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The "Fetch" Effect: 8 Actors that Hollywood Has Tried, and Failed, to Make Happen

By Dustin Rowles | Posted Under Seriously Random Lists | Comments (88)



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Taylor Llamautner, the pug-nosed Robot created in a petri dish of muscle, hairless wolf, and retardation, is the latest actor Hollywood attempted cram down our gullets against the wishes of our gag reflex, but as we saw in its $10 million opening over the weekend, Lionsgate clearly thought they could build off of the success of Twilight, spend $1 million on a terrible script, and turn Lautner into the next Tom Cruise. What they failed to consider, however, is that Taylor Lautner is a terrible, terrible actor, and even teenage girls draw the line somewhere.

But it’s not the first time that Hollywood attempted to make someone a star against the wishes of audiences. And it won’t be the last. Here are eight other recent actors that Hollywood has attempted, and failed, to make stars.


Alex Pettyfer: I literally have no idea where this guy came from, though I’m certainly not broken up by the fact that, so far, he’s failed as a lead actor. He was a model who was handpicked for the title role in Alex Rider: Operation Stormbreaker. And despite the fact that it was based upon a popular graphic novel series (with nine installments) and a supporting cast that included Ewan McGregor, the film was poorly reviewed and made less than $1 million. Still, someone must have thought they saw something in Pettyfer because two years later, Hollywood attempted to build a franchise around him, I Am Number Four, which was also based on a graphic novel. That, too, bombed, making only $55 million (certainly not franchise money). A couple of months later, Pettyfer appeared again in Beastly (based on a supernatural romance novel) and, though it was predicted to be one of the 50 biggest films of 2010, it only mustered a meager $27 million. And thus ended Pettyfer’s quest to be the “next big action star.” However, he does have a supporting role in October’s In Time and Soderbergh did put him in his male stripper movie. If anyone can turn him into a star, it’s Soderbergh. Right? Look what he did for porn star Sasha Grey. After the Girlfriend Experience, Grey went on to the great heights of … “Entourage” and an Eminem video.

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Josh Hartnett: When Channing Tatum arrived on the scene, I wondered why there was a need to replace Joshn Hartnett on the Hollywood food chain, until I realized that Josh Hartnett, despite several efforts, never became the huge star that Pearl Harbor portended he’d become. He’s like Charming Potato, without any of the goddamn charm. After Pearl Harbor (and the ensemble, Black Hawk Down), Hartnett was never able to carry a film: 40 Days and 40 Nights ($37 million), Hollywood Homicide ($30 million), Wicker Park ($13 million), Lucky Number Slevin ($22 million) and, the nail in the coffin, The Black Dahlia ($22 million). His last movie, Bunruku was unreleased and the one before that, August, made only $12,000. Worse still, I think he sucked out all of Harrison Ford’s mojo in Hollywood Homicide.

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Danny McBride: After The Foot Fist Way, which only critics and Hollywood execs saw, McBride came out of nowhere and stole a few scenes in Pineapple Express and Tropic Thunder. Hollywood was sure it had a huge comedic talent on their hands, but it didn’t quite turn out that way. Even though they essentially paired him with his All the Real Girls director, David Gordon-Green, McBride never amounted to anything more than a one-trick Kenny Powers: Land of the Lost was a massive failure; Your Highness only made $21 million, even with Natalie Portman and James Franco in it, and his latest, the lead villain in 30 MInutes of Less only mustered $37 million. He’s still got “Eastbound and Down,” but I doubt that McBride will ever make it to the end of the red carpet that Hollywood laid out for him. Turns out, we have Seth Rogen, we have Jonah Hill, and we have Will Ferrell. We didn’t need a blend of all three.

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Michael Cera: Remember when we loved Michael Cera in “Arrested Development” so much that we followed him to Superbad? And then remember how, after the success of Superbad, Cera was cast in everything? And then remember how nobody watched any of those films? Nick and Norah’s Infinite Playlist ($31 million), Year One ($43 million), Youth in Revolt ($15 million), and Scott Pilgrim vs. the World ($31 million). It’s not that these films just failed, they failed because of Cera. I still believe the reason that Scott Pilgrim wasn’t a massive hit was because nobody wanted to see a Michael Cera movie. Hollywood tried to will it, but audiences refused buy. What’s Cera got going on now? A couple of low-budget flicks due out in 2012 and 2013. I’m guessing audiences will ignore them, too. A swing and a miss, a career with all the potential of a Red Sox/Braves World Series in 2011.

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Dane Cook: In 2006, Dane Cook was riding a wave of massive popularity, apparently built around a stand-up routine that involved mispronouncing the word sandwich. The guy could sell out huge venues, and douchebags would line up around the block to see him go on and on and on about his experience standing in the line at Rite-Aid. Hollywood naturally thought they had something, believing they could translate his stand-up success to the screen. They could not: Employee of the Month ($28 million), Good Luck Chuck, ($35 million) and My Best Friend’s Girl ($19 million) were all dead on arrival, and even though his dramatic turn in Mr. Brooks ($28 million) was well received, few bothered to see it in theaters. He has a couple of low-budget indies in the works, but Hollywood studios have given up on him. The latest news has him eyeing a sitcom on network television.

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Topher Grace: I don’t quite know what went wrong with Topher Grace after he left “That 70’s Show.” He’s likable and winsome, but he doesn’t really have that feature film presence, even though his cameo in Ocean’s 12 suggested that he might become one of those stars someday. It didn’t happen. Win a Date with Tad Hamilton! ($17 million) bombed, In Good Company ($45) performed only modestly, and he was a huge part of the problem in Spider-Man 3. Between 2004 and 2010, he was only in 2 movies released widely; in 2010, he played second-fiddle in a disappointing Predator remake (commercially speaking) before a movie he’d made in 2007, Take Me Home Tonight, was finally released in 2011. It made $6 million. I think Hollywood finally saw the writing on the wall, scrawled in the blood of the botched virgin sacrifice it attempted to make Grace a star.

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Dan Fogler: Fogler was a award-winning Broadway star that Hollywood thought it could turn into the next funny fat guy. I have no idea why Hollywood decided to believe in this guy. He didn’t even have a base, a small scene-stealing role familiar to the masses. In 2006 - 2007, Hollywood just started throwing him in movies, slapping him against the wall to see if he’d stick: School for Scoundrels ($17 million), Balls of Fury ($32 million), and Good Luck Chuck ($35 million). Two other Fogler movies, Fanboys ($688,000) and Take Me Home Tonight ($6 million) were also made during that period and not released until a few years later, and by that time, Hollywood had already given up trying to make Fogler happen.

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Clive Owen: I understand that this is an odd choice, and that many of you are thinking, “But Clive Owen already is a star.” But is he really? How many successful movies has he made? In my opinion, Clive Owen is a guy that Hollywood has been trying to make happen since The Bourne Identity. In fact, they’re still trying. But mainstream audiences aren’t biting. Sure, he was in Sin City and Inside Man, but was he the draw for either one of those films? “Clive Owen” films don’t do well. Look at the evidence: Closer (even with the ensemble, it only made $33 million), Derailed ($36 million), Children of Men ($35 million), Shoot ‘Em Up ($12 million), The International ($25 million), Duplicity ($40 million), The Boys are Back ($800,000), Trust ($112,000) and the Statham film, Killer Elite ($10 million, so far). Owen has been asked to carry a movie several times, and he’s failed each and every time. Audiences loves to see him in suits, they just don’t want to see him in movies. And Hollywood hasn’t quite caught on yet.

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Comments

Dead-on with Fogler. Balls of Fury is without a doubt one of the shittiest movies I've ever seen. It's not even "so bad it's good". It's just crap.

Posted by: Parker Jammstein at September 29, 2011 4:06 PM

I'm sad about Topher Grace.

Posted by: wildflower at September 29, 2011 4:09 PM

*clutches at her copy of Inside Man*

but WHY do people do not want to see Clive Owen in movies? IT MAKES NO SENSE TO ME.

Posted by: Holly at September 29, 2011 4:14 PM

While you do have a point about Clive Owen, I don't think he should be on this list simply because of his talent. Everyone else on this list shouldn't have been given a chance to begin with. Clive Owen though, that man can ACT. And the mere sight of him (sans pedo-stache) butters my muffin. So there.

Posted by: Rest In Peace at September 29, 2011 4:14 PM

Ditto on the muffin butterin'.

Posted by: Phat girl at September 29, 2011 4:18 PM

Hey now, I enjoyed both Youth in Revolt and Scott Pilgrim. Everyone else got bored of him.

As for Clive Owen, that there is just a damn shame. He's so cool yet has such AWFUL luck.

Posted by: aptrapani at September 29, 2011 4:21 PM

I don't even understand why people think Alex Pettyfer is hot. He just looks like a douche.

I actually kind of liked 40 Days and 40 Nights. Which is weird, because I find Josh Hartnett intensely boring and A Knight's Tale permanently turned me off of Shannon Sossawhatever. d I went in as an atheist hating the premise.
I was quite surprised to find myself actually enjoying the movie. It want fantastic, but it was sweet, and I didn't hate either of them in it.

Danny McBride was in Tropic Thunder? I don't remember that at all. I had thought I had never seen him in anything, but I guess I have seen him in something and just have no memory of it.

I like the completely leaving out of Juno from Michael Cera's credits.

I don't remember what the hell I was watching, but on something I was watching the other day a character said something about playing poker with Topher, or wanting to play poker with Topher. Which made me smile because I love Topher and I thought it was a clever reference, but made me sad because we weren't actually seeing Topher.

Posted by: DominaNefret at September 29, 2011 4:29 PM

Topher Grace IS winsome. I'm still hoping that he just needs some age on him to get going.

Posted by: Mrs. Julien at September 29, 2011 4:31 PM

Could someone explain the origin of "making fetch happen"?

Posted by: Mrs. Julien at September 29, 2011 4:33 PM

@Mrs Julien: Mean Girls. (They're mean. They're girls.)

Posted by: MM at September 29, 2011 4:48 PM

@Mrs. Julien, the phrase "fetch" comes from the movie Mean Girls. One of the characters is constantly using the term fetch to describe things she likes. She's obviously trying to turn it into her own personal catch phrase. One of her friends gets sick of her using the word and tells her to "Stop trying to make fetch happen. It's not going to happen." It's a great line. And people have been using it to describe something that isn't going to catch on ever since.

Posted by: Gia at September 29, 2011 4:49 PM

Gerard Butler anyone? They've been trying to cram that big hunk-o-nothin' down our craw ever since "300". They have tried him in every type of movie; rom-com, action, drama. To misquote Dorothy Parker, "There is no there there."

Posted by: Endgame at September 29, 2011 4:52 PM

With Michael Cera is it because people hate him or is it because people just got tired of seeing him in so many movies in such a short period of time?

Movies that on the outside seemed very similar.

Posted by: John W at September 29, 2011 4:52 PM

See now, I love Michael Cera. I know, I know...is it contrarian to like him, or contrarian to hate him? Who cares? I have enjoyed ALL of his movies and will continue looking forward to more of his nervous, meek awesomeness in the next few years.

Posted by: superasente at September 29, 2011 4:55 PM

I don't see how Children of Men could be considered a failure. It is a brilliant movie and did not have a very wide release.

But otherwise, yeah.

Posted by: Haystacks at September 29, 2011 4:55 PM

Mrs Julien, it's from Mean Girls. I am still hoping that Topher Grace happens. Maybe he can do TV again?

Posted by: Pat at September 29, 2011 5:00 PM

Clive Owen can't carry a film? What about Children of Men and Shoot'em up? They might have been failures financially. But they sure as hell didn't suck. Clive Owen is not the problem.

Posted by: FabMax at September 29, 2011 5:02 PM

At first I thought that Josh Hartnett was just "understated." It took awhile for me to realize that he was, in fact, just plain boring. He did not, however, suck out all of Harrison Ford's mojo. Ford had lost it long before "Hollywood Shuffle" hit theaters. And GOD was that move AWFUL.

Posted by: jimbob at September 29, 2011 5:04 PM

And as boring as Hartnett is, he's not any more boring than Charming Potato, who is sure to be added to this list within a year or two. I mean, honestly, Hollywood is trying SO HARD with that guy, and he has no screen charisma at all.

Posted by: jimbob at September 29, 2011 5:07 PM

Cera looks like one of those freaky Asian sexbots.

And I should know, having spent the better part of the early afternoon online looking up freaky Asian sexbots.

Posted by: Skitz at September 29, 2011 5:07 PM

I have been baffled by Clive Owen ever since that weird blind cop TV show. I didn't think he was good in that, and then he was just everywhere.

Posted by: Three-nineteen at September 29, 2011 5:07 PM

Obrigado!

Clive Owen is a very good actor, he is not a movie star leading man. Herein lies the crucial distinction.

I've said it before, but I'll go on the safe assumption that I'm the only one who remembers it (or cares), I would love to see Michael Cera bring his schtick to a gangster: Whispery tentative voice expressing disappointment and confusion then BAM! he shoots someone in the face.

Posted by: Mrs. Julien at September 29, 2011 5:08 PM

I, too, like Topher Grace and think he has charm and a goofy charisma. I don't think he's talentless though. I would like him to succeed. I'm hoping he'll come into his own one of these days.

And Endgame, I am totally with you on Gerard Butler. That guy grosses me out to the max. His picture is in the dictionary next to the definition of smarmy.

Posted by: prairiegirl at September 29, 2011 5:14 PM

Michael Cera is perfectly cast in Children's hospital.

Louis CK rules not just because he has one of the best shows on TV, Louie, not just because he is one of the best stand up comedians on the planet, but also because he killed Dane Cook's career.

Clive Owen/Children of Men. He gets a pass in my book.

Posted by: seth at September 29, 2011 5:21 PM

Jesse Eisenberg happened to Michael Cera. That was the first thing I though when I saw him in Zombieland.
Same timid little voice.
Cute but not handsome really.
Michael Cera could have done Zombieland, Adventureland maybe just maybe even The Social Network.
Is Jesse Eisenberg going to be on this list one day too?

Posted by: daria at September 29, 2011 5:25 PM

I was watching O a few days ago and thought the same thing about Josh. I thought the same thing about Alex after I Am Number Four. Micheal Cera and Dane Cook need no explaination. The only one I tolerate on this list is Danny Mcbride and that's because he's so so good at the one liners. One-liners don't make a movie though. I don't want to sound like a kiss up but I've also been thinking the same about Clive. When you're homebound, you watch a lot of t.v., you read and you think. I remember thinking how much potential he had after Bourne and how he never did gel.

Posted by: Candy at September 29, 2011 5:30 PM

On a fairly recent episode of the Doug Loves Movies podcast, somebody referred to Llamautner as a "Barewolf", and I nearly sprayed my Wild Turkey onto my laptop.

Now to read the article.

Posted by: Groundloop at September 29, 2011 5:39 PM

P.s., is this a men only list? Why is Anne Hathaway not on this list? What has she done that is so spectacular? I didn't even like The Princess Diaries. Someone help me out because I don't understand her stardom.

Posted by: Candy at September 29, 2011 5:39 PM

And there's Michael Cera's clone, that Eisenberg kid. I seriously had an argument with a coworker once because I thought he was kidding about there being two of these guys in existence. It's a creepy fact, no?

And that's their problem -- there can only be one, as Connery opined. Although it'd be okay with me if they both lost their heads.

Posted by: Obst N. Gemuse at September 29, 2011 5:40 PM

I think judging their impact solely on how much money their movies made is a bit one-sided. Some of these have definitely been kicked to the curb but not all.

Posted by: amanda at September 29, 2011 5:44 PM

I don't care if he "happens" or not, Clive Owen will always have a place in my heart for "The Hire."

Posted by: Todd at September 29, 2011 5:48 PM

@ Obst N. Gemuse

Please read the comment I posted just above yours about Jesse Eisenberg.
Great minds...

Posted by: daria at September 29, 2011 5:51 PM

@ daria

Uh oh -- we're just like Cera and Eisenberg!

Posted by: Obst N. Gemuse at September 29, 2011 6:01 PM

I don't think Cera can be blamed for Year One.....being a bloody misconceived mess was the real problem there.

Posted by: Emmet at September 29, 2011 6:07 PM

You forgot Sam Worthless, er, Worthington.

Posted by: logan at September 29, 2011 6:28 PM

I still love you CERA!

Posted by: junierizzle at September 29, 2011 6:43 PM

I have alwys enjoyed Topher Grace and I wouldn't mind seeing him on TV again.

I notice Mr. Worthington was left off of this list. Perhaps the jury is still out? Or perhaps you forgot about him. Wouldn't be unusual.

But you're gonna have to take back what you said about Clive Owen.

Posted by: greer at September 29, 2011 6:45 PM

The problem with most of the people in this list is that they can't act. I don't think Topher Grace was really forced on the public, though. I don't like Pettyfer or Cera but they are young and can still prove themselves.

The Michael Cera and Jesse Eisenebrg comparisons are so boring now. Jesse will always be OK. He prefers indies and theatre work. We live in a country where meatheads like Arnold Schwarzenegger and Sylverster Stallone can become major stars. Let the geeks have their day!

Posted by: Abs at September 29, 2011 6:49 PM

The problem with Clive Owen isn't Clive Owen. It's the people who go and see movies.

He's good at picking intelligent roles when people want to see lunacy. Closer and Children of Men.

Children of Men was nominated for 3 Academy Awards. Closer was nominated for 2 Academy Awards...including a nod at him for Best Supporting Actor.

It's not his fault the average moviegoer is a box of rocks. That's obvious with the fact that those two movies mentioned did poorly in the box office and The Smurfs has a gross of about $137,593,881

Posted by: DeistBrawler at September 29, 2011 6:56 PM

where is Gerald Butler? i never understand his appeal and his acting

and i 'm going to be a bitch but if Clive Owen is in this list,Ryan Gosling(one of my fav) and Colin Farrell(a good actor) must be in it(they can't buy a movie)

Posted by: carrie at September 29, 2011 6:58 PM

Now, see, in that picture, Clive Owen looks a lot like a slightly up-market David Garrison.

When I saw that teaser photo, I mistook Josh Hartnett for Ryan Kwanten. Same diff at this point, though. The studios are about to start trying to make Kwanten happen too, and really, what is Kwanten but an Australian Channing Tatum?

Posted by: Jerry at September 29, 2011 7:13 PM

For a film that tried so hard to translate the settings and characters and style of the comicbook Cera was a stunningly bad casting decision for Scott Pilgrim.

He is not why the movie did badly - but he's certainly a big part of the reason people like me who really should have liked that film, having really enjoyed the books and being huge fans of watching Edgar Wright direct stuff just didn't.

Posted by: PyD at September 29, 2011 7:19 PM

Man, I really like Topher Grace, but Spiderman 3 was so f***ing awful I had to turn away for a few years. I still hope he has a chance, though. To live in a world where that assh*** Kutcher is on EVERY F***ING WEEK is just painful.

And I, um, kind of liked Take Me Home Tonight (winces).

Posted by: Jill at September 29, 2011 7:23 PM

Part of the problem for these guys is their choices in projects. Clive Owen, as leading man as he may be, can't seem to pick a project to save his life. Killer Elite? The International?

Or may be he doesn't want to be a movie star and picks projects he knows will suck.

Posted by: Fredo at September 29, 2011 7:35 PM

Dear Hollywood,

STOP trying to make Sam Worthington happen. He sucked in Australia and he sucks even worse in Hollywood - made even more glaringly obvious by his inability to hold an accent.

Signed,
The world.

Posted by: Shane at September 29, 2011 7:43 PM

I have nothing to add to the topic at hand but I love that you say people stand IN line rather than on line. People who think they stand on line are stupid and wrong.

Posted by: ang at September 29, 2011 7:53 PM

A couple of these guys, I have no idea who they are. Others seem most effective when cast in movies that are more of a team effort.

Posted by: blue at September 29, 2011 7:54 PM

Evidence that Clive Owen has questionable judgement: Trust.
It was terrible.

Posted by: Hattie at September 29, 2011 7:56 PM

Maybe if we get Clive Owen on some really good TV show, all will not be lost.

But whatever, I still dig him.

Posted by: Sara H at September 29, 2011 8:16 PM

Michael Cera will always be in my good books for Arrested Development, I don't care how many box office bombs he delivers.

Posted by: CC at September 29, 2011 9:08 PM

I've never seen Dane Cook's stand-up, but I will say I thought he was good in Employee of the Month (I work in a grocery store, so I have love for that movie) and he was very good in Mr. Brooks, which was a fucked up movie.

Posted by: TWoPFan at September 29, 2011 9:10 PM

Honest question: why did Abduction's opening inspire a million stories about Lautner not being able to open a movie, when Statham/DeNiro/Owen bombed worse with twice the budget?

It sounds like Abduction was a terrible movie on all fronts, but Lautner still pulled in a 59% female audience in a shitty generic action movie. That suggests to me that the problem with that movie's marketability was not him (however bad his acting was). He brought in exactly the audience he was expected to.

Posted by: Artemis at September 29, 2011 9:39 PM

I think logan (and likeminded Pajibans) wins the thread. Sam Worthington has got to be the most bland, uninteresting creature to ever be shat out of the Hollywood machine. Potato is positively radiant in comparison.

Also, they've mostly disappeared thank goodness, but there were a couple of years in the 90s when Claire Forlani and Alicia Silverstone were in every movie made. God, those chicks pissed me off.

Posted by: Skyler Durden at September 29, 2011 9:46 PM

Hm...I'm not really sure about this list. Some of these movies...actually a good handful of these movies were actually really good, but just didn't do well money wise. That didn't make them bad movies. I've only seen three or so Michael Cera movies and enjoyed them all.

I freakin' love the crap out of Shoot 'Em Up. Plus, Paul Giamatti!


I used to like Dane Cook on some level, but I got really tired of lines like, "...and she let me stick my big, fat, cock in her." It was supposed to be funny, I guess, but I just didn't think it was.

Posted by: Candee at September 29, 2011 11:11 PM

I like almost everyone on this list. Especially Clive Owen, ever since I saw The Croupier in a practically empty theater (yeah, that's pretentious, but that doesn't make it not true). I should probably hand in my badge and gun.

Posted by: RobP at September 30, 2011 12:24 AM

Two words: Matthew McConaughey

Posted by: James S at September 30, 2011 1:21 AM

*obligatory excuses about doing this on my phone at six am so forgive the spelling*

It alway surprised me that Josh Hartnett never took off. He was the best thing by a mile in Faculty yet somehow the biggest starts out of that film are Jon Stewart and Elijah Fucking Wood...even Fanke Jansen bitched and diva'd her way into bit parts. Hartnett was in that clever little crime folm woth Bruce Willis, which could/should have pit him back on yhe map...alasI'm glad Clive Owen never took of though. The man looks like a fucking potato fucked an organically grown carrot and that baby and a human had a baby and it inherited about as much acting ability as a potato carrot can possess. I just fuckig hate the guy(in as much as I can hate a by all accounts nice guy I've never met) or rather I should say I'm sick o seeing him and hearing about how he's SUCH a great actor...he sucks

Posted by: Nadine at September 30, 2011 1:24 AM

Oh god I'm here again. In going to be that crazy person screaming in the street: Clive Owen is the problem!! Close your eyes to the (apparently mind altering few are immune to) pretty and listen to him mumble for ten minutes. that's not acting people.

I think I need an intervention.

Posted by: Carrie at September 30, 2011 2:55 AM

Awww, I actually love Topher Grace and wish that had he would make it bigger. I feel like he has the right amount of charm, but just isn't making the right movies.

Also, minor nitpick, but I Am Number Four is based off a regular novel, not a graphic novel, by Pittacus Lore aka James Frey aka Mr. Lied to Oprah and Got Shamed by Housewives Across the Country.

Posted by: Even Stevens at September 30, 2011 3:11 AM

The problem with most of the guys on this list and a lot of actors in general is that they should stick to tv. Some actors are made for television and have no business in movies. I'm looking at you Jennifer Aniston. Topher Grace could be great again if he found another good show. Then again some of these guys just suck and have no business anywhere, like Dane Cook.

Posted by: apsutter at September 30, 2011 4:41 AM

I hate micheal cerra (+ the rest of his 'awkward squad' buddies) and all glory to those who denigrate him, but I think the 'ha look at these loosers who aren't even top tier movie stars!' tone of this article a little illjudged.
And besides, hasn't the era of the bonafide 'movie star' (i.e. an actor/actress who guarantees ticket sales by just being in a film) been over (with a few exceptions) for a while. Most big blockbusters nowadays seem to have special effects as the star and just want bland actors who can do what their told for (relatively) cheep which explains Sam Worthington's career.

Posted by: zechs marquise at September 30, 2011 6:50 AM

sorry for double post but this one's constructive

+Mrs. Julien+ you should look into "ill sleep when I'm dead" a gangster movie by the man who wrote/directed "get carter" (both films I don't care for, but if you want to see Clive Owen in a whispery-gruff voice + killing people type setting then that's your ticket. (you should also look into 'croupier' also by the same people, not gangsters just seedy that one is)
spoilery trailer http://www.traileraddict.com/trailer/ill-sleep-when-im-dead/trail

Posted by: zechs marquise at September 30, 2011 7:01 AM

I am never, ever showing this list to my housemate. She worships Josh Hartnett. In fact, she wishes that Lucas and Spielberg had rebooted Indiana Jones and cast Hartnett in the lead role. We rewatched The Faculty over the weekend and, well, it was quite the viewing experience.

I, like many others, think Topher Grace is adorable. He was so charming on That 70's Show he made Laura Prepon seem like a better actress than she is. And I don't care about what the financials say, anyone who was in Children of Men is a success in my book.

Posted by: Lipton at September 30, 2011 9:04 AM

I started reading this, but had to stop as soon as II read that you think I Am Number Four and Stormbreaker where based on graphic novels. I don't care about your dubious opininions,but at least do some research and get your damn facts right.

Posted by: chris at September 30, 2011 9:17 AM

As soon as Josh Hartnett tried to move from teenage/20-something roles into more adult films, his career just went kaput. I think it was probably due to his stupid haircut. No one could take him seriously with that weird bowl cut thing he had going on.

I wish Danny McBride wouldn't wink like that. It's creeping me out.

Posted by: MelBivDevoe at September 30, 2011 9:24 AM

Thank you zechs marquise,but it is Michael Cera that I think would be great shooting people in the face should someone cast him against type.

Posted by: Mrs. Julien at September 30, 2011 9:48 AM

@Mrs. Julian -- be careful with Zechs Marquise's suggestion of "I'll Sleep When I'm Dead". I rented it once, thrilled by the idea of a whispery gangster Owen. It turned out to be surprisingly ass-rapey, and The Boyfriend was not pleased.

Posted by: Siege at September 30, 2011 9:57 AM

I have nothing to add to the topic at hand but I love that you say people stand IN line rather than on line. People who think they stand on line are stupid and wrong.

Posted by: ang at September 29, 2011 7:53 PM

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I agree, and I also think "sleep in" is stupid and wrong. Sleep in what? Your bed? Your room? Your house? It's sleep late. SLEEP LATE!!

Posted by: kirbyjay at September 30, 2011 10:29 AM

Clive Owen was in too many brilliant movies to be on this list. The Children of Men? Brilliant. Closer? Brilliant, if hard to watch. Inside Man? Bloody entertaining.

I have a soft spot for Josh Hartnett. Although I have no idea why.

Posted by: Zirze at September 30, 2011 11:28 AM

I'm pretty ambivalent about most these actors, which would explain why I would not be drawn to their movies. The only one I like is CLive Owen, and the one I despise is Michael Cera. I also get the impression that Dane Cook is a megadouche, but I have never seen his stand up nor a film of his.

I think to understand these actors misfortunes we must look a the rise of their counterparts. I'm talking about guys like Johnny Depp, Will Smith and Leonardo Dicaprio. A, they can all act, but beyond that they have charisma and screen presence.

I guess it's like having a giant penis. Some lucky men are born with it, others aren't.

Posted by: Muteki at September 30, 2011 12:11 PM

We get it - it's oh-so-popular to despise Michael Cera. We've all heard it eleventy-thousand times. It's to the point that I'm more sick of people jumping on the hate bandwagon than I am at his annoyingly identical roles. Superbad and Juno were pretty solid, but now Cera's more typecast than a keyboard on a fishing pole.

Ms. Julien is absolutely right - if someone would give the poor guy a chance to play something different, we might get more than a one-note performance. I mean, Jonah Hill finally gets a role where he's not the obnoxious fat guy and now he's getting rave reviews.

Posted by: Bert at September 30, 2011 1:49 PM

Damn straight Eisenberg is what happened to Michael Cera. Not only did Cera have a bunch on movies coming out (all with his trademark awkward character) but Jessie Eisenberg came out with a few movies at the same time doing the exact same thing. It took me quite a while to convince my friend that Cera was not in Adventureland or Zombieland. That confusion took him from borderline over-saturation to THE DAM HAS COLLAPSED!! OH THE HUMANITY!!!!1

Eisenberg has been spared this because, at the time, the only people who knew who Eisenberg was were the few who could actually tell him and Cera apart.

Posted by: Socrates_Johnson at September 30, 2011 3:12 PM

I agree with the others on here...I don't think Clive Owen is the problem. He is a remarkably talented actor who makes some very interesting choices in film that I don't think translate to the typical theatregoer. Children of Men is a near masterpiece but it's not the sort of film that would grab a large demographic I imagine.

Now don't get me started in Topher Grace. Sometimes I feel like I have single handedly tried to make him happen for years. He has a great deal of charisma and if he could just book a solid film I think his talent would really shine. I thought he was pretty good in In Good Company but that film was really tarnished by Scarlett Johansson. She was so damn unlikeable.

Posted by: citizen_cris at September 30, 2011 4:59 PM

i agree with all of these except Mcbride

Posted by: aaron at September 30, 2011 6:03 PM

I agree with all of them except Cera. Some of those films were indie and weren't expected to make millions, but I agree, he was EVERYWHERE! It was overkill.

Posted by: monica at September 30, 2011 11:05 PM

Clive Owen? Please. If his films have not made a much obey as they ought, that is no failure of his, but of the movie-going public's.

Topher Grace was delightful in In Good Company, He needs better scripts, and he needs aging.

As for the rest -- yes. Especially Cera. GOD, that creature is noxious. I cannot bear the sight of him.

Posted by: Maryscott O'Connor at October 1, 2011 12:36 AM

Scott Pilgrim v. The World was the best movie of 2010.

And good jab at the Red Sux and the Braves. They suck! Fact!!

Posted by: =DocDoom1= at October 1, 2011 3:01 AM

You're out of your mind with Clive Owen- the rest I will concede to (poor Topher)

Even though he is supremely bland and has terrible facial hair I have a real soft spot for Hartnett because he has Crohns disease. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy let alone a person who has to try and get insured by every employer.

Posted by: SAS at October 1, 2011 5:59 AM

I have never under stood Josh Hartnett or that Alex guy - they are supposed to be the hot guy in the movie, the 2nd coming of Brad Pitt. But they are both boring, douchey looking, and in no way hot.

Posted by: danielle at October 1, 2011 11:16 AM

How did Jude Law NOT get on this list? Did everybody forget five or six years ago, when he was in like seven movies and they all bombed? Did we forget Sky Captain or Alfie? He was even "Sexiest Man Alive" that year!

Posted by: Samantha at October 1, 2011 4:07 PM

How did Jude Law NOT get on this list? Did everybody forget five or six years ago, when he was in like seven movies and they all bombed? Did we forget Sky Captain or Alfie? He was even "Sexiest Man Alive" that year!

Posted by: Samantha at October 1, 2011 4:09 PM

I would love to see Topher Grace on Mad Men or some other 60's era show.

I stopped watching Cera movies because I got tired of his schtick. It's all he ever does and it's the same reason I don't like Jessie Eisenberg and always wait until the last possible opportunity to watch his movies (Although I do think Jessie is a better actor)

Posted by: king at October 2, 2011 12:47 AM

Yeah, Josh Hartnett's no Keanu Reeves, even though their oddly non-emoting mannequin-style of acting is quite similar. But I'd still shag Josh rotten. He was gorgious in Pearl Harbor. Even gorgiouser in The Virgin Suicides. I know, I'm a dog. But I just download his movies now, since ogling him in theatres is a big waste of money. And any Scarlett Johanssen fan would agree that no one downloads her movies to watch her act, either.

Posted by: Brian Kehinde at October 2, 2011 3:55 AM

Remember that post someone made about a typo, where if something was "cerated" you were cutting exactly the same way over and over? Exactly. And I do blame him for Scott Pilgrim.

I thought Topher was the only good part about Spiderman 3. He's our Michael J. Fox.

Posted by: lawnjart at October 2, 2011 4:26 PM

Why isn't George Clooney on this list?

Seriously.

Posted by: Pooch at October 2, 2011 10:05 PM

Children of Men was CLive's only good movie. Not sure about Closer.

I've only seen Dan Folger in that pingpong movie and I thought his character would be replaced after a few minutes, didn't know he was the lead character.

Topher Grace, yeah, dunno maybe b/c we already got Tobey Maguire. Sad he became a Videogum meme. Maybe it's the name.

Most British comedians are "fetchables".

Posted by: Adrien at October 2, 2011 10:36 PM

I don't get why all these people are defending Topher Grace. That dude makes my skin crawl in EVERYTHING HE'S IN. I'd take him over Dane Cook anyday, but that's like choosing crabs over herpes.

Posted by: Danielle at October 3, 2011 1:06 AM

I'm with the Topher Grace love. I miss watching him on tv - I still watch That 70s Show eps to get my fix, even though I've seen them all. And he was great in Traffic. He is actually one of the five men on my free pass.

Posted by: Lulu at October 6, 2011 8:56 AM