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Same Show, Slightly Less Lousy

By Dustin Rowles | Posted Under TV Reviews | Comments (91)



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Most television reviews are based, largely, on the pilot episode. Even when the pilot episodes aren’t particularly decent, you can often tell if the ingredients are there for a decent show (see, e.g., “Better Off Ted”). And while I’ve never received a complaint for basing a review on a pilot episode alone in the past, I got an unrelenting amount of crap for not giving “Dollhouse” a chance, even if I did wait until two episodes had aired, out of respect for Joss Whedon’s past work (and the folks over on Whedonesque said nasty things about me; and not the good, dirty kind of nasty, either). Readers complained that I had not given the show a proper chance, and that “Dollhouse,” by Whedon’s own admission, wouldn’t find its way until the first episode he wrote, which was episode six (not exactly a sage marketing decision).

I’ve now seen seven episodes — more than half of the first season — and I stand by my initial assessment. “Dollhouse” isn’t a very good show.

Lookit: I understand where the Whedonites are coming from. I’ve been there, and I truly appreciate their blind loyalty to Whedon. It took me months to admit that the new Ben Folds album is a pale comparison to his former work. I watched “Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip” until the bitter end, hopeful that it’d eventually find its legs (it had its moments, but never approached anything close to Aaron Sorkin’s previous forays into television). It took me almost a year to fully admit to myself that Cameron Crowe’s Elizabethtown was a terrible movie. Hell: I was one of the few people in America who convinced himself, out of dumb devotion, that Bill Clinton had not had an affair with Monica Lewinsky up until hard evidence proved otherwise. I know what it means to completely blind yourself to a show’s many, many flaws because you want so badly to believe that someone you admire and respect would never let you down.

But “Dollhouse” is a tremendous letdown, and I think in years to come, even Whedon will come around to that acknowledgment. I realize that I’m preaching to a hostile choir, one that’s very likely screeching at me from in front of their computer screen. But I just hate the idea that, in a few weeks, when FOX announces that “Dollhouse” won’t be coming back for a second season (it finished fourth, behind the incredibly low-rated “Friday Night Lights” this past week) that so much energy and passion will go into a campaign to save a show that doesn’t deserve saving. But it doesn’t mean that Joss Whedon’s a failure, of course — he’s still one of the most creative, brilliant voices out there (you need only see “Dr. Horrible’s Sing-Along-Blog” to remind you of that). He just botched a show that he was more or less persuaded to do out of his own loyalty to Eliza Dushku.

It’s OK to pick your battles. This is just not one worth fighting.

*Spoilers Below*

Granted, it has gotten better, if only by a little, although even some of the more faithful viewers must have lost some of that faith after episode three (“Stage Fright”), one of the worst episodes of television I’ve seen in months. That one, where Echo was imprinted with the personality of a back-up dancer in order to save a pop-singer who wanted a stalker fan to kill her, was the embarrassing low-point of “Dollhouse.” It was cheesy, poorly acted, poorly scripted, and did nothing to advance the show’s mythology. Episode four (“Gray Hour”) was a poor attempt at a heist episode that wasted the talents of Anson Mount and completely crumbled, limping toward an unsatisfying, illogical and too-easy conclusion. Episode five (“True Believer”), where Echo was programmed to go undercover as a blind woman in a Waco-like religious cult, was silly and tedious, an entire episode written, seemingly, only to further demonstrate what we already knew: Laurence Dominic doesn’t like Echo and was willing to try to kill her to make that point.

Episode six (“Man on the Street”) has been the best episode so far, but for an episode where we all expected the show to turn the corner, it was immensely disappointing. Yes: The focus turned more toward Paul Ballard’s (Tahmoh Penikett) investigation of the Dollhouse, and we did learn that there was someone on the inside of the Dollhouse trying to surreptitiously uncover its existence by programming Echo to offer Ballard some strategic advice. But, the big kicker — that Ballard’s neighbor/girlfriend, Mellie (Miracle Laurie) was a doll — seemed kind of obvious given Mellie’s series’ long awkward demeanor (but then again, given Penikett’s performances so far on the show, I wouldn’t rule out the possibility that he, himself, is a Doll). Moreover, the documentary wrap-arounds were lame and gimmicky, and below Whedon, and the whole Doll erection subplot was kind of weird and pointless, except to ultimately reveal that one of the handlers wasn’t handling his Doll properly.

What worked? Eliza Dushku wasn’t in the episode that much, and Patton Oswalt ever-so-briefly breathed some life into the show by, at the very least, providing a small dose of humor that mixed well with pathos. Oswalt was outstanding, and his screen time has been the best part of the show so far. Episode six also dug a little deeper into the mythology, providing a nice segue into episode seven.

Episode seven (“Echoes”) could’ve been the best episode of the season, were it not marred by several huge flaws that have been plaguing the show from the outset. First of all, Whedon attempted, finally, to bring out some full-fledged humor by introducing an airborne drug that screwed with people’s inhibitions. It might’ve worked, too, but for the fact that it was so out of character for the show. It felt stilted, awkward, and cheap; it only really worked with Adelle DeWitt (Olivia Williams), who finally got to reveal something beneath her icy exterior, with humorous results. It didn’t work as well with the other characters (particularly Echo’s handler, Boyd (Harry Lennix) and Dominic, who were both laughably bad, like something out of a Dan Schneider Nickelodeon show). The episode also repeated the mistake of some of the earlier episodes, drifting toward an easy end (in this case, the effects of the drug simply wore off).

But what was really telling about the episode is that, the further it dug into Echo’s backstory, the less I cared. Eliza Dushku not only plays the show’s lead character, but the least exciting one. We got a fairly strong hint as to why she entered the Dollhouse program, and how long her contractual commitment is (five years), but there is absolutely nothing compelling about her former life. She was an animal rights activist / college student whose boyfriend was killed by the very organization that funds the Dollhouse? That’s it? Where’s the grand conspiracy? The layered, philosophical backstory were so accustomed to from Whedon?

What was even more dispiriting, however, was that episode seven revealed more of Echo’s former life than any other episode, and it was still difficult to tell Echo and her true identity (Caroline) apart. They both have that vacant, icy glaze about them, and they are both being played by Dushku, so what we’re getting is the same character. Thankfully, James Contner (who directed episode seven) used different filmstock for the flashbacks, otherwise I’d have never known.

Oh, and another thing: They’ve been threatening to put Echo in the attic since episode three. How long can that threat carry weight when 1) Echo is the show’s main character, and 2) they threaten it in every freakin’ episode?

In sum: Unfortunately, “Dollhouse” is a lousy show that’s managed to become slightly less lousy over the last few episodes. However, it’s got very little room left to maneuver. These imprint-of-the-week episodes are clearly not working, and the show’s empty mythology has backed Whedon into a corner. Presumably, Echo will turn double agent in subsequent episodes, feeding Ballard more clues, until Echo eventually snaps out of it and goes rogue, but that will belie the show’s central premise. However, given the almost certainty that Whedon only has five more episodes to work with (all of which have already been filmed), I hope that he at least has a satisfying conclusion to wrap up the series. And yes: I’m enough of a sucker for Whedon to stick out the entire season/series in the hopes that there’s a little of that Whedon magic at the end of the run. I’m stupidly optimistic that way.

Dustin Rowles is the publisher of Pajiba. You can yell at him via email or in the comments below.









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Comments

Anyone else have an inappropriate crush on Boyd?


No?
Just me?


OK

Posted by: rayliota at March 30, 2009 3:03 PM

Caroline is annoying. Echo is...weird. I keep thinking that she will snap and kill everyone in the Dollhouse in a blind rage, but she keeps on disappointing.

The problem is that Eliza Dushku and Joss came up with the idea for this show together over lunch, or something. Big giant ass kicking NO NO.

I will still watch it though, because it's honestly not as bad as most crap on tv. Not exactly a stellar recommendation, but hey, whatever.

"Friday Night Lights" is my alternate reality. It can never cease to exist.

Posted by: rayliota at March 30, 2009 3:09 PM

I lost all interest in this show by episode 3. It just didn't hold my attention at all and left me counting the minutes to Battlestar Galactica.

So if it gets canceled, I won't be upset.

Posted by: Jim at March 30, 2009 3:09 PM

"the whole Doll erection subplot"

Does that mean what I think it means?

They both have that vacant, icy glaze about them, and they are both being played by Dushku,

Redundant.

Posted by: SaBrina at March 30, 2009 3:11 PM

SaBrina, it is actually a 'man reaction.' Possibly the only funny line in the entire series so far.

Posted by: rayliota at March 30, 2009 3:14 PM

I don't disagree with any of this. I'm a die-hard Joss fan, but I just cannot buy the basic premise of the show. Somehow, I was able to believe vampires and assorted monsters, cowboys in space and singing superheroes/villains, but this? Nope. I just can't get past the idea of why someone would hire someone who "thinks" they're an expert in something rather than hiring an actual expert in something. Other than the sexin fantasies, it doesn't make any sense to me.

Additionally, I just don't give a crap about Caroline/Echo. I did care a bit about Mellie, but her personality changed so much from the first few episodes to this past episode that I don't know that I really give a crap about her either.

I'll keep watching/recording it because I'm Joss's bitch (and I have no life to speak of), but I'm just not on board. If it went away tomorrow, I wouldn't mind.

Posted by: Lainey at March 30, 2009 3:17 PM

I maintain that the show could (or possibly will - there's still hope) become an ensemble show. Episode 6 was great, and focused on everybody, not just echo (who is boring). The show has lots of different subplots going, however he continues to follow the ones we don't care much about (person of the week, caroline) and not advancing the exciting ones (alpha, victor/sierra) nearly enough. Lets hope the last episodes of this show are actually consistant.

also, I want to like Topher. but he's a creep.

Posted by: chayes at March 30, 2009 3:24 PM

I am enjoying it more than I was. I'll keep watching, but even if it DOES come back, I'm not sure where they can go with it.

Posted by: Killa at March 30, 2009 3:25 PM

I gave this show a good try. I watched the first 3 episode. I was bored. I sort of have a life so I go out on most Fridays so it is in a bad time slot. I had it on this Friday cuz I was told it was getting better. I think I was lied to. Maybe not really cuz it was a little better than it was before but not by any huge margin. It just didn't hold my attention and within the first 10 minutes I was on the computer while it was just background noise. I probably glaced at the tv maybe once or twice but there was really no reason to.

Posted by: Tra at March 30, 2009 3:32 PM

Not all of us are screeching, Dusty baby (I can call you Dusty baby, can't I? I feel like we're that close). Just so you know.

While I agree that "True Believer" didn't do much for the story, it was an enjoyable episode in and of itself. Although, that could've been because of all the eye candy (sociopath preacher guy, hot curly haired guy, and The Youngest Sutherland). And last week's ("Echoes") was, I thought, a lot of fun, especially, as you say, the stuff with Adele (to be honest, I enjoyed Topher's interaction with her as well, and Dominic's apologies to Echo for trying to kill her). I disagree that it didn't work with Boyd, because they purposefully gave us only a small amount; any more than that would have been too much, and then it definitely wouldn't have worked. But the little snip they gave us, I thought, was pretty amusing. Also, it was nice to see him smile for a change! I think that's a series first. I also agree, to an extent, that the drug wearing off is a bit of an easy answer (although with an airborne memory slash mood altering drug like that, it's actually kind of sensible).

Here's the thing for me: It's kind of a toss-up about it being "blind loyalty". Joss has done amazing work, is a fantastic storyteller, and knows how to build a universe. That doesn't mean I don't think the man can make mistakes, or that I worship weirdly and creepily at his altar for salvation, as someone posited in the previous review; it's just that I like his work, and I think it's a slow build, and I'm willing to put in that time. I like the premise of the show. I like the idea behind it. Yes, some of those episodes do not seem to have contributed to it, but I'm not going to walk away because of that. Most people who walk away from Buffy do so in Season 1, when the show is still finding its footing.

Methinks this is one of those cases where we're going to have to agree to disagree. Oh, and also, if the preview of next week is any indication, the "imprint of the week" thing may not be an issue anymore, hm?

Posted by: Anna von Beaverplatz at March 30, 2009 3:32 PM

Eh, I still like it OK. It won't kill me if it's canceled, but it's entertaining enough. When you get old enough, you learn to manage your expectations of TV.

I agree that her character is less interesting now that you know she was one of those earnest animal rights people who broke into a lab. Yawn. Who cares? Not Dushku's fault, really. I was expecting her to be a hardcore criminal or the girlfriend of some guy who turned out to be a drug dealer or whatever...

I actually did not see the neighbor subplot coming. Maybe I'm slow.

I will say I caught "Better Off Ted" and it was freakin' hilarious. The "lab meat" will haunt my dreams for a long time to come.

Posted by: Slash at March 30, 2009 3:34 PM

P.S. I'm really sorry my comment is 3,000 words.

Posted by: Anna von Beaverplatz at March 30, 2009 3:38 PM

I'm enjoying it somewhat, but only for the subplots. Echo bores the living hell out of me. I too am holding out hope that it either magically becomes awesome, or there is a neat ending to this season. But I don't see either one happening, first for the reasons others have mentioned about Joss backing himself into a corner and second because Joss is not the type to give us closure at the end of a season. I believe he has said that he likes "to wrap it up with a big bow made out of questions" or something to that effect.

Posted by: Blonde Savant at March 30, 2009 3:40 PM

My willing suspension of disbelief is a total slut, so I can get past all but the most forehead-slapping plot moments. My main problem is that the character I care least about is Echo. I like her handler; I like Agent Ballard; I even like DeWitt's thinly-veiled dominatrix -- I don't give a crap about Echo. As she is the character who drives the plot, that makes it hard for what could have been an interesting premise to gather any steam.

Joss, darlin': Eliza Dushku is a great smart-ass sidekick and/or flippant adversary, but she cannot carry a show on her own.

Posted by: ErinM at March 30, 2009 3:40 PM

I'm a huge fan of Joss Whedon and ... You, Dustin, have just put everything that I have been thinking about Dollhouse into words brilliantly. That won't stop me from watching the show till the end, though.

Posted by: jason at March 30, 2009 3:42 PM

There is nothing on tv right now that doesn't disappoint on some level. FNL is a show I wish I liked but I just seriously don't care enough about American Football or Small Town Texas to give a crap about those people.

I agree with all the points above, and it's why repeats of the space cowboys play more often in our household than anything currently on the air.

One of the things that peeves me out is the costume design on Dollhouse. They dress Dushku like a whore, and then expect people to take her seriously. The clothes are as bad as anything Alyssa Milano wore on Charmed and there was some funky shit going on there. The other is that Topher needs to go on a date with my fist, that condescending loser.

sigh, that said, I'll continue to watch Dollhouse b/c it's just entertaining enough to keep me watching. And I did like Mellie, even when she turned out to be a Doll - shoulda seen that coming, but it still surprised me.

Posted by: Stella at March 30, 2009 3:44 PM

Heretics! All of you!

Can't you see that Joss Whedon has struck gold yet again? The show isn't just about Echo, each character is a seed that, when properly fostered will bloom into...

Eh. I don't have the energy. You win this round, Dustin.

Posted by: Macafee at March 30, 2009 3:46 PM

P.P.S I didn't see the Mellie thing coming either, and I was excited to think that she might just be a sleeper agent of some kind rather than a doll, so I was a bit disappointed that she is a doll.

Posted by: Anna von Beaverplatz at March 30, 2009 3:50 PM

Amen.

This is just a terrible show. And it'll be dead soon, so who cares? It was doomed from the start.

This whole IT GETS BETTER I SWEAR is annoying, because with a show that HAD to get viewers (outside of Whedon's die-hard) fanbase, he really didn't have that luxury. Promising that the pain gets better doesn't take away the pain. And when it gets only slightly LESS bad, you're still in pain. Just a horrible, stupid show.

Posted by: figgy at March 30, 2009 3:51 PM

Eliza Dushku is a terrible actress who ruins every project she is involved with. Not that there was much left to ruin with Dollhouse.

But I'll keep watching until it's axed, because Joss Whedon owns my soul.

Posted by: Smithy at March 30, 2009 3:57 PM

Dustin,

YOU JUST DON'T GET IT! Oh, we're not talking about Kevin Smith?

You actually get it just about perfectly.

In no universe can I accept that even a ninja-imprinted Echo would last 10 seconds against the "I must break you" boxing Ballard. It's just physics really.

I hope they get to why the engagements are so short. If you had the ability to program somebody to be the best negotiator, bank robber or whatnot, wouldn't you want that person for longer than a weekend? I'd make a combo Jack Welch/Steve Jobs and let him run my company, or I'd program an army of dolls to find Bin Laden. This is actually what I hope Adele is referring to when she says she is behind the research that the Dollhouse is funding.

Posted by: ed newman at March 30, 2009 3:59 PM

The problem with Dollhouse, is that Echo is the main character, or at least Dushku is.

But think about it like this - if the Lead was Boyd, the good man in a bad situation, and he had to Protect this girl from everything, even herself, even though she sometimes has great power, she doesn't know how to always use it -

well, that sounds a bit like the Mal/River relationship, right?

And we all loved that.


Posted by: Withnail at March 30, 2009 4:15 PM

Yyyyeeeeaah, I'm still watching, but I feel about the same as Dustin. I mainly just want to see what is up with "Alpha" and what that whole story is.

Tamoh is like a human tree. He's rrully kyute and it's a shame his acting is only slightly better than a mannequin's.

Posted by: Jerce at March 30, 2009 4:25 PM

Really trying to like the show, really. Topher is a creepy cousin to Wash in Firefly, he doesn't really work for me. But. Most tv is worse; I'd rather watch something fail epically than watch most regular offerings.

Posted by: Bodach at March 30, 2009 4:28 PM

I think Amy Acker needs more face time on the show. She was great on Angel. Maybe they should try to steer the show more in her direction. Elisha Dushku is just bad. That back up singer episode was pretty damn horrible.

Posted by: E at March 30, 2009 4:33 PM

Oh, also, am I the only one who CAN'T STAND the theme song? Whenever it comes on I feel like taking something really sharp and stabbing my ear drums again and again.

Posted by: E at March 30, 2009 4:37 PM

The only episode I've seen was the one with Patton, and even then it mainly served as background noise while I made myself some food.

I blame all of the show's horribleness on Eliza Dushku. All of it! She's like a female Ted McGinley.

Posted by: dave at March 30, 2009 4:38 PM

Actually, I don't think it's quite as bad as you say, but it definitely isn't as good as it could be. I still think the premise is interesting even if it isn't as good as Whedon's other shows. It seems like Whedon doesn't think he has much time left though, either. He's revealing a lot rather quickly - I didn't expect to find out about Echo's past until much later, and obviously thought it would be more exciting. If the show doesn't get cancelled, it seems like there won't be much else to figure out. Of course, maybe he has a plan for a more complex mythology if it does get extended.

Posted by: Jen at March 30, 2009 4:46 PM

Just a slight correction -- I didn't direct episode 7. James Contner did. I directed episode 12, which has not yet aired.

Apologies. iMDB.com lies. Noted and corrected. -- DR

Posted by: Tim Minear at March 30, 2009 4:47 PM

Watched the first three episodes and had to check my pulse part way through to make sure I wasn't slipping dangerously close to comatose. While the Dushku's ass is mesmerizing, I'm convinced even it could deliver a more memorable performance than her as Echo. If something completely uncharacteristic occurs to redeem this series, I'm depending on you 'jibans to let me know. Until then, I'm avoiding it for the sake of my health.

Posted by: Leigh Hacksaw at March 30, 2009 4:51 PM

I still watch it because a shirtless Tamoh Penikett is worth the wooden acting, soulless plots, and irritating last minute solutions (really, Joss, I'd thought better of you...) - but not for much longer. I would rather see a show helmed by the Victor/Sierra characters because at least those people can take on different personalities, inasmuch as they've been allowed to thus far. I do like Boyd, and his little drugged out moment was funny, primarily because it was short.

Also, I want to slap the hell out of Topher. Can't we have an incredible genius who isn't a total dick or someone on the autistic spectrum? Cuz that would be refreshing.

I don't think this show can survive its fairly awful beginning. That doesn't break my heart.

Posted by: Reba at March 30, 2009 4:54 PM

I pretty much agree with all this. I LOVE Joss, but this is not doing anything for me, which hurts a little to admit. I keep forgetting it's on and then find I have two episodes to watch. It's impossible to get attached to and care about a character who has no personality of their own. And you're right, the Caroline we have seen isn't endearing herself to me either. I can't root for her. I did like Mellie but would have been more shocked had she not been a doll.

I'm also hating Topher. I know he's been likened to the Xander character, but dude doesn't have half Xander's charm or humour. He's just an ass. And kinda creepy.

Still, I'll probably watch til the end. I can't see it radically changing any time soon, but...maybe? :(

Posted by: Carrie at March 30, 2009 5:10 PM

Wait... what?! Tim Minear reads Pajiba!?

I just went, "omigodomigodomigodomigod" like an ubergeek meeting Lucas. (George Lucas, not Pajiba commenter Lucas.)

Posted by: Anna von Beaverplatz at March 30, 2009 5:23 PM

Just hang in there for a few more episodes when it's revealed that Rossum Corp spawned the Reavers.

Posted by: hugeinjapan at March 30, 2009 5:24 PM

Anna, I was more amused by the 'just a slight correction'. Diss my show all you like, but don't put my name on the wrong episode! That's class that is.

Posted by: Carrie at March 30, 2009 5:26 PM

AvB - glad to know I'm not alone in my nerdgasm.

Posted by: Lainey at March 30, 2009 5:28 PM

AvB: totally seconded the Tim Minear thing, but then I deflated because you can type anything for "name" and well, Hitler's Mom has been known to post here on occasion as well.

Posted by: Steven Lloyd Wilson at March 30, 2009 5:34 PM

Alright, this needs to be said, and I'm a huge fan of Buffy and Firefly. Joss Whedon is horrible at casting people. Fuck, he can barely keep them together when he does cast them. The only actual actors he's found are Nathan Fillion and Tony Heed, that was fucking luck.

Nicholas Brendon drank all his credibiliby away. Sarah Michelle Geller has made some of the worst movies of the decade with Scobby Doo 1 and 2 and Cruel Intentions. Alison Hannigan made fucking Date Movie. Seth Green made Without a Paddle. Amber Benson has basically made skin flicks since Buffy. Charisma Carpenter has... holy shit that's so bad, I shouldn't mention it to spare her dignity.

As for, Eliza Dushku, Whedon is the only person in the world I've ever seen who says she's a good actress with a strait face.

All that name recognition, that die hard fan base, and inhuman amounts of clout, and this is what they've done with it? It's not just because they need the money, they're terrible actors and actresses. My god, I'm infuriated. Joss Whedon, my god.

I'll get fucking shot for this comment.

Posted by: George at March 30, 2009 5:37 PM

That's pretty weird, IMDb does show Tim Minear as the director, and up until about ten seconds ago, TV.com had it as someone named James Solomon. I went to another site, then back to TV.com, and it had changed to David Contner during the interim.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised that IMDb isn't infallible. I guess I should be surprised that they don't make more mistakes.

Posted by: rikkitikkitavi at March 30, 2009 5:37 PM

You listen to me, you little fuck! I was burning the works of that hack Freud long before you were a burning itch in your vater's liederhosen!

Heil mein sohn! Fucker!

Posted by: Hitler's Mom at March 30, 2009 5:41 PM

George, you're insane. Amber Benson has been writing novels since Buffy. Alison Hannigan has been outstanding in How I Met Your Mother. Anthony Stewart Head, while he hasn't done much else, was fantastic in Buffy. Adam Baldwin is stellar in Chuck. In fact, the entire cast of Firefly was a fucking goldmine - they just haven't had much to do since then. You've got maybe two examples that hold up - I'll give you Gellar and Dushku, but that's basically it.

Just because an actor has made a bad movie since then, doesn't somehow discredit their prior work. That's a ridiculous premise.

Posted by: I Love Beets at March 30, 2009 5:58 PM

I was really looking forward to a new Wedon show. But what we've got is too formulaic and based on one character who was poorly cast. Eliza Dushku just isn't a good enough actress to pull it off. She lacks the charisma and range. Just compare Dollhouse to The United States of Tara. Toni Collette embodies those other personalities. Eliza plays each personality the same.

Posted by: Brian at March 30, 2009 6:04 PM

I'm still watching too, but just to find out Alpha's story. I don't care much about Echo anymore.

However, this morning when I got to work I labelled the bottom drawer of my desk the "Drawer of Inappropriate Starches.". I'm still laughing over that one. Let's have the Adele and Topher show instead....

btw, I'm a Whedon-fan... better luck next time, Joss.

Posted by: nancy at March 30, 2009 6:18 PM

ha! Nancy, that was my favorite line of the whole show! Drawer of Inappropriate Starches. Sounds like something out of Gaiman or Pratchett.

Posted by: Stella at March 30, 2009 6:29 PM

Bah. I start a goddamn blog just to write about this stupid goddamn show (and, yes, I'm a huge Whedon nerd, but even I can admit that this show just isn't doing it... yet. Maybe, given a chance, it could be better, but as of right now I'm still not sold), because it wasn't getting any mention here and people wanted to be able to discuss it other than on AvB's FB profile, and you go and review the damned thing.

NOT FAIR, Dustin. do you hear me? NOT FAIR. Now no one is going to read my blog! *sobs*

Bah.

Also, I'm overwhelmingly meh about it.

Posted by: lizzieborden at March 30, 2009 6:30 PM

I think Whedon's biggest mistake was casting Eliza Dushku in the lead. Seriously Joss, we appreciate your loyalty and all, but she's not. a good. actor.

Oh well, at least we got to see Boyd punch the hell out of guys 2 episodes in a row.

Posted by: Sarah at March 30, 2009 7:10 PM

For me, the most revealing moment of the show's failing was "Grey Hour", where Sierra is imprinted with the same personality as Echo.
While playing the same role in the same episode, it was impossible to ignore Dichen Lachman acting circles around Eliza Dushku.
Embarrassing.

Posted by: Scott at March 30, 2009 7:21 PM

"I’ve never received a complaint for basing a review on a pilot episode alone in the past,"
---
How many complaints have you gotten for basing a review on a pilot episode alone in the future?

Sorry, pet peeve. I'm a smartass to people who say they're "making future plans" or "learning from past mistakes" too.

Posted by: bucdaddy at March 30, 2009 7:53 PM

I have to agree with the dude who hated the theme song. It sounds like a bad douche commercial.

Who here thinks Ballard is Alpha?

Posted by: Jesus Tralfaz at March 30, 2009 7:54 PM

OMG TIM MINEAR READS PAJIBA?? He wrote for Wonderfalls!! And FIREFLY! and ANGEL! OMG I AM SO EXCITED RIGHT NOW.

i literally stared at his comment for five minutes trying to decide if he really commented or not. I am so excited!

Posted by: dene at March 30, 2009 8:23 PM

I disagree with you, Dustin. I really do. Yes, eps 1 - 5 were weak (but filled with promise) and if it hadn't been for the subplots in Stage Fright, that ep would have been a total loss. I'm a big girl. I can admit that.

However, I think Man on the Street was significantly better. Not perfect, but quite enjoyable. I especially appreciated the exploration of consent from different angles. The action was fun, the Mellie/Ballard side plot was really well done and hey, Mark Sheppard!

Echoes was silly and fun, and we got to learn about Echo's backstory, which made her a bit more interesting. Topher, who was just the creepy, stilted computer guy is finally interesting and not stilted, which probably means he'll die next episode. The interactions with Topher and Adelle were hysterical, and I loved that he took off his pants while tripping. I thought that seeing the characters outside their normal, controlled personas was fun and made them all more human and interesting. Even Dominic, who I really couldn't be bothered with until now.

If you don't like it, don't watch. And don't let us big, scary Whedon fans bully you into it with our nasty e-mails and comments. We may be a bit rabid and more emotionally invested than we have reason to be, but we're not all bad. Maybe we're oversensitive because of the show being on the Faux network, re-writes already being demanded and so forth.

Besides, there are other equally rabid fan bases out there. Maybe you could pick on somebody else for a while?

Posted by: Jgirl at March 30, 2009 9:28 PM

I tried to be patient with Eliza Dushku, but by Godtopus she is one of the worst actresses who ever lived. I waited for that hyped sixth episode when it was all supposed to get better, but that stupid bitch was still there. Yes there was that little twist with the neighbor doll - but it would have been a better twist if they replaced Eliza Dushku with a real actress.

Posted by: Cindy at March 30, 2009 10:06 PM

Goddammit Jesus, you beat me to it. That's been my pet theory since moment one and really I'm just watching to the end to see if I'm right.

And if you don't like Eliza, try this: Picture Summer Glau playing Echo and suddenly the whole show seems a million times better. She's a far more captivating actress to watch waif around empty-headed and cold-eyed. Isn't the whole Dollhouse concept just a different version off the River Tam: Brainwashed Super Killer story anyway? Dollhouse is what happens when the Alliance perfects their techniques.

Or Dollhouse is what happens when a phenomenal writer agrees to do a show with a questionable actress and an awful studio. Fox killed Firefly with bad management, remember that? So why is no one blaming Fox for the sucktown that is Dollhouse?

Posted by: Tilly at March 30, 2009 10:11 PM

It pains me to admit it, but I agree with Dustin: Dollhouse mostly sucks.
I wanted to love it, but Dushku's terrible acting and the lame writing make it impossible. And enough with the hooker-esque outfits, already!
Mellie turning out to be a doll is no surprise, but I hate it. I liked her better as the akward stalker-neighbor.
Tahmoh is hot and I like Adele, but that's about it.
I'll keep watching though, because it's Whedon.
That's just how I roll....

Posted by: AlwaysConfused at March 30, 2009 10:33 PM

Seriously agree on the costuming choices - no non-sex worekr will wear thight-high lace stay-ups anymore. This is not the world of Clueless. I enjoyed last week's episode but I agree that Echo's back story is boring and not at all compelling. So why make it explicit? We all could have imagined more scintillating scenarios by ourselves. I do not understand Whedon's casting aesthetic and probably never will. To think that Xander was a GOOD casting choice in light of Dollhouse blows my mind.

Posted by: Farfalina at March 30, 2009 10:50 PM

I'm still watching the show, possibly out of blind loyalty. But I can't shake the following thought:

If Grace Park had Echo's part, the show would be ten times more watchable.

Think about it! We know she's capable of playing lots of different characters (including a blank slate), and she's especially capable of the kind of subtle nuance that Dushku can't handle. Obviously this will never happen, but I wish it would anyway.

Posted by: Becca at March 30, 2009 10:55 PM

There really is only one reason to watch this show.

Its not the story line.
Its not the acting.
Its not the writing.

Here's a guess:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=1538567&id=14409357519&ref=mf

Posted by: L.O.V.E. at March 30, 2009 11:12 PM

Why'd you have to drag Dan Schneider into this :(

Posted by: Michelle at March 30, 2009 11:12 PM

It's possible that Echo as 'Alice' was meant to be a nod towards Alice in Wonderland. Or Through the Looking Glass, you know what I mean. I wear thigh highs all the time, but the length of my skirt always covers them up. It is a tad Clueless.

I used to think Eliza Dushku was unbearably hot. Now I want to stab her in the eye. This is what "Dollhouse" has done to me.

Posted by: rayliota at March 30, 2009 11:40 PM

I was a hardcore Whedon-phile through the Buffy/Angel series (never cared for any of his other work), and agree with many of the negative comments DOLLHOUSE has received....so WHY am I obsessed with this show? Seriously, the pilot STANK!The only reason that I kept going was because I knew the background story and it seemed interesting--even though it has become somewhat more formulaic than I expected from Joss. I don't anticipate it lasting more than 13, so I hope there's at least some resolution of the various plotlines.

Posted by: Marie Braden at March 30, 2009 11:55 PM

The problem is some of Joss Whedon's so-called fans who want him to just re-do the best seasons of "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" and won't allow him to try something different.

"Dollhouse" has its flaws, but its unmistakably a Whedon creation, and even "Buffy" took two seasons to find its groove.

I like "Dollhouse" so far. It has a lot of potential, but it needs time to build on it.

Posted by: Danielle Ni Dhighe at March 31, 2009 12:20 AM

@rayliota

Boyd: Do you know how to shoot a gun?
Echo: I have four brothers....no Democrats.

I think if this show didn't try so hard to be serious, it would be a little better, but even then, it's like they're purposefully trying not to be clever and on top of that they think their premise is so shocking, that not much more needs to be added on top of it.

I think they have the wrong focus groups.


@chayes

I think episode 6 made a promise for something episode 7 almost immediately broke. It just doesn't feel like the right people are trying hard enough, because at the end of the day, none of Joss' shows had that strong a premise, which made so many episodes adaptable to different genres and stories, but this show has a premise so strong, it doesn't want to try and work outside of it.


Somehow, that saddest thing about it, is that the bad guys in most of these episodes have been so terribly lame.

1) A pedophile who gives Echo asthma and doesnt do much of anything until he gets gunned down easy.
2) Not too bad with the adventure lover turned psycho [but that's the last we heard of that]
3) An annoying fan who the singer wants to kill her
4) The idea that the cops might be coming soon and no ones smart enough to do anything
5) A phoney religious nut, who believes his own bs and gets shot down easy
6) Tahmoh, which went over really well for the most part
7) That kid who accidentally infected everyone (including himself), because he needed a distraction to leave.

These all suck.
I would've thought the 'Russian' would make their move by now and make a run at the Dollhouse, where are any other dolls, why isn't there a real badass that they have to take down? Can't they show more than one mission in an episode? Can't they have a flashback mission?


Im gonna keep watching this because i like Hulu better than the news at 6. Plus I'm a big fan of one hit wonders. [Seriously, how was My Own Worst Enemy, better than this show?...surprisingly a lot better and dealing with almost an identical setup, only brilliantly well, albeit too expensive to keep on air]

Posted by: Paterick at March 31, 2009 1:20 AM

YOUR NOT WRONG!!!

I will give joss and eliza five minutes of my time anyday, but this just aint working.

Eliza'a acting is stillted at best and the stories are simplistic and not very involving, I saw the november thing coming a mile off. The other characters are of more interst than Echo and that aint saying much. The whole show does not grab ya by the balls, its more a dull slap to the butt, this show aint no buffy, firefly, horrible and no where near Battlestar Galactica (except the last episode of galactica which blew, hey Ron stop turning your main characters in to gods or angels ie sisko and starbuck, repeat much?).
As for the abuse you have been getting, well lets just say the word fan comes out of fanatic and in the cold light of day as much as I dig joss's work this show sucks!!

Posted by: kyle at March 31, 2009 1:32 AM

It SUCKS!

'nuff said.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at March 31, 2009 1:49 AM

Very insightful Slim.

Posted by: Pookie at March 31, 2009 2:52 AM

I truly enjoyed episode 6 (except for the people on the street interviews, which always come of as pretentious. Seriously, the only reason to feed your viewers different takes on what's happening is because you think they can't figure it out themselves...) and it gave me the slightest glimmer of hope for the series.

That glimmer of hope didn't encompass the idea that the show would actually have a second season, but I thought that I would at least be able to enjoy the second have of the run.

Then episode 7 came around and just crushed me. In episode 6 many things happened and a lot of them were interesting and/or important, but in episode 7 the only thing that really happened was the reveal of Echoe's terrible cliche backstory.

The whole deal where the drug broke down the doll's memory block blah blahs could have been interesting and could have furthered the story of all the dolls in interesting ways, but it didn't.

Instead of following up on episode 6 and taking the show somewhere relevant episode 7 instead decided to go the route of "Lulz I'm hi, that be funii rite?" "Totaly dood!!11 P.S. I M lurve dem amiminamals."

I think I would prefer that they cancel the show early and put it out of it's misery.

Posted by: Aaron at March 31, 2009 4:27 AM

Do you know, until I read this review, I had forgotten it was on? I missed the last three episodes - except I didn't miss them at all.

I guess I'm just tired of "let's make an excuse to dress the lead woman like a hooker all the time!" shows. The only show on TV with a brilliant woman who doesn't wear cleavage down to her navel is NCIS. All the CSI:BigTownUSA shows use any chance they can to put their barely-dressed female characters on display. I'm tired of seeing female characters with professional jobs in outfits that would get me reprimanded at work.

Posted by: elsworthy at March 31, 2009 6:32 AM

I love the JossMan, but not so much that I can convince myself Dollhouse is on his level. It's watchable, but it just doesn't feel like a Whedon show. I'll watch it for as long as it runs, because I live in hope that it'll pick up, but if it does get Firefly'd I won't be distraught.

Posted by: James at March 31, 2009 7:03 AM

I just can't make up my mind.

On the positive side of my mind i see this: Joss has created a new show... not another Buffy, not another Firefly. That's what he does. He comes up with an idea that is completely different to the other things he has done. And we have to adjust to that.

On the negative side of my mind, "Echoes" kind of ruined things for me. Because I don't like Caroline, and I don't like her back story so far. The humor was kind of 'look at how funny we can be' as though in response to people's complaints about a lack of humor, and the lack of real presence from Alpha and Ballard really made the excitement level go down.

"Man on the street" was top notch television. "The Target" was great television.
"True Believer" was good television
The rest is just 'okay'... and i gotta say, that does dissapoint me. Even Buffy's first season, which was far from a brilliant standard, had consistently good dialog, acting and plot lines that were half funny/ half emotional. The balance was just right.

Maybe i just need to give the episodes a re watch... it might just be the negativity after the last episode that's getting me down. I really was so excited about the show and it's potential until last week... even though it made me laugh out loud, it still gave me a funny feeling in my tummy.

Posted by: Becky at March 31, 2009 7:12 AM

I think if Tim Minear really is reading these comments he needs a drink. Boozehound, any suggestions for the right libation to numb a mountain of criticism?

Posted by: ed newman at March 31, 2009 8:52 AM

To be honest, I think this entire review stems from a dislike of Elisa. Now, I'm not saying I enjoy her acting ability, but if someone had the ability to actually convince that different roles were being played, I'd buy into it.

As a Whedon-fan, I'm being patient. The show has improved from the first five episodes, which were really just snippets -- if you missed them, so be it, it made no difference. But with episodes six and seven, I feel like there has been an improvement with the story line.

For those expecting another Buffy/Firefly, they're going to be disappointed. C'mon, how long did it take for some to "buy into" vampires and space cowboys? Seriously.

Posted by: Lol Monster at March 31, 2009 11:44 AM

I feel like I have a pretty low tolerance for bad TV, and I am really enjoying Dollhouse. The writing is getting more personality, and there are still quite a few mysteries I am excited to find out more about. It occurred to me during the last couple episodes that the Doll House is a really interesting metaphor for control-who has it, why, how do you obtain it for your own life. After surviving 8 years of the Bush administration, and now the economy it's wrought, it's a theme worth exploring.
Plus, that fight in the kitchen was bad ass. And how excited am I that the sleeper doll has a normal woman's body?

Posted by: sleater at March 31, 2009 1:58 PM

I was actually thinking of Tim Minear today...just randomly. Weird.

I second replacing Dushku with Glau. The thought makes me deliriously happy. Actually, the thought of not having to watch any more of Dushku's "acting" makes me see unicorns playing on rainbows. If it's cancelled, I honestly won't give a shit. Hopefully it will be, then Whedon can do something else. With someone else.

Posted by: Joker at March 31, 2009 2:36 PM

I do wonder how many of the complaints with the show trace back to memos from Fox. If this were Joss's show totally and completely from the start, and Fox had never insisted on some of the changes they insisted on, would we be having this conversation now?

We'll probably never know. But I do wonder.

Posted by: mr_subjunctive at March 31, 2009 2:38 PM

@ Lol Monster: "For those expecting another Buffy/Firefly, they're going to be disappointed. C'mon, how long did it take for some to 'buy into' vampires and space cowboys? Seriously."

Seriously?

Firefly: first episode

Buffy: episode 3, "Witch"

Posted by: Jasper Provencal at March 31, 2009 3:48 PM

The show lost me when its big reveal was that Caroline was a sainted animal rights activist. Aw fuck, now I want her to remain a doll rather than get her life back, because at least she's some use to the universe as a doll.
"Oh no, a monkey in a cage! I can't even imagine the terrible things they're doing to it."
Well if you can't imagine the terrible things, they may not actually exist.

Posted by: BoatGirl at March 31, 2009 4:39 PM

Ummmm...
Hell: I was one of the few people in America who convinced himself, out of dumb devotion, that Bill Clinton had not had an affair with Monica Lewinsky up until hard evidence proved otherwise.

Was that intentional...? Or am I actually just 12 years old?

Posted by: Odnon at March 31, 2009 8:29 PM

WOW, Dustin. Good review. I am glad to see that you both waited, and carefully watched episodes 3-6. Even though I rankle at most of your descriptions, I believe your sincerity. I'm also impressed with your (what might be called) 'loyalty'. You haven't missed an episode! Hmmm...

It has to be difficult (for Mr. Whedon) being a creative person, and yet obviously doing what was needed to appease admin at FOX. It makes me wonder if network people do that to every series, but it is tougher to notice it when the show is totally formulaic - like those "Law" shows (save me).

While some people have seen early episodes as 'unfocused'. I offer rather, that the show has been trying to push boundaries, and see what works.

Some have described as 'network execs giving up' on Dollhouse. I see it differently. The numbers are picking up, it is getting (lots) more interesting, and there are still a few episodes to go.

I think despite re-lent-less over-characterization as a 'troubled' production (just drop it, already), the show is proving it has the juice.

Posted by: Mike K at March 31, 2009 9:50 PM

If you didn't love Ep 6 then clearly the show just isn't for you. But I'm loving it and think it's far better than most of the crap on TV.

Posted by: whatsername at March 31, 2009 9:58 PM

For a large number of reasons I've found DOLLHOUSE to be one of the most interesting shows currently on TV.

You are entitled to your opinion. But dismissing a show this good so glibbly frankly doesn't make me want to know what your opinion is on any other show.

I'm not tuning DOLLHOUSE out, but I am tuning you out.

Won't be back.

Posted by: Robert at April 1, 2009 7:27 AM

So...we're entitled to our opinions, Robert, but only if they agree with yours? Otherwise you'll leave? Boo-hoo.

I love Whedon. Firefly is my all time favorite show. Buffy and Angel were awesome. But Dollhouse is just not very good. From what I've read, Whedon's other shows were built around solid ideas that he had floating around in his head for a while, whereas Dollhouse was something he came up with on the fly because Dushku had some deal with Fox for her own show.

This last episode was painful in how hard it tried to be funny. It felt so forced. The dolls themselves seem to malfunction so often I don't know why anyone would risk using them rather than actual experts with real memories. And the big "reveals" of some characters to be dolls just makes it seem like the majority of the population are dolls. I'm pretty sure that FBI dude is a doll too--seems to me I've seen shots of him working out in the Dollhouse before the show aired.

In the next episode some of the dolls are supposed to "wake up", which could be interesting except it would sort of end the show, so no doubt Topher will come up with some cure and everything will go back to normal by the end.

Yes, the show sucks less than most TV out there. But it still pretty much sucks.

Posted by: DeadBessie at April 1, 2009 8:42 AM

On Caroline's backstory - what you've said, as far as I understand it, is not correct. What we've seen so far is *day 1* of the backstory, not the whole backstory. There's two years left to find out about.

I must admit that I'm not totally into the story yet either, or at least I wasn't until ep6, but it's certainly growing on me, and I'm waiting in anticipation for the next week to get here each time. It's also one of the few series on that has actually made me THINK in recent times. Some good laugh out loud moments too, and not just in the last episode.

Isn't it great how we're all different? :-)

Posted by: Zaph at April 1, 2009 8:54 AM

@Robert, who dramatically swirls his opera cloak before making his final farewell: "You are entitled to your opinion. But dismissing a show this good so glibbly frankly doesn't make me want to know what your opinion is on any other show."

...

"glibbly" [sic]

I don't think that word means what you think it means.

Posted by: Jasper Provencal at April 1, 2009 11:44 AM

I stopped reading after your comments on sitcking with Studio 60 til the end and saying that you liked Elizabethtown. You have lost points on my cool-o-meter :-/

Posted by: Angelmonster at April 1, 2009 4:29 PM

I am a loyal Whedonite. I've watched every episode of Buffy at least 3 times, if not more. I went to see Serenity in theaters 4 times. I purchased Dr. Horrible on iTunes twice, because I lost the first copy, and again on DVD.

I'm also not blind to his flaws or failings. Angel had some great episodes, but overall as a show I felt it was mediocre. Buffy Season 6 had some truly abysmal episodes. Firefly took me a while to get hooked on (though it eventually did grow on me quite a bit). But generally speaking, with Joss it seems as though if you hang in long enough and suspend your disbelief, you get some true gold.

Dollhouse has not been the terrible show that some people are claiming it is. (Personally, I think they just feel let down... many people who are excited to the point of obsession end up childishly doing a 180 if they are disappointed instead of recognizing both good points and bad.) It's been a decent show so far... definitely far better than most of the crap that is out there... but under par when compared to other Whedon shows. That's fine by me. It's still better than most stuff out there, and I'm still excited to watch it every week. I also do think it's starting to pay off more and more.

I understand that not everyone is going to enjoy it the same amount... I just wish people weren't so quick to be virulent about it just because they feel a little let down.

(Also, for people complaining about Dushku's acting chops... has it occurred to anyone that they don't want her personality to COMPLETELY disappear? After all, as the show is revealing more and more, the dolls aren't completely wiped of personalities like a chalkboard, the memories are more or less buried. This makes sense... how could it be possible for a doll to have a composite event if those memories no longer existed in your brain? Food for thought.)

Posted by: Amy at April 1, 2009 5:27 PM

I hate to say it, but I have to agree with Rowles. I'm a die-hard Joss fan, but Dollhouse is tedious and uninteresting. I wish Fox would've just given Angel or Firefly another chance.

Posted by: Joss Fan at April 2, 2009 11:55 AM

This is the only page I've found so far where Anna Von Beaverplatz references me that still has comments open (refer to the post Lying Day fallout for details), so I'm posting something.

HEY THERE. HOW YOU DOIN', GIRL?

Posted by: Lucas at April 4, 2009 4:28 AM

My thoughts exactly. I feel the same way about Battlestar Galactica's season 4. Slowly spiraling out of control until it crash lands—without survivors. Who knows, maybe Joss has a trick up his sleeve. Probably not.

Posted by: Jesse at April 9, 2009 11:04 AM

I'm a huge fan of Buffy and Angel and my history with both shows are a lot different of other people. I started watching Angel, than I saw the episode I Will Remember You and got curious about the little blond girl (besides crying my eyes out for the couple). So, went to Buffy, saw Amends first, got hooked and the rest is history. Dr. Horrible.. what a piece of internet work was that... loved it to death. I watched them as much as possible since there is nothing really good in Brazilian free tv. So, yes, I'm a Whedon fan. So, I like DH, but I'm not crazy about it, it did not have the same feel of reality as Buffy and Angel did. May be crazy, but you could really believe in that world. Episode 6 was an exception. That was a real Joss's work. Eliza was perfect in that episode. I just keep asking myself how much the network interfered with his work. My suggestion is that IF there will be a second season, they could use a new doll or even move to a knew dollhouse.

Posted by: Cilene at April 10, 2009 2:01 PM

I totally agree. My boyfriend had me watch an episode on hulu earler tonight, and I was dumbfounded. I told him, if someone put a gun to my head and asked me to tell him or her the plot of this episode, I couldn't do it. I literally did not know who was who, or what was going on. Fat guy rents a chick to play his dead wife. Woman fights guy in restaurant kitchen that appears to be deserted. Where the hell are the kitchen staff?

Something else that floors me: my boyfriend is a member of Mensa, yet he is a huge fan of science fiction that is the worst, most far-fetched crap I've ever been forced to watch. I am not against all science fiction, but Christ Almighty, I want science fiction to be logical and believable. I lent him a great science fiction book, Lucifer's Hammer, and I don't even think he read the damn thing. It captivated me when I was a 12 year old and I still think it is the most realistic science fiction I've ever read in my life. No aliens, no mutant creatures, no stupid made up languages, just a simple premise that could actually happen: what would happen if a giant comet struck the earth and wiped out a significant amount of the earth's population, along with the technology we've grown accustomed to? How would we survive? How would it affect us psychologically? How do we keep it from happening in the future?

I also found Dollhouse rather sexist, even though I only saw one episode. One of the dolls was being raped (woman as victim) and fat rich guy hires a hot chick to remind him of his dead wife (woman as property. For just once, either on TV or in the movies, I'd like to see a fat plain chick get a hot rich guy, but because I don't have money and I don't live in Hollywood, I'll never be able to produce that, and I won't ever see that, because no one else has the balls to produce it.

I thought Firefly sucked too, and Dollhouse won't make it beyond the first season. This crap just isn't believable, and I find it astonishing that my boyfriend thinks this is good. Yet he thinks everything else sitcom-wise sucks, even if it is tops in the ratings and is well-written and funny. He can't understand why people liked Everybody Loves Raymond (if something is on the air for nine seasons, it obviously has something going for it) and refers to it as "shit", but goes on and on and on about Firefly (which aired for a whopping ELEVEN EPISODES. I know sitcoms and sci-fi are different genres, but frankly, I can't think of any quality sci-fi, and please don't get me started with Star Trek. Yeah, he thinks that's brilliant too.

Posted by: Gloria at April 15, 2009 2:30 AM

This show needs to be put out of its misery.

Yes, I did watch the episode with Patton Oswalt because I saw the ad for it during Terminator. PO rules.

...I wonder if Terminator is going to be back next season...

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