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10 Actors Who Hit Career Derailing Box-Office Free Falls

By Dustin Rowles | Box Office Round-Ups | July 26, 2013 | Comments ()


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Sadly, it’s just not going to work out for Ryan Reynolds as an action star. It’s too bad, because he is such a likable presence, and with the right action-comedy script, I think he could’ve been huge. Alas, that script never arrived. Instead, the back-to-back whammy of The Green Lantern and R.I.P.D. has put his career as an action star in serious jeopardy. The comedy in between, The Change-Up, has even hurt his comedy prospects (at least Safe House was a modest success, suggesting that Ryan Reynolds could thrive in a career in which he played second-fiddle to Denzel Washington, although I’m sure that is true of almost any actor). R.I.P.D. was a huge flop, a bigger box-office disappointment than even The Lone Ranger, as the $180 million budgeted film came in with $13 million over the weekend, good for only 7th place. I doubt international box-office is going to close the gap on this one, either. That wasn’t Reynolds’ only other disaster, however, as the animated pic, Turbo (for which Reynolds provided the lead snail’s voice) also came in low with $30 million over five days, which isn’t so great for a $130 million film sandwiched between Despicable Me 2 (which came out ahead of Turbo in its 3rd week) and Smurfs 2, which arrives in a couple of weeks. Bad box office plus short legs equals failure.

In fact, it was The Conjuring, which cost only $20 million, that was the big hit of the weekend, nearly doubling the budget with a $39 million opening in a summer starved for a decent horror pic (and “decent” was about how The Conjuring measured up). Meanwhile, Red 2 also came in soft with just over $21 million on an $85 million budget, although the locations and the cast suggests that Red 2 could play well internationally (it was at least obvious they were trying very hard to appeal to an international audience).

It was a bad weekend for summer blockbusters, and we are getting to that part of the summer where audiences have grown weary of the same things, which doesn’t bode particularly well for Wolverine next week, although August 9th’s Elysium should play well as a nice change of pace.

But back to Reynolds, the latest in a string of actors either poised to be the next big thing, or attempting fight outside their weight class, only to hit a string of box-office failures that derailed — at least temporarily — their careers. I suspect that, should Reynolds want to rebound, he should go back to doing what he does best: Modestly budgeted romantic comedies with limited expectations and comic relief in action flicks. Reynolds is like that All-Star pitcher for a team like Kansas City who gets paid $25 million a year to pitch for the Yankees and crumbles under the expectations. Go back to Kansas City, brah.

Some of the folks below have rerouted their careers successfully, while some are still working on it.

The studios moved too quickly on the next great action star, Taylor Kitsch, and his films — more than Kitsch himself — let him down, when John Carter, Battleship, and The Savages put him back in his place. Studios won’t bet $100 million budgeted movies on him again anytime soon. Hello Redbox!

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Action Star in the Making, Ben Affleck, hit a snag with Daredevil, Gigli, Paycheck, Jersey Girl, Surviving Christmas. He, however, reinvented himself as the indie actor (Hollywoodland) we knew he could be, and a prestige film director (The Town, which has allowed him to climb back to the A-list in roles more suited to him: Dramatic leading male in $40 million films geared toward adults.

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Coming off of Mean Girls, Lindsay Lohan was poised to be the next leading lady of rom coms, until Herbie Fully Loaded, Just My Luck, I Know Who Killed Me,Georgia Rule, and a host of personal problems essentially killed her film career. She has, however, reinvented herself as a coked-out troublemaker. It has been surprisingly lucrative.

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Coming off of Juno, Superbad and “Arrested Development,” Michael Cera was the future of hipster movies, until Year One, Youth in Revolt, and Scott Pilgrim vs. the World pushed him back where he belongs: Art-house films that no one watches and “Arrested Development.”

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I’ll never quite understand what happened to what was supposed to be the British George Clooney, but Clive Owen hit a bad streak with Shoot ‘Em Up, The Boys Are Back, Duplicity, and The International that dropped him from the the future A-listers of America to VOD actor. It’s mystifying.

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An Oscar winner, Billy Bob Thornton could’ve thrived as a character actor or a art-film lead for the rest of his career but he got greedy and tried his hand at dumb studio comedies. The 2006-07 trifecta, Mr. Woodcock, The Astronaut Farmer, and School for Scoundrels put any hopes of Thornton as a leading man in the toilet, and now he’s working on a comeback as in the role that suits him: Character actor.

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After a huge early career, John Travolta flamed out, but after Tarantino saved him, Travolta went back to doing what he does best: Paycheck roles. Lucky Numbers, Battlefield Earth, and Swordfish were the seeds for his second fall, although it has not been as hard as the first (at least, professionally) thanks to playing second-fiddle in a Denzel movie (Denzel is the human box-office trampoline).

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Jacinda Barrett, the former “Real World” cast member, was poised to be the leading lady of the future, for one year at least (2006). Poseidon, The Last Kiss, and School for Scoundrels dismissed any notion of that. She’s back to periodic TV work and being the wife of Gabriel Macht.

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The studios thought they might have had something with Josh Lucas after Sweet Home Alabama. Stealth and Poseidon proved them wrong. Now he’s struggling with TV work and playing the Patrick Dempsey role from Sweet Home Alabama in lesser romantic comedies than Sweet Home Alabama.

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Maybe Colin Farrell could’ve been the next Tom Cruise, but the streak of Daredevil, Phone Booth, S.W.A.T. and the nail in the coffin, Alexander, put those ambitions aside. He limped back up two years later and got swatted back down with Miami Vice. Last year’s Total Recall suggests that Hollywood had not completely given up on Farrell as a big-budget leading man, but perhaps they should have. Despite many tries, he’s never had a big hit as a leading man (he is still generally fantastic in smaller movies with lower expectations).

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Finally, Uma Thurman has been in free-fall essentially since 2005’s Be Cool, starting with Producers and My Super Ex-Girlfriend, hitting a low point with Motherhood, a movie that had an opening weekend of £88 in the UK. Poor Uma.

Eddie Murphy should be mentioned, although he has managed to hit a few branches in the midst of his 15-year-long free-fall with hits like Dreamgirls, Norbit, and Tower Heist. Robin Williams, likewise, had a more gradual descent. Mike Myers, on the other hand, didn’t have a box-office free fall so much as a disappearing act: Cat in the Hat was followed up five years later by The Love Guru, which put the kibosh on his comedy career.




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  • Orleanas

    I'd like to nominate Jake Gyllenhaal. After I finally saw him in his Oscar-nominated role in Brokeback Mountain, I became a fan (of Ledger and M. Williams, too) and thought big things were in store for him. I mean, he is tall, handsome (having grown out of that awful awkward phase), has an endearing smile, and seems to have an engaging personality. However, his career and love life seem to have taken a turn for the worse--and I blame Reese Witherspoon and Taylor Swift (SMMFH). He is now the underachiever of the main core of that film, and it makes me very sad for him. I mean, Anne Hathaway is now a freaking Oscar winner and she was/is the weakest link. Jake deserves better.

    Folks, let's send some positive energy into the world for Jake. He desperately needs our love and support and some better roles / success.

  • e jerry powell

    It should be noted that Travolta has flamed out MULTIPLE TIMES (i.e. more than thrice) in his career. Kotter, Saturday Night Fever and Grease comprised block one. Then he made the bone-headed decision to do a Jane Wagner love story opposite Lily Tomlin, rebounded slightly with Urban Cowboy, and then fell totally into the crapper by following that up with a sequel to Saturday Night Fever and a tragic re-teaming with Olivia Newton-John in quick succession. He circled the drain until Look Who's Talking, but then entered another kind of hell when the paycheck was offered for the sequels. Resurgence with Pulp Fiction, some drop-off until Face/Off, backsliding all the way to Battlefield Earth (and doing a tragic wraparound by reprising Kotter on Drew Carrey), coasting all the way to Hairspray, and that pretty much lands us in the present.

    Poor Josh Lucas. If only The Emu would evaporate or explode or get sucked into an Event Horizon or something.

  • Kirk L

    Didn't Safe Hous make a ton of money? I'm sure Denzel helped.

  • Scorptilicus

    So, is the biggest problem that these people just choose terrible movies to star in?

  • Dominic

    You want a blockbuster ? Enter the Logan , and his claws , in Japan !
    The only question is how faithfully they render this comic book arc ... If us CB fans like it it could be in theatres till October ...

  • ClockworkOrange

    Clooney talks about being a sellout

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    "Cause I got the fucking job, asshole."

    I agree 100%

  • Jenn TheYellowDart

    I WILL NOT HEAR A BAD WORD AGAINST SHOOT EM UP. THAT FILM IS FREAKING AMAZING. *runs flailing and screaming around the room*

  • Poor Taylor Kitsch. I so wanted him to succeed. Is it because they cut his hair for Battleship and killed his Tim Riggins mojo? Or is it more that that was his role of a lifetime? (FYI, I actually really enjoyed John Carter. I blame the atrocious marketing and amazingly bloated budget.)

  • llp

    I agree. I thought John Carter was, for the most part, enormously good fun to watch, and that Kitsch did a fine job in the role. I didn't see Savages, but he has some good films coming up, so I hope he didn't just Samson himself.

  • Green Lantern

    Absolutely. "John Carter" was a good, almost GREAT, movie about a truly seminal character...and could've gotten a MUCH bigger push from Disney.

    What the hell, Disney? Be *proud* that you got the rights to a character that predates Superman or The Shadow!

  • Brown

    In order to free fall, don't you have to be at some height to begin with? If something he was in worked, it wasn't because of him.

  • frozen01

    I didn't even hear about R.I.P.D. until a couple days ago, and I thought it was a) a TV show and b) a joke. It was supposed to be a serious summer blockbuster?

  • Fredo

    Three things to keep in mind:

    1. A project may start out as a smart choice when it's being lined up and be a bad bet by the time it's coming out. I'm sure when Reynolds chose Green Lantern, the idea of being a star in his own comic book movie as well as part of a potential JLA franchise seemed smart. Problem was it came out the same summer as Thor, Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man, X-Men: First Class. Difficult to differentiate yourself on top of GL's own internal problems.

    2. A lot of these actors pick projects like they're still struggling as they're blowing up. (Or what I call the "Antonio Banderas Effect"). True movie stars have 1-2 projects a year and aren't afraid of taking a year off if needed. But since you're only beginning to blow up, you still take roles like you're afraid people will forget about you. End result: you have lots of product out there, which increases the chance that A) bombs will accumulate and B) audiences will get tired of you. (The best example was Banderas, who broke through in 1995 with Desperado and still had 4 other projects out that very same year, including Assassins, Four Rooms and Never Talk to Strangers).

    3. Being in a hit movie doesn't mean you're the reason it's a hit, AKA "The Megan Fox Effect." Megan Fox was in Transformers and it was a big hit. Then she was in Transformers 2 and it was a big hit. Naturally people thought she was a big reason for the movies being big hits instead of the gigantic robots fighting it out. She makes her vampire movie and it doesn't make money. Then she makes Jonah Hex and it doesn't make money. It wasn't her fault the successes were successes nor the bombs bombs. But like QBs getting the glory/blame for wins and losses, so do the names above the marquees get the same glory/blame.

  • dizzylucy

    I agree with this - I would be if you asked the actors of many of these projects, the end result was not what was pitched to them or imagined when signing on. I also can't blame anyone just getting going for taking on roles that they know might not be the best. Everyone's got bills to pay.

  • Ian Fay

    Am I the only one that liked Shoot-Em-Up?

    Yes, it was ridiculous, but it was awesomely so.

  • Jenn TheYellowDart

    I just screamed a comment about loving it. Like...in complete UN-irony. I just flat out enjoyed the hell out of the movie.

  • You're not the only one. That movie was a hoot. It's like a -slighty- more serious 'Crank.'

  • Naye

    Im perfectly happy with the choices Colin Farrell Makes now. Except Total Recall. he should have dropped as soon as Jessica Biel signed on.

  • Slash

    Hey, I don't begrudge somebody crap movies. A job's a job.

    I mean, I won't pay to watch crap movies, but they can't all be "The Godfather" or "The Town." Even shitty movies provide employment.

  • apsutter

    I love Clive Owen and still feel sad about Mike Meyers.

  • llp

    Yeah, Myers was really, really funny. I hold out hope he will find something great again one day.

  • Xulux

    Bridget Fonda disappeared so fast, sometimes I wonder if I just imagined her.

  • She's around. Small movies.

  • $27019454

    Married to Danny Elfman. MARRIED TO DANNY ELFMAN!!!! It's like the coup of the century, married to one of the most interesting, talented, weird, funk people ever. I'd have that put on my tombstone over "Starred in Single White Female" any day.

  • lowercase_ryan

    I would LOVE to know what causes some actors to be so careless in the roles they take. Is it straight up money? Do they think these things sound like winners? Do they become celluloid sharks wherein they die if they aren't making a movie? Seriously, how do you read the script for RIPD and think "Fuck yeah, I can't wait to make this"? Go have sex with Blake Lively for 6 months, see the world, do crazy drugs, the world is so very much your oyster just slow down and be discerning dammit!

  • Maguita NYC

    What about Robert De Niro? From Grodfather, Taxi Driver, Deer Hunter to... Meet the Fockers, The Big Wedding, and that Adam Sandler shit fest.

    I find it weird for some to hit amazing highs, then fall so low. Even if we KNOW they are talented.

  • ed newman

    It's almost like once Scorsese cut him loose he acted like a jilted lover, fell into despair, and let himself go. I bet he defaces every picture of DiCaprio he sees,

  • Bert_McGurt

    Actually, cast Reynolds as Wally West's Flash in a movie called The Groddfather and we may have a (pun DEFINITELY intended) box-office gorilla on our hands.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...

  • Green Lantern

    You should be ashamed, Bert.

    Actually I'm ashamed for you. Wow.

  • KV

    Unless and until Martin Scorsese decides to pull a Tarantino on Robert De Niro, he will keep showing up on drecks like "Meet the Fockers". Or perhaps, that's De Niro's master plan...to make Scorsese feel bad for him, and come forward to save him.

  • Maguita NYC

    I believe Scorcese might be in need of saving himself lately. He is way too obsessed with Leo DiCaprio to notice anything else going on.

  • KV

    But here is the thing with Scorsese (full disclosure: I'm a great admirer of Scorsese): he, rarely if ever, makes a bad movie. One might be indifferent/ambivalent to his work, but he maintains a certain minimum standard.

  • Maguita NYC

    That's a great point. I'm not a fan-fan of Scorsese; He is a great Director and had undeniably marked filmography forever. And in regard to his movies, I may fall more into the category of indifference lately. I'm not finding this Scorsese/DiCaprio somewhat exclusive pairing attractive.

    Loved The Departed, because it was more of an ensemble cast, but so far was not blown away by the rest.

  • DuBois

    DiCaprio is a good actor, but he's not on the level of DeNiro... could Leo have pulled off Taxi Driver or Raging Bull? I seriously doubt it.

  • Mrs. Julien

    Sometimes, they just want to work.

  • Maguita NYC

    That is EXACTLY what bothers me.

    All these fine actors at one time or another have spoken of their "ART". How they go about picking their projects, the importance of the story, the character, the director, yada-yada-yada.

    And then they go and make Meet the Fockers. Maybe it's a blip. But meet the Fockers is followed by by What Just Happened, more Fockers, New Year's Eve... And JACK AND JILL FFS!!

    Don't sell me that ideal that you are an actor's actor, and go on to making an almost full decade of shit movies. Just be honest and tell me you don't like living at home, but would rather live in hotels and spend your time on set. I can understand that.

  • God Of Bal-Sagoth

    "Careers are not often as chosen as people think they are. People talk to me about my choices. I don't make choices, hardly. Things happen, and you say yes or no - usually 'yes', because it's always better to do something. What's the choice? Somebody will say, 'Don't do that part, you don't need to do that part.' And I'll say, 'Why not? What am I going to do? Sit around the house? I'd much rather go to work, and see actors, and have fun."

    -Christopher Walken

  • Maguita NYC

    But Christopher Walken is a God no matter what he does.

  • God Of Bal-Sagoth

    This is true.

  • Mrs. Julien

    I'm not sure it's realistic to hold mere mortals to an eternal "pure artist" standard. No one can be cutting edge forever and many of them are not as willing as they need to be about making their own opportunities. How many of them really manage to maintain it? Moreover, no matter how much crap DeNiro makes, he'll always have Raging Bull. You are as good as the best thing you've ever done. It's vexing that he makes poor choices now, but he's allowed to be human and he was once a god.

    Which brings me to Marketing Automaton Garth Brooks. He got in, figured out the system, worked his ass off, made his money, and got out. Part of me respects his blatantly commercial approach to his profession. The other part of me is appalled by his blatantly commercial approach to his profession.

  • Sara_Tonin00

    Yeah, but then he turned around with the crazy artistic endeavor that was Chris Gaines. With the Emo Soul Patch©, if I remember correctly.

  • Wigamer

    OK--I'm interested in your take on his stint as weird alter-ego musician Chris Gaines, then. Attempt to crack a new demographic? Total narcissism/megalomania gone hopelessly awry? Because that was one of the weirdest shitshows I've ever seen.

  • Mrs. Julien

    I'm going with the narcissism.

  • Maguita NYC

    Must be one of those days when I'm thinking it, but not able to type it properly... I DO NOT MIND them making shitty movies, but I do begrudge them making shitty movies for over a decade when they have so often, and so bluntly, touted their "ART" above the all-mighty dollar. They were the ones holding themselves to the "pure artiste" standard. We weren't.

  • JJ

    But "they" who? Who specifically has been saying that they put their art above all else?

  • Maguita NYC

    I was talking about De Niro. I'm sure you can google old interviews where he talks about his acting and meeting his standards.

  • JJ

    Yes, I'm sure that he takes his acting seriously. But also, based on a NYT interview I just pulled from 2012 when asked specifically about the Fockers movies:
    "Sometimes, I would much prefer to do something with more subtlety and
    more nuance, a more complicated thing, more contradictory. But they’re
    fun to do. I don’t know if I’ll do any more."

    As they say, [citation needed].

  • Mrs. Julien

    Fair play to you.

  • Maguita NYC

    Jeez, I just noticed how impatient I am today and it shows! Sorry Mrs. J. I'll just take a something-with-chocolate break, and eat it in lc-ryan's face.

    It'll make me feel better.

  • Mrs. Julien

    I wasn't put out, but there are few situations which cannot be improved by the judicious application of chocolate.

  • Maguita NYC

    Pot is frowned upon at work Mrs. J.

  • Mrs. Julien

    Which is ironic given how much it makes one smile.

  • lowercase_ryan

    I did hear Pierce Brosnan say that he made the Bond movies so that he could make stuff like The Thomas Crowne Affair. Which I got and was ok with. But while the Bond movies are absolutely fluff, they remain three cuts above Meet the Fockers.

  • Maguita NYC

    I believe you can still be picky, especially if you've made it public that your standard IS to be picky, but not to go shit dive in the Fockers pool.

    I remember Affleck admitting that he does blockbusters (during Armageddon interview), so he could afford doing indie movies. I had more respect for him, no matter if later on he had proven to not be such a talented actor, but rather an amazing director.

  • Sara_Tonin00

    Yeah, Brando was famously picky, but that did not stop him from making bombs. Though ambitious bombs, not idiotic ones.

  • lowercase_ryan

    He was still the bomb in Phantoms yo!

  • JenVegas

    I was watching Phantoms over the weekend thinking "This might actually be Affleck's greatest role."

  • Maguita NYC

    *Embarrassed* Have not watched this...

  • lowercase_ryan

    not exactly a good movie, just a fave of mine.

  • JJ

    Actors and actresses take shit jobs all the time. They don't just sometimes want to work. They always want to work. That doesn't mean they can't aspire to have better projects or try to be an actor's actor, but how many of those iconic roles come together for most of them? If they're lucky, maybe a handful of times in a career. To me, it's like anyone who takes a terrible job within their dream career path. You can only be so picky all of the time.

  • marya

    You nailed it. I am married to an actor (an actor of the theatuh, but the principle holds).

    You need to understand three things about actors before you call them careless with their careers.

    1. Each job might be your last job. This list is the perfect proof of that. I don't care if you are working in regional theatre or you're Clooney, you could be one job away from never working again. So who are you to say no when someone calls with an offer?

    2. There's very little correlation between "great role on paper" and actual movie. There are too many moving parts. Directors change, co-stars change, the movie is re-written in editing, the cultural zeitgeist shifts. Since you have no control over the quality of the finished project, you sign up for something that piques your interest. You look for a director you want to work with. Or the chance to do comedy if you've been pigeonholed as a dramatic actor. And then you cross your fingers.

    3. Actors want to act. They need to work with a kind of intensity that I can't really even understand. It's why they became an actor to begin with. It's not even about paying the light bill, or the drug dealer. Call it a personality disorder, or call it the creative impulse, but artists really are wired differently.

    So, yeah, Ryan Reynolds could be boning Blake Lively on the deck of a Greek yacht. But after three days, he'll call his agent, because he'll want to go back to work. And so will she.

  • Maguita NYC

    I agree. My point had more however to do with some strongly representing themselves as strongly principled, and would flatly turn down any role that is not up to par with their standards.

    That is why I mentioned how I wouldn't mind if De Niro stated simply he just wants to constantly work.

  • Pawesl

    De Niro wasnt in Jack and Jill, that was Pacino

  • Maguita NYC

    Although Pacino was in it as well, I remember Adam on Letterman and they spoke of a surprise appearance by De Niro playing himself... Something with a baseball and "Jill"...

    Anyone seen that movie and can confirm?

  • kirbyjay

    I have never seen an Adam Sandler movie. I can't stand the sight of him. He could be in Grown Ups 5, Middle Age with Russell Crowe ( Kevin James), Sean Bean (David Spade), and Denzel Washington (Chris Rock) and I still wouldn't watch that movie.

  • lowercase_ryan

    I triple dog dare someone to admit, on this site, to having seen Jack and Jill.

  • Maguita NYC

    Fudge. Now I'm gonna have to look for that Letterman interview. Who by the way had glorified that movie, showering Sandler with amazing tribute... For a movie who was trending at 4% at the time on Rotten Tomatoes.

  • logan

    Why are we feeling sorry for Reynolds? The man makes TERRIBLE choices. This latest movie looks like such a rip-off of MIB that the MIB producers would of sued but since it only made a buck fifty they didn't bother.

  • draeton

    Pet peeve: would've.

  • Some Guy

    The most obvious question to be asked from all of this is: don't these people ever read a script before agreeing to star in it?

  • emmalita

    Scripts often change a lot between the time an actor sees the script and the movie finishes shooting.

  • Pawesl

    They do but the thing about movies is you get paid whether it does well or not. Some people play in stinkers just for the big paycheck so they work on lower paying passion projects.

  • Chris

    They probably do. But the script is such a ridiculously small part of if an big-budget movie bombs or succeeds. It's all about promotion, hype, marketability of the main actors, and an irrationality of the fans that is only trumped by that of the stock market.

  • BuffyloGal

    I think Michael Cera's performance in "This is the End" is what will start his comeback. If he can climb out of that pit.

  • GDI

    Touche.

  • stella

    Ummm.... Patrick Dempsey was also in Sweet Home Alabama

  • Naye

    Josh Lucas ( I will still pause the channel if he is on the screen) did actually play the Patrick Dempsey Role from SHA in Life As We Know It. The next guy who gets dumped for the ex-guy. My poor baby.

  • Mrs. Julien

    [insert comment re: Colin Farrell triumphing over my stays here]

    This list validates my "Three Chances and Done" rule and I do so love feeling validated. I am fascinated by this stuff. It's such a nebulous thing and it really does take a village to create a movie star. Props to Channing Tatum for pulling it off. Henry Cavill (Oh my God, he's so good-looking) should hire his people.

    I don't have much sympathy for any of them. You make the best choice you can, you try to do your best work, you fail, and then you star in B movies and get to continue working and collecting really very handsome paycheques. There are worse fates. Also, some of them (Alec Baldwin, Colin Farrell, Billy Bob Thornton) are better as character actors and only Brad Pitt has been able to pull off the "character actor trapped in a leading man's body" transition to A list star.

  • ZizoAH

    What about Scarlett Johansson? I mean, aside from the obvious success of Iron Man 2 and The Avengers (which wasn't because of her, obviously), she is basically poison for the box office.

  • E Robb

    But just like Iron Man and The Avengers weren't because of her, the failures of The Spirit, We Bought a Zoo, and Hitchcock weren't because of her.

    She's done really well in leading roles in smaller movies with good directors.

  • $27019454

    Billy Bob Thornton was born to be a character actor. He could have as long and lustrous a career as Michael Caine if he finds the right uh character to put him back on track. I have faith. He is AMAZING.

  • Clive Owen and George Clooney? Here's the main difference:
    George Clooney = handsome + charming.
    Clive Owen = handsome + charming + strange hint of a terrifyingly cold, soulless black abyss lurking within.
    But maybe that's just me.

  • Adam Eve

    Owen was fantastic and magnetic in a couple of BBC series a long time ago: unhinged, dangerous but also touching. Then he suddenly got himself some American perfect teeth, and he hasn't been the same since. He´s Fake Clive Owen.

  • kirbyjay

    First time I saw him was Lorna Doone with Sean Bean
    and there is nothing wrong with American perfect teeth. Much better than British crooked yellow teeth.

  • Jae

    Yep, nothing wrong with filing enamel off from perfectly healthy teeth and putting caps/veneers on them making them so much more sucseptible to cavities etc., just because they weren't perfectly white. Nothing wrong with fucking up a healthy part of your body for vanity! And pressuring others to do so too!

  • Mrs. Julien

    It's his body.

  • Sara_Tonin00

    is he any creepier than Fassbender?

    I just say this as evidence that the coldness need to stop one from movie stardom.

    Owen is fascinating to watch, though.

  • Wigamer

    Deliciously cold and creepy, is my Fassy. But he gets nekkid a lot more than Clive Owen, so Fassbender ftw.

  • draeton

    I would strongly consider Owen, but think better of it at the last minute, right before climbing into the taxi next to him. For Fassbender, I would climb into the trunk.

  • Wigamer

    I would gladly cling to the door handle and be dragged alongside the cab.

  • Fabius_Maximus

    Yeah, but that's what's making Owen so interesting.

  • Mrs. Julien

    ...but not movie star material.

  • Maguita NYC

    Owen is supporting actor material.

    Many of the above mentioned actors are talented, but they've been egotistically aiming for leading actor instead of admitting they're better off in supporting roles, that not only will get them steady work, but also better star coverage.

  • frozen01

    Children of Men. Enough said.

  • Fabius_Maximus

    Also: Second Sight. Shadow Dancer is supposed to be pretty good, as well.

  • Sara_Tonin00

    leading actor is not the same as movie star. Owen hasn't really failed in anything I've seen him in as lead actor. Maybe the movies have been subpar, but I've never thought his performances were.

    Maybe his performance in King Arthur, but that script was so...all over the place, I couldn't really pin that on him.

  • emmalita

    That's one of the things I like best about Clive Owen. He has a permanent spot on my Five Freebies list.

  • MGMcD

    Exactly. I have never had any interest in Clooney, even in the ER days, but Clive has been on my Freebies since Croupier. Back before Daniel Craig scored the role I wanted Clive to be Bond. so. hard.

  • Sara_Tonin00

    he's mesmerizing in the first Bourne, too. Barely says a word and yet he's fascinating to watch. And you feel for him too.

  • itbloo

    My GF and her BGF just love him. Personally I don't get it, but who knows what lies in the heart of a woman.

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