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Aging In Film: When Your Character Looks Like Country-Fried Gollum You've Gone Too Far

By Joanna Robinson | Posted Under Miscellaneous | Comments (42)



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One of my favorite directors, Richard Linklater, is working on a fascinating project called Boyhood. Long preoccupied by unusual storytelling (the rotoscoping of Waking Life and A Scanner Darkly, the delicately interlaced twin narratives of Before Sunrise and Before Sunset), Linklater is taking an intriguing look at the passage of time and how it’s captured in film. /Film reports:

Linklater began shooting Boyhood (formerly called Growing Up) back in 2002, following one young actor (Ellar Salmon) as he ages naturally from first grade to the start of college. Linklater recently reported that he has three more years of shooting left to go, which, yup, sounds about right — a six-year-old in 2002 would be eighteen in 2014. Ethan Hawke and Patricia Arquette also star Salmon’s parents. Boyhood tells the story of a divorced couple (Hawke and Arquette) as they raise their child (Salmon). Linklater’s been shooting the project little by little, filming Salmon for short periods each summer, and in an interview with The Playlist, Linklater stated that he has “three years left on it.”

I am excessively excited by this project for several reasons. Firstly, Linklater has an impressive de-douchefying effect on Ethan Hawke. Secondly, I am fascinated by the problem of how to convincingly show the passage of time on film. There are, currently, two (and a half) options. The first, of course, is the classic “aging makeup” which is slowly being replaced with a makeup/CGI combo. While some aging makeup can be convincing it is, more often than not, a distraction. (Chronicled rather hilariously in this AV Club video.) The makeup/CGI age-fest that was The Curious Case of Benjamin Button detracted from the fine performances of Pitt, Blanchett and Swinton. (Well, no, not Swinton, nothing can detract from that.)

The other option, one that works for both the passage of time in a single movie and over a series, is to cast two actors to play the same role. When this works, it really works. When it doesn’t you get the charismatic Hal Holbrooks playing an older version of the deadly dull Robert Pattinson (Water For Elephants) and the entire casting disaster that was Now And Then. (Christina Ricci grows up to be Rosie O’Donnell? I think not.) Pajiba reader penelope emailed me awhile back with her favorite pairings. Here’s a blended list of hers and mine. Holler if we missed one.

Flora Guiet/Audrey Tautou as Amélie Poulain—Amélie: It’s not just the haircut. I love that little girl.
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Elle Fanning/Cate Blanchett as Daisy—The Curious Case of Benjamin Button: See…this is what happens when you don’t mess about with CGI.
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Robert De Niro/Marlon Brando as Don Vito Corleone—The Godfather Series: The only Oscar-winning pair on the list. Powerhouse performances.
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Geena Davis/Lynn Cartwright as Dottie Hinson—A League of Their Own: This one is a personal favorite. They dubbed in Davis’s voice for Cartwright’s scenes, but the resemblance is uncanny.
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Mary Stuart Masterson/Jessica Tandy as Idgie “Ninny” Threadgoode—Fried Green Tomatoes: Just disgustingly delightful, these two.
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River Phoenix/Harrison Ford as Henry Jones Jr.—The Indiana Jones Series: Remember how River Phoenix was great in that last Indiana Jones film they ever made? The third one? Yeah he was great in that.
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Christa B. Allen/Jennifer Garner as Jenna Rink—13 Going On 30: They (Hollywood?!) loved Allen so much they brought her back to play the younger version of Garner in Ghosts of Girlfriends Past.
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Benjamin Walker/Liam Neeson as Alfred Kinsey—Kinsey: This is penelope’s favorite. Can’t say I blame her. That nose!
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Ewan McGregor/Alec Guinness as Obi-Wan Kenobi—The Star Wars Abominations: Say what you will about the prequels (and you can say them loudly and often), McGregor was a great match for Guinness.
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Caitlin Blackwood/Karen Gillan as Amelia Pond—“Doctor Who”: This is cheating, of course, because it’s television, but I love that they used Gillan’s young cousin. Brilliant.
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Comments

I just watched Kinsey recently, and kept saying "Holy crap, where'd they get that kid?!" Amazing resemblance. Excellent list.

Posted by: Samantha at June 22, 2011 4:51 PM

Love this list! I always thought that for A League of their Own they had just put a wig on Geena Davis. The resemblance is pretty amazing.

A really bad choice that comes to mind is from Batman Begins, where the kid who plays a young Bruce Wayne looks nothing at all like Christian Bale. Though maybe that's because we've all seen a young Bale in films. But I still think it was a pretty big disconnect.

Posted by: Figgy at June 22, 2011 4:52 PM

Remember how River Phoenix was great in that last Indiana Jones film they ever made? The third one? Yeah he was great in that.

Aren't you forgetting a little movie by the name of...

*smote into oblivion by lightning sent down by the movie gods*

Posted by: DarthCorleone at June 22, 2011 4:55 PM

"A really bad choice that comes to mind is from Batman Begins, where the kid who plays a young Bruce Wayne looks nothing at all like Christian Bale."

Agreed. Mostly because, to me, he looked exactly like a young Kurt Russell. Exactly.

Posted by: Rob at June 22, 2011 5:07 PM

One movie that has both good double-casting and bad double-casting is Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang. Harry Lockhart at 9 was played by Indio Falconer Downey, who shares 50% of his DNA with RDJ. It was a good casting choice. Harry Lockhart in high school was played by (looking up...) Richard Allen Brown, who... well, the coloring's relatively similar, I guess, but it fails partially because of the Bale Effect and partially because Brown's eyes are too small.

He would make a good university-aged Jim Moriarty on Sherlock, though.

Posted by: Maureen at June 22, 2011 5:09 PM

To be fair, though, Obi-Wan and Don Vito were aged backwards across the course of multiple films, whereas all the other cases are characters played by different actors in the same films. Different casting process, really.

Posted by: Jerry at June 22, 2011 5:09 PM

Geena Davis/Lynn Cartwright as Dottie Hinson.

No way the human being Lynn Cartwright exists. She is fake and that is Geena Davis in old-people make-up. I do not believe a word of your awful lies.

Oh and how about a little love for Marty McFly's mom and dad. I swear, when I was eight, that shit blew my mind.

Posted by: superasente at June 22, 2011 5:12 PM

jessica tandy and mary stuart masterson did not both play idgie threadgoode. Jessica tandy played ninny threadgoode. two very different people

otherwise this list is awesome. carry on

Posted by: mandatron at June 22, 2011 5:19 PM

I thought for the longest time that Lynn Cartwright WAS Geena Davis, with makeup.

I would add Jim Broadbent and Hugh Bonneville in Iris. Obviously Winslet and Dench are powerhouses, but they're so distinctive on their own I never really felt like they were the same person. Broadbent and Bonneville were eerie they were so similar.

Posted by: Todd at June 22, 2011 5:24 PM

Yessss, I always think of Hugh Bonneville as a young Jim Broadbent. I can't see him now without thinking that. And, mandatron, I suggest you go back and watch the film. It might be different in the book but in the movie it's obvious they're meant to be the same person.

Posted by: I Need More Allowance at June 22, 2011 5:26 PM

I mean its also cheating kind of but I think the Ralph Fiennes and then his young nephew as the younger voldermort (tom riddle) is so spot on and that child actor is so creepy. It's perfect!

Posted by: hoover19 at June 22, 2011 5:34 PM

That's not Geena Davis--it's Andy Serkis!

Posted by: Jay at June 22, 2011 5:45 PM

I thought Morgan Turner (young Veda) and Evan Rachel Wood (grown Veda) in HBO's Mildred Pierce were great.

Not the best pics, but you get the idea.

http://www.hbo.com/mildred-pierce/cast-and-crew/young-veda-pierce/index.html

http://www.hbo.com/mildred-pierce/cast-and-crew/young-veda-pierce/index.html#/mildred-pierce/cast-and-crew/veda-pierce/index.html

Posted by: Cindy at June 22, 2011 5:51 PM

Yes! While I can't get behind the Ewan McGregor/Albert Finney pairing in Big Fish (McGregor's accent kills it for me) the Alison Lohman/Jessica Lange duo is a good call.

Posted by: coveredinbees at June 22, 2011 5:57 PM

Well-done, Joanna! I salute you.

And Jim Broadbent is one of those human beings that I just can't imagine ever was young. Like in my mind, he has spent his entire 60-or-so years of life as a 60-or-so year old man. The idea of him young blows my mind.

I must see this movie!

Posted by: penelope at June 22, 2011 5:58 PM

Goodfellas. The kid that played the younger Ray Liotta was a dead-on match. Especially the eyes.

Posted by: Paultera at June 22, 2011 6:00 PM

The kid who played a young Matt Damon in The Departed! They look a lot alike.

Posted by: kayla at June 22, 2011 6:09 PM

Holy crap, that wasn't Geena? That's astonishingly well matched. I had no idea it wasn't just makeup.

Posted by: foolsage at June 22, 2011 6:14 PM

Joanna: I love all three Indiana Jones movies, and all three Star Wars movies, and all three X-men movies!

Posted by: Melody Be at June 22, 2011 6:15 PM

I need more allowance
They're not the same character in the book OR the film. As evidenced by the different names. Idgie . . . Ninny. Also, Jessica Tandy's character, Ninny, was talking about Idgie and Ruth in the third person. That's not dementia, that's being someone else entirely.

*Don't mess with me and Fried Green Tomatoes. I may not like the movie half as much as the book, but I still know what's happening.*

Posted by: MyySharona at June 22, 2011 6:18 PM

One of my favorite directors, Richard Linklater
I see what you did there...

They dubbed in Davis’s voice for Cartwright’s scenes, but the resemblance is uncanny.
So THAT's why I used to think old and young Dottie were played by the same person.

Posted by: Socrates_Johnson at June 22, 2011 6:22 PM

Wow, add me to the list of people who thought that was Geena Davis in makeup. Impressive.

Posted by: MelBivDevoe at June 22, 2011 6:43 PM

I'm certainly not going to argue with you, MySharona, when it comes to the book. It's been way too long since I read it. I'll add it to the reread pile. But, I will argue that in the film, they heavily (with, like, an anvil), imply that Idgie and Ninny are one and the same. The end scene where "Ninny" places the honey on Ruth's grave, bee charming just like Idgie used to, and then twinkles at Kathy Bates when she asks if Idgie's still alive? Gives her a coy, "yes we might see her around her somewhere"? I think the intention in the film is to imply that Ninny is Idgie and the whole third person storytelling was a ruse. So, if not obvious, heavily implied. Fair?

Posted by: I Need More Allowance at June 22, 2011 6:52 PM

No no no not fair. At no point do they imply that in the movie. And "Ninny" doesn't place it on the grave, Idgie does. The movie doesn't imply anything. I agree it made a HUGE break from the book, but not that far.

Not swaying me, never ever.

Posted by: MyySharona at June 22, 2011 6:54 PM

in regards to i need more alloweance yes there is speculation among some that there is a subtle hint that idgie and ninny are the same person because of that.

however i am with myysharona in that it really doesn't make sense that they could be. idgie and ruth raised stump together while ninny talks about her son, and only son, albert who was mentally handicapped

Posted by: mandatron at June 22, 2011 6:59 PM

and disregard the typo in allowance please

Posted by: mandatron at June 22, 2011 7:01 PM

See I always (possibly erroneously) thought that the life Ninny described (with Cleo and Albert) was the life she has AFTER Ruth passed. I don't like it either, to be honest, because it moves further and further from the Sapphic themes in the book. But I still (stubbornly) say the the intention of the FILM is that they are the same person.

MySharona's totally right about the honey, though.

Posted by: I Need More Allowance at June 22, 2011 7:03 PM

No, because Ninny marries Idgie's brother, Cleo. I'm not just going off the book here. ALSO, I could have sworn that in the movie that young Idgie referred to Ninny.
ALSO, they totally showed a younger Cleo and it was clear he was Idgie's brother AND old Ninny said something at some point about marrying Cleo.

So there.

Posted by: MyySharona at June 22, 2011 7:10 PM

David Kross as a young Ralph Fiennes in "The Reader" just annoyed the hell outta me. They look nothing alike, and, as spot-on as Kross' performance was, I just kept thinking through the whole movie, "This is the best actor lookalike that they could come up with?"

Posted by: Stinky at June 22, 2011 7:21 PM

and disregard the typo in allowance please

I intend to disregard the entire comment because of it's total lack of punctuation in general.

So, take that.

Posted by: Grammar Nazi at June 22, 2011 7:59 PM

Posted by: Grammar Nazi

Smartass.

Posted by: Jay at June 22, 2011 9:22 PM

I intend to disregard the entire comment because of it's total lack of punctuation in general.

So, take that.

Posted by: Grammar Nazi at June 22, 2011 7:59 PM

If you're going to be a Grammar Nazi and attack people, you might want to spell "its" correctly.

Posted by: Uriah Creep at June 22, 2011 11:29 PM

Am I the only one who refers to Fried Green Tomatoes as Soylent Green Tomatoes in their head?

Posted by: Even Stevens at June 23, 2011 12:51 AM

holy hell, I thought old Dottie in a leauge of there own was Davis in old lady make up. That's crazy.

Posted by: Ben at June 23, 2011 2:20 AM

I just re-watched Fried Green Tomatoes because I didn't remember any part of this discussion. It's clear that the film wants the viewer to believe that Idgie and Ninny are the same person. The viewer can only know what Ninny chooses to share and how she chooses to tell her story. The flashbacks cannot be considered "true." Either Ninny is lying about her connection to the Threadgoode family (if she's in fact Idgie), or she's lying in that she omits herself from all the scenes she would appear to have first-hand knowledge of (as Ninny never appears in flashback.) I don't think there's any further "proof" than that. Evelyn arrives to find honey on Ruth's grave. Who put it there and when is not known.

Posted by: The Wandering Parakeet at June 23, 2011 3:54 AM

Coveredinbees, the first thing I thought when I saw this list was the Alison Lohman/Jessica Lange combo. Good call.

Posted by: Munkymack at June 23, 2011 4:07 AM

And why does Liam Neeson want to attack me in that picture?

Posted by: Uriah Creep at June 23, 2011 5:43 AM

Oh! You couldnt have forgotten our very own Mila Kunis in for a little Angelina Jolie in "Gia".. It worked! It really did!

Posted by: SessyPants! at June 23, 2011 6:17 AM

You opened the window for TV, so...

Young Ned/ Present Ned on Pushing Daisies.

Field Cate/Lee Pace

Posted by: PP Matter at June 23, 2011 7:16 AM

Michael Caine/Raymond Coulthard as old and young Scrooge in The Muppet Christmas Carol.

Posted by: Mrs. Julien at June 23, 2011 10:47 AM

"I just re-watched Fried Green Tomatoes because I didn't remember any part of this discussion. It's clear that the film wants the viewer to believe that Idgie and Ninny are the same person. The viewer can only know what Ninny chooses to share and how she chooses to tell her story."

Absolutely. I don't see any point to that scene, otherwise.

That said, the little girl who plays the young Mary Stuart Masterson was a good choice. I'm realizing, and perhaps it's the Courage, NH trailer that put me in this state of mind, that Masterson's hair is totally anachronistic in that picture. Sigh. Research, people, research!

Posted by: samantha t at June 24, 2011 10:12 AM

WOAH you mean that WASN'T Geena Davis in make-up in A League of Her Own? My ten year old mind was just blown. Thanks.

Posted by: grace b at June 25, 2011 11:02 PM