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Five Great '80s Movies That Have Held Up Very Poorly Over Time

By Dustin Rowles | Posted Under Seriously Random Lists | Comments (87)



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Nostalgia can play some serious mind tricks on you if you let it. Hot Tub Time Machine demonstrated this fairly well: Trends and fashions for which I had a nostalgic affection, recreated and presented up close, made me a little nauseous. The same principle applies to a lot of ’80s movies. You might have loved them growing up in the ’80s and ’90s, but you were 12. You weren’t very smart. Your brain had not fully evolved. Your entertainment threshold was seriously low. You liked the original Clash of Titans. Indeed, it seems to me that many of us liked anything with a high concept; little else mattered. Perhaps that also explains so many of the movies made today — frivolous, very bad movies, that revolve around high concepts. In 20 years, will teenagers today look back fondly at Yes Man, She’s Out of My League, Ghosts of Girlfriends Past or even Hot Tub Time Machine because of their allegedly irresistible high concepts?

Granted, there are still plenty of movies from the ’80s that still hold up well: John Hughes’s entire ’80s oeuvre, save for maybe Weird Science, still works. A movie like Footloose shouldn’t hold up, but the credible performances from Kevin Bacon and John Lithgow somehow outweigh the otherwise poor execution (Kenny Loggins’s song is also inexplicably timeless). There are also enough cultural archetypes that still exist in movies like Revenge of the Nerds and Fast Times at Ridgemont High to survive the times, even if those movies look extremely dated.

But then there are other movies, like The Dark Crystal (watch it now, and you will fall asleep) or the mostly high-concept movies below that simply don’t resonate enough any more to overcome their terrible ’80s-ness. They’re bad movies; in fact, they were probably bad movies back in the ’80s, but many of us were too young and dumb to understand it. That’s probably why four of the five movies below have remakes in development: Studios are aching to capitalize on soft-brained tweeners intoxicated by high concepts, once again.


5.WarGames: The end of the Cold War rendered a lot of ’80s movies moot (see also: #2), but that’s not the major problem with 1983’s WarGames. It’s technological advancement that has multiplied the already absurd levels of this Matthew Broderick film. I mean: Seriously. Broderick nearly started World War III with a modem and a dial up connection? The Internet didn’t really even exist, and those home computers — like the TRS-80 — had all the artificial intelligence power of today’s cheap digital watches. Sure, it tapped into the idea that computers might develop a mind of their own (like 2001 and Terminator), but come on: They defeat a computer by forcing it to play tic-tac-toe with itself? Really?


4. Mannequin: Here’s a high-concept for you: Andrew McCarthy is an “artist,” whose artistry involves dressing mannequins. Then, one of his mannequins (Kim Cattral) comes to life. Turns out, she’s an Ancient Egyptian woman, and she can only come alive when Andrew McCarthy sees her. And how does this mannequin come alive permanently and live happily ever after? By finding true love, of course. Let me ask this: Were all gay characters in the ’80s from the Little Richard mold, or was that just Meshach Taylor? Look: If the theme song (“Nothing’s Gonna Stop Us Now”) doesn’t hold up well, chances are, neither does the movie.

3. Girls Just Want to Have Fun: Girls Just Wanna Have Fun is like a study in ’80s fashion, and nobody wants to revisit that. Nor do we want to revisit ’80s dance moves. It’s like the ’80s version of Step Up, only the acting isn’t nearly as good. It wishes it were one of those great ’80s teen flicks, but it’s seriously not: Atrocious acting, terrible script, and the sort of execution you’d expect from someone who would go on to direct a “Growing Pains” reunion show for television. It’s embarrassing, though it is easier to understand what the Sarah Jessica Parker attraction was at one point.

2. Red Dawn: Wait a second here. A Russian airborne force parachutes into a Colorado town, attacks a school, and the high schoolers put up such strong resistance that they eventually inspire American troops toward the defeat of the Soviets in World War III? Okaaay. And they’re remaking this? Red Dawn was a shitty movie to begin with, really, but the jingoism, the commie bullshit, and the terrible, terrible script, in addition to the awful acting, make Red Dawn an almost unbearable movie to watch today. If you’re lucky, the only thing you remember from this movie is “WOLVERINES!” Anything else, and it’s likely not a fond memory.


1. Short Circuit: I loved this movie when I was a kid. I mean: Loved. But, man o’ fucking man, it’s a terrible film. A robot that looks like one of those Radio Shack numbers you can get for $19.95 today develops a mind of its own after it’s struck by lightning, plays with butterflies, and calls itself “Johnny 5” after being inspired by an El Debarge song. Short Circuit is a cheesy, horrible combination of Iron Giant, E.T. and Wall-E reduced to the lowest functioning denominator. That should probably be apparent by the presence of Steve Gutenberg, the biggest box-office star of the ’80s who was so bad that, even now, 25 years later, he doesn’t get the reverential treatment that many of the other ’80s stars do. He’s always been a bad sitcom Dad; that just happened to work for him in the ’80s.









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Comments

...ah...uh...eh...oh...I got nothing. No way to defend any of these movies.

Proceed with their destruction!

Posted by: Fredo at March 30, 2010 3:26 PM

I have never seen Footloose. I'm not sure how I escaped the 80s without doing so. It looked boring. And you take that back about The Dark Crystal! I may not have seen it in 15 years but I am sure it is still amazing damn it!!

I watched WarGames recently, it's still enjoyable for its naffness. And that Michael Madsen is in it, oh so briefly.

I haven't seen 3 or 2, so can't be outraged. Red Dawn does sound stupid.

Posted by: Carrie at March 30, 2010 3:32 PM

OK, after watching the trailer for Red Dawn I must see it.

Posted by: Carrie at March 30, 2010 3:35 PM

Every time I see Red Dawn, and gorram it, if its on, I'm GONNA WATCH IT, I wanna go punch a wolverine in the nads. It just makes me turn into Mr. Furious.

Re: Mannequin....you mean Kim Cattrall is NOT made of plastic?

Do NOT diss Weird Science!!!! That movie is inexplicably wonderful. "Can we keep this... between us? I'd hate to lose my teaching job..."

STOP HITTING PEOPLE WITH YOUR REX HARRISON HAT!

Posted by: dammitjanet at March 30, 2010 3:38 PM

Fuck you for this list. Every film on here is great...GREAT!

You've officially gone nuts.

Posted by: DeistBrawler at March 30, 2010 3:41 PM

You take it back about Short Circut! NUMBER 5 IS ALIVE!

Posted by: Jeni at March 30, 2010 3:42 PM

1. Short Circuit

You go to hell! You go to hell and you die!

Posted by: Lauren at March 30, 2010 3:43 PM

Forget Mannequin. What about the sequel? I think it was called Mannequin on the Move or something, which really didn't make sense, since it was...in Chicago or something. And had pretty much the same premise except more cheese.

Which made me love it more.

Posted by: nicacola at March 30, 2010 3:43 PM

You know, without Number 5, would we have had a WALL-E? I think not....

CYBER SPAWN OF SATAN!! WALL-E THE CANNIBAL KILLER ROBOT IS THE SPAWN OF NUMBER 5 AND ALLY SHEEDY!!!

Posted by: dammitjanet at March 30, 2010 3:44 PM

You are wrong.
Red Dawn is a classic (hence the remake). I must have rented it 20 times as a teenager and when I watched it again last year it was every bit as good as I remember. Carrie, don't listen to this goof, go and watch it.

Posted by: Ponytail at March 30, 2010 3:46 PM

How the fuck is Red Dawn dated? The United States has just been invaded by Barak Hussein Obama, a Black Nationalist Liberation Theologist Muslim Communist Vegetarian Socialist Nazi!

I HEAR HE MAKES HIS OWN GRANOLA!!!!!!!!

Posted by: TSF at March 30, 2010 3:48 PM

NOVA!!!

My friends and I would see old Chevy Novas in a parking lot and act like a robot after saying, "NOVA!" (I was drunk a lot in college and somehow avoided serious relationships with women despite my debonaire stylings.)

Plus, "The Dark Crystal" should only be seen by kids under the age of 12 or by adults on psychedelic drugs. It's wasted on anyone else.

Posted by: Kballs at March 30, 2010 3:54 PM

The one good thing about Red Dawn is that it inspired that great level in Modern Warfare 2 titled "Wolverines!"

Posted by: Fredo at March 30, 2010 3:54 PM

Helen Hunt looked exactly the same from the age of 16 to 40, amazing. And either she's very tall, or SJP is very short.

Posted by: greg at March 30, 2010 3:54 PM

TSF: "The United States has just been invaded by Barak Hussein Obama, a Black Nationalist Liberation Theologist Muslim Communist Vegetarian Socialist Nazi!"

Liarmouth. Obama kills flies. PETA told me.

Posted by: BWeaves at March 30, 2010 4:00 PM

"Her pants are blazing for you.!

That was darling hubby's favorite line for several years after "Short Circuit" came out.

Posted by: BWeaves at March 30, 2010 4:01 PM

Speaking of The Dark Crystal, what about Labyrinth? I saw it at a Midnight Movie series a couple weeks ago and man... I guess I just don't remember all the ridiculousness and David Bowie crotch shots - the muppets were still spot on.

Posted by: michaelceratops at March 30, 2010 4:06 PM

Mannequin 2, however, still remains a classic that will still be remembered and praised 50 years from now.

Posted by: figgy at March 30, 2010 4:08 PM

Oh c'mon, Jennifer Gray shooting automatic weapons? How is that not a quality film?

Posted by: Smokin at March 30, 2010 4:10 PM

Shit, if it wasn't for Johnny Five being alive, you probably wouldn't have a Wall-E to love on so hard. So love or hate Short Circuit (and the sequel), you owe it that much.

Posted by: Xtreme at March 30, 2010 4:13 PM

Screw this list. Wargames is a fucking brilliant and timeless film about the perils of war and technology. Does the tic-tac-toe at the end slightly strain credibility? Perhaps from a purely realistic and technical standpoint it does. But from an allegorical and storytelling perspective, please inform me of a better way to end that film. There isn't one. Additionally, all that came before more than earned that moment such that suspension of disbelief isn't even required. Great score. Great acting. Great pacing. Humorous and dramatic. One of the best films of 1983.

And, yeah, I'm saying screw this list only on the basis of number five (that's "number five" in the list, not that goofball Johnny Five), because numbers four through one always were cinematic refuse, even in the 80s. Seriously - Red Dawn was never watchable. I don't care if you were 22, 12, or 2. And Mannequin? There were people that actually enjoyed that?

Oh, and the original Clash Of The Titans rules, and Ray Harryhausen owns all of you.

That's my scathing and bitchy outlet for the day.

Posted by: DarthCorleone at March 30, 2010 4:13 PM

Compared to the gimmick romantic comedies they're churning out now, Mannequin is still a fucking classic. Plus, James Spader as an asshole always holds up to the test of time.

Posted by: DoctorControversy at March 30, 2010 4:14 PM

Nobody puts Baby away from her M-60.

@#2: Dalton's in it. It must be forgiven.

Posted by: D-Day at March 30, 2010 4:15 PM

YOUR MOMMA WAS A SNOWBLOWER!

Still classic. So eff you.

Ah, those childhood favorites. Now I want to go back and see how Flight of the Navigator and Neverending Story hold up. I loved the shit out of those movies, but I'm wondering. Goonies is still great, my 10 year old nephew absolutely fell in love with it after I introduced him to it last year.

Posted by: Katers at March 30, 2010 4:24 PM

I always hated Red Dawn. That movie was awful, Reagan-era crap from the get-go.

Posted by: tamatha at March 30, 2010 4:25 PM

You talk shit about both Mannequin AND Girls Just Want to Have Fun in one post?

FUUUUUUUCK YOU, Rowles.

And yes, I've seen both of them within the last year and still enjoyed them. Bastard. You have angered me greatly today.

My vengeance shall be executed with the pirouette of doom, the costume change of fury. And you shall weep at the beauty even as you draw your last shuddering breath.

Posted by: MyySharona at March 30, 2010 4:30 PM

Can't argue with this list even though I really liked a couple of them when they came out. But honestly, wouldn't it be more of a challenge to find movies from the 80's that do hold up well?

Posted by: EricD at March 30, 2010 4:36 PM

Well while you old guys are arguing about 80's movies, I'm going to listen to my awesome collection of 90's music, watch "Power Rangers: The Movie" and look up some information on hover rounds for you dusty old bastards.

Posted by: Robb at March 30, 2010 4:43 PM

I'll probably get a lot of hate for this but I'd also add Highlander and Blade Runner. I'm sure they blew everyone's minds when they first came out, but I watched them both in the last few months and they were both showing their age with Highlander being nothing short of ludicrous and Blade Runner boring me to death. (Read the book for the latter--it ages like a beautiful scotch.)

Also... 48 Hours. That's probably one of the ultimate "doesn't hold up" 80's movies. What may have once been hilarious mostly comes off as racist and offensive now. I winced my way through that one.

Posted by: Tara at March 30, 2010 4:45 PM

Tara >> You are out of your gourd.

Posted by: DarthCorleone at March 30, 2010 4:51 PM

It’s technological advancement that has multiplied the already absurd levels of this Matthew Broderick film. I mean: Seriously. Broderick nearly started World War III with a modem and a dial up connection? The Internet didn’t really even exist, and those home computers — like the TRS-80 — had all the artificial intelligence power of today’s cheap digital watches.

Those home computers had about five thousand times the power of the computers that got mankind to the fucking moon, so you shut your mouth.

Yeah, I know you're trolling, but so what? Sometimes you just gotta smack trolls in the mouth.

Posted by: mightygodking at March 30, 2010 4:58 PM

DarthCorleone: God bless you, sir.

(You're a guy, right?)

Posted by: Todd at March 30, 2010 5:03 PM

What the ever loving fuck?

SHORT CIRCUIT?!?!?!

MANNEQUIN?!?!?!

i can't believe you. i really can't.

i am literally standing here beside myself.

Posted by: stopthemadness at March 30, 2010 5:04 PM

Honorable mention:
1. Manhattan Project. Almost as ridiculous as War Games.
2. Flashdance. Don't hate. It's fucking horrible. Probably shouldn't mention it here, because it never was good.

Posted by: logar at March 30, 2010 5:06 PM

I'll probably get a lot of hate for this but I'd also add Highlander and Blade Runner.
You are correct. Highlander, whatevs, but I just watched the Director's Cut of Bladerunner again and thought it was pretty great.

Posted by: Brenton at March 30, 2010 5:06 PM

Can't disagree with you much, though. I can see where you are coming from as far as Weird Science goes, but only in comparison to other John Hughes films. It's nothing to the terrible 80'sness of Mannequin, though.

Movies that have held up: Tremors (released in 1/90. close enough) The Last Starfighter, and The Lost Boys.

Posted by: logar at March 30, 2010 5:11 PM

Mannequin is, to this day, one of my favorite movies of all time. I don't care that it's cheesy and stupid, I love every second of it and I watch it at least once a year.

I guess I just don't remember all the ridiculousness and David Bowie crotch shots
You say that like those are bad things.

Posted by: dr. pisaster at March 30, 2010 5:11 PM

What do you mean by "high concept"? I don't get it.

Posted by: ERM at March 30, 2010 5:15 PM

I love Tremors!

'I got a goddamn plan!!' Brilliant.

Posted by: Carrie at March 30, 2010 5:26 PM

Only WarGames was a decent movie for the time, the rest sucked donkey dick, even back then. Especially Mannequin. That should never have been on your list in the first place, Mr. Rowles.

You should have found a way to include Top Gun on the list. If any of you can watch Top Gun now without frequently smirking and/or rolling your eyes, then your name must be Tom Cruise, and a Martian bishop riding a steamroller is coming your way right now.

Posted by: Gozer at March 30, 2010 5:34 PM

You shut your damn, dirty mouth about WarGames! When the computer starts playing tic-tac-toe, and the screen starts going faster and faster, and the lights go out, and the screen changes to nuclear attack projection maps, faster and faster until the whole thing goes blank? And then the computer concludes that the only way to "win" at nuclear war is not to play? GOOSEBUMPS. EVERY TIME.

Posted by: Craig at March 30, 2010 5:36 PM

ERM, I've struggled with the term "High Concept" for years. It sounds like it describes a film that is based on an intellectually elevated premise, but in fact the term is used to denote quite the opposite. Anytime one part of my mind reads the phrase and thinks something like "high-brow concept", I've trained another part to step in and say, "the concept was to get high and come up with a stupid script".

I would like to know the origins of this term from some of you film industry know-it-alls.

Posted by: laredo at March 30, 2010 5:36 PM

Oh, also, if you've ever had the misfortune of owning an HP slimline PC (a friend did, don't ask)you know firsthand that a computer can be completely destroyed by far less intense activities than playing tic-tac-toe with themselves. Shitty motherboards and shitty customer service, the only way to win that game is not to play.

Posted by: laredo at March 30, 2010 5:42 PM

Todd >> Thanks. Indeed, I am of the male gender.

Posted by: DarthCorleone at March 30, 2010 5:49 PM

Tara, The Kurgen would like to have a word with you. Plus, Queen doing the entire soundtrack which is of course AWESOME!!!
And Red Dawn? Not a good movie? Come on, it's a grilled cheese sammich with all the trimmings. Voice Overs, friends swallowing tracking devices, and an angry C. Thomas Howell. I shall hear no more!
Mannequin on the other hand? Piece of crap. Starship? that wasn't even their worst song, but it was close.

Posted by: mrcreosote at March 30, 2010 5:50 PM

I loved Dark Crystal in the 80s. Just tried to watch it a few weeks ago and it was a *serious* snooze-fest.

But for some reason Labyrinth and Willow have stood the test of time for me. Hmm... maybe its time to watch Ladyhawk again...

Re-watched the 80s Clash of the Titans last week.
Forgot how fantastically cheez-tastic it is!

Posted by: nidaros at March 30, 2010 5:50 PM

I would like to throw *Batteries Not Included under that cultural bus as well. I remembered LOVING it as a kid and rented it again with my girlfriend recently. She made me turn it off and make her a stiff drink halfway through.

Posted by: Roaddog at March 30, 2010 5:52 PM

I am going to Netflix every one of these films and watch them and remember when I was young and the world was a good and just place...shall we play a game? Global Thermonuclear War...

(oh, and is it wrong that I was happy they remade Clash of The Titans only because I knew that cable TV would run the ORIGINAL for months before the premiere? Saw it two nights ago...Release The Kraken!!!)

Posted by: lil_a at March 30, 2010 5:53 PM

Shut. Up.
War Games was and is a brilliant movie!
I love that movie.
I'm going to go watch it now.

Posted by: Abby at March 30, 2010 6:00 PM

I still love Goonies, but holy shit, is that movie terrible. The effects are just godawful.

Posted by: Tracer Bullet at March 30, 2010 6:01 PM

As someone who has very recently been tortured with not only the ENTIRE THIRD SEASON of The Dukes of Hazzard and the first season of Greatest American Hero, I say spot on to this list. SPOT ON. Seriously. Most of the 80s held up about as well as Kirstie Alley's figure.

Posted by: Pinky McLadybits at March 30, 2010 6:17 PM

"The United States has just been invaded by Barak Hussein Obama, a Black Nationalist Liberation Theologist Muslim Communist Vegetarian Socialist Nazi!"

Posted by: TSF at March 30, 2010 3:48 PM

Dear Sir or Madam, your comments are egregious and offensive to me. I did not vote for no damn vegetarian. You take that back!

Posted by: greer at March 30, 2010 6:22 PM

I watched The Dark Crystal for the first time this past year, and I was impressed at how immersive and believable it was. A movie with muppets! I thought it was fucking excellent.

Also, Sarah Jessica Parker used to be incredibly smoking hot, both in GJWHF and L.A. Story (I seriously love her in this). Don't understand all the hatred - she's not gorgeous anymore but I don't think she has aged badly at all.

Posted by: Bluesilver at March 30, 2010 6:30 PM

I still love Goonies, but holy shit, is that movie terrible. The effects are just godawful.

Your effect are godawful, DOODYHEAD!

Posted by: jM at March 30, 2010 6:31 PM

PS: Yesterday's list was so full of shit I didn't even want to comment. A non-Shatner Star Trek? COME ON!!! You're just trying to incite us by deliberately picking crap. Stop it.

Posted by: Bluesilver at March 30, 2010 6:34 PM

I was born in '81 but I don't remember seeing any of these. And I'm pretty sure the Dutch would've rerun them FAR into the nineties. Doesn't look like a big loss though. But I'm all for the resurrection of words like 'DOODYHEAD' jM, keep 'em coming!

Posted by: Pants at March 30, 2010 6:40 PM

Are you kidding me? Wargames and Girls Just Want to Have Fun! I love those movies. Still. I find them still totally enjoyable.

That said, I totally watched Center Stage the other night while working on a project.

Posted by: SCannakate at March 30, 2010 6:59 PM

Rowles, the disparaging comments about "Weird Science" will not stand Sir!
Not only is it eminently quotable it has RDJ in it.
*storms off in a huff*

Posted by: trixie at March 30, 2010 6:59 PM

Some of the Red Dawn remake was filmed in front of my house. I was away from school but my parents made sure to send me tons of cool photos of a blown up plane on the neighbor's lawn and an army of Chinese soldiers walking down our block. I am still mad I wasn't around to see any of this. Damn school always getting in the way of what is really important.

Posted by: schrome at March 30, 2010 6:59 PM

How did you limit this to just 5?

Posted by: kelsy at March 30, 2010 7:03 PM

Feh.

Open discussion question: Cinematically, what was the culturally lowest point of the period 1970-2000?

Personally, I hated Red Dawn. I sat through it in the theater, squirming at the bad acting, the awful pontificating and the saccharine patriotic ending. It made me sad that I voted for Reagan.

Posted by: The Wanderer at March 30, 2010 7:07 PM

you lost all your credibility at the dark crystal. its one of the greatest films ever, and has definitely stood the test of time. henson created a complete immersive world and employed a classic quest myth with a far more holistic resolution than most movies, especially movies for kids.

i've seen it more times than i can count and it has never once seemed boring. maybe the nausea inducing frenetic pace, camera work and effects of todays movies blunt audiences ability to take in mood and nuance, or to take time to let themes resonate, to have an emotive response.

the dark crystal has also had about twenty home viewing releases in North America, so i dont think its in the same category as red dawn or girls just want to have fun.

i have sent away for my Acme Troll Thumper and am coming to get you as soon as it arrives.

Posted by: idleprimate at March 30, 2010 7:18 PM

How the hell did "Mannequin" make this list and Breakin' not? I'll sit through Mannequin a thousand times before that pile of dung.

Posted by: Miss Anthropy at March 30, 2010 7:23 PM

Not that this will likely surprise anyone, but I own 80% of this list on DVD.

Posted by: Sarina at March 30, 2010 7:44 PM

Come on man! All the 80s movies hold up because the 80s were cool.

And if there was such a list, no way do War Games or Short Circuit belong on it. Also, Andrew McCarthy had a free pass for being hot.

In conclusion, I must declare this a mislist. And due to a lack of compelling evidence, there will be no new list. Dismissed!

Posted by: Cindy at March 30, 2010 7:53 PM

Skexxies are still fucking terrifying.

Posted by: Jennifer at March 30, 2010 8:11 PM

Two you missed that would probably piss a few people off but absolutely need to be put in their place:

1) Caddyshack

2) The Fly

Posted by: ChristianSeymourHoffman at March 30, 2010 9:02 PM

These movies sucked back in the 80's with the exception of War Games which really has aged poorly. The reason most of you love these movies is because you were too young in the 80's to realize how stupid they were. Only Red Dawn should get a pass cause even in the eighties it was so bad it was good.

Someday my kids will think that Alvin and the Chipmonks are cheesetastic for the same reasons y'all love these. Think about that.

Posted by: ed newman at March 30, 2010 9:53 PM

Tara: You won't be getting any hate from me. I was too young when I saw Highlander to remember it (at least the TV series), but watched Bladerunner in college and again a few years after, and both times was bored to tears.

I wish someone could make a compelling argument why it's so great. I mean, I love Sci-Fi, I love slow, thoughtful movies, and I love concept pieces. Watching this movie now, the most redeeming value I saw in it is that perhaps it contributed to the new Battlestar.

Egh...I know it's pointless of me to even bring it up. I just feel like the only person who didn't sit at the Welcome Table and worship Alan Tudyk.

Posted by: VinceNoir at March 30, 2010 10:05 PM

How did you leave Footloose off this list? Or Ferris Bueller's Day Off or Risky Business? To be fair, I thought Risky Business was pretty damn funny at the time, but the other day my daughter was watching it, and you know? It just doesn't make a lick of sense without Ronald Reagan as President.

War Games was laughable even when it came out. It does make me nostalgic for the days of acoustic couplers, though. Good times, when call waiting brought your computer to its freakin' knees.

Posted by: Wednesday at March 30, 2010 10:15 PM

I still love Goonies, but holy shit, is that movie terrible. The effects are just godawful.

Your effect are godawful, DOODYHEAD!
Posted by: jM at March 30, 2010 6:31 PM

Pajiba: visit for the articles, stay for the high concept banter

I know these films are usually considered in a time and category unto themselves, but fuckit It was 80's, it did and does suck regardless of whatever came before it, so I'm going to say it:

The all time champion of forgiven-at-the-time-but-oh-so-crap-in-the-long-run films is Return of the Jedi. That movie coasted almost entirely on the goodwill of it's predecessors and even Harrison Ford on his 3rd go round with George Lucas couldn't make good with the palsied dialogue and stupid support characters he was lumbered with. ROTJ was the warning that should have been heeded before the arrival of Phantom Menace.

Posted by: Squirrelgripper at March 31, 2010 12:44 AM

Fast Times at Ridgemont High ... even if those movies look extremely dated.
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Phoebe Cates' tits will NEVER look dated. NEVER!

1) Caddyshack

Posted by: ChristianSeymourHoffman at March 30, 2010 9:02 PM
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Lacey Underall's tits will NEVER look dated. NEVER!

Posted by: , at March 31, 2010 12:45 AM

Isn't it weird that I've seen Red Dawn, oooohhhhh probably 13 times, but only the first 45 minutes? I have never actually seen past the part where Patrick Swayze and Co. find their parents in the hastily erected detention camp (was it in the parking lot of a drive-in?) and the dad shouts out:

"Avenge me, boys! AVENGE ME!"

I don't know about you guys, but I hope to one day utter such lines to my own sons.

I do wonder how the movie ends, tho.

Posted by: ASterisk at March 31, 2010 8:10 AM

How about Footloose? Hate to admit, I still LIKE that flick. Top Gun should've made the list. Absolutely fucking HORRIBLE. Short Circuit was and still is a lame-ass piece of shit. FUCK YOU STEVE GUTTENBERG. Mannequin's a no-brainer. FUCK YOU ANDREW McCARTHY. Rocky IV is a strong contender. That shit was HILARIOUS. The Last Dragon is a guilty pleasure. VANITY RULES.

Posted by: Tomasina at March 31, 2010 9:36 AM

YOU FUCKER! Now I have that goddam Starship song in my head. Just for that:
We built this city.
We built this city on rock and roll.
Built this city.
Built this on roock and rooooll!

Posted by: Forrest at March 31, 2010 11:04 AM

The Dark Crystal is as awesome now as it was then. Period.

Posted by: Hybrid1 at March 31, 2010 11:20 AM

I don't give an eff what you say - watched Dark Crystal the other day - it does so hold up, so too does Clash of the Titans. That stop motion Kraken is the shit, as is the robotic gold owl and Maggie Smith as the goddess Thetis. You can't convince me otherwise. Also My love for Splash will never die.

Posted by: villain's minion at March 31, 2010 12:07 PM

You folks trying to bring The Fly and Return Of The Jedi into this just look silly.

Posted by: DarthCorleone at March 31, 2010 1:28 PM

We watched Red Dawn at UW last year. I was in an International Conflict in American Film class.

Posted by: Kait at March 31, 2010 3:22 PM

The Dark Crystal is still awesome.

The name of the movie is Mannequin 2: On the Move.

SPOILER for the idiots who haven't seen Footloose:

My all-time favorite Flight of the Conchords is the last episode of the first season, when Murray hires the bongo player. The first scene has Brett stating that he "dances when he's angry". Then, when he gets kicked out of the band in favor of the bongo player, he starts dancing out of anger. The slow realization that Brett is almost move to move recreating a dance sequence from Footloose is one of the funniest things I have ever experienced. If New Zealanders can understand the genius that is Footloose, why can't you?

Posted by: Three-nineteen at March 31, 2010 7:41 PM

Besmirching the good name of Ray Harryhausen? I ask, why are you the Devil?

Posted by: Jo 'Mama' Besser at March 31, 2010 9:35 PM

Wargames? Really? And because the computers were wimpy, or something.

How many distributed networks were there by the 1980s, and how vulnerable were they? The Internet started out as Arpanet, funded in the 1960s. And the ground-based tracking stations for project Mercury - the program to put the first US guy into space - were a world-wide distributed network. (I know the project architect for that system.) Or SABRE - it only works if all those plane ticket counters are connected to the same thing. How long they been doing that?

And you realize that Jobs & Woz got started making analog phone-phreaking boxes, right? And you don't have to out-process the systems on the target machines, just get past the security so it thinks you belong.

Er, I've heard.

Look, people, willing suspension of disbelief is part of experiencing fiction. There isn't a single movie involving any kind of tech that wouldn't have me shouting a the screen if the tech was supposed to be real I just pretend they're all unicorns and go with it.

Oh, yeah. Wolverines!

Posted by: BierceAmbrose at March 31, 2010 10:34 PM

My name is Reverend Flash, and I grew up in the 80s. And YET - I have never seen 'Flashdance'. (Dug the soundtrack, though.)

Posted by: Reverend Flash at March 31, 2010 11:14 PM

Red Dawn is still fuckin' awesome both for the body count and that it's the the first PG-13 film. I'm glad they're remaking it.

Posted by: Joel Rifkin at April 2, 2010 1:24 AM

i was in my 30's in the 80's and remember clearly that these movies were not horrible' in their day.if one compares these fils to the technology invlved in filmingotday,yes,technically they're outdated.but the storylines and acting and so on are not outdated 'nor poor in quality.the only difference in fact is that compared to today's films,there isn't as much nudity,sexual inferences and cuss words.while some might consider the lack of those things being unrealistic,i see it as being a positive...great movies withoiut having to stoop to adding sex or cussing as a filler to attract an audience.because in today's films this seems to be what attracts audiences as much as if not moreso than the storylines,plots,etc.

Posted by: Brandon Sojournr at April 20, 2010 11:09 AM

Go f*ck yourself. Really.. The movies aren't supposed to be for TODAY, moron. They were made for audiences of the time. Gee, a movie about the revolutionary war doesn't hold up because we now have nukes. Technological advances, damn, all movies from the past are now shit..

Again, go f*ck yourself. Really..

Posted by: Jeri Evans at June 5, 2010 9:51 PM

On the flipside in my opinion an '80s movie that holds up EXTREMELY well is the 1989 comedy-drama hit PARENTHOOD (directed by Ron Howard). Although that WAS the last year of the '80s, it was still in the '80s!

Posted by: Albert at July 31, 2010 2:51 AM