it is evident that you are the racistist of racisters. Please turn in your badge, gun, gun, gun, taser, billy club, brass knuckles, gun, cat o'nine tails, toothbrush fashioned into a shiv, gun, gun, sock full of pennies, gun and pistol.

I think you can find your own way out...

Posted by: Skitz at May 18, 2009 7:46 PM

Well, you get where this is headed... not gonna spell the whole fucking thing out..

Nice Skitz, embrace your inner Cartman

Posted by: Brian at May 18, 2009 7:47 PM

Some white movies:

- Lost in Translation: a movie where an old white man and a young white super rack are the only people who matter in the middle of Tokyo.

- Rachel Getting Married: white people wedding brings out the worst in people. If Rachel's sister had been Lupita or LeShonn, she'd have gotten her face broken in for trying to mess the big event up.

- The Shawshank Redemption: only one black guy and he's the sidekick/Alfred role?

Posted by: Fredo at May 18, 2009 7:49 PM

“Doogie Howser,” in the history of Hollywood there was never a show that was based around a black teenager being a genius that didn’t involve that teenager being a genius at dancing or sports or music.

In all of my years watching Law & Order I never saw an episode where someone that was an African American got killed randomly. There was always drugs or some other type of illegal activity involved as the root cause of that person’s death. Conversely, there where many episodes that whites where killed randomly that didn’t involve illegal activity.

P.S. I’m not looking for an argument, I was just making an observation.

Posted by: Guess Who! at May 18, 2009 7:50 PM

i'm not racist but i once had the most racist nightmare of all. it was called the double white double murder homicde conspiracy.
it involved tying blacks to railroad tracks and running trains running of their bodies. and the bodies where buried under a mobile trailer park filled with white trash white boys.

Posted by: Utah Dynamo at May 18, 2009 7:53 PM

But ChristianH, virtually everyone here is white. When your in a race, you can make fun of it all you want, which is why I hate that Honduran/German fuckstick Carlos Mencia for making fun of other races and not his own. God, that man is a waste of skin.

However, I bet if you ran a pole of race on this site, it would be at least 99% white. Hell, I live in the white part of New Mexico (Los Alamos). And at a certain point, white people need to say when somethings too white, and the same goes for you other races out their too, so don't get lazy, or Tyler Perry wins.

Posted by: George at May 18, 2009 8:00 PM

Yeah George, Tyler Perry wins, right. George, in your self admitted “ I live in the white part of New Mexico,” do white movie directors have any responsibility when it comes to the way that blacks are portrayed in their movies? I ask that question because every time Perry’s name is mentioned usually it is followed by “Perry is a hack and stereotypes black people in his movies.”

Posted by: Guess Who! at May 18, 2009 8:14 PM

Ooooooo Fredo! Good choices!

In my opinion, it's anything Kate Hudson/Jennifer Aniston/Reese Witherspoon has ever done, ever. Many a white women love them some rom-com queens!

And also, let's do a black list, let's do an Asian list, let's do a Latino list. Why not, I say? Spare not a one!

Posted by: Sarah at May 18, 2009 8:20 PM

"Friends" is the whitest teevee show in history, followed closely by "Seinfeld."

Black people don't surf for the same reason we don't sail: We have a bad history on the water.

It's hysterical that Shaft made the list twice. I also offer for your consideration: Boyz in the Hood, Dead Presidents, I'm Gonna Get You Sucka and Love Jones. I'll bet you amount of money you want that my wife is the only white person to ever see Love Jones.

Posted by: Tracer Bullet at May 18, 2009 8:25 PM

how about a native american list a jewish list and a muslim list.

Posted by: Utah Dynamo at May 18, 2009 8:27 PM

Call a white person racist, and he’ll retort, “Nu uh, I like Will Smith,” which is like defending your love of hip-hop by citing New Kids on the Block.

And here I was thinking it would be like defending your love of hip-hop by citing WIll Smith. Interesting.

Posted by: cmoody at May 18, 2009 8:28 PM

To this day, I have not been able to watch The Pursuit of Happyness because I know the basic storyline, and it makes me want to fucking vomit every time I think about it.

That, and I know if I DO watch it, I will be sucked into the bullshit myth and cry like the white fuck I am. And it's fucking bullshit. I might as well watch someone win the goddamned Lotto.

Bootstraps my fucking ass. He just happens to be the one in ten thousand who HAS boots.

Fuck.

As for the rest of these flicks -- feh. Could just as well have named any of a hundred others. Hell, two hundred others. Hell, raise me. Who writes them? Who directs them? Who stars in them? For that matter, who crews them?

Shit.

Posted by: Maryscott O'Connor at May 18, 2009 8:29 PM

Hehe, MSoC. Don't watch it. I knew exactly what it was when I watched it, and STILL I ended up bawling at it--at the same time I was SEETHING with rage that something like that was making me cry and going WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU SOME KIND OF PANSY as I sobbed into my hand.

Fuckin' movie.

Posted by: figgy at May 18, 2009 8:42 PM

I'm not even going to take note of who said what, I'm just going to respond:

In a country where the racism has just popped out of its hiding places in DROVES since the first black President was elected, I'd have to say, YEAH, it's pretty fucking lame to be white right now. I'm goddamned EMBARRASSED to be white right now. The shit I have been seeing in the name of almighty WHITENESS is goddamned fucking shameful. And if a bunch of us intelligent, NON-INBRED motherfucking white people want to take it upon ourselves to do a little gentle self-mockery, and some of you OTHER white people want to take self-righteous fucking OFFENSE at that, feel free to shove that uptight idiocy up your asses.

The outrageous fucking racism (that I, in my apparently ludicrous, sheltered naivete, thought was OUT OF DATE, but is shockingly alive and well and has been THRIVING all over this goddamned country) popping up all over the internet and on lawn signs and showing up in news stories in the form of viral emails depicting the White House lawn covered in WATERMELON GARDENS, for chrissakes... well, jesus, it's been enough to make me want to get a permanent fucking dark goddamned TAN and change my name to Jefferson.

So please, spare me your "Can't we just STOP with the RACE stuff?" outrage. They're putting up pictures on their lawns of my President and his wife and daughters being LYNCHED.

Take your fucking offended tone at this lighthearted self-mockery and stick it where the sun don't shine.

Posted by: Maryscott O'Connor at May 18, 2009 8:43 PM

Tracer, I was mostly trying to hit the Denzel Washington, Wesley Snipes and Issac Hayes trinity while sticking with the "blackest" titles I could think of for each. I am missing Spike Lee, which is a huge oversight on my part.

If this were real life, this would be the point where all the other white people start inching away from me to try and distance themselves from me for committing the terrible faux pas of talking black culture with black people instead of furtively among other white people.

Posted by: Genny (also Rusty) at May 18, 2009 8:48 PM

Preach Sista! You been hoodwinked, you been bamboozled, you didn’t land on racism, racism landed on you.

Mary X

Posted by: Guess Who! at May 18, 2009 8:55 PM

Genny --

"And I'm betting someone's still gonna jump down my throat for that one."

Shaft and Blade... combined with that line of yours I just quoted... was that a DELIBERATE combination???

Because...

Oh, never mind.

Posted by: Maryscott O'Connor at May 18, 2009 8:55 PM

Genny (also Rusty), Gah. How could we forget Spike? I'll have to answer for that at the next meeting.

Posted by: Tracer Bullet at May 18, 2009 9:01 PM

MSoC, I dare say I haven't the faintest clue what you're talking about. My intentions were as pure as the driven snow ; )

Posted by: Genny (also Rusty) at May 18, 2009 9:24 PM

Guess Who, I know you're new around here but that doesn't mean you can make such a bold accusation against Hollywood. Doogie Howser wasn't the only boy genius in tv history. I present the case of "Smart Guy". Starring the little brother of those girls on "Sister, Sister" on Disney. Clearly not a caucasian.
I hope this doesn't dissuade a new poster like yourself from continuing to express your unique opinion.

Posted by: Optimus Rhyme at May 18, 2009 10:05 PM

Guess Who-how did you miss the show 'Smart Guy' starring the little brother of the Lowry twins (from Sister, Sister)? He was a 10 year old genius
that gets skipped grades and ends up in high school with his older sibs.
And Heathen (and all else who have no clue) it's spelled 'MADEA'-not Media.
And Tracer, my white hubby has seen Love Jones too! He had no choice, he knows I LOVE Larenz Tate.

Posted by: Shazza at May 18, 2009 10:08 PM

Sorry, that's Mowry, NOT Lowry.

Posted by: Shazza at May 18, 2009 10:09 PM

Dustin Rowles is the whitest movie reviewer and extremely white publisher of Pajiba. He lives in the whitest city in the whitest state (except Vermont) in the US.

Posted by: krza at May 18, 2009 10:22 PM

Sad, I was hoping that you guys wouldn’t mention “Smart Guy.” Forget the fact that the show was a comedy, and the so called genius couldn’t even finish high school in the show’s brief three year run on the goddamn now defunct “WB” network. But hey, baby steps right?

Posted by: Guess Who! at May 18, 2009 10:26 PM

Black people? Guess Who, I haven't seen one of those since I vacationed in Chicago to see my family. Mexicans and Indians, or red men as the crazy skinhead who runs the meth lab in my neighborhood calls them*, are our states official poor ethnic group.

If you want to complain to the directors, you'll have to head to Santa Fe or Taos, that's where all the artsy liberal hippie types, such as directors, live.

*Yes, even in Los Alamos, meth dealers are a problem.

Posted by: George at May 18, 2009 10:37 PM

'However, I bet if you ran a pole [sic] of race on this site, it would be at least 99% white.'

Did your stats professor tell you that?

Alright, I'll let you off the hook. If I moved past 'Canadian white', I'll let this by. Three demerit Albanian lekqz, though.

That a lot of the media that is covered here skews 'white' simply has to do with the demographics and buying power of whites. This is to say, there are a whole bunch of them, they've got a whole bunch of the money, and the system is not going to mess with a system that works until they absolutely have to. I get the feeling that the people who frequent this site would like to see that change, and I don't know a person of any race who would say to me (straight-faced), 'Hollywood needs more white people, STAT.' I mean, fuck, half the minorities on film are played by white people, and, well, I just don't--hmm, cotton--to that.

But it is the path of least resistance. I'm pretty cold right now, but my lazy ass can't be bothered to close the window. That is the power of the path of least resistance. Although, I am hoping to see some fireworks.

At any rate, marginalization, or some kind of periphery-placement is hardly new for minorities. It's often saddening, but not as sad as being fired. Fuck, I used to get fired like it was my job, and more than one of those dismissals occurred under suspiciously nebulous circumstances, (keep your minimum wage, Duke). But only the most militant and narrow-minded would live in some kind of 'No White Literature Allowed' sort of demi-monde.

Yeah, we want to see more/better representations, but everyone does, nationality be damned. But that's not the only reason I won't be seeing The Marriage Bride: This Time with the Pink Serious Business-ness Lady Aging Spinster-Weep, or Dr. Porkenheimer: Licensed Beef Counselor Gets Reformed by a Boring, Bland Castrating Bitch-Troll from Hell--from Next Door! Also, She's America's Sweetheart! People like to bitch, and our free and open society doesn't give us enough opportunity to do that!

Hollywood has a long and proud history of ignoring minorities, but it is impossible for us to ignore it--it's too pervasive and influential for us get haughty about it. Am I supposed to feel ashamed when someone goes on about the virtue of not buying into mass media? LAUGH. 'Ooh, you don't own a TV? Is that why you didn't know that the Berlin Wall had come down until 1997? How's the weather in Pangaea, Senorita Current Events?'

Sometimes entertainment is even entertaining, though I can't handle a hipster/anti-hipster indie quirk free-for-all.

No one's going to start a fight, or force anyone to comment on lectures dissecting 'The White Man's Burden', or, The Complete and Utter Volumes of Donkey Mucous Produced by Abortion-Fodder Gobineau, or Ugh, Haven't You Had Enough of This Italian Criminologist? FOR, I SAY TO YOU, I HAVE!

To my fellow coloured and/or Canadian Pajiba-Mates, um...Happy Victoria Day. And what a day for this conversation. Rats off to ya, Disraeli, you're the only one charismatic enough who could make that clucking, dramatic overstuffed piece of woad the fucking Empress of India. I'm in a pugilistic mood, bring back Gladstone. I want a slap-i-cane. All hail Victoria, the inbred, jowly, pudding-faced ancestor of inbred Nazi scum to come. Philip and Melusine send their love. Too far? My family is being CRAZY this week, I say, 'Not Far Enough!'

Where are my freaking FIREWORKS???? It's after 10:30! Canada closes at 11:06! Ugh, I can't do this, my fever...fucking docile neighbourhood. Must sleep, so cold.

*sigh*

Posted by: Jo 'Mama' Besser at May 18, 2009 10:41 PM

that's my mama!

Posted by: gp at May 18, 2009 10:57 PM

George, you were the one that said you lived in the “White part of New Mexico” whatever the fuck that means. So my take is that you have a somewhat wrapped idea about Tyler Perry. And so your ideas about black people come from movies and t.v. and the internets and shit. Hey, wasn’t “The Tao of Steve” filmed in New Mexico? One of my all time favorite movies, I used to fancy myself as a black Steve, but my first name wasn’t as quite as catchy. In my case it would have been called “The Tao of Alphonso.”

Posted by: Guess Who! at May 18, 2009 11:09 PM

I wouldn't Guess that Guess Who and I had so much in common! I love the Tao of Steve too. I just rewatched it. I spread his teachings. I take young men under my wing and teach them the ways of Steve. The three rules.
I like your style GW (George Washington? Lol!)

Posted by: Optimus Rhyme at May 19, 2009 12:23 AM

If I have half-White children, I am SO gonna name them Quirk and Whimsy.

Posted by: ceejeemcbeegee at May 19, 2009 1:22 AM

Damn, Maryscott O'Connor. Break it down so it can forever and consistently be broke, why dontcha? ;-)

Posted by: ceejeemcbeegee at May 19, 2009 1:25 AM

I wanna put my vote in for Peggy Sue Got Married as the whitest of the white. It's so white that it almost can't dance.

Posted by: The Pink Hulk at May 19, 2009 2:52 AM

Ha! My niece and nephew are half-white. I was lobbying for:

Summer Madison Whole Foods Closure Meat Loaf Ski Trip Prog Rock O'Zepplin

and

Blagojevich Golf Ball Life Coach Ira Glass Mayonnaise Jolson Lilith Fair Liberal Guilt the Third.

or Annie Hall

Posted by: Jo 'Mama' Besser at May 19, 2009 4:12 AM

Drake, thank you.

I told my dad that idea, he insisted I actually write it into a movie. I said that's not my style of writing and was hokey and 'Hollywood' enough that it would damage my integrity.
He said 'Yes...but MONEY'

Didn't make a whole lot of sense.
But there ya go.

Posted by: Nadine at May 19, 2009 4:13 AM

No 'Driving Miss Daisy'?

Posted by: Keith at May 19, 2009 8:11 AM

I have a black pal who told me that 'Sex, Lies, & Videotape' should have been called 'White Folks Sure Are Crazy!'

Posted by: Keith at May 19, 2009 8:12 AM

None of this holds a candle to the levels of whiteness I've seen at Elvis Costello concerts, Tom Waits concerts and Kids in the Hall live performances.

Posted by: Rhett at May 19, 2009 12:49 PM

Well, Shazza, he could have misspelled it Medea...

Posted by: Maryscott O'Connor at May 19, 2009 12:58 PM

Why do people say that Minneapolis or St. Paul (same thing, one big city) is white? Combined they're more than 30% minority. Population growth in those cities in exclusively minority, while white people are leaving in droves. (source: 2000 Census)

Posted by: James at May 19, 2009 3:48 PM

>>Chariots of Fire, they run so slow

I would argue that any British films before the 90s don't count, as we can assume any British film before that you couldn't call "white" would be an anomaly. For instance, this was why MY BEAUTIFUL LAUNDRETTE was notable at the time.

My votes? Oh dear heavens, I grew up in a suburb during the John Hughes era--so many to choose. ST. ELMO'S FIRE is certainly up there. But I'm surprised ORDINARY PEOPLE didn't make the list. Actually, any number of films from about 1980-81 could be called that--all of a sudden, after years of films suddenly embracing urban and ethnic mileus, it went the other way and everyone was white and wearing sweaters. REUBEN, REUBEN, CLASS, EDUCATING RITA(wait, that's technically British, but oh well), THE WORLD ACCORDING TO GARP(which I like), and so forth; the preppification of 80s cinema.

Posted by: JLRoberson at May 20, 2009 6:42 AM

I second Rachel Getting Married. (even though I really liked that movie). All that damn hippy-dippie multiculturalism (coopting) with the saris and the samba and the OMG the crunk dancing in the reception scene. I cringed so hard it was audible.

Oh and the LOTR trilogy (even though I liked the books too). The only dark things in Middle Earth are the freaking Orcs, unless you count the giant trees which, ok I guess they do count with the Voice of God, James Earl Jones baritone

Posted by: Kaybie at May 21, 2009 4:53 AM

I am with you on Juno, but how dare you suggest Lost is white? I think you forgot to list the most white movie in all of cinema, wait for it... American Beauty

Posted by: cookie at May 22, 2009 12:13 AM

Which is the whiter sport, golf or skiing (my vote's for the latter)?

Posted by: Nick Jones at May 24, 2009 10:14 PM

Woody Allen movies are too Jewish to be White. Jews are funny. White people aren't funny. We are witty. And pithy. And occasionally droll.

Posted by: The Mutt at May 27, 2009 4:46 PM

How the fuck has Wes Anderson not been mentioned? I mean, I love the man, but his films are just so goddamn white.

Posted by: SqualorVictoria at May 29, 2009 2:52 AM

how could you have left out Titanic?

Posted by: BLZ at May 31, 2009 11:08 AM

How about Sideways? An aspiring writer. Wine snobs. Golf. Angst. Sex with a skinny waitress because she drinks a lot of wine. Sex with a fat waitress because she's "two tons of fun" (IOW, a lower-class thrill on the way to your upper-class wife). More angst. So white they should have called it Liebfraumilch.

Posted by: RAFritz at June 4, 2009 12:16 PM

And I almost forgot (as did everybody else) the ultimate in white cinema: The Big Chill.

Posted by: RAFritz at June 4, 2009 12:20 PM





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