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Jesus, he's terrible. I'm glad that there's backlash against him, but it doesn't seem like enough. And it's really sick when there was apparently a Twitter trend of girls saying that Chris Brown could beat them anytime ;). Like really? That's pretty sick.

If AIDS were to be reshaped into human form, it would look exactly like that sweaty picture of Chris Brown.

I think Dustin's "The Woman" review applies from here on out to every project Brown aligns himself with. Whether I bother to see it or hear it or not.

Does that make me an asshole? Well, I suppose it's catching then.

Todd Gilchrist just did a similar piece for the Hollywood Reporter: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/earshot/chris-brown-rihanna-assault-grammys-291560

His is great but sadly missing the brilliant moniker cunting fuck puppet.

Thank you for your restraint in this matter, x.

If Rihanna does manage to get herself pummeled again....or worse, are we supposed to feel sorry for her? Seriously, I've lost track. I could have sympathy for someone who never got hit by their boyfriend before or were ignorant of their violent history. But after this shitstorm if she or any other woman who comes after her feels the sting of his blows on her face, I'm not sure how much sympathy they've earned. It's like trying to feel sorry for someone who still insists on playing with an ill-tempered dog knowing that it regularly bites. If she's too foolish to recognize acts of self-preservation she's about as hopeless as the piece of garbage in question.

Clearly the little monster hasn't gotten control of his widdle temper, had seemingly no guilt for what he's done and even now he doesn't get why people have so much hatred for him. He will lash out again, if he hasn't already done so. His dressing room tantrum on Good Morning America is a clear indicator of that. Either he'll be more strategic with his hitting, or more likely be more involved in covering up the mess afterward. I'm guessing someday someone is going to go missing for a while and someone else may someday either go to jail either for the initial abuse or the retaliation.

Interesting that if you take away the money and the record contracts you just have an episode of COPS.

He's pulling the full Greg Stillson with that puppy.

Put the puppy down, dude. We all just need a clear shot.

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

I hate this asshat, and I'm so glad more people do, too. It seemed like everyone just went all "forgive and forget".

I hope the human embodiment of AIDS ear rapes a new ultra-strain of AIDS (AAIIDDEESS? SUAIDS? Or just a classic ULTRA-AIDS?) into him that is somehow worse than regular AIDS. And lasts longer.

"Rihanna's people have said on a constant basis to her and she seems to understand that any type of video or picture of them together and happy would be very bad for her image."

Right, bad for her image. Not for her, you know, health or safety or anything. Way to go, "Rihanna's people."

....and bleujayone comes in first in the victim blaming contest. Congrats! I assume your next comment will tell those slutty girls to stop asking for rape?

Oh, shite! It only posted my first line. I meant since he performed twice and a Whitney Houston tribute was shoehorned in. Instead of bumping one of the brown performances they bumped the Clarence Clemons tribute!

John G. you ignorant slut,

I am not blaming the victim here. I am not saying that what happened before was her fault. I am however saying that it's going to be very hard to feel sorry for anything she gets from here on out. She had a restraining order, she had the law on her side, and she had victim's advocates offering help in various forms to get her the aid she deserved. She has turned down the help, gotten the retraining order revoked and has decided to shack back up with someone she is well aware has the capacity to harm her. The man is a worthless punk who should be in imprisoned and yet she still is willing to enter the proverbial lion's den.

So tell me, at what point is she responsible for knowingly putting herself in harm's way? A victim is someone who gets harmed when they didn't ask for it. She is now at this point all but inviting a relapse.

I've always hated this motherfucker. He's got perpetual stupid dickhead face, and he's a no talent woman beater. Fucker.

Some might see a woman cheering an African-American man being "kept down" as a tad racist.

Yes, without context, that could be true. Except that with context (aka reading the damn article), and an iota of intelligence and common sense, one would realize that is not the case (and in fact never even think it), and also realize that you're just making a pathetic and boring attempt at trolling.

Oh IronShartOklahoma, you're back! I'm so very glad chronically fatigued by this news!

An Open Letter to Courtney Enlow

Dear Courtney,

I was touched by the Column you wrote concerning the passing of Whitney Houston. Your insights into addiction were very interesting. The fact that your husband was himself an addict and overcame his addiction with your help shows me what type of person you are. But I’m a little confused about something. When did your shit cease to smell like shit? In other words, where do you get the balls to speak about Chris Brown like he’s the world’s worst person? I’m not excusing his behavior, and he has paid his dues as far as the law is concerned. As a matter of fact, the judge in his case has said that Mr. Brown is a model citizen, so much so that the judge reduced his probation status. Now as far as what he wrote on twitter, there are haters out there that want nothing more than for him to go away. Just like your husband Courtney, Chris has paid his debt to society and he’s trying to make amends, I’m sure you of all people can understand that.

Thread of the week. Here it comes.

My potshot at the sewer troll aside, I'm ready for this. Got my beanbag chair, my Corona, some Mike&Ikes, and my opera glasses. Let's do this.

Interestingly, getting 'outed' as an abuser only led to his shedding the sensitive R&B image and leaping fully into being hardcore.

You know he has a bunch of tattoos now, right? Because now he's a badass.

I take comfort in knowing that JayZ is team Fuck-Chris-Brown. He is a major player in the industry and I hope it has an impact.

I was going to say have a cup of SHUT THE #$%^ UP!

but dick ebola is better.

Ugh, really, Pookie?

Posted by: Sassafrass Green at February 16, 2012 3:44 PM
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Yes Sassafrass, really, I just don’t get all the anger and wishing death on the guy. I understand it, but to wish death on the guy, some people here act as though this guy is the second coming of Hitler (I shouldn’t have said Hitler, now I’ll be accused of being unsympathetic to the plight of the Jews). You had one asshole here wishing that the guy catches AIDS and dies slowly. The guy said something on twitter that many people disagree with, and because of what he said people should hope he dies? Really Sassafrass?

The comment section was coming along nicely until Pookie showed up and killed it with stupidity.

Posted by: the EPA at February 16, 2012 3:55 PM
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Sorry about that EPA, but for some strange reason when civilized people wish death on other people it kinda bums me out.

p.s. Fuck you.

Oh, Pookie, you're right! We only hate him because he said dumb things on Twitter. Not because he beat the hell out of a woman and then acted like a petulant child when he was given a super-light punishment which was far less than what he deserved. It could never be that the tweets are a small part of a much larger awful whole. You're right. We hate him for his Twitter alone, not his violence, his spoiled behavior, and total lack of remorse. Gosh, where did we ever go wrong? I'm so glad you're here to light the way for us.

Pookie, I can't speak for everyone, but a lot of people who have written about Chris Brown and their disgust with the Grammy's treatment of him this year is because many feel that he hasn't shown adequate remorse. Mostly he just keeps pissily defending himself, lashing out at critics of his behavior, and not making an effort to bring awareness to domestic violence as a result of all the media attention he's gotten. Were he to convince us that he was sufficiently regretful of his violence, I think more people would be able to forgive and tolerate his public success. Just my two cents.

Hmm. Pookie. I think I see where you're coming from.

I'll admit that all this needs toning down and a bit of perspective (I can't really provide one myself -not a fan of Brown or Rhianna, both barely register in my zeitgeist) but I don't think a direct parallel between Courtney's Manfriend's story and Mr Brown's story is justified. I do feel that this article took a tiny layer polish off the Whitney piece. Jarringly acerbic, readable enough, but not quite verging on the hypocritical, yet.

I think, given the nature of the published piece, personal attacks/comparisons are not off the table, though.

Round 2: fight?

Pookie, I worry about your future. You are so stunningly naive about the real attributes of abusive men (and maybe abusive women, too) that you are talking out of your ass like so much watery diarrhea. Do not for one minute think that Chris Brown's rehabilitation is more than image repair on the part of his publicist and probably his record label too.

I want to assume you are young and haven't yet seen enough of life. Or perhaps that you grew up in a home where issues were settled lovingly, with words, not violence. But judging by your tone, it is far more likely that you share Rihanna's experience in abusive relationships, and you want to believe that the beast has been tamed.

Take it from me. Please. I treat people who sound just like you for a living. Mostly women, some now dead at the hands of a "rehabilitated" man. That maniac is still a maniac. And time will prove me and other posters here right.

I hope you don't have to wake up in the hospital or, worse, in the hereafter to learn this.

Pookie-

Is this a model citizen?

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/rapper_chris_brown_freaks_out_after_r6BDLMvzaid4O8ZYNvqkEI

Yep, really looks like he got better.

Make him be on "Dancing With The Stars".
Send a MESSAGE.

I'm sick to death of this whole story, but to those of you touting Rihannas resources and saying how she should know beTter please understand that domestic violence is not just physicalthe abuser dominates all aspects of the victims life and thiscludes psychologically. Strong women, smarty women, doctors, lawyers, cops...it takes the average victim 7 times of leaving an abuser before they make a final break. Just because you're a celebrity with "people" doesn't protect you from the ravages of domestic violence. I am saddened by the whole situation, but I hope this will shed some light on a problem that affects all women, their children, and men too. Until we express zero tolerance for this kind of behavior it will continue.

I continue to be the devil's advocate here, but perhaps Chris Brown is reacting in a pissy, whiny way because he feels that it is settled between him and Rhianna (even if it's not really- he probably needs at least several months, if not years of counseling) but people keep bringing it up.

It is as if, you beat your girlfriend. You apologized to her, you did your penance (whatever it was)and tried, years later, to go on with your life. The only thing is, people refuse to forget, and everyone in town taunts you and lets you know that they wish you would die. For many people, this would make one LESS contrite than if they had been left alone to sort out their demons. Maybe he is really sorry for what he did (I guess we will never know) but is frustrated at others for not letting him move on with life.

He is a young guy and he probably doesn't know how to handle the situation- although he should probably figure it out, fast. And Rihanna is young too- a lot of people say she deserves a beating if she goes back, but no one knows the psychology of a battered woman's mind.

*SIDENOTE: I don't buy celebrity apologies, no matter how tearful. Their publicists whip them up and they just spew them. I always think: nooo you meant what you said/did. You just want us to continue watching your movies and buying your songs.

DISCLAIMER: I'm not really a Chris Brown fan- I own like maybe three of his songs and nothing that's new. I just want to analyze the situation.

Pookie eats dicks.

Seriously? We're having a conversation about abuse and you use a slur on homosexuals to insult him like a school yard bully? You've heard of pots and kettles, right?

I think they both deserve our sympathy, if not downright pity. I see two children playacting at being adults without benefit of any healthy relationships on which to base theirs. The very fact that Chris Brown is unable to take responsibility for his actions and cannot understand what he did wrong is an indicator that he is damaged in a way that will most likely lead to his arrest/early death/unfulfilled life. Both of them have been thrust into the limelight at an early age and told that they are special and their "talents" are such that they are responsible to no one but themselves. These kids probably recognize the damage in each other and respond to it in a hope that their own damage can be fixed by the other. The fact that they can't see the additional damage they are bringing upon themselves should make even the most jaded of us weep.

I don't excuse or condone their behavior, but they certainly didn't get there alone. I am just jaded enough to think that it's too late for both of them and can only cry at the thought that 10, 20 months/years down the road, we'll be reading about their untimely deaths as well. There's no joy to be had here at all.

Pookie, I just read your newest post. Having read quite a few of your past comments, I've wondered if you'd had a hard time becoming the person you are. The only people I've known to be so committed to rocking the boat are people who have come through a hell of a lot and have dealt with pain that only few of us have ever really experienced. I celebrate with you and your siblings that you've come through this experience with survivable scars. I think I read that you have a young child and a wife and I am especially glad that somewhere along the road you found or were helped to find your own worth. Sometimes I get mad at you, because you have something worth saying, but you say it in such a way that you deliberately piss people off and they're too busy calling you an a**hole to get the point that you're making. I don't excuse your deliberate attempts at being a jerk, but I do now understand a little bit where it comes from. I'm just glad that you're around to piss us all off at all.

Pookie, I just read your newest post. Having read quite a few of your past comments, I've wondered if you'd had a hard time becoming the person you are. The only people I've known to be so committed to rocking the boat are people who have come through a hell of a lot and have dealt with pain that only few of us have ever really experienced. I celebrate with you and your siblings that you've come through this experience with survivable scars. I think I read that you have a young child and a wife and I am especially glad that somewhere along the road you found or were helped to find your own worth. Sometimes I get mad at you, because you have something worth saying, but you say it in such a way that you deliberately piss people off and they're too busy calling you an a**hole to get the point that you're making. I don't excuse your deliberate attempts at being a jerk, but I do now understand a little bit where it comes from. I'm just glad that you're around to piss us all off at all.

Posted by: princessbetty at February 16, 2012 5:56 PM
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Thanks Princessbetty, I wasn’t really looking for someone to help me find my, I was basically looking to get laid. I fell in love and then we got married, but yeah ok she helped me.

I could possibly have forgiven Chris Brown for almost beating another human being to death if he showed any remorse ever for his actions. Every single time he was given that chance, he acted like an asshole. He blamed Rihanna. He blamed the haters. He blamed the people interviewing him. He blamed Twitter. He blamed everyone except for himself. None of those people left a woman for dead in a car. Only he did.

Accept responsibility, act like you learned something, and move forward like a decent human being. Chris Brown has refused to do any of that. He refuses to accept that maybe he crossed the line and might have, you know, not acted like an asshole whenever anyone asked him about the attack. You, as an artist, do not get to define the dialogue about you. The only way you define that dialogue is to, you know, not almost beat a woman to death with your hands and run away. Barring that, you show remorse and discourage your fans from joking about domestic abuse. Barring that, you don't destroy a studio or blast off against the world on Twitter because your attitude about almost beating a woman to death with your hands and refusing to show any remorse for your criminal actions doesn't make you popular.

....but Robert, where's your disdain for Fassbender? Surely you aren't going to give him a free pass, not after he broke his girlfriend's nose are you?

Thanks Jenna, I just googled Michael Fassbender and what do you know. He beat up his girlfriend and broke her nose, well well well, ain’t that something. So now we can all get together and pledge to not spend another dime on Fassbender, we can wish something terrible happen to him, Courtney can write an open letter to Fassbender and call him “Princess Ladybeater.” my question to Courtney is did she know that Fassbender was a "Princess Ladybeater," and when did she know it? Because if she knew it before she wrote about Chris Brown, awww shit!

Posted by: Pookie at February 16, 2012 6:13 PM

It's easier to overlook someone being a shitty human being when they're actually good at something. If Chris Brown never beat anyone and donated his profits to the widows of Seal Team 6, he'd still be one of the worst pop acts today. "I Can Transform Ya" was the worst mainstream single of the decade even ignoring the woman beating, Chris Brown being a scumfuck made the song go from bad to carcinogenic.

Pookie, I was going to throw some more love your way, but this damn thing won't let me. I think my Pookie love broke Pajiba. See? See where a random act of kindness gets a person?

How does Pookie get you guys to react exactly the way he wants you to every time?

Well he's right...I didn't know that about Fassbender and I was a fan of his. Now I think entirely different of him, after Googling the incident with his girlfriend. I probably made several Fassssbender.... comments on this site. I retract them all. Maybe he has changed and maybe he is sorry too, but the fact that he is a good actor does not garner him a free pass.

Sorry. No. Not for me. I don't think it has ANYthing to do with how talented you are. It has EVERYthing to do with contrition and sincerity and a certain amount of humility and dignity. I know nothing about Fassbender and had a very neutral opinion of him, but now...ew. I have no idea if he was/is contrite or what. If I were more interested in him I'd check it out. BUT...Brown has been nothing but a total asshole about the whole thing. And he has a publicist! These people are morons.

I think I read some interview with Marky Mark where he talked about being horrified at the heinous violence in his past. I guess that's a start. Michael Vick? I don't follow sports but he SEEMS to be making attempts to mend. Courtney's husband was honest and took responsibility for his actions (and was frank and very compelling, btw). Brown is a mess. He's a pussy and he's a mess.

Damn klingonfree, you were right there. You almost broke free of your diseased thinking, but you couldn't get over that last hurdle.

Can we all agree that pookie is a troll, the comments about his wife proves that, even if he was joking. Chris Brown has repeatedly shown about that he has no remorse (as shown on his GMA interview) proves this, No human being could possibly be this ignorant....

@ jules, I agree. I just read about it a couple days ago and have seriously had to turn in my Fassbender fan card.

Kobie, I never said anything about race. And if I did it should be easy enough for you to show me. I'll wait.

Can we all agree that pookie is a troll, the comments about his wife proves that, even if he was joking. Chris Brown has repeatedly shown about that he has no remorse (as shown on his GMA interview) proves this, No human being could possibly be this ignorant....

Posted by: scrappy at February 16, 2012 9:25 PM

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Ok scrappy I’m a troll, so what does that have to do with the fact that Chris Brown hasn’t shown you the right amount of contrition. And who the fuck are you that Brown has to gravel for your forgiveness? You are the one online bitching and moaning all because Chris Brown didn’t prostrate before you. Go to bed and leave me alone you insignificant person you.

I would like Liam Neeson to be Rihannas dad/new boyfriend and catch this cocksucker at some party and bottlefuck his face to death. That is all.

I think its the other way around scraps, you want my attention, you need my attention, you want me to validate your insignificant existence. So I’ll oblige you, wait, what am I supposed to be mad at you about again?

The.End.

Pookie is a perfect example of why I often go 1 1/2 years between commenting on Pajiba. I go through a period where I am compelled to participate in the discussions and then I am worn down by an attrition of attitude by a 'regular', so I return to stealthLurk status.

As for Fassbender - how did I not know this?? I have seen nothing about this story anywhere! Disgusting.

What I also find disgusting are the comments saying that since Rihanna has forgiven Chris Brown that we should all forgive him as well. First, multiple people have discussed the dynamic between abusers and abused: Rihanna 'forgiving' Chris Brown isn't that simple. Second, what I find chilling is his utter lack of awareness of how seriously he injured her. An attitude which is mirrored by George Huguely.

"...there are worst crimes against women, rape being higher on my list."

Like death?

And speaking of rape - an act committed by a (usually) man who feels entitled to do whatever he wants to a victim and often believes that s/he 'asked for it'.

Yes, nothing like this at all.

@MarkM

Is it all women-beaters you wish death on, or just Chris Brown?

I take 'em on a case by case basis. When I see someone who clearly has never even pretended to show contrition, to acknowledge that his behaviour was bestial and disgusting, and who continues to act as though he is a victim somehow-oh yeah, I wish death on him, and all others like him.

Or to put it another way, if Chris Brown had ever behaved like he realized how wrong he was to brutally beat a woman, stood up like a man and answered questions about it without flying into a rage like the petulant, bullying piece of shit that he is, or recognized for one single solitary fucking second why many people have issues with Grammy appearances, or the notion that winning one somehow means he can say "fuck you" to those people-that they are just haters (and God, how I hate that fucking word) then I would simply loathe him-but I wouldn't wish him dead.

MarkM

Pookie, the fact that you read what I said and determined that I gave Fassbender a pass is disturbing.

Yes, I focused on Chris Brown because this post and subsequent discussion is about Chris Brown.

Posted by: Hayden Tompkins at February 17, 2012 12:17 AM

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Excuse me, but did you just not read what MarkM wrote about treating abusers on a case my case basis, do you find what he wrote disturbing? Sorry for putting words in your mouth Hayden, but what do you think about what MarkM wrote?

So, you read my comment (which - sigh - was in response to yours responding to my general comment) and instead of admitting you jumped into the crazy end of the pool, you are deflecting my attention to Mark.

I think I have seen all I need to here. And I really, really should have known better.

And that shit with Fassbender was legit. It was a licensed match and both of them had agreed to it.

Diablo- thank you for your post.
Just wanted to say that.

I am upset by what he did and what he continues to do. To those who say it's in the past....he made the comment telling everyone to fuck off less than a week ago. He hits on women by making light of the situation. He is an unrepentant solipsistic little twat who deserves the ill will he has brought upon himself. I'm sure the only thing Chris Brown regrets about that night is that he hurt his hand.

As for winning the Grammy, does that award even constitute a fuck off to the world anymore? Milli Vanilli won a fucking grammy.

As for Fassbender...tonight is the first I heard of it and now that I've heard it, he can fuck right off too. There is no such thing as case by case, if you prey on someone who is smaller and weaker than you, you deserve to be scorned. At the very least. But dick ebola is good too.

Just read all the comments. I am with Pookie, cause , if anything, he just seems to THINK AND FEEL about what he wrote, and not just give a sentence. Thanks, Pookie. As someone that , like him, didn't understand all the hate about Chris, i am glad to read that i am not alone in this. I mean, is not like i want be given an award to Brown as person, and i don't know him, so i don't know if i would like to be " friend" with him. I just don't know. But this has nothing to be with how the single persons should deal with his behaviour, here someone pretend to dictate how others people should react to a certain thing. You are free to hate Brown as you want, but why has all society react the way you do? I would understand if Brown hasn't paid for his crime, but he did. You think he had not changed at all? Is possibile, so don't hang out with him, or don't let him hang out with your friends, daugters. And is possible ( more a sure thing )that he is a whiny, stupid, spoiled boy , but this may be a reason not to have to do with him, but why give him this kind of " civil death"?

p.s. i don't mind about the wishing death comments, a comment is just a comment, i do worry about what how we think the society should react or do.

Yes, lets forgive Chris Brown already. He made one mistake.

From the MTV link:

"Brown was driving a vehicle with Robyn F. as the front passenger on an unknown street in Los Angeles. Robyn F. picked up Brown's cellular phone and observed a three-page text message from a woman who Brown had a previous sexual relationship with.

"A verbal argument ensued and Brown pulled the vehicle over on an unknown street, reached over Robyn F. with his right hand, opened the car door and attempted to force her out. Brown was unable to force Robyn F. out of the vehicle because she was wearing a seat belt. When he could not force her to exit, he took his right hand and shoved her head against he passenger window of the vehicle, causing an approximate one-inch raised circular contusion.

"Robyn F. turned to face Brown and he punched her in the left eye with his right hand. He then drove away in the vehicle and continued to punch her in the face with his right hand while steering the vehicle with his left hand. The assault caused Robyn F.'s mouth to fill with blood and blood to splatter all over her clothing and the interior of the vehicle.

"Brown looked at Robyn F. and stated, 'I'm going to beat the sh-- out of you when we get home! You wait and see!' "

The detective said "Robyn F." then used her cell phone to call her personal assistant Jennifer Rosales, who did not answer.

"Robyn F. pretended to talk to her and stated, 'I'm on my way home. Make sure the police are there when I get there.'

"After Robyn F. faked the call, Brown looked at her and stated, 'You just did the stupidest thing ever! Now I'm really going to kill you!'

"Brown resumed punching Robyn F. and she interlocked her fingers behind her head and brought her elbows forward to protect her face. She then bent over at the waist, placing her elbows and face near her lap in [an] attempt to protect her face and head from the barrage of punches being levied upon her by Brown.

"Brown continued to punch Robyn F. on her left arm and hand, causing her to suffer a contusion on her left triceps (sic) that was approximately two inches in diameter and numerous contusions on her left hand.

"Robyn F. then attempted to send a text message to her other personal assistant, Melissa Ford. Brown snatched the cellular telephone out of her hand and threw it out of the window onto an unknown street.

"Brown continued driving and Robyn F. observed his cellular telephone sitting in his lap. She picked up the cellular telephone with her left hand and before she could make a call he placed her in a head lock with his right hand and continued to drive the vehicle with his left hand.

"Brown pulled Robyn F. close to him and bit her on her left ear. She was able to feel the vehicle swerving from right to left as Brown sped away. He stopped the vehicle in front of 333 North June Street and Robyn F. turned off the car, removed the key from the ignition and sat on it.

"Brown did not know what she did with the key and began punching her in the face and arms. He then placed her in a head lock positioning the front of her throat between his bicep and forearm. Brown began applying pressure to Robyn F.'s left and right carotid arteries, causing her to be unable to breathe and she began to lose consciousness.

"She reached up with her left hand and began attempting to gouge his eyes in an attempt to free herself. Brown bit her left ring and middle fingers and then released her. While Brown continued to punch her, she turned around and placed her back against the passenger door. She brought her knees to her chest, placed her feet against Brown's body and began pushing him away. Brown continued to punch her on the legs and feet, causing several contusions.

"Robyn F. began screaming for help and Brown exited the vehicle and walked away. A resident in the neighborhood heard Robyn F.'s plea for help and called 911, causing a police response. An investigation was conducted and Robyn F. was issued a Domestic Violence Emergency Protective Order."

I'm sorry, did I say one? I count 12 mistakes and that's being generous since I lumped the barage of punches into a single punch.

Fuck Chris Brown and his sympathizers.

I can only pray that Rihanna wakes the fuck up in time because the book on Brown versus pop princess has already been written once.

Don't make me listen to Umbrella while I sigh heavily 20 years from now.

I won't even read the comments because I know for a fact some will make so angry I might actually break something here at my home.

But Courtney? I love you so hard. SO hard.

I don't know if Pookie eats dicks, but in this case at least, he should swallow his foot.

Did a little research about that Fassbender thing. As it turns out, the alleged abuse victim rectracted the allegations shortly after she made them and has a history of falsely accusing boyfriends of domestic abuse. The difference to Brown's case should be obvious.

I don't know if Pookie eats dicks, but in this case at least, he should swallow his foot.
Did a little research about that Fassbender thing. As it turns out, the alleged abuse victim rectracted the allegations shortly after she made them and has a history of falsely accusing boyfriends of domestic abuse. The difference to Brown's case should be obvious.

Posted by: FabMax at February 17, 2012 10:14 AM

So when Rhianna forgives Chris Brown is 'predictable behavior for a domestic violence victim'. But when someone recants charges on Fassbender it means he's innocent. Man, you guys love you some Fassbender

I think it would take a very disturbed person to falsely accuse someone of physical abuse. I tend to feel that when someone recants charges of abuse, it is because they are scared shitless of the person they are accusing.

@Lillie

Would it really surprise you to learn that there are quite a few very disturbed people out there?

Well OK then. Day Two of this comment thread.

Here's what makes me happyhappyhappy about this whole mess that is that knuckle-dragging pussy Chris Brown: He will enter a phase in his life when he is bloated, fat, abandoned by his pussy posse, and in trouble with the IRS. Yes. He will. Google search for a current photo of Bobby Brown. THAT's Chris Brown in maybe 10-plus years.

Karma's a bitch, Chrissy, and looks don't last. As for talent, well, yours is marginal at best anyway. And a Grammy? Don't make me laugh, you future bloated donut eater.

I take back everything I said about Fassbender, it is clear to me now that his girlfriend lied and recanted her story. Anyway, Fassbender does not look like the type of guy that would hit a woman, he does not have tattoos, and he is charming. The only reason this story came to light is because Fassbender knew his girlfriend was crazy and he wanted to cure her of her craziness, so he started dating her to help her get better. Although some people that get abused will report it, and then recant out of fear, but not this time. This crazy woman was out to get Fassbender from the beginning. With her cunning ways she tricked Fassbender into dating her. And now after this whole sordid episode is over, hopefully Fassbender can get back to wooing women on the big screen.

Oh god, I wish 'dick ebola' were a real thing that I could dole out at my whim - my first victims would be the all-male contraception panel in DC right now.

I'm impressed.

First the Point Dexter bow tie and then a puppy?

If that doesn't say "sorry" then I don't know what does.

So when Rhianna forgives Chris Brown is 'predictable behavior for a domestic violence victim'. But when someone recants charges on Fassbender it means he's innocent. Man, you guys love you some Fassbender.

Posted by: Pandemic at February 17, 2012 10:51 AM

It means he is innocent in the eyes of the law. Chris Brown is not. Him, we can judge, and we should if he's being a dick about the whole affair (which means he didn't learn anything). Fassbender we can't judge, because there is not enough information around.

I don't know why Rihanna goes back to him, and I don't really care. If she ends up in the ER (or, gods forbid, somewhere in the proverbial ditch) again, and Brown is convicted a second time, we will know better. If not, good for both of them.
That's all. Fassbender is a straw man in this discussion.

Posted by: FabMax at February 18, 2012 10:13 AM

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No, Fassbender can be judged, you just don’t want to judge him. Fassbender’s girlfriend said he beat her, and then she recanted, which sometimes victims of abuse do. To this day Fassbender has said nothing which to me is very interesting. What was her motivation for saying she was beaten by him, and what was her motivation for recanting? This woman just hit the lottery, and she’s going to give it all away by saying Fassbender beat her? Most likely Fassbender beat her, she filed a complaint then she thought better and recanted. All you people that want to dismiss Fassbender, I’m not going to let that happen. Every chance I get to show you your hypocrisy I will.

It might be interesting to compare Rhianna's motivation for continuing to spend time with CB with ya'll's motivation for continuing to engage with Pookie. Someone who obviously disdains you yet desperately craves your attention, and you keep thinking, what, that you'll change him? Prove something? Do anything other than repeatedly expose yourself to unpleasantness? WHY?

It might be interesting to compare Rhianna's motivation for continuing to spend time with CB with ya'll's motivation for continuing to engage with Pookie. Someone who obviously disdains you yet desperately craves your attention, and you keep thinking, what, that you'll change him? Prove something? Do anything other than repeatedly expose yourself to unpleasantness? WHY?

Posted by: kucheza at February 18, 2012 12:10 PM

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So what you are saying is that I’m some kind of a sadist, and everyone else is a masochist?

Well, you only love the ones you hurt.

I know I'm pretty late to the comment part here, bu the reason we shouldn't forgive Chris Brown has already been said, courtesy of "domestic violence affects everyone":

"Until we express zero tolerance for this kind of behavior it will continue."

To me, forgiving Chris Brown, especially in light of his behavior after the crime, is essentially to condone what he did. It reinforces the narrative that says she somehow deserved it and he somehow isn't entirely to blame. This needs to not be okay with anyone. And "all of society" is hardly still blaming Chris Brown. We are not short on apologists here.

I do think there's a place for rehabilitation and contrition, but that is not something we have seen in this case.

Because I feel pretty strongly about this, I had no qualms withdrawing my support of Fassbender. I can no longer cheer for the Steelers, because Ben Roethlisberger's consequence-free existence is an affront to everything I believe is right and good in the world. Roman Polanksi can go straight to hell, and no, I won't watch his movies.

I just won't be persuaded to tolerate this shit.

According to a certain Pajiban, race is involved in everything and to ever accuse anyone of color is to be a racist and therefore all people of color should get a pass on everything.
Chris Brown should be forgiven because he is black. Fassbender should not because he is white. To say otherwise is racist.

I think the whole Fassbender vs. Brown argument is deeply flawed for one reason, it's based on facts vs. assumptions. It is known, and factual, that Chris Brown hit Rihanna. She admits it, he admits it, it's been documented etc. Fassbender has been accused of abuse, yes. Problem is, the accuser has a history of lying about abuse, withdrew her statement and so on and so forth. Now here's where people chime in, "He intimidated her into recanting." and you know what? Maybe he did. Maybe he did threaten her, maybe he isn't the hunky slice of mancake Pajiba fawns for all the time. Maybe he was the other shooter on the Grassy Knoll. The problem remains that it has not been proven, and the theory that he threatened her is nothing more than that. A theory, an assumption. It's not a FACT. So to compare the 2 and say, "Hey, you don't crucify Fassbender for what he did," well how can you when we're not even sure of what he did? The reason people dislike Chris Brown so much is because he has shown no remorse and continues to act like a bitchy violent diva. He celebrated "learning from his mistakes" and growing from them by throwing a chair through the window of ABC. Course you gotta whip the shirt off when you threaten people there too to show just how tough you are. He constantly acts smug and childish on his Twitter and even made light of someone being molested when they were a child. Just classy behavior all around. Here's the thing, if you don't feel bad about it then don't. I don't feel as if Chris Brown owes me or anyone other than Rihanna an apology. But don't run around throwing your hands up frustrated and confused that people give you shit. Of course they will, you're running around acting like a douche in a world that is far beyond it's asshole quota. All of this is to simply say, some people don't deserve to be defended. He's an overgrown child who cannot find it in himself to be genuinely sorry for a vile act. But what can anyone expect? Everyday people hate to admit when they're wrong, imagine a celebrity. And btw Pookie, you seem extremely smart (and I'm not saying that in a condescending way before you assume that). You're intelligence seems wasted on a man who, were it not for his ugly behavior, would just be another cookie cutter R&B act. I know you want to expose hypocrisy and I even agree with some of the things you point out (like Idris Elba being the token black guy). But Chris Brown? There are far more deserving subjects of your passion.

UHHM , FIRST OF ALL , YOU GUYS ARE NOTHING BUT FUCKIN HATERS! HOP OFF HIS DICK . HE IS AMAZING ONE MISTAKE AND YOU ALL TREAT HIM LIKE SHIT . KISS MY FUCKIN ASS YOU FUCKIN DICK RIDERS . PEOPLE LIKE YOU GUYS ARE JUST ASSSHOLES , CHRIS BROWN IS FUCKIN AMAZING AND ALWAYS WILL BE