Old School. Biblically Independent.
By Dustin Rowles | News | July 31, 2025
I read two good interviews this morning, one on Variety with Harrison Ford and another on Vulture with Bill Burr. The Ford interview is thoughtful and moving — especially the part where he talks about Michael J. Fox: “He’s very smart, very brave, noble, generous, passionate guy, and an example to all of us, whether we’re facing Parkinson’s or not. You cannot help but recognize how amazing it is to have such grace.” It made me a little misty. I also loved Jason Segel’s story about the scene in season one of Shrinking when Ford’s character gets high on weed gummies:
“I don’t think anybody knew that Harrison could do that,” Segel says. “There was a moment during that episode when he got a giant laugh from the crew, and he walked by me and he whispered in my ear, ‘I knew I was f**king funny.’”
Meanwhile, Burr’s interview is very Bill Burr, for better or worse. I particularly liked the part when he goes off on Ben Shapiro, who called him “woke” after attending one of his shows:
“He doesn’t even know what that word means,” Burr said. “His definition of woke is white liberals’ definition of woke, and they didn’t even know what it was; they just took the word from Black people. That’s the worst thing about our people — not only do we take from other cultures, we don’t even take the time to understand the definition.He went there to be annoyed so he can then have something to talk about and then he can make money off dividing his own country. Those people, it’s treasonous what they do.”
But here’s what really struck me: for all their differences, Ford and Burr seem to agree on one big thing — the real problem in this country is billionaires.
Burr doesn’t hold back. He says billionaires are the “f**king problem” — not just because of their wealth, but because voters believe that electing a billionaire means they’ll suddenly grow a conscience. “That just isn’t the case.” Burr calls out the absurdity of CEOs pulling eight-figure bonuses while employees can’t afford basic dental care.
“If somebody is working 40 hours a week, 160 hours a month, and they can’t make their rent, you’re not paying them enough money. Maybe you should just be worth $900 million. How does a CEO take a f**king eight-figure bonus and none of your employees have dental insurance? They can’t even go out and get a filling.”
Ford’s more measured, but he ends up in the same place. When asked about political division, he blames economic inequality and the forces that benefit from it.
“In politics and in life, you don’t always get what you want, but you get what you get and you don’t get upset. They teach us that in kindergarten, but they also teach you to fight for what you think is right.Now, because we’ve been disaggregated in this way, we’re having a hard time finding commonality. But if you look at the economy, you’ll figure out where the commonality is — it’s where it always was: Rich get richer, and poor get poorer. And that ain’t exactly right.”
Two different men, two different interviews — but both landing on the same truth: the system is rigged, and the billionaires are the ones doing the rigging.
