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If Zack Snyder Were Paid In Internet Opinions, Sucker Punch Would've Opened with $100 Million

By Dustin Rowles | Posted Under Box Office Round-Ups | Comments (20)



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Zack Snyder’s Sucker Punch opened with a hugely disappointing (at least from the studio’s perspective) $19 million over the weekend, falling $5 million short of the top film, Diary of the Wimpy Kid 2, which earned back its budget in the first weekend. Sucker Punch, much like Scott Pilgrim vs. the World last year, is turning into that movie that everyone wants to talk about that, relatively speaking, no one has actually seen. It has been fun to read, though: For a film that opened with the same box-office that No Strings Attached opened with, people feel awfully strong about their opinions. In the movie-blog Twitterverse, it’s turned into a pissing match — there’s a lot of name-calling, and everyone insists that their opinion is the right one, to the detriment of everyone else. (Obviously, only one opinion can be right, and it’s TK’s, of course).

Seriously, though: It’s opened up a lot of debate about fanboys and feminism, which is refreshing, even if that debate clearly goes over Zack Snyder’s own head. Snyder thinks that fanboys hate it because his “feminist” angle is an “indictment of fan boys,” while I get the feeling that the fanboys who do hate it hate it because it’s not a very good film. From some of the interviews I’ve read, I’m also not entirely sure that Zack Snyder knows what a “metaphor” is or why dressing a woman in a school-girl outfit, calling her Babydoll, and dropping her in a brothel might not be perceived the way in which he wanted it to be perceived.

In either respect, it’s been interesting gauging opinion around the Internet on Sucker Punch, from Angie Han’s piece (Why Ass-Kicking and Empowering Aren’t Always the Same Thing) to Cole Abaius’ Empowerment and Exploitation of ‘Sucker Punch’ Are in the Gaze of the Beholder, as well as a few — what I thought were misguided — defenses of the film. And some have to be wondering, as Christopher Campbell does, Why Men Are Co-Opting the Feminist Debate? I think this piece, posted before the movie came out, seems to capture the argument fairly well.

In either respect, from a box-office standpoint, after the poor performance of Sucker Punch, on the heels of the disappointing showings of Watchmen and Legend of the Guardians: The Owls of Ga’Hoole, Warner Brothers has to be concerned with their Superman reboot. Snyder’s name is becoming perilously close in reputation as that of M. Night Shyamalan, the kind of name that might elicit boos in crowded theaters. I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s kicked to the curb, officially or unofficially, in favor of Jonathan Nolan.

Elsewhere in the box-office, both Limitless (-19.5%) and The Lincoln Lawyer (-16.7%) had very small drops from last week, holding well as adult-oriented fare continues its rebound at the box office. Rango, meanwhile, landed at number five with another $10 million, pushing it over $100 million.









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Comments

I don't know that Snyder is yet on Night's level. I do think that he's going to get a sterner producing hand overseeing Superman and whatever his next few projects are. He seems, like many kids, to veer wildly off plot and into whatever tangent intrigues him.

Posted by: Fredo at March 28, 2011 12:09 PM

Man, I like Snyder. I do. I enjoyed Watchmen, I loved 300 and Dawn of the Dead, and even found myself pleasurably immersed in the fantasy of warring owls. And Sucker Punch. It was a visual orgy; fun to watch but void of any emotion.

On the one hand I think the images and action he could bring to the Superman franchise would be -- well, nothing short of perfect. But on the other, I worry that he might entirely fail to capture the soul of the characters, which is always what the story should be about first. And those characters are very important to me (I'm not "super"asente for no reason, people).

I guess I'm hoping they keep him, but I won't be dissapointed if he's out. I'm sure he'll find a lucrative career directing music videos if he's no longer able to make films.

Posted by: superasente at March 28, 2011 12:10 PM

I'm not usually one to criticize other people's thoughts on a film, but I think the argument that, "Zach Snyder is bla bla bla feminist," can really only be believed and argued by Caucasian men. The whole idea that he's treating women here the same way he treated men in 300, hence, he's treating men and women on equal footing is fundamentally flawed. You can't treat men and women EXACTLY the same in this kind of film. You cant just dismiss context and cultural history.

Posted by: Will at March 28, 2011 12:11 PM

Good god, Emily Browning needs to stop doing her ScarJo impression. Close your damn mouth for at least ONE picture, girl.

...I guess that advice doesn't really go with the vacant-eyed-hooker-with-guns image, though it does make the infantilization of her sexuality way creepier.

Posted by: nosio at March 28, 2011 12:26 PM

Dressing a woman in a school-girl outfit, calling her Babydoll, and dropping her in a brothel . . .

NOOOOOO!!! Dustin activated Roman Polanski's Bat-Signal!!! He'll be here any minute!

Okay, okay. What do we do? What the fuck do we do?!?! Okay, wait. Right. First, hide your daughters. Second, close every school in the world. Third, shut down all international airports and seaports. Fourth, alert the UN so they can invade someone. And last, don't panic. We need to help each other in this crisis, people. You panic, you get raped. Good luck!

Posted by: Kballs at March 28, 2011 12:30 PM

DEAR HOLLYWOOD:

Your formulae are worn out and your schtick is transparent. I hope you sink to a slow, agonizing death for settling for less, the LCD, and of course using the same old social format regardless of decade. Your influence is culturally disproportionate with the overall good you contribute. And your lionized "heroes" are weak fucking skeletal structures on which faces are hung.

Until this changes, I will be spectating your painful deterioration.

But you won't heed this; you'll get while the getting is good and get out while you still can, because that's what half-assed, superficial Americans do. Enjoy your clique-fucked existence.

Posted by: Recondite at March 28, 2011 12:34 PM

I agree that it's a little too early to start drawing the M. Night comparisons. I still think people's expectations for the "Watchmen" box office numbers were way too high. As iconic a comic it is, it is still something that is primarily embraced and beloved by comic geeks. It's not something like Spider-Man, Superman, Batman or even the X-Men that people grew up being aware of, whether it be through comics, cartoons, TV shows, etc.

Throw in the violence, the long running time, the R rating and complete lack of any star power, I think $185 million worldwide is pretty damn impressive.

I liked "300" and his "Dawn of The Dead." Still haven't seen the Owl movie and the reviews for "Sucker Punch" are pretty much exactly what I expected. It looked like a hot, though interesting at times, mess.

The one thing Superman has going for it, is that Snyder seems to be a lot better when working with someone else's property.

Posted by: Forbiddendonut at March 28, 2011 12:35 PM

I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s kicked to the curb, officially or unofficially, in favor of Jonathan Nolan.

YES. Keep him around to draw pretty pictures for you and think up some fancy action scenes, but don't let that clown get anywhere near a script or a camera.

Posted by: figgy at March 28, 2011 12:36 PM

...the vacant-eyed-hooker-with-guns image, though it does make the infantilization of her sexuality way creepier.

That was a most eloquent and succinct description of all that distresses me about this element of our popular culture: violent sexualized pseudo-children.

Posted by: Mrs. Julien at March 28, 2011 12:58 PM

Kballs comment kind of frightened me, kind of maybe crossed the line.

I'm so glad he's back.

Posted by: Mrs. Julien at March 28, 2011 1:03 PM

the campbell article talks about the feminist nature of women "reappropriating sex as a weapon". this movie is sending out waves of retardation. what in hell does that even mean? should sex be a weapon in any sense? is it desirable, healthy? do characters named babydoll who men tuck away in asylums so they can be dressed up as sex toys and abused represent some kind of female reappropriation of sex as a weapon? i haven't seen the film, but do the girls fight using sex, or is it guns? who is weaponized sex being appropriated from? (and for anyone who thinks you can't have an opinion about a flic you haven't seen, I've seen the trailer and stills, and read a bunch of very descriptive reviews. it's sufficient exposure to have a response)

where are people coming up with these pie eyed feminist theories? how much of a mental contortionist does one have to be to build that kind of argument.

I can't decide whether it is more stupid or more offensive. either way it's pretty gross.

Posted by: idleprimate at March 28, 2011 1:07 PM

I agree with idleprimate. Pat Benatar was right.

Posted by: Mrs. Julien at March 28, 2011 1:09 PM

it just suddenly occurred to me that maybe this movie will make a bucket of money, because now people will jostle to rubberneck at a disaster of a spectacle because of all the hoopla in film writing and social media. people will want to see what all the fuss is about; verify for themselves.

sigh. I'm going to go drink now. copiously.

Posted by: idleprimate at March 28, 2011 1:12 PM

idleprimate, I don't think you'll have to worry too much about that. Outside of a few small corners of the internet, I think this film is largely being ignored or sort of laughed at. Taking a step back, I don't think there is really all that much hoopla or buzz about this movie one way or the other. It's like the Snakes On A Plane phenomenon.

This film's box office will drop by 30-40% next weekend and it will be gone from the collective conscience shortly after that.

It's just a blip.

Though there are still plenty of reasons to go drink. copiously.

Posted by: Forbiddendonut at March 28, 2011 1:20 PM

I think it definitely would have been completely glossed over and forgotten if not for Snyder's stupid comments about how the movie is "empowering".

Posted by: figgy at March 28, 2011 2:17 PM

fredo's article on his blog was a pretty interesting reflection on this, uh, film. his name links to his blog

Posted by: idleprimate at March 28, 2011 3:26 PM

I'm just here to say KBalls comment was hysterical and I thank him for it.

Posted by: Jeremy at March 28, 2011 6:30 PM

Sucker Punch looks like fucking shit! I have no idea who the woman that plays the lead is so I don't hate her at all but based on the trailers and commercials of that movie she looks like a really awful actress! The only way I am seeing this movie is it's free, I have seriously nothing to do and (that could be THE reason i end up seeing this thing) I just want to see if it's that bad (i did this twice with the first 2 Spider Man and those movies were more awful than i thought they would be). It happened that I watched movies that I thought would be crap and they weren't but I don't think that'll be the case here!

Posted by: Nancy at March 28, 2011 8:34 PM

Your formulae are worn out and your schtick is transparent. I hope you sink to a slow, agonizing death for settling for less, the LCD, and of course using the same old social format regardless of decade. Your influence is culturally disproportionate with the overall good you contribute. And your lionized "heroes" are weak fucking skeletal structures on which faces are hung.
Until this changes, I will be spectating your painful deterioration.

Posted by: cosplay wigs at April 1, 2011 5:52 AM

yeah,Man, I like Snyder. I do. I enjoyed Watchmen, I loved 300 and Dawn of the Dead, and even found myself pleasurably immersed in the fantasy of warring owls. And Sucker Punch. It was a visual orgy; fun to watch but void of any emotion.
On the one hand I think the images and action he could bring to the Superman franchise would be -- well, nothing short of perfect. But on the other, I worry that he might entirely fail to capture the soul of the characters, which is always what the story should be about first. And those characters are very important to me (I'm not "super"asente for no reason, people).

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