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Which of These Five Hollywood Subjects Sold Out the Hardest?

By Dustin Rowles | Posted Under Seriously Random Lists | Comments (55)



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There’s a lot you can count on in Hollywood. You can count on Sarah Polley. On Catherine Keener. And on Parker Posey. They may take the occasional studio paycheck, but they are indie actresses, and you’ll never see any one of the three topline a theme-park franchise. Michelle Williams and Leonardo DiCaprio may take on big roles, but they’ll always be interesting. Nic Cage and Robin Williams and Morgan Freeman and John Travolta will take any paycheck they are given, and while you might consider them sell-outs — the occasional meaty role notwithstanding — they’ve always been sell-outs. They’ve never had much discretion when choosing film roles, while guys like Robert DeNiro and Al Pacino have been basically forced into sell-out status by their age. There’s few roles left for them, and while the same is true of Jack Nicholson, he mostly just avoids shitty films by not acting at all.

What bugs me, however, are those actors and directors who start out as one thing — interesting, risky, ambitious — and then sell out that thing the second someone waves a million dollar bill under their nose. They’re not just taking a huge paycheck role, they’re changing their identity from someone we admire and respect to someone who is clearly doing to add an extension to their mansion. And while I certainly respect an actor or director’s decision to make millions and millions of dollars to support their family’s lavish lifestyles, in some cases they do it at the expense of their audience. They gain our trust with interesting movies, and then they draw us into their crappy family films. It stings to see an actor you admire not just take the occasional big payday, but give themselves completely over to the franchises and tentpoles.

But who has sold out the hardest, who has transformed the most from who they were to who they are? Ladies and gentlemen, I submit to you Exhibits I - V.

a426050b1025f894247bdc149dd760e8.jpgRobert Downey, Jr: Don’t get me wrong, I still think an awful lot of Robert Downey, Jr., and if there have to be huge, empty spectacles, then I appreciate that Robert Downey, Jr. makes them watchable and fun. But on the other hand, once Robert Downey, Jr. became Tony Stark, we lost an interesting, introspective, and fascinating actor. He’s headlining two franchises now — Iron Man, which is already showing signs of fatigue, and Sherlock Holmes, a fun but ultimately trifling franchise that, as of this week, has already hired a screenwriter for a third film. And what does Robert Downey, Jr. do between filming these huge empty movies? He makes a huge (mediocre) comedy, Due Date with a director, Todd Phillips, who has been reworking the same idea in the decade since Road Trip. And what have we lost? We lost the guy who was nominated for an Oscar in Chaplin, we lost the guy with the amazing supporting turn in Wonder Boys, we lost the guy who tracked down a serial killer in Zodiac, we lost the guy who took on a small role in Good Night and Good Luck, and maybe most painfully, we lost an actor who would deign to star in a low-budget movie like Kiss Kiss Bang Bang. Now, his trailer costs more than the entire budget of that movie, and as long as he’s going back and forth between Iron Man/Avengers and Sherlock Holmes, we’re not going to get that guy back any time soon.

bottlerocketavclub.jpgOwen Wilson: Wilson has been a sell-out for so long now that many of you may have forgotten where he originated. He wasn’t just Dignan from Wes Anderson’s Bottle Rocket and Eli Cash in Wes Anderson’s The Royal Tenenbaums, he actually co-wrote those films with Wes Anderson. He also co-wrote Rushmore. Wilson sold out at the first opportunity he had, and he’s barely looked back since. Yes, he’s continued to star in Wes Anderson’s films, but without his writing voice, those Wes Anderson projects aren’t as magical or as hopeful as they once were (Anderson exchanged Wilson’s sly whimsy for Noah Baumbach’s misanthropy, and his movies reflect the unfortunate change). Wilson sold out hard, too: Marley and Me, You, Me and Dupree the Fockers and Cars franchises, and fucking Marmaduke, people. Dignan became the voice of a goddamn talking dog, and he hasn’t written a thing in a decade, to boot. At least he’s got another Wes Anderson movie on tap (Moonrise Kingdom) before he sells out once again to provide the voice of a turkey in a time-traveling family film. Yes, a time traveling family film.

NE5tYa8aD8D885_1_1.jpgDavid Gordon Green: I saw David Gordon Green on a shuttle bus at Sundance back in 2007, where he presented the last interesting movie he’d make before selling out, Snow Angels. He seemed like a quiet, thoughtful guy who made quiet, thoughtful movies. He was an amazing talent, and he directed indie films that felt like good alt-country songs: George Washington, Undertow and All the Real Girls. His milieu was grey skies and blue collar folks. At one point, speaking of independent directors, he even said of Kevin Smith: “[He] the only one I don’t like particularly. I respect most of them. He’s the one I can’t identify with in any way. He kind of created a Special Olympics for film. They just kind of lowered the standard.” David Gordon Green’s last two movies were Pineapple Express and Your Highness, the latter of which lowered the standards for the Special Olympics. What’s next? Another dumb comedy, this one a profanity-fueled Adventures in Babysitting starring Jonah Hill called The Sitter. This is what’s become of David Gordon Green: He’s become the big-budget Kevin Smith. I hope he gets paid a lot of money for his crappy comedies because it’s cost him a small but devoted fanbase.

tumblr_l9qijfvr981qdwoza.jpgJohnny Depp: Everyone that grew up in the late 80s and 90s loved Johnny Depp: He did not give a shit, and that’s why we respected him. He didn’t give a damn about box office; he took on diverse and interesting roles. It took him 15 years to make a movie that made more than $100 million (and then, only barely: Sleepy Hollow made $101 million). I specifically remember him saying that he didn’t care about that money, that he wanted to work with interesting directors and take on roles different from the rest of Hollywood. He made Benny and Joon and one of my favorite movies of the 90s, What’s Eating Gilbert Grape. Also Donnie Brasco and Dead Man so he could work with Jarmusch, and Nick of Time, a bad movie with a cool real-time concept, and Chocolat and Blow and Ed fucking Wood. Now? Earlier this year, he said something to the effect of: “I’ll keep making these Pirates of the Caribbean movies as long as they keep making money.” So much for the Johnny Depp who didn’t care about box office. He even conceded that the second and third movies didn’t make much sense. No matter. He got paid, and he used that box-office clout to star in The Tourist with Angelina Jolie, one of the worst movies to come out of that much star power in recent memory. I appreciate that he’s doing Rum Diary this weekend to remind us that he once was a fascinating actor, but Hunter S. Thompson would’ve scoffed at the Pirates franchise (although, he might have tripped his balls off watching Alice in Wonderland). What’s Johnny Depp doing after that? More Pirates movies, Dark Shadows (which has potential) and the now greenlit again The Lone Ranger, a sell-out flick perhaps even bigger than Pirates. We may never see the actor from Gilbert Grape again.

boyz_n_the_hood_xlg ICE Cube crop.jpgIce Cube: Mrs. Pajiba-hyphenate and I had a lengthy debate during a long car drive about Ice Cube, and whether he should be celebrated for making the transition to family films and, thus, expanding his audience to a new generation or derided for selling out. And with all due respect to my wife, she hasn’t seen Are We Done Yet? or Are We There Yet?. From where Ice Cube began, in South Central Los Angeles rapping “Fuck tha Police” with with seminal hip-hop outfit, N.W.A, to starring in two family films about suburban assholes, I don’t think anyone has sold out harder than Ice Cube. This guy went from hardcore rapper to badly remaking a Cary Grant comedy. I had such immense respect for Ice Cube, for the way he transitioned from music to film with Boys n the Hood to the phenomenal Barbershop movies, and Friday in between (we won’t speak of the two sequels, one OK, one horrible). Somewhere along the way, Ice Cube gave up. The man who wrote half the lyrics to Straight Outta Compton and co-wrote Friday. The man who had albums called Kill at Will, AmeriKKKa’s Most Wanted, and Death Certificate . That man is now an exec producer on a low-rent TBS sitcom based on Are We There Yet?. Doughboy has a goddamn clothing line of hoodies with headphones built in, people. Does anyone remember he was in Higher Learning and the terrific Three Kings? No, because XXX: State of the Nation blighted all that out. That new generation of fans won’t know him for early work that pissed off Focus on the Family; they’ll only know him as that nice man who guest starred on in the “Are We There Yet?” TV series and the upcoming sell-out remake of 21 Jump Street alongside — who else? — Johnny Depp in a cameo.










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Comments

I once dissed Dizzy Gillespie (remotely, of course) for making a disco album in the seventies, but was then put in my arrogant place by a musician within earshot. A gig's a gig, and you never know when things will dry up.

I know there's a financial gap between Dizzy and Depp, but we shouldn't think that these guys owe us anything. On the other hand, I can see the potential problem with "selling out": it's not that we'll never see these actors in meaty roles again, it's that we might never see anybody in meaty roles again.

Posted by: mograph at October 25, 2011 3:07 PM

DeNiro is actually famous for taking any role as long as you meet his quote.

Posted by: jet at October 25, 2011 3:10 PM

What, no Gary Oldman? he's the greatest actor of his generation and he's been disappointing me by serving up ham-stuffed schlock for at least a decade.

I pray that "Tinker, Tailor, Solider, Spy" nullifies the above statement.

Been over Depp since his face cropped up all over everything they sell at Hot Topic.

Posted by: cheryl at October 25, 2011 3:13 PM

In before Pookie reams you for crapping on the brother in 3... 2... 1...

I admit, it's hard to fathom how far from his roots Ice Cube has come. (Whither Ice-T, though? From Cop Killer to pretending to be a cop.) And Johnny Depp - yeah, that pretty much defines selling out.

But these guys don't owe us anything. They're just trying to make a buck like everybody else.

Posted by: MM at October 25, 2011 3:19 PM

What about that dude that "directed" The Green Hornet?

Posted by: googergieger at October 25, 2011 3:22 PM

I may be in the minority (I surely am), but I like the bleak turn that Anderson's movies took after Wilson's departure. Tenenbaums remains my favorite of his films, but I truly enjoyed the darker turn represented by The Life Aquatic, The Darjeeling Limited and, of course, The Fantastic Mr. Fox. Much as I love the film, I for one don't miss the cutesy whimsy of Rushmore.

Posted by: Martin at October 25, 2011 3:26 PM

Posted by: PissBoy at October 25, 2011 3:27 PM

Wait a minute: you'll go after Morgan Freeman for being a sellout but give Samuel L. Jackson a complete pass? Come on, now...

Posted by: Jerry at October 25, 2011 3:33 PM

When I start to get angry at entertainers for whom I have respect selling out, I try to remember this:

I would do far far shittier things for far far less money.

Posted by: Paultera at October 25, 2011 3:34 PM

I nominate Diane Keaton for this list.

Posted by: PaddyDog at October 25, 2011 3:36 PM

I maintain that John Cusack sold out. He just wasn't very good at it.

Posted by: KateNonymous at October 25, 2011 3:36 PM

You know what happened? Every one of these guys did what we all have to do eventually: they all grew up and got day jobs.

RDJ gets to be Stark and Holmes, yeah, but he's not trying to kill himself with drugs anymore.

Depp is no longer as hot-n-sexy, and I will bet there are the days that his knees bother him a bit and damn, do I need glasses to read this script now?

And it's just too damn much effort to stay as angry at the world as Ice Cube once was. There's a lot to love in the world, and Barbies cost money.
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Posted by: Meander at October 25, 2011 3:39 PM

But, MM, Ice-T fully acknowledges his own capitalist capitulation. He worked hard at pimpin' those women until he'd gotten himself into a position where he could pimp himself (in his own words). He has a keen appreciation for the fact that he's whoring himself out these days.

Posted by: Jerry at October 25, 2011 3:40 PM

Posted by: The Other Agent Johnson at October 25, 2011 3:43 PM

Accumulation of wealth seems to have a strange effect on most people--past a certain point no amount of wealth is ever enough. (At least that's what I observe since I've never had the pleasure of accumulating anything but debt.)

One would think that an established and filthy rich actor like Depp would be prone, now, to doing the films he feels like doing because he has no money worries.

I'm reminded of Joseph Heller once saying that yes, there are plenty of people in the arts and entertainment industry who have made far more money than he but that he has something they don't: "enough."

Perhaps "enough" is what those greedy bastards at the top of the heap in the world really need instead of more money.

Posted by: NeoCleo at October 25, 2011 3:55 PM

Ah, Jerry, you're right, of course.

But PissBoy stills wins with Ice Cube. Dustin, you just need that graphic to win the argument with your wife.

Posted by: MM at October 25, 2011 3:55 PM

While I totally agree about Owen Wilson, I thought he was great in Midnight in Paris. If only he'd do more things like that.

Posted by: letsspoon at October 25, 2011 3:57 PM

I thought the point of being an actor, and specifically a spectacularly successful one, was that you never had to grow up and get a real job. You get to do whatever you want. That said, I do think that it is unrealistic to expect someone to maintain their edge after they become part of the establishment. And with that said, I am always kind of disgusted when people have the money and clout to do any kind of work they want and proceeed to make dubious choices. Are they convinced that they are still edgy and doing "the work" they say it's "all about". They could at least shepherd some other people along. Is it because it's never their money they are spending? They might want to do a tiny little movie, but who's going to pay for it? Not them no matter how many gazillions they have. And with that said, I get REALLY disgusted by people with stacks and money and the pull to get things going who STILL DON'T nurture young talent or even make their own important movies.

[Pacino screed redacted]

I would have expected Steve Martin to be on this list, but that's a whole other post. That's the "but you showed such promise" article about all those folks who were wafted in on clouds of early glory and then fell to earth with a sickening thud as the goodwill we felt toward them was slowly leeched away. Seriously, that should be the title of the article. Wait. I'm pretty sure that's been covered here recently. Nevermind.

Anyhoodle, KateNonymous makes an excellent point. What happened there? It was like he made his play for A-list mainstream status, added some smaller film credits, and imploded.

Posted by: Mrs. Julien at October 25, 2011 4:00 PM

I will always love Owen Wilson as Dignan and for this -

The crickets and the rust-beetles scuttled among the nettles of the sage thicket. "Vámonos, amigos," he whispered, and threw the busted leather flintcraw over the loose weave of the saddlecock. And they rode on in the friscalating dusklight.

Posted by: Mrs. Julien at October 25, 2011 4:05 PM

Sour grapes. If some jackass gave you a lot of money to do a crappy movie or two or three, would you turn it down?

I didn't think so.

Posted by: Matthew Reed at October 25, 2011 4:06 PM

Steve Martin? Eddie Murphy?
Though they both sold out quite a few moons ago now.

Posted by: morgaen at October 25, 2011 4:17 PM

Whether or not I would turn it down is in direct proportion to how much money I already have. That's kind of Dustin's point. So yes, I would turn it down if I was already rich and didn't need the money to keep the wolves from the mansion door. That's the what the money is for! It gives you security and freedom simultaneously.

Posted by: Mrs. Julien at October 25, 2011 4:18 PM

"Ice Cube ... is not for the pop charts."

Right.

Posted by: agent bedhead at October 25, 2011 4:37 PM

Wow, I didn't know the guy who made Snow Angels was the same person who made Pineapple Express and Your Highness. That . . . really hurts my brain and honestly makes me sad. I really liked Snow Angels and remember thinking I would have to watch whatever else the director did.

Damn.

Posted by: Sean at October 25, 2011 4:39 PM

Does Mr. Ice T count on this list? He seems awfully warm and fuzzy on Law & Order SVU compared to his Cop Killer days.

Posted by: Bob Frapples at October 25, 2011 4:50 PM

There's a mighty long list of musicians who did this as well.

Posted by: Matt at October 25, 2011 4:53 PM

The Other Agent Johnson - Yep. That's what did it for me too.

Posted by: Riles at October 25, 2011 4:54 PM

Don't steal our Canadian treasure, Dustin.

Sarah Polley doesn't even like Hollywood.

Posted by: citizen_cris at October 25, 2011 5:12 PM

Depp doesn't bother me. I think he does Pirates because he genuinely loves playing Captain Jack. It's not his fault Tim Burton movies have become blockbusters. On paper, The Tourist was promising, that's why is was such a let down. He's still playing off the wall characters, just in bigger movies. After Chocolat, I half expected him to finally cave in and give up the crazy roles to play the romatic lead, so I'm just glad he didn't do that.

Posted by: Kate at October 25, 2011 5:22 PM

I believe any actor will "sell-out" if they are offered the right combination of money and role. Did Depp cash in on the pirates movies? Sure but he's also said numerous times that he likes the character so it's not like he's doing it just for the money. He likes playing Cap'n Jack and he's getting paid huge money. Seems like he's living the dream to me.

Posted by: logan at October 25, 2011 6:03 PM

I don't care if these guys "sell out" or do too many crappy films in a year or whatever. Here's what I care about: Was it a good movie or a bad movie? Did it entertain me or was I bored? Was it funny or was it trying too hard?

And so on.

I mean, don't most professionals (of ANY profession) hit a peak and then it's kinda valley valley valley mini-peak valley valley, etc?

Seems like its just evolution.

Also, I don't really give a rats.

Posted by: klingonfree at October 25, 2011 7:05 PM

Yes, I will always long for the days when Robert Downey Jr. was in low budget amazing movies such as Weird Science, Air America, and Only You.

If you look at his career, you see a lot of hits, a lot of misses, and that period in the early '00s when almost no one who would hire him - this was the time when he "deigned" to take those parts in The Wonder Boys, Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, and Good Night, and Good Luck.

Posted by: Three-nineteen at October 25, 2011 7:18 PM

That's twice in 15 minutes I've heard or read the word "milieu". I'm feeling quite cultured.

Posted by: jen at October 25, 2011 7:33 PM

The only difference between Ice Cube and Ice T is that T is still banging a whore. Going from "Copkiller" to cop show where he basically arrests himself every day is a much bigger sellout than settling down and doing dumb family movies.

Posted by: Protoguy at October 25, 2011 11:22 PM

Sorry, dude. You lost me at Robert Downey Jr. Everything he does is a GIFT. To the UNIVERSE (except that Due Date thing).

Seriously though, you gotta give people permission to change their priorities and interests. Even actors. Very few people can keep up the same level of passion, drive, and fire they had between 18-30. It's strange to expect it of them. People change. I'm glad that a bunch of these actors are now simply having more fun at the movies, and that we can along with them.

Also, you're lamenting Ice Cube's maturing from a gun-toting, cop-hating, glowering gangster/rapper into anything that is not that? Seriously?

Posted by: BiblioGeek at October 26, 2011 2:14 AM

Also, you're lamenting Ice Cube's maturing from a gun-toting, cop-hating, glowering gangster/rapper into anything that is not that? Seriously?

I still maintain his opening verse to "Straight Outta Compton" birthed gangsta rap and in a single move eliminated most of the corporate rap of the late 80s.

I mean, "Ice Cube is crazy as fuck"? Not anymore.

As for the larger issue, it happens to all. Orson Welles, Lawrence Olivier, hell, Star Wars was supposed to be Alec Guinness taking a quick paycheck. He had no idea it would become what it became.

Posted by: Fredo at October 26, 2011 2:53 AM

No. Nonono. Nononoooo. NO! Johnny Depp can't make a cameo in 21 Jump Street. He hated being on that show. He gave fantastic interviews about how it made him feel like a "product". What the fuck, dude? Respect... gone.

As for RDJ, I saw him do an interview on Jonathan Ross and it made sense. He said it was nice to make movies people actually watch, and that he was sick of suffering for his art when no one actually saw the final product. A sell out he may be but man I bought his justification.

Posted by: Morgan LaFai at October 26, 2011 3:52 AM

The conspiracy theorist in me thinks Ice Cube was systematically neutralized through his film career.

Then again, I really think that his priorities just changed as he got older. Possibly to be involved in more projects that his kids could be fans of and whatnot.

Posted by: lameaim at October 26, 2011 4:54 AM

Christ, a lot of these comments along the lines of "you'd do it too for that money" are really depressing. I might do something pretty crappy for a lot of money NOW, but that's because I have no money right now. (But then again, I have principles, so it's actually pretty unlikely I'd make something I considered artistically invalid.) As a working actor making about three American films a year for twenty years, Johnny Depp was in absolutely NO NEED of extra money when he went all Caribbean Pirates on our collective arse - and none of these people need the money either. I hate this shitty defence of them - this "bah, why not? Who would begrudge them?" half-arsed reasoning. Piss off - this is supposed to be their craft, their art and it's grotesque that they should sell themselves for bucks. This "anyone would do it too" defence just doesn't work, and is intellectually lazy.

Posted by: Caspar at October 26, 2011 6:23 AM

I don't begrudge Depp for Captain Jack. At the time everyone was ridiculing the studio for making a movie based on a theme park ride. I'm not sure anyone expected it to become a massive hit. And the role itself was right in line with the quirky characters he's always drawn to.

Posted by: ed newman at October 26, 2011 7:53 AM

Downey's jump the shark moment was when he went all vinegary school marm on Ricky Gervais at the Golden Globes. As a former drug addled (I don't believe the former part, he's just moved on to prescription drugs) ex-con, he's got a lot of nerve passing judgment.

I don't get why he's so beloved now. He seems like a snarky asshole who's bitter because he can't party like it's 1989 anymore.

Posted by: Andrew at October 26, 2011 8:19 AM

This article is obnoxious. So people you think are cool are only allowed to take roles that you think are cool? Seriously? A job is a job. A big paycheck is always better than a small paycheck (assuming what you do to earn it is legal) and when you have no other discernible skill but "acting", you act when you can.

Posted by: the other Courtney at October 26, 2011 8:27 AM

I don't think RJD sold out. He was close to Linsay Lohan territory when he dug himself out and took any job where someone was willing to hire him. I think he's grateful that anybody wants to hire him and he's not going to turn down a mega-franchise. He won't even say anything bad about Mel Gibson, because Gibson hired him when nobody else would.

Posted by: BWeaves at October 26, 2011 10:38 AM

Snow Angels was a giant stinking pile of horrid crap. No love lost on any douchebag responsible for its existence.

Posted by: Squirrel at October 26, 2011 10:57 AM

Occupy Hollywood!

Posted by: , at October 26, 2011 11:02 AM

When you said: "No, because XXX: State of the Nation blighted all that out." you made an error. The name of the 2005 movie Ice Cube sold himself out for was "XXX: State of the Union"...

Posted by: Nicholas Klotz at October 26, 2011 12:15 PM

I have to agree that in RDJ's case, I'd rather see him in silly, fun stuff like Sherlock and the Marvel films than hear he's in jail again? Let's face it, we all sort of expected him to die.
I mean the man was screwed up. But now? He's a together, emotionally healthy adult, with a regular income, a new position in society as a role model(I don't know any five year old in the west right now who doesn't own at least two pieces of Iron Man Merc) which demands responsible behaviour of him.

It kind of feels like dissing actors who have kids then take on family friendly roles so their kids can see their work...I agree, but in RDJ's case, I kind of prefer the sell out.
He's still interesting and he has plenty of time left to make the films we want to see, as he matures yet still. Which, and i can't stress this enough, HE MAY NEVER HAVE HAD THE CHANCE TO DO BECAUSE OF ALL THE WILD LIVING.

The rest of these bitches sold the fuck out though. What the HELL 'Cube?
I have to defend Ice-T's downfall, he never made family friendly stuff when he transitioned to film(or did he? I've never seen him in anything family friendly) and even though he now plays a cop, part of me feels like that's his own maturity and change in attitude showing through. In interviews, he's obviously very aware of the power of the image of his former life. I like to think he's playing a cop in part to teach his young fans something. Responsibility or summat. Or how to appreciate a slice of Chris Meloni, what ever.

Posted by: Nadine at October 26, 2011 1:18 PM

Ice Cube scores major sellout points because it doesn't seem to me like he needed to go that way. After all, his records as well as movies like Boys & Friday were major successes, no? I can excuse someone like Downey, not only because I think his mainstream output is really enjoyable fare & nothing wrong with that, but the guy needed a break pronto. But Cube? He was coasting on his talent, so I don't really get why he needed the fluff fare.

Posted by: raouldukejr at October 26, 2011 1:29 PM

Thoughts:

-RDJ was in A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints a few years ago, surprisingly not bad. I've always liked him as an actor because in every movie there's at least one scene or one line where I feel it's his own personality shining through and not the character. Still feel that about his role in Less Than Zero.
-I heard (and I want to believe) that Depp said in an interview he does some of the kid friendly and animated things because he has children now and he's glad they can watch his movies.
-I've hated Diane Keaton forever, although I'll give her a pass for the Godfather films. Always seemed like an uptight bitch in real life (and always wondered when she'd come out of the closet).
-Owen Wilson's voice is fine. Owen Wilson's broken Play Doh nose is not. I can tolerate him in The Royal Tanenbaums. I want to destroy his face even more in most anything else.
-As an eight year old white girl I remember being scared of Ice Cube, because he looked like he just didn't give a fuck (and because he could swear and I wasn't allowed to.) The older I got I appreciated him in Boyz N The Hood and Higher Learning, then rolled my eyes at Are We There Yet? which was basically as godawful as anything Tyler Perry could serve up.
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Posted by: scorzi at October 26, 2011 3:22 PM

Hilary Swank

*

The day when strangers fight over how I should pose for my pretty, pretty pictures to merit the zeroes in my swollen-like-oedema accounts cannot come soon enough.

Posted by: Jo 'Mama' Besser at October 26, 2011 8:46 PM

To be fair to RDJ, he was going to do Gravity, but then Cuarón took for-fucking-ever to try to find a replacement for Angelina Jolie.

Posted by: Maureen at October 26, 2011 9:49 PM

I smell a shitload of film school rejection letters among these comments. I could care less about the morons who believe Ice Cube or Ice-T ever had any credibility or artistic integrity.

(Although, Surviving the Game gives Ice-T a permament get out of jail free card as far as I'm concerned.)

Johnny Depp and Robert Downey Jr. wanna play on pirate ships and pretend they're superheroes; bully for those motherfuckers. That's exactly what I was doing when I realized I wanted to act. Accept your own failure of a life and stop throwing stones at the people talented enough to not be you.

Sincerely,
Percy Applebottom

P.S. Eat a dick, Eat my dick, Grow a mega-dick in a secret underground lab and eat it.

Posted by: Randy Braden at October 27, 2011 7:31 AM

Add Clarence William III and Christopher Walken to this list. Please. The waste of talent always hurt my heart. Then I laugh at their stupidity. It never fails.

Posted by: Candy at November 1, 2011 12:39 AM

@Randy Braden: ABSOFUCKINLUTELY!!. Totally agree, I also sense that many here are in the Film School Rejection Club. Here's a thought: Instead of hating those actors/artists etc., for achieving success where you could not, give it another shot yourself...pick up your crazy heart and give it one more try. In any event, just move the HELL on with YOUR LIFE.

Posted by: Austin Pendleton at November 2, 2011 9:09 AM

I always thought Johnny Depp was an overrated hack. Like his bestest pal, Tim Burton, he has fooled a great many people by convincing them that quirkiness equals talent. Not only does this emperor have no clothes, I don't believe he ever did.

Posted by: tdelamont at November 3, 2011 8:01 AM