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John Stossel And His Douchtache Think Women Should Pay More For Healthcare Because "Maybe They're Hypochondriacs"

By Joanna Robinson | Miscellaneous | October 31, 2013 | Comments ()


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Where does John Stossel work? What is his pulpit of choice? Why Fox News of course. Stossel, with his righteous indignation at full throttle, was on Fox & Friends today breaking down the “worst” part of Obamacare. The part that “just kills the market.” He said:

The competition of the market is the only thing that makes things better. Yesterday, President Obama stood in front of a bunch of women in Massachusetts and said, “No longer will those evil insurance companies be able to charge you women more.”

Women go to the doctor much more often than men! Maybe they’re smarter or maybe they’re hypochondriacs. They live longer. Who knows? But if it’s insurance, you ought to be able to charge people who use the services more, more.

It’s okay, guys, he said “maybe they’re smarter.” That makes it all better. Listen, dum dum, going to the doctor more often aka pursuing preventative care will make ANYONE’S lifetime cost to the system lower, not higher. But let’s hear what The White Males Of Fox have to say about issues unique to a women aka the high cost of having a vagina. Steve Doocy?

As a number of Republicans have made the argument, why should I pay for — I’m in my 60s, why should I pay for your maternity coverage?

Because as you know women get pregnant all on their own and, thus, should be held 100% financially responsible for the cost of said pregnancy. Absolutely. But is maternity coverage really the issue? The White Males of Fox have had their say. Numbers? How about you?

Even with maternity coverage excluded, nearly a third of plans examined charge 25- and 40-year-old women at least 30% more than men for the same coverage and in some cases, the difference is far greater. For example, one company charged 25-year-old women 85% more than men for the same coverage, again excluding maternity coverage altogether. These differences result in women paying significantly more for health insurance every year than their male counterparts. For example, one plan in South Dakota charges a 40-year-old woman $1252.80 more a year than a 40-year-old man for the same coverage.

So f*ck right off with your condescending “maybe women are hypochondriacs” bullshit, John Stossel. It makes you look douchier than your mustache. And that’s saying a lot.

You can see the full video here over at The Raw Story.



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  • Orleanas

    The worse part of having women pay more for health insurance than men is that women, in general, don't get equal pay as men.

  • TK

    This is an excellent point.

  • e jerry powell

    John Stossel is in need of a serious DP-ear-fucking. Preferably (and appropriately) by bull elephants in musth.

  • Joseph Howe

    So men should pay for maternal care because women can't get pregnant without men? But, if the same woman wanted an abortion the man does not get a say? Or the fact that the judicial system regularly discriminates against men in regards to child support and custody issues? Give me a break! You can't have your cake and eat it too!

  • Jifaner

    We help pay for your prostate problems and vasectomies, so suck it up sunshine. We all help pay for everything for everyone and life is better all around.

  • Joseph Howe

    Men pay more than women for auto insurance. Oh that evil actuarial chart is sexist! Women simply use medical services more and thus should pay more for coverage, this is actuarial science not sexism, I thought the left was supposed to represent facts and science?

  • Ben

    Why would being over 60 have any impact on how much you have to pay for other people? That's fucking moronic.

  • I wonder if Stossel ever regrets his decision to become a professional troll. I wonder if he has trouble sleeping at night thinking about his professional "legacy" and has to drink himself into a stupor (or maybe he has to have prescriptions?) in order to live with the worse-than-useless, destructive, laughingstock media whore he has turned out to be.

    I sincerely hope so.

  • Dominic

    But , he has a permanent place doing 8 mins with Bill OReilly . he must feel on top of the world !

    I'm a litle pissed off at him actually , for this . while u can't mistake his conservatism , he usually shows more common sense than his hosts .

    and he is a decent investigative reporter . Apparently he has lost his professional AND personal ( his brain ) editor ...

  • Willy Wonkanator

    "Maybe she's born with it. Maybe it's hypochondria." - John Stossel

  • DNK1301

    I can understand if I'm incorrect here, and please do point of the error of thinking, but why is it so wrong to charge women more if they do in fact use the services more frequently. Does this not relate to similar instances in the same sense that men have to pay more for car insurance? If documentation proves that younger males are in more accident = they have to pay more, does it not make sense that women use more healthcare = paying more as well. I also may not understand the system fully since I am not from the States.

    Also, the title is pretty misleading as well. You taking a snippet from a quote to make it seem like the key issue, the whole reason I clicked this article was because I thought it was the moronic rambling of this man saying women worry about every little thing and waste our resources. This quote really is not indicative of the issue nor was it any way his focus of discussion. He was not on air saying women are paranoid hypochondriacs and we must charge them more.
    "So f*ck right off with your condescending “maybe women are hypochondriacs”///It makes you look douchier than your mustache. And that’s saying a lot."

    That is a really childish way to close the article. I know this isn't Time magazine but come on..

  • Lemon_Poundcake

    Auto insurance is an interesting comparison. The reverse is true for life insurance: men cost more to insure than woman do (I assume because women tend to be healthier and live longer). But there are more factors involved, of course (general health, family history, job, etc.). And life insurance isn't paying for a service, per se. But still, is it fair that men pay more for life insurance than women, when anyone's number could come up at any time?

  • Bert_McGurt

    Well, men are charged more for car insurance because their resulting higher claims are because they tend to have more accidents. That is not inherent to gender, it's a changeable behaviour. They CAUSE the accidents.

    Women tend to have more doctor's visits in large part because there's a lot of things that can go wrong with their lady parts. More things than tend to go wrong with man parts, in my experience. There are some behavioural changes that can be made (like quitting smoking, par example) that can help to prevent certain cancers, but that still leaves all sorts of polyps and cysts and hysterectomies and blocked tubes and other female-specific health issues that really aren't preventable by behavioural changes and that men don't have to worry about. They don't CAUSE these things to happen.

    And that's not even counting pregnancies, which as foolsage and emmalita have identified are the responsibility of BOTH genders.

  • foolsage

    I don't know how true that is; men have a huge wealth of physical problems that we can avoid or ameliorate, too. I'm unconvinced that preventative medicine costs more for women after we put aside maternity issues. Maybe it does, but I remain skeptical.

    I do think it's possible that women are encouraged and supported in using more preventative measures, but that doesn't mean it costs more to insure women; it means it costs more to insure men, because we're too stupid and/or stubborn to seek those preventative measures.

    I just dunno. It's a very interesting topic though.

  • Bert_McGurt

    I'm only speaking anecdotally here. Maybe my experiences are atypical. And of course up here in the Greet White Noort, we don't have the whole insurance debate to worry about but I still think it's silly for women to be charged higher premiums on account of things they don't necessarily have control over.

    I think you make an interesting point about the costs of medicine once maternity issues are removed from the discussion.

  • Sara_Tonin00

    I think married men should be charged higher insurance rates than single men, as they are more likely to be coerced into actually going to the doctor. :)

    but thanks for your assessment. Right or wrong, I get so annoyed when hearing that "lady parts are just more complicated."

  • foolsage

    Lady parts are only more complicated if you believe the Holy Ghost is in there somewhere causing pregnancy. ;)

    Also, people who visit their physicians more often should have lower rates, not higher. More visits means better prevention, which overall lowers costs considerably. The people who cost the most are the ones who wait until they have emergencies. So us single guys ought to be paying more, arguably.

  • abell

    You know, I think a part of the problem of this conversation is the fact that "health insurance" is no longer insurance, but, more of a cost sharing program. To compare it to auto, home, or life insurance, you only use those in rare, catastrophic circumstances. Health insurance, however, contributes to all the routine upkeep costs as well as the catastrophic costs, which seems to mix the signals pretty badly.

  • Sara_Tonin00

    True. I actually made a similar comment somewhere down (or up) stream in this thread. I honestly wish I knew what the best way to handle all of this was. I feel like it's something similar to Canada or England, but not having experienced those firsthand who can say.

    You know what I do find odd? This is slightly off topic, but it's the way people freak about other people's health choices like smoking or not losing weight when you talk about health insurance pools. As if we complain about the people who drive heavy trucks on our public roads, or send more kids to a public school. Health insurance as a public concern really sends people off into all kinds of bizarre situations.

  • abell

    Frankly, this is one of the reasons I abhor collectivization. It seems to breed a mindset where everyone is watching each other to see if they're using too much of the community pot.

  • Sara_Tonin00

    but see, that's my point - I don't see that when we talk about roads or schools or things that we've already collectivized.

    Now I'm just picturing the Council from Hot Fuzz intoning "the greater good."

  • foolsage

    The "Tragedy of the Commons" is a real issue, though. I do agree that concern over what other people are doing can be taken too far. As is often the case with complicated topics, it's best to seek a happy middle, where people can't just ruin the world for everyone else, but people also remain free to live their own lives inasmuch as possible.

  • foolsage

    All insurance is a cost sharing program though. People tend not to take action to fix things until we have to, so in that regard all these sorts of insurance are similar. Upkeep is always cheaper than waiting until things are falling apart, as well, regardless of the thing being insured.

  • abell

    true. Perhaps, what I'm getting at is it's too many different types of costs? A regular doctor's visit is not a heart surgery and I'm really not sure why we group them together.

  • foolsage

    That's a fair point. I think though that the more complex the system, the more prone it is to corruption/abuse (i.e. the more readily HMOs can exploit loopholes to keep prices high), so there's something to be said for grouping risks and services.

  • abell

    You see, I'm using the same logic to come to a different conclusion. Large, complex systems are prone to corruption/abuse, so, rather than grouping services and giving more control to fewer people, why wouldn't we support the opposite: breaking out those services among a host of smaller companies?

  • foolsage

    Again, fair point. Damned if you do, damned if you don't, I suspect.

  • emmalita

    Women are encouraged to seek medical care more often - yearly pap smears and mamograms. depending on where you are there may or may not be low cost or free options for those yearly exams. On average, women use healthcare more than men because prenatal and post-natal care is highly encouraged. Not all women get pregnant, but zero cis-men get pregnant. So the burden is on us. It's an unfair comparison.

  • abell

    Let's get really off topic.

    Did you have a chance to read Sabriel?

  • Sara_Tonin00

    ah, that's my roommate's favorite author.

  • emmalita

    I am reading it now in fact. Loving it soooooo much. And way more fun than having to explain why 'average straight white man' is an unfair standard.

  • abell

    I have something of a fetish for unique magic systems, and necromancy by bell tones is sure as hell unique. The second book, Lirael has an entirely different set of magics that are also pretty interesting.

  • emmalita

    I'll definitely read the rest of the books.

  • abell

    woooo, books!

    alright, politics helmet back on.

  • foolsage

    My question is: ignoring the preventative measures, and ignoring all maternity-related issues, do women really cost more to insure? I truly do not know; I'm not assuming anything.

    I think the value of preventative care ought to be obvious to anyone who's looked into this even a little: it saves vast sums of money, as well as lives. Likewise, there's no good argument I can see for men to be exempted from covering maternity costs. But beyond that, I simply don't know if there exists an innate and objective cost imbalance between the sexes.

  • emmalita

    I don't know either. The reasoning I hear over and over for why women are charged more is pregnancy and child-bearing. I think it's bullshit myself. I think women are charged more because the average they use is "average man." But I have nothing to back that up either. I'm sure someone has something to back it up, but I don't work in those fields any more.

  • alannaofdoom

    You are bang on about "average" equaling "man" in the collective mind of the medical community. I recommend "The Woman in the Body" by Emily Martin for further reading.

    Hey Stossel, I don't have a prostate so why am I paying for your prostate exams?

  • emmalita

    Thanks. I'll look that up.

  • foolsage

    The maternity argument is bullshit, I absolutely agree.

  • foolsage

    The clearest answer to "why not charge women more" is that men are also a key part of creating pregnancies. No matter how you break that down, men need to be involved in paying for those costs. That's simple fairness.

    Your analogy about young men paying far more for auto insurance isn't unreasonable though. However, it still feels to me that a system like health insurance, which is predominantly run by men and that charges women more, probably has a built-in bias. Misogyny hides in a lot of places. But maybe women do objectively cost more to insure, even after putting aside all maternity-related issues; I simply do not know. I'm not sure I can disagree with your view, that, if women do objectively and fairly cost more to insure, they ought to be charged more. I WANT to disagree (because I'm a feminist), but I'm not sure that I can, if that makes sense.

    It's often hard to get good objective facts. Sigh.

  • Sara_Tonin00

    We can't precisely compare health to auto insurance, because we can't replace our bodies the way we can replace (or opt out of) cars. This is also the argument behind eliminating the right to turn away people with pre-existing conditions. Automobile tune-ups are not covered by insurance. Fixing damaged brakepads are not covered by insurance. Maybe by a service warranty, but that's different. The comparison would be more for catastrophic health insurance coverage - and I'd be surprised to learn that women have higher big ticket issues than men, healthwise.

  • foolsage

    Fair point; bodies aren't cars. I also don't think anyone has proven that women tend to riskier behaviour, which justifies charging them more for insurance. That's certainly been proven for young men relative to cars though. :D

    The one huge expense for women is maternity. Most of us here agree though that we need to treat maternity as a shared expense and not a "female problem". Putting that aside, I share your skepticism about women really costing more. If they do, I do not know of a good reason why they do.

  • DNK1301

    I could not agree more, the facts are very hard to come by and so necessary to build a proper opinion and argument. I definitely agree with the fact men should be involved in paying for maternity costs, there is no reason for them not to. I'm not sure if i made it clear that I don't think women should be charged more based on prenatal and post-natal.

  • foolsage

    I think you were clear on that point, and I agree. Anything relating to maternity in any capacity is a shared social expense, guys. The woman did not build that themselves, so to speak.

  • Sara_Tonin00

    Ah, perhaps I, as a woman, shouldn't be charged more until I actually have a baby, not because I *might* have a baby.

    If you're talking simple doctor's visits though - women pay a co-pay for each visit. Very few people think it's fun to spend time & any money at a doctor's office. They do it because they need to - or they don't even though they DO need to. (see also: DENTIST)

  • dizzylucy

    Where are all the Republican women declaring "I'm a 60 year old woman, why should I pay for your testicular cancer coverage?"

  • IAmParmesan

    To be fair, breast cancer is MUCH more common than testicular cancer, so it costs much more. Not to say that I think women should pay more for health insurance - I'm completely on board with your sentiment.

  • oilybohunk7

    I was curious how prostate cancer compares because I know quite a few people that have had it, it is actually estimated to have more new cases diagnosed in 2013 than breast cancer but a higher survival rate.

  • foolsage

    http://www.cancer.org/acs/grou...

    There are around 235,000 new cases of breast cancer annually in the U.S. right now, with around 40,000 deaths.

    There are around 239,000 new cases of prostate cancer annually in the U.S. right now, with around 30,000 deaths.

    You're right; despite similar incidences and only slightly lower fatalities when compared to breast cancer, prostate cancer gets very little attention. Given that I fight cancer for a living (and thus think about it far too much), I can offer two key observations about why this happens:

    1) Men are ashamed to talk about prostate problems, because those often relate to urination or "performance" problems, and that goes right to the heart of our manhood, so to speak. Plus, checking our prostates is a hell of a lot more invasive than checking breasts for lumps. Bend over and think of England, pal. As a result, we men tend not to want to think about, much less talk about this issue.

    2) Everyone loves breasts. Well, everyone except the roughly 1% of breast cancer sufferers who are men. Those guys are even more embarrassed than the guys with prostate cancer.

  • IAmParmesan

    Wow, I had no idea. I heard the "1 in 8" women statistic for breast cancer and assumed that was more common than the other kinds. My apologies.

  • foolsage

    There's no call for apologies here. :)

    Prostate and breast are the biggest in terms of incidence, while lung cancer is the undisputed champ at killing people. 228,000 new cases of lung cancer in America each year will lead to 159,000 annual deaths, for a roughly 70% mortality rate. Youch. And that is largely preventable, too.

  • oilybohunk7

    My dad was diagnosed with prostate cancer last year, he chose to have it removed. So far all followup tests have come back with a PSA of zero. Thank you for what you do!

  • foolsage

    Best of luck to him! And thanks; I enjoy what I do and am glad to have the chance to do it.

  • oilybohunk7

    Thank you!

  • Sara_Tonin00

    My dad went through that 7 years ago. All's good to date! (he probably qualifies as one of the cases where they no longer recommend surgery, as it was caught extremely early.)

  • oilybohunk7

    I'm glad your dad is doing well! I like to hear stories like that because I've heard more of the less favorable stories.

  • Sara_Tonin00

    He is an extremely active (though he's never been particularly fit) 74. He & my mom just got back from a one-month road trip from PA to New Mexico. Best wishes to your dad.

  • oilybohunk7

    Thank you, and best wishes to yours as well!

  • foolsage

    7 years out, his odds are fantastic. Good for him!

  • Bert_McGurt

    Goddamnit John, stop being so selfish. It's uter-US, not uter-YOU.

  • foolsage

    Wait, wasn't it "uter-US" and "neuter-YOU"?

    When speaking to John, that is.

  • The Kitastrophe

    Dr. D, you should have done a finishing move as well.

  • jon29

    "you ought to be able to charge people who use the services more, more."

    Which is precisely why we men foot the bill for 90% of the criminal justice system, you guys. It's just math.

  • Naye

    But in all seriousness, there should be some sort of rewards program for going to the Dr, i mean the best customers get the best discounts don't they?

  • Archie Leach

    john stossel = rightwing reactionary reSCUMlican vermin.

  • dizzylucy

    "As a number of Republicans have made the argument, why should I pay for —
    I’m in my 60s, why should I pay for your maternity coverage?"

    New rule - only those born from human mothers have to contribute to insurance that helps pay for maternity coverage. That might exclude a few of those guys.

  • BlackRabbit

    According to Dr. Ickes, anyway.

  • ZbornakSyndrome

    I think I'm a hypochondriac because I wear high heeled shoes (they make you dumb, don't ya know).
    Also, perhaps the fact that women live longer, in general, means we're doing the whole healthcare thing right?

  • emmalita

    Also, women are encouraged to get more yearly exams - pap, breast, etc. And judging from the behavior of the men in my family, they call each other whiners for going to the Dr.

    So there's that.

    But, I'm sure it's the high heels and cleavage that makes us use more healthcare services.

  • ZbornakSyndrome

    True, the men in my family only see doctors in the case of spurting blood or broken bones. That could explain it.
    Still, I think it's the heels. It takes too much brain power to focus on balance and whether or not I'm really sick...

  • emmalita

    And the exposed cleavage. Don't forget we lose 60% of our intelligence through exposed cleavage, and 70% the further our heels are from Mother Earth.

  • Remember when, in crisis situations, they used to shout, "Women and children first!"? That wasn't done because we were being nice. That was done because we recognized the inherent value to society as a whole of those who produce the next generation of humans and those who will be that next generation. It wasn't out of just simple kindness. If women live and procreate, the species continues.

    So I'm all in favor of women using medical services more, of getting maternity leave, of taking what is necessary from the system to survive, thrive and exist so that they can make more Americans?

    Or do we want to end up in a society where there's only a few healthy women and they charge through the nose to carry your seed to term? What's the market rate going to be for that?

  • BlackRabbit

    I agree with most of that, except the lifeboat thing. Sorry, I'm getting on the damn boat. I'll let a kid on, but my life has just as much value as someone with different trouser luggage. If society doesn't like that, I don't much care.

  • IAmParmesan

    Point taken, but to be honest, I wouldn't have a problem with less women carrying their "seeds" to term. Overopulation is absolutely rampant, and it's going to destroy humanity if we don't do something soon.

    Not saying that women should pay more or get less care... just that I wish more people would seriously consider the impact they make on the world when they have a bunch of kids. And that includes men.

    My boyfriend and I have personally made the choice not to have children because we realize that every child born in America takes up enough resources to kill off 2 people an in underdeveloped country. We do plan to adopt, though. Meanwhile, I have to sit and listen while people insist that I will change my mind, and that having a baby is the most selfless thing you can do. I think not. Adopting is far more selfless, in my opnion.

    But yes, the women who DO have children ought to have access to great health care.

  • And that's your right as an individual woman. I've met many women who, for many different reason, opt to not have children. (Aside: it is extremely condescending to tell them "oh, you'll change your mind.")

    But as a society, we ought to ensure that the health of women is ensured. Or to steal from Robert Heinlein:

    "All societies are based on rules to protect pregnant women and young children. All else is surplusage, excrescence, adornment, luxury, or folly, which can — and must — be dumped in emergency to preserve this prime function. As racial survival is the only universal morality, no other basic is possible. Attempts to formulate a "perfect society" on any foundation other than "Women and children first!" is not only
    witless, it is automatically genocidal. Nevertheless,starry-eyed idealists (all of them male) have tried endlessly — and no doubt will keep on trying."

  • Nail Polish Color

    ""I wouldn't have a problem with less women carrying their "seeds" to term""
    and I wouldn't have a problem with men using a condom either, but I guess you overlooked that.

  • IAmParmesan

    Just had an argument about this with a man, actually. He argued that the man is less than 50% responsible since the woman has the option of an abortion. I completely disagree with him, as I feel that abortions are a very serious issue. If you stick your dick in someone, you damn well better not go into it thinking that you're off the hook just because abortion is a thing.

  • Sara_Tonin00

    Yeah, this is my thinking too. Though there is the not-fair aspect that the reverse isn't true - a guy can't stop a woman from having an abortion.

  • foolsage

    I wish that were true, but in a lot of places in the world, a man absolutely CAN stop a woman from having an abortion.

  • Sara_Tonin00

    true, I was thinking of U.S.

  • foolsage

    A minor often needs parental permission for an abortion, in the U.S.; that means Daddy can often say no. Thankfully the whole "husband's right to choose" nonsense is quickly disappearing around the world, but that remains in some places, too.

  • In an ideal scenario, sex education (and not just the biological aspects, but the socioeconomic, psychological, mental aspects too) would work to help educate young men and women. Sex and procreation are some of the most basic aspects of life and yet so many think little and less of it.

    And btw, my point wasn't just to speak of healthcare for mothers or those who choose to be mothers. Access to healthcare for women is something that we should fight to ensure exists.

  • foolsage

    Doesn't that have the same net impact, from the point of view of this discussion? That is to say, if men use condoms more often, that results in fewer women giving birth.

    Still, point taken; procreation involves men, so pregnancy planning needs to involve them as well.

  • Sara_Tonin00

    to offer a counterpoint: medical birth control is an ongoing cost assigned to a specific woman, and only to a woman. There is no equivalent medical expense for men which would be covered by insurance. (only snip & done)

  • foolsage

    Oh, I agree. There are multiple innately unfair practices at work in how our society deals with maternity.

    Amusingly, the closest comparable male expense would be for viagra and the like. That says something about how men have historically viewed this topic: "I'll have my insurance pay for my ability to have sex, and you have your insurance pay to have kids." Sigh.

  • kirbyjay

    Viagra makes me laugh. Many ( many, many) women have spent a lifetime with unsatisfactory sex and are just called frigid, but God forbid men don't have that orgasm until they're 90.

  • IAmParmesan

    Haha, of course I get downvotes. I forgot this is Pajiba, where no one can have an opinion even slightly different from the crowd. I really used to love this site, but I find myself coming here less and less often as of late.

  • Sara_Tonin00

    I think the downvotes were maybe because you preachily veered off topic.

  • IAmParmesan

    Yeah, I was afraid of that. I apologize if I seemed preachy. But I do still think that plenty of people on here get downvoted who don't deserve it.

  • Sara_Tonin00

    I personally am always surprised when anyone cares about the downvotes.

  • foolsage

    Ignore the downvotes. Don't assume they represent the view of the average reader here; they do not.

    I think you present a reasonable point of view. I agree from a big picture perspective that far too few people give any consideration to overpopulation and what that means for the future of humanity (and our planet as a whole).

    But, on the other hand, consider the moral of Idiocracy: the very people smart enough to be worried about overpopulation (and similar issues) are perhaps the people who ought to be procreating. ;)

    OK downvote patrol, bring it on. I just called you guys out, after all. We can't leave that unpunished! I'll downvote myself to get you all started.

  • Nail Polish Color

    It must be hard to be so negative all the time. Maybe people just disagree with you cause they do and that's why they created downvoting? How do you know they don't represent the view of the average reader? I disagree and I've been reading this site for years.
    There's seriously no need to be so bitter.

  • IAmParmesan

    ? I don't see how foolsage was being negative or bitter... Downvoting is a right for everyone. I just have personally found that on here, the posts that offer a different point of view from the majority of Pajiba writers are the only ones downvoted, while all other posts are upvoted in one great big circle jerk.

  • Ben

    The up vote/ down vote system is designed for people to show their agreement/disagreement with a post without resorting to just "Yeah!" or "No!" posts, so if you post something that the majority of the readers disagree with, then you're obviously going to have more people disagreeing with you, and thus get more down votes.

    That's like, the entire basis of the system?

  • foolsage

    Say what? I'm not feeling bitter at all. I think you misread my post and made some unwarranted assumptions.

    And no, I'm pretty sure that downvoting wasn't created specifically so people could comment on my posts. It's nice that you think so much of me, but come on now. :D

  • foolsage

    Damn it, my downvote keeps disappearing. I'll keep reapplying it. That'll teach me not to disparage downvotes!

  • foolsage

    Is it not possible to downvote oneself on Disqus? Every time I reload this page, my downvote above is gone, and each time I reapply it to scold myself. :D

  • Sara_Tonin00

    It's illegal to charge women more than men for any service in NY, from haircuts to health insurance.

    Aside from people not seeming to understand how insurance works, I wish I couldn't believe that a 60 year old man would complain about having to pay towards maternity care, when his Lipitor & Viagra are right around the medical corner.

  • easttexas

    Right above the this comments section it reads, "Leave a Comment, But Don't Be a Douche Or We Will Happily Ban You". That seems ironic since the author of the article dedicates a lot of time in the article to calling Stossel a douche and making fun of his mustache, in a very douchey way IMO. How does the author figure that going to the doctor more over your lifetime makes your cost to the system lower? I agree with Stossel by the way.

  • Dumily

    Oh, and the author figures that going to the doctor more over your lifetime makes your cost to the system lower because of fucking facts and whatnot.

    http://www.nejm.org/doi/pdf/10...

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