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Give Peace a Chance

By C. Robert Dimitri | Posted Under TV Reviews | Comments (41)



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“Not got any celery, have you?”

Voiceover from a Silurian elder accompanies a global view of Earth from space. A thousand years ago, we are told, the Doctor united humans and Silurians to share the planet, but this did not happen without losses.

Continuing where we left off, the Doctor and Nasreen advance into the Silurian city. An alarm activates, and the Doctor and Nasreen are surrounded and rendered unconscious by gas-firing guns despite the Doctor’s assurance that they have come in peace.

Elsewhere in the city, Amy’s dissection is halted when the Silurian physician, Malokeh, hears news of the Doctor’s capture over a loudspeaker. Amy manages to pick Malokeh’s pocket of the remote control that restrains Mo and her before he leaves to investigate. Amy and Mo leave the dissection lab and find Mo’s son Elliot trapped in a chamber. Elliot is frozen in a sort of suspended animation, and they are unable to release him.

Back above ground, Ambrose questions Rory about his lie of being a police officer and why he and the Doctor are there. Rory can only ask her to trust the Doctor, help watch their prisoner Alaya, and wait. Rory stresses that he trusts the Doctor with his life.

The Doctor and Nasreen are now being restrained on Malokeh’s operating tables. Restac, a commander of the Silurian guard and Alaya’s sister, tells Malokeh that the escape of Amy and Mo proves that the military should be overseeing all operations. Malokeh initiates the decontamination process on the Doctor, which aims to remove the surface bacteria from his body and causes him great pain. The Doctor convinces Malokeh to stop when he points out that he is not human. The Doctor is stil restrained, but he gathers some information, most importantly that the drill had disrupted the Silurians’ underground oxygen pockets. The Doctor tells Restac that they only want to retrieve Amy, Mo, and Elliot in exchange for Alaya. Restac — much like her sister — refuses to negotiate and is intent on executing the Doctor.

Tony visits Alaya, who still refuses to cooperate and expresses her excitement for a war between humans and Silurians. Tony asks her to cure him of the venomous wound she inflicted on him earlier in return for helping her escape, but she would rather watch him become the first death in this new war.

Mo and Amy discover Silurians in suspended animation. These Silurians stand immobile but breathing on discs that would propel them up through the surface. Amy and Mo cautiously take their weapons just before they discover an entire cavern of suspended Silurians.

Still captive, the Doctor and Nasreen are led through Silurian caverns. The Doctor tells the story of another group of Silurians he encountered that had put themselves in suspended animation to avoid the destruction of their race by a great impact from space. They were mistaken in that this was simply the moon settling into orbit. (My admittedly limited knowledge of the primary theory that explains the creation of the moon causes me to doubt the potential reality of this fictional timeline.) Restac is disgusted when the Doctor reveals that humans later killed this group of Silurians.

Tony’s health is deteriorating, and a concerned Ambrose examines the wound. Ambrose visits Alaya alone and threatens her with a taser gun. Alaya refuses to comply with Ambrose’s pleas and taunts her. Ambrose pulls the trigger multiple times as Alaya continues to mock her weakness. Rory and Tony rush to help in response to Alaya’s cries. Rory puts his nurse skills to work and tries to save Alaya, but Alaya is happy to die in the name of war and does so.

Restac and Malokeh take the Doctor and Nasreen into a grand hall that also serves as an execution chamber. Amy and Mo arrive with weapons in hand and demand that the Doctor and Nasreen are released. Karen Gillan imbues Amy with an amusing amount of sass as she aims her gun at Restac, but Restac senses that Amy is not a killer and snatches the gun. Sans leverage, Mo gives up as well. Restac dismisses Malokeh, and the prisoners are tied to the pillars in the room in preparation for execution.

Restac contacts Rory, Tony, and Ambrose via a computer monitor in the room with Alaya’s body, shows the three of them her hostages, and demands to see Alaya. The Doctor, unaware that Alaya is dead, tries calm everyone in this discussion and asks Ambrose to let Rory handle the negotiation. Alaya’s body is just beyond the view of the monitor, and Ambrose refuses to cooperate. Restac orders the execution of Amy and halts the communication.

Eldane, the leader of the Silurians and newly awakened by Malokeh, halts the execution. Malokeh tells Restac that the apes have evolved since they last knew them and deserve their consideration. Eldane challenges Restac’s authority and sends her away. The Doctor reestablishes communication with Rory using the Silurian technology and asks them to use the geothermal transport discs and gravity bubbles to travel through the ground to the city. If they bring Alaya, peace should be reached. Rory again assumes a leadership role and says that they the owe Silurians the truth. Tony and Ambrose are distraught and secretly hatch their own plan.

With a little time to kill, the Doctor encourages Nasreen and Amy to begin negotiations with Eldane for the future of the planet. Amy is cautiously excited and nervous about this opportunity; Nasreen is understandably skeptical that the bulk of humanity above ground will respect any agreement they forge related to sharing Earth. (I am amused imagining how various current political leaders might respond to this situation.) The Doctor urges her to “be extraordinary” and giddily calls the meeting to order before leaving with Mo to fetch Elliot.

Malokeh helps the Doctor and Mo release Elliot, who was in suspended animation so that Malokeh could learn more about the surface. Malokeh had been practicing his studies for the previous three hundred years, and the Doctor - admiring Malokeh’s scientific spirit — tells Malokeh that he loves him. Malokeh assures Mo that his son is fine and wakes Elliot. I would like to see Malokeh also apologize to Mo for dissecting him earlier, but that goes without mention. The awakened Elliot takes the situation in youthful stride, and the Doctor apologizes to Elliot for taking his eye off of him.

Eldane (now revealed as the source of the original voiceover), Nasreen, and Amy struggle to find common ground, but form a tentative plan that would place the Silurians in areas mostly uninhabited by humans (the Sahara, the Australian Outback, etc.) in return for knowledge of the technological advances that the Silurians have achieved.

Malokeh discovers Restac awakening more Silurian soldiers, and she shoots him dead in the name of protecting their species from the apes.

The Doctor returns to the negotiation hall with Mo and Elliot. The progress therein and the Doctor’s resulting happiness are short-lived, as Rory, Tony, and Ambrose reach the hall with Alaya’s body in tow. Eldane is speechless, and the Doctor desperately tries to assure him that humans are better than this. The Doctor angrily chides Ambrose for being “so much less than the best of humanity.” Restac arrives with a battalion of soldiers and finds her sister’s body. The tenuous peace crumbles as Ambrose reveals that she and Tony have set the drill to resume its operation in fifteen minutes. Restac orders her soldiers to kill Ambrose, who the Doctor pushes to safety. The group of humans flees with Eldane through the caverns, as the Doctor uses his sonic screwdriver to disable some of the Silurian weapons and narrowly dodges a literal tongue-lashing from a Silurian soldier.

The Doctor and company barricade themselves in Malokeh’s control room and concoct one of the Doctor’s patented haphazard but brilliant plans. Tony’s ailment can be cured by the decontamination process. Nasreen will send an electronic pulse upward destroying the drill and her life’s work. Eldane reluctantly offers to release a failsafe toxic gas into the city’s halls that will force the Silurians wise enough not to fight to retreat to their hibernation chambers, where they will wait for another thousand years. He realizes that humans are not ready to share the planet, and the Doctor tells those gathered in the room to pass the tale of the Silurians and the necessary peace down through the generations.

Tony must stay behind, as the wound is causing him to mutate. Only the Silurian technology can save him. He says farewell to Ambrose and Elliot. Nasreen stays with Tony; the two of them will remain in suspended animation for a thousand years and serve as ambassadors in the future. Nasreen asks the Doctor to look for her there. The Doctor, Amy, Mo, Ambrose, and Elliot rush through the city to the TARDIS.

Mo, Ambrose, and Elliot enter, but Rory, Amy, and the Doctor pause when they see the recurring space-time crack on the wall of the cavern. We have not seen it since the destruction of the Weeping Angels. With only a few minutes to escape the Silurian city before the gas completely fills the halls and the drill above explodes, the Doctor’s irrepressible curiosity overwhelms him. He approaches the crack and inserts his hand in spite of Rory’s and Amy’s protests. He pulls a small item wrapped in cloth loose from inside the crack.

Restac, poisoned by the gas, crawls into the room and fires her gun at the Doctor. Rory pushes him aside and is hit by the laser blast. Rory lies dying and expresses confusion that he saw himself standing on the hill in the future. The light from the space-time crack stretches outward and touches Rory. Amy tearfully refuses to leave as it engulfs him, and the Doctor drags her into the TARDIS. As they transport away, the Doctor urges Amy to keep Rory in her mind, lest the effects of the crack erase him from history. She tries to remember, but the effects of the crack are too powerful. A jolt to the TARDIS knocks the engagement ring from the console to the floor of the TARDIS and banishes Rory from Amy’s mind.

The timer for the drill’s destruction ends, and Amy reacts with the same carefree adventuresome spirit that she had before Rory’s death. Outside, the Doctor urges Ambrose one last time to make Elliot the best of humanity, telling her that an “eye for an eye” is not the way.

As the Doctor and Amy return to the TARDIS, she spies only herself on the hill, saying farewell from the future. Rory is gone. For a moment she thinks she saw someone else. She tells the Doctor that she still wants to go to Rio.

Amy enters the TARDIS leaving the Doctor alone outside with his thoughts. He unwraps the item he pulled from the crack, which is very clearly a broken piece of the TARDIS itself. A final voiceover by Eldane lets us know that greater losses for the Doctor are still to come.

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This adventure was somewhat stock in its execution, although I do appreciate the Silurian story as a whole. As parables go, it’s an effective one that encourages peace and stewardship for the planet.

Obviously “Cold Blood” had a memorable and important resolution that will affect the remaining course of the season. The death of a companion is a rarity in the Doctor Who mythos (R.I.P., Adric). After a shaky introduction I thought Rory was just beginning to find his rightful place in the story. This makes his loss all the more effective. Karen Gillan gives a strong performance in the scene where she loses Rory, expressing sadness and anger with the Doctor.

One wonders how the Doctor will react to all this. In “Amy’s Choice” we are shown that Matt Smith’s Doctor has a substantial amount of guilt related to his past, and throughout this adventure the Doctor assures all involved again and again that he will protect them. With Rory’s death, the theme of the Doctor’s fallibility is brought to fruition. Most troubling is the fact that he will never find forgiveness from Amy, as she will never remember the potential happiness that the Doctor has taken from her. Hence, the Doctor must deal with this internally, adding more guilt to his psyche.

C. Robert Dimitri spent many of the prime Saturday nights of his youth staying home to watch syndicated episodes of Doctor Who on PBS, and his social skills might be beyond repair as a result. He’s not the most hardcore Whovian, but he’s a respectable representative. The first episode he remembers watching was Tom Baker’s “The Creature From The Pit.” At one point he obsessively watched all the Hartnell, Troughton, and Pertwee episodes that were available to him, and sometime around the age of 14 he dragged his mother to a Doctor Who convention. All he truly has ever wanted for Christmas is Perpugilliam Brown, but he would be almost as content with K-9.

He thinks sharing the planet with Silurians might be fun.









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Comments

Despite the failings and contrivances of this episode, the loss of Rory ripped my heart out. I may be completely gullible, but I didn't see it coming at all. It is a hundred million times better played and more sad Donna.

Posted by: Sbrown at June 22, 2010 2:05 PM

I still don't know if I like this Doctor. But I'm pretty sure I don't like Amy. And, the Amy - Rory story was pretty bad. It never made sense. The actors had no chemistry, and the characters did not belong together whatsoever, and nothing in the show demonstrated any reason for them to be together.

And, it never appeared that Amy had any interest in Rory at all. So, ultimately, I had little interest in Rory and thought he was an awkward addition and am actually happy he is gone.

I have yet to see any redeeming value in Amy Pond.

Finally, the ending of this 2-parter was very weak. the Silurian leader decides just to let his people slumber for another 1,000 years and to help the humans escape? Why?

Also, based on the level of their technology, which we have to assume was the level when they went into hybernation, how exactly were they fooled into thinking the moon was going to collide with the earth.

Very weak. This whole season has been very weak so far. They ruined the Weeping Angels and Venice was ridiculous.

Posted by: chewster at June 22, 2010 2:11 PM

So I really like Amy. I find this odd, as in terms of companions I was OK with Rose, I liked Martha (but she was so secondary to David Tennant), and I HATED Donna with a violent passion. And now there's Amy, who I honestly think is great. And, of course, Matt Smith is wonderful. And I want him to be my best friend. But Amy is surprisingly awesome for a companion.

And Rory! I'm gonna keep this a spoiler-free comment other than to say WHAT?!?

Posted by: esme at June 22, 2010 2:14 PM

1. Why couldn't Amy have died and Rory and Nasreen been the Doctor's companions? Sigh. I loved her in Jekyll.

2. Why doesn't Amy remember Rory when she remembers the soldiers who disappeared in the Weeping Angels episode? She's a time traveller and she was there when it happened, so that supposedly was why she could remember. I hate it when the stories aren't consistent.

3. I was wondering why the disection thing was necessary?

4. I was wondering why bringing up the kid's dyslexia was necessary? I was hoping this would somehow come into the plot later.

5. So the Doctor convinces the Silurians to wake up in 1000 years and make peace with the Apes. Well, we already know what happens in 1000 years, don't we. The Apes all leave on the back of a spacewhale because the surface of the Earth is being burnt up by the Sun. Oh, you sly, evil Doctor, you.

6. Rory, rule number 1, never take a bullet for the Doctor. He can't die, and maybe we'd get someone with a normal skull next time.

Posted by: BWeaves at June 22, 2010 2:16 PM

I really liked how unabashedly Trek it was.

Posted by: Jay at June 22, 2010 2:21 PM

maybe we'd get someone with a normal skull next time.

My favorite shots for Eleven are always of him backlit or in profile, because he just looks so preposterous! But I love it. I love the weird-ass hair (not weird ass-hair), the forehead, the wacky grin. I think it's hilarious. Plus those pants just make his whole body look so so oddly proportioned! I'm finally buying that he's a different species. But he's an adorable different species.

Posted by: esme at June 22, 2010 2:22 PM

Esme: I agree. 11 has grown on me. I still think he's weird looking, but I kind of like his persona a lot. At least he's not snogging the companions. I hate it when the Doctor snogs the companions.

Posted by: BWeaves at June 22, 2010 2:25 PM

BWeaves: I hate it too. But mostly because I get jealous. Or because they're the Titanic chick. Seriously -- he knew her for like a half hour and he's already attached enough to have a good snog with her ghost?

Posted by: esme at June 22, 2010 2:33 PM

esme:

THANK YOU!! I could not stand the sight of Donna let alone tolerate her annoying whinge when she opened her mouth. I've never understood the love for her here and I have been scoffed at every time I bring it up.
I like Amy. I love the fact that in a sense she's going through puberty and growing up all over again because of her travel with the Doctor. She had a lonely, awkward childhood and it makes perfect sense to me that she would think she was in love with Rory but not be ready to marry him yet realize how much value he had when she's threatened with the loss of him. Let's face it. He had to go. The Doctor doesn't travel in packs. I feel confident he will be back.

Posted by: PaddyDog at June 22, 2010 2:39 PM

Since the door has been opened to the discussion of Eleven's appearance, does anyone else find his eyes way too small for that giant face? I know we were spoiled with Tennant's enormous almond eyes but I am finding Eleven's face very distracting at times. I feel that there's so much face and forehead and hair overstyled on a large round brush and then these beady little eyes. Almost as if the regeneration stopped before it was complete and the face hadn't fully formed. Apologies to Matt Smith, he's probably adorable in person.

Posted by: PaddyDog at June 22, 2010 2:45 PM

Uh oh, you woke up Paddy.


BBCAmericans: They have not begun to fuck with you.

Posted by: Jay at June 22, 2010 2:46 PM

Sometimes, Jay, we Americans use the internet to get fucked with.

Posted by: coryo at June 22, 2010 2:56 PM

Paddy: I'm glad you woke up. Not only am I in mild hysterics, I can now invite you to join the We Hate Donna Club (so far there are 2 members -- you can be treasurer!). And you're right about the eyes, but I still think he rocks the weird-looking-ness. It's charming. I do pine for David Tennant's "enormous almond eyes," though (and well said).

Jay: WHEEEEE! Wait 'till they find out how much fuckage is in store...

Posted by: esme at June 22, 2010 2:56 PM

Um...take the above as you will.

Posted by: coryo at June 22, 2010 2:56 PM

esme:

I'm with you. I think his looks work for The Doctor. Weird is good when you're a 900+ year-old alien.
The really sad thing about the Donna years is that it became obvious toward the end that Ten would have had a lot more fun with Grandad if he had taken him along to begin with.

Posted by: PaddyDog at June 22, 2010 3:06 PM

Nice recap.

I was irked that we just had the episode where Amy made her choice and then it was rendered immediately pointless. I feel like emotion was teased from me. Wankers.

Posted by: Cindy at June 22, 2010 3:09 PM

I did feel saddened when Rory bit it. Like watching a puppy get hit with a shovel.
And I still think this all feels weird, with #11.
Maybe it's the whole "rift in time" thing going on. But it just seems like they get close to something like and engaging plot and then just piss it away.

And I absolutely agree with PaddyDog about "grandad". I really loved Bernard Cribbins and thought it would have been great for him and Tennant to bizz about the universe.
Ah well. Still watching.

Posted by: Odnon at June 22, 2010 3:35 PM

I was fine with Rory biting it because the meaningful shot of the ring falling said to me "It's okay, Nat, the ring will pop up later and then through some series of events he'll be back because the link with Amy's memory will be re-established."

I can honestly say I don't understand the vehement hatred of the 11th doctor or of Amy or of this season though. Everyone's entitled to it, of course, and it's not the fact that people FEEL that way that baffles me but the sheer number of people who do. I have to wonder if there isn't some degree of bitterness over Tennant and Davies leaving, and maybe a bit too much of "comparing the new boyfriend to the ex" going on.

For some people, anyway. I can't reach into anyone's head and divine why they dislike this season. If I could, I would also be flying through time and space in my little spaceship.

ANYways, I didn't enjoy this two-parter and I thought it was one of the misses of this season; too many contrivances, too much moralizing, too much left unresolved. However, I think the whole lizard people under the earth who want to take over thing is funny given that the biggest "lizard people taking over the earth" conspiracy theorist in the world is British. I like to imagine that he was screaming girlishly in his living room when these episodes aired, and being all like YES! NOW THE TRUTH WILL FINALLY BE REVEALED! Or maybe he'll be angry and all like NO! HOW DARE YOU MAKE A MOCKERY OF THE TRUTH! NOW THEY WILL NEVER BELIEVE ME! THIS WAS ALL PART OF YOUR PLAN, YOU COLD-BLOODED ABOMINATIONS!

I dunno. My mind wanders sometimes if I'm not multitasking while watching stuff, and this is the kind of thing it comes up with.

I REALLY enjoyed the Van Gogh episode that airs after this one though (I may have cried near the end, just a little), so honestly, this season has been no different for me than previous seasons, where it was RTD's obnoxious devotion to fart jokes (FUCK YOU, SLITHEEN, FUCK YOU IN YOUR FARTY FAT SUITS) and too much camp that ruined a lot of episodes for me instead.

Posted by: Nat Kittyface at June 22, 2010 3:46 PM

Given that I love all the doctors, here's my list of complaints.

9. Christopher Eccleston didn't look Doctory enough. He looked like some guy you'd pick up in a pub. He also wasn't very good with humor. Too mad.

10. Cute, but those boggle eyes bothered me sometimes. I can't even get the whites of my eyes to show around my irises like that. And the snogging. EW, the snogging. Good coat. Did humor well, but winked at the camera too much.

11. I like his personality best. It's the most Doctory. And he does humour very dry, and I like that. Still, I'd like him better in a decent pair of trousers. Cuffs would balance out the head, maybe?

11b. Enough with the "last of the species" crap. Somewhere the doctor has to run into a species that breeds like rabbits.

Posted by: BWeaves at June 22, 2010 3:55 PM

Yeah. As long as we're discussing the doctors' looks, let's talk about how weird Eccleston's face is. His ears! And his his forehead! Good gravy.

And I SO agree on 11b. That hook is worn out. Please give us something new, or at least something hasn't been used in a while.

Posted by: esme at June 22, 2010 4:10 PM

I seem to be on of the few that's really enjoying the current season of Doctor Who. It's my first season, so perhaps it's just that the new hasn't worn off, but I really like this Doctor and Amy is charming too.


I'm actually surprised that people were so into Tennant's portrayal. I watched a few of his episodes on Netflix recently, and he's so OTT and hammy.

Posted by: misty at June 22, 2010 4:26 PM

I didn't see this properly addressed, but the reason that Amy can't remember Rory is that she was too close to him personally (or that was the explanation that the Doctor gave her as she raised the same objections when he told her to remember Rory and keep him alive in her memory).

Can't wait to see what happens next, if it's as good as Jay says. We'll see.

Posted by: Uncle JR at June 22, 2010 4:30 PM

I seem to be on of the few that's really enjoying the current season of Doctor Who

In this room you are. Oh well, they're not having any fun.

Posted by: Jay at June 22, 2010 4:32 PM

Oh Esme! You just lost me. Christopher Ecclestone is the biz. That man can do what he wants with me in his TARDIS anytime of the day.

BWeaves: I can see how the "last of" can get old in some respect, but there has been a Time War and it's natural that lots of species would have feld their home planets: a universe-wide diaspora if you will. I think he has met some breeders (remember the blobs of fat?) but they're all looking for a new homeland.

Posted by: PaddyDog at June 22, 2010 4:34 PM

That was just bullshit Alaya was giving him, though. Amateur bullshit, in his eyes.

Posted by: Jay at June 22, 2010 4:44 PM

Throw my hat in the ring with the "I'm enjoying this season" folks. It's not perfect, but it is the Doctor, in my opinion.

And Eccleston fowevah!

Posted by: coryo at June 22, 2010 4:44 PM

Did they ever explain why some of the Silurians looked like scaly humans and some looked like Sleestaks?

Posted by: Todd at June 22, 2010 4:47 PM

full disclosure, I have seen all of the episodes aired on BBC and my comments still apply to the episodes that come after this one, though I will not directly reference/spoil any of the episodes after that one.

Aside from a non specific comment that I will leave to the end.

This entire season I've sort of felt dissapointed, not with any of the actors/characters though. Well none of the regular ones at least. I love this new doctor, I dig Rory, and while I'm not in love with Amy, she's pretty cool too. It's just the stories seem so bland and sub par to me. Venice was such a bland story that I can barely remember anything to bitch about on it. The entire Silurian two parter seemed cheap and ridiculous to me, like a giant build up to a giant nothing.

I'm also not digging the botched callbacks to The Russell Davies days. By which I mean the Season long story threads, this crack in time, while not a horrible thing lacks the subtlety that I enjoyed in the tenth doctor (Seeing Rose scream silently on a screen and then flicker away, while no one watched during "Midnight" sent chills down my spine) It's ok when it's actually part of the story like in this episode and Flesh and stone but when the episode ends and leaves just enough time for a pan-to and closeup of the crack? I feel like I'm being forced to wait as the obviously-not-dead guy's opens. (THE END?). (Watch for more of the lack of subtlety in the finale)

On the subject of continuity, it's sort of a mixed bag, while I'm pissed at the sloppy retcon(fine, so the angel killed Bob in a different way to jerry-rig a communicator, why the hell didn't they normal kill the rest of them?) I do like that it tends to happen in strong episodes for the actors. Gillian was great in Flesh and stone as was Smith, and frankly every time this new doctor gets angry at humans (seems to be his thing this season eh?) I am really impressed.

Small maybe spoiler-ish note about the finale: I loved the first part despite the Fuckage mentioned by other posters, and feel it would make a great end to the series as a whole (or start of a new very long hiatus, god forbid) as opposed to a quickly resolved season finale.

Oh and, "Amy's Choice"? Easily strongest episode of the season, in my eyes at least.

Posted by: Mr. Patches at June 22, 2010 4:52 PM

Paddy, I didn't say he wasn't ridiculously sexy and completely awesome. His sad face when Rose gets blasted by the Anne Droid in that Gamestation episode is wonderful, and he's odd-looking but so cool that he pulls it off. I mean, Matt Smith is weird looking but still completely adorable.

Also, misty, I'm totally enjoying this season too.

Posted by: esme at June 22, 2010 4:53 PM

Misty: Don't get me wrong. I'm enjoying the hell out of Dr. Who. I just want it to be BETTER. I want all the pieces to make sense. I just don't like sloppy explanations.

EX. "I didn't see this properly addressed, but the reason that Amy can't remember Rory is that she was too close to him personally (or that was the explanation that the Doctor gave her as she raised the same objections when he told her to remember Rory and keep him alive in her memory)."

My problem with that? If she's too close to him personally, then wouldn't trying to remember him make him go away faster? It just seemed like a bullshit explanation to me. I think it would have been better for Amy to have forgotten the soldiers too, and when the Doctor called her on the radio thingy, for her to say something like, "I'm here alone." Doctor, "Where are the soldiers?" Amy, "What soldiers? I've been here all alone since you left me." etc.

Posted by: BWeaves at June 22, 2010 5:04 PM

UncleJR: I'm not bitching at you. I'm just copying your explanation, because that's how I remember it being explained in the episode, too.

Posted by: BWeaves at June 22, 2010 5:06 PM

I loved the celery comment. I really like the little throwbacks to the older Doctors.

William Hartnell as the ID photo.
Peter Davison's celery corsage saving him because of it's curative properties.
Patrick Troughton's (and David Tennant's) pockets that are bigger on the inside. (OK, that one just gives me dirty thoughts, cough, cough.)

Posted by: BWeaves at June 22, 2010 5:16 PM

I guess all of this would be a lot harder for me to swallow and keep asking for more if the Doctor wasn't always deus ex machina-ing about with his magic wand/sonic screwdriver/easy button like the grand old wizardly god-kid that he is.

I loved (read: LOVED) Nine and Ten, but they absolutely gave some half-cocked explanations for why this or that is possible. "Timey-wimey" and "lots of planets have a North" and "Bad Wolf," etc., etc.

I can't repeat this enough, I love the Doctor, and I love hard science fiction, but they are not the same thing.

"Doctor Who" feeds you bullshit that you would not accept under any other circumstance in any other story but oh hey the I hear the TARDIS it's adventure time!

Do better next time, Moffat, but thanks for doing this well.

You too, Eleven and new companions.

Posted by: coryo at June 22, 2010 5:32 PM

........naaaaaaw, you're still bitchy-ass bitches.

Posted by: Jay at June 22, 2010 6:19 PM

This two parter left me feeling stabby enough to compose a diatribe on the bad things about this series, then I watched Vincent which definitely added to the pile of good things. It’s that sort of a series.

So here's a slightly shorted diatribe. (Yes, I said slightly)

One thing the old school Doctor episodes had was time to tell it’s story. The original Silurian story they resurrected here spooled out over 7 episodes totalling almost three hours and could afford the time to lay out it’s plot and establish it’s characters. Even with a semi decent budget and 30 years of special effects advancement, 90 minutes can’t buy you that.

A quick laundry list of peeves
*Patting the Silurian Doctor on the back for being a good egg when not minutes earlier he was preparing to live dissect your companion (ok he wasn't there, but all he had to do was ask the guy he was with whose name was not even memorable enough to remember)
* negotiations for major hunks of plantetary real estate usually require more than just a couple of your buddies and Neelix whom you met five minutes ago but seems like a nice chap.
“OK, you can have the Gobi Desert in exchange for the technology to convert urine into Chateau LaFite. Amy, pop up and inform President Hu.”
*If there is one more speech on “the best of humanity” from the same fictional universe that spawned Children of Earth, I will mail a thermos of semi-digested kebab to the BBC drama department. Perhaps in his sojourns through human history the Doctor skipped the bits about the Spanish Inquisition, the Holocaust, the Rape of Nanking, Hiroshima, the Gulags, the Pogroms, the partition of India & Pakistan etc etc etc. Sometimes humans are fragile, untrustworthy or simply shittier that the shit that shit would shit and it takes more than a patronising homily about their better natures to convince them otherwise. It’s an RTD-ism that has substituted the Doctors understanding of human nature with an annoying brand of naïve optimism. Previous Doctors realised that firm instruction to NOT HARM THE PRISONER UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES were more effective than “listen guys, just show them how awesome you are”.

There is suspension of disbelief, then there is dangling it by it’s pinky over the edge of a volcano.

I know these complaints could be levelled at a lot of RTD’s work as well, but in a funny way that highlights the problem. When the company is fine and the banter is entertaining, the implausibilities fade into the background. Instead we got a story trying to skate over the plot-holes an character development simply by moving fast.

RTD favoured the big bombastic stuff and he mostly got away with it through the interplay between the characters. It’s a form of misdirection: “look at Rose and the Doctor, Rose-Mickey, Doctor-Rose’s Mum, etc “Hang on, lets just spray all the infected with a shower of multicoloured cures and it will all be fine”. Done. Moffat however is the master of tight plotting and sharp dialogue, who excels when working in more intimate settings- Girl in The Fireplace, Silence in the Library, Blink, etc. No big bads, no interplanetary threats, no “ZOMG the YOONIVERSE IS GOING TO EXPLODE!!!”. When he and his team attempt the Big Bang episodes like this (or Victory Of The Daleks for that matter), their weaknesses are exposed. It’s like watching the science nerds trying to re-enact Glee.

Hopefully next series will be more consistent as the new team come into their own. It has been said elsewhere but it bears repeating/stealing: Eccleston and Tennant might be better actors, but Matt Smith simply is the Doctor. If Vincent, Amy’s Choice and The Lodger are any indication, there is plenty of reason for hope.

Posted by: Squirrelgripper at June 22, 2010 8:19 PM

I am really upset about Rory and so am going to go off on a rant about how him appearing on the hill in the beginning meant that he should have survived.

So I get that Doctor Who is very far from hard science fiction, but they at least tend to be consistent with what can and cannot be done with time. i.e. the Doctor can't realize that a course of action got someone killed and then go back in time five minutes to save the person's life. Post hoc argo procter hoc.

Another way of thinking about it would be, the Doctor is free to mess around with time in the past, because whatever he has done or will do in my past, has already happened in the time line I am living in. I repeat, whether he has done it yet or not, it had already happened for me in my timeline.

I am not saying I necessarily agree with this version of time travel, but it appears to be the version that Doctor Who uses. Why this matters to me is that if they saw Rory on the hill, then we already know that Rory has survived, thus Rory will survive because has already survived. The only thing that I can think of is that the cracks in the universe break all the rules.

So I guess the point is, the death of Rory made me sad, but then my sadness turned to anger cause I feel the story cheated me in two ways. One, they killed him off in one of the lamer stories of the season, and two they snuck (okay fine sneaked but I prefer snuck so go screw yourself grammar police) it in by having it implied from the beginning that he would survive.

Spoiler!!
And to make my anger even worse, having him come back, but a fake him that is programmed to kill made me feel even worse. I was much more happy thinking that the crack in time just sent him back to Roman times.

Posted by: Morgan LaFai at June 22, 2010 9:54 PM

The only thing that I can think of is that the cracks in the universe break all the rules.

I think this is exactly what they're going for.

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And as for the whole "popping up as a Roman" bit, I was initially going to be much more pissed about the Doctor's "sometimes the universe blah blah blah MIRACLES (as performed by Insane Clown Posse)" spiel.

Posted by: coryo at June 22, 2010 10:21 PM

coryo: I really hope it is, but they would have to handle it just right. There are so many ways they can screw the pooch with the return or not of Rory.

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And I think the reason they had Rory return at all as a Roman was so that Amy could get her memory back for when they do solve the crack/really save Rory. Part of my anger over the fake Rory thing was that he had ceased to exist so how could there have been a picture of him dressed like a Roman in Amy's room?

Posted by: Morgan LaFai at June 22, 2010 11:09 PM

Don't mind them, #11. I may have claimed that #10 was irrefutably MY doctor, but how could I resist your goofy smile, your gangly leaps, your bow-legged stride? And yes: bowties ARE cool. I will never remark on any "oddities" in your appearance other than to say you are ODDLY HOT! So, #11, can we take this behind the middle school?

Posted by: Berberuh at June 23, 2010 12:16 AM

"We Keep Killing Rory"

Posted by: Three-nineteen at June 23, 2010 7:37 PM

I know it's long since dead up in this point, but I now take back 70% of the bad things I said up there. They no longer hold true. Totally redeemed itself in the final hour

Posted by: Mr. Patches at June 26, 2010 10:48 PM