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Indecent Proposal / Dustin Rowles

Underappreciated Gems | June 11, 2009 | Comments (39)


Have you ever been cheated on? There is nothing quite like the emotional pain of learning that someone you love has been fucking someone else. It’s a helpless ache, a roiling throb that sits in the pit of your stomach that nothing but the passage of time can heal. It leaves you numb, curled up on your bed with a pillow between your legs to offer false comfort. And unlike a lot of other emotional traumas, you can’t repress it. You have to own it, process it, work through it, and let the poison run completely through your system before you can move on.

No director is better at duplicating that feeling onscreen that Adrian Lyne, the master of the adultery film, most recently with the Unfaithful and, before that, Indecent Proposal. I haven’t seen Indecent Proposal since I’d last been cheated on, but its release on Blu Ray gave me an excuse to revisit it. I feared that it’d been ravaged by time, that it’d feel outdated, that my current perceptions of both Woody Harrelson and Demi Moore would taint it, but — despite the occasionally poorly written line and an incredibly lame gimmick even for 1993 — it’s still an emotionally raw, though flawed, film.

For even those that haven’t seen Indecent Proposal, the film’s gimmick — a hook good enough to draw moviegoers in to see an adultery film — is probably already familiar. David (Woody Harrelson) and Diana (Demi Moore) are a happily married couple. They met in college and have had, since, a fairly routine happy marriage. He’s an architect; she’s a real-estate agent. They love each other, and things are going swimmingly. That is, until the recession hits. David loses his job; Diana’s career suffers, and the two find themselves broke, just short of losing the dream house that David is building. Times are tough; they need $50,000 to avoid foreclosure. David borrows $5,000 from his Dad, and the two decide — unwisely — to attempt to multiply the money at a casino in Vegas. No dice.

But, while they’re there, Diana inadvertently catches the eye of John Cage (Robert Redford), a wealthy entrepreneur who thinks nothing of losing $1 million at the craps table. He’s instantly smitten, and the type of egotistical bastard that believes that everything has a price tag, even the thigh-betwixt of a married woman. He recruits her as his lucky charm at the tables, wins back $1 million he lost, and invites the couple up to his penthouse for an after-party. There, he offers a deal: He’ll give David and Diana $1 million to spend the night with Diana.

It’s an absurd premise, of course. David tells Cage to go the hell, and in most loving marriages, there wouldn’t even be a moral dilemma. That would be that. But this is a mainstream Hollywood film here, and like we allowed ourselves do to in largely ignoring the abortion question in both Knocked Up and Juno, we also allow ourselves to entertain a question we’d never consider in real life: Is a lifetime of financial security worth one night of your wife’s infidelity.

It’s in exploring that question that Indecent Proposal suffers the most — the premise would’ve made a great mumblecore film, I suspect, as the characters would’ve spent most of the time debating the merits of both sides. Here, it’s too glossed over — Diana decides to do it for David and David allows her to do it because … well, it’s hard to say. Perhaps because it sounded like a good idea to him on paper and he failed to really consider the consequences. In either respect, the decision to do it is arrived at quickly. She flies off in a helicopter with Cage, and David is left to stew in his own regret. Nothing about the scenario rings particularly true.

It’s the aftermath, however, where Lyne demonstrates his deftness with adultery-related material. No happily-married husband would allow his wife to fuck another man for cash, but, if he did, the second act is a fairly realistic depiction of what would happen. They decide not to talk about it, but It doesn’t work. Like any decent male with an ounce of pride, David eventually demands to know the details. And when you look like Woody Harrelson, and your wife just slept with a guy who looks like Robert Redford, you don’t want the specifics and you really don’t want to know if he was better. Naturally, the truth wreaks havoc on their marriage, and it begins to unravel.

The third act reverts to Hollywood formulism, but it works. It works because Robert Redford is a charmingly arrogant prick who you want to slap the shit out of and then sleep with; because Woody Harrelson has always been good when given a role where he has to battle his own pride (see also White Men Can’t Jump, where Harrelson gave the movie the better performance than it deserved), and because Adrian Lyne knows how to hit all the right chords. It doesn’t hurt, either, that he’s backed up by John Barry’s score (Dances with Wolves), which gently digs into that ache, although there are a few times that Amy Jones’ (Mystic Pizza) script threatens to derail Lyne’s deft direction.

Indeed, it’s hard to say that Indecent Proposal works as a film about a married woman sleeping with a rich asshole for a lot of money. But it does work quite well as an adultery film. Granted, it’s a movie burdened by hokiness, but there’s so much human complexity beneath it that Indecent Proposal’s strengths manage, ever-so-slightly to overcome its flaws. And, if anything, it provides a convenient means for accelerating the process of getting over your own betrayals of fidelity.

Dustin Rowles is a famous Internet personality, so famous that he’d never have to barter his wife for cash. You can email him or leave a comment below


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Comments

Before I even read, I have to scream, "Squeeze!".

There now, I feel better. On to reading.

Posted by: Cindy at June 11, 2009 2:12 PM

This movie has always been one of my guilty pleasures. Well done, sir. Now I have to watch it again as soon as possible. How does the line go? "Have I ever told you I love you?"

(Every time I see the famous Internet personality line, I snort with laughter. It's very attractive.)

Posted by: Nicole at June 11, 2009 2:20 PM

Well, I suppose I should see this now.

Posted by: Cindy at June 11, 2009 2:21 PM

"that my current perceptions of both Woody Harrelson and Demi Moore would taint it..."


The way I see it, Moore tainted it way back then.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at June 11, 2009 2:21 PM

Are comments posting really slowly for everyone lately?

(sorry if it's been addressed)

Posted by: Jay at June 11, 2009 2:33 PM

Are comments posting really slowly for everyone lately?

Posted by: Jay at June 11, 2009 2:33 PM

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Yes!! they have been at least since Monday, I thought it was on my end!

GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER ROWLES, you're slowing down the whole fucking web.

You asshat.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at June 11, 2009 2:40 PM

Me too Jay and thanks for cracking the whip Bslim.

I've never actually seen this movie. I'm aware of it and have seen snippets here and there but never actually watched it. Quite frankly after reading the review it will probably stay that way.

Posted by: admin at June 11, 2009 2:44 PM

You know, I've never actually seen this movie. I do love Unfaithful, though. (God do I love that movie.) I think I had no interest in this at the time, probably because I was 22 and had very strong feelings about cheating. I'm kind of interested to check it out now that I'm older and my thoughts have ... evolved.

Dustin, I'll give you $75 cash money for your wife. Huh? Huh? Where's your fame and your morals now?

Posted by: Anna von Beaverplatz at June 11, 2009 2:51 PM

I think the dumbest gimmick in this movie isn't the actual proposal--but the losing-the-money-in-Vegas thing. I hate that plot device. You know that every single time someone goes to Vegas to "make it big" they'll end up either losing all their money or getting drunk-married. It's so cliche and stupid and way, way overused in film. It's so bad that I can never watch this movie all the way through, though I'm thinking after your review that I probably should. Mostly because there's something so damn cool about Robert Redford.

Posted by: figgy at June 11, 2009 2:54 PM

I enjoyed this movie immensely when it came out some years ago, having been involved in sexual intrigue in prior relationships this movie triggered feelings that I thought I had long buried.

Posted by: Guess Who! at June 11, 2009 2:54 PM

We're looking into the commenting issue. Thanks for bringing it to our attention.

Posted by: Dustin Rowles at June 11, 2009 3:00 PM

My only complaint was the oh-so-NOT-plausible ending, where the chick picks Woody Harrelson over Robert Freaking Redford. Give me a break.

The Woody Harrelson character pissed me off in this one. "Whaa-whaa... was he better than me?" Shut the fuck up. Chances are there have been many others better than you. Take the money, thank your wife for the favor, pay your mortgage and move on. It's just sex.

Posted by: courtney at June 11, 2009 3:11 PM

SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW POOOOOOOOOOOOOST! I'm glad it's not just me. I thought I'd broken Pajiba again.

Posted by: BWeaves at June 11, 2009 3:20 PM

It’s an absurd premise, of course. David tells Cage to go the hell, and in most loving marriages, there wouldn’t even be a moral dilemma. That would be that.

What...the fuck...are you talking about? Now I'm not married, but I would probably have no qualms with my wife sleeping with Robert Fucking Redford for a million dollars. A million dollars. We could buy a new house, two new cars, and marriage counseling and still have money for other shit.

and a rant:
As for breakups, I'm still stewing over my last relationships. See, I broke several of the DeistBrawler rules with the last ex. She wasn't 21 yet, she didn't have a car, and she was fucking insane. I loved her though, she lived with me for 11 months and then decided she wanted to be on her own. I took her to work, to college, to doctors appts, friends, etc. On her own meant she wanted to live by herself, get a car, and start dating women...yeah, you got the last part. Four months later she has already dated a woman and broke up with her, got her own apt, got a car, and got a fucking midget boyfriend who now lives with her...she broke up with me a month before I was going to propose to her. See, I hate you women. I hate you. "Open up, tell me what you're thinking." See if I answer truthfully again.
After sex:
Her "What are you thinking?"
Me "Nothing."
Her "Don't give me that bullshit, tell me what you're thinking."
Me "You really want to know?"
Her "Yes." cute smile
Me "I'm wondering what an old woman would look like decapitated in a car wreck."

See...you don't really want to know.

Posted by: DeistBrawler at June 11, 2009 3:25 PM

Posted by: DeistBrawler at June 11, 2009 3:25 PM

That sounds exactly like something my pseudo-Mr. would say to me after sex. It's one of the reasons I adore him.

Posted by: Anna von Beaverplatz at June 11, 2009 3:31 PM

Uh,it's just sex.? Yeah, try telling that to my husband. I'm pretty sure he's of the "I'll whip your ass just for asking" ilk. Woody's performance pissed me off too but not because it was just sex but because they act like you couldn't see it coming what it would do to their relationship. I mean who would want to be in a relationship after that? If you're gonna pay a man a million dollars to screw his wife just make it a divorce settlement OK.

Posted by: Phat girl at June 11, 2009 3:34 PM

Ooh, this is going to be one of those reeeaaally polarizing threads that descends first into hostility, then into madness, isn't it?!

AWESOME!

Posted by: Anna von Beaverplatz at June 11, 2009 3:45 PM

". . . since I'd LAST been cheated on" (emphasis mine)

Has this been a recurring problem for you, Rowles? Because you might want to look into that.

Posted by: jimbob at June 11, 2009 3:46 PM

I'll tell you what the basic problem is with this whole premise:

WHO THE HELL is gonna pay a million bucks to bang ANY female, I've yet to see any kind of trim (from streetwalkers to movie stars) that justifies a 100 bucks much less.... a MILLION!

For, Demi Moore!?!?!

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at June 11, 2009 4:00 PM

@ Phat girl: yeah, I know a guy like that. Anybody who made him an offer like that would get pounded into applesauce, and he wouldn't think twice about it.

Posted by: Melodie at June 11, 2009 4:10 PM

I've never seen this movie, but I always thought it would have been more interesting if the gazillionare had been played by someone like Danny DeVito. Or maybe Abe Vigoda. I'm sure they're both swell guys, but they're not Robert Redford.

Posted by: Tranjo at June 11, 2009 4:34 PM

This makes me curious--not about anything in this movie--but what if Robert Redford had been one of Demi Moore's list of five passes?

I mean, sure I say I would totally understand if my husband slept with Monica Bellucci, but would it actually bother me? And on what world would I actually be able to test this out?

Anybody know Monica Bellucci?

Posted by: leuce7 at June 11, 2009 5:07 PM

Remember when a million dollars was a whole lot of money?

Posted by: ceejeemcbeegee at June 11, 2009 5:09 PM

As a couple people have said above, I don't find the premise that ridiculous. I'm not married, so I can't speak from that perspective, but I do know people who are married whose sexual mores would allow something like this in the boundaries of their relationships. Sex is not the be-all, end-all. We often make it out to be, and sometimes that's the net effect of it, but our culture isn't what it used to be in this arena. There are plenty of trusting couples with flexibility in this department that can separate sex from love. Some don't, and that's their choice - more power to them. Whatever works. I realize the couple in this movie couldn't handle it, but to dismiss the premise at face as absurd is incorrect to me.

Posted by: DarthCorleone at June 11, 2009 5:27 PM

Remember when a million dollars was a whole lotta money? Le sigh.

Anyway, I think the premise worked because it WAS Robert Fucking Redford, and Robert Fucking Redford was so damn good at being Robert Fucking Redford makes Woody Harrelson go a lot more insecure than if it were Abe Vigoda or Danny DeVito. Sure, you can get over your wife banging some fat ugly dude because there's no way he'd be better than you, but Robert Fucking Redford? Man, that's some nutsack competition.

Posted by: ceejeemcbeegee at June 11, 2009 6:39 PM

$1 mil? Go right ahead, you two, but I get to watch or no dice.

Posted by: , (the commenter formerly known as bucdaddy) at June 12, 2009 12:10 AM

Dustin, you claim to be a lawyer. The vow says "for richer," am I right?

Am I right?

That's a legally binding contract there, Bucko.

Posted by: , (the commenter formerly known as bucdaddy) at June 12, 2009 12:35 AM

As I recall, the book on which Indecent Proposal was based had the millionaire as an Abe Vigoda/Danny DeVito figure, to hammer home that the wife was screwing him JUST for money. The author was pissed that they changed it.

He was also pissed that they scrapped the husband being Jewish and the millionaire being Arab as well, but that's neither here nor there.

Posted by: Jack at June 12, 2009 2:30 AM

Have you ever been cheated on? There is nothing quite like the emotional pain of learning that someone you love has been fucking someone else.

It's a shame this post and ensuing thread haven't lived up to their potential. I think Dustin's lead was flawed in his attempt to link this movie to real-life-honest-to-God-jackboot-to-the-nuts-what-the-hell-were-you-thinking cheating. Not that farming your spouse out for money isn't fucked up in it's own right, but it really doesn't hold a candle to, say, having your wife go out of town for a "bachelorette party" (complete with corroborating bachelorettes), getting a call from her mother the next day saying that her father fell off a roof and is in the ICU, trying to reach her for hours on end to no avail and ultimately paying through the ass to fly her home early on her discount airline ticket, getting berated by her for not doing more to get her home while her father is in a life-and-death situation -- and then finding out several weeks later that she was shacked up with your lawyer's best friend the whole time. That, my friends, is cheating. God, I miss that lawyer.

Posted by: Che Grovera at June 12, 2009 7:51 AM

@Che - damn. And to all of you who have been cheated on: It SUCKS, I know all too well. BUT...

This isn't cheating. There was no dishonesty, there was no betrayal. If the wife had been a virgin before marrying the guy, fine. I can justify the husband's ick factor there. But really, it's just one more guy, it's consesual, it's an investment!

Posted by: courtney at June 12, 2009 8:11 AM

Jesus. My dear husband just tapped me on the shoulder and said "It's also a sin".

Bite me.

Posted by: courtney at June 12, 2009 8:16 AM

Posted by: Che Grovera at June 12, 2009 7:51 AM

Oh, Che, how I've missed you! I'm so glad you've come home.

Posted by: Anna von Beaverplatz at June 12, 2009 8:59 AM

Che, That could drive a guy to Muppet sex.

Posted by: , (the commenter formerly known as bucdaddy) at June 12, 2009 10:00 AM

Actually had this conversation with Mr. Scorzi a few months ago. He and I differ on the sex for money issue on a lot of levels. After being laid off in January and struggling to find work, I was joking if I had a better body I wouldn't mind working at Hooters or working double shifts at a strip club to get extra cash and then keep looking for a regular job. He got miffed about it.

Mr. Scorzi is 42, I'm 27. He insists it's a generational thing, but I think it might be cultural also (I'm from hippie white stock, he's old-skool latino). He says it's wrong for me to feel that way about my body, but I genuinely have no hang-ups in that sort of desperate situation. It's a means to an end! I'm not a famewhore and I don't post crap about myself on myspace or facebook, but in situations like that, and I know a lot of feminists and women will disagree, to me it IS just sex, even though he insists it's not.
I really WOULD have no problem going with someone, making him wear a condom, having sex, and then collecting my money. I already have a list of bills I'd pay off in my head!

If you're a woman (and even if you're a man) think of the one night stands in college or stuff you did after too many drinks or you felt obligated to just "give in" because he bought you a necklace or dinner or something. It's sad but young girls do it all the time. In no way am I judging, but getting paid to just lay there thinking of groceries I need to buy and did I pay the light bill just to let some guy cum and hand me a suitcase full of money, to me it's no contest.

To have a few moments of unpleasantness that can be cured with therapy or a few beers for a lifetime of bills paid on time and saving for a future, if I was in that movie you'd see us living happily ever after.

Posted by: scorzi at June 12, 2009 11:00 AM

Yay scorzi!

I agree - would be lying through my teeth if I claimed to have been in love with every guy I've ever slept with. Shit, at least this way I could earn some cash. Not saying I would turn it into a career, mind you, but in the VERY unlikely situation that Robert Redford offered me a million bucks to lay there and fake it? Please. Is this really even an argument?

Posted by: courtney at June 12, 2009 11:06 AM

Che, That could drive a guy to Muppet sex.

Posted by: , (the commenter formerly known as bucdaddy) at June 12, 2009 10:00 AM

Nah, I've been friendly with the sock since I was a kid.

Posted by: Che Grovera at June 12, 2009 12:35 PM

Watched and came to a simple conclusion rather quickly. Shake roberts hand tell him to keep the money, shoot woody right in the head, bend demi over the couch hit it and walk away.

Posted by: Didn't care for it at June 12, 2009 8:09 PM

dustin is right on the money with this one. it's human nature. as george said to jerry ...." i want details " ...

Posted by: snake at June 16, 2009 1:24 AM

When the movie came out I asked by wife if she would sleep with someone for a million dollars. She said no she would not. I told her that I had better not find out she turned down a million dollars. In reality, this is not likely to ever be an issue and either or both of our positions might change if it were a possibility.

Please try to remember that calling sex with someone other than your spouse "cheating" is just a cultural norm. There are cultures where it is the norm, and there are plenty of "swingers" in our society.

Posted by: chuckv at July 4, 2009 2:29 PM