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The Six Most Unfortunate Influential Films


A Seriously Random List / Dustin Rowles

Seriously Random Lists | April 17, 2009 | Comments (78)


Earlier this week, Turner Movie Classics came out with a list of the 15 most influential films of all time, which mostly amounted to classics that influenced the way movies were made or marketed. Styles and techniques from those films have been used ever since, and in the case of a few of those movies, they practically invented entire genres.

But what about films that have had a negative influence on cinema? Superior films, in most cases, that were so wildly popular that they inspired a series of copycats and pale imitators, in addition to the occasionally good film that built on the original’s success, instead of completely copying it?

To that end, here are the six most unfortunate influential films of all time:


6. Freaky Friday: I doubt that the original 1976 Freaky Friday was the first body-transfer movie ever, but it was the first big hit. And what other body transference movies do we have to thank Freaky Friday for? The good: Big and, perhaps, the Freaky Friday remake, Heaven Can Wait and 13 Going on 30. The awful: Like Father, Like Son, Vice Versa, It’s a Boy Girl Thing, 18 Again, Dream a Little Dream and this weekend’s 17 Again. And if it’s successful, you can probably count on remakes of most of the above films. Awesome.

5. The Matrix: A great action flick (one of the best of the last 25 years). But it’s innovation was not in its narrative, but in the Wachowski Brothers’ use of bullet-time photography combined with wire work in Eastern kung-fu movies and computer effects. Unfortunately, in addition to inspiring two much lesser sequels, the Wachowski’s also inspired the visual effects in damn near every action movie since. The worst of these stylistic rip-ofs were movies like Charlie’s Angels, The One, Eagle Eye, Equilibrium, Underworld, Ultraviolet, Resident Evil and Alien vs. Predator, just to name a few. Of course, the Wachowskis were also a huge influence on Timur Bekmambatov, who gave us the Night Watch trilogy and the entertaining, but full-on Matrix rip-off, Wanted.

4. Pulp Fiction Quentin Tarantino’s biggest influence was in his use of nonlinear storylines and the extensive use of pop-culture references, which has become — for good or bad — part of the scriptwriting process today. It inspired a slew of copycats, good (Go, Lock Stock, and Two Barrels), bad (Things to Do in Denver When You’re Dead, Two Days in the Valley, Suicide Kings) and mediocre (Get Shorty, Smokin’ Aces, the rest of Guy Ritchie’s oeuvre.

3. Toy Story 2: Toy Story 2 essentially did for computer-animated movies what Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs did for 2D animation. By grossing nearly $500 million worldwide, Toy Story 2 suggested that computer-animated movies were extremely commercially viable and pretty much made 2D animation extinct. And while that’s been good in many ways (everything Pixar has made, since), it’s not been so good in other ways (nearly every other computer animated film since, the most heinous of these including Kung Fu Panda, Shark Tale, Happy Feet, Madagascar, Ice Age and the Shrek sequels.)

2. Saw: The original Saw had some modest entertainment value, mostly for its ability — at the time — to make you wriggle in disgust. But I dare say, nothing good has come from Saw, and way too much has come from it. I speak of the entire torture porn genre, which thankfully (but for the Saw series) has mostly flamed out. But before it did, we were introduced to entirely too much sadistic horror. Eli Roth has, so far, built a career out of it. And we also have Saw to thank for Captivity, I Know Who Killed Me, Turistas, Rob Zombie’s films, and even The Passion of the Christ. So, thanks for that, James Wan.

1. Airplane: As much as I loved Airplane and it’s most immediate successors, Top Secret and Naked Gun, I would gladly give them all back to the cinematic Gods if it meant none of their successors were ever made. Airplane basically invented the genre spoof, and it’s been unrelentingly downhill since the original Naked Gun. What do we have to thank Airplane for? For starters, the awful Naked Gun sequels. Also, Scary Movie and it’s succession of sequels. But worst of all? The careers of Jason Friedberg and Aaron Seltzer, who have given us: Meet the Spartans, Disaster Movie, Epic Movie and Spy Hard. And what do we get next? Keenan Ivory Wayan’s upcoming Dance Flick.


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Comments

Pretty much.

"18 Again"....Gah! I'd forgotten that one.

Posted by: Jay at April 17, 2009 2:05 PM

2d animation is dead because Disney has been shit for the last couple decades and they used to be the forerunner in great 2d animation. Too much nepotism and lack of originality clutter studios that aren't Pixar. Really what you should be crying about is that there are no other studios on par with them, so other people try to capitalize on the popularity and make utter shit.

Posted by: Hurp Durp at April 17, 2009 2:07 PM


Kung Fu Panda was awesome. Dude, do you have kids? Do you understand that digital animation allows a happy medium for parents and children? I took my 2/12 year old through the DR for three weeks with a portable DVD player and Madagascar. Kung Fu Panda, then, or Cindarella? These are fucking lifesavers. Happy Feet? I love that movie, instrumentally.

Posted by: Lance at April 17, 2009 2:11 PM

But the rest o'the list is genius.

Posted by: Lance at April 17, 2009 2:11 PM

Fatal Attraction!! How many terrible clones have we seen of that movie?

Posted by: Park at April 17, 2009 2:13 PM

I've been meaning to write a blog post about the utter weirdness that was 'Happy Feet'. Every time I watch that movie I get seriously freaked out, and I need to figure out why. It's just so weird to me for some reason.

I hate that everyone is declaring 2D animation to be dead. It makes me sad. Last night I was watching Sleeping Beauty, and my God, the things they did with Maleficent? No 3D movie could equal the creepiness of how she moves. 3D can do a lot of wonderful things, but 2D is magic NOT helped along by computers. Witness Miyazaki.

Posted by: figgy at April 17, 2009 2:15 PM

Kung Fu Panda was awesome.

I also think 'Iron Man' and 'DKR' will inspire heinous comic book movies for years to come.

It's like they just can't figure out that in order to have a successful movie, somebody with actual talent needs to write the fucking thing.

Posted by: twig at April 17, 2009 2:16 PM

I would add Blair Witch to this unfortunate list as well...

Posted by: boo at April 17, 2009 2:17 PM

I hate that everyone is declaring 2D animation to be dead.

Domestically, it is quite dead. I love 2D as well. Even if people don't want to return to the traditional 2d style, I think they could take some cues from Waltz with Bashir.

Posted by: Hurp Durp at April 17, 2009 2:19 PM

Figgy

If you love animation, I'd recommend that Sinbad by DreamWorks that came out a while back. The story was nothing spectacular but the animation effects (I think it's a 2-D/3-D hybrid in places) are interesting, and the animation on Eris, the Goddess of Chaos, is some of the most lovely work I've ever seen. Really spectacular stuff.

Posted by: twig at April 17, 2009 2:19 PM

I would add Blair Witch to this unfortunate list as well...

Yeah I'm not a fan of the shaky "omg it's like I'm there" cam or the viral marketing that went with that movie.

Posted by: Hurp Durp at April 17, 2009 2:21 PM

I can't believe you put "Two Days in the Valley" in the bad and "Smokin' Aces" with the mediocre.

Posted by: EricD at April 17, 2009 2:26 PM

Oof, definitely, boo. Shaky cam horror needs to go away already.

And on that note, The Ring. I could be wrong, but didn't that start the whole J-horror madness? I really liked that movie, but it spawned a lot of crap.

Posted by: figgy at April 17, 2009 2:26 PM

Shaky cam horror needs to go away already

The success of the last two 'Bourne' movies inspiring anyone else to shake the camera so bad I get seasick. Yes. Please, god, keep the camera still. I like to actually watch the movie I'm watching.

Posted by: twig at April 17, 2009 2:31 PM

I liked Snatch. Wasn't that one of Guy Ritchie's?

Figgy's right; I think The Ring spawned off The Grudge, the Descent, the one with Kristen Bell and a few others.

13 Going on 30 was good? Please. It was campy and stupid. I'll even take Gaby Hoffman's Freaky Friday remake over that.

While the new versions have raped the proverbial well, I still think that the first Scary Movie was funny. They actually managed to keep it about scary movies, instead of the sequels, which spoof anything regarding pop culture.

Posted by: Brie at April 17, 2009 2:36 PM

I also think 'Iron Man' and 'DKR' will inspire heinous comic book movies for years to come.

It's like they just can't figure out that in order to have a successful movie, somebody with actual talent needs to write the fucking thing.

I have to disagree with twig here. Iron Man and DKR are the (very fortunate) product of prior super hero movies that sparked this trend. I would have to say that it was the success of X-Men in 2000 that spawned the comic book movie craze. It was after X-Men we saw the likes of the original Hulk, Daredevil, Punisher, and Fantastic Four.

Then again, before X-Men the superhero movies being made were a complete joke (e.g., Nick Fury, Captain America, Dolph Lundgren's Punisher, etc.)

If anything, I think "Iron Man" and "DKR" will, hopefully, foster a future in which studios do recognize that "actual talent needs to writhe the fucking thing." The way Marvel has been handling, Thor, is just one example. I think Marvel and DC and their related studios look at "Iron Man" and "DKR" and realize just how much money there is to be made when they do it "right."

Posted by: Forbiddendonut at April 17, 2009 2:38 PM

Nice list, I totally agree with the Shaky-cam crap, It's one of the reasons I'm hesitant to see Crank 2.

I have a real beef with the bullet-time overusage. Bullet-time is a result of manipulating the Matrix so how the hell can it happen out of the Matrix? Are you in the Matrix Charlie's Angels? ARE YOU!? No! Then fuck off! You especially Barrymore!

Posted by: admin at April 17, 2009 2:42 PM

I enjoyed all of these movies pretty much:

Go, Lock Stock, and Two Barrels Things to Do in Denver When You’re Dead, Two Days in the Valley, Suicide Kings, and Get Shorty. (Haven't see Smokin’ Aces).

Maybe it was because Pulp Fiction was simply the movie when I was really into films.

Posted by: Forbiddendonut at April 17, 2009 2:42 PM

donut;

I hope you're right. I would love a solid Iron Man trilogy, a great Thor movie, a War Machine spinoff, Avengers, hell maybe that would pave the way for a Runaways movie. Or - pleasepleaseplease - Ex Machina.

Hell, am I the only person on Pajiba who reads/loves 'Empowered?' That could be an adorable sexy comedy vehicle for the right cast.

The trailers for Wolverine are not, however, much comfort.

Posted by: twig at April 17, 2009 2:44 PM

Kung Fu Panda was so cute! And I loved the animation. And for once fancy schmancy famous actors didn't bother me as the voices. Because you can't go wrong with Ian McShane as an evil jungle beast.

Posted by: Julie at April 17, 2009 2:52 PM

I speak of the entire torture porn genre.

Allow me to mount my high-horse here.

1) "Torture Porn" is not a genre of film. It is a defamatory term used by film critics and watchdogs uncomfortable with violence in horror films in an effort to degrade the entire genre. As far as I am aware (thanks to the sickos at IMDB Horror Boards (who I love very much)), there are pornographic films with torture content. They are not, however, given wide releases in chain theaters and reviewed by print, digital, and televised markets. Chances are, if it was in your local multi-plex, it's not even close to "torture porn."

2) Saw is not a gory film. The power of suggestion is a very amazing thing. If a horror filmmaker does a good enough job of convincing you something bad will happen, you can very easily imagine it happened. Saw is one of those films. The gore is minimal, and no ultra-violence is seen on screen in detail. Sure, the suggestion of, say, ripping a man's intestines out to find a key and remove your head from a reverse bear trap is horrifying. If filmed in full details, I probably would avoid ever watching the movie that contained said scene. But Saw does not show everything in any of these scenarios. Many times, you don't see anything at all.

I'd go on, and I have gone on in the past, but I'll keep it brief today.

Posted by: Robert at April 17, 2009 2:54 PM

Naked Gun is awesome and I'll watch it anytime it's on (which is ALL THE TIME.)

Mrs. Presley's timing surprised me every time, as do her cheekbones.

Posted by: Sofía's Identical Hand Twin at April 17, 2009 2:56 PM

A double shot of The Matrix and Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon pretty much ruined Hollywood for wire work. The talkies keep striving for believability (or at the least suspended disbelief) with this special effect, but they usually just shit all over the screen instead. If you're not going balls out fantastical like they did in the Dragon, don't even bother. It just looks unnatural and choppy.

Posted by: Leigh Hacksaw at April 17, 2009 2:56 PM

twig

I totally agree about the Wolverine trailers. They look... abysmal. And I love Wolverine and like Hugh Jackman. I plan to write that one off as having already been too far down the path to have been properly influenced by Iron Man and DKR. (That's the plan anyway).

Either Runaways or Ex Machina would make a setllar movie. Vaughn's dialogue would sizzle on screen.

It will be interesting to see what the limited success Watchmen will have on such movies. (Personally, I think it was quite successful given what it was. Expectations were unrealistic for the film.) I think the immediate effect will be limited "R-Rated" super hero flicks. (See, also, The Punisher).

I'm not familiar with "Empowered". I must needs check it out.

Posted by: Forbiddendonut at April 17, 2009 2:59 PM

donut;

"Empowered" started out as Adam Warren's cheesecake doodles of a superhero with an outfit that got ripped to shreds every time she fought.

It's on book four now, and is at turns dramatic, sexy, funny, creative, romantic, action-packed and insane. I think it's really enjoyable and the story is pretty impressive for how shallow and one-note it could be.

Some people really hate Warren's artwork, so that might be the deal breaker, but it's at least worth a flip through.

Posted by: twig at April 17, 2009 3:09 PM

Also, Echo is pretty impressive so far. Terry Moore's 'SiP' follow-up, and it seems a lot tighter and less prone to poetic meanderings.

Posted by: twig at April 17, 2009 3:14 PM

I can't agree with the inclusion of The Matrix. Especially since it somehow made Keanau Reeves an acceptable actor (to me, and only in this film). But besides that, I loved the effects, the story, just about everything.

Posted by: Cindy at April 17, 2009 3:18 PM

What about 'Snatch'? I loved Snatch. It made me like Brad Pitt, though, and I still haven't quite forgiven it for that.

Posted by: figgy at April 17, 2009 3:20 PM

I agree on the animated film points, but I would like to point out the only totally underrated non-Pixar film that is often forgotten... Over The Hedge.

Posted by: Amy at April 17, 2009 3:33 PM

I detest the fact that 2d is a dying breed. Iron Giant is and will remain my favorite G rated movie. It was such a sweet story, the characters voices weren't distracting at all and, in my opinion, beautifully animated.

Posted by: Wormer at April 17, 2009 3:40 PM

For good superhero literary stuff, nothing beats Soon I will be Invincible, Hero, and Playing for Keeps.

Posted by: Adam C at April 17, 2009 3:41 PM

I think this list is pretty good. I even am for the inclusion of Toy Story 2, but I am not convinced the near extinction of 2D is a true negative consequence. Let me 'splain.

Great 2D animation is exquisite and should be treasured. But there have been few great American 2D animated movies made in the last 30-40 years, especially outside Disney, and tons of reeediculous crap over the same time period. We can't even talk about the 70's and 80's which were abominations where the studios were convinced that animated films couldn't do box office and so slashed the animation departments and where kids were forced to watch 6 frame per second animation on TV. The 90's-00's were better as Disney realized the fallacy of abandoning quality animation and computers made 2D animation a little cheaper. Still the "hit/miss" ratio of good 2D animated films was still terribly low and the "hit/abomination" ratio was still too high.

Since 3D computer animation has become more popular, everything Pixar has done has been great, there have been very good efforts from other studios (including Kung Fu Panda, bitch) and most importantly fewer abominations.

Posted by: ed newman at April 17, 2009 4:14 PM

Whoops, shb

*hit/abomination ratio was still too LOW*

Posted by: ed newman at April 17, 2009 4:17 PM

How about "Star Trek: The Motion Picture"?

Before Star Trek, the idea of turning a television series into a movie franchise was unthinkable. And even after Star Trek a number of adaptations died pretty spectacularly (the Nude Bomb). But the Star Trek franchise kept chugging along, and it motivated studios to keep churning out 5-10 TV adaptations every year for the last quarter century.

Posted by: Laughner at April 17, 2009 4:29 PM

I think all Guy Ritchie movies are great besides that Madonna one, Swept Away. Lock, Snatch, and especially RocknRolla were great. But Swept Away was so bad that I can see it bringing the rest down just by association.

Posted by: Continental Almonds at April 17, 2009 4:43 PM

I don't see the connection between Pulp Fiction and Suicide Kings. SK didnt have the nonlinear storytelling or pulp culture referrences that PF did. However, I do know that there is one great movie that I feel was influenced by QT's narrative style in PF and that, my friends, is Memento.

Posted by: Smatt584 at April 17, 2009 4:55 PM

Seconding the love for Things to Do in Denver When You're Dead (Did you really dance the foxtrot with a $3000 a night call girl in Paris?) and 2 Days in the Valley (naked Charlize Theron, James Spader chewing scenery).

Also, I think "Soon I Will Be Invincible" is pretty overrated. It falls into the World War Z trap of being a really good idea that is ruined by really bad writing. Soon I Will... is just way too formulaic with the back and forth narrative, and no one, NO ONE, talks like the characters in WWZ. I look forward to the films just so someone can fix the mistakes of the novels.

Posted by: JakesAlterEgo at April 17, 2009 5:35 PM

I like Suicide Kings and Equilibrium.

Posted by: Bucko at April 17, 2009 5:53 PM

Um, "Heaven Can Wait" was a remake of a movie from 1941. The remake thing probably had more to do with its production than "Freaky Friday." And it is a good movie, for those whippersnappers who haven't even heard of it.

Just sayin'. I doubt Warren Beatty saw "Freaky Friday" and thought, "Zounds! I must make a movie just like that, only with a football player as the main character instead of a teenage girl!"

Posted by: Slash at April 17, 2009 5:55 PM

Great list, I wish I got up earlier so I could comment. Fucking head cold.

Posted by: George at April 17, 2009 6:11 PM

replying to Robert, in re "torture porn"

There's no hardcore porn that includes "splatter-effects" style torture. There's softcore stuff, which is basically a horror movie meets Skinemax film, and there's heavy BDSM stuff, most of which is softcore (i.e., no penetration, and in many cases, no oral, either). The only hardcore porn I know of that includes "torture" is a small segment of heavy-bondage flicks where the "torture" in question is being slapper with a flogger or having clamps put in sensitive places. And even those - all of them I'm aware of, actually - include a interview segments before and after the action where it is clearly established that everyone involved is doing this for (their own kinky idea of) fun.

There is no "torture porn" of the kind you seem to be alluding to, Robert, and, if anything, the softcore porn that shows badly-executed special-effects disembowlings belongs more properly to a boobs-included subgenre of the likes of "Hostel" and "Saw {x}" rather than pornography per se.

The point of referring to these movies *as* "torture porn" is to draw attention to the way they fetishize violence. The violence in "Hostel" is happening to the character, who does not consent and to whom horrible things are happening. The "violence" (to the extent that spanking someone with a leather flogger is "violence") in even the heaviest of hardcore BDSM porns is happening to a performer who explicitly articulates her consent, and the kinds of acts being perpetrated are not even close to comparable.

Posted by: Landon at April 17, 2009 6:20 PM

Cable Guy
It was one of the first films I can remember to use uncomfortable embarrassing awkwardness as a source of humor. Gervais and Carell have milked it dry on The Office serieses and more recently I Love You, Man had me squirming, wishing it would stop.

Posted by: bradm at April 17, 2009 6:30 PM

Three relatively quick points:

1) Dustin, how the hell do you give a favorable review to Crank: High Voltage while slamming Smokin' Aces? They're virtually the same film in terms of what they seek to accomplish. Both are simply ape-shit actioners that simply ask their viewer to come along for the ride. By the time you get to Aces' "twist," you've overdosed on gunplay to the point where you either don't care or know that the "twist" was a paper-thin plot point used simply to justify the mayhem of the previous 89 minutes.

2) Get Shorty is a simply fun gangster comedy, based on a swell book by the great Elmore Leonard. It doesn't remotely rely on non-linear storytelling, unless you consider flashbacks to be "non-linear." And, if that's the case, the phenomenon of "non-linear storytelling" goes back much farther than Pulp Fiction.

3) I agree with Robert's point about torture porn for the most part, but would like to add a point of my own. Saw is not the film that begot the films Dustin lists - that dubious honor goes to Saw 2. The original saw was a pretty effective tip of the cap to the giallo genre that had come before. It succeeds as a tense thriller with some great set pieces and a fantastic resolution. Saw 2, on the other hand, was a cash-in. Instead of maintaining tension and characters that one could care about, Saw 2 threw cookie-cutter characters into death traps. Once that shitty flick was deemed successful, the floodgates of shittiness opened.

Posted by: David at April 17, 2009 7:00 PM

Awful Naked Gun sequels? Did you actually write that?


Your closeted Ryan Reynolds fantasies are affecting your brain, funboy.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at April 17, 2009 7:19 PM

Figured "Die Hard" would make this list...for years after action flicks would come out w/ the implication that it was "Die Hard on a ship" or some other enclosed space where one man fights off terrorists.

Now a couple of these flicks were good...Under Siege, SPeed, but tons of generic, shitty action films made the same "Die Hard on a..." claim. "The Rock" was billed as "Die Hard on an island." And lest we forget Van Damme's "Sudden Death," which was tabbed as "Die Hard in a hockey arena."

Posted by: stryker1121 at April 17, 2009 7:47 PM

You want to give airplane back to the cinematic gods?

Surely you can't be serious.

Shiiit...Jive ass dude don't got no brains anyhow...

Posted by: Some Guy at April 17, 2009 8:00 PM


Or "Animal House"? Love the original, but so much badness had sprung from its roots. Never has so much good made it possible for the cascading waterfalls of crap that followed.

Posted by: Lance at April 17, 2009 8:06 PM

David- I understand what you're saying about Smoking Aces and Crank, but the former took itself waaay too seriously to accomplish even a portion of what it set out to do, and was accomplished, by the latter. Smoking Aces had a lot of potential, but they couldnt find a unified tone to pull it all together and the whole movie ended up sucking copious amounts of ass because of it.

Posted by: smatt584 at April 17, 2009 8:50 PM

I'm with Bucko. You leave Equilibrium alone.

Posted by: Ginginho at April 17, 2009 9:30 PM

Kung Fu Panda was great. Did you even see it?

Posted by: TL at April 17, 2009 10:03 PM

Also, what's with all this "death of 2d" nonsense? 2d is only dead in the west because western audiences are sheep. The ideal situation is a combination of cell animation and CG, ala the Ghost In The Shell films/Tv shows.

Posted by: Some Guy at April 17, 2009 10:33 PM

i'm having a duh moment. what is DKR? is that dark knight returns? cuz i thought that was a graphic novel. did i get the movie name wrong or what? what's happening?!?!

Posted by: gp at April 17, 2009 11:00 PM

Equilibrium is a pretty good flick with some nice undertones and some non-traditional bits for an action flick [the "romantic interest's" fate for example). I can never get over gun-kata though no matter how much I have grown to like the film. Just too stupid. Shame that.

Posted by: Sal at April 18, 2009 2:29 AM

Equilibrium was alright, but I could never get over the fact that it was still just another ripoff of fahrenheit 451. With guns.

Posted by: Smatt584 at April 18, 2009 2:56 AM

While the Star Trek movie, which came out in '79, may have been the first example of a TV show becoming a film, I don't think it was until The Fugitive came out in '93, and The Brady Bunch Movie came out in '95 that it really turned into the trend we ended up with today.

Posted by: spazmodeas at April 18, 2009 3:51 AM

Things to Do in Denver When You’re Dead bad? You're kidding, right?

And what does this movie has to do with Pulp Fiction? It neither has the episodic style, nor the pop culture references. The two share a few common themes, but Things to Do in Denver When You’re Dead is a movie about a man going down slowly - a tragedy - while Pulp Fiction is a grotesque.

Posted by: FabMax at April 18, 2009 7:23 AM

Get Shorty didn't suck. It was as good as its sequel, Be Cool, was bad. Boy did that movie stink! Be Cool sucked suppurating cock. Reverse that for Get Shorty, I'm saying.

Posted by: AdaHaze at April 18, 2009 10:05 AM

I'm actually going to go with apatow or maybe ferrell for spawning the whole: let's do the same movie, in slightly different forms or time periods, with a random combination of the same 8 actors. I'm thinking like dodgeball/starsky and hutch/etc...or knocked up and its progeny. I'm all for building a movie around a freakishly talented actor, but I often feel like these movies are more about who is in it (and ben stiller is not worthy of such treatment), and the plot is just wrapping paper the movies discards 10 minutes in.

Posted by: "luker" the barbarian at April 18, 2009 10:24 AM

stryker1121: Ah, yes, the "Die Hard on a...." subgenre. Thank sweet merciful God that subgenre eventually burned itself out. It probably happened around the time that some dipshit Hollywood screenwriter ** almost ** sold a screenplay based on a treatment for a movie he pitched as "Die Hard in an Office Building" True story.

Posted by: Laughner at April 18, 2009 2:41 PM

I'm going to suggest "Scream" for this list. It unleashed a TON of copy-cat slasher flicks, all featuring hot-at-that-minute casts full of 20-somethings and implausible plot twists when it came to the killer. The worst of these had to be "Urban Legend" if only because when the killer is revealed there is no WAY they could have pulled off the killings.

Also "Kung Fu Panda", "Happy Feet" and "Snatch" are indeed great.

Posted by: TylerDFC at April 18, 2009 2:54 PM

Minor point of contention:
Rob Zombie's first film came out a year before Saw.

Posted by: Stew at April 18, 2009 5:05 PM

The gun kata in Equilibrium is pretty silly, but no more so than any of Keanu's programming or awakenings as the One. And it works mostly because it is a rip off Fahrenheit 451. Although I would say there's enough other movies out there that it apes as to qualify it as an homage, or amalgamation.

Posted by: Blair at April 18, 2009 5:17 PM

Its its its its its its its

Posted by: Chris at April 18, 2009 5:59 PM

you take yer spotty Kevin Smith groping hands off Kung Fu Panda and Snatch, Mr. Rowles.

just walk away, walk away.

Posted by: Soylent Green is Sheeple at April 18, 2009 7:47 PM

With regard to no. 6 - All of Me was ok, no? Lily Tomlin? Steve Martin 1.0? Granted, the majority of the genre is just terrible. She's the Man, Just One of the Guys and its retarded little sister Just One of the Girls - shudder.

Posted by: Whiny Dancer at April 19, 2009 1:56 AM

wheres the "sixth sense" on this list... while it wasnt the first to explore the trick /twist/ it was all a dream perception, it certainly influenced alot of other movies to do that stupid twist thing.

and specialy movies that had good potential : Identity, High Tension... etc.

Posted by: sara at April 19, 2009 12:18 PM

2D, near death but not forgotten, any of the DC properties on cartoon network(JLAs) have been great.

Posted by: jasiah at April 19, 2009 12:25 PM

I'm not sure this list isn't just, you know, a list of the natural evolution of things. ANy really good movie in Hollywood immediately sparks imitation, and many of those imitators naturally are gonna be bad. But I'm curious to see Toy Story 2 up there. The truth is, if Toy Story 2 HADN'T made money, then we wouldn't likely have had all the Pixar gems which followed. Which were worth putting up with all of the below-par films we HAVE had to watch, of which, really, madagascar was a great one. Not Pixar-great, but the funniest of the rest.


The worst, incidentally, was The Wild. Heavy-handed, embarrassing, derivative, slow. The Roseanne-Barr-as-a-cow one wasn't great either, and The Barnyard (?) was pretty bad.

Posted by: karstark at April 19, 2009 12:56 PM

I took my son to Kung Fu Panda and we both really liked it. And I usually hate that stuff. It was plenty of fun and didn't wallow in pop culture references "for the parents." I would even see it again.

I wouldn't, however, see The Matrix again.

Posted by: Irving at April 19, 2009 1:28 PM

its = the possessive pronoun
it's = "it is"
The two are never interchangeable.

Posted by: HelpWithGrammar at April 19, 2009 3:39 PM

Oh, come on- Naked Gun 2 1/2 and Vice Versa melt your face off.

"I'm single! I love being single! I haven't had this much sex since I was a Boy Scout leader!"

Posted by: Abe Froman at April 19, 2009 4:00 PM

HEY! The Naked Gun 2 1/2 and 33 1/3 were pretty damn funny, and so was 18 Again. They should have put another entry on the list for Dark Knight/Iron Man. Why? Because they're going to inspire studios to make more grown up, more believable comic book movies with deeper plots and better actors than before.

Posted by: Doctor Controversy at April 20, 2009 10:01 AM

WHOA I am not the only person defending Kung Fu Panda it seems.

For real, that movie rules.

Posted by: danny at April 20, 2009 10:14 AM

2D is not entirely dead, even in the west. Disney's The Princess and the Frog comes out later this year. It's their first ever African American princess. I really hope it revives the genre. I love the princess movies. I don't care if that makes me a dork.

Posted by: Izzy at April 20, 2009 5:45 PM

You can add THE EXORCIST, JAWS, and ALIEN. Great movies all but not including their own official sequels, how many lame knock offs did they inspire? Hundreds? Thousands?

Posted by: John W at April 20, 2009 6:07 PM

Vice Versa is adapted from a book of the same name written in 1882 by F. Anstey and was made into a 1948 British film. So technically it's a spawn of it's own horridness.

Posted by: CJ at April 21, 2009 4:07 PM


>>(nearly every other computer animated film since, the most heinous of these including Kung Fu Panda, Shark Tale, Happy Feet, Madagascar, Ice Age and the Shrek sequels.)
>>the most heinous of these including Kung Fu Panda, Shark Tale, Happy Feet
>>Happy Feet


Wait, what? This film was a critical favorite when it was released, and was probably the only animated film thus far to actually veer away from the static Pixar mold that everyone and their mother had been following, up to that point.

I do not understand. And, I am frightened.

Posted by: Billy Jean at April 23, 2009 1:34 PM

If it weren't for the special effects, The Matrix would've been nothing but an uber-bland movie that would've went straight to the sci-fi channel and the "special interest" section at Best Buy. I honestly found Equilibrium more entertaining, and how you can say that Wanted was entertaining is beyond me.

To each their own...

Posted by: Kris at June 4, 2009 11:09 PM





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