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Mindhole Blowers: 20 Facts About The Breakfast Club That Might Make You Wonder if You're a Brain, an Athlete, a Basket Case, a Princess or a Criminal

By Cindy Davis | Posted Under Seriously Random Lists | Comments (26)



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Between The Breakfast Club, Sixteen Candles, Pretty in Pink and Ferris Bueller’s Day Off, director John Hughes managed to perfectly capture a slice of teenaged life with humor, truth and just the right amount of emotion. Filming a handful of actors almost entirely in one room, Hughes gave us an earnest look inside the microcosm that is high school—and society. The Breakfast Club is number one on Entertainment Weekly’s “50 Best High School Movies” and reminds us of both the importance and the meaninglessness of that time in our lives.


1. The Breakfast Club features five “Brat Pack” actors: Emilio Estevez, Ally Sheedy, Molly Ringwald, Judd Nelson and Anthony Michael Hall. The rest of the “official” pack are Rob Lowe, Andrew McCarthy and Demi Moore, with a multitude of other actors often thrown into the bunch (Robert Downey, Jr., Mare Winningham, James Spader, John Cusack, etc.). Estevez is considered the leader of the pack.

2. Writer David Blum (who has written and been an editor for New York Magazine, The Wall Street Journal, The New York Press, The Village Voice and The New York Times Magazine) is credited with coining the term in an article he wrote for New York Magazine. Blum was initially writing an article about Emilio Estevez, whose career was just taking off. The writer asked to meet with Estevez and some of the other kids becoming popular (Lowe, Nelson) and as he began spending time with them, noticed behavior that he considered “bratty” (they’d go to theaters and ask to be let in free, ask for a center table at restaurants and bring a lot of attention to themselves). They reminded him of the “Rat Pack” (Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin, Humphrey Bogart, Sammy Davis Jr.) and in the article, he called Estevez and company the “Brat Pack.” The term at first had derogatory connotations and irked the actors. Judd Nelson: “The writer portrayed us as bad people, and we weren’t. We just liked to have fun and I guess that’s not allowed.” Ally Sheedy said, “After the article came out, there was an uncomfortable feeling about everything … we didn’t want to go out.” After a time, the negativity went away and they just became a group of actors.

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3. Hughes wrote the first draft script in a weekend and it sat in a drawer for “a long time.” Estevez and Nelson asked Hughes how many drafts he had written (several) and got to read them all (incorporating bits from different versions). It was Hughes’ intent to film The Breakfast Club before Sixteen Candles; the studio flipped them around. The actors just happened to be (“were lucky”) in Chicago (where Hughes lived) at the time.

4. Hall: Judd came to his audition just like you saw him, in his boots, gloves and with that fuck you attitude. Judd said that he was getting a little rambunctious waiting around and the receptionist called for security. Just as the elevator doors opened (with the security guys), he was called in. Nelson liked that other people started wearing the (Bender’s) clothes because the actor’s mother always used to nag him about what he wore.

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5. Ally Sheedy felt that Allison was a part of her — she didn’t have to find the character. Sheedy knew what she wanted Allison to look like; “…though there were no real goths in her own high school, there were girls who hung out in coffee houses and listened to beat poetry. They were pale and wore dark eyeliner.” Around ten years after the film (trying to “break out” in her career), Sheedy described wondering if the film would ever go away … but now she is “so glad she was in it.”

6. Hughes originally discussed Ringwald playing Allison, but the actress really wanted to play Claire (who she saw as a lot like her own sister). Hughes talked it over with the studio and they agreed to the change. According to Ringwald, Judd Nelson was nearly fired because he went a little too deep into method acting, picking on Ringwald and trying to get under her skin as Bender did with Claire. Being protective of Ringwald, Hughes was about to fire Nelson, but the group of actors banded together and talked Hughes out of it.

7. Anthony Michael Hall spoke of John Hughes conferring with him about casting Vernon (Paul Gleason). They had both seen Paul in this Trading Places scene and loved him:

Gleason was “…a great guy, like an uncle or a father.” Nelson joked that “Mickey Mantle and Bob Dylan were two topics Paul Gleason knew, and he knew a lot about them. He was great to hate.” During filming, Gleason kept away a bit and when he wanted to hang out, they had the power to say “No” (to further the us and them filming mentality). A great character actor, Gleason (Die Hard, “Friends, Seinfeld, Malcolm in the Middle”) died in 2006 from a type of lung cancer thought to be caused by asbestos exposure.

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8. The BMW in which Claire (Molly Ringwald) arrives at school belonged to John Hughes. Brian (Anthony Michael Hall) is driven by Hall’s own mother, Mercedes; Hall’s sister Mary was in the car with them. Andy’s (Emilio Estevez) father was played by Ron Dean, who also starred in The Dark Knight with Anthony Michael Hall. At the end of the film, John Hughes appears as Brian’s father.

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9. Filming took place in a real school gymnasium, which the studio turned into a library. (The same school was featured in Hughes’ Ferris Bueller’s Day Off.) According to Judd Nelson, the Chicago Blitz (football team) had been using the gymnasium and had to move their practices to either the school’s smaller gym, or outside. Judd (jokingly) said, “It was freezing outside—they hated us.” In actuality, during breaks or scene changes, Nelson would go out and catch balls or join in practicing punts.

10. The cast spoke at length about John Hughes’ collaborative filmmaking. Rehearsals were done on set and the movie was shot mostly in sequence, something that Hall and Nelson said spoiled them a bit—they thought all films were done that way. The rehearsals bonded the group of actors together, they had shared experiences (dinners out together) and had time to figure each other out. When filming started, the relationships felt real. Hughes was looking for behaviors and gave the actors the freedom to have fun and goof around. Whatever they come up with was fine, shoes set on fire (Nelson), stick a pen up one’s nose (Hall). Nelson and Hall thought the experience mirrored the film—”…just because you’re 17 years old, doesn’t mean you’re dumb.” Hughes would let them have five or six takes and shot a lot of film. Nelson related that script supervisor Bob Forrest (Coal Miner’s Daughter, The Cowboys, The Prisoner of Zenda), who was brought out of retirement to work on the film, stopped taking notes and used a tape recorder. Hughes would let them continue on (with a scene) even after they could hear that the film had run out. The actors felt it was more like shooting a play than a film and was “a high watermark in their careers.”

11. Prior to filming, the actors went into an actual school, mixed in and got the feel of how things were. Only the principal knew about it. Nelson said it was an appropriate school because it had hallways labelled “Jock Hall” and “Freak Hall.” Nelson actually got sent to the principal’s office because he hadn’t found his classroom in time.

12. Editor, DeDe Allen (Dog Day Afternoon, The Wonder Boys, Henry & June, Bonnie and Clyde) worked closely with John Hughes and the actors. Judd Nelson spoke of Allen teaching him that looping (post-production sound dubbing) could actually make a performance better.

13. Jason Hillhouse (commentator/DVD producer) calls this, “The greatest fuck you in cinema history.”

14. Saying that Anthony Michael Hall grew “seven feet” during filming, Judd Nelson recalled that when he auditioned in New York, he was “…probably two inches taller” than Hall. By the time rehearsals started, he was only half an inch taller and by the end of the movie, Hall was taller than Nelson.

15. Ally Sheedy dubbed Anthony Michael Hall so sweet that her nickname for him was “Milk and Cookies.” Sheedy: “He didn’t like it at all.”

16. The gate at the end of the hallway (in the so called “Scooby Doo running scene”) was really there; it sectioned off an area for problem kids who on the weekend would have to go there. Judd Nelson said every Saturday, he’d to go down and torture the kids, yelling things like: “Hey, you wanna go smoke? Oh yeah, you can’t!”

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17. Ally Sheedy’s “proudest thing about The Breakfast Club was the Bowie quote (from Changes) she had found and brought to John Hughes. She showed it to the director and he liked it, but never said another word about it—then she saw it at the beginning of the film.

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18. During filming, Anthony Michael Hall and Molly Ringwald were only 16. (Nelson was 25, Estevez and Sheedy, 22). Sheedy described the “very shy and quiet” Ringwald as “someone beyond her years, who always seemed 30.”

19. Writer Diablo Cody (Juno, Young Adult, “United States of Tara”)—who appears in the making-of commentary—noted Hughes’ ability to write the teenage vernacular. John Kapelos (Carl) said that “John wasn’t too far from the teenage years. He had a pulse on teens.” Hughes said that every character was himself; some of him was in each person. Hughes made up the term (uttered by Nelson’s John Bender) “Neo maxi zoom dweebie.”

20. Composer/producer/songwriter Keith Forsey wrote Don’t You (Forget About Me) and asked Billy Idol, Bryan Ferry and Cy Curnin (The Fixx) and finally Simple Minds to record the song. All initially turned him down; Simple Minds agreed after being encouraged by their label. The song became their only number one hit.


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Comments

Billy Idol's version of (Dont You) Forget About Me is so very very good.

I always loved Claire's boots.

Posted by: klingonfree at January 16, 2012 4:45 PM

Bender is the guy that makes you go from "awww underneath all that bravado really is a bruised and broken little boy just wanting to be loved, my heart is melting" to "this guy is a rude, arrogant smartass with major daddy issues but he is so hot, my panties are melting" in a nano-second. It's the attitude, it gets me every freakin time.
That being said, if today a 25yo would harrass a 16yo the way Nelson did Ringwald (in the name of "getting into character") he would not only be fired, but slapped with a civil suit or at the very least a restraining order. How the world changes.

Posted by: Irina at January 16, 2012 4:48 PM

klingonfree, her whole outfit was boss and to this day I still want it. The jacket, the scarf, the boots, the skirt, the belt, the whole package is aces. ('cept maybe the pink shirt. I don't wear pink.)

Posted by: Shonda at January 16, 2012 5:14 PM

I LOVED this movie. I watched it so many times, that I had most of the dialogue memorized.

Back in the 80s, I was Allison in high school, but I identified a lot with Bender. Of course, the massive crush on Judd Nelson didn't hurt.

Posted by: Feynmangroupie at January 16, 2012 5:19 PM

The non-mindhole blower of this piece is that I've apparently been right all these years about Judd Nelson being an insufferable asshole.

Posted by: Pete at January 16, 2012 5:59 PM

The high school used was called Maine North. My grandmother used to live in the apartment complex right across an empty field next to the school. I would watch the film crews and the Blitz practice right out my grandma's kitchen window. Very cool.

I'm confused about Ferris Bueller though, I thought that was filmed in suburbs north of Chicago....I'm going to have to check that out....

Posted by: LB at January 16, 2012 6:12 PM

I was such an Allison in high school...

{looks at self} Still am.

Posted by: MM at January 16, 2012 6:27 PM

"Cindy Davis is totally a basket case and thinks Allison looked better before Claire’s makeover."

I agree wholeheartedly.

Posted by: Matches at January 16, 2012 7:29 PM

Is there anyone that doesn't believe that Allison looked better before Claire’s makeover?

Posted by: Radlum at January 16, 2012 9:05 PM

Still one of my all time favourite movies. I can't believe that Molly Ringwald was only 16 at the time. For the longest time I totally wanted red hair because of her.

Posted by: noo at January 16, 2012 10:28 PM

I only saw this movie once (I was 17) and it had a profound effect on me. I'm sure it would suffer on revisitation, so I've avoided it.

Molly Ringwald is a symphony of 80s chic. She reminded me of every girl I hated, but secretly wanted to be like, in high school. I can still dance like her. I also do a mean Rick Astley.

Posted by: Mrs. Julien at January 16, 2012 11:16 PM

One of my all-time favorite movies. Love this Mindhole Blower!

Posted by: Jifaner at January 16, 2012 11:18 PM

"Simple Minds agreed [to do the theme song] after being encouraged by their label"

They were on the verge of calling it a day (as a band) because they hadn't cracked it internationally, so decided to give it one last shot ie do what their record company told them. Young bands call it 'selling out', older bands call it 'pragmaticism' or 'I want the money'

"The song became their only number one hit."

Posted by: Nick at January 17, 2012 12:32 AM

"today if a 25 y.o. would harrass a 16 y.o. the way Nelson did Ringwald (in the name of "getting into character") he would not only be fired, but slapped with a civil suit or at the very least a restraining order. How the world changes.
Posted by: Irina"

"The non-mindhole blower of this piece is that I've apparently been right all these years about Judd Nelson being an insufferable asshole.
Posted by: Pete"

So nevermind that Sheedy described the “very shy and quiet” Ringwald as “someone beyond her years, who always seemed 30.” Judd Nelson was wrong to pick on her because she was only 16. Perhaps we should ban method acting?

Posted by: Nick at January 17, 2012 12:38 AM

Nick, are you honestly trying to say that it was okay for Nelson to harass Ringwald because he was method acting? There are other ways of getting into character than being a dick to a 16 year old girl.

Posted by: Arrogant Ambassador at January 17, 2012 1:40 AM

#20?

That's because Simple Minds sucks. How that Jim Kerr got marriage to Chrissie Hynde is one of rock music's most unbelievable mind-blowing conundrums. She is everything and he is nothing -- a complete hosebag. And his music is like listening to old people humming a song they can't remember.

It must be proof that having a Scottish accent is an indefensible aphrodisiac.

Posted by: hater from siloam springs at January 17, 2012 8:39 AM

And I am still in love with Ally Sheedy because of this film. As they say on YouTube, "Hot-hot-hot-hot."

Posted by: hater from siloam springs at January 17, 2012 8:41 AM

but hater, Kerr "writes the beautiful songs..."

Posted by: ed newman at January 17, 2012 9:22 AM

And dandruff snow makes you hot-hot-hot-hot? Good to know.

Posted by: ed newman at January 17, 2012 9:24 AM

Judd Nelson was wrong to pick on her because she was only 16. Perhaps we should ban method acting?

Arrogant Ambassador already pointed out the flaw in this argument. And then there's this:

"Judd Nelson said every Saturday, he’d to go down and torture the kids, yelling things like: 'Hey, you wanna go smoke? Oh yeah, you can’t!'"

You're right. Nelson sounds like a very pleasant person.

Posted by: Pete at January 17, 2012 10:48 AM

Yeah, the one real downer in the movie is that makeover. Everything else is great.

Posted by: Lucas at January 17, 2012 11:01 AM

"Is there anyone that doesn't believe that Allison looked better before Claire’s makeover?"

*i do*

Posted by: samantha t at January 17, 2012 12:01 PM

I haaaaaaated the make over, I mean Ally is GORGEOUS, but she was all...different and cool.
Man I remember being twelve and wanting Bender and Allison to adopt my angsty little teen self.

Posted by: Nadine at January 17, 2012 4:51 PM

Say what you all want about this movie, but, Dont you, forget about me! Hey,. you got my doobage-I used that quote endlessly after seeing this!

Posted by: brutony at January 17, 2012 7:24 PM

"Clare's a fat girl's name" Ouch! That line never failed to fill me with shame...I was simultaneously in love with and terrified of boys like Bender/Judd Nelson in high school

Posted by: Clare M at January 22, 2012 8:44 PM

Aw, now I'm all nostalgic for my silly teen self.
Naw, now I want to slap that twit silly.
I'll always love that movie though.

Posted by: cinekat at January 23, 2012 9:37 AM