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The 10 Most Cheesilicious Sword And Sorcery Films

By TK | Posted Under Seriously Random Lists | Comments (107)



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A couple of weekends ago, after a vigorous night of drinking and carrying on, I found myself idly scanning the cable channels, looking for something to help me fall asleep before the spinning walls caught up with me. I flipped past the abominable 1987 adaptation, Masters Of The Universe, and then flipped back to it, because I’d completely forgotten about it. The movie had been on for 20 minutes. I watched the entire remainder of it, fascinated and strangely enjoying myself.

There’s a great deal of fun to be had with the sword and sorcery genre, particularly for those of us who grew up with comic books, Dungeons & Dragons (both the RPG and the Saturday morning cartoon), the artwork of Frank Frazetta, and books by the likes of David Eddings, R.A. Salvatore, and the Weis/Hickman combo responsible for the Dragonlance novels (Raistlin forever, motherfuckers). Particularly in the 80’s, there were a host of films that dotted that landscape to try to capitalize on our unrepentant nerdiness, and while they were rarely, if ever, good films, they were (and are) all we had. There aren’t many modern equivalents — The Prince of Persia has an outside shot, but the remake of Clash Of The Titans just plain sucked.

I’m not talking about the irredeemably bad films. You won’t find the likes of In The Name Of The King: A Dungeon Siege Tale on here, because a) it’s completely and utterly devoid of value, and b) I’ll stab myself in the heart with an icepick before I list an Uwe Boll flick on a list of things I like. You won’t find any SyFy fare, or any sequels (and no Conan The Barbarian, because that’s in a class of awesome all of its own). Instead, I’m talking about those gloriously cheesy, silly, campy, often stupid but still fun as hell fantasy films that cater to the 10 year old inside of me.

They are cheesiliciously enjoyable, despite frequently being technically terrible and often critical and/or commercial flops. Yet there’s something about them that, when I find them on USA on a Saturday afternoon, I find myself cracking a beer and settling in for a bit of goofy, magical fun. Is it the impractical weaponry? The abysmal acting? The painful special effects? The scantily clad women? The frequently and inexplicably shirtless men? All of the above and more, I say.

So break out your Monster’s Manual, throw on your Dungeon Master’s hat and grab a drink. Here are the Ten Most Cheesilicious Sword And Sorcery Films Of The 80’s:


willow-warwick-davies.jpgWillow (1988): Yes, it borrows heavily from Lord Of The Rings. Yes, the story is goofy, the effects are decidedly un-dazzling, and the dialogue, at times, makes you cringe. That said, it’s also one of the rare examples of good decision-making by George Lucas, meaning he had an idea, but let others do the heavy lifting in terms of screenplay and directing. Regardless of what you think… Warwick Davis! Val Kilmer in one of his top five roles, ever. The now-forgotten Joanne Whaley! Billy goddamn Barty! Directed by Opie Cunningham! I fucking love Willow.

Labyrinth-Connely-Bowie_lddd.jpgLabyrinth (1986): Oof. This one is loved by many, inexplicably so. It’s so brutally 80’s cheesetastic, it’ll raise your cholesterol. David Bowie’s hair is the stuff of legend, a mythical monstrosity that Nic Cage has spent his entire life aspiring to. Jennifer Connolly, in her young and innocent days. The plot is bizarre (goblins and mazes and limbs all over the place and seriously, don’t ever drop acid and watch it. I mean it), but damn if it isn’t still an oddly beautiful movie. Plus, Jim Henson directed, and that wins unlimited nostalgia points. Also, did you know this existed?

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NeverendingStory-thumb-400x300-14007.jpgThe Neverending Story (1984): This is one of those films that many of us have fond memories of, and then we catch it on cable or dust off the DVD and then realize how insanely silly it is. Then, we forget that we re-watched it, and months or years pass, and the fond memories return. As they should, because it’s an adorable movie. With some really awful child acting… really awful. But it’s sweet, and the creatures are fascinating and fun and it’s actually rather scary if you’re a little one, with some surprisingly mature themes. Also, every year that I don’t get a luckdragon for Christmas is another year where I plan to someday wage war on the universe for being an asshole. Seriously. I want a luckdragon more than I want a jetpack.

ds3.jpgDragonslayer (1981): Possibly the best dragon movie ever made, not that that’s saying a fucking lot. When your competition is Reign Of Fire and Dragonheart, if you’re not at the top, you’re trapped at the bottom of a bucket of shit. But Dragonslayer had some badass effects in its day, that can still be pretty damn effective. Plus, the dragon’s name was Vermithrax Pejorative, and I don’t know why none of you ever picked that as a commenter handle. You goddamn slackers, I swear you’re worthless. Then again, it would probably trip our spam filters, since it sounds like an impotence pill. Dragonslayer has it all — visions, magic, exploding wizards, virgin sacrifice lotteries, swordplay, and of course, a big fucking dragon. Fun fact: Dragonslayer is directed by Matthew Robbins, who also directed *batteries not included and The Legend Of Billie Jean. Weird.

hawk8.jpgHawk The Slayer 1980): Easily one of the weirder entries, Hawk The Slayer hits almost every sword and sorcery cliche there is. Magic swords (complete with mystical a mystical gem called, I shit you not, the “mindstone”), giants, elves, dwarves, a murderous wizard ridiculously named “Voltan,” played by Jack fucking Palance. It’s awful. It’s glorious. You thought Palance overacted in Batman? YOU KNOW NOTHING! Hawk The Slayer should be required viewing. They should ask about it at job interviews.

Krull-hero.gifKrull (1983): Seriously, have any of you not seen Krull? How do you sleep at night if you haven’t? You disgust me. Because Krull is another whackadoo Fellowship ripoff, about a quest to destroy a great evil but first! You must gather together a group of unlikely freaks to do battle with you. In this case, a shapeshifting magician, a cyclops whose eye looks like it’s made of pudding, and Liam Neeson and Robbie Coltrane. It also has a teleporting fortress, a fancy-assed glaive called… um… The Glaive, forced marriages to creepy bad guy-things, and… aliens with laser guns. Krull is so mind-scrapingly bizarre, it has to be seen. You’ll love it. Or I’ll hate you. More.

GHMEF00Z.jpgHercules (1983): Hercules, played by Lou Ferrigno. Sybil Danning as Ariadne. The Olympian gods live on the Moon. Despite it taking place in ancient times (at least, the parts that don’t take place on the fucking Moon), Hercules battles giant robots and there’s more pew! pew! than you could possibly believe. Ferrigno is terrible in this — he can’t act, fuck, he can barely speak, and his fight scenes are so painfully clumsy, they have to be seen to be believed. It’s a blast. It also inspired one of the greatest SNL skits ever (which alas, cannot be found on the internet. Believe me, I tried), starring Bill Murray as an out-of-shape Hercules. Regardless… just watch the trailer. You won’t regret it.

TSATS82-sword5b.jpgThe Sword And The Sorcerer (1982): The protagonist’s name is Talon. He has a sword with three blades! Get it?! Also, the sword can fire the blades like projectiles (though I always wondered when he retrieved them and how they go back into the handle. These things keep me awake at night, people). As you may have surmised, there is also a sorcerer, who is up to no good (and is played by “Night Court’s” Richard Moll!). The Sword And The Sorcerer is utter trash. I probably watch it three times a year.

Kraken.jpgClash Of The Titans (1981): The original, and one of the goofiest goddamn movies ever made. Mechanical owls, phenomenal stop-motion animation, and a cast that belongs in a goddamn Royal Shakespeare Company production (well, except for Harry Hamlin). Honestly, there’s nothing I can say that would be better than Ranylt’s delicious review. If you don’t love this movie, you’re dead inside, and not in the good way.

BEAST_MASTER-2.jpgBeastmaster (1982): The mother of them all, the dumbest of the dumb, funnest of the fun, Beastmaster is just beautiful. Yes, I own it. Yes, it’s on cable every 20 minutes and I probably watch it once a month. I don’t care. It’s horrendously bad, but so, so fun. Marc Singer in a loincloth! Tanya Roberts (who can be seen in the nudie on the DVD)! He talks to ferrets and tigers and birds, oh my! He befriends a great big black man, who also wears a loincloth and will some day become an Admiral whose son was Jimmie Walker. Or something. RIP TORN, PEOPLE! RIP FUCKING TORN, with eyebrows made from the Devil’s nightmares. Strange bat-people without mouths! Long lost brothers, and… um… the hero getting it on with his cousin (squick!). It spawned two sequels, a TV series (oof) and this:

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I say this without hyperbole: Beastmaster is the greatest movie in the history of the human race.









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Comments

If this list does not prominently feature both Kruller and The Sword, and The Other Sword, and The Other, Other Sword and the Sorcerer, I will have to get medieval on your ass.

Posted by: BierceAmbrose at February 17, 2011 12:08 PM

Beastmaster is one of those movies that encapsulates my childhood. It perfectly demonstrates why I am so very very warped. I still get afeared that one day some witchy lady will magically remove my child and make it gestate in a cow or whatever the hell that creepy scene in the beginning was. WORST ULTRASOUND EVER.

Doesn't Rip Torn throw a child into the fire? That movie is SO AWESOME.

Also, this: Also, every year that I don’t get a luckdragon for Christmas is another year where I plan to someday wage war on the universe for being an asshole.

made me laugh like a crackhead.

Posted by: Julie at February 17, 2011 12:10 PM

The love for the Labyrinth is inexplicable? Really? Sir, you go too far.

Posted by: Kat at February 17, 2011 12:12 PM

Legend?

That movie had more cheese than Lambeau.

Posted by: D-Day at February 17, 2011 12:13 PM

Thank you for leaving Red Sonja off the SRL, but what about Warriors of Virtue?

Posted by: Adam C. at February 17, 2011 12:15 PM

Despite it taking place in ancient times (at least, the parts that don’t take place on the fucking Moon), Hercules battles giant robots and there’s more pew! pew! than you could possibly believe.

::starts slow clap::

Posted by: branded at February 17, 2011 12:18 PM

Willow: Extra points for using real hobbits. Plus Jean Marsh in full Snow White Evil Queen mode.

Labyrinth: Extra points for using David Bowie and Muppets.

The Neverending Story: Negative points for self-referential recursion in the last scene. Plus extra double-negative points for killing the horse, for real. The horse drowned while it was being filmed.

Dragonslayer: Extra points for the best stop motion animation of a dragon and for the virgin lottery.

Krull: Negative points for the years of previews I sat through waiting for the movie to come, and then it came and went in one afternoon.

Clash of the Titans: Extra points for Perseus being told of all the problems he has to face, and replying, "But we have a flying horse!"

The others are still on my "to do" list.


Posted by: BWeaves at February 17, 2011 12:22 PM

I'm torn here. On the one hand, this...

Raistlin forever, motherfuckers

... I wholeheartedly endorse. On the other hand, putting Dragonslayer on this list is a disservice. That movie is not "cheesetastic" or "so bad it's good" or whatever the fuck. It is a good movie, period.

And yes, I knew about that Labyrinth manga. I haven't read it, but my understanding is that it's about the baby brother, now a teenager, whom Jareth tries to seduce. Yeah.

Posted by: Todd at February 17, 2011 12:23 PM

Lovely cheesy listing. Pure gorganzola! Big Trouble in Little China should be on this list...ancient Chinese sorcery

Posted by: JaneSpotting at February 17, 2011 12:25 PM

Is it just me or does Leann Rimes look exactly like Falkor from The Never Ending Story?

Posted by: Jadine at February 17, 2011 12:25 PM

I totally had hot pants for Atreyu (that was the boy's name, right? Not his horse?) when I was a kid, I'm not even gonna front.

Also - the Nothing? That crazyass wolf?? Made me scared of dogs for a looooong time.

Posted by: amanda at February 17, 2011 12:28 PM

You're damn lucky that Ladyhawke did not make this list.

ISABEAU!

Posted by: Mrs. Julien at February 17, 2011 12:29 PM

Really, if you do not like Krull, I want nothing to do with you.

Horner's score...the ride of the fire mares...the Cyclops knowing when/where he was to die and choosing to ignore it...the whole idea of an enemy base that is never in the same place every day...the Widow in the Web...

Posted by: Fredo at February 17, 2011 12:30 PM

ladyhawke.

Posted by: matty blue at February 17, 2011 12:30 PM

Excellent list. You shall be permitted to live ... for now.

Imagine my disappointment when I realized cheezy, evil sorcerer wasn't an actual grown-up career path. So, these days I work in software. In management. It's kind of the same thing.

Raistlin / Elric '12
No worse than we deserve.

Posted by: BierceAmbrose at February 17, 2011 12:32 PM

I think you are forgetting that the luckdragon's first few lines of dialogue make him sound like a freaking pedophile date-rapist.

*ahem*
And I quote:
"Leaving so soon?"
"I like children (laughs)"
"You were unconscious... and you talk in your sleep."

And then he convinces the prepubescent boy to scratch behind his ear and it sounds like he's enjoying himself way too much. Seriously.

Posted by: Pooter at February 17, 2011 12:32 PM

I love this list.

True story: While living in LA, my husband and I got a ride home from a party with a guy he sang in church choir with. Nice, average-looking, balding guy. We were told at the party that he'd been in some TV shows and movies and such. Go home and look him up on IMDb ... Prince Freaking Colwyn. FORREALZ.

Posted by: Samantha at February 17, 2011 12:34 PM

TALON WILL RETURN!!!!!!

OR....HE DID.........SORTA......LOOK, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS SEQUEL BULLSHIT HAS ACTUALLY COME OUT OR NOT, BUT.....


TALOOOOOOOOOOOON!!!!!


(TK didn't mention that it's LEE "MATT" "FUCKING" "HOUSTON" HORSLEY WIELDING SAID TRIPLE-SWORD!!!)

Posted by: Jay at February 17, 2011 12:38 PM

Samantha, I'd have been freaking the hell out.

Posted by: Fredo at February 17, 2011 12:39 PM

I totally, completely, and unapologetically agree with the first half of this list. Not so much the second half. I've never even heard of Hawk the Slayer. Huh? I'm indifferent to most of those last few, but if Beastmaster (Dar!) didn't rate a #1 on this list, I would seriously question your priorities. Well done, sir.

Posted by: cydeleida at February 17, 2011 12:44 PM

Red Sonja, y'all. If Willow is up in this bitch, then make some room for Big Red.

Posted by: Chickaboom at February 17, 2011 12:45 PM

@Amanda,

Ditto on the crazy Atreyu crush. His hair was so shiny...

Posted by: Dingles at February 17, 2011 12:46 PM

Ah, that list brings me back. I loved watching those movies.

Posted by: Nikkers at February 17, 2011 12:47 PM

The horse drowned while it was being filmed.

I wish I could un-know that. :(

Posted by: Babypants at February 17, 2011 12:53 PM

Cue Bill Bailey and Simon Pegg...

Bilbo Bagshot: I was like you once. Blond hair. Scraggly little beard. Childlike ears. Full of beans and spunk. I let my principles get in the way sometimes. I punched a bloke in the face once for saying "Hawk the Slayer" was rubbish.

Tim Bisley: Good for you.

Bilbo Bagshot: Yeah, thanks. But that's not the point, Tim. The point is I was defending the fantasy genre with terminal intensity, when what I should have said is "Dad, you're right, but let's give Krull a try and we'll discuss it later."

Posted by: Simon at February 17, 2011 12:53 PM

Dragonslayer rules!!!

It's been a while since I've seen it, but If I remember correctly doesn't the self-sacrificing virgin princess who puts her name in the lottery in an act of saintlike integrity actually get eaten in that movie? Like in a not-so-happy heroic ending? For that reason alone Dragonslayer desererves to be considered not cheesetastic but awesome!

Posted by: Darth Darko at February 17, 2011 12:57 PM

Great list, I own about half of these on dvd since I grew up watching this kind of stuff.

Posted by: Snrub at February 17, 2011 12:58 PM

This list contains some of my favorite films growing up. Willow, Dragonslayer, The Never Ending Story, Beastmaster, Hawk The Slayer, Labyrinth and Clash Of The Titans were all favorites that were watched multiple, multiple times and most seen in the theater.

"Hawk The Slayer" is special, since my mom taped it for me while I was on vacation one summer and we watched that movie dozens of times. My friends didn't even believe it existed until I finally found it on DVD. The repeating crossbow, the elf who could shoot many arrows a second, the dwarf who wasn't a dwarf, the giant who wasn't a giant, glowing silly-string as "magic". Great stuff.

"Little man with pointed ears... I WILL TRIM THEM FOR YOU LATER!"

Posted by: Forbiddendonut at February 17, 2011 12:59 PM

@janespotting

"....ahhh, Chinese girl with green eyes, very rare."

Posted by: KB_explosion at February 17, 2011 1:02 PM

When I was a kid my friends and I stopped high-fiving each other and started shaking forearms like Beastmaster and his warrior friend. Shaking hands was for pussies, we decided. Shaking forearms was for badasses!

Imagine my dismay when his dark, warrior friend left behind his glorious life of combat and opened a McDowell's restaurant in the middle of Queens.

Posted by: superasente at February 17, 2011 1:03 PM

I defy anyone to watch Dragonslayer in high definition and disagree that, to this day, Vermithrax Pejorative is still the best dragon put on screen. No doubt much of the rest of the film deserves a "cheesy" tag. But that MFer takes the cake.

And yes - she absolutely also has the best dragon-name ever.

Oh and her babies actually, you know, ATE THE PRINCESS. There's no pomp and empty promises about that. Or even a mighty hero to the rescue in the nick of time. Bitch got EATEN BY BABY MFING DRAGONS Y'ALL! And you SEE IT! You see EVIDENCE of infant dragon breakfast!

That movie's hardcore. When it's not, you know, being silly.

Maleficent as a dragon is an exceptionally close, like not even a whole hair's width, second. I cowered behind the chairs in front of me in the theater when Sleeping Beauty was released to theaters in the early 80s and that black freaking dragon showed up.

Posted by: lubeg at February 17, 2011 1:04 PM

I usually just lurk.

Posted by: Vermithrax Pejorative at February 17, 2011 1:07 PM

Also: Willow is awesome because my brother doesn't use Burglecutt's [sp?] real name. Instead he became "Butt Buckle". And that is hilarious.

Posted by: lubeg at February 17, 2011 1:08 PM

It's true, Krull did have future stars Coltrane (dubbed for being too Scottish) and Neeson. Aside from the two American leads, Hawk The Slayer was mostly populated by famous faces from British TV, along with Magenta from the Rocky Horror Picture Show!

However both films starred Carry On stalwart Bernard Bresslaw playing a Cyclops in one and a regular giant in the other. He should surely get some sort of award for that!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Bresslaw

Posted by: Simon at February 17, 2011 1:10 PM

The horse's name was Artax.

Yeah that was one of those leave the room scenes for me when I was a kid. Same with the wolf towards the end. And those giant scorpions from Clash of the Titans. Those things used to terrify me.

Posted by: L4NkYb at February 17, 2011 1:12 PM

How is Princess Fantaghiro not in this?? You probably never heard of her, did you? Hmph. Unbearably beautiful doe-eyed Italian women, talking stones and horses, black witches with really bad hair (Brigitte Nielsen), white witches that turn out to be more evil than the aforementioned black witches, princes named Romualdo questing adventurously (for beautiful doe-eyed Italian women) together with their aptly named brothers (Ivaldo and Cataldo)... I spend my childhood with this. It's glorious. Google it.

Also,
Plus extra double-negative points for killing the horse, for real. The horse drowned while it was being filmed.
made me curl up in a fetal position for a while. This exact scene haunted me for years and makes me avoid Never-Ending Story until this day. (Despite Atreyu's shiny hair.) It was traumatic. Poor horse.

Posted by: Rooks at February 17, 2011 1:13 PM

Love it! I will still watch 5 out of 10 of these movies and LOVE every minute of it.

Posted by: Sarah at February 17, 2011 1:14 PM

From the moment I knew what sex was, I wanted to have it with Atreyu.

When I really understood what sex was, I wanted to have it with David Bowie.

Posted by: feramones at February 17, 2011 1:16 PM

Raistlin 4 life!!!!!!!

. . .I've said too much.

Posted by: coveredinbees at February 17, 2011 1:19 PM

Willow is one of those formative movies that I will always love no matter what. It was my answer on the bad mood comment diversion yesterday.

One of my best friends feels similarly about Labyrinth. She's read the manga, and a considerable amount of fanfic, and used to dress up as one of the masked ball people every Halloween.

The Neverending Story is the movie that taught me how to use the VCR. So I could fastforward past that damn horse :-(.

Posted by: Angeleno Ewok at February 17, 2011 1:26 PM

This list started out as "Foxeye's favorite movies of all time", then it got into the "say wha?" territory. Guess I have some catching up to do.

Labyrinthe ain't just a cheesy story...it introduced me (and many other young girls) to what an animus is. And it wasn't an accident - Henson and Froud knew what they were up to.

Neverending Story has some pretty awesome allegory too, but it stops HALFWAY FUCKING THROUGH the story. Neverending my ass...more like GiveUpHalfwayToTheEnding. Without the second half, the first half IS mostly cheese.

The second half is where the hammer falls on Sebastian's head and into your own gut. Where the dark underside of "believe in your dreams and fantasia lives!" is revealed. And it's awesome. They need to have a little fistbump-secret-handshake for the people who read the book and recognized themselves in it.

Posted by: Foxeye at February 17, 2011 1:27 PM

It's not a sword & sorcery epic, but there IS a movie featuring Tanya Roberts in a loincloth battling evil mercenaries wtih the help of her animal friends. It is called "SHEENA" and my 8 year old self is recommending it heartily if only for a Tanya Roberts nude scene.

Posted by: TylerDFC at February 17, 2011 1:29 PM

When I was about 5, I walked into the living room as my dad was starting up Beastmaster. It was that crazy beginning scene with the blue-birthing and it scared the fucking shit out of me. I left the room and have never tried watching it again.

Posted by: Riles at February 17, 2011 1:37 PM

Goddamn, do I love me some Willow. I quote is daily, because I'm a supernerd and yelling "Mumbo! Jumbo! Get me some eggs!" is really fun even though I actually hate eggs (except for eggs Benedict) and that confuses people.

Posted by: (Not so) Blonde Savant at February 17, 2011 1:49 PM

Possibly your best ever article, TK...and not just because I, too, love The Beastmaster (I saw it at the movies in Portsmouth, UK, when it first came out. I was eight), but because your writing here is, if I may say so, clever, full of appropriately epic exagerration, hilarious and, above all, truthful.

Please ensure Dustin sees this, as he tries desperately to be funny/witty/knowing, but isn't (though his writing can be pretty damned good when he's being serious).

Posted by: Carlos at February 17, 2011 1:55 PM

I remember seeing Beastmaster when I was 6 or so and the scene with Rip Torn throwing kids into fire scared the living shit out of me. I never managed to watch the rest of the movie, as it was forever known in my mind as the "kids thrown in the fire" movie.

And I still can't watch the scene in The Neverending Story in the Swamps of Sadness where Artax dies. It slayed me when I first saw it (even if the horse does come back to life at the end) and it slays me to this day. I mean seriously, let Atreyu sink, or Bastian, or that stupid Childlike Empress. Let anyone sink but the goddamn horse.

Posted by: GeekChic at February 17, 2011 1:57 PM

My dad once told me that if I had been born about ten years later, he'd have insisted that my name be Elora Danan. And he wasn't joking.

Posted by: naivehelga at February 17, 2011 2:01 PM

Also, every year that I don’t get a luckdragon for Christmas is another year where I plan to someday wage war on the universe for being an asshole. Seriously. I want a luckdragon more than I want a jetpack.

ME TOO.

Posted by: jM at February 17, 2011 2:01 PM

GeekChic - Sis?

Posted by: Riles at February 17, 2011 2:02 PM

@ Foxeye -
::fistbump-secret-handshake::
Did you read the version with 3 colors of ink?

Posted by: Elmo Tee at February 17, 2011 2:07 PM

Bill Murray IS Hercules in "Il Retorno de Hercules".

It's been decades and I still remember that truly awesome skit. And hey, google does too...

King Laetes: Do you see that boulder over there? I want you to lift it!

Hercules: That boulder is too large. I could lift a smaller one.

King Laetes: So! The Mighty Hercules!

Hercules: In six months I will be able to lift it. Right after I put an end to your despotic rule, Laetes, I plan to start a new regimen - hunting, swimming, eating better.. [ rubbing his belly ] All this will disappear.

Posted by: foolsage at February 17, 2011 2:10 PM

Also, whenever any of you Neverending Story fans are in Munich, you should stop at Bavaria Filmstudios. As of '03, Falcor was still there and we were allowed to sit on him! And I got my very own plush luckdragon to take home :-).

Posted by: Angeleno Ewok at February 17, 2011 2:11 PM

I missed most of these the first time around, but I have seen The Neverending Story and Labyrinth with Little Julien. The latter has got to be one of the UGLIEST looking movies ever filmed. It's as though in his desire to move beyond his usual Muppets, Jim Henson (my patron saint and #1 on my Dinner Party list) felt he needed to push the envelope aesthetically and it just doesn't work. I didn't think it would be possible for a children's movie to be less pleasing to the eye than Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory but he somehow managed it. The whole thing is just awful when not viewed through the prism of lost childhood.

I do like Labyrinth for Jennifer Connelly though. She is so quintessentially 1980s pretty with her B&D hair clips, vest and Ralph Lauren thick dark hair. It's like revisitng my early teens when Lindsey Taylor was the prettiest girl in grade 8 and possibly the whole school.

Posted by: Mrs. Julien at February 17, 2011 2:15 PM

I approve of this list in the most ringing terms possible. Fans of Neverending Story will thoroughly enjoy the following video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1QTVsx736Y&feature=youtube_gdata_player

I think that just might be the official music video for the song, perhaps the greatest synthpop fantasy movie anthem ever recorded. Highlights:

1. A pop singer named "Limahl," a spiritual ancestor of Rufio who makes no attempt to disguise the fact that he's lipsyncing. He's also got a weasel penis on his upper lip and a mullet that would make an Alabamian piss his pants laughing.
2. A female vocalist who alternates with Limahl singing the song, yet is never seen, except as a shadowy profile. She is this movie's Deep Throat ("written on the pages is the answer to the NeverEnding Story...Aaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh!!!" You can almost hear her flicking the lighter and taking a deep drag off the cigarette)
3. Hand motions! And 80's CGI!!! Two great tastes that taste great together!
4. Scenes from the movie featuring audible screams and sound effects. Nothing improves synthpop like a child screaming in desperate panic for his dying friend.
5. The joyness.

Posted by: StoatCat at February 17, 2011 2:15 PM

Not entirely sword & sorcery but it does feature fantasy, magic, witches, a talking mushroom, and Atreyu in blue jeans: Troll!

Posted by: lunggwai at February 17, 2011 2:16 PM

This list is phenomenal. I watched Krull again a couple months ago and it still holds up. I want to rewatch all of these now plus a couple more childhood fantasy movies for good measure like The Dark Crystal and Secret of Nimh.


How does Jennifer Connolly still look exactly the same as she did 20 years ago? Did she drink John Cusack and Matthew Broderick's potion? Has anyone watched Labyrinth since seeing Requiem For a Dream? I'm wondering if your mind goes to creepy places now when you think of Bowie's crystal ball and Connolly's Requiem performance.

Posted by: Paultera at February 17, 2011 2:18 PM

This list is just proof that nobody has figured out how to make this kind of movie without it turning laughable.

Even the lovely Ladyhawke was roont by the wretched, inexplicable soundtrack from hell.

ISABEAU!

Posted by: Maryscott O'Connor at February 17, 2011 2:19 PM

Could find no official mention of the horse dying for real during the making of NeverEnding Story anywhere.

Might it not be one of those internet rumours?

http://msgboard.snopes.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=75;t=001424;p=1

http://141.24.37.187/paulchen/prod/swamp/eswamp.htm


Posted by: Simon at February 17, 2011 2:25 PM

@Elmo Tee
::fistbump-secret-handshake::
Did you read the version with 3 colors of ink?

No! O_O I had no idea there was such a thing...I must investigate this.

::fistbump-secret-handshake::

Posted by: Foxeye at February 17, 2011 2:29 PM

I agree with Kat. Too far. I can think of a million explanations as to why Labyrinth is so popular. First and foremost being David Bowie's junk.

Seriously though, it's an amazing movie.

Posted by: Mel C. at February 17, 2011 2:31 PM

I never really liked The Neverending Story (even as a kid) because they cut half of the story and the much more interesting part at that.
The book on the other hand is still one of the best children's books ever.

Posted by: nicole at February 17, 2011 2:31 PM

Agreed on Raistlin, loved those books. Even when Caramon got fat.

Regarding the Neverending story. Went and saw a midnight screening with my ex a couple years ago. It pretty much shattered my childhood memories of the film. It makes almost no sense, I found it really jarring seeing D.A.R.Y.L. in another movie (without IMDB back in the day, I did not make those connections), was probably the first movie where the editing was so bad it made me angry, and the dialogue - holy shit, the dialogue. Remove all the lines of someone shouting a name (Sebastian, Falcor, Atreu, Artax) and I think there are maybe 10 lines of dialogue.

Still love the theme song though.

Posted by: benjiep at February 17, 2011 2:45 PM

I just tried searching for the "Il Retorno de Hercules" skit. never seen it. I found it's SNL S12, Ep14, which is on Netflix Instant, BUT that sketch is edited out. Now I'll be obsessed until I find it... NOOO!

Posted by: Riles at February 17, 2011 2:48 PM

A couple of years ago I had a bit more time on my hands than I wanted and decided to fill it by re-watching all the 80s fantasy and sci-fi flicks I could get me hands on. Wow. Spend two weeks watching two of these a day, I dare you. What's amazing is how many still work.

Hint: Never watch The Swamp Thing.

Posted by: Brenton at February 17, 2011 3:04 PM

Atreyu was the chick with the mustache, right? Or was it that other one with the pearl helmet?

Posted by: gunnertec at February 17, 2011 3:07 PM

Tanis for life, bitches.

Oh wait, no, he was the whiny martyr-himself-for-love one. Boo Tanis.

Tasslehoff for life, bitches!

Posted by: Brenton at February 17, 2011 3:11 PM

Well, I can see I wasn't the ONLY one missing Rutger Hauer, Michelle Pfeiffer, and, inexplicably, Ferris Bueller in Ladyhawke. I love that damn stupid movie.

I also love Willow...the sexiest Val Kilmer ever, outside of Real Genius.

Posted by: dammitjanet at February 17, 2011 3:24 PM

Also......does TIME BANDITS count?

Posted by: dammitjanet at February 17, 2011 3:25 PM

Great piece, TK.

Where are Legend and The Dark Crystal?

It says something about me that I parse this list into three categories: 1) the cheesy goodness that you are describing, 2) genuinely excellent fantasy cinema that shouldn't be called cheesy, and 3) terrible crap that goes beyond cheesiness and is a blight on the genre.

Willow: a lot of 1), a little of 2)
Labyrinth: all 1), but bordering on 3). (Sorry, folks. I respect the craftmanship; I just didn't like it. Even as a kid.)
The Neverending Story: all 1)
Dragonslayer: all 2). A very underrated and overlooked film.
Hawk The Slayer: Never saw it from start to finish, but what I recall was all 3).
Krull: mostly 1) with a tinge of 2)
Hercules: all 3). How horrible.
The Sword and the Sorcerer: I never saw it.
Clash Of The Titans: All 2), and I don't care what anyone says, I'll accept no arguments otherwise.
Beastmaster: Wonderful, wonderful 1).

I'm still waiting for my live-action Dragonlance movies. They could be the greatest films of the genre ever if given the proper attention. Yes, I believe they could be far better than LOTR on the strength of the characters. I didn't watch that animated version from a few years ago out of fear from the bad reviews, even if Kiefer Sutherland was voicing Raistlin.

Anyway, bring on Game Of Thrones, HBO!

One other thing, because this is the thread to ask this question if there ever was one. Someone please help me. I have asked this on Pajiba before.

Fantasy movie. Probably late 80s. Could be early to mid 80s. Very slim chance of early 90s. There's this guy who is imprisoned by this little goblin-looking guy in a cave. The guy does blacksmith work for the goblin, and he wants to escape. He forges this sword, and tries to cut the goblin in half, but the goblin mocks him and invites him to try to slice him down the middle through the top of his head. The guy tries, but the sword bounces off with a magical spark. The goblin laughs. Then the guy does something to fix the sword, and the goblin mocks him again. But this time, he slices him clean in half. All the while, there's this crow cawing, and there's some extremely goofy musical score to accompany the goblin. This was probably only the first 30 minutes of the movie, and I never saw the rest. Can anyone tell me what this is?

Posted by: DarthCorleone at February 17, 2011 3:28 PM

Yay, Willow. I don't think it's derivative of LOTR though - not compared to most other fantasy.

How about...The Last Unicorn? remember a few years ago when there was talk of a live action version? (could only work with original America soundtrack!)

Posted by: Sara Tonin at February 17, 2011 3:30 PM

No Deathstalker? No Deathstalker 2? Your list is incomplete.

Posted by: Cal Feen at February 17, 2011 4:11 PM

Plus, the dragon’s name was Vermithrax Pejorative, and I don’t know why none of you ever picked that as a commenter handle.

Hmmph.

Posted by: Ancalagon the Aquamarine at February 17, 2011 4:42 PM

dammitjanet, Time Bandits most certainly does count, for those of us who had parents who believed that we needed to see Shelly Duvall and Michael Palin in their skivvies and somehow end up remembering that scene as more racy and horrifying than it really was.
...I had an awkward childhood.

Posted by: Jim Doggie at February 17, 2011 5:15 PM

So break out your Monster’s Manual, throw on your Dungeon Master’s hat and grab a drink.

Dude...its Monster Manual. The Eye Tyrant did not have a set of instructions telling would-be adventurers that the third eye from the left was a Disintegration Ray.

Normally, I would kill you and use your skull for a cup for making that kind of mistake, but a skull simply has too many holes to try and use as a drinking vessel. The only thing worse than bad grammar is wasting alcohol.

Posted by: longcoat000 at February 17, 2011 5:18 PM

Hi, that's me.

Posted by: Vermithrax Pejorative at February 17, 2011 6:17 PM

My brother and I watched Neverending story so many times as kids and I think I cried every time.
More though- I had totally forgotten about David Eddings and all those books I think I read everything he did when i was in high school and could never talk about it with anyone because no one else was reading those. I feel a google search down memory lane coming on.

Posted by: Muertemaria at February 17, 2011 6:18 PM

These look like big, strong hands.

And there, I'm broken.

Posted by: Shane at February 17, 2011 7:52 PM

@Fredo: Oh, I did. My husband thought I had totally lost it.
Muertemaria: I can talk about David Eddings all.day.long. Bring it.

Posted by: Samantha at February 17, 2011 8:17 PM

Excalibur??? It had Helen Mirren as Morgana for christ's sake!

Ladyhawke??? Matthew Broderick, Michelle Pfeiffer and Rutger Hauer!

Forget Hercules and Hawk the whatever! The rest of the list is very solid.

Posted by: LwoodPDowd at February 17, 2011 8:38 PM

Marc Singer moistens me, and always has. My opinion of him was raised significantly when I found out about his family backstory.

Posted by: Jerry at February 17, 2011 9:36 PM

I've been futilely scrolling down to this luckdragon all day. I guess it will remain a mystery.

Posted by: DarthCorleone at February 17, 2011 9:42 PM

"David Bowie’s hair bulge is the stuff of legend"

Fixed that for ya, TK.

Someone upthread commented about fanfic about Jareth seducing the baby brother as a teenager... that doesn't surprise me at all. The internet has finally broken me.

Posted by: MelBIvDevoe at February 17, 2011 10:06 PM

Well, I guess I know what I'm doing this weekend -- reading the DragonLance Legends Trilogy.

Posted by: Three-nineteen at February 17, 2011 10:29 PM

I just realized that I've seen every movie on this list.

Yay?

Posted by: Cherry at February 17, 2011 10:33 PM

I've always felt resentful of Willow because it scared the bejeesus out of me when I was a kid. It was the wolf-things that kill the old lady at the start, then the fucking horrible monster in the moat, and the woman turning everyone into pigs...just beyond traumatizing for me. I think I haven't watched it in 25 years because of that.

Posted by: Figgy at February 17, 2011 11:54 PM

Possibly the best dragon movie ever made, not that that’s saying a fucking lot.

This was true until last year's How to Train Your Dragon. Cheating because it's animation, but still the best dragon movie until The Hobbit gets made (*crosses fingers and toes*)

Excellent list but as it omits both Conan the Barbarian and Conan the Destroyer I must call bullshit. Arnold mangling English! Arnold punching a horse! James Earl Jones wearing Cher's wig and using a muthafucking snake as an arrow! Wilt Chamberlain protecting a virgin! and this:

Mongol General: Hao! Dai ye! We won again! This is good, but what is best in life?
Mongol: The open steppe, fleet horse, falcons at your wrist, and the wind in your hair.
Mongol General: Wrong! Conan! What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women.

Posted by: ed newman at February 18, 2011 12:28 AM

Whoops, I guess I should read the whole intro carefully before I post. Still I am not ashamed. Any excuse to post that quote will not be missed.

Posted by: ed newman at February 18, 2011 12:32 AM


What about Boorman's Excalibur?

It's not sword and sorcery the way Conan is, but there's a wizard and an evil witch and an evil bastard child warrior (like literally bastard) in golden armor with a tree decorated with dead knights.

Maybe not cheesy enough for this list, but perhaps an honorable mention.

Posted by: KosmicKoyote at February 18, 2011 1:54 AM

While I disagree with the "cheesiness" of some of these movies (I have a lot of love for "Neverending Story"; it was basically my "E.T.") I think I know why we still love them after all these years: Practical Freakin' Effects.

Now, I don't hate CGI. Let me make that clear. But I can't see today's kids having as much nostalgia for, say, "Percy Jackson and the Colons" as we have for even something as silly as "Clash of the Titans". In the age of CGI, whatever you want to see can be put on the screen. It almost make things too easy. (And who'd have guessed that once filmmakers would be able to have anything onscreen, we'd see a deluge of remakes, sequels, and franchise reboots, but that's another issue).

But back in the 80's, having a fantastic creature onscreen took a crapload of effort. Watch "Titans" or "Labyrinth" or "Dragonslayer" and the level of craft is astonishing. CGI may look more "real", but it gradually starts to look generic and too "neat". I kind of miss being able to say, "I can tell that an actual person had to animate this fantasy creature".

By the way, ::fistbump-secret-handshake::

Posted by: Some Dragon at February 18, 2011 2:17 AM

Dang, I've only seen Neverending Story out of these, and it scared the bejesus out of me when I was a kid.

Looks like I got a busy weekend of cheese-catching up ahead of me.

Posted by: zeke the pig at February 18, 2011 4:35 AM

Kor, Gulfax, The Sword of Power, The Ring of Magic, a teenage prince, an evil wizard, and a cheesy adventure: "Wizards Of The Lost Kingdom". C'mon!

Posted by: Baby JP at February 18, 2011 4:40 AM

Vermithrax Perjorative is my internet dating handle - I figure any guy who gets it is destined to be my life-long sword-carrier. Then again, I'm still single... Inexplicable, no?

Posted by: cinekat at February 18, 2011 5:50 AM

See, I didn't even bring up my absolute FAVORITE swords & sorcery, hot nekkid chicks and suit-of-armor sex movie EVER...the sublime EXCALIBUR . Glad to see someone did. Jesus, that movie is so awesome I don't know how I even have a brain left every time after I watch it. And I watch it at least every 6 months. Helen Mirren is sublimely hot, Nicol Williamson is beyond awesome and the soundtrack is mind-blowing.

That's what I'M doing this weekend..THE LAND AND THE KING ARE ONE! (cue Carmina Burana)

Posted by: dammitjanet at February 18, 2011 9:20 AM

BWeaves, Artax drowning is an urban legend. Horsey didn't drown! Have a cookie.

Posted by: piedlourde at February 18, 2011 10:35 AM

I love all of you guys. I had to stop reading the comments because I have PLACES TO BE AND STUFF, but I feel like we're all in some kind of giant nerdy childhood clubhouse through our shared love of these movies. I thought I hadn't seen Hawk the Slayer, and was going to be sad that I missed 1 out of 10, and then I read "Jack Pallance" and saw the photo of him with the mask and somehow unlocked all these repressed memories of that movie.

Also, the shapeshifting-python-sexual-assault bit at the end of Sword and Sorcerer scarred me for life. I still have nightmares from time to time. Eeuuggghhhh.

Posted by: Nat Kittyface at February 18, 2011 10:59 AM

Excalibur can hardy be called cheesy, it's just a great s&s movie. And I think practical effects are the main reason for the amount of cheese in this genre up until ooh, LOTR?

Anyway, an overlooked classic of eighties funtasy: The Caravan Of Courage, aka Ewok Adventure
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJObyY3I3Ms

Technically sf, but it actually plays out like a boring version of Willow (and that's saying something). Don't rely too much on the voice-over promise of 'incredible special fx' either... even back in the days as a 10-year-old fresh Jedi-adept I remember feeling slightly insulted by Lucasfilms for luring me to the theatre with this crap.

Posted by: raouldukejr at February 18, 2011 11:14 AM

Erm...Ferrigno can barely speak because he has a speech impediment. He lost most of his hearing. Like most deaf/partially deaf people, he has problems with enunciation.

Also, just putting this out there, Sword and Sorcerer has a...sequel. No really, he just finished it recently, and it stars non other than Kevin "I'm so bad I'm camp" Sorbo.

http://www.talesofanancientempire.com/

Posted by: frobme at February 18, 2011 6:24 PM

What about The Dungeon Master? Where wizard Richard Moll zaps a guy linked to a sentient computer (and the guy's girlfriend) to hell? It's truly, awesomely horriffic.

Posted by: jnpaul00 at February 18, 2011 10:00 PM

I was sitting at work one day while re-reading the Dragonlance series. Raistlin realized that Takhisis was approaching while the portal to the Abyss stood open to let Caramon and Crysania pass. He knew he wasn't going to make it with them. He sacrificed himself to close the portal.

I cried like a fucking baby, even though I had read the series before. I did the same exact thing when Zaknafein, Drizzt Do'Urden's father, was killed by Matron Mother Malice. And when Tanis Half-Elven was stabbed in the back.

Weis/Hickman should've stopped after the Twins trilogy. Everything else was pure crap after that. I didn't give a damn about the Second Generation at all.

Posted by: duckandcover at February 19, 2011 12:50 AM

my 18 year old daughter recently completely failed to understand the charm of hercules (the greates movie ever made in which the hero throws a bear into outerspace).

huh, kids these days...

Posted by: the Fatman at February 19, 2011 5:06 PM

Wait a minute. How come Clash of the Titans gets a mention but not the equally awesome Jason and the Argonauts? It has sword-fighting skellingtons, ferfucksake.

Also, you seem to have forgotten about The 7th Voyage of Sinbad.


Posted by: Ballymena Bob at February 20, 2011 7:00 PM

How anyone can have fond memories of the craptacular Neverending Story I'll never understand. The only interesting thing in that whole bag of pish was the wolf and they didn't even let him eat the proto-Bieber, man-child Atreyu.

And Dragons do not look like fucking labradors.

Posted by: Ballymena Bob at February 20, 2011 7:04 PM

My biggest beef with this list is that some of these movies aren't really sword and sorcery. They're part of the larger genre of fantasy. Like Labyrinth and the Neverending Story. I would call those fantasy, but not sword and sorcerer fantasy. (same with The Dark Crystal. Willow, I feel, hovers on the line, but still does have that 80's Renn Faire, table-top ADnD 2nd ed feel to it.) I don't see a need to take Conan out of this list, since, well, it was apart of that genre. Even more so with Conan: the Destroyer (shut up. I like it.) I also don't see why this list ignores Excalibur, since that was more or less the defining movie of this genre

I am glad that someone put in a plug for Jason and the Argonauts. I always like that one better then Clash of the Titans.

I, also, have a fond memory of The Barbarians. Yes, it was horribly shitty, but it introduced me to A) mostly naked hot men, solidifying my sexuality and B) the concept that no one should wear a mullet.

I'm not sure where I stand on the Neverending Story movie. I know where I stand on parts II and III and the Canadian miniseries thing. . . I also don't like the way Falkor looks. In the movie, I always found him to look . .. weird. Then I read the book, and realized, 1) he's not supposed to look like a giant tampon and 2) that was supposed to be a lion's head, not a dog. My view is that he looks more like a Chinese dragon. Then there's some things I'm glad the movie did, like Atreyu's clothing (seriously, in the book, he has green skin, hunts purple buffalo, and wears chaps and a red cloak. And that's it.). And then there was the Childlike Empress's solo album. I just leave it at that.

Posted by: Rowen at February 21, 2011 2:24 PM

DarthCorleone: I second you on the 'Bring on The Game of Thrones'. Can't wait, now I will have to resubscribe to HBO.
Great list, TK, I actually named my first child Sebastian because of The Neverending Story. And yes, I was scared shitless of Medusa in the original Clash of the Titans, and Krull just creeped me out. I also own a copy of Labrinth, and actually turned my 14 yr old niece into a David Bowie fan after having her watch the movie, she loved it. Those were the best movies of the 80's I thought, even if some of them were creepy and/or cheezy :)

And funny or sad, I have clips of both Labrinth and The Neverending Story saved on my Youtube page. I have seen the cheezy 80's official song to Neverending Story and have it on there. It's definitely worth checking out and giggling at :)

Posted by: Gwen2903 at February 21, 2011 6:39 PM

Ahhh... I would like to say that I put aside time once and awhile to sit down and watch these movies on a rainy day to take a walk through my childhood but that is jsut not so. I watch these on a pretty regular basis and my husband is talking of putting me away if i refrence to the 'bowie pants' again in conversation or send him one more stitch of dialogue via xtranormal characters from willow. These movies are magic to me still, and I dare to say shaped my childhood/teenage years to slant towards fantasy and the way of "AD&D 2nd ed"! this list is mostly complete, i think there will always be exceptions but well done. I feel warm and fuzzy. It's Bowie pants time again.

Time bandits
Legend
ladyhawke
warlock
red sonja
conan
i know im missing others and there were previously mentioned but, meh. i likes 'em.

Posted by: lizz at February 22, 2011 3:22 AM

hi there i was just wondering if any of these movies had a pit of spikes that closed in on the hereos and or goblins howling at the moon near the begining. Any help in finding this movie would be greatly appreciated because i remember those parts from my childhood but cant remember the title. Anyways thanks for your help if you know.

Posted by: chris at March 13, 2011 4:25 AM