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The Fat Guy, Cute Girlfriend Myth is Not a Myth

By Dustin Rowles | Posted Under Seriously Random Lists | Comments (84)



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One of the most frequent complaints on Pajiba is the bizarre sitcom convention where overweight men often end up with wives who would never date them. One of the second most frequent complaints on Pajiba is people complaining about people complaining about overweight actors who end up with wives who would never date them.

So, to celebrate the fact that Sarah Silverman will appear nude in Sarah Polley’s next film, and to dispel the myth about the impossibility of attractive women ending up with schlubs, I’m here to prove you all wrong. Indeed: If you’re wealthy and famous enough, overweight actors can date women out of their league. So, let’s put that myth to rest, once and for all.

Here’s proof:

Phillip Seymour Hoffman and Mimi O’Donnell

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Jimmy Kimmel and Sarah Silverman

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Kevin James and Steffiana James

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Jack Black and Tanya Haden

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Jonah Hill and Lovely Young Woman Named Danielle

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Comments

So basically the take home message is Kevin James doesn't need our goddamn pity?

Check.

Posted by: Ian at September 20, 2010 11:35 AM

Did you just call Sarah Silverman hot? Are you seri-- you know what, no. No more words. Only vomit and loathing.

Posted by: Patty O'Green at September 20, 2010 11:39 AM

Do I have to talk about the "fat guys" in films who are slacker stoners like Seth Rogen and the "fat guys" on this list who are, ummm, quit successful and why that might make a difference to a certain TYPE of "cute" girl.

P.S. Sarah Silverman, while uber hot in the bod, will always and forever remind me of a horse. I hear neigh-ing when she talks.

Posted by: coveredinbees at September 20, 2010 11:40 AM

Awww, my lobster and i have the same (dis)taste in women!

Posted by: coveredinbees at September 20, 2010 11:42 AM

It's important to keep in mind that these fat guys are all famous with money. How frequent is this in everyday life though?

Posted by: Katie at September 20, 2010 11:48 AM

Wow, it didn't take long to get to the Silverman bashing, did it?

Posted by: LowSlash at September 20, 2010 11:49 AM

Will there be a companion list of Hideous Rockstars and Gorgeous Wives in furtherance of your point Dustin?

Posted by: Mrs. Julien at September 20, 2010 11:56 AM

I had a dream a few years back, right when Sarah Silverman's TV show on Comdey Central started, where Sarah and I kept making out and eventually "got it on."

It was totally random. I never watched the show, so I guess all those ads during the "Daily Show" and "Colbert Report" had an effect, just not the desired one.

Posted by: Forbiddendonut at September 20, 2010 12:02 PM

I'm guessing that the line "He makes me laugh" get's used a lot by some of those women in combination with, "and he's got money and is successful and has a twelve inch trouser trout."

Posted by: admin at September 20, 2010 12:06 PM

While Sarah Silverman can look very cute and no doubt has a fantastic body, something tells me it has more hair on it than the floor at Great Clips.

This entire thread was pointless. I mean, no shit? Rich and famous guys can find "love" with cute girls?!? Why the fuck didn't I think of that. Wait a sec, is this why rock stars get so much tail when they go on tour?

Posted by: EJ at September 20, 2010 12:07 PM

I think we're missing a point here, which is that the surprise at the pairings doesn't necessarily come from the fact that these guys (and by that I mean their characters) are fat, or ugly. No, it's the fact that most of them are just idiot losers with no prospects and no future, and they're paired up with gorgeous, smart, successful women. I'm not saying it doesn't happen in real life, but...come on. In what world would Seth Rogen's character in Knocked Up get Katherine Heigl, or Jack Black get anyone, or Jim Belushi's every character get a hot woman to be with them?

It's a problem with the characters, not just that these guys are fat. Take Kevin James in say, Hitch. Yeah, he looks like Kevin James, but he was charming and funny and completely likable. That was believable. But don't try to make me believe that his character in King of Queens could get a Leah Remini.

Posted by: figgy at September 20, 2010 12:07 PM

As an overweight schlub myself, I can attest to the truth of this. Mrs. myjetski, as the most recent example, is a fine, fine specimen of femininity. Waaay out of my league. I think it's because I'm funny and look like a picture of your dad from the 70s. However it happens, I'm all for it.

Also, personality-wise, Leah Remini in KoQ is no catch. Of course he could get her. Let's remember, though, she's probably bangin' Ferringno on the side. Guilty pleasure, that show.

Please don't hit me.

Posted by: myjetski at September 20, 2010 12:14 PM

That was a particularly impressive display of invective EJ.

Posted by: Mrs. Julien at September 20, 2010 12:15 PM

I've seen this go both ways in real life couples, where either the man or the woman is much better looking than their partner. Some people may not be very good looking but just have charisma. Does it happen all the time? No, but it does happen with or without fame and money.

Posted by: Michin70 at September 20, 2010 12:18 PM

Far be it from me to judge someone based SOLELY on appearance, but my very first instinct upon seeing that photo of Kevin James's wife?

GOLDDIGGER.

Her wikipedia page does nothing to change my mind, either. Clicky my name to see for yourself.

Posted by: MelBivDevoe at September 20, 2010 12:24 PM

Don't care...,
Next!

Posted by: Sly D. at September 20, 2010 12:28 PM

To Michin's point, I think a more challenging thread would be couples where the wife is less attractive then the husband. Bonus points for a celebrity couple.

Posted by: samantha t at September 20, 2010 12:30 PM

Clive Owen

Posted by: Mrs. Julien at September 20, 2010 12:33 PM

and Mrs. Owen

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2402392832/nm0654110

Boo ya!

It just makes him hotter, doesn't it?

Posted by: Mrs. Julien at September 20, 2010 12:35 PM

Sometimes money trumps fat, ya know?

Posted by: ceejeemcbeegee at September 20, 2010 12:36 PM

couples where the wife is less attractive then the husband.

Cause that won't start any fights...

Posted by: Jay at September 20, 2010 12:37 PM

I would like to thank the naysayers for reminding me that women are only interested in a man for his money and/or status, and that his personality has no impact on his level of attractiveness. For indeed, how could a woman who has spent THAT much time getting pretty (obviously, their cheif concern in life) possibly be interested in any of these men were it not for their fame and fortune? For a moment there, I nearly forgot that women are incapable of making decisions that aren't based on shopping.

Now you'll excuse me; I have to continue working in order to make 'dat money so I can keep my ridiculously-shallow wife happy.

Posted by: superasente at September 20, 2010 12:38 PM

Isn't there enough shallow to go around on this one?

Posted by: Mrs. Julien at September 20, 2010 12:41 PM

I call shenanigans.

Give me a list that consists of people who don't spend time on the red carpet in front of hundreds of photographers.

By the way how many relationships has each of those fat "schlubs" been in before?

Posted by: John W at September 20, 2010 12:50 PM

I don't think this is a fame or money thing. To paraphrase Harvey Fierstein from Torch Song Trilogy:
An ugly person who goes after a pretty person gets nothing but trouble, but a pretty person who goes after an ugly person at least gets cab fare.

I'm not by any means a stunner but I tend more towards the average guy with the sense of humor over the adonis who's frankly better at a distance. Christian Bale said that to get into really great shape he has to get narcissistic. In my experience, narcissists are really only fun in small doses.

Posted by: king at September 20, 2010 12:52 PM

Rereading I realize that's contradictory. I meant: you might generally be treated better and have more fun with a person who's had to be more than just a pretty face.

Posted by: king at September 20, 2010 12:55 PM

To Michin's point, I think a more challenging thread would be couples where the wife is less attractive then the husband. Bonus points for a celebrity couple.

Posted by: samantha t at September 20, 2010 12:30 PM
---
Andre Agassi/Steffi Graf

Posted by: , at September 20, 2010 1:05 PM

And ... dare I go there? I dare:

Brad Pitt/Angelina Jolie

At least Brad doesn't make you want to send him a CARE package.

Posted by: , at September 20, 2010 1:06 PM

Celebrity couples where the wife is less attractive than the husband:

1. Clive Owen
2. Hugh Jackman
3. Aaron Johnson
4. Elton John

Posted by: BWeaves at September 20, 2010 1:15 PM

Mrs. Julien, I'm wondering if they married before Clive's nosejob (see the Bourne Identity).

Posted by: EJ at September 20, 2010 1:16 PM

When I hear the word "shenanigans" as in John W's post, I can hear a lugubrious (perhaps even oleaginous) man threatening "If there are any more of these shenanigans..." in my head. The shenanigans part is pronounced very clearly and I keep wanting to say vampires are involved. It's making me crazy. Can someone help? IMDb failed me.

Posted by: Mrs. Julien at September 20, 2010 1:23 PM

I went through a phase when I would watch those "Two ton man" TV shows, and there was one about a young man somewhere in Latin America who weighed about a ton. A prettyish, woman with a child wanted to marry him and take care of him. Everyone was aghast that she wanted to marry him. He was thrilled, and started loosing weight. He said he couldn't wait until they could have children together and she made a yucky face. I got the distinct impression that she just liked taking care of someone and talking to someone, but that she didn't ever want to have sex again or have a man dominate her. If the fat man ever lost enough weight to even find his penis, I bet she'd leave him instantly.

Now, granted, this is whole different level of fat guy with cute girl, but it seemed that on all those "Two ton man" TV shows, the marriages were never consumated, and the wives seemed to be enablers. I just cannot get into that mindset.

And Kevin James' real wife is really hotter than Winona Ryder? Yeah, golddigger.

Posted by: BWeaves at September 20, 2010 1:23 PM

Also a myth: that 20-somethings bang/marry really old dudes for their money. A lie. They totally think that old dudes are sophisticated and distinguished and really know how to please a woman because of, like, their wisdom and stuff. Their hot, hot wisdom that absolutely makes up for their thinning hair, age spots, pot bellies and old man testicles.

Posted by: Slash at September 20, 2010 1:25 PM

BWeaves - Hugh Jackman definitely.

Posted by: Mrs. Julien at September 20, 2010 1:25 PM

Hugh Jackman and his wife. She's not famous, so I guess that doesn't really count as a celebrity couple, but there's my contribution to the unattractive lady/attractive guy pairing.

And I think figgy nailed it - the disbelief doesn't come from the fact that the guys/characters are chubby or unattractive - more that they are often rude and boorish, with little to no redeeming qualities, yet some how able to end up in relationships with gorgeous women with at least a modicum of success or intelligence. It's more insulting to those women, to assume that they would just be ok with dating a jerk and never seem to notice.

Posted by: ninetwenteetoo at September 20, 2010 1:26 PM

She's a famous actress in Australia and more famous than him when they met.

Posted by: Mrs. Julien at September 20, 2010 1:27 PM

Mrs. Julien -- Super Troopers.

"I'm going to pistol-whip the next person who says Shenanigans!"
"Hey, Favre - what's that silly restaurant you like with all the shit on the walls?"
"What, Shenanigans? You mean Shenanigans, right?"
"Oooooohhhh..." [holds out gun]

Posted by: superasente at September 20, 2010 1:28 PM

Dunno - most of them look pretty normal to me, except, of course, Kevin James & his wife.

Is the question broken down further to "average weight" woman & "over weight" man?

or is it "outrageously hot woman" with "rich, schlubby probably humorous guy"

Posted by: IneptFake at September 20, 2010 1:30 PM

Quick observation regarding all of the examples you gave (except Kevin James' wife and all that can be said about that is Holy What The Fuck?!?!): while all those women are astoundingly attractive and definitely the quote-unquote "prettier" one of the couple, they look like someone you might actually meet in real life. A pretty hot everyday someone, but a everyday someone nonetheless. As a female, I can see why they are probably dating those guys.

It really only grates on me when the sitcom/romcom combo is the equivalent of Bar Refaeli dating Clint Howard. Now THAT, I hate with the fire of a thousand suns.

P.S. I liked Jack Black better when he was dating Laura Kightlinger.

Posted by: AngelheadHipster at September 20, 2010 1:30 PM

Having said all that, let's face it, men have never had to be AS attractive as women to get laid. It certainly helps to be attractive, but it's not a deal breaker, if you have other things that are attractive to women (a nice car, ie, money).

Women have been taught (well, most of them, anyway) to value earning potential over looks. And fiction has taught them to value intangible qualities like "manliness" over almost everything else. So when they're looking for someone to bang, they go for the hot assholish guys. When they're looking to marry and reproduce, they settle for the shlumps. Then they start banging the hot guy at work or some dude at their gym, etc.

It's not that there are no exceptions, I'm sure there are tons of non-Hollywood pairings where the wife is pretty hot and the husband is a fat load. I can't think of any off the top of my head, most of the real-world couples I know are either both reasonably attractive or both not so attractive.

Posted by: Slash at September 20, 2010 1:34 PM

OK, I just watched Sweet Home Alabama woman on the Pajiba Love thread, and suddenly these pairings make more sense.

Must go douche brain now.

Posted by: BWeaves at September 20, 2010 1:45 PM

Celebrity couples where the wife is less attractive than the husband:

Whats his name and Tori Spelling.
Jon Hamm and the chick who played Jessica Stein
Ellen deGeneres and Portia DeRossi

Posted by: PaddyDog at September 20, 2010 1:47 PM

Superasente - Thank you for trying, but that's not it. I haven't seen Super
Troopers and it was something like "and if we have any more of these (slightest
pause) shenanigans..." and the person was relishing saying it like a threat. I
just did an impression of it on the phone for Mr. Julien and while it amused him,
he couldn't help.

Posted by: Mrs. Julien at September 20, 2010 1:49 PM

I’m going to assume that “famous people” and “ridiculously good-looking people” both, as groups, get tired of being treated like trophies. Everyone wants to be appreciated as humans with layers. So if a Normal meets a Somebody and treats them like an Anybody, I imagine it is a relief. Plus, funny is sexy as hell.

But there is no excuse for Sarah Silverman. Unless you sew her mouth shut.

Posted by: Patty O'Green at September 20, 2010 2:09 PM

Adding to the list of celebrity couples with a more attractive husband/less attractive wife:

Taye Diggs and Idina Menzel

Posted by: Parker at September 20, 2010 2:11 PM

Mrs. Julien-

Was it George Plimpton's erudite therapist character in GOOD WILL HUNTING? "No more...shenanigans, no more tomfoolery, no more ballyhoo." Vampires are not involved but he does say "shenanigans" with an inordinate amount of relish.

Posted by: AngelheadHipster at September 20, 2010 2:13 PM

So all I have to do is become a movie star. Alright.

Posted by: Lucas at September 20, 2010 2:18 PM

I'm sure being rich and famous had nothing to do with it.

Posted by: Nitty at September 20, 2010 2:20 PM

@AngelheadHipster

No, but thank you so much for trying.

It's a really smarmy, plummy accent and the word itself is drawn out and with a
definite promise of harm.

You just know I'm going to yell it out at 3 am.

Posted by: Mrs. Julien at September 20, 2010 2:21 PM

I’ve been overweight my entire life and I’ve never had a problem with attracting and dating cute women despite my boorish behavior here at pajiba. I’d tell any man that it’s basically not up to you so stop stressing, either a woman is looking for substance or style. I don’t care if a guy has six pack abs, a nine inch cock, and a boat load of money, eventually if the guy is an asshole the woman will get tired of him. Here are some of my tips when it comes to dating cute women.


Pookie’s tips

1. Never talk about sex unless she brings it up in a conversation, and if she does, quickly change the conversation.

2. Before you go on a date with a cute woman, jerk off, because that will get that horny look out of your eyes.

3. Speak softly and quietly because that will force her to pay attention to what you are saying.

4. If you are going to the movies, say to her you can pick this one and I’ll pick the next one. Trust me she will laugh and think you have a sense of humor.

5. Never, never, never underestimate the power of sarcasm.

6. Under no circumstance will you allow her to pick up the tab.

Posted by: Pookie at September 20, 2010 2:22 PM

A Simon Callow kind of voice, but not actually Simon Callow.

Posted by: Mrs. Julien at September 20, 2010 2:23 PM

You just know I'm going to yell it out at 3 am.

Please post it if it does pop into your head.
It is now driving me insane that I can't think of it, either.

Posted by: Rykker at September 20, 2010 2:46 PM

I do what I can.

Posted by: Mrs. Julien at September 20, 2010 2:57 PM

Agree with B Weaves:

Celebrity couples where the wife is less attractive than the husband:

1. Clive Owen
2. Hugh Jackman
3. Aaron Johnson
4. Elton John

and two more

Jeremy Northam
Pierce Brosnan

Posted by: Meenama at September 20, 2010 3:01 PM

I think Mr. Snuggie and I are about the same on the level of attractiveness, face-wise. But at different times in our 20 years together, we've been:

both thinner

me thinner, him fatter

both fatter

me fatter, him thinner

and the only one I HATE is that last one. Fortunately right now we're both on the tubby side. YAY!

But I hate it when we look like Jack Sprat and his wife.

Anyway, I think the common demoninator up there is that the guys are chubby/fat and there are women who like that, so maybe they're just women who like 'em meaty. I do!

Posted by: Snuggiepants at September 20, 2010 3:03 PM

T.I. and his wife "Tiny."

http://newshopper.sulekha.com/t-i-tameka-cottlegave_photo_386969.htm

The term "fugly as fuck" springs to mind.

Posted by: Kballs at September 20, 2010 3:17 PM

It's too bad we can't hop in the way back machine and see how these fellows might fare if their occupations matched what they are in the movies they've been in:

Hoffman: Tornado chaser
James: Mall cop
Hill: Hotel staff
Black: record store clerk
Kimmel: smug know it all...oh wait...

Posted by: John W at September 20, 2010 3:18 PM

@Kballs: You were looking at her face? I bet he doesn't.

Posted by: FabMax at September 20, 2010 3:32 PM

RE Parker "Adding to the list of celebrity couples with a more attractive husband/less attractive wife:
Taye Diggs and Idina Menzel"

Taye is hot, but how is Idina less attractive? She's freaking gorgeous...

Posted by: Slash at September 20, 2010 3:35 PM

Show me a list that consists of Fat regular guys that have hot chicks.
Not fat famous guys that have money.

You're telling me Kevin James would land that babe if he were a middle class Office manager??

The answer is hell no.

Posted by: junierizzle at September 20, 2010 3:38 PM

now find me a hot man dating a fat/plain girl. THAT'S the real myth.

Posted by: Morgan at September 20, 2010 3:47 PM

OK, I'm going to say what many guys say when they see an ugly chubby chick with a handsome dude:

Jack Black must give a great blowjob.

Posted by: , at September 20, 2010 4:02 PM

@Slash

Idinia's not unattractive, I just think that Taye is a beautiful, beautiful man...

Maybe I'm alone on that one!

Posted by: Parker at September 20, 2010 4:33 PM

We have this cheesy entertainer/magician over here in the UK called Paul Daniels, who is slightly over 5' tall, has a squeaky voice, bears a startling resemblence to a wizened gnome, and is at least 25 years older than his wife, Debbie McGee, who was at one time his "glamorous assistant". She was once interviewed on a (spoof) talk show and the first question the hostess asked her was, "So, Debbie, what first attracted you to millionaire Paul Daniels?"

Pictures like those above make me think of that question.

Posted by: lingli at September 20, 2010 4:40 PM

Is Paul Daniels still alive? He looked like he was pushing 50 when I was a child so that would put him in his 90s now. I never could understand what was supposed to be entertaining about him.

Posted by: PaddyDog at September 20, 2010 4:44 PM

I have known men and women who are thickset who have hot partners. It's largely a matter of charm and confidence on the part of the burlier person, but also a matter of their partner's taste. As hard as it is for some people to believe, tastes vary, and some folks like rounder body types.

I would also posit that almost no guy who was a schlub and an unremitting dick all the time would hold onto a hot girl for very long, no matter how cute he was. Then again, I could be totally wrong. Some folks like to be abused.

So if a Normal meets a Somebody and treats them like an Anybody, I imagine it is a relief.

Yep. I told a super-hot guy he was being a stupid jerk. He was stunned, but agreed and cut it out. We hung out for a few days before I found out he was Somebody. He said it was nice to be just him for a while.

Posted by: Reba at September 20, 2010 5:40 PM

At the risk of being conceited, I am pretty...but my husband is prettier. He's "Who the hell is that dude?" good-looking. We're all run-down from kids and everything and I forget how good-looking he is. It's nice to be reminded.

Posted by: samantha t at September 20, 2010 6:14 PM

Listen, my wife is hot, I mean supermodel hot, and I just have to say ...

Actually nothing. I have nothing to add to the discussion. I just wanted to boast about my wife.

Posted by: Neodiogenes at September 20, 2010 6:43 PM

The only one of the examples you used that actually qualifies is Kevin James and his hot ass wife.
Besides that, all the other couples are around the same level as each other.

Posted by: supafly at September 20, 2010 8:56 PM

I always thought Phillip Seymour Hoffman was gay...

Look, using a list like this is of course going to throw into doubt the issue of money, fame and success. Dustin even says it in his write up.

But I can look at plenty of examples out of my real life that prove highly attractive women can and do fall for fat dudes. Just like women can be "pretty fat" guys can be "handsome fat". Id certainly say Mr Hoffman falls in that category. Even Mr James. Furthermore, Mr Black and Mr Hill are both interesting to look at and not unattractive.

Having a little extra heft (as none of these men are grossly obese) isnt a negative factor in attractiveness.

Posted by: Lennon at September 20, 2010 11:14 PM

Some women are just not bothered by extra weight. I have a very attractive slender BRILLIANT friend who has dated men that were VERY large, and WHO they were was just far more important to her than what they looked like. I personally feel that being morbidly obese is a turn off, but hey, I am no supermodel either. At the end of the day, you better be attracted to what is between the ears, because EVERYTHING else is likely to change.

Posted by: Lindsey with an 'e' at September 20, 2010 11:56 PM

I think the issue in movies is not that the guy is unattractive, it's that he's a total loser and not even a particularly nice person + unattractive. These guys have nada going for them, yet still get the hottie with the world at her feet. Hot girls date ugly guys in real life, but they don't date ugly guys whose only belongings are some pot and a guitar they can't play.

Posted by: Kate at September 21, 2010 2:27 AM

You just know I'm going to yell it out at 3 am.

Hey, Hey Mrs. J.
It's after 3 A
Did you think of that thing
t'was elusive yesterday?

Posted by: Rykker at September 21, 2010 3:33 AM

Do we live in a fucking attractiveness feudal system? How dare anyone marry or have sex above what we arbitrarily deem to be your lowly position in society! If you do, there must ultimately be another reason, be it money, fame, or the gift of really nice shoes.


Posted by: branded at September 21, 2010 9:10 AM

I was expecting pics of plumbers and construction workers with cute wives... this is just celebs.
Hell celebs can get cute women at any age, body size or level of attractiveness.

Posted by: logan at September 21, 2010 9:23 AM

I was expecting pics of plumbers and construction workers with cute wives... this is just celebs.
Hell celebs can get cute women at any age, body size or level of attractiveness.

Posted by: logan at September 21, 2010 9:29 AM

Rykker, my darling, my dear,
I'd whisper the name in your ear,
If the needed title
Wasn't such a gobshitle
And refusing to make itself clear.

Posted by: Mrs. Skipper at September 21, 2010 10:02 AM

Mrs. Julien, I can hear that, too. Was it Roddy McDowall in "Fright Night"?

Posted by: ALR at September 21, 2010 10:31 AM

I think it was more, wait for it, effete, than Roddy McDowall and also more
recently than his passing.

And I haven't seen Fright Night; I just wanted to use effete in a sentence. This
conundrum has been wonderful for my vocabulary usage.

The pronunciation of "shenanigans" is very arch. It must have been campy.

Thank you for the suggestion.

Posted by: Mrs. Julien at September 21, 2010 2:41 PM

Your first line made me laugh out loud, madam. The specifications of "shenanigans", "arch" and "campy" have now brought Bill Nighy's character in "Underworld" movies to mind.

See "Fright Night" sometime. It's campy 80s run and Chris Sarandon is delicious.

Posted by: ALR at September 21, 2010 5:11 PM

"Run" should be "fun", curse it.

Posted by: ALR at September 21, 2010 5:12 PM

Mrs. Julien - Richard Roxborough as the Duke in Moulin Rouge.

"And if there are any shenanigans...my manservant, Warner will deal with it in the only way you underworld show folk understand..."

Am I right? I'm right, right?

Posted by: bizzle at September 21, 2010 8:16 PM

WOW
Kevin James has a beautiful wife and terrible movies...that's not fair

Posted by: james at September 23, 2010 2:02 PM

Jack Black could get anyone with that moustache

Posted by: Denta at December 4, 2010 1:33 PM