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It's so cute when the kids try and talk with the grown-ups. Let's just tell them to go, put on their pajamas, brush their teeth and get to bed. Grown folk are talking.

People have to respect people for being born a certain way that was completely out of their control?!?!

The nerve of those gays...

Just for fun, let's change to another group of people who have no control over in what condition they are born (which is, well, every-fucking-body).

"they insist that non-[mentally handicapped peoply] must respect [mentally handicapped people], listen to what [mentally handicapped people] say and never, ever voice our own impressions of them."

Oh wait, I forgot, gay people choose to be gay. I'll never remember the day I chose to be straight. It was a tough decision. In the end, I weighed the pros and cons and decided that I'd like to be straight.

In an amazing coincidence, I had just finished reading about this on the Talk Entertainment Showbusiness site when I clicked here. I thought it was stupid and overreacting, and Dustin just proved my point.

Woah? Who stereotypes Southerners as “toothless, in-bred sister-humpers”?
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Oh, come on. Like this never happens.

"Woah? Who stereotypes Southerners as “toothless, in-bred sister-humpers”?"

I do! And I'm native Texan and proud of it!

There is no more vile and slimy a person than Andrew Breitbart. When I watch him speak, my skin crawls. Afterwords, I always have to shower and throw up.

We all think it’s weird when we hear of Mormons or Amish who’ve left and how they are ostracized by the group, even their own families, how they lose jobs or lose business. How is this any different?

How the hell is Mormons ostracizing those that leave their faith the same as people calling out Ratner for using a discriminating slur? Fall on whichever side of this debate you wish but that's an idiotic comparison.

They are like the muslims

Now I'm sure they're trolling.

As a moderate Republican, I hate people that stereotype me as a backwards hick, but I hate the people that force them to.

OK, apparently he was super liberal in the 70's, but I doubt he's going to say he shouldn't have been in that movie either.

Although I know they exist, I never think of the typical Republican as a backwards hick. You find pockets of fierce Republican opposition in many so-called "hick" areas. In my personal experience, typical Republicans are well-to-do and very well educated, and believe me they are the far more dangerous kind.
Also, with respect maka, there was a time when the term "moderate Republican" meant something. Mr. PaddyDog was one back in the day. But surely anyone with moderate politics is by now so incensed by what the GOP has turned into that you have become an Independent? There is no room for moderation, fiscal or otherwise, in that party anymore.

"And never ever forget that Leftist Hollywood has celebrated, defended and bestowed honors upon a craven piece of scum who drugged, raped and sodomized a 13 year-old girl."

I sense a new corollory to Godwin's Law.

But seriously, I love my family, I love visiting them, but The South can just... go somewhere.

I experience quite a bit of variety here (in Arkansas). I've seen pride for ignorance and blatant racism and whatnot, but I also surround myself with friends who are thoughtful and intelligent people. I've lived here my entire life except for a couple of months last year, so I can't comment on other areas of this country. However, I've heard there is just as much racism in other places, but it's just more out in the open down here.

I do not condone or condemn Big Hollywood's article. However, it does raise interesting points but it is poorly executed.

Remember, kids, it's bad to call people out on their bullshit if someone who works in the same area code as you subscribes to a different and unrelated line of bullshit. Wait, what?

Rowles, you and the rest of the hypocrites around here can’t be taking seriously when you give Ratner a free pass but Isaiah Washington had to lose his job and go stand before GLAAD and beg for forgiveness. Just like Tracy Morgan damn near had to go on an apology tour just to keep his job. But Ratner uses a derogatory word to describe gays and you try to defend him from the backlash.

"Woah? Who stereotypes Southerners as “toothless, in-bred sister-humpers”?"

I do, but I live in Arkansas...

Disgusting fucknut.

It's just awful how Big Hollywood turned this into another stupid, name-calling tribal war, peddling red meat to their followers.

On a related note, thanks for reminding me of my superiority to people I disagree with. Aren't they just awful?

The world and its mutterings have been upsetting me greatly the past couple days.

On the off chance anyone that treats this Big Hollywood post as some sort of profoundly sage wisdom also reads my comment here, then I would say the following.

Let's assume this is a case of hypocrisy. So what? Does pointing out some sort of double standard mean that you have "won"? What follows? Does your "victory" make what Ratner said any less wrong? Why don't you demonstrate that you are the bigger person and not sling what you consider to be the mud back?

I'm sick of broad strokes and the need to couch every single argument as a strict dichotomy. Why don't you have a real conversation with a sensible liberal? There are plenty of them here, including myself in my opinion.

I'll admit I think Sarah Palin is not bright at all, but I've never wished physical harm to her or her family.

I'm from the South, and I love the South. I have more than enough conservative friends from that part of the country to have learned that I should always give people the benefit of the doubt, in spite of our philosophical differences.

One offhand stupid remark from Susan Sarandon does not speak for all of liberal-dom, but if you don't recognize the deep, serious, systemic problems of the Catholic Church that might inspire such a knee-jerk remark in the first place, then we'll just have to agree to disagree.

Roman Polanski (perhaps the new candidate for Godwin's Law indeed!) has made some good films, but I've always fully supported his facing the justice system as he should have years ago. Wow - did I just blow your mind? I'm a liberal, and I even work in the movie industry!

Broaden your perspective, and stop acting like politics is your high school pep rally.

So is Pajiba still a movie/tv site or is it now a gay rights site? I can't tell any more.

Why can't we be both, Mike? -- DR

Actually, no. (I take back the "genius" thing.)

Agenda-mongering always overtakes good thinking, good writing and good times until you become BigHollywood. Along with the corollary to Godwin's Law (which I +1), I propose another interwebism:

"Going Full Breitbart" - In agenda-journalism, the terminal state of mental pretzelization required to warp every damn thing into an example of your favorite obsession. In short, the terminal state when your brain is as twisted as your knickers

See also - Rebecca Watson, Rachel Maddow, Glenn Beck

Contrast with - "To Go Full Branson"

I think Breitbart might be slipping into the throes of liver poisoning. Too much booze. Sad, really.

Anyway, as someone living in the South (specifically Florida) I have actually encountered people with no teeth. Methamphetamine, unemployment and no insurance will do that. I haven't personally encountered any incestuous people, although I'm assured that Alabama's full of them. Isn't it interesting that if you go look for a stereotype, the best example's always elsewhere?

I try very hard not to generalize (although I do slip, mea culpa) or use slurs or epithets. Again, I'm human and fallible, so mistakes get made.

Ratner, though, is a bad director or bad movies. He doesn't get a pass from me for loutish behavior or speech.

For once I would like to make a comment without being cursed at. I did not say anything vile to anyone in this thread. We can disagree with each other and still be respectable, that’s what grown-ups do.

The hollywood left gave Roman Polanski a free pass

Everyone who works in a certain town and votes for a certain half of the political candidates available has a single, monolithic opinion on a completely unrelated issue? News to me.

Nice deflection, Pookie. Way to try to paint yourself as the victim. No one cursed at you, you goof. We came down on you because, to be blunt, you were incorrect. Wrong. You misread the entire article and took Dustin to task for something he never said. How about you just own that, and we can move on, OK?

I'm pretty sure that using the Ratner (shrimp grease!!) brouhaha isn't the best jumping off point for BigHollywood to make a point about liberal Hollywood's hypocrisy. However, quoting the fucking COMMENTS SECTION as supporting evidence of Breitbart's wing-nuttery, is, I would like to think, beneath the journalistic standards of a movie blog's snarker-in-chief. Should Pajiba be judged by (insert your favorite unbalanced Pajiba commenter here)?

So that's what this is? An attempt to make it ok to say what they want about any group? That it's ok because they, as a group, feel put upon?

I wanted to say something funny and biting, but all I can think is: "Grow the fuck up"

@Matthew Shay - If being called a wingnut is going to hurt your feelings, then this is probably not the site for you, eventually you'll get called something much, much worse. But if you can deal with the occasional foray into conservative-baiting that the staff (and many a commenter) likes to indulge in from time to time, you'll find a stimulating arena where the vulgar collides with the intellectual. Pajiba is a crucible where reason, discernment, critical thinking, fucknuttery, and TK are all forged together to create a Fist of Power that punches douchbaggery, mediocrity, and meh in the nose.

@R.I.P. "... the subtleties of history, the events that happen, and how they tie in to culture."

To me, that is the echo of the opening of every Confederacy and their slave-based economy apologist's rant.

But just so you know. Except for my six years in the Air Force (Of which 3 years were spent stationed in Texas) and my subsequent post-graduate studies at Colorado State. I have lived my entire life in Louisiana. And I must say, I respectfully disagree with your mother. The overall attitudes, racism, ignorance, political leanings and religious intolerance that pervade most of the South as well as it's courtesies, varied cultural backgrounds, and traditions are well at home in Texas. There are some superficial differences but our commonalities, historical and otherwise, far outweigh those.

P.S.
LSU 9: Bama 6.
I won't suggest you "suck on that" because that would be ungentleman-like.

Denying the cultural influences and histories of the region and how they've impacted the residents is a mistake. Characterizing that as apologist is too.

I was born in Texas. My family is from Louisiana. My uncle was the sheriff of my mom's hometown of Carencro. I loved the man like anyone would. He was cool and kind and had a cool farm and his kids, my cousins, were great to visit and hang with, but he was still an older white man in the Deep South. He used to show us his nightstick, which wasn't the light, wooden nightstick most people are familiar with, it was a heavy thing wrapped in braided lead. He called it his "nigger stick". My grandfather had a black guy who would mow his yard. He called him "his nigger". He hung out with him and considered him a friend, but I doubt he called him that to his face. The movie "A Family Thing" is a good treatise in southern racism. It's not so much pervasive hate (even though it's all couched in hate), as much as it is kneejerk, almost like redneck comfort food. It's easier to wish for the old days when the roles were clearer than it is to compromise and accommodate.

This was in the 70's and I'm sure things have softened, but more often the racism is just hidden, not spoken in public as often, unless the crowd is 'friendly' to those kind of things. I'm not saying everyone in the south is racist, but it's woven into so much of the social fabric there, that it's going to take longer than just one or two generations for major improvement and it will clearly never be eradicated completely. I don't apologize for this reality, only point it out.

And Texas is no damn different, I don't care how dear it is to you. I'd remind you that James Byrd was dragged to death in Texas.