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A Pajiba Special Report: Should You Give Up Cable Television?

By Dustin Rowles | Posted Under Seriously Random Lists | Comments (86)



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Cable television is expensive, and the rates continue to rise. For a lot of folks, cable television costs as much or more than your average electric bill. I’m a DirectTV subscriber, and I believe I pay somewhere in the range of $130 a month, a price that includes HBO and Showtime plus the leasing charges for a couple of HD DVRs (honestly, why can’t we just buy the HD DVRs, instead of paying a monthly fee to use them? ). I watch a lot of television, though — it’s part of the job description, but even I often wonder if there’s a less expensive (and legal) way to get the same amount of television for a lower price.

A few weeks ago, Time Warner nearly lost Fox when the network asked the cable provider to pony up some extra fees for the rights to broadcast the station. This will probably be a future trend, and why shouldn’t it be? Cable channels not only get advertising revenue, but an additional revenue stream from cable providers. Networks, especially now that DVRs are squeezing out advertising revenue, ought to be afforded that same income stream. Additional revenue, one would imagine, would help the networks pay for higher-quality programming.

At any rate, I suspect at some point — particularly now that so many people are purchasing television shows on iTunes and watching streaming video on sites like Hulu — that the model will move eventually toward a la carte, which is something we’re all clamoring for. Why should we pay for 115 cable channels when we only watch ten of them? And once our televisions and our computer monitors are more or less merged into one Internet Television, I get the sense that we’ll actually be able to subscribe to specific channels, including the networks, for an a la carte fee.

But until then, we’re stuck with the existing model. But how do we beat the system? Most of the younger generation and a lot of those older have already figured this out, but for others, it helps to see the evidence in print. So, for my own edification and to illustrate a point, I thought I’d try a math experiment.

Is cable television worth what I’m paying for it?

Currently, I believe, you can watch any network television program you want, for free, online, or you can pony up somewhere on average of $30 (for a 10 - 13 episode season) or $60 (for a 20 to 24 episode season) on iTunes. Now, let’s assume that the average television viewer’s cable bill is $100 a month, or $1200 a year. Let’s also assume that you don’t watch sports (a big assumption for many of you).

Now, what I want to learn from this experiment is, for me (which you can extrapolate for your own television-watching situation), would it be more cost effective to subscribe to cable in its current incarnation or purchase television programs on iTunes. At the outset, I assume, for me, that it will be less expensive to subscribe to cable, but I welcome all of you to do your own math and decide which format is cheaper based on what shows you watch.

A caveat: I’m only including shows that I’d be willing to pay for, and not those that I watch because they’re free. I’m also only including shows currently on the air (or in between seasons). And let’s assume for the sake of this exercise that I don’t want to watch streaming commercials, so I’d prefer to purchase the program on iTunes.

Let’s break this down by network:

NBC: “Chuck” ($60), “Friday Night Lights” ($30), “The Office,” ($60), “Community” ($60), “30 Rock” ($60)
Total Costs: $270


ABC: “Modern Family” ($60), “Scrubs” ($30), “Better off Ted” ($30), “Castle” ($60).
Total Costs: $180

CBS: “The Good Wife” ($60), “The Amazing Race” ($60), “Survivor” ($60).
Total Costs: $180

Fox: Nothing.

CW: Nothing

F/X: “Damages” ($30), “Sons of Anarchy” ($30),
Total Costs: $60

Bravo: “Top Chef” ($30)
Total Costs: $30

HBO: Eastbound and Down” ($30), “Big Love” ($30)
Total Costs: $60

Showtime: “Dexter” ($30)
Total Costs: $30

TNT: Nothing

TBS: Nothing

The USA Network: “Psych” ($30), “Burn Notice” ($30)
Total Costs: $60

AMC: “Mad Men” ($30), “Breaking Bad” ($30)
Total Costs: $60


Total Television Watching Costs: $930


Wow. That is not what I’d have imagined, and it’s actually fairly telling. If I purchased all the shows that I regularly watch, I’d only spend $930, which is $600 less than I normally spend per year for cable. And, for $600 less, I’d have complete portability — I could watch the show on my iPhone, on my desktop, or on my laptop. (Again: This doesn’t, of course, take into account late night shows or sporting events, which I also watch).

Now, if I decided that I wanted to watch streaming television, in which case all the network primetime and late-night programming is free, I’d only be paying roughly $270 a year to watch everything I currently watch (or at least, the important shows). For me, that’s a total savings of around $1200 a year.

In essence, what this experiment is telling me is that I should give up cable television.

Will I? Well, no. I need it for my job. But what about you? Have you stopped and done a cost analysis of your television watching to see what’s more inexpensive? If you could save $400 or $500 or even $1000 a year, would you give up the ability basically to flip through channels to watch shows you’re not that invested in? You’d not only be paying significantly less money, but you’d force yourself to give up watching a lot of unnecessary television. Cable television — and the thousands of hours of filler programming — is creating coach potatoes out of so many of us, and we’re paying for that right.

Just think, folks. You don’t even have to give up your fancy new 42-inch HD television. You can buy a simple cable (S-Video, VGA, HDMI, DVI, depending on your computer or television) and watch those shows on your big-screen TeeVee. Most of the programs are already in HD, too, so you won’t even be giving up that. Moreover, you won’t need to buy our lease a DVR because you can watch television programs on your computer at any time (with the ability to pause) — most network shows are available for up to the last two to five weeks of episodes (in some cases, even more), and if you’re not watching a show within the first five weeks of its air date, then maybe you’re not that invested in it, after all.

Lookit: I’m not telling most of you anything you don’t already know, but I know some of you have never stopped to do the math (I had not until today). You don’t have to be a slave to your cable provider. And the best part is: This is perfectly legal. In fact, You’d be doing even more to support your favorite shows — the streaming shows come with commercials (though, far fewer than on regular television) and, of course, they’d get a share of the money from purchase on iTunes. And if you need cable for sporting events — fuck it. Go to a bar — use that money you usually spend on cable to buy beer. Support your local watering hole instead of Comcast or Time Warner. It’s a win-win!

So, do it! Give up your cable television. You know the cable guy who never shows up on time and wastes half your day? Screw him. Those taxes and fees that cable providers add to your monthly bill? Fuck it. The countless hours you flip through channels only to settle on some shitty reality show on E! Give it up. Do you really need to see that latest Lifetime movie of the week? Read a book. Surf the web. Watch a movie. More money. More time. Less hassle.









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Comments

You don't watch House, Dustin? :( For shameeeee

For someone who doesn't have a television, I watch wayyyy too much TV. No daily shows though (like late night shows or Jon Stewart show) though so I don't feel like I need the television/cable.

Posted by: dene at January 22, 2010 2:10 PM

I canceled my cable two years ago and the only thing I miss is sporting events, everything else can be found online for free. I just go to a bar or a buddies house if there is a game I want to watch.

Posted by: Alan at January 22, 2010 2:13 PM

AMEN

Posted by: jvo at January 22, 2010 2:14 PM

Yeah, I cut mine off a few weeks ago. All I was watching was Intervention and Hoarders, so I'd watched about six hours of TV within a month, and probably nothing the previous month. So, I miss out on Misery Monday, but that's an expensive two hours. Anything else I want to see (which isn't much) I torrent, apart from The Daily Show.

Posted by: Jay at January 22, 2010 2:18 PM

This is quite interesting. We'll have to take a look at how it works out with the phone and cable modem bundled in too.

Posted by: Cindy at January 22, 2010 2:18 PM

I've completely gotten rid of my cable. I discovered that it was just more cost efficient for me to buy the entire season when it came out on DVD. Add to that the ability to watch all the episodes back to back and I was pretty much sold on that idea. I never thought I would need to see any show so badly that I would pay the per viewing fee because you can catch most shows online the next day. But, Glee ruined that reasoning for me as I have found myself purchasing various episodes to watch when I'm out and about. Actually, Supernatural and Dexter have pried some money out of my wallet too. But, I mostly wait. Mostly.

Posted by: Peanut_Butter_And_James at January 22, 2010 2:21 PM

Dear sweet Jesopus, you're way overthinking this. Maybe because part of your self-appointed "job" description involves watching new programming.

But I also canceled cable TV years ago, and bought an off-air antenna. I have FiOS Internet access, Tivo, and Netflix. There ain't nothin' I can't watch if I really want to. I even preferred watching all 4 seasons of BSG all at once. No muss, no fuss, no waiting 6 months for a cliffhanger to be resolved.

And the sports argument may be going the way of the dodo. I know NASCAR isn't a big draw to the Pajiba crowd, but supposedly they will begin streaming all NASCAR races over the web this year, and I'm sure their efforts will be closely watched by other sports.

Posted by: ahamos at January 22, 2010 2:22 PM

Am I the only one who watches TV as background noise? Today I will watch old school 90210 (a good ep is on) probably some Golden Girls, Nogin, maybe a Friends ep, maybe a TV movie or whatever else looks good. I don't always know what I want to watch, you know? I like the choice.

I would kill for ala carte choices, though. I have 20 sports channels I have never watched, five shopping channels and a fuckton of news channels. I could drop 50 channels from my line up no problem, but the choice below me didn't have Bravo and fuck that noise. So here I am, paying for channels I don't care about to get two I do.

Posted by: TWoP Fan at January 22, 2010 2:23 PM

I cancelled my cable last summer when I signed up for netflix. I don't mind being behind, in fact I prefer being behind. I guess you could call me a back-door man...actually, nevermind. I agree with your asstute analysis.

*snickers*

Posted by: ThunderSacTriumph at January 22, 2010 2:25 PM

We ditched cable a long while back. There are so many free and legal alternatives on the internet that is just isn't necessary anymore.

Posted by: Spender at January 22, 2010 2:26 PM

asstute analysis

Ass-tute Anal-ysis.

Yes, I am a 12 year old.

Posted by: Spender at January 22, 2010 2:27 PM

Netflix instant watch was, for me, the biggest argument in favor of canceling cable. Don't underestimate the value of instant watch as a substitution good. There aren't very many shows I need to watch when they first air, I'm more than happy to catch up on the ones I like when the DVDs come out. Factor in a laptop with an HDMI output for streaming Hulu and that $100/month for cable TV just seems absurd.

The reasons I haven't cut the cord? Well, marriage is a partnership...

Also, streaming options aren't good for the times you just want to channel surf and decompress from a hard day with some background TV. Daily Show, Man v. Food, E! News, The Soup, syndicated Office or Seinfeld episodes, cheesy VH1 countdown shows, etc. etc. On Demand just can't replicate the soothing psychological effects of channel surfing for something to have on while you prepare dinner.

That, and live sporting events. I would miss all the Cubs and College Football games on cable. And as much as I hate cable news and ESPN there are times when some shits going down and I like to be able to see what's happening.

Posted by: Yossarian at January 22, 2010 2:31 PM

Cable is life. If I could, I would attach myself to cable like the N'avi to the tree of life.

Posted by: welldressed at January 22, 2010 2:36 PM

i haven't had cable or satellite for over 5 years. i really don't even watch regular network tv; but plan to when 'lost' returns.
we do a lot of netflix and watching what we can online. i can't even begin to imagine how much money we've saved over those years.

Posted by: maxpurr9 at January 22, 2010 2:38 PM

With only 3 shows I actively want to watch (30 Rock, Psych, Burn Notice) there's just no reason for me to pay for cable. I'm perfectly happy to either get up a bit earlier the next morning to catch up on 30 Rock, or else I've got something excellent to look forward to after work the next day. Yeah, I love History Channel and Golden Girls reruns, but not enough to justify that cost. (Yes, I'll buy the GG DVDs someday, but it's not the same as randomly flipping channels and 'ooooh, Golden Girls!!')

Posted by: Gabs at January 22, 2010 2:38 PM

Um, why would watching Network television cost any money? I mean I guess you can pay for it on iTunes if you want, but you know that you can get HD network TV for free over the airwaves most places in the country?

That'll save you $630 right there.

Posted by: b at January 22, 2010 2:39 PM

my buddy works for the cable company in my neighborhood specifically, so i get it for free. otherwise, i'd have nothing but rabbit ears, which is just fine by me. i mostly use my tv for movies anyway. i am really looking forward to LOST starting back up again tho.

Posted by: gem at January 22, 2010 2:42 PM

WHOA, I need to do one of those assessments, POST-HASTE!! I'd LOVE to save that much money!!

Posted by: Jelinas at January 22, 2010 2:42 PM

@TWoP Fan: no, you are not alone. I live this way as well. I even have a system for when I want the TV on while I write: I seek out a program that I don't mind listening to but isn't good enough to distract me.

Besides, it's true that generally I only watch a few series, but there's always that day when I feel like watching just whatever the hell and I end up stuck on a 1,000 Ways to Die marathon or whatnot even though normally I'd rather set myself on fire than watch anything on Spike.

TV: live it, love it. H8Rs to the left.

Posted by: Melodie at January 22, 2010 2:54 PM

We'll keep it for the sports. And hubby wouldn't be able to go to the bar every time or he'd be a raging drunk and I'd never see him--the man watches a ton of sports.

Posted by: lainiefig at January 22, 2010 2:56 PM

I had no idea cable costs that much. I got it free with rent at my last place, and didn't bother getting it hooked up when I moved. Also, rates in Canada are way lower than that, I think. I don't know anyone that pays more than $70/month, and that's for satellite.

Posted by: Brenton at January 22, 2010 2:57 PM

Since my cable is currently "free" aka rolled into tuition costs, I can't really analyze the money aspect. But I'll definitely keep this in mind when I move out of the dorms. Most of my shows I can catch online, and Netflix owns my mortal soul.
Netflix Instant replaces my habit of surfing channels at 8 o'clock to find a movie and also lets me start shows from the beginning, not just jump into them when nothing else is on.

The only real sacrifice for me, like Yossarian and TWoP fan mentioned, would be the background noise/aimless surfing. Sometimes I have 15 mins to kill and I like to find a syndicated Seinfeld or Friends to use as a murder weapon.
In that case, I really hope the a la carte idea catches on. I have a hard time giving up habits, but that's like a nice ease-yourself-into-it option.

Posted by: gee. ay. at January 22, 2010 2:59 PM

Well we pay $200 a month after fees/taxes but we wont downgrade I was just telling someone how much tv we watch. We havent been to the movies in ages I think the dark knight. Also we LOVE the A & E, ID and biography channels. I mean we have never seen funnier shows than , I'm Alive, I survived and I shouldn't be Alive.

Posted by: blacksred at January 22, 2010 3:00 PM

It may make me sound like a granny, but I kind of hate watch tv online. The picture quality even on sites like Hulu can be pretty terrible, and even with a new fresh computer and super-fast internet, I feel like it freezes up too often/ the sound and picture get out of sync. I prefer my regular cable and a DVR anyday.

Posted by: ami at January 22, 2010 3:01 PM

Our household hasn't had cable for about five years and I still don't miss it. I can watch network shows with my trusty rabbit ears and converter box, or online for free. Unfortunately I can't say we've obtained our cable shows in an entirely legal manner, but we do pay someone named Usenet (I'm not entirely familiar with geek-ese, but the husband is a native speaker) about $10 per month, so someone is getting paid. I do miss being able to easily turn on my TV and watch a lot of the crap everyone talks about around here, but I can catch that on our frequent weekend travels where the accommodations provide free cable.

I say do it! Even if it's not in the mostly free manner we've chosen. The cable companies are evil.

Posted by: katy at January 22, 2010 3:02 PM

I've thought about this a lot.

I pay way more for cable than I should. Way, way, way more. I watch 4 shows: Modern Family, The Office, 30 Rock and Lost. So, soon it will be 3 shows. Other than that, all I watch is sports: hockey and football.

So, after a couple of weeks it will be hockey and 4 shows. While I watch my fair share of hockey, I don't think it justifies whatever I pay ($100+) for cable.

This is especially true in June-August. From the time the Stanley Cup Finals are over until pre-season football, I rarely, if ever, even turn the TV on. If I get home late and want to watch some mindless movie on free cable, that's about it. I have plenty of DVDs I never watch for that purpose, plus Netflix DVDs that sit around for months on end.

Posted by: Forbiddendonut at January 22, 2010 3:06 PM

I quit giving the cable leeches money decades ago. Plenty of good PBS and local plus I have lots of VHS movies and now DVD's purchased cheap. Just recently discovered the joy that is Netflix...$13.95 a month for all kinds of DVD's and online shows.

Posted by: jotthedot at January 22, 2010 3:07 PM

Do you really need to see that latest Lifetime movie of the week?

Um, YES. particularly if it stars Tori Spelling, Valerie Bertinelli, and/or Meredith Baxter.

Or ALL THREE. *gasp* Somebody get me Lifetime on the horn!

Posted by: Anna von Beaverpuppet at January 22, 2010 3:09 PM

I work in cable (I know, I know) so I get my cable for free now. Before this job, I was a big fan of the old "Call and threaten to cancel so they'll give you a 6 month deal" trick. Because cable companies will do pretty much anything to keep you from canceling.

The reason that a la carte cable will probably never become available is because small, upstart cable networks would never survive in that model. I suppose one could argue we don't need niche networks like the Golf Channel or NFL Network or HGTV, but if you look at all of the weird specialty magazines that are available, it's not so far-fetched to assume there could be a market for such singular programming networks. When a network gets picked up by a cable company, they sign a contract to add them to a tier, so that they will be included and hopefully, at some point, watched. I know you could also argue that if someone really wanted to watch NFL all the time, they would "pick" that channel, but the cost of starting up and running a network is simply too great to take that kind of chance. Which, if it's not a good network, then it should fail. But at least in the current model (ass-rapingly expensive as it may be) they have a chance.

It looks like I'm talking myself out of my own argument here, but it's a point of view from within the (sleazy behemoth) industry.

Posted by: KE at January 22, 2010 3:09 PM

I like TV as mindless background noise, too. I don't really watch anything regularly and I don't want to have to work too much at it-I just want to turn on the TV and scroll down the guide. It's just that lately I feel like the number of shows that actually look appealing has gotten smaller and smaller.

Sometimes I feel like 75% of what's on is just an assortment of copycat reality television and shows that tell us about the many different ways the world could end catastrophically at any moment, along with a generous sprinkling of home shopping channels. I also feel like 'paid programming' takes up a lot of TV time. I consider 'paid programming' to be the modern equivalent of a channel being off the air.

I'm beginning to feel like a chump every time I pay my bill.

Posted by: slip at January 22, 2010 3:11 PM

Right now, I live with 3 other guys so it's only about $50 for per person for cable/internet per person.

As I'm planning on moving out in another 6 months, I already decided dropping cable would be the first way to save money. Plus you're not even including Netflix and if you have a PS3/Xbox360/Wii, you can have it instantly stream plus watch all the movies you ever wanted!

Posted by: Gnaius at January 22, 2010 3:13 PM

Honestly, I haven't watched TV in months. I am watching everything online. I have trouble sitting still front TV these days, I can't do 3 other things at the same time like I can online. I pay about $100 for my cable and internet package, so it isn't bad. But when the current promotional I agreed too expires my roommate and I may need to see if we can cut the cable, maybe in favor of Netflix.

Posted by: Lindsey with an 'e' at January 22, 2010 3:21 PM

Count me in among those with no cable (haven't had it in 6 years). Instead, I have rabbit ears (Alan Alda--remember him?--hosted "The Human Spark" on PBS), Netflix, and Hulu. My parents do have DirectTV, so I have satellite TV access on some weekends...and really, 500 channels and nothing worth watching. And that costs almost $100 per month. No thank you.

Posted by: True_Blue at January 22, 2010 3:21 PM

I have worked in the cable/entertainment industry for the past 13 years so I find this topic fascinating. My husband has complained since we met that it's ridiculous that a la carte isn't an option. The technology exists but is really isn't advantageous from a business standpoint (yet) for cable operators or programmers to allow "cherry picking", as it is also referred to in the industry. It's good for programmers to help offset programming development costs. For operators (Time Warner, Comcast, DirecTV), it helps them sell their digital tiers.

My husband and I cut the cord on cable three and a half years ago and haven't looked back. Hulu, YouTube, my laptop and our new PS3 for Netflix streaming allow me to watch most of the shows I like for free (for now) or for very minimal cost. And since I have young children, the delay of a day or two before a show becomes available online doesn't really matter much since if I had a DVR with cable I'd just be time shifting anyway to accommodate bedtimes, etc.

Like a few of you mentioned above, I like being able to have a marathon of episodes to watch. Plus the instant gratification of getting answers as to what'll happen next for shows like LOST and Dexter (which I came to quite late in the game) is awesome.

From the perspective of my job, I really don't feel like I'm missing out on anything since most show or network sites have their promos featured there so you still get a sense for the on-air sensibilities of the channel/brand/franchise. And there is always YouTube if there is something else I "need".

I think the Internet and all of the various off-channel viewing opportunities will bring all of this to a head as more and more people cut the cord. Operators and programmers will have to either change the current model or shut down operations as people say, "No more" to paying for only a handful of channels. I do think that the cost per channel would increase significantly from the current rates that operators (through subscribers) pay for their channels. For instance, if ESPN is paid $1.50 per subscriber per month under the current model (that is totally a made up number, by the way), I think you could expect to see it increase to a cost of $15.00 (again, a totally made up number) for a la carte. There are significant overhead costs to running a channel, so if the pie isn't being split as many ways then you're going to have to raise those fees accordingly.

Posted by: prairiegirl at January 22, 2010 3:29 PM

For once, small town equals small prices. I pay 46.50 for cable each month. I get all the big networks, ABC, NBC, CBS. Our service package includes Food Network, CNN, FX, Turner Classic, etc. I subscribe to HBO, Movieplex and some Western channel, and an ESPN sports package.

I would love to have AMC, or the Independent Film Channel or other things that people get to watch in the bigger markets. My husband keeps complaining that he would rather have Dish or DirectTV.

I think that I'm lucky!

Posted by: Goddess at January 22, 2010 3:32 PM

I haven't had cable for 2 years with no complaints. I got a converter box from the government like my grandma's and have free network channels. Waiting for Dexter and Big Love to go to dvd is worth it when you consider the added cost of premium cable. And I missed The Office last night so I just watched it online for free a few minutes ago. I hate missing Cards games but now I actually prefer listening to them on the radio instead. Living without cable isn't difficult at all.

Posted by: Austin asking for trouble at January 22, 2010 3:34 PM

Me and the lady have cable and Internet through Comcast, and it's the most basic cable package they have (80 or so channels, no movie networks, and neither of us gives shit one about sports). The bill is $100 a month. Even when I used to have HBO, I would occasionally reflect on the fact that I was paying extra just on the off chance that they'd happen to be airing something good when I had a moment to tune in, which was rarely the case. The shows I care about and get paid to review are on networks that can be accessed with a basic converter box, and I've got hundreds of dollars worth of TV DVDs and Netflix Watch Instantly that I could stand to use more.

Seriously, this could be the beginning of a whole new thing for me.

Posted by: Daniel Carlson at January 22, 2010 3:53 PM

I did the hard, cold math on this about four (or possibly more) years ago. At a savings of $100 per month, that's at least $5,000 that has gone into (or at least through) my pockets instead.

And what, exactly, have I missed? Anything available on cable I can get now somewhere online or eventually through Netflix.

Every so often the cable company will call with some special offer to beg me to come back. I love it when they grovel. Maybe someday I can get the same satisfaction from my cell phone provider.

Posted by: Neodiogenes at January 22, 2010 4:00 PM

I'm exactly like prairiegirl up there. I haven't had cable in years. What I do have is a PS3-through which I stream Hulu, Netflicks, and Youtube. And thanks to my apartment being located just a little too close to my apt complex Clubhouse's free wi-fi, I don't have to pay for internets either. So good times, that. And boo to cable.

Posted by: CinnabarriGirl at January 22, 2010 4:05 PM

I'm another "TV as background noise" person. Also, watching TV on my computer is irritating, whether or not I hook it up to the TV. I like to do stuff while watching TV (case in point, Halloween 4 is on AMC HD right now while I type) and having to do that shit AROUND the window streaming the movie/show/whatever is just obnoxious.

I would love an a la carte option. I don't watch sports channels and I definitely don't need those shitty preachy-ass religious channels or shopping channels. I do need IFC and BBC America and WE and Oxygen (don't judge me, I used to work on some of their shows and now I can't stop watching what they're doing without me, it's shameful), which are always, without fail, in the top fucking programming tiers. Being given a limit of a certain number of channels (like the current packages work), but actually getting to pick which channels, would make my day.

Posted by: Nat Kittyface at January 22, 2010 4:11 PM

Mr fig and I looked into getting cable when I moved in, but we realized Netflix was cheap, fast, and had neverending choices to play on Instant Watch. We got a new tv for DVDs and such, but we only have it hooked up to play normal broadcast channels, which are honestly all I need. I like to watch some shows immediately (like Lost) but those are all on regular networks.

I can watch something like Jersey Shore on MTV for free, or any other stupid show I want, even food network shows. The ONLY channel I really want to have is A&E for Misery Night, but I can live without it and save myself the money, since I can't get that one channel alone. I thought I'd really want Comedy Central, but they have full episodes for free on their website! And that's all I'd ever want to watch!

So, no, I don't want to pay for cable. It's ridiculously expensive and I know I'd just end up watching 10 channels at the most. I'd rather up my Netflix DVD count and watch everything else online.

TWoP fan: I have it on a lot just for background noise too! but all I need are mexican channels and their 24/7 telenovela programming and I'm set!

Hey. Anyone know where I can watch The Soup online? That's the one show I REALLY miss.

Posted by: figgy at January 22, 2010 4:16 PM

We need either an a la carte option for networks, or, failing that, we need less networks. I'm pretty sure you could condense the shows America want's to actually watch into about 30 networks, tops. And no reruns, infomercials, or other bullshit like that to get in the way.

We'd be closer together, and cable would be cheaper, what's not to love?

Posted by: George at January 22, 2010 4:20 PM

My cable cost used to be included with my rent, but that contract ran out last month, so I had to choose either ATT ($55 a month for basic cable) or continue with Time Warner, for, it turns out, about the same amount. The last time I checked (a couple years ago), basic cable was about $20. WTF happened? The quality of TV sure as hell hasn't improved since then. The Kardashian family alone is responsible for a sizable decrease in my satisfaction with television. Any time I see one of the seemingly inexhaustible promos for their show, I wish a slow and painful death on every one of them, including Bruce Jenner.

I watch maybe a dozen of the channels I'm paying for. The rest are sports, news, religion, shopping and Spanish language. And a lot of the programming on the channels I do watch is shit. Of all the things I pay for, I am the most resentful of cable because I'm definitely not getting a good ROI on it, especially now. I know the strategy is to get me to move up a "tier," but fuck that. For $55 a month, I should get a hell of a lot better than what I'm getting now. I am seriously considering alternatives. I might miss a few of the channels I watch regularly, but if it means not having to sit through the same pathetic rotation of garbage I'm constantly clicking through now, it'll be worth it.

Posted by: Slash at January 22, 2010 4:27 PM

I would love to kick my horrible cable company to the curb but:

Already pay for basic cable thru mobile-home park where I live
Must have landline for visitors to call me for gate access
Internet service through cable company
No laptop, I don't want to sit at my desk to watch (I like my comfy couch)

And you get a "bundled" price through the cable company, so if I drop a service, the price skyrockets.

Posted by: nancy at January 22, 2010 4:28 PM

Nat Kittyface is right on about why streaming on a computer sucks:

"I like to do stuff while watching TV (case in point, Halloween 4 is on AMC HD right now while I type) and having to do that shit AROUND the window streaming the movie/show/whatever is just obnoxious."

Even if it's background noise I want it on the big screen while I'm free to check email and Pajiba.

Still, it kills me to spend more than $1000/year on cable while Netflix, which is much more valuable to me, gets less than $250/year. (And books maybe $300/year)

Damnit, Bubblegumshoe, we need to have a family meeting.

Posted by: Yossarian at January 22, 2010 4:33 PM

I have comcast cable, and they want to charge us 60$ for internet only while basic cable plus internet is somehow ten dollars cheaper at 50$. Sofa King We Todd Ed.

Posted by: elliot at January 22, 2010 4:39 PM

I'm with you, Yossarian. We're trying to downgrade our cable right now to save up more money, and I'm having to be the greedy asshole opposing it because almost EVERY CHANNEL I WATCH disappears if we move down a tier. And that is, of course, the point of these things, I get that, it's a sleazy but profitable business practice, but it still makes me SO ANGRY. Like, can't I forfeit the Golf channel in exchange for BBC America? Can I trade BET for WE? Let's talk barter here, Comcast.

On the Netflix note, they're not as awesome as everyone (including me, up until about a month ago) seems to think they are. I've already pretty much exhausted anything worth viewing on their Instant Watch list, leaving me with about 60 third-rate B-movies in my instant watch queue that I'll probably never watch, and the fiancee and I are still fucking stuck paying for separate accounts because (A) they have NO PROVISION for merging two accounts together, which means I'd have to manually re-add my 390-some DVDs into a brand-new queue on his account, and (B) sub-profiles on the Netflix account aren't allowed instant watch access. Ever. At all. They don't get an instant queue, they can't click on the movies to watch them instantly, and hell, they don't even get to see which movies are AVAILABLE for Netflix Instant. So not only do I not get to instant add anything I specifically want, I also don't get to have Netflix recommend any instant watching for me like they currently do. I'd have to go to my fiancee like he's my freaking DAD and ask HIM to please add something to his instant queue for me IF it's available (or, y'know, use his login credentials, but god fucking damn it what's the point of profiles in the first place if I'm just gonna use his?).

So just relying on Netflix is definitely out of the question for us. So here we are, going in circles about how we can downgrade our cable without me weeping at the TV altar every day as a result.

Maybe I REALLY LIKE watching Red Sonja and Mrs. Doubtfire for the 500th time each while I do my grad school reading assignments. >_>

Posted by: Nat Kittyface at January 22, 2010 4:50 PM

Good analysis - and a pretty timely one for me personally.

I've been strongly considering giving up the cable recently. They raised my bill to what I consider to be a ridiculous level.

The problem is multi-fold.

Yes, I'm a moderately big sports fan, and although I enjoy bars on occasion, I don't enjoy frequenting them. I'm too much of a homebody, hate cigarettes, don't want to worry about parking, etc. Additionally - being on the west coast - most of the manner in which I even keep up with sports is by catching Sportscenter. A couple months ago I was so irked by Time Warner that I was just going to bite the bullet and cancel the cable, but I couldn't see myself doing it in the midst of the NFL season. I even went so far as to research those illegal internet feeds of games, but I only found software for PCs, and I have a Mac. Now that the season is winding down, I'm considering it again and might just confront the problem again in the fall.

Also, there is value to seeing the shows at the broadcast time. If I don't make that appointment television, I'll put it off too long, have to worry about running into spoilers on the internet, etc. I guess you can ask: Why didn't I make the time to watch it if it was that important? That's a valid point, but I tend to do a lot of other time-suck, brain-wasters that end up supplanting it if I'm not careful. Also, with the big event television, the sites don't post the stream until the next day, and then I have to spend an entire day avoiding my favorite websites for fear of aforementioned spoilers.

The other issue is that - like many people above - I just love having the background buzz. I like using it as a supplement to my internet surfing. I like being able to flip on the news and absorb it at half-attention. I like having access to syndicated reruns of certain shows. I enjoy going to sleep to the television if for no other reason than it inspires cool, random dreams. Flipping on the television is just such a fixture for me that I don't know what I'd do without it. (Read?!?!?!?)

Finally, I enjoy being in the know - particularly given my proximity to the industry and any hopes I have of being a writer - so it helps to have the easy access to the television's noise.

But I'm not a rich man. In fact, I'm bordering on destitute these days. So, I gotta do something. I was thinking about seeing if I could get a better deal on the DirectTV or FiOS. I'm going to go back and read the thread, but I'm open to suggestions if there isn't enough useful insight therein.

Posted by: DarthCorleone at January 22, 2010 4:54 PM

I'm curous what all of you who have given up cable do for your news fix? Sports I don't care about, but I'd really mix CNN, MSNBC, etc.

Posted by: twigged at January 22, 2010 5:00 PM

Figgy, while they don't have full episodes, The Soup has their own youtube channel where they post the best clips each week.

Posted by: Koolickle at January 22, 2010 5:00 PM

O.k. Read all your comments. I'm gonna look into a convertor box to pick up the network channels, find a new internet provider, and kill the cable after the Super Bowl. It's really time I moved on from the mindless television surfing anyway.

Posted by: DarthCorleone at January 22, 2010 5:02 PM

We cancelled our Direct TV subscription on June 8, 2009. We were only using it to watch Breaking Bad House, Mad Men and Nip/Tuck. Being the resident computer genius, I learned how to hook up my MacBook Pro to the composite input of my vcr, which serves as a video switcher for four video sources. Once in a while, we'll stream a movie from Netflix, which is getting inundated with good new content, like the Criterion Collection.

Posted by: Peter L. Winkler at January 22, 2010 5:05 PM

As a poor college student who is more than somewhat tech-savvy, dropping cable was a obvious choice. For half the cost of the college Comcast deal, I can download all the HD episodes I want over uTorrent networks with a minimal time delay from airing.

And don't get snippy with me about rights. I have bought the DVDs for almost every TV season I've ever watched digitally. Except Merlin. That s**t is atrocious.

Given that my monitor supports higher definition than my TV at the moment (720p or better vs NOT HD) there's really no reason for me to even re-encode the MKVs into something my media server can handle. (blah blah if you want to watch things on a real television blah blah technospeak)

I don't really do the whole sports thing though, and I've always preferred getting my news in print (Totally anachronistic, I know) so I didn't have those to deal with that loss, but really, do you want to watch all those irritating pundits?

There's probably still an argument to me made for television, particularly if you want to watch anything not currently in prime-time. But if money is an issue, then watching the boobtube online has never been easier.

Posted by: Lyrinoir at January 22, 2010 5:51 PM

It's a good theory but wouldn't work for us. We dig the mindless Food Network every now and again, as well as Discovery and TLC. Plus sports. I could totally rid myself of the networks if football went to an On Demand pricing without regional restrictions. I'd just catch up on 24 and the NBC shows when the box sets hit. It's a nice dream.

Posted by: TylerDFC at January 22, 2010 6:04 PM

If the NFL network gets its shit together and broadcasts all the games every weekend, then I could consider it, but without NFL Sunday Ticket, I would weep blood.

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at January 22, 2010 6:56 PM

What? No True Blood on HBO? Im not giving up on cabl there is only one computer and 5 tv sets here

Posted by: Candy at January 22, 2010 7:43 PM

People who watch sports get particularly hosed, I think. With all the various deals the teams and the leagues have going on, I don't think sports fans will ever get their shit inexpensively, if they want to be able to watch more than one or two games a week. And it affects the rest of us too, because ESPN is the most expensive channel on cable. If I'm remembering correctly, Disney gets something like $3 per subscriber for ESPN, they won't agree to put ESPN on a "premium" tier (because they want to be available to as many households as possible), so we pay for that even if we never watch it.

Basically, the cable companies and the "content providers" fight over which one of them gets to screw us harder. They don't really care about providing a good service, they just want the money.

Posted by: Slash at January 22, 2010 8:17 PM

Here's my solution: I downgraded to basic cable two months ago (in other words, just the broadcast networks plus **ooh la la** WGN). I had realized that I was spending $40 a month to watch 2 shows on USA, 2 shows on A&E and 1 show on TNT (now two shows). And those shows don't run year round. It's not a problem for me to watch those shows online, or maybe purchase occasionally on iTunes. I don't miss the additional choices. I might occasionally buy a series on DVD that I wouldn't have before, but I'm still ahead cost-wise. If there was an alternative to basic cable ($24/month) such as an antenna or the new digital receivers, I would also do that. Unfortunately, I live in a mountainous, tree-filled area with no options for antenna viewing...and by the way, only one cable company. When I downgraded, the cable company asked my reason, and I said firmly, "the lack of a la carte choices." An "expanded basic" package just doesn't make sense unless you are a sports fan. You know what's even more stupid? I can't even add just HBO or Showtime from my cable company, even if I had stayed with expanded basic. I would have had to upgrade to a premium package. That's just stupid, and it's got to mean lost revenue for HBO and Showtime.

Posted by: Dudleys Mom at January 22, 2010 8:19 PM

I've been thinking about cutting the cable for awhile. I love tv, but half the time I can't find anything to watch on my overpriced Comcast package. This was the kick in the pants that I needed. After figuring out that 90% of the shows I like are on network tv and therefore free anyway (and all the other's online) it was an obvious choice. Comcast wasn't too happy about it though ...

Posted by: Ktkat at January 22, 2010 8:47 PM

I have a dedicated pc running MediaPortal and WinXP w/ a remote hooked to a 32" LCD and almost 900GB of content. We have cable because we get it bundled with our phone and Internet service, but we turn it on only when just grazing content and we're unwilling to make a choice ourselves on what to watch.

When the service package runs out, I expect to can the cable and keep the other two - they're worth it, the TV signal ain't.

Posted by: idiosynchronic at January 22, 2010 8:48 PM

Give me my HGTV and my Spice Network and I’m happier than a defrocked priest in a gay pride parade at Disney World.

Posted by: Orrin Hatch at January 22, 2010 9:51 PM

I'm a college student, and in my current apartment, we don't have a TV and I don't see the need for one. I am never home at the times that my favorite shows are on, so I prefer to watch them online or just wait until the DVDs are on Netflix. There's something to be said for not having TV to watch all the time. I am definitely more productive and it's quieter around here. Also I like watching shows that were on TV a while ago and I never saw. We already pay $45 a month for cable internet, and I find it ridiculous to even think about shelling out for cable.

Dustin, your analysis is great. Everyone who owns a TV should read it; maybe then things would change in the cable industry.

Posted by: Harlequin at January 22, 2010 9:57 PM

I'm a college student, and in my current apartment, we don't have a TV and I don't see the need for one. I am never home at the times that my favorite shows are on, so I prefer to watch them online or just wait until the DVDs are on Netflix. There's something to be said for not having TV to watch all the time. I am definitely more productive and it's quieter around here. Also I like watching shows that were on TV a while ago and I never saw. We already pay $45 a month for cable internet, and I find it ridiculous to even think about shelling out for cable.

Dustin, your analysis is great. Everyone who owns a TV should read it; maybe then things would change in the cable industry.

Posted by: Harlequin at January 22, 2010 10:04 PM

I find watching things on DVD/Blu Ray when they come out infinitely more convenient than paying for any subscription TV service. I can watch them in my own time, whenever I want, without ads; I can watch one episode then take a break from it for a week or two, or I can watch twelve episodes in a row.

Also, I don't especially care about staying up to speed with current shows (here in Australia our cable TV service doesn't keep up with US broadcast anyway), so I save even more money by just buying things when they're on special (or renting them when they become cheap weeklies). I recently caught up on The Office (US) because of an Amazon sale. I'm about to grab S2 of Mad Men for the same reason.

Life is good.

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Posted by: Lucy at January 22, 2010 11:53 PM

I've done without TV for years at a time, and not been the least unhappy about it. But, I think that overall, if I'm going to watch TV, I like the variety or potential of stumbling across something I've never seen, maybe never even heard of, and finding that gem in the pile. And, cost wise, unfortnuately for me, that gem is most often not where I'd look for it, it comes up in the flipping of channels at just the right time. Never consistently on the same channel. So, IF I'm watching TV, cable then becomes worth it for me. (yes, I ignore the TV title info and just flip channels, so as not to bias myself in advance) - whether it's a new TV show or a movie that I missed.....sometimes, and yes only sometimes, I find something that makes me glad I have cable.

Posted by: Jane Ellis at January 22, 2010 11:53 PM

Why would people pay for network shows on ITunes when you can get them for free over the air?

I just hooked up an HD antenna to my TV and never looked back.
As for cable shows? I can't stand Hulu or Netflix streaming. It's nothing but choppy,slooow noise filled video.
There are alternatives.

Posted by: Case at January 23, 2010 1:05 AM

We gave up cable a few months ago and I thought my life would be dreadful. Not so! Everything I need and then some is available online either through Hulu or NinjaVideo and I love my Instant Netflix. We now pay $45 a month for internet and $10 for Netflix. It's kind of awesome. Plus, our digital cable was always spazzy, especially the On Demand stuff. It got to the point where I was turning in a circle three times and chanting to get a show to start, just because it was equally as effective as hitting the OK button repeatedly.
Even if we suddenly started making more money, I probably wouldn't get cable again. I'm done with it.

Posted by: MyySharona (formerly Sharon) at January 23, 2010 1:29 AM

I was just reading today one man's opinion why ala carte won't work:

newyorker.com/talk/financial/2010/01/25/100125ta_talk_surowiecki

That's not unique to the cable industry, BTW. Trying buying a new car where you just want automatic transmission for $700 and not the "automatic transmission package" for $3,000. Good luck.

Posted by: , at January 23, 2010 1:52 AM

Currently, I don't have cable but I really miss it. I grew up watching endless amounts of mindless TV and I think I'm the better for it. Most of what I know, I learned from TV. And it wasn't because I was watching a handful of carefully selected programs. I watched EVERYTHING.

Now, I just watch Modern Family and the NBC Thursday night lineup on Hulu (Dustin's really missing out on Parks and Rec, by the way). On Sundays, I find online streams for football.

I haven't decided what I'm going to do about baseball when it comes around (I'm a diehard Oakland A's fan and usually watch 90% of the games. They used to be on network tv, but now they have an exclusive TV deal with Comcast). I've been thinking about MLB.tv (which means I could only watch away games because home games would be blacked out), coughing up for Comcast (least likely, fuck you Comcast!), or becoming a radio listener (has some old school charm). Not sure yet.

At some point, I'd like to get cable again. What I miss most is catching Seinfeld every night at 11PM, or casually running across an old Cosby/All in the Family/Cheers episode. I miss the joyful surprise of accidentally catching one of your favorite shows. I've tried watching some of these older shows on DVD, and they don't hold their same allure. It's probably because the episodes on those shows tended be more self-contained and most modern shows have storylines that run throughout the entire season.

So, I don't have cable, but I really wish I did. In the immortal words of Sting, "I want my MTV."

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Posted by: Brad at January 23, 2010 6:10 AM

Holy moly, y'all are being shafted. That's an insane amount of money. I guess I'll stop complaining about my BBC license fee. (£135.50 I think.) Though I probably won't in all honesty.

I know no one cares about the UK deal since it has no bearing on whether you'd cancel, but damn it I want to join in too. We pay £35 a month for tv and internet through Virgin, and since I share with two others it's obviously less than that. We do have to wait a bit for your shows to make it over here (or we find other ways, ahem) but it's only a few months usually and then they run all the way through with no hiatus or whatever it is.

I would love to be able to choose channels properly though. It's kinda disgusting that you can only buy groups of channels full of shit you'd never watch. But providers know what they're doing there.

Posted by: Carrie at January 23, 2010 8:53 AM

Having said that there's currently nothing on the tv right now unless I want to watch Wife Swap USA. Which I don't.

Posted by: Carrie at January 23, 2010 8:56 AM

Thanks to whoever posted the New Yorker article (didn't see a name). Well written and very insightful points about the current tactics in the industry when programmers and operators are have price wars.

Posted by: prairiegirl at January 23, 2010 9:44 AM

I actually did the math just last year. If I got the 20 channels (max) that I watch regularly and paid $2 per each a month, I'd save $60 every month.

Most of the sports are either on network TV OR available online for free/"free"/a fee. Take the savings and invest on a sweet PC with a nice, flatscreen LCD monitor and you're in better shape than most folks 20 years ago.

Not to mention that, unless you're on vacation or out of work, you're not spending that much time in front of the TV. Even then, I spend much more time online, whether reading or playing.

And that's the crux of it. Our viewing habits have changed. We don't watch things live by and large -- we DVR/Tivo them. We buy them on iTunes or catch them on Hulu.

Smart networks are adapting. HBO and TNT have their "Overtime" features for popular shows, which allow you to get original content not on TV. Many sports leagues offer live games streamed as part of any TV package you buy.

But don't expect some blowback from the people who have a vested interest in the status quo.

Posted by: Fredo at January 23, 2010 10:58 AM

Figgy, Koolickle - if you want to pay you can get The Soup on iTunes

Posted by: Arib at January 23, 2010 12:03 PM

I had free cable for two years because comcast was too lazy to send anyone to disconnect it after I cancelled. I watched far too much television, mostly things I didn't even like. When I moved a few months ago I decided to cut the cord. I don't have a converter for network, and my only internet is on my phone. I can stream in theory, but without advertisements telling me what I need to watch, I don't even think of streaming things. I have netflix, and sometimes order tv on dvd.

I don't miss it even the slightest bit. I've finally caught up on the movies i've wanted to watch, done a lot more reading, and listen to my music much more. I get news from npr. I spend time with real, live people and get things done around the house. My life is infinitely richer with no television in it, and I pay very little per month--my regular phone bill, and netflix. As far as I can see, there's no reason to go back.

Posted by: Codger at January 23, 2010 9:06 PM

you can get all your tv (including sports and ppvs) over the internet, here's how:
-use surfthechannel.com to get all your shows streaming, i use the "downloadhelper" add on for firefox to grab the shows that take to long to buffer (most shows buffer fast but some chinese servers are slow, so download the stream instead of waiting)
-use torrent sites (like thepiratebay.org) to get high quality versions of your shows, this is the easiest way to watch your tv because EVERYTHING eventually ends up in torrent form somewhere.
-get either a TVUplayer or a SOPcast player (both are free, just google them). this is the software that GI's use when overseas to watch their ppv's (ufc, boxing, wrestling...) live as they air without having to pay. i use the MMAtv channel ALOT.

there's a lot more ways, but these are the easiest so far. all you really need is an internet connection, downloadhelper for firefox, a TVU or SOPcast player, and if you're too stupid to figure those out (they're easy)then just get a torrent client like utorrent (for pc) or toaster (for mac) and download what you missed from one of the million or so torrent trackers out there. i haven't had cable for over 2 years, and have yet to miss a show or PPV once. just be smarter then the average cable customer, only pay for your internet connection.

Posted by: daddypants at January 24, 2010 3:23 AM

Cable costs that much? Wow.

I have a bog-standard UK satellite subscription. That means I have a helluva lot of channels, but not HD, Sky+(TIVO), sports channels, broadband, phone or movie channels. My basic package costs £22 a month ($36). But if I wanted to upgrade to all of the aforementioned bells and whistles, it would only cost me £58 a month - under $100.
I think you lot are being ripped off just a tad.

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Posted by: seeklove at January 25, 2010 3:49 AM

No Hulu in Canada, and they don't show tennis in sports bars around here, so it's cable all the way for me. Plus I don't fancy sitting in my office after dinner watching reruns on the computer. The day they bring in a la carte I'll be the happiest bitch alive.

Posted by: Hybrid at January 25, 2010 9:14 AM

I would GLADLY drop my DirectTV sattilite service, except for one problem... The NFL has an exclusive aggreement with DirectTV for the "NFL sunday ticket" package, so DirectTV is the ONLY way to see ALL out of market football games.

(DirectTV lets you watch all NFL games online if you buy the "superfan package" but you can'y get that service unless you already have: DirectTV service, HD service, and the NFL sunday ticket package........ lame)

I hate you DirectTV

Posted by: e at January 25, 2010 4:10 PM

well i have comcast "subbasic cable and hsi for 56 dollars a month and 13.13 for cable +42.95 for internet but you out there who plan on using netflix in place of cable beware because more and more internet service providers are placing caps on the amount of data you can download or upload and for example Frontier has 5GB monthly cap on their services and after that they can bill you for overages or shut you off although they are not doing it yet they have that option as it is in their Residential Internet Acceptable Use Policy http://www.frontier.com/policies/residential_aup/
so if you were to download a high def dvd movie that would amount to about 5GB and then at that point you would be going over your quota so my point is that relying on the interent to replace your cable will only work for so long as more and more internet service providers are placing caps and limits on the amount of what you can download.....

Posted by: terry treakle at January 25, 2010 10:06 PM

Thats fine when you only consider yourself, Dustin, but how about after factoring your wife and kid(s)?

Posted by: L.O.V.E. at January 26, 2010 2:19 AM

If you think cable bills are high now, you haven't seen anything if ala carte was available. Your bill wouldn't go down and you would have fewer choices.

Then again, other than HGTV, Food Network, and DIY, niche channels don't exist anymore anyway as the major networks like USA, TNT, TBS, TV Land, etc all look alike and CMT jumped the shark years ago.

Posted by: Jason at February 16, 2010 4:34 PM