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2001 is a load of horse-shit. If I wanted to watch 15 minutes of an object docking to classical music, I'd play Beethoven and ask my grandparents to get down to business in front of me.

I am have no strong feelings about any of these movies. But, if you talk bad about my Princess Bride I will cut you!

I don't like any of Kubrick's films. The Shining is the only one I'll half watch without making too many noises and acting bored.

I've only SEEN two of the movies on this list. And while I liked them, I wouldn't leap to defend them.

Reason I haven't seen any of the other movies: I very strongly doubt I would like them. And then if I, in fact, didn't like them, people might say, "You didn't like X? Yer a fukkin' moron."

Eh.

Dustin, I'm really sorry to burst your bubble here but I don't think anybody gives a damn about Atonement. 2001: The Space Odyssey - sure; There Will Bee Blood - ok, whatever. But Atonement The Movie? I don't think so. Not even The Book, really. Though the book I did manage to get through till the end.

Sorry no emotional responses to that list.
It's about 1/3 classic, 1/3 boring and 1/3 good.

Halfway through The Hours, Mr. Julien offered to sacrifice himself by running at the screen and thus the brick wall behind it. Pretentious twaddle.

The English Patient - I watched it again recently. Vile selfish characters and not in a good way.

@Samantha

I've got your back. I HATED the Dark Knight.

YES! Lost In Translation is a terrible, BORING, artsy-fartsy film. Anyone who defends this film that passionately needs to get a life. Seriously, get a life.

On the other hand, while I completely understand people not liking There Will Be Blood (though it's a brilliant film, it is very long)...the hate people have for No Country For Old Men is confusing to me. That film accomplishes what so few can (compelling story, brilliant acting, fantastic action, smart script, etc.) without even having a SCORE!

Also, though I've never seen it, Atonement sucks. I say that just to cause trouble.

Yeah, I don't get why Atonement is on here, either. Or, The Hours. Or, The New World. They're decent films and they were pretty good for the years they came out, but what else is there to say about them other than "meh" coupled with a shrug?

Though, I will have to agree that if you don't like Princess Bride but you love The Boondock Saints, you really ought to have your eyeballs eaten out of your skull by Nancy Grace.

I have seen most on this list and I like them, but....Ok as a Japanese I had problem with Lost in Translation, as in these people really didn't get Japan. And kinda acted snooty about it too. They did not really interact with Japanese people or culture in no more than seeing entertainment or aesthetic value in them. That bothered me a lot. I liked the story but essentially, I kinda hated the characters.

But then again, I can't really hate on Scarlet Johanson's perfect ass on screen. Though it was extremely uncomfortable as I was watching it with my then girlfriend and my mother who was visiting me.

Actually, and I think this might be the case with a lot of people here, it's not so much about why you don't like a movie so much as when you do like a movie. I'm more likely to judge you then. Can't help it.

Some of these I haven't seen yet (some of them, I don't plan to), but I can't make it through The Hours. I really enjoyed the book, but every time I tried to get through the movie, I was bored. Don't know why that is.

The Dark Knight. I will unleash the worst part of my personality on you for not liking The Dark Knight. Everything else is worthy of intelligent discourse, but not liking The Dark Knight is like...it's like...

...Squatan, Gray Uzi Totin' Satan Squid, mortal enemy to Godtopus, doesn't like The Dark Knight. That's all you need to know.

Oh, and Lost In Translation is easily one of the most mundane, boring movies ever filmed. It's awful.

Posted by: superasente at July 28, 2010 2:15 PM

This is exactly how I feel about 2001, right here.

i love the english patient, lost in translation, and the warriors but i can understand why others don't like them. and, to be contrary, i dont understand why people would like atonement or the hours...garbage

We had an Audrey Hepburn film festival at school on Valentine's Day one year. I got stood up at "Breakfast At Tiffany's". I guess I didn't enjoy it as much as might have been possible.

It may not be a great movie, but Breakfast at Tiffany's is perfectly enjoyable.

(wait for it)

Except for the horribly annoying and racist Japanese neighbor character, played as ethnically insulting as possible by Mickey Rourke. What the #$@$ were they thinking on that part?

I don't even get the criteria for this list.

Breakfast at Tiffany's? Seriously? Its the people who like the movie that are on the defensive -- if you even so much as mention the film's name you are required to denounce Mickey Rooney's racist performance within fifteen seconds in polite company (see? just like I did).

As for the Hours, I'll denounce what a dreary piece of pretentious navel gazing shit that movie was myself -- and I'll bet I get at least one reader echoing my response. And 2001? That's one hell of a polarizing movie -- love it myself, but it is hardly without flaws, pacing foremost among them.

You wanna piss off movie buffs? Bag on "Dr Strangelove." Or "Citizen Caine", "The Godfather", "Chinatown". Or anything from Kurasawa. Or, hell, bag on "Memento". You'll be in the witness protection program in no time. But these movies, aside from "There Will Be Blood" (which I haven't seen, but has a pretty devoted following), he, not so much.

Atonement & The English Patient are in the same category as Titanic. Stupid Romantic Slop.

I've seen two of these.

Actually, just The Warriors. Twice.

Cram it. The rest just don't interest me. Here's a list of other shit I don't like/haven't seen/don't care about that seem to have a frothy, rabid rabidness about them:

01. That Doogie Howser kid - I just don't get it.
02. How I Met Your Mother - I don't give a shit.
03. Firefly/Serenity - Ditto.
04. Battlestar Galactica - See above.
05. British humor = Vomit
06. The Decemberists = Snore
07. Heigl hate - Like Doogie, I just don't get it.
08. Betty White = Cool, I guess. National treasure? Doubtful.
09. Banana bread - It's bread. Bread that tastes like a banana. Nothing more.
10. Mad Men, Lost, 24, The Wire, Tim & Eric (insert rest of title here), Buffy/Angel

You like these things? Fanfuckintastic. Just do me a favor and try not to get all bugshit retardipated when I tell you I don't think they're the fucking bee's knees, dig?

There Will Be Blood rules all.

Say otherwise? Don't worry. I won't cut you. But I do have a bowling pin with your name on it.

Walking out of the theater after No Country For Old Men on opening weekend I overheard a few people from the packed venue grousing about it. They thought it was boring, they didn't like the ending, etc. I almost jumped down the throats of these complete strangers, and I only had a few minutes to process the film at that point.

The English Patient and Atonement are so overrated. Go ahead and cut me for that.

Mrs. Julien >> Yeah, Lawrence of Arabia came to my mind too. I presume Dustin still hasn't seen it based on his previous statement that he will never watch it. Thus, it can't be properly placed on this list.

I know the general consensus on this site, but the status quo of planet Earth usually gets very, very, very angry when I spit venom about Crash.

I was almost kicked out of a class in college when the teacher decided to use Crash as a lesson in race relations in our country. The rest of the class turned on me with pitchforks and torches when I called the movie bullshit, and hamfisted bullshit to make people feel better about their supposed open minded lives.

They all agreed that the characters in the movie were perfect reflections of real world folk that they've all encountered, and it was an accurate portrayal of American culture's rampant overt racism.

Apparently I'm a stubborn, snobbish, racist and the movie was over my head...

Kaleena, Dark Knight is a comic book film trying to rise above its station. Never a good idea. No grounds for hate, but a meh is warranted.

09. Banana bread - It's bread. Bread that tastes like a banana. Nothing more.

Skittimus Maximus, prepare to die.

The Hours: I liked it, didn't LOVE it, certainly not about to get ito a flame war with anyone over it.

The Warriors: Haven't seen it.

The English Patient: I fondly refer to it as The Endless Patient, but secretly (secret's out, now) adore it and will always watch it, given the chance. (It IS endless, though.)

The New World: Haven't seen it. Probably will, one day... it IS Terence Malick, after all... even though that dear Irish lad does tend to be overly earnest when given epics in which to labour.

Atonement: Again, I like it, don't love it -- though that scene in the library is to DIE.

No Country for Old Men: GHASTLY. Best Picture my ASS. Travesty of justice that this won over There Will Be Blood. And Best Supporting Actor? Excuse me, but most of the acting was done by his FEET. Actually, his BOOTS. Were they actually even HIS feet in those boots?

Breakfast at Tiffanny's: Lovely. Adorable. ALWAYS watchable. Classic. Perfect, except for the gruesome mistake of Mickey Rooney's "Chinaman." Ugh.

There Will Be Blood: Brilliant. Fabulous. The music -- this is just one of those movies whose score, spare and GLASSIAN though it is (and I LOATHE Glass, ordinarily), is exquisite and absolutely necessary. And ought to have won, goddamnit.

2001: A Space Odyssey: Astonishing. Kubrickian wonderland; I think, ranks 5th best in his oeuvre -- after Full Metal Jacket, Dr. Strangelove, A Clockwork Orange, Paths of Glory and Barry Lyndon. Never fails to piss me off that Kubrick never won a Best Director Oscar, let alone a Best Picture. Just further proof that the Academy of Motion Picture Arts & Sciences is utter fucking bullshit.

Lost in Translation: A grotesque masterwork of phantasmagorical fuckuperry. WHAT a load of CRAP. Give this to that little sprite of a nothing director: she managed to fool a WHOLE lot of people into thinking she'd written a SCRIPT and made a MOVIE.

As if anyone cares:

"The Hours" was tedious, but I get how it can resonate with women. And my soul was less bored waiting in the infinite darkness for the birth of my body than I was while watching "The English Patient."

"There Will Be Blood" and "No Country For Old Men" have one tremendous acting performance each, so they've got that going for them.

"Breakfast at Tiffany's" is like a time warp and completely and utterly belongs to another generation. There are many movies like that for me ("Bringing Up Baby" and "Gone With The Wind" come to mind) that I can't even form a defensible opinion about. I think that makes me dense.

"2001" is a favorite of mine but I get why people hate it: They're turd burglars.

"Lost in Translation" is charming and Billy is spectacular.

And as for "The Warriors," Dustin already has one black eye, if you catch my drift, so he'll be watching what he says about it in the future.

I stopped 2001 halfway through. I think it was halfway. It was hard to tell; it was after some boring part with a computer which was preceded by some boring part with some monkeys ogling a black box. Now, stopping a movie may not seem severe to most people, but I finished EVERYTHING I start. I even finished reading the Twilight saga. The fact that I was able to overcome this completion compulsion should tell you how much the movie blew goat balls.

I loathed There Will Be Blood too. But at least that I was able to finish.

I also don’t love The Dark Knight. Look, it’s a decent movie. Beautiful, very well acted, yadda yadda. But it’s too fucking long. If it was 30 minutes shorter I probably would like it much more. But it’s still inferior to Batman Begins. There. I said it. Bring it bitches. I ain't scared of you.

I didn't like the Dark Knight. It got dull. If Batman had just killed the Joker the first time he had a chance (or the second, or third), everything would have ended sooner and it would have been more entertaining. It was like watching Moulin Rouge or Titanic. Just die already! (the characters, I mean. that was an awkward thing to write for that movie...)

yocean: I'm not Japanese (never been to Japan, either) but that's a big part of why I hated that movie. It was just horrible to the culture, and the characters were horrible, and everything was horrible.

Darth: I didn't hate There Will be Blood, I just hated the "music". It gave me a headache so bad that I can barely remember the rest of the film. All I remember is that Daniel-Day Lewis freaked me the hell out and I liked it.

I like some of these movies. I don't like others. And as for the ones I haven't seen (half of them), I have no real interest in. My favorite of the bunch is probably "The Warriors" and then "No Country for Old Men."

I am sorry, other than "The Warriors", none of these movies strikes a particular chord with me.

I'd probably not like "The New World", as I am not a big Terrence Malik fan. "Thin Red Line" was awful. One of my more painful movie going experiences.

Dustin,
Considering the passion people have for "The Big Lebowski," it definitely belonged on this list. You fucking bastard.

I'm pretty sure I explained my reasons for hating the Dark Knight during my anti-Seven tiradette. Not that I expect anyone to remember, but I don't feel like a typing it again and, honestly, how interested are you?

10. The Hours - pretentious twaddle

9. Warriors - I haven't seen it

8. English Patient - see comment re: The Hours

7. New World - I haven't seen it. I understand that doing so will require me to finally learn how to spell langourous so I can describe the pacing.

6. Atonement - see comment re: The English Patient

5. No Country for Old Men - Don't get it.

4. Breakfast at Tiffany's - Very good and Mr. Julien waxes rhapsodic about it whenever we watch. Mostly it's hard to get past the Mickey Rooney stuff. Then you hum Moon River for about a week.

3. There Will Be Blood - Couldn't get through it.

2. 2001 - Incredibly fascinating, but does not require repeat viewings.

1. Lost in Translation - I liked it, but feel no need to risk prison in its defense.

GinKirk & ERM: I agree with you on the others, but please please pleeasse leave the Titanic out of this!

@PaddyDog

And Pat O'Brien is always that cop.

Oh, yes. I have dared to mention that I found Lost in Translation insufferably boring, and I feared for my life afterwards.

Okay, I told you about Lost in Translation (here's where I rally for it). The whole point of the movie (at least from my perspective) was the escapism that Bill and Scarlett wanted. They were in a foreign country with a different language, a different culture, and were at the point where they were either bored or not happy with their prospective lives, even for a few days. They met, they found each other, had chemistry, and that was it. They didn't NEED to run away together or give each other their phone number because it was good enough to know that they could look back on that trip and remember how each of them impacted each other's life.

@Figgy

What about people who refuse to see Lawrence of Arabia?

It's Lawrence of fucking Arabia! It's like refusing to see
The Godfather or Raging Bull.

@PaddyDog
I am of Irish heritage as well. Irish "racism" was worse than people realize. I have an honest-to-goodness antique sign that reads: Help Wanted, No Irish Need Apply dated Sept. 11, 1918.

What about The Shawshank Redemption? I had a friend say he hated that in mixed company and I feared for his life.

I don't trust that anyone who's saying they hate it - not "it wasn't my thing" or "meh" but actual hate - is saying it for any other reason than to be better than other people who like it.

Which is my usual opinion on people who proudly claim to despise something that is both popular and good.

I love The Hours as a novel, and when paired with Mrs. Dalloway and studied together, it's fucking brilliant beyond words.

But it made a horrible movie.

Also, Lost in Translation, like Marie Antoinette and every other Sofia Coppela movie has me fast-forwarding through at least 20 minutes of the DVD.

I don't mind long, wide-pan shots and understated moments but I swear her directing style is to point the camera, start rolling and go get lunch.

No Country for Old Men is one of my favorite books. I thought the movie was fairly meh. Bardem was great and the film looked good. However, I think Cormac McCarthy’s sparse clever dialogue, while amazing on the page is difficult to bring to the screen. It falls kind of flat when spoken aloud. If anyone could have brought it to life, it would have been the Coen brothers, who have been trafficking in unrealistic dialogue for a long time. A solid effort, but overall I was underwhelmed. Still, I found myself sucked into it when I caught about fifteen minutes of it on TV over the weekend. I’m going to give it another chance.

I get a lot of crap for hating on Fight Club.

Ugh. Lebowski. I liked that movie so much I went to the 2nd annual Lebowskifest in Louisville, KY. I can no longer tolerate that movie. The things I’ve seen cannot be unseen and the things I’ve heard cannot be unheard. I don’t like when people quote movies or TV in everyday dialogue (so it’s been tough reading all the takes on cutting here) and Lebowski is the most frequently quoted movie ever. The experience truly ruined the film for me. It seems like I should be able to get over it but I can’t. Still, the movie should be on the list. The festivals still go on, multiple times a year now.

Dune?

See there's another for my list. I HATED Almost Famous. Loathed it. Hated every single thing about it (except maybe Frances McDormand). And it made me hate Kate Hudson for life.

Scully: I lost a lot of respect for one of my closest friends when she said she hated Batman Begins (she loved Dark Knight). I was actually ANGRY at her because all of her arguments were just fucking stupid. And then I just decided she had shitty taste in movies and I will never listen to her recommendations again.

Oh, and Dustin will never forgive me for not liking Say Anything.

*cue outrage*

Shut up! I can't stand John Cusack!

I know, I have problems. I have a lot of rage when it comes to certain actors. I need therapy, maybe.

this list is really making me think of what movies/tv shows/books out there i would defend to the death or rail against and here it is, i dont care if ya'll dont care

defend to the death: firefly, seinfeld, arrested development, moulin rouge, 100 years of solitude*

i would stab people for liking: crash...that's really about it, i couldn't be bothered over anything else but if you came out of crash thinking it was eye-opening or enlightening, i weep for your future

*cant think of many others and i gotta go now

@smokin, littlejon2001, superasente, kaleena:

I really did hate The Dark Knight, and (I didn't plan this, just happened that this list was posted same day I posted) here's why.

I'd also like to suggest Moon. Don't get me wrong, I loved it. Bare with me. I recommend films to my flate mate all of the time as we have quite similar taste. For reasons that are not clear to me he fucking hated Moon. He provided no good explanation as to why, but moaned about how shit it was for 10 minutes anyway.

Fine.

A few weeks later I recommended a few more films and he said he'd check them out. He then added that I had an almost perfect track record in recommending films. Erm, okay. He said I only fucked up once when I recommended Moon. And it was so shit. It was such rubbish. What a shit film.

Fine. But maybe drop it.

Earlier today I mentioned that I'd watched Waltz With Bashir and that it was amazing. I told him it had upset me more than any film I'd seen recently. He said the last film that upset him was Moon because it was so fucking shit and what a pile of-

I don't really know what happened next and things got very blurry but if anybody can recommend a cost effective method of getting blood stains out of carpets I would really appreciate it.

We need to divide the Pajiba site into two parts:

Those who love Firefly, Buffy, and Battlestar Galactica the rest of us who don't.

For the love of God, I have no desire to watch these things, especially Firefly.

Let....it.....go.

The world would be a much better place without anyone who considers himself a "fanboy" - truly the second worst subculture on Earth, next to wiggers.

ninetwenteetoo:

You didn't like Scarface, The Godfather OR Trainspotting?

(points to door slowly)

Get out. Get out now.

Are you a longtime poster or lurker? I'm so flabbergasted I need to know who you are.

Boondock Saints sent me into a rage of annoyance. People with opinions I actually trusted kept trying to jam it down my throat... going on and on about how FUCKING AWESOME it was. It was not. It was a pile of complete and total shit that had me wanting to stab everyone who made me waste my time with that dreck. I had to completely re-evaluate my sisters intelligence because of her love for this pile.
Also, same for Lost in Translation. After that pretentious shit fest I needed surgery to retrieve my eyeballs from having rolled so far back into my head.

since it received such high acclaim, maybe I just missed the point.

Don't you ever, EVER, think that, about anything.

I feel like Legends of the Fall is rather divisive too. And I tend to judge people who love it. Because clearly it is drivel.

@Skitz: You're on. How soon can you get to western Montana?

@Scorzi: So don't watch Firefly. *shrug* Who cares? I realize those of us who went maybe a little nuts about it made it hard for some folks to stomach. It's cool. We can get over it together. Or not.

I really didn't get Anchorman OR Team America. Didn't find them funny in the least.

Also, one of my favorite things to do EVER is tell Beatles fanatics that the Beatles are overrated, then glory in their horrified, murderous stares. Puts the cherry on my goddamn sundae.

I just thought it was a beaaaaaaaaautiful movie, visually. And I loved all the actors, if not the characters. I also really liked the book, so that might have helped. Granted, it's been a long time since I've seen it, but I don't think I'd change my mind that much.

But I love that you like Shakespeare in Love too. It's pretty, it's goofy, and it's got one of the best screenplays ever.

Also, one of my favorite things to do EVER is tell Beatles fanatics that the Beatles are overrated,

Compared to what? I never thought the music of today could suck so hard that frigging Coldplay sounds like high art.

scorzi - I've been reading for a while and probably commenting for around a year.

I get the most grief for not liking Trainspotting but I just did not like it at all. I can't even really pinpoint why, I just didn't. I don't hate on people who do, I just don't care to ever revisit it.

Scarface - Pacino's accent is awful, the plot is ridiculous, it's totally annoying, and if I want to watch a movie about people getting too involved in drug trafficking I'd rather watch Blow. To me this is the type of movie that I associate with wanna be thug fools. Middle class suburban white kids that want to convince people they are hard, or whatever. I think that actually is what sours me against it more than the actual movie itself.

Godfather - maybe once, long ago, I liked it, but I have now seen it so many times, that I just can't stand it. It just doesn't have rewatchability for me. I just don't find it any more compelling or interesting than other mob/gangster movies, so I think I never really understood why it was hailed as THE BEST mob movie of all time. I'd rather watch Casino or even Goodfellas.

I think There Will Be Blood is one of the best films I've seen. I also enjoy long, slow, meditative films where nothing happens and nothing is learned, so it's right up my alley.

I think you need to be more specific with The New World. There were at least 3 different cuts of that film released during its Oscar eligibility period, to the point that most critics did not see the same print. I loved the version I saw, but I don't think it's the same version most people saw. If nothing else, Q'orianka Kilcher was extraordinary in it.

I love love love 2001 and There Will Be Blood, those of you who don't are simply those who prefer to watch films while metaphorically lobotomized. Brains off, pictures on.

I also hate absolutely everything about Crash, and I got in trouble in a college class for saying so too! (I forget who posted that originally). It's so woefully misguided and dreadful, and yet people treat it like a documentary that contains the revelatory truth that we are all polite racists.

We need to divide the Pajiba site into two parts:
Those who love Firefly, Buffy, and Battlestar Galactica the rest of us who don't.
For the love of God, I have no desire to watch these things, especially Firefly.
Let....it.....go.

Won't work very well for those of us who love BSG but loathe all things Whedon. One =/= the other, in the least.

Figgy,, I agree with you 100% on the music in There Will Be Blood. It was incessant and made my brain hurt.

Penelope, you slay me.

Let's see. Taken as a whole, if it's not boring, it's stupid. If it's neither boring nor stupid, it's overrated. If it's neither boring nor stupid or overrated, then it's No Country for Old Men. It couldn't be any more clear.

The Hours will always rank on my list of horrible movies because they threw Vanessa Bell under a fucking bus. Sister was a full-fledged member of the Bloomsbury Group and more than a little bit freaky herself, and the movie made her out to be a frumpy, easily shocked hausfrau only concerned about appearances and her next new dress. Not cool.

I guess I get irritated when people don't like Lost in Translation...

Posted by: scorzi at July 28, 2010 2:51 PM

While I don't jizz over LiT, I too get irritated when people hate on it. Anyone I know who has been in that kind of situation -- who has, you know, traveled outside their hometown -- at least appreciates the subtle "stranger in a strange land" flourishes. Wandering into a hotel bar halfway around the world while jetlagged out of your mind is a unique experience that is captured well here. So it gets tedious at times. Michael Bay's got your number if you need things to go boom.

But just to be straight about this: I'm not cutting anyone over their misplaced hate, I'm just calling them ignorant.

There will be Blood. Hated it. Could not tolerate it. My god, that final scene in the bowling alley or whatever was asinine, acted with over-the-top, laughable gusto. I'm sure the film has merit, but it just made me laugh or cringe.

The part I liked the best was the music, which was often surreal and terrifying and built to some interesting climaxes.

But just to be straight about this: I'm not cutting anyone over their misplaced hate love, I'm just calling them ignorant insane.

Fixed it for ya!

OK ok I'm not gonna get in a war over than damned movie. I just want to forget it ever existed.

The only movies I've seen from here are No Country for Old Men and Atonement. They both suck donkey balls and shouldn't be loved by anyone.

Who the fuck does not like Breakfast at Tiffanys? I've never met a single person. Why the is that on the list? No one defends that movie BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE TO. Everyone likes that film.

On that whole list the only movie I've seen is 2001, and I remember finding it a bit boring but I was 8 or 9 at the time so I've always intended to re-watch it.

Atonement is a classic? The Hours is a classic? Judging from the critical community, The Hours has not really withheld the test of time. I don't consider Atonement a classic either. The English Patient has received quite a bit of backlash since it won Best Picture and The New World was not that well received, critically at least. I do think that Lost in Translation is probably considered a classic, although I am not a big fan of it, it is worth seeing for Bill Murray's performance. Also I fucking hated The Hours.

I remember watching The English Patient with my sister the first time I had mono. I hated it so much that it actually made me feel worse. I have never forgiven it.

How about The Matrix? I've faced some serious shock and irritation that I didn't like that one. I never saw the other two Matrixes (there were 3 total, right? I'm not even sure). I couldn't even finish the fucking Matrix.

Will I get cut for not seeing all of these?

I've seen 2001, There Will Be Blood, No Country for Old Men, Breakfast at Tiffany's and The English Patient.

Loved 2001 and No Country

I'm neutral on Tiffany's and There will Be Blood

The English Patient licks the dirty sweat off of donkey taint.

The others I either don't care about or have refused to see for various reasons. I may be ready to watch Lost in Translation because I think I have finally conquered my fear of Scar Jo's thousand mile stare.

Oh!

And 500 Days of Summer should be on this list.

I hated JGL's character in that movie.

I'll just go now...

Wait. Can Dustin find out where I live?

I'll just go.

I hated, hated Lost in Translation. Everyone built it up like it was some amazing film and I fell asleep and had to rewind and start it over during part of it it was so boring. I hated Almost Famous--wanted to punch Kate Hudson. She looked like she needed a good scrubbing to me. Breakfast at Tiffany's makes me uncomfortable for various reasons. A couple I haven't seen mentioned, Garden State I hated--everyone my age said it was so moving. Me, I hated it and was not impressed. And Babel--I thought was ridiculously pretentious but I have had people argue with me that it is so thought-provoking, blah, blah.

If you want to snap someone out of blind love for Lost in Translation all you have to do is find the amplified soundtrack of what Murray whispers in her ear and the overwhelming banality is enough to restore most people to their senses.

The Warriors were dressed like the waiters at a gay bar in New York at the time. Club 54 put their waiters in hotpants and nothing else. So just from the point of view of the costuming it was a pretty ridiculous movie.

No country for old men was just silly. A period piece where the killer walked around with a captive bolt gun when there was a renaissance for weapons and things like MACs, TEC9s, HKMP5As, micro UZIs, Steyr AUGs and Jarits were all introduced in the 70s and 80s. They even actually have captive bolt guns that have self contained compressed gas supplies so you don't have to carry around a high pressure tank. They might as well have handed him Homey the Clown's sock full of wet sand. And the hairdon't that they made poor Javier Bardem wear even wasn't extant until somebody put it on Jennifer Aniston in the 90s when she did Friends.

No Toy Story 3 on the list?

Dustin's totally avoiding the "Inception" elephant...cause he knows I'm right...but you figure he'd support the team with "Toy Story 3" here. Tsk and tch!

The Hours
OK
9. The Warriors
Not seeing it
8. The English Patient
Too boring to see it
7. New World
Someone likes this?
6. Atonement
I really liked it

5. No Country for Old Men
BOOOORING

4. Breakfast at Tiffanys
I have never seen it...just read it and I didn't find it particularly good.

3. There Will Be Blood
It took me months to make myself watch it but I eventually did it, and I really liked it (not planning to re-watch it anytime soon though)

2. 2001: The Space Odyssey
Pretentious

1. Lost in Translation
Thank you. I hated it.

Can we add The Big Lebowski and The Dark Knight to this list? 'Cause, yeah. I have feared for my life after hating on those. And I really don't get it.

Posted by: Samantha at July 28, 2010 1:58 PM

Samantha, I think I love you. I liked the Dark Knight but man! Dustin ejaculates everytime he has to write about it

Kinda unrelated, but why did the Department of Homeland Security shut Pajiba down back in 2005?!

The Department of Homeland Security is the ultimate troll.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNS9MzGOQtU

Here is a list of 10 movies and the only one I consider a geniune classic is There will be blood.
No Country for Old Men was so fucking overrated and full of retarded plot holes it is not funny.
The Warriors is a cult classic but obviously does not stand up to the light of day today.
The Hours and The English Patient were too boring to watch. Atonement like Lost in Translation were aaaallllrrrright. 2001 I never really got. So many people tell me how brilliant it was. I just found it annoying.
I am willing to accept that I may be in the wrong about that movie. maybe.
And I have never gotten around to watching The New World.

Maybe I don't understand the point of this thread but what is The Warriors doing on this list? Seriously. The other movies are a pile of shit then you lump a cinematic masterpiece into it. Do you know how many saturday afternoons that movie has taken me through since I was 8?? I not being funny when I say I feel insulted. My childhood feels insulted

try telling that to lunkheads

Oh is that what you call people with hearts? I pity you, you heartless thing.

I had some issues with Schindler's List back in the day, but not because I didn't like it, but because I refused to go see it. It just wasn't the kind of movie I like to watch. People pooped on me, but then Seinfeld did their sketch and that mostly deflated the issue. Ironically, I really don't like Seinfeld, and I've taken a lot of flack over the years about that. Not denying it has its truly funny moments, but you have to wade through wads of tedious crap full of unpleasant characters to get to the good stuff.

I call for Pajiba to ask: what iconic movies have you willfully NOT seen and why?

Also: is that irony? I suck at remembering what irony is exactly.

Good Lord y'all are opinionated.

All I have to say is 2001 FOREVER MOTHERFUCKERS AWESOME AWESOME AWESOME MOVIE.

Also, whoever said they don't like The Beatles, I feel you. I don't hate them or anything, but I'm very VERY meh about them. They had some catchy tunes. I can SEE why people would like them, I guess. That's about it.

Also, I live in Dallas, am from Dallas second generation, and I fucking HATE the Dallas Cowboys.

There is no way in hell I am sitting through a 42 hour long movie where there are maybe 4 words spoken by a female character, and not coming out of it bored and aggravated.

Oh break me a fucking give, I'm now not allowed to relate to issues of isolation, betrayal, insanity, loneliness or self-destruction unless there's a vagina attached?

"Duck Soup"? Now that is shocking.

The Hours-Boring, though I remember loving John C. Reilly.

The Warriors- Gimme a break, no one could actually hate this fun and stylish escapism.

The English Patient- I cried and then felt bad about myself for allowing myself to be manipulated by this mediocre yet visually pleasing movie.

The New World- Boring as hell but gorgeous. This movie is the cinematic equivalent of Tom Brady.

Atonement- The movie did a terrible job of conveying a very sad story. If they can't make me cry with that source material, they're doing something wrong.

No Country For Old Men- Yeah, I probably hate you if you didn't like this one. It's no big loss, I'm not that great. This movie is though.

Breakfast At Tiffany's- Oh hey, while we're at it does anyone hate my Grandma? Is there any point where movies gain immunity from their annoying detractors?

There Will Be Blood- Alright, I admit it: I found my mind wandering during parts of this one. I accept that the problem is probably with me.

2001- I'm not usually a Kubrick person. I thought this one was alright, just alright.

Lost In Translation- Liked it. Though I can definitely see how some can find it pretentious. I think I've liked everything I've ever seen Bill Murray in.

The only movie whose reception has ever gotten to me is The Hangover. I thought it was so hacky and boneheaded and people I liked found it funny. That bugged me.

Why didn't someone tell me it was wrong for me to find The English Patient long and boring

Kubrick's movies are shit and 2001 is a big pile of elephant crap. The Shining was the only good thing he ever did and even that had it's moments...How can anyone not like the Dark Knight? I'm not saying it was Oscar worthy and I laughed every time Batman said something because of that horrible raspy voice-thing but, it's a great way to waste some time on a slow afternoon.

Posted by: greenblue at July 28, 2010 8:59 PM

You're handed a microphone and this is what you have to say?

Kubrick made films in which I could see the art but struggled to muster the care. I can remember key lines and images, but something about them just didn't connect. It's hard to describe: it's like he was great at creating a scene or an atmosphere, but not so great at populating it.

Posted by: Squirrelgripper at July 28, 2010 10:48 PM

For reference, greenblue, here's a more appropriate use of the mic 'round here.

The hostility and warlike demeanor I have endured after expressing, that I don't care for "Being John Malkovich", Is insane. It always seems like it will end with blood and hair on the walls of my apartment.

I hated Lost in Translation.....and fuck Sofia Coppola for ruining Godfather 3. There is no statute of limitations on that shit.

I never saw Atonement but just from the trailers, I wanted to punch that little brat in the throat.

I agree on Being John Malkovich as well. I waited a couple months to see that and heard all this hype and was fired up to see it and haven't been so let down by a movie in my life. I was mad at other people for liking it so much and telling me I was missing out.

Some of the movies on the list are good. I saw Breakfast at Tiffany's on a bad second date with a freshly broken foot and still liked it. There Will Be Blood and No Country were good, The Warriors gets nostalgia points. I didn't see the others but am sure I did the right thing by staying away.

OK I'm sorry but GONE WITH THE WIND totally sucked. It was simply a lame ass soap opera for women. forced to watch it for film class. waaay boring.

All of you, prepare to be united...

I have seen all of these movies and I can't stand any of them. I'd rather shove a wax apple up my ass, run a marathon, then sit down and read "The DaVinci Code" in Spanish (El Codigo de DaVinci) before I see any one of the movies on this list again.

@Kris & JOn:
We now have an idea of what you don't like. So what floats your cinematic boat?

I'm kinda meh about all of them except for my eternal love for 'There Will Be Blood' simply for the milkshake scene.

The most I get picked on for or reserve my distaste for in the vicinity of others is 'Lost in Translation'. Like who cares what he whispered or what the hell was going in on in that film. It looked pretty and had a decent soundtrack, somehow it's the voice of our generation? Thank you, but no.

My boss was in shock because I have absolutely no interest in seeing Toy Story 3. I dont think it suck or anything, just not into it. I'm sure I'm to get further disparagement for it.

Snuggiepants - It was me who said I don't like the Beatles, and you completely articulated my stance on them. I just don't get why people go all apeshit over them. I don't actually actively hate them, but all they inspire in me is a heavily sighed "meh"

The Hours and Lost in Translation seem to be taking the heaviest hits. For what it's worth, The Hours is one of my favorite movies ever, although I can understand why people think it's pretentious, it just really resonated with me. I was battling depression pretty bad when it came out, and I just felt like I could really identify with the portrayal of Virginia Woolf. But she's one of my favorite authors, I love Ed Harris, and I have enjoyed reading Mrs. Dalloway over and over, so I think I went into it expecting to be pleased. I just think it did a good job of showing how much people are isolated from each other.

i had the nerve to say one little negative thing about the dark night and a coworker of mine berated me, accused me of liking hannah montana and high school musical, (nonsense i'm not a child) told me i had no taste and this went on for days and weeks! for the record i really liked the dark night, and all i said was that i didn't worship it as the greatest movie of all time like some people. scary stuff. but when you try to sit down and talk to these people about important films in history they look at you like you're crazy.

Yeah, not reading all of these comments, but Princess Bride needs to be on a "Classic Films Generally Non-Judgmental People Will Cut You For Hating."

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I fucking despised Eternal Sunshine of a Spotless Mind and get thrown under the bus because of this all the time. "WTF, man? That movie is like, the best thing ever. You just didn't get it."

No. I got it. It fucking blew, but I got it.

Same thing goes for Garden State. I don't need to be beaten around the face and neck with: PAY ATTENTION, PLEBIAN. THIS IS WHAT QUIRK LOOKS LIKE.

sorry but...Shawshank Redemption.

I now fear for my life.

To whoever said they didn't like The Beatles:
Right the fuck on. I'm pretty sure I hate them.

To quote someone whose name I don't remember "The Beatles were popular with a generation who found colour television impressive, move the fuck on."
And yet, they are played at work 24/7 on the house music. Ugh. They just aren't good enough any more.

And don't defend them by saying they invented modern rock music and without them we'd have nothing, because even if they did, that doesn't mean they were any good.
If I offered you a trip around the world in either an F-22 fighter jet, or the Wright Brothers prototype, you'd take the F-22.. and you'd be right to do so, because the Wright Brothers plane is a piece of shit nowadays, innit?

And don't defend them by saying they invented modern rock music and without them we'd have nothing, because even if they did, that doesn't mean they were any good.
If I offered you a trip around the world in either an F-22 fighter jet, or the Wright Brothers prototype, you'd take the F-22.. and you'd be right to do so, because the Wright Brothers plane is a piece of shit nowadays, innit?

Posted by: The Only New Zealander at July 29, 2010 8:06 PM

You have a fucking strange view of music, that's all I can say.

I mean, that jaw-dropping continuous shot on the beach ALONE deserves a fucking Oscar all of its own.

Nope. One shot does not a movie make.

This has been a fantastic read.

The only two I've seen are No Country for Old Men and There Will be Blood. I enjoyed No country, and while I can't say I enjoyed Blood (definitely the wrong word to use), I was fascinated by both of them. I think both are pretty amazing works. My brother, on the other hand, hates No Country, so there you go.

@the Only New Zealander - well, first, you're not the only one anymore. Secondly, you really think the Beatles are not good enough anymore? They're vastly more interesting than 90% of whats come since.

I hate The New World. I actually put it on my bottom ten films of 2005 list (at #9, I believe). And that's out of 100+ films, so that's saying something.

Wow. This list really did the trick for getting everyone really worked up, eh?

I get a lot of flack for hating on/pointing out flaws in District 9 and Inception as of recently too. Everyone's like: WHAT?! HOW DID YOU NOT LIKE THIS MOVIE IT'S THE BEST MOVIE EVARRR

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@Samantha

I find it ironic that all the reasons as to why that man "hated" The Dark Knight, could be said about that article. Boring, one-note, too-long.

First of all, the man says he likes Inception...but that The Dark Knight had too many plot lines to follow? ARE U KIDDING ME???

Second of all, if you don't like The Dark Knight because of its length...then you have no attention span. I've said it before on Pajiba and I'll say it again. Go read a book. Get an attention span. And then you can enjoy real movies that don't end in 88 minutes.

Also...to people who say No Country For Old Men is boring...how are you bored by a serial killer hunting a man down? Like...how is death boring?

AND STOP HATING ON CRASH!!!!

Oh, and the knives come out every time I tell people that Tim Burton is a talentless hack who's too in love with his crappy, half-ass set design and shitty red and blue gel lighting to tell a decent story well. The man should be lighting garage versions of Pee Wee's Playhouse, not making films. The only thing worthwhile he ever gave us was Lisa Marie's lips and cleavage on film.

The pinnacle of shittiness is the first Batman. No, Willy Wanker and the Rape Your Childhood Memories Factory. No, Receding Hairline Batman and His Assortment of One-Use Only Vehicles.

Lost in Translation is the first on that list because, unlike many other generic likeable films, it's a personal kind of like:
* for people who have been in that specific kind of love,
* who've felt that specific kind of loneliness,
* who've been lost and jet lagged in a foreign country (in this case, Japan, but could've been anywhere else, so take it easy, Japanese people),
* who've been through a mid 20's crisis after graduating from college and not knowing WTF to do with your life,
* or a 50's crisis near retirement in a dead end marriage,
* who are fans of nouvelle vague cinema, karaoke and Kevin Shields.

On top of having to tick at least some of these boxes, Sofia shines through subtlety, which more often than not includes long silences to accompany her uncommon low level/natural lighting cinematography, all of which are a lot harder to properly appreciate (especially on DVD - GO TO THE CINEMA, PEOPLE).

Not ALL movies need to be that personal and relatable, this one just happens to be. It's like Rum-Raisin ice-cream: it's simply just not for everyone, and that's ok. There will always be chocolate and vanilla for the rest of you :)