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Is That Supposed To Be Cute? Totally Unlovable Love Interests

By Joanna Robinson | Posted Under Seriously Random Lists | Comments (88)



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Yesterday, Jack Giroux over at Film School Rejects wrote an interesting piece on Ten Not-So-Heroic Heroes In Recent Memory. It’s a good list with some provocative choices (Cobb is a d*ck, isn’t he?), but I had a rather predictable reaction. “No ladies on your list, Giroux? Not even one? Ladies can be d*cks too!” But then I thought about it and couldn’t come up with any female heroes who were unheroic. To be honest, I didn’t think long and hard about it because my mind kept drifting to Sucker Punch and that is a deceased horse (an ex-horse, a pining for the fjords horse), that doesn’t need anymore beating. Then my brain started toeing the more typical gender lines and I recalled all the d*ckish chicks in films that have been pissing me off of late. They’re the unlovable love interests.

Listen, the course of true love never did run smooth. There’s bound to be (ought to be) conflict in a good love story. I rather like a difficult women (Shakespeare’s Kate and Beatrice being two classic examples), and one of my all-time favorite genres, the screwball comedy, is chock-full of dames who are excessively zany and difficult. But you know what you need, as an actress, to pull that off? Charm. Mountains of it. Carole Lombard at her ditziest and Katherine Hepburn at her most obstinate were never anything less than charming. It’s not a lost art. Some modern-day actresses have the lethal levels of charm to pull off what ought to be an unlikable character (Reese Witherspoon in Sweet Home Alabama, Amy Adams in Miss Pettigrew Lives For A Day, Meg Ryan in Kate & Leopold).

But, whether it’s bad writing or a deficiency of charm, I’m sick to death of watching adorable and loving men chase after women who are total wenches. Listen, most of these ladies are jaw-droppingly gorgeous, but looks can and should only get you so far. Not present on this list are horrible female characters who are pursued by equally horrible men (e.g. McConaughey/Hudson in How To Lose A Guy In Ten Days or Stewart/Pattinson/Lautner in Twilight: The Saga Continues: Are We There Yet?). Those dreadful folks deserve what they get: each other. Frankly, they’re doing the rest of the population a favor. So here are some women who do NOT deserve to be wooed and wed by such charming fellas. Ladies, you need boatloads of charm to pull these roles off. No, not dinghyloads. You’re gonna need a bigger boat.

Julia Roberts—Larry Crowne: Tom Hanks IS charm. Sure, in this flick he might be Forest Gump mentally-deficient charming. But, still, charming! Julia Roberts character is sour, bitter and only smiles when she is drunk. Not cute “I’m a little tipsy” drunk. Sloppy “I have a problem” drunk. What Crowne sees in her is absolutely mystifying.
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Kate Capshaw—Indiana Jones And The Temple Of Doom: Really, Indy? You went from badass Marion Ravenwood to…this? This childish, useless, whining brat? I am SUPER disappointed, Indy. We, all of us, like the Nazi chick better. You hear that? She’s worse than a Nazi.
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Renée Zellweger—Down With Love: This must have been a tough script to work with. Pastiche is a terribly tricky genre and Doris Day’s kitten heels are tough to fill. But while MacGregor knocks it out of the park all cheesy grins and cheeky asides, Zellwegger comes off as smug, abrasive and unlikable. I like ol’ Bridget better than most but not in this film.
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Anne Hathaway—Love And Other Drugs: Okay, this is tough, because Hathaway’s character is sick and I don’t like picking on sick people. That being said, dear god is she obnoxious. Gyllenhaal’s character is not flawless, but his repeated puppy-like attempts to win her seem so unfounded. She’s great in the sack…that’s…okay, what else?
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Natalie Portman—No Strings Attached: Dear Natalie Portman, I hate you most of all for making me side with Ashton Kutcher. If you haven’t seen this film (I don’t blame you), Kutcher is, against all odds, sort of winning and sweet. He makes her mixes and brings her treats and makes nice with her friends. He’s delightful. She, in contrast, is harsh, callous and unfeeling. I found myself rooting for Kutcher’s character to cut and run. Rooting. For. Kutcher. Seriously, Portman, f*ck you.
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Catherine Zeta Jones—No Reservations: The original German film Mostly Martha, is one of my all-time favorites. That film proves that if you have enough charm, you can pull off the kind of emotionally damaged and somewhat frigid character this script calls for. It makes sense in the German version why the exuberantly charming Italian chef would pursue Martha. In the American version none of us can understand what adorable Aaron Eckhart sees in Zeta Jones.
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Andie MacDowell—Four Weddings And A Funeral: You think Hugh Grant and Andie MacDowell deserve each other in this movie? No way. She’s the dullest adulterer to ever offend me with a series of preposterous hats. Grant’s character isn’t a monster! He just stammers a lot and proposes to a girl he doesn’t love only to leave her on the alt-okay, you may have a point.
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Joanna Robinson is starting to wonder if that “looks can only get you so far” thing is a total crock. Do looks get you all the way? Is that the lesson here? Also, she knows there are scads of unlovable male love interests. She urges you to dump on them in the comments.









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Comments

Never liked Julia and I dont think she is aging well at all.

Posted by: logan at July 6, 2011 4:07 PM

Yes, Andie McDowell in "Four Weddings..." times a million. Seriously. She just comes across as a terrible person, playing with Hugh Grant's heart, not to mention being an adulteress.

Another suggestion? Ramona Flowers from "Scott Pilgrim Vs. the World." I love that movie, but I don't get why Scott falls for her. She's kind of a bitch, really, and she comes with way too much baggage. I'd take Kim Pine over Ramona any day!

Posted by: MelBivDevoe at July 6, 2011 4:16 PM

I'm so relieved to read that Nathalie Portman is kind of a bitch in "no strings attached", I'm not the only one who think that and if you think the opposite, please explain me why! Really, I'm interested.

Posted by: clairexbaxter at July 6, 2011 4:17 PM

Another recent one? Gwyneth in Country Strong. Not a traditional 'love interest', but she's trying to redeem herself to Tim McGraw after she destroyed his country heart. She's a terrible, terrible person in the movie! Totally unsympathetic and unlikable.

Posted by: K at July 6, 2011 4:20 PM

I haven't liked Andie McDowell in any movie I've seen her in, she's always kind of a dick.

Posted by: snapnhiss at July 6, 2011 4:23 PM

"Another suggestion? Ramona Flowers from "Scott Pilgrim Vs. the World." I love that movie, but I don't get why Scott falls for her. She's kind of a bitch, really, and she comes with way too much baggage. I'd take Kim Pine over Ramona any day!"


Completely agree, I would take Knives Chou over Ramona Flowers any day.

Posted by: agreable guy at July 6, 2011 4:24 PM

What, no dudes? The first person who comes to mind is Ethan Hawke in Reality Bites. What a pretentious hipster undergrad DICK. I never understood why [HIGHLIGHT to see SPOILER]Lelaina ended up with Troy [END SPOILER]. He's pseudointellectual, immature (by being such a joke of a philosophy major/pseudointellectual and predictably anti-realjob/-corporation/-Ben Stiller) and, did I already mention this?, he's a dick. I wanted to walk to the first row of the theater and punch the screen.

Posted by: sars at July 6, 2011 4:25 PM

Oops. My text white-out didn't work. Who the hell hasn't seen Reality Bites, anyway?

And I missed agreable guy's comment. Yes to Kim Pine. She's so much more attractive than Ramona (especially in the comic book).

Posted by: sars at July 6, 2011 4:27 PM

Oh man, Kate Capshaw is the WORST. Just another reason that was the most disappointing sequel EVER.

Posted by: AmbroseKalifornia at July 6, 2011 4:27 PM

You hear that? She’s worse than a Nazi.

Uh oh. Spielberg is calling Dustin right now to have you canned.

Posted by: Paultera at July 6, 2011 4:27 PM

Talking about flogging (in more ways than one) (dead) horses - can I give a special shout-out to Sarah Jessica Parker in The Family Stone? I just don't understand.

Posted by: anne at July 6, 2011 4:32 PM

Well, since Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom is a prequel to Raiders of the Lost Ark, rather than a sequel, he went from Kate to Marion instead of the other way around. So, we can take comfort in knowing that Indy ditched the blond and got to trade up!

Posted by: Cree83 at July 6, 2011 4:34 PM

Umm... Temple of Doom came before Raiders of the Lost Ark... unless you are talking about Indy banging Marian when she was a teenager...

But yeah, great research.

(Oh man, see I started researching, poring over the leather bound volumes that fill the Indiana Jones Memorial Library, but some *sshole kept bashing the floor with a stanchion. It was really loud and I couldn't concentrate so I went home. My bad.--JR)

Posted by: maka at July 6, 2011 4:35 PM

sars, I'll definitely second the non-love for the Ethan Hawke character in Reality Bites. I always thought it was just because I was too old (I was over 30 when I saw the movie...)

Posted by: Neon at July 6, 2011 4:35 PM

And before anyone goes, "hurr, look at the dates," I mean chronologically.

Posted by: maka at July 6, 2011 4:38 PM

Julia Roberts - Notting Hill

She's pretty, so Hugh Grant's character has to fall in love with her even though she has no redeemable qualities.

"I'm just a girl standing in front of a boy asking him to love her" (or whatever it was).

Hugh should have done his whole stammering thing and said "um... no" and shut the damn door in her stupid face.

Posted by: JH at July 6, 2011 4:39 PM

I agree completely with sars.

Andie MacDowell's problem in Four Wedding was that she was COMPLETELY out of her depth in a comedy. Kristen Scott-Thomas could have played the hell out of that part and been very winning.

Posted by: Mrs. Julien at July 6, 2011 4:40 PM

I was going to point out the Temple of Doom prequel thing in a faux nerd-outrage way, but it seems the genuine article has already popped up.

Posted by: Will at July 6, 2011 4:42 PM

Andie McDowell is just a black hole of charisma. She's come very close to ruining a couple of my favorite films. How is it that she has a career and Klinton Spilsbury doesn't?

Posted by: The Mutt at July 6, 2011 4:42 PM

Joanna is the only one around here with the brass balls to wear her ovaries on the outside. I'm so down with this list I think I just came.

Who the hell picks McDowall over Scott Thomas?

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at July 6, 2011 4:43 PM

I'm trying to decide whether I think Kristen Wiig's character from Bridesmaids belongs on here because I liked her and I thought she had charm, just not enough to overcome how jerkish she was to the cute cop.

Posted by: Cree83 at July 6, 2011 4:45 PM

I have a soft spot for the movie Bed of Roses with Christian Slater. HIs character is thoughtful and sweet, but Mary Stuart Masterson is just so bland and unworthy. I still love the movie, but her?

Posted by: Mel C. at July 6, 2011 4:50 PM

@neon, I was about 19 and in the middle of college when Reality Bites came out, and I was really perplexed by my support for Ben Stiller. Troy was the supersmart thrift-store guy in a band while Ben Stiller was the suit who was responsible for MTV's decline. I think we were supposed to root for Troy, but that would have been wrong for anyone at any age.

Posted by: sars at July 6, 2011 4:52 PM

Katherine Heigl in anything - she is a charm free zone.

Posted by: noodlestein at July 6, 2011 4:57 PM

Doesn't Temple of Doom take place before the first Indiana Jones movie? I'm pretty sure that's the time line.

Either way JR, you're right. She was awful.

Posted by: UnlessTheMoonFalls at July 6, 2011 5:00 PM

She’s the dullest adulterer to ever offend me with a series of preposterous hats.
I want to see this flused out into an SRL, and stat.

I agree on adding Ramona Flowers to this list.

You know who I thought of? Susan May Pratt in Center Stage. That adorable cater-waiter wooed her to hell and back and put up with her stupid drama, and all I could think (in 2000, so as a teen) was, "Cute boy, let me take care of you, you don't need this bitch."

Posted by: Patty O'Green at July 6, 2011 5:19 PM

You all beat me to the sequel-is-actually-a-prequel Indiana Jones 1935 vs. 1936 nerdery. I need to be quicker to action on these threads.

And Temple Of Doom rocks.

I don't think Ramona Flowers is unlovable, but she does come off as a bit of an underwritten cipher. I feel like the chemistry between Scott and her is there more because we're told that it is than because we're shown that it is. Maybe her charm is in the comic book or falls outside the frames of the film. (That's not to say that I don't like the film. I do.)

Posted by: DarthCorleone at July 6, 2011 5:26 PM

+1 for ramona flowers
and of course every caracter played by the Heigl

Posted by: clairexbaxter at July 6, 2011 5:26 PM

Ha, that was an excellent point regarding Bella Swann and her two fuckwit loverboys. The world is much better off with Bella just staying in the backwoods with her idiot forever, not bothering the rest of the world who will die and forget who she is. Ooh that makes me feel happy inside.

Posted by: Figgy at July 6, 2011 5:33 PM

Summer from 500 Days of Summer.

Posted by: kerokan at July 6, 2011 5:53 PM

"Reality Bites" would have bitten less if it was just Steve Zahn, Ben Stiller and Janeane Garofalo. Though I guess that's just the interstitials on "The Ben Stiller Show" if you swap out Zahn for Andy Dick.

Posted by: The Fatling at July 6, 2011 5:57 PM

Summer from 500 Days of Summer.

THANK YOU!!!

Posted by: Patty O'Green at July 6, 2011 5:59 PM

Unfortunately a lot of Ramona's personality and the chemistry between her and Scott was lost in translation. She's actually very sweet in the comics and it's Scott who's the asshole (but he has a charming transformation). I loved the movie but that bothered me a bit.

Posted by: beckster at July 6, 2011 6:05 PM

The fat kid from Superbad. Totally repulsive douche who would never, ever get with Emma Stone in reality.

Posted by: Steph at July 6, 2011 6:15 PM

Probably because men write most of the screenplays is why all of the guys are just lovely while all of the women are beautiful and bitchy.

Posted by: kirbyjay at July 6, 2011 6:21 PM

Summer from 500 Days of Summer.
Posted by: kerokan at July 6, 2011 5:53 PM

YES! I *KNEW* somebody was missing and it was driving me crazy.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at July 6, 2011 6:24 PM

Let's face it, most people in "love" stories are dull at best, and often just really unlikable, if not actually repellent. Yet we're expected to be riveted by their "romance."

No thanks.

Posted by: Slash at July 6, 2011 6:32 PM

Gotta agree on Romona Flowers. I love the movie, the energy and the creativity of it and just about everyone in it, but there is absolutely nothing about that girl that inspires anything but disinterest and boredom. She's not nice, pleasant, sexy, fun or interesting. Whether she's written that way or the actress sucks I can't tell, but it doesn't matter. Feh

As for Summer, I've never understood the attraction to that chick. She's cute, but that's about it.

Posted by: Protoguy at July 6, 2011 6:32 PM

You all beat me to the sequel-is-actually-a-prequel Indiana Jones 1935 vs. 1936 nerdery.

Marion and Henry Jones Jr. were together chronologically before Temple of Doom, which caused a rift between Indy and his mentor, who was also Marion's father.

Judges ruling... IT STILL COUNTS!

Posted by: branded at July 6, 2011 6:39 PM

Also, I'd like to enter "chronologically" into the double entendre lexicon. Thanks.

Posted by: branded at July 6, 2011 6:41 PM

There are a lot of love interests (male and female) that I hate, but I can't think of a single female hero I really dislike. Which is probably attributable to there being so few female heroes. Ripley, Clarice, The Bride, Lola, Shosanna, Trinity, Princess Leia -- hell, even Princess Fiona. All pretty great, or at least better than the men in those movies.

...silver lining of the rampant underrepresentation of women in Hollywood?

Posted by: Artemis at July 6, 2011 6:41 PM

I agree, Artemis. We can look forward to the day when men and women are equally dickish in all manner of roles.

Posted by: coveredinbees at July 6, 2011 6:53 PM

Ramona's a bore but Scott's a brat so they deserve each other. Buddy cop movie with Wallace and Kim Pine? Yes please. Young Neil can come too.

Posted by: coveredinbees at July 6, 2011 7:03 PM

As I recall, Bed of Roses was about a stalker. Am I wrong about that?

Posted by: Cabbage at July 6, 2011 7:32 PM

Sandra Bullock in The Proposal. That Cee-You-Next-Tuesday isn't worthy of licking Le Reynolds' sweating gym towel.

Posted by: Jessie at July 6, 2011 8:06 PM

*sweaty

Posted by: Jessie at July 6, 2011 8:06 PM

Um can I nominate Scott Pilgrim for being an all around ass-hat 90% of the time?

Posted by: Delilah at July 6, 2011 8:41 PM

Cree83, I don't think it's necessary for you to like like Annie, if you know what I mean.

My perspective of it was that she was certainly a douchebag a lot of the time, but that was neither encouraged or unnoticed over the course of the film. She has both Megan and Rhodes call her on being an asshole, doesn't she?

I figure she's kind of more realistically an asshole, in that she's redeemable, rather than some jackass we ladies should find sympathetic/relatable (looking at you, 27 Dresses).

And I would like to nominate Kirsten Dunst's character in Elizabethtown. Like, I get she's the Manic Pixie Dream Girl, so yes, annoying. But GOD she is just weird. And annoying. And a liar.

Posted by: Saucin' at July 6, 2011 9:02 PM

@The Mutt - Who are you to speak of Klinton "Klip Klop"* Spilsbury???

Bravo, Mutt. Bravo. *golfclap* Anyone else know who Mutt's talking about?

"Kapow...PWING!"


*not his actual nickname

Posted by: Green Lantern at July 6, 2011 9:08 PM

"Asshat" is a perfect word for Scott Pilgrim.

Posted by: sars at July 6, 2011 9:19 PM

Queen Latifah in any of her romantic comedies. Not that she's ever dick-ish -- in fact, she's always winsome, someone you'd definitely want to hang with on a Friday night. But somehow, her considerable charm doesn't come across as "potential romantic interest." Almost all her films feature gorgeous men running after her character: Djimon Honsou in Beautyshop, LL Cool J in Last Holiday, Common (Common!) in Just Wright, and yet just why these men should be so passionately attracted is never explained or evident. Her best performances have been in serious roles (Big Mama in Chicago, her character in Set It Off), so maybe she'd be better as a romantic lead in a straight dramatic film.

Posted by: PDamian at July 6, 2011 9:28 PM

Summer was supposed to be like that. I think part of the point of the movie is the audience wondering why JGL was so enamored with her.

Posted by: Three-nineteen at July 6, 2011 9:51 PM

Ok nobody hurt me, but.... Buttercup.

The Princess Bride is a fantastic movie, but Buttercup is a whiney little twit who treated Westley badly, then decided to marry the rich prince, then basically just let everyone drag her around with very little actual contribution beyond being beautiful. She never seemed to have any spark or personality at all.

Seriously, watch it again and pay attention to Buttercup, she is the least interesting person in a delightful cast of charming characters!

Posted by: Diamond at July 6, 2011 9:54 PM

Ugh. RAMONA FLOWERS. Fuck that bitch.

She is truly one of the most odious, detestable "love interests" OF ALL TIME.

Posted by: Skyler Durden at July 6, 2011 9:57 PM

Ohhhhh, interesting, Diamond. True Love saved her in the Fire Swamp and she treated it like garbage. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

Posted by: coveredinbees at July 6, 2011 9:57 PM

I always really liked Ethan Hawke in Reality Bites. He made 13 year old Nix rather swoony.

Now it seems like this was the start of bad things to come for adult Nix, since I have dated Troy Dyer in different forms at least three times.

Posted by: nix at July 6, 2011 10:15 PM

I ... I ... have no opnion. I'm wholly indifferent to this post.

Dammit! Comment sections are for people with strong opinions! I'm wasting precious space that could be used by BarbadoSlim!

Posted by: Leftylad at July 6, 2011 10:19 PM


What Crowne sees in her is absolutely mystifying.

Availability.

Posted by: Meander at July 6, 2011 10:22 PM

Oh I hate to cast aspersions on Buttercup, but yeah... she pretty much sucks. She is mean to Wesley until she realizes how hot he is & she has almost zero personality. Poor Wesley...

Posted by: Bodhi at July 6, 2011 10:32 PM

Jesus H Ronald Christ Reagan. That header pic is a spermicide. People wanna keep their darling beloved 16 year old daughters virgins until the High School football hero gets a job selling cars and puts a ring on it? Forget chastity camps. Forget condoms (Heavens NO!). Just make them wear that picture as a mask. Boners will wilt in at least a 20 yard (18.2 meter) radius.

To quote Mel Brooks, "Woof!".`

Posted by: Groundloop at July 6, 2011 10:46 PM

Sure Temple of Doom is a prequel to Raiders of the Lost Arc, but didn't Indy know Marion from before Raiders? I don't think that before time is cemented in the chronology, so it could have been some time before Temple of Doom as well. Therefore, Joanna isn't necessarily wrong. :p

Posted by: fracas at July 6, 2011 10:47 PM

Buttercup is even less likable in the book. In the book she's one seriously stupid girl, not just all caught up in herself.

Still love Princess Bride though.

And although I did not like 500 Days of Summer (Greeting card writer? Really?), I'll defend Summer. We mostly only got to see her as contrasted with how JGL's character wanted her to be, not how she was.

Now, dare I call down the wrath of a thousand voices? Someone please tell me why Ione Skye was so pedestal-worthy in Say Anything. Girl had some major daddy issues, and despite being cute and smart, nobody deserves that level of adoration.

Posted by: Wednesday at July 6, 2011 10:53 PM

Variation on the theme: just as any role Rosalind Russell ever played would be insufferable in Julia Robert's hands, there are certain male roles that are saved by the charm of the actors. Captain Van Trapp was a horrible horrible man - except that Christopher Plummer made him so suave and charming.

Posted by: Edith at July 6, 2011 11:41 PM

oh god did I hate No Strings Attached (seriously, SO MUCH) and I'm a sucker for rom coms. Both characters are total assholes, but Natalie is definitely the worst of the two.

To those suggesting Summer from (500)Days of Summer, she's not supposed to be the romantic lead, not really. The whole movie is about how they tried to make it work but really aren't meant for each other, and in the end they go their separate ways.

Posted by: Even Stevens at July 7, 2011 1:43 AM

Well, I know she's not a main character as such, but why the Hell did Rob Gordon like his ex so damn much in High Fidelity?
Seriously, that scene in the car when she says she'll take him back... I was waiting for him to just say "actually... No. You're a bitch", but no, he has to be a masochist and stick with the annoying bint. Unimpressed.

Posted by: Tabby at July 7, 2011 2:41 AM

don't you dare say anything bad about troy dyer. i LOVED this guy when i was 14.

Posted by: Jeannine at July 7, 2011 4:12 AM

Strong list.

LMAO "bashing the floor with a stanchion"

Posted by: Mish Mumkin at July 7, 2011 4:27 AM

Having recently rewatched High Fidelity for the first time in a while...it's Rob that's the dick. Not irredeemably so, but the character is kind of a cock and it's ultimately surprising that Laura takes him back.

I agree about Ramona Flowers, even though Scott Pilgrim was my favourite film of 2010. The character in the comic is really sweet and the relationship makes more sense. In the movie it's little more than "She's hot, I'm going to fight other dudes for that".

Posted by: Arran at July 7, 2011 5:38 AM

@Arran, seriously? I never found him dickish, somewhat lacking in the balls and backbone department but no more dickish than the average scene guy. She on the other hand is horrible to him, even making passive aggressive comments about his sexual capabilities. And I hate her stupid fringe!
(I will give you that going out and sleeping with Marie could be seen as dickish, but red-blooded recently dumped male and all that...)

Posted by: Tabby at July 7, 2011 6:42 AM

@Green Lantern - Hah! I knew somebody would get it!

Posted by: The Mutt at July 7, 2011 7:39 AM

Eighthing the nomination for Summer. Whether or not she was written that way on purpose, she was neither cute nor loveable nor charming.

It's a great movie - with great commentary on relationships. JGL got what he deserved. I totally agree that it's difficult to figure out why he was a lovesick puppy for Summer.

Posted by: Sbrown at July 7, 2011 9:16 AM

Never liked Julia and I dont think she is aging well at all.

Posted by: logan at July 6, 2011 4:07
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Seconded.

By coincidence, the other day I was trying to explain my dislike of JR to Mrs. , and I said, "Do you remember 'Mystic Pizza,' where IIRC she thinks her guy is cheating on her and she dumps a load of ... what was it, manure? ['I thought it was concrete,' Mrs. , said] and that's supposed to show that she's volatile but charming and winning and she gets away with it because she has megawatt teeth? I thought she was just an asshole. She ruined the guy's car. And she plays that character in EVERY MOVIE."

Mrs. , likes her anyway.

You can't explain love.

Posted by: , at July 7, 2011 9:40 AM

Diane Court is a priss.

Posted by: TheEmpress at July 7, 2011 11:22 AM

I have to say I agree about Annie in Bridesmaids.

She was just... a jerk. I kept waiting for her to realise and stop being said jerk, but nope. Didn't happen. He should have ended up with the repressed Mormon Pixar chick.

Posted by: Jen at July 7, 2011 12:13 PM

As to Reality Bites: Ethan Hawke was cuter and more of a game-player. I think that's truly the only justification, and it's a realistic one. Winona's character was, at root, superficial and never would've gone for somebody like Stiller. Maybe people forget what a cutie-patootie Hawke was back in the day.

And, Andie - were you out of your damn mind opting for Blane over Steff in Pretty in Pink? No, I'm not talking about Duckie, I'm talking about Steff.

Posted by: samantha t at July 7, 2011 2:00 PM

What was that Marisa Tomei/Robert Downey Jr bit from way back when? She was so completely, obnoxiously, gratingly IRRITATING I couldn't understand how she could handle living in her own skin, let alone understand how RDJ could go all knock-kneed for her.

ONLY YOU - that's what it was called. Dear heavens, that kid was a head case.

Let's also add the groveling Jason Segal character from "Forgetting Sarah Marshall." Pitiful, un-funny, "stuck-on-the-ex" pu55y ought not the hottest girl get. Seriously un-loveable.

Posted by: heatheradair at July 7, 2011 2:41 PM

No mention of Cameron Diaz in ---ANYthing? She was likeable in Something About Mary but has failed to move my little black heart in anything since.

Another starlet that does nothing for me is ScarJo. I actually liked her in Horse Whisperer, but then she went all sexpot, and I have yet to warm to her form (or over-processed hair). Lost in Translation just made me feel really sad for Bill.

And while I agree about Buttercup being as welcoming as an alabaster slab, she was SUPPOSED to be despicable, so I don't know if we should hold that against Robin Wright, although, now that I think about it, she hasn't seemed particularly attractive in anything else.

And finally, Julia Roberts is one of those people you either like or hate. I like her laugh. It's big and goofy. I like people who aren't self-conscious about the way they laugh. And the reason she seems to be aging poorly is probably because she hasn't been snipped, tucked, tied and plumped (in an obvious sorta wind-tunnel way) by Hollywood docs. That makes me at least think she has some sense, which makes me think she's not all bad. I can't imagine what it must feel like to be one of the few 40-something actresses in Hollywood who hasn't succummbed to major, dreadful "enhancements."

Oh, and Edith, I SO agree: Christopher Plummer in Sound of Music STILL makes me swoon. "The heart has its reasons whereof reason knows nothing," or something like that. (Although I think there is a damn-good reason to love Plummer's Capt. Von Trapp.)

Posted by: Stinky at July 7, 2011 3:47 PM

Danny in Grease. He's a slimeball, a loser, and doesn't ever give the impression that he respects Sandy at all. The script hides the fact that there is no reason for these two opposites to be together at all by having the entire romance occur basically off-screen.

Posted by: dagnabbit at July 7, 2011 5:14 PM

Princess Leia in Star Wars.
At a point where all she knows about these guys is that they're risking death against tremendous odds trying to save her, and she's already dumping on them. She doesn't really get more appealing later, IMHO.

Posted by: Pat C. at July 7, 2011 7:16 PM

Sorry, but I can't help but love Scarjo in Lost in Translation. I suspect it's not completely her doing as much as the story and scenario.

Rob Gordon was totally a dick in the movie. Self-involved to an obscene degree. All you have to witness is how he confronts the one ex, who confessed their breakup nearly destroyed her and how relieved he is that he was the dumper not the dumpee, to see that. The scenes with CZJ only cement that. The difference is that he isn't as bad with his girlfriend and the point of the movie was his personal growth in that exact arena anyway, so he's kinda gotta be a bit of a dick to start out or there's no story.

I can't help but still love Julia's smile, even now when it's obviously an effort to pull those lips over her ever-more-horsey teeth.

Posted by: Protoguy at July 7, 2011 11:20 PM

Ali McGraw in Love Story. I totally hated that bitch.

Posted by: Jifaner at July 7, 2011 11:32 PM

So much yes for Kate Capshaw in Temple of Doom. She almost ruined the movie for me. Luckily, Short Round saved it.

Christopher Plummer is soooooooooo fine in The Sound of Music.

I'm glad someone brought up Danny in Grease. At the end, Sandy totally sluts herself out for Danny, and he, what, puts a varsity sweater on over his normal clothes? Gee, you sure tried hard. And he just takes it off later anyway, after he realizes that he doesn't have to make any effort because she's done all the changing. What kind of message is that for girls?

As for Ramona in Scott Pilgrim, I haven't seen the movie but I have read the books, so I can say she's supposed to be sort of hard to get close to. She has a lot of baggage and she's really insecure. She and Scott both grow up a lot in the course of the books. And, you know, him having to fight her evil ex-boyfriends is a metaphor for him having to deal with all her baggage before she'll let him get close to her. So it's pretty much the point for her to be flawed. Anyway, I like her in the books, but they may have not done it quite right in the movie.

Posted by: Corntree at July 8, 2011 2:17 AM

Oh, also Scott was pretty much an immature, insensitive dickhead, so to me it was about two screwed up people growing up and trying to have a real, mature relationship.

Posted by: Corntree at July 8, 2011 2:20 AM

Add me to the chorus of Ramona Flowers haters. I never understood why Scott would chose her over cute as a button knives. I also find it interesting that the qualities I often like in "bad boy" characters (brooding, complicated, sarcastic, etc.) I absolutely despise in female characters. For example, if Ramona Flowers were a male character I'm embarrassed to admit I'd probably find all the qualities I hate about her kind of attractive.

Posted by: Gia at July 8, 2011 3:31 AM

Oh my god, that picture of AHath... WOW.

Posted by: Brian at July 8, 2011 3:41 PM

Heatheradair, I 10000000% agree with you about Only You.

I love the movie, for reasons even I don't know...but Faith (Marisa Tomei) is the most, selfish, self-centered, bitchiest bitch in existence! In what fucked up universe would anyone want to be with THAT.

I would be so bold as to say that she is probably the most loathsome lead in all of rom-com history.

Posted by: citizen_cris at July 10, 2011 3:34 PM

@anne: totally agreed on SJP in The Family Stone!! That kind of ruined that whole movie for me.

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Posted by: Engagement Rings at July 28, 2011 6:23 PM