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Skyfall: The Great, The Good, The Bad, and The Really Bad

By Cindy Davis | Seriously Random Lists | November 15, 2012 | Comments ()


There have been a couple of movies this year that had me holding my breath in excitement, waiting to see them. One of them was Prometheus and the other was Skyfall. Though it had taken me some time to warm up to Daniel Craig's Bond, the excellent clips and trailers prior to its release made me certain this would be one of the best Bond films I'd ever seen. And in some ways, it is a glorious outing, easily the best of Craig's three. But Skyfall also bears some resemblance to the supremely disappointing Prometheus, in that it is a beautiful film, but the more one thinks about it, the more it tends to fall apart. The solution is to concentrate on the good elements; it is an entertaining ride. That said, I yam what I yam, so I was compelled to point out a few things...

*Just in case it's not completely clear, this piece contains ALL THE SPOILERS.

Great: The Opening Action Sequence.

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The opening quickly drew us into murder, intrigue and a thrilling chase scene, it hit all the right notes. And then it went a step beyond the usual fare; not only was Bond's life in danger, but he was actually shot by a fellow agent on M's order, and we weren't quite sure how he would survive. Whether or not we ever worried he would die, the cinematic moment of Bond falling off the train was breathtaking and spectacular. The scene also set up both Bond's, and the villain's emotional backstory.

Great: Judi Dench as M.


Dench is simply sublime. She plays M as a decisive, tough woman who isn't afraid to make the hard calls--and never--not for one second, does M come off as a bitch. (In the film and television world, that's utterly miraculous.) We also see M have moments where she is taken aback, or hurt; Dench softens but M doesn't weaken or fall apart. The subtleties of her expression, her beautiful, naturally-aged face, her stance and the way she carries herself...Dench uses every part of herself when she is onscreen.

Great: The Title Sequence and Adele's Theme Song.

Adele's dreamy crooning over Daniel Kleinman's title sequence combined Bond's surrealistic drowning with blood flowing like interpretive inkblots, intermixed with images we'll see later in the film...Chinese dragons, shooting targets, a boat, the island, a building on fire and gravestones. I wanted to rewind the theater screen to watch it again.

Great: Naomie Harris as Eve Moneypenny.




Harris strikes the perfect combination of smart, tough, witty and sexy. At the outset, Eve provides a great Bond partner, fearless and instinctive as she races along--sometimes with him, other times on her own. When she's given the order to shoot, Harris' face communicates her internal conversation, yet she doesn't hesitate to carry it out. Once reunited, the chemistry between Eve and Bond sizzles. That shaving scene...fireworks, indeed.

Bad: The Pointless and Poorly Written Bond Disappears Scene.






Bond is disillusioned, perhaps even angry that M ordered Eve to shoot, disregarding his life, so he goes into hiding for a very short time--or at least, what seemed like a very short time. He's on some vacation island, where he speaks to no one, sleeps with a girl and drinks a lot, sometimes with a scorpion perched on his hand. How reckless he is! But wait, who's that on the telly? Why it's CNN's Wolf Blitzer and like Batman to the signal, Bond cannot stay angry long. He shows up at M's place, waiting in the dark, spews a bit of sarcasm and then he's back on the job.

This scene could have been done so much better, or skipped entirely. (M deals with the formalities of Bond's obituary and other details, MI-6 jcarries on; pick up with the scene at M's apartment.)

Great: Ben Whishaw as Q.

That's one of Skyfall's best scenes. Why of course Nu-Q would be youthful, a smart, nerdy computer guy with glasses and great hair. Whishaw is a brilliant choice for Quartermaster, his incarnation ripe and Bond's reaction--a joy to behold. Groovy baby.


My only quibble--not particular to either Whishaw or the character himself: Only a personalized weapon and a radio signal? We need more gadgets.

Great: Shanghai as Location.

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Shanghai is a perfect Bond-appropriate (exotic) city, and provided some of the most beautiful scenery--including those gorgeous nighttime shots. As if the combination of a terrifying ride up a glass skyscraper wasn't enough, the moving neon images and words had a curious effect reflecting through the walls; it constantly seemed as if something was moving and as a viewer, I felt like I kept getting too close to the outside wall. Roger Deakins' cinematography is consistently stunning.

Really Bad: Casino Scene and Severine.







I must acknowledge that Bond's entrance to the casino is nothing less than spectacular. The lanterns in the water, dragon's head, Bond standing in the boat and gliding down the waterway was a gorgeous bit of cinematography. But sadly, we're onto the bad.

So let me get this straight (*deep breath*): Bond is lured into following bad guy Patrice to the top of a skyscraper, where Patrice shoots a guy in a building across the way; then Bond and Patrice have a kick-ass fight, breaking an outer wall of glass and leaving Patrice dangling from Bond's hand--but Patrice would rather die than give up his boss, so he does. And all this was so Bond could find a poker chip that leads him to the casino, where he meets one of the worst Bond girls in the history of bad Bond girls, she could tell him about her terrifyingly, horrifying, very evil boss, and Bond could handily dispose of a couple of the most hapless henchmen in the history of hapless henchmen...then, Bond could dash off to the Bond girl's shower, even though there was not one spark of interest between them (and even though Bond guessed that she was a sex worker, held against her will by her captor/boss--a little insensitive 007)? All of this so Bond could meet Silva and eventually bring him back to MI-6, because Silva really wanted to be captured? Er, okay. Let's not even discuss the ridiculous, breathy overacting and the Carol Burnett as Norma Desmond eye dramatization by Bérénice Lim Marlohe (Severine), or the silly not-fight down in the Komodo Dragon Pit of Doom. Did Bond even muss his hair? Moving on...

Bad/Good/Great/Bad: The Island.




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Bad: The unnecessary use of a deserted island to prove what a fearsome villain Silva is. As explained by Severine, Silva is so very, very mean that he lied to an island of people just to get them to evacuate, so he could have it all to himself. Mwaaahaahaaa. And Silva didn't even really need the island--just that one computer room, with an elevator for dramatic entrances.

Good: Meeting Javier Bardem's Raoul Silva; the long shot, hearing his words as he approaches Bond and the moment he finally comes into focus.

Great: Silva's opening speech to Bond and Bond's response; who doesn't love ambiguous sexuality? Snappy repartee? "She sent you after me, knowing you're not ready, knowing you would likely die. Mommy was very bad." "Everybody needs a hobby." "So What's Yours?" "Resurrection." "What makes you think this is my first time?" And so on...

Bad Again: Silva takes Bond outside, where Severine is tied to a rock; Silva does a little more of his wild and crazy guy routine, challenges Bond to a shot glass shoot-off (atop Severine's head, of course), and when Bond misses, Silva cheats and shoots Severine instead. Bond shrugs it off like it's no biggie, because Severine really was nothing--not a character, not in the least bit interesting and not worthy of even being called a Bond girl. Then Bond does his thing and disposes of all the henchmen, MI-6 shows up because signal...and poof, Silva is easily captured on the first try, with barely a fuss. Suddenly, he doesn't seem so scary anymore--but don't write him off yet, because he totally meant to be captured.

Great: Javier Bardem as Silva.


Bardem took this villain to comic movie heights; he was over the top and we loved it. His alternately hurt and angry, childlike manner--in the wrong hands--could easily have been annoying. Instead Bardem charmed, sidling up to Bond like a slithery snake, then slipping out from under everyone's nose with a wink and a smile.

The Really Bad: Silva's Elaborate Plans That Mostly Go Nowhere.


After all that Shanghai and island nonsense, when Silva is brought back to the new MI-6 underground location and imprisoned in an appropriately (to his minute amount of violence) overly dramatic looking Hannibal Lecter glass cell to keep everyone safe from his dripping gums, and we find out Silva is really, really upset with M because he used to work for her and M was responsible for leaving him captured and tortured by the Chinese. So as part of his payback plan, he gets a list of fellow agents and outs them so they can be captured and tortured? But never mind that, because now that Silva's gotten himself captured, he has other plans that seemingly involve prior knowledge as to where the new MI-6 would be located (and he'd be held), because when Q tries to break into Silva's laptop, it activates some badass virus that even McAfee can't murder (too soon?), hacks into the MI-6 systems and BAM! Silva flies his glass cage with Bond in hot pursuit. The chase scene is Good, but marred by the fact that when Bond finally catches up to Silva, Silva pushes a button that sets off an explosion, that drops an underground train Silva thinks will kill Bond. Because Silva RIGGED THE ENTIRE LONDON UNDERGROUND so he could set off explosions at any given moment when someone is chasing him, after he got himself captured, then freed himself, so he could get back at M. And now I've lost track of where any of this ever made sense. But never mind all that, Silva is on the loose and Bond has to protect M. Because instead of using anything he's rigged to explode, Silva is going to next come after M with his gun. Except, after all is said and done, when Silva finally finds M in a vulnerable position, instead of killing M he crumbles like a crazy cracker and asks her to do the dirty work for him. But first...

The Good: A Little Bit of Tension Near the End.




As M stands up for herself at the public inquiry, Bond races to get to her before Silva and his never-ending supply of fresh henchmen. This may be the only time the audience actually thinks M could be in some real danger, but by the end of the scene--with even Ralph Fiennes' Gareth Mallory defending M--we should all realize there is no terrible danger that comes in the form of Silva. He's just a whackadoodie. His men do a lot of shooting, but no one can get in a shot at M, and when Bond arrives, Silva demonstrates he's more interested in escaping than killing M. Still, Bond seems wary, so we think we probably should be as well. 007 takes M to his home turf, a place he thinks he can defend against Silva's threat. Albert Finney turns in a nice performance as groundskeeper, Kincade, who at first seems pretty handy, and up for the job as M's tunnel to safety escort, but later proves woefully inept with a flashlight. ("Here Silva, follow this light I'm waving all over the place!")

The Absolute Worst: Silva's Endgame.







Again, the Scotland location is gorgeous, the shots of Bond and M arriving in his Aston Martin DB5 ("Go ahead, eject me. See if I care.") were stunning.

Finally, after Silva and Co. make their grand helicopter entrance, blow the shit out of Skyfall, Bond nearly gets drowned again, and Silva follows Kinkade's signal to the chapel where the groundskeeper and M are hiding out--finally Silva has his chance to kill M. Because it's Albert Finney, Silva doesn't bother to shoot Kinkade...heck, he doesn't even bother to shoot M. Instead, seeing that M has been injured, Silva has an emotional breakdown, cuddles up to M(ommy) and asks her to do the dirty work of pulling the trigger and killing them both. M rolls her eyes, wondering how this turned into an episode of "Maury," and then Bond handily walks in and doesn't even bother to shoot Silva, rather thwacks him with a knife to the back because that's what cowards deserve.

The Good: Ralph Fiennes as M.


Though we didn't get much of him this time around, Fiennes is an excellent choice as future M. It'll be a nice role to wash the Voldemort from our brains.

The Great: Daniel Craig as 007.


It was good to see Craig with a little humor and charm, and yes, a little grey. When first we met Craig's Bond, he was all dialed-up killing machine, shaken--but not stirring. Skyfall gave us a more humanized version--not just because of age or disillusionment--allowing Craig to play with his deadpan delivery and even crack a smile or two. Mendes gave Craig permission to let out his inner Connery and Moore; in my book, that's a great thing.

Cindy Davis really did enjoy Skyfall.

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  • johnokang

    "not for one second, does M come off as a bitch."

    I thought she was pretty bad for at the least the first third of the movie

  • just, matt

    dont get me wrong, i didn't think this was a bad bond film, but it wasn't as good as people are making out.

    I just dont get why they would even cast judi dench as M when they were trying to make a prequel-type run of films. i mean they started fresh with Q and moneypenny, hell even bond!
    Then I thought, ok, perhaps theyre cleaning the slate and trying to distance themselves from the other (Brosnan era) bond films and starting again, but the stupid little line by young Q "we've moved away from making exploding pens" almost circles back onto itself, as chronologically, older Q is the one who makes all the crazy bond gadgets like that. Seeing as casino royale was the start of bond as a 00 agent i find it strange Q would even say that, as we didnt see exploding pens in royale or solace.

    not a bad movie, but as far as linear time sequence related to all other bond movies, a lot of weird mistakes

  • MissAmynae

    Opening scene, credits, and Shanghai are stunning in IMAX, and worth the ticket price.

    Agree with the review, for the most part. I got a tiny bit bored (so...much...running...around!!!) but it picked back up once Bardem got there. he was scrumptiously psychotic!

  • Benny

    "Bond handily walks in and doesn’t even bother to shoot Silva, rather thwacks him with a knife to the back because that’s what cowards deserve. "

    You do know bullets tend to bounce around inside people and sometimes come out the other side, but knives stay in there, right?

  • randome

    just a horrible movie. poor writing, makes no sense, bad motivations. and he loses in the end. would anything be different if bond had walked in 10 minutes later?

  • Andy

    The point I was trying to make is summarised in this picture... Brutal!

  • Andy

    Great review! I
    would also agree with almost everything you said. On a side note one of the
    biggest issues I had with Skyfall is that all of a sudden Bond becomes quite a
    poor quality fighter. One of the biggest things Casino Royale and dare I say it
    even Quantum of Solace had going for it was the brutality in the hand to hand
    Krav Marga style fighting. In the casino scene we watch Bond swinging around a
    HUGE briefcase full of cash then fall into the Komodo pit where he seems
    incapable of throwing even a decent punch. Then a ridiculous henchmen slams him
    into the ground like we are watching midday WWE re runs! Casino Royale set the
    scene of a new age Bond who killed quickly and with brutality and should he be
    engaged in a tussle with an equally matched fighter it always ended with him
    completely blood spattered, ruined TUX/Suit and shaking hands as he drinks a
    5th of scotch to calm his nerves. I don't know about you guys but what I really
    appreciated about the new take on James Bond is that it turned its back on the
    gadgets and over the top technology and created a character that appeared believable
    and even emotionally damaged. Similar to what Chris Nolan did for Batman, he made
    the fiction of Batman appear plausible (In the first two films at least). Now I
    am aware some of you might say that the film was showing you how he had got a
    little out of shape and that the reason behind the lack of intensity. However,
    if I had trained as a boxer for 5 years then stopped fighting for another 5 years
    then got into a fight on the street I wouldn't suddenly starting trying to do
    Karate. Why? Because my brain still remembers how to protect myself through the
    5 years of boxing training I did. Well that's it for me and my rant but all in
    all good review.

  • Silva's escape plan was a plan B to be carried out in the event of his capture. I suspect he was being financed by Quantum, and they have moles everywhere. M's own bodyguard was a mole in the last movie. The location of Silva's cell was probably leaked and bombs planted before they even touched down in London.

  • Johnny Marvéll

    It seems to me that people who say the Daniel Craig 'Bond' films are resetting the Bond continuity either have too much wax in their ears, or are in denial. First, they cannot in anyway be resetting the Bond continuity because, a) there are references to previous events (from other non-Craig films) in Bond's life, and b) at the end of Skyfall, all of the sudden we have a black Moneypenny, and Bond doesn't know who she is. That office scene blew to shit all of Bond continuity, and completely ruined the film (for me and others in the cinema who shouted 'what the fuck' when they saw the black Moneypenny and a young Q - even though John Cleese's quartermaster was suppose to be the successor. Mind you, I had the exact same reaction as Bond did, when they introduced the new quartermaster). Just as they showed great events, and I'm really ecstatic watching Skyfall (after the humorlessness and Bond-less empty garbage of Casino Royale and Quantum Solace) they put the nail in the coffin and pull that idiotic crap with an unknown black Moneypenny and a Q who is still wet behind the ears. Was Barbara Broccoli high on angel-dust when she thought of this idea?!?! How does she expect people to like Skyfall after what they did in that second-last office scene?!
    P.S. the fact that audience members had the EXACT same reaction to the new Q as Bond did (in no way is that a coincidence), shows that broccoli introduced an unknown Q and Moneypenny just to piss us off.

  • This whole timeline is a reboot. The other Bonds never existed. They were pretty clear about that in Casino Royale. Using the same actress as M in the reboot confused a lot of people. Should have gone with Helen Mirren or someone.

  • Mrs. Julien

    We just got home from seeing this. It was not what we expected. Where the hell was the storyline for SPECTRE that has been building for the last two movies? And what was with the freakin; Home Alone stuff? I know some one mentioned it below, but it bears repeating. So much stuff made NO KIND OF SENSE!

    Lots of great stuff, as noted above, but I think the storyline dropped the ball.

  • Agree with everything. Though I really didn't like how callously Bond acted at the murder of an innocent person (also that his association with 'murder' was 'employment.'), and that he let the assassin in Shanghai get the shot off. Why?

  • Johnny Marvéll

    First of all, Bond needed to see what was going on. It wasn't his place to stop the assassin because Bond didn't know who that guy was suppose to kill. Also Bond has to be very careful in approaching the other assassin. If he startled him, Bond would be dead from that high powered rifle. Plus, its a bit difficult to rush somebody when its completely dark and the only walls around you are glass lol

  • Mr_Zito

    It was a really fun movie, the opening scene was perfect, with a lot of action and seemingly throwing us right in the middle of the story. But there was a lot of bad story points in this movie. And like you said, the scottish location is beautiful, but what was the plan there, was Bond pulling a Home Alone 2 move, "oh I'm gonna take this guy to my uncle's home where I can put a bunch of traps in?" I admit I probably missed some plot point there, because it didn't make any sense at all to me.

    And speaking of weird plans, what's with all the villains laying out plans that start with "letting me get captured"?? That's a great strategy for developing the story, giving the villain time to show himself without abusing the captive hero scenes, but it's a really stupid and unpredictable plan, whether you are Loki or a really scary blonde guy.

  • By the look of all the empty racks in the hunting room, he was probably counting on finding a hell of a lot more of his dad's guns there. From the roof, it SHOULD have been a good, defensible location (easy to see Silva coming, being surrounded by miles of nothing). Probably didn't expect the helicopter with cannons on it. Oops!

  • BlackRabbit

    Two parts of Silva's plans actually made some sense: A) he could find out where the new MI6 was located pretty easily, since you can't move a whole government agency in total secrecy. No idea about the cell, And the explosives underground would throw in a lot of chaos.

    But yes, I agree this film was good, and pretty, but not great. And Silva didn't really impress me as a Bond villain, honestly.

  • I agree with the explosives point - I considered the idea stated above, that it was designed to kill Bond, but I actually think it was designed to throw the police into chaos and to provide a distraction from what he was about to do.

    But...I have to disagree on Silva simply because I think Javier Bardem can act circles around most of the other villains I've seen (whose faces/performances I don't remember).

  • Blake

    Great: Naomie Harris as Eve Moneypenny. - NO!.

    I do not want a new Moneypenny (she will always be Lois Maxwell to me).

    Great: Both Winshaw and Fiennes should fall in this category.

    The more I think about SkyFall the more I realize how out of place it seems in Craigs arc as Bond. I feel it should have come before Casino Royale and QoS.

    Both of those movies showed the Bond franchise moving in a new and promising direction why Skyfall moves it back to the Brosnan era.

    I now wonder where S.P.E.C.T.R.E will come into play as it is completely missing from SkyFall.

  • Actually, Skyfall rather cleverly brings us back to the exact point in Bond's career where Dr. No started. Except it's the present and it's QUANTUM and not SPECTRE. Time loop! To paraphrase Basil Exposition, it's best not to think about it too much.

  • Blake

    True. And yes it is best not too think about it too much.

  • e jerry powell

    I want Kevin McKidd as Bond's kid brother. That'll bring in the three-ways, and...

    I'll be in my bunk.

  • $27019454

    THanks for this. I appreciate all the points. I agree, even, with the not-so-good stuff because I pretty much forgive Bond almost anything...THIS version of Bond that is. When it was Pierce Whatsit, I got to the point where I would not even go see the movie or rent it or SPEAK OF IT EVER!

    Craig redeemed the whole shebang for me, and this is the best of his bunch.

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  • jthomas666

    Excellent breakdown. While Bérénice Lim Marlohe is HolysweetmotherofGodI'llbeinmybunkfortheforseeablefuture gorgeous, the whole sequence seemed shoehorned in for the sake of having a doomed Bond girl.

    A good movie, but not great. Good ideas that weren't properly mixed, so that it's like lumpy gravy. Better than QofS, but nowhere near CR.

  • Ruthie O

    I really loved the movie while watching it, but the more I think about it, the more critical I get. The thing that gets to me is that Silva actually won. M ended up dead, so did Silva (who obviously wanted to die). The villain got exactly what he wanted, and no one seemed to acknowledge that.

  • KV

    Why do the Bond movie villains have the habit of delivering lengthy speeches before killing Bond while he is tied and unarmed in front of them? Don't they realize that "when you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk."?

  • It is completely nonsensical, but I look forward to it in every Bond film! Even Empire did a lengthy article on every single villain monologue.

  • It's like in "The Incredibles" (Pixar) when the villain admits that Mr. Incredible caught him "monologuing."

  • BobbFrapples

    It was pretty and it had great moments, but you've hit the head on the nail for most of what was wrong with this film.
    I think Severine was only there to demonstrate how much harder Bond's heart has gotten since the first of the Craig films.

  • TheDeadBurger

    And I actually thought Marlohe's performance was one of the highlights of the film. I was really disappointed when she died.

  • Agreed. At first, I was a little, "eh" about her, but I thought she ended up bringing a lot more emotion to the role than I expected. Emotion isn't something I really associate with Bond movies. :-) On that note, I think we saw it in more than her performance, which I appreciated.

    Also, Sam Mendes really knows how to make a beautiful movie. His color palettes are amazing.

  • Scottieboy

    I loved Berenice Marlohe. She was absolutely gorgeous and I loved her performance.

  • BobbFrapples

    She was underutilized, for sure.

  • Rob

    And ultimately, that was my problem with "Skyfall." I didn't understand why they layered in the we're-all-relics-from-a-dying-age subtext. That would make sense, I suppose, if Daniel Craig is supposed to be the same exact Bond from "Doctor No." But just two films ago, they kind of reset the character with Daniel Craig playing Bond as a newly minted double-0 off on his first assignment. So Bond as dinosaur in this film was a little dissonant. It distracted me from the story and took me out of the film.

    That said, I still loved "Skyfall." It was just gorgeous and satisfying. But I'll argue that "Casino Royale" is the best Craig entry in the series.

  • Could not agree more. In fact, in Casino Royal (agreed - the best of the Craig movies by a mile) we see Bond make his first field kill and achieve 00 status. He's completely new to this. Then Quantum of Solace picks up the same day as Royal ends, so by the end of that movie he is still the brash, young loose cannon agent. Obviously time has passed between then and now as Skyfall opens with him deeply involved in a completely new assignment, so who knows how much time has passed, but going by release dates and with no information to counter the argument, I'd say 4 years passing between installments in the movie world is a safe bet. So in less than 5 years Bond has gone from newly minted agent to ancient relic. That seems odd, especially since this movie tries very hard to put the final pieces in place to create the Bond we know from before - introducing Moneypenny, paying lip service to the gadgetry, bringing back the quips and blatant over use of the theme song. This is a very good Bond movie - it just doesn't match up very well with the rest of the Craig cannon unless there are about 5 movies in between this and Quantum of Solace.

    One GREAT that you missed though - the homage to the Live and Let Die Alligator scene when Bond jumped off of the Komodo Dragon's back in the casino.

  • stenz

    Double-O's have a short life span (alluded to in Casino Royale iirc). If, as you assume, 4 years have passed, that's 4 years of (assuming, again) hard hard hard wear and tear, both physically and emotionally. It would have been interesting to see scar upon scar, upon layers of scars, on Bond, to show that yes, he's an old dog. To have lasted this long he may very well be THE veteran Double-O agent, and subsequently, 'ancient relic'.

  • Monica

    This was my thinking too. I think in the modern age it makes even more sense considering how quickly times have changed with the technology in our lives. What stage were Facebook and Twitter in when Casino Royale came out compared to Skyfall? We can use drones now, not soldiers, etc. It's a little absurd to imply Bond is a relic, but I wondered if that was the point. The desk jockeys are seeing these rapid changes and are used to them versus the field agents like 00s who might not.

  • Abbey Daniels

    This is awesome. I agree with pretty much everything. And *thank you* for pointing out the inherent skeeviness in a dude being like "Oh, you've been bought and sold and owned by men who only see you as a sex object most of your life? Allow me to sneak up on you naked in the shower after we met for five minutes. It's sexy, trust me."

    Hubs and I did appreciate though how well they made all her dark lips and long nails and "glam" Bond-girl-ness start to fit poorly and disintegrate at just the right moment. Right when you're like "I don't know about this girl, she went from gorgeous to kinda unsettling all the sudden," you find out she's dressed up like a doll by someone else who owns her.

    But any of my femi-complaints are greatly offset by FREAKING M. Owned it.

    ALSO: Did Moneypenny NOT have about five years to just *take a second shot* after Bond fell off the train? Boom. Shortest Bond movie ever.

  • Mrcreosote

    Two odd things about this movie. First, after the endless harping about how everyone is old and worn out and possibly obsolete, to reset to essentially the Connery Era Bond seems a little strange. The whole point of the movie seems to be not to live in the past, so of course that's what they do.

    The second, and for me much more disturbing thing about this movie is the rreturn of the goldern era wish fullfillment. At the start, M is a tough as nails woman, Moneypenny is a field agent and Bond is a haggard shell. By the end of the movie M is a man who could slide right into the first Bond movies, Moneypenny has taken her "proper" place as a damn secretary and the crazy gay dude with mommy issues (really?) has been dispatched. Bond is once again the pre-eminent MI6 agent in spite of the fact that all the other agents who infiltrate terrorist organizations appear much better suited to covert operations. Of course Bond got them all killed but que sera. The leather padded door, M's dark paneled office, even the DB6 seem to talk about a yearning for that simpler time when the powers that be took care of everybody.

    I know this seems like some sort of politicially correct mushy critique of the movie, but really the whole movie seems to be about the passing of a torch-only the torch is hurled backwards to 1964.
    Oh, and can someone please inform Hollywood writers of the mouse? Enough with the clickety clackety hacker bull.

  • MGMcD

    Weren't the Craig Bonds supposed to be prequels of a sort? Showing him as a young hardass with Daddy issues getting trained up by M(ommy) to become the pre-eminent MI-6 agent but also to become the suaver, Connery-esque Bond with the quips and the sense of humor? In that sense I think it was very clever for them to find a way to come full circle to the more iconic Bond universe of the 60s-70s while keeping it modern and still moving the story forward. Though I will totally miss Judi Dench as M, I do think that it was interesting how they set up the new universe with actors that we can easily love just as much. And I get the feeling that even though Moneypenny looked like a "secretary" at the end, she'll be involved in the action of future films. After all, they want to maintain the spirit of the relationship from the older films, but they can't be completely tone deaf to the fact that these are being made in the 2010s.

    All of that said, I completely agree with Cindy's assessment of the movie's more ridiculous plot points and holes. Though I loved Skyfall and still unreservedly hate Prometheus.

  • MGMcD

    Reading downthread, I do agree that its strange that they picked this movie to start reconciling the Craig Bond with the Connery Bond. It does seem like only 5 or so years has passed between him being newly 00 and becoming a fossil. Maybe Judi Dench decided this was her last Bond flick so they decided to go ahead and reboot the universe.

  • This universe never really said how long Bond had been in the service before attaining 00 status. Could have taken quite a while to reach the top level. Fleming has stated that at any given time there are only three or four 00 agents. And before being recruited, he was in the Navy for an unspecified amount of time as well.

  • My only quibble—not particular to either Whishaw or the character himself: Only a personalized weapon and a radio signal? We need more gadgets.

    What'd you expect? An exploding pen??

  • $27019454

    Oh I am SO glad they are not going the exploding pen route. SO glad. Hokey.

  • Donna SHerman

    Well said, I agree, I had many of the same thoughts while watching, but I just don't care.

    "Ah! My ridiculously circuitous plan is one-quarter complete!"

  • Fredo

    While I think Skyfall is one of the best modern Bond movies, I do agree with you that it seems as if Silva is going through a great deal of trouble to enact his revenge on M. And how does that pay the bills? How does he convince his henchmen to throw themselves at this problem that won't make them rich? "Look, I'm after MI6's head and we are going to set up super-viruses, rig the Underground with explosives and buy the most kick-ass chopper ever all to do the job one really good assassin could do. Who's with me?!"

    I do disagree on the "Bond in retirement" sequence. I think you needed to show that Bond is someone who is lost and useless without the purpose that being 007 gives him. His only real relationship is the one he shares with M. So when she's attacked, he feels compelled to return.

  • mrcreosote

    He paid his bills by hacking for hire. Elections in Uganda yadda, yadda, yadda. I assume the army of mercenaries is being paid for out of that pot.

  • FrayedMachine

    I'm not a huge Bond fan. There's very little about the series that appeals to me.

    With that being said, GOD DAMMIT I want to see this movie so hard. I have NO idea why, either. It just looks positively fantastic.

  • wonkeythemonkey

    I'll tell you why you want to see it: mutha flippin' Shanghai. Seriously!

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