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"Glee" Review / Dustin Rowles

TV Reviews | May 20, 2009 | Comments (78)


Ryan Murphy, the creator of “Glee” and “Nip/Tuck” before it, has got to be the gayest guy in television right now. Dude is backseat at a rest stop in the middle of nowheregay. Murphy seems completely incapable of creating a show (or directing a movie; see Running with Scissors) without spraying his gay all over the goddamn place. Look at “Nip/Tuck”: It’s ostensibly a show about plastic surgeons running a partnership rife with family dramas, serial killers, drug abuse, and bizarre procedures. But what it’s really about is Sean and Christian’s sweaty man love for one another. Hell, is there a single main character on that show that hasn’t been involved in a gay relationship of some sort at some point during the show? And as for the new Fox show, “Glee”?

How many ways can I say it, folks: Gay.

And thank the Gay Baby Jesus for it. In a network environment that shits out procedurals and lawyers shows like it’s been eating cops on the cob for breakfast, lunch, and dinner, it’s refreshing to finally watch a show infused with a little gay. Sure, you may find a few shows on network TV with gay characters, but there aren’t any shows on NBC, Fox, CBS, or ABC that are actually gay. It’s a shame, too. Because the world needs more gay, goddamnit. We should all own our gay. Take off your tops and show us your gay! Sit on somebody’s shoulders and throw your gay at the stage. You don’t have to be an uphill gardener to fly your gay flag, people. Fly it proud. Sorry homosexuals, but you guys don’t have the market cornered anymore. There’s enough gay to go around. And just because some of us prefer a nice pair of breasts and the soft touch of a woman doesn’t mean we can’t be a little gay. Gayness is not just a sexual orientation. Gayness, like Whiteness, doesn’t necessarily have anything to do with one’s love of penis. It’s a state of mind, folks. Ironically, being gay is about removing that dick from your ass and loosening up a bit; it’s about getting some enjoyment out of things that aren’t football or geek-related. It’s about appreciating the beauty of life, diving into it, and grabbing it by its balls. It’s about flair. And drama. And overreacting. And hating yourself just a little bit afterward.

And it’s about the fucking Glee Club performing the most heart-stopping version of Journey’s “Don’t Stop Believin’” that you have ever heard.

If you passed up on the opportunity to see Fox’s new show, “Glee,” last night just because you knew what it was about (a high school Glee Club) or because it came on after “American Idol” (who can blame you?), then you missed one of the best hour-long drama pilots since “Friday Night Lights,” (another irony: “FNL” is a macho tearjerker, the perfect show for straight men who want to let out a little of that repressed gay building up inside). But don’t worry — the next episode of the show won’t air again until the Fall, so you have all summer to catch the pilot online. And you should. Because, it’s association with the Fox network notwithstanding, it’s a great goddamn show.

Set in Midwestern Ohio, “Glee” stars the fauxmo Broadway star, Matthew Morrison, who plays the winsome Will Shuester, a dedicated and devoted teacher and a former member of a high-school glee club national championship team who wants nothing more than to resurrect the crumbling school’s performance choir, a landfill for rejects, losers, and dorks. The catch? Belonging to the Glee Club means immediate ostracization, which makes it difficult to Will to recruit any talent. Also, all of the school’s attention (and budget) is dedicated to the football and cheerleading squads, hog-tying Will’s hands behind his back, ball-gag firmly in place (Medieval gay. Love it!). Will does manage, however, through some clever blackmail to coerce the high-school quarterback, Finn, to join Glee Club, where he discovers the gay boy deep down inside. The glee club also features Rachel (another Broadway star, Lea Michele), the most talented of the bunch, the product of two (gay) dads and a turkey baster, but who spends too much of her time trying to find stardom on her Myspace page. There’s also the teenage soul singer, the homosexual kid with a hell of a falsetto, and even the show’s Martha Dumptruck, a nerdy McLovin in a wheelchair.

There’s also some teacher politics involved — Jane Lynch is the hilariously acid-tongued, ball-busting cheerleading coach (essentially, reprising her role from Role Models), and a cleanliness obsessed guidance counselor (Jayma Mays) who has a crush on Will. Will, however, is married to a soul-crushing shrew (Jessalyn Gilsig), who wants him to give up teaching and his low-paying dreams and go into accounting to better support their eventual family and her Pottery Barn habit.

And yes: It does all sound a little cliché — it’s a classic high-school underdog story about rising up above the idiotic caste system and eventually triumphing over the popular kids. But it works. It works because it’s fueled by an amazing level of energy, a wry sense of humor, clever writing, and the occasionally authentic touching moment. “Glee” is full of eccentricities, but it doesn’t belabor them. It’s a solid show built around characters and not situations, bouncing along with verve and raw emotion, rooting itself in well-worn themes, but bringing new life to them. And though it’s about a glee club (one that can rock out with its clam out), it’s mostly about how cool owning your uncoolness can be. Which is to say: It’s gay. And goddamnit: It’s proud of it.

Dustin Rowles is the publisher of Pajiba. You can email him or leave a comment below.


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Comments

Is it ok if you missed Glee because you were getting your gay on at the Elton John/Billy Joel Face 2 Face tour? [fuck, I'm old!]

Posted by: anikitty at May 20, 2009 4:07 PM

Hear, hear! Just watched it on Hulu after reading the fall lineup and even Mr. TS moseyed over to watch the climactic performance (our first dance was to Journey *tear*). However, I'm not sure about this:

Glee Club means immediate ostracization

Ostracism, perhaps?

Posted by: TryScience at May 20, 2009 4:11 PM

Now I can't wait to watch this, I've been reading great things about Glee all day.

I had a fucking blast in high school, and the primary reason was my involvement in both the chorus and the drama club. It was there that I met most of my best friends. I lost my shyness and gained my perverted sense of humor. And I learned to revel in the unabashed joy that comes from belting out "Rainbow Connection", dancing in a doo wop group, and playing a whore in front of 200 strangers and my grandmom. Not at the same time, of course.

Posted by: Julie at May 20, 2009 4:14 PM

I missed it because I hadn't heard about it and didn't know it would be on. So there, pbbbbttt.

Posted by: elsie at May 20, 2009 4:16 PM

*in falsetto*

Faaaaabulouuuuuuus!

Posted by: admin at May 20, 2009 4:17 PM

and playing a whore in front of 200 strangers and my grandmom.

....nnnnn...no. Not gonna go there.

Posted by: Vermillion at May 20, 2009 4:21 PM

I'm your typical, male, beer-swilling, sports-loving schlub who also happens to possess/profess a lifelong love of classic Broadway and Hollywood Musicals.

Hey... we're ALL just a little bit fabulous!

I will be wayching "Glee", thank you.

Posted by: Spender at May 20, 2009 4:23 PM

and watching it as well... dammit.

Posted by: Spender at May 20, 2009 4:26 PM

I onced owned my own gay but I neglected him and he ran away. I still miss him dearly to this day, as I never learned a proper sashay.

Posted by: admin at May 20, 2009 4:26 PM

Oh admin, I do love it when you rhyme.

Verm...it was all in good taste I swear. I did go to Catholic school after all :p

Posted by: Julie at May 20, 2009 4:29 PM

Sounds good. This is one of the few shows I actually want to see.

Dustin's use of gay reminded me of some Family Guy sketch called "You've Got a Gay!" Might need to YouTube it.

Posted by: Brie at May 20, 2009 4:32 PM

...grabbing it by its tits and sucking the marrow out.

I read this and all I could think was, "ouch."

Posted by: Lindsay at May 20, 2009 4:34 PM

I watched and liked it, but I didn't love it. I don't think it belongs anywhere close to the same class as FNL. There were a couple of terrible parts (the jock's speech about how they're all losers) and a couple of wonderful parts (Journey, Jane Lynch. But mostly Jane Lynch.)

Posted by: The Wandering Parakeet at May 20, 2009 4:34 PM

Hey! I spent all last night listening to Ben fucking Folds and a bunch of a cappella groups! WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT FROM ME?!?!?!

Posted by: TK at May 20, 2009 4:34 PM

That doesn't help, Julie.

Posted by: Vermillion at May 20, 2009 4:35 PM

WE WANT YOU TO PRANCE, TK!!!

Posted by: Julie at May 20, 2009 4:35 PM

I watched it, and thought it was fun and had a reasonably interesting set up. I will probably watch it for all two months it'll be on before FOX kills it (keeping your expectations low means never being disappointed, only being right.)

However, this former flag girl still aches to see a show based on the specific kind of heart break and inherent ridiculousness of high school marching band. I'm starting to think it won't happen unless I script it and sleep with the producers myself.

Posted by: Genny (also Rusty) at May 20, 2009 4:36 PM

Fuck this show. The teevee is trying to gay up my son. He should be out painting fences, feeling up girls, repressing things and killing the indians. When my kid has a feeling, I want him to drink or fight not sing.

I do hope this show keeps this up. It was pretty good.

Posted by: BillowingBackpacks at May 20, 2009 4:36 PM

and killing the indians.

Ha ha ha ha ha!!

V, I was Aldonza the whore in Man of La Mancha. I got wooed by a crazy windmill tilting man, threatened with a whip, sang about knowing "too many beds but too little rest" (ooooooh scandalous), and was carried kicking and screaming offstage by a group of men to be gang banged. My Mom Mom at the end of the show: "I just wanted to tell you to GIVE IT UP already, they GOT YOU." Heh.

Posted by: Julie at May 20, 2009 4:40 PM

That must mean I am the gayest person ALIVE.

That bit with the journey song had me grinning like a complete fool and almost CLAPPING afterwards. It was freakin GLORIOUS.

Awesome review.

TK: JAZZ HANDS, DAMMIT!

Posted by: figgy at May 20, 2009 4:54 PM

the next episode of the show won’t air again until the Fall

The fuck? That makes no sense. It's like when Family Guy premiered after the Super Bowl way back when and then didn't get a second episode until the summer. Does Fox not want successful shows with big fanbases that can come back again and again until they can safely start casting their TV actors in their feature films and consistently earn money? Cause it sure doesn't seem like it.

Posted by: Robert at May 20, 2009 4:55 PM

I did go to Catholic school after all :p

-Julie

So does that mean you secretely engaged in all kinds of gratuitous sexual behaviour with men and women without telling anyone?

(I kid, I kid. I'm just sick of this shitty public school system I've been traped in all my life.)

Posted by: George at May 20, 2009 4:58 PM

Figgy, we all know why TK rocks the sweater-vests. It's so sleeves don't get in the way of the jazz hands when he spontaneously breaks into song and dance on random street corners.

Posted by: admin at May 20, 2009 5:03 PM

I am all over this show, like gays on a straight boy in a discotheque.

Posted by: Ian at May 20, 2009 5:08 PM

I always think I missed my chance in high school. I enjoy theater and I'm pretty damn talented but I was always on a sports team. Sure, I was asked to join drama (because they always needed guys and I knew some of the drama types from band) but how could they ask me to choose?
It's one of my regrets.

Posted by: Optimus Rhyme at May 20, 2009 5:13 PM

Julie - I was also in Man of La Mancha in high school! Just a bit part, as I was a wee freshman and can't sing a lick. But I was one of the muleteers crying out for food, wine, Aldonza! And unlike your pussy-ass school, we had our Pedro/muleteers/Aldonza gangbang take place on-stage. I got to crack a whip and then crack one off right in the middle of the stage. ...I miss high school theater.

Posted by: seth at May 20, 2009 5:23 PM

"I kid, I kid. I'm just sick of this shitty public school system I've been traped in all my life."

There's some serious fucking irony in that statement. It's all kinds of awesome.

Posted by: I Love Beets at May 20, 2009 5:24 PM

Seriously Beets! It's just one "t" away from being the next big prison movie.

Posted by: admin at May 20, 2009 5:30 PM

Oh I miss the EE. Beets and admin, that was perfect.

Posted by: figgy at May 20, 2009 5:32 PM

I was in the drama club in high school, and a few plays in college, but I didn't get my musical geek on until my daughter was in a competition dance team. Now I make props, I have the Sirius Broadway channel as a preset, and I know the entire soundtrack to Chicago. I'll have to watch this. By the way, I should tell y'all about the time I dumped 20 gallons of water onto a newly renovated stage.

Posted by: Mrcreosote at May 20, 2009 5:36 PM

This review makes me very happy, not just because the show looks as good as it has been said to be, but because you are encouraging gayness and all of that good stuff. Being part of the Gay Pajibians, I'm more then glad to hear straight people who sound so supportive for their homosexual buddies!
Then again, I always knew about your love without boundaries for Ryan Reynolds.

Posted by: Kamikaze Feminist at May 20, 2009 5:40 PM

I DVRd this for the sole reason that I was in the show choir in high school--had to see how it was presented on TV. I haven't watched it yet but will be seeing it later tonight. Wheee!

Posted by: Lainiefig at May 20, 2009 5:42 PM

Loved this so much! I was also cheering and clapping. I guess it is the former drama and show choir girl in me. Our group was called the Chicklets!

Posted by: ALli at May 20, 2009 5:59 PM

How very Men on Films. I understand the site's stance on giving out arbitrary ratings like thumbs or super stars, but this one deserves two snaps and a rewind.

Posted by: branded at May 20, 2009 6:08 PM

In junior high school I played Luther Billis in "South Pacific" and had to wear a grass skirt and coconut tits. And I LOVED it. But I never went out for the drama stuff in high school Did dabble in a shitty sketch-comedy group in college. Should have kept on with that, or gone into sports, instead of majoring in English and ending up unemployed thanks to going into publishing instead of teaching (or majoring in business).

That said, I _adored_ this show.

Posted by: growler at May 20, 2009 6:10 PM

Glee Club means immediate ostracization

Ostracism, perhaps?

Posted by: TryScience at May 20, 2009 4:11 PM

------------------------------------------------

Nope, the word you're looking for is ostracizanicatation.

Oh, and this worth a look on account on Jane Lynch alone.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at May 20, 2009 6:40 PM

I have this Tivo'd, but I ended up catching the final Journey performance (since it ran into my news watching time) and I loved it.

It was cheesy, but good cheesy, like nachos at the ballpark on a crisp sunny day, when your team can do no wrong.

Oh, and they all look SO CUTE in their uniforms (forgot the gay).

Posted by: Drake at May 20, 2009 6:50 PM

First they get Disney World for the weekend and now they want their own show, where does it end?

Posted by: Guess Who! at May 20, 2009 6:53 PM

Thank you so much for making me check this out.

Posted by: Kaba at May 20, 2009 6:54 PM

Mary Cherry in Ryan Murphy's first show Popular said it best:

"Let me just say, on the record, that I love the gays."

Posted by: Claire at May 20, 2009 6:56 PM

Huh. I half saw the ads while not paying much attention to the TV and thought it was another reality TV show.

That said ... screw glee club, us hardcore punks were speech and debate for life.

Posted by: Steven Lloyd Wilson at May 20, 2009 7:08 PM

i'm afraid to comment on what i *really* think, not about glee club or even a show about glee club, but what i think of gay stereotypes, acceptance of 'gay' behaviors, tolerance of gays as a social ruler, the turning tides of slang and innuendo, or the start-stops of sexual revolution and all it entails.

no, i think i'll stay out of this.
you guys enjoy your little...love-in.
or whatever.

Posted by: gp at May 20, 2009 7:54 PM

YAY! I fucking love you Rowles! This review made my day...and it had been kind of a shitty day. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm about to go own my gay!!!!!!

By the way, people ALWAYS neglect that Ryan Murphy didn't begin with Nip/Tuck. His opus was the short-lived WB show, Popular. If you doubt how gay THAT show was, watch this clip now and be prepared to simultaneously pee yourself and queue this show up on Netflix:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qkx7Qs46pio

Posted by: The Pink Hulk at May 20, 2009 8:26 PM

Jane Lynch was enough to make us watch and, oh my, did I love this show.
After we were done watching it I had the same feeling I had after watching the first episode of Pushing Daisies...you know, happy.
And I kept smiling.

Plus, sweet Jebus, a "show choir" singing Rehab? That is TV brilliance.

Posted by: Jules at May 20, 2009 8:27 PM

That said ... screw glee club, us hardcore punks were speech and debate for life.
Posted by: Steven Lloyd Wilson at May 20, 2009 7:08 PM
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Ms. Spender (LD diva) just fell a little in love with you, Stipe-Man.

Posted by: Spender at May 20, 2009 9:47 PM

no, i think i'll stay out of this.
you guys enjoy your little...love-in.
or whatever.
Posted by: gp at May 20, 2009 7:54 PM
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C'mon, gp, you're probably the bravest and most outspoken person in Pajibaland.
Say what you're thinking, sir!

Posted by: Spender at May 20, 2009 9:49 PM

If he were brave he'd say what was on his mind and not sit back and feel sorry for himself.

Posted by: Guess Who! at May 20, 2009 10:04 PM

This show would already get an A from me for use of wheelchair humour, not to mention what everyone has already said.

Posted by: Marcela at May 20, 2009 10:13 PM

And if "Guess whookie!" was brave (s)he wouldn't be a guess who, n'est ce-pas?
gp has revealed more of his personal life and information on this page than most anyone and deserves respect and admiration for same.

Posted by: Spender at May 20, 2009 10:33 PM

and by 'page' I meant 'pages'.

Posted by: Spender at May 20, 2009 10:34 PM

It seems to me like gp has already said what's on his mind; I doubt that his opinion of "acceptance of 'gay' behaviors, tolerance of gays as a social ruler" would be that hey, they're great, since in that case he wouldn't feel 'afraid' of voicing it.

Oh, and I love it when people say 'gays' - you know, as in, "and blacks and disableds".

Posted by: Caspar at May 20, 2009 10:41 PM

ha! i went to dinner.

so here's a nutshell of what i meant earlier. (and this comes on the heels of having the boyfriend AND the roommate both watching glee! while i was at work last night and raving over it, which automatically makes me defensive. but THAT was just about the show :)

i'm pushing 40, i've been out since i was in high school, graduated in 90, and this small rant will only be from my own life experiences. if it doesn't speak to you, matter to you, affect you in any way, great! i'm not calling out anyone who has commented on this thread, but some things said beg to have these issues addressed, if for no other reason than i've been cranky most of the day. that's not a self-pity move (since guess who! keeps trying to get me to respond to him...and, ...i'm done).

yes, more and more people know someone who is gay now more than ever before, but it's a little irksome to me when people claim to be accepting of gays because they went to a dance club with some fag from work and had a good time and oh! we should do this again, and invite so-and-so from the office because her sister is gay, and yada...
and then freak because they saw two guys hold hands or kiss in public (not heavy PDA, just a peck). believe you me, the things I DO SEXUALLY would break these little bitches in two. trust me, you guys, i am dirty.
but then, so are you, and you, and you over there
(i've SEEN you, with your DP violations). sex is just that: sweaty sticky smelly slimy and if you're doing it right, sinful. what i do is no more unnatural for me than what you do is unnatural for you (but the lesbians, THAT is against god, who intended for at least one peep to be in the room).

i don't fit the standard stereotypes of a gay male. don't like musicals (except maybe rocky horror or hedwig or some random stageplay soundtrack featuring nina hagen), don't swish or prance or lisp or wear make-up (except for a little black eyeliner in high school and college). don't know how to help you fix your hair or help you decide what outfit you should wear (i *can* tell you if something looks good or not, but it usually requires some focus and more attention to details than i normally give). i was never one of the conventionally pretty good-smelling gays (although i've got some hot friends), and i never liked things like celine dion or mariah carey or whatever drag queens are lip-synching to this days. my tastes have always run the sisters of mercy/bauhaus/siouxsie/debbie gibson/cure/depeche mode route.

i am not offended when someone says 'oh this or that is gay', however one must note that eminem's new single is not 'gay', nor is the new geiko commercial, the new honda odyssey, nor those jumbo rice krispies.buying shoes with a belt to match, *that* is gay.

this is actually longer than i wanted to write, i won't bore you with the human rights violations i've endured, the excommunication from my church, the estranged immediate family (what? you thought i was FROM tulsa?), the friends i've lost, the friends who've died, the public and private humiliations i've seen and been through. cuz this isn't about self-pity (even though i don't pity myself such things).
it IS about more than a few faggy characters on a new show that make you feel like hey! i'm so down with the gays.

(and i can say that.
cause i'm THE gay.)


fuck you and good night.


Posted by: gp at May 20, 2009 11:31 PM

great pilot. as long as it can keep it's heart, this show will go places. has the potential to be big too, if it is able to retain the american idol crowd. too bad most of them are allergic to scripts.

Posted by: trippdup at May 21, 2009 12:25 AM

gp, thank you for sharing your thoughts. I am occasionally uncomfortable with people using the term "gay" when what they mean is "flamboyant and campy" as though the two are interchangeable. However, as a woman who has only ever had heterosexual relations I did not feel it was my place to quibble over terminology.

Posted by: Genny (also Rusty) at May 21, 2009 12:54 AM

Hey gp, just wanted to add that I also appreciate you sharing your thoughts. I think it's good for people to be reminded of these things from time to time.

I live in liberal country, where boys regularly kiss and hold hands on the street, and "some of my best friends are gay", and I have gay people in my family... and even I need to be reminded of these things occasionally. Because it is annoying when people are all like "I love the gays" and what they really mean is, gays are fun to shop with and go to the dance club, but when they actually have to think about a dick going into a butthole, they FREAK THE FUCK OUT.

GET OVER IT.

You summed it up really well: "what i do is no more unnatural for me than what you do is unnatural for you."

Why can't people wrap their minds around that? (And not just about the gay, but about everything.) WHY WHY WHY?

OK, pointless straight girl rant over.

Posted by: MM at May 21, 2009 2:35 AM

Actually, I'm totally with gp on this one.

I remember when Queer Eye came out and it was all "gay acceptance is on the rise. This show will change the world!" And there was this niggling feeling, like something wasn't right. And then I realized that, yet again, gay men were being pigeonholed into hairdressers, personal shoppers, chefs . . . you get the idea. And of COURSE they were put on earth to help ugly straight men look better.

I've voiced (here, many times) my disgust with the whole "bisexual" thing that girls keep doing. Once more: kissing your friend at a bar in order to get free drinks or make guys think you're adventurous does NOT make you bisexual or bicurious or even remotely interesting. It makes you an annoying attention whore and please fucking stop it.

I believe in bisexuality, hell, I subscribe to it. And what it fucking means is that I am equally attracted to and willing/able to fall in love with either gender.

As this relates to Glee, well, I don't know. The gay character they put on there is pretty stereotypical, and that's nothing like the gay boys I knew in high school. They were all pretty closeted and concerned with acting as straight as possible. I'm guessing that's still the case more often than not.

Posted by: Sharon at May 21, 2009 2:39 AM

All that being said, I liked the show because it brought back fond memories of high school choir. And some not so fond: bow tie, cummerbund, tux shirt, and long black skirt? No thank you, never again. I've never felt so unattractive.

By the way, altos rule and all the sopranos can suck it. :)

Posted by: Sharon at May 21, 2009 2:44 AM

Hmm. OK gp, I kind of take your point. However, it's great that you're not a stereotypical homo and all, but I don't think that takes away from the people who watch these types of shows actually being tolerant, respectful people. So homposexuality has often put on a bright shiny face in order to make itself acceptable - and visible - on TV. And yeah, that sucks a bit. I agree: we don't all want to be portrayed as a sort of all-singing, all-dancing, Queer Eye for the Jack from Will & Grace. But things are still so much better than they were, and people are working on homosexual characters with more depth and variety than they used to. Look at Six Feet Under and Brothers & Sisters.

Posted by: Caspar at May 21, 2009 7:27 AM

I liked it.

I love my gays!

Posted by: Mebe at May 21, 2009 9:44 AM

Geez, I can do more stereotypical gay things than gp, maybe I should get tested.

Posted by: admin at May 21, 2009 9:55 AM

caspar, i've read and re-read your comment and i see where you are coming from, i really do. yes, there is more visability of gay characters on tv and in movies but i personally still feel that *most* of the characters i've seen portrayed fall into stereotype trappings.

how i would LOVE to see an action flick where the hero saves the girl and when she offers herself to him at the end, we then learn it's not gonna happen because he happens to be gay.
or a drama where the gay couple in the neighborhood isn't completely drenched in mystery, speculation, back-stabbing and scandal.
or a gay comedy where the funny doesn't come from mistaken-for-straight duality or buttsex jokes, but from real character development in real situations (i'm looking at you, chuck and larry).

i get that stereotypes, whether or not they are self-perpetuated, aren't going to go away anytime soon. i don't expect to wake up tomorrow in a world where black people don't listen to hip hop, irish people are sober, mexicans don't do yard work, nigerians don't try to scam me, old people can drive and gay people don't like disco.
what i do expect is for this world to get a little bit smaller.

Posted by: gp at May 21, 2009 9:56 AM

I agree, but then you have to think realistically about what sort of person these types of drama/comedy might attract. I'm afraid your typical action film viewer is still most likely straight and male; your romantic comedy viewer most probably straight and female. And I think the thinking in major film studios is clearly still that people want a cinema that reflects their concerns back at them, and want to be able to identify with/project themselves at, the action. So in this sense, I think homosexuality and indeed race (show me a romantic comedy showing a relationship between a white and a black person) are still a minority concern, and these things are still only going to make a very small breach in the mainstream.


Posted by: Caspar at May 21, 2009 11:14 AM

By the way, altos rule and all the sopranos can suck it. :)

But Sharon, what about those of us who go both ways? (tee hee) I've got four and a half octaves and I'm using them all, dammit!

Posted by: Another Jen at May 21, 2009 11:14 AM

That just means you're greedy, Jen. :)

Hey, did you ever hear that old choir joke?

Q: How does a soprano change a light bulb?
A: She hangs on and the world revolves around her.

Posted by: Sharon at May 21, 2009 12:56 PM

I missed Glee that night because I went to see Spring Awakening on its Broadway Across America tour. Is that gay enough for you -- going to see live musical theatre instead of watching a TV show about live musical theatre?

(PS: I caught the pilot online and it's awesome! Super-psyched.)

Posted by: Ariel at May 21, 2009 2:15 PM

I may be able to top you Ariel...I DVR'd Glee because I was auditioning for a community theater production of Seussical the Musical.

Callbacks are tonight! Wish me luck!

Posted by: MN_Jen at May 21, 2009 2:32 PM

MN_Jen, break a leg!

Posted by: Ariel at May 21, 2009 2:38 PM

I think Glee found its audience in this comment section. As a former drama geek, FUCK YES. I am so catching this online. Fox better keep it around for at least a season.

Posted by: Katherine at May 21, 2009 4:35 PM

Prediction. This will never get on TV in my part of the planet, Australia.

But, man, will it get downloaded!

Posted by: trib at May 21, 2009 5:03 PM

so much of me wants to cry bullshit.
we have two different views on things.
i'm just saying, for example: keanu and sandra didn't HAVE to kiss and fall in love in the last 2 minutes of speed. the movie was fine until that point. i'm not saying he should have told her he was jeff daniels' bitch or anything...

the pigeon-holing IS offensive. but we are ALL guilty in some form or other.
not all blacks love tyler perry (can i get a witness?). not all straight men like football. not all women watch the view. not all asians eat with chopsticks. not all priests are child molesters.

and i don't think you can tell if a person is full of racial hate by looking in their ipod either.

as far as the whole baby steps, dont scare the straight people 'we're lucky to get whatever *good* coverage we can get' goes, BAH! i think you and i BOTH probably underestimate our fellow man.


Posted by: gp at May 21, 2009 6:32 PM

omg is this like HSM?!?!?!? I love HSM

Go Zanessa!

Posted by: anonymous at May 21, 2009 7:26 PM

God dammit. I liked it better when the world didn't know what a glee club was. Now they'll think every glee club is a bunch of gay kids singing their hearts out to showtunes and shit.

I was in the glee club in college, and we wore white ties and tails and sang Beethoven's 9th at Carnegie Hall. You fuckers.

Hail to the Victors.

Posted by: Lucas at May 22, 2009 12:33 AM

I missed Glee that night because I went to see Spring Awakening on its Broadway Across America tour. Is that gay enough for you -- going to see live musical theatre instead of watching a TV show about live musical theatre?

It really all depends on what color you were wearing and whether or not you could sing along with the show or not. The fact that you said musical tharter and did not just say show means I have to take points away. Sorry :-(

Posted by: Angelmonster at May 22, 2009 11:31 AM

this was awesome!

Thanks Pajiba for the heads up

Posted by: Ari at May 22, 2009 3:22 PM

Are you people for real? Because that? SUCKED. I mean I get the whole, "I was in glee/choir/drama/band and I'm having fun remembering all the old times". But honestly, the show, the ACTUAL show, was awful. Terrible pacing and overly earnest writing and acting. I know it was just the pilot, but it simply was not good. And it is not because I don't like 'theater types'. I was in the glee club, the specialty singing group AND on the drill team. I fully embraced all that is dork-dom in high school. But this show will need tons of work if it is to appeal to a broader audience.

Hell, even the people who made the show know this. The "pilot" that airs in the Fall will be different from the one aired after the AI finale. It had undergone some significant retooling.

Posted by: LaLaGone GaGa at May 23, 2009 3:46 AM

But Angelmonster, I spelled "theatre" the gay way! Please don't take points away! Can I do extra credit?

Posted by: Ariel at May 23, 2009 4:36 PM

And the effeminatization of America keeps on rollin. Oh yeah!

Posted by: pauling at May 25, 2009 9:29 AM

Ariel, don't let the rest of the world catch you saying you spelled "theatre" the "gay way." That's the way many other countries spell it.

Glee was just ok, in my opinion. I'll admit, I did band, choir, musical, the plays, etc. (and speech and debate too) in high school, and yeah, it was a pretty freaking awesome time. But this feels too much like High School Musical(which I have not seen and do not want to see) to feel like an honest show outlining how awesome that experience of creativity really is.

Posted by: Queserasera84 at May 26, 2009 4:35 PM





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