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I Know There's Better Brothers, But You're The Only One That's Mine

By TK | Posted Under TV Reviews | Comments (48)



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Three minutes.

It took three minutes to get completely sucked in by this week’s episode of “The Walking Dead.” I know we’re only three episodes into the season of Frank Darabont’s televised adaptation of Robert Kirkman’s graphic novel series, but that’s still damn impressive, especially given how engaging the past two episodes have been. And yet, the opening three minutes, featuring a sun-blasted, injured, half-crazed and near-bestial Merle (Michael Rooker), handcuffed to a pipe on a building rooftop as the undead hordes begin beating at the door, were some of the most genuinely affecting and riveting television I’ve ever seen. Just like that, I knew we were in for a ride.

The third episode, “Tell It To The Frogs,” was one of those episodes where, on the surface, very little happened. The major event was, of course, former police office Rick Grimes (Andrew Lincoln) finally reuniting with his family — wife Lori (Sarah Wayne Callies) and son Carl (Chandler Riggs). The show continues its technique of picking up immediately after the prior episode ends, creating a seamless, breathless continuity between showings. Rick and his new-found allies return to camp, and the reunion was so painfully poignant, the jagged emotionalism so intense, that at times you almost wanted to look away. Rick, exhausted and harried, clutches at his family as if he fears they’d disappear into smoke. Carl sobs with joy. Lori is filled with some complicated, awful amalgam of shock, fear, love, joy, and of course, guilt. And Shane looks on with a terrible mix of confusion, resentment, happiness and a more stomach-gnawing version of Lori’s guilt. His brother has returned, and his lover is thus lost.

“Tell It To The Frogs” is exactly what we’d hoped for since the rumors of the show came about. This episode wasn’t about zombies, but rather about family and brotherhood; the ties that bind and the ugly mistakes that corrode through them. No less powerful than Rick and family’s reunion was the reunion of Rick and Shane, though far more bittersweet given Shane’s transgressions that we later discover. Another couple from this survivor’s enclave, Ed (Adam Minarovich) and Carol (Melissa Suzanne McBride) add the complicated dynamic of a dysfunctional, abusive relationship. Andrea (Laurie Holden) and her sister Amy (Emma Bell) are brought back together. And finally, and most dangerously, we meet Merle’s equally unhinged younger brother Daryl (Norman Reedus), full of bitterness and a distaste for the company he’s forced to keep, turned to near psychotic fury and hate as he learns that his brother was not only abandoned, but potentially left to die.

All of it was beautifully woven together into one strand that showed the numerous and labyrinthine ways that family affects us, especially in times of crisis. The regular players — Rick, Lori, and Shane, were as outstanding as usual, with Callies’ Lori finally demonstrating some range of emotion beyond either shrill or lusty. But the standouts, and what may well prove to be the most compelling characters, were Rooker’s Merle and Reedus’ Daryl. Reedus portrays Daryl with a kind of visceral, raw power that makes the character far more than another stereotypical hillbilly. Feeling no bonds with this accidental extended family, his brother is all he has, and the possibility of losing him is devastating. His character is a grade-A asshole, but when he learns of Merle’s fate, it’s a testament to Darabont and company that you find yourself empathizing with him, feeling his anger and impotent rage.

The zombies are barely there. The one prominent walker is particularly horrific, with its grayed flesh and rotted mouth, but it serves a purpose beyond horror. It’s a transition to introduce new characters and to show both his strength, and the others’ potential weaknesses. It’s another indication of the genius of the show. It also succeeds by showing us the little things — people immediately and efficiently cannibalizing automobiles for parts, bartering with each other for tools and weaponry, using primitive methods to keep themselves clean — all ways that this little society is forced to regress in order to continue surviving. Finally and most interestingly, the burgeoning gender dynamics at play provide yet another layer of dramatic depth.

As impressive as the premiere was, “Tell It To The Frogs” is the most affecting and powerful episode so far, portending great and terrible things. We’ve learned of the carnage that has occurred, the chaos the dead have created. Now, it’s time to show what the lingering aftereffects of their unexplained presence on the living will be. Will people gather together, or tear each other apart? Will they run and hide, stand and fight, lay down and die? Or will they, like Merle trapped on that rooftop, do literally anything to survive?

TK writes about music and movies. He enjoys playing with dogs, raising the dead, and tacos. You can email him here.









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Comments

this show just keeps getting better and better. I can't wait for season 2!!

Posted by: BigTodd at November 16, 2010 1:58 PM

Merle's predicament at the beginning, particularly his acknowledgement that he is deserving of punishment, were amazing, shocking and particularly refreshing in a time when so few people deflect blame for their actions. The episode captivated me from there on.

I have nitpicked a number of errors from the first two episodes, but the intensity this week was at such a level that I couldn't catch anything. I absolutely hope the remainder of this season carries on in such a manner.

Next Sunday night cannot get here quick enough.

Posted by: lubeg at November 16, 2010 2:12 PM

I thought this episode was great.


I really like the way they handling the Rick/Lori/Shane situation. First, they've made Shane very likeable. He's not only the "leader" of the group and seems responsible for holding everyone together, he's pretty charming, funny and obviously has a lot of genuine effection for Lori and Carl. In everyway he seems a much better husband and father than Rick. And he knows this. He sees it and it's driving him crazy. Rick wasn't back for one day before he and Lori were going at it again. The whole exchange between the two had a very familiar vibe to it, as if this the type of stuff that they argued about over and over again. Rick feeling some sort of responsibility for something or other and willing to ignore his family to do it. Shane sees what Rick has, obviously wants it, and must be thinking, "What's wrong with him? How can he do this to them? I'd never do this. He's doesn't care about them like I do."

So, taking it back to the beginning. I do believe that Shane really thought Rick was dead. He wasn't 100% sure, but probably saw the condition of the hospital, made some attempt to get information, knew it had gone to shit and then told Lori and Carl Rick was dead. I believe he did that for both selfish reasons and to help them. If he had said, "I don't know, he may be alive" or, "I think they airlifted him to Atlanta", that lingering feeling of "He could still be alive!" would torture Carl and Lori. It would make it hard on them and, of course, harder on Shane to become the husband/father figure he so desperately wants. I am sure Shane even talked himself into believing that Rick really was dead.

I am not sure the fact that he lied to Lori absolves her. I think her reaction to him, her whole "Stay away from me and Carl!" rebuke was partially as a result of being pissed at him and partially a result of being pissed at herself. I think she feels some anguish about how quickly she was able to get over Rick's "death" and how much good she saw in Shane.

I hope they keep it that nuanced. Shane was never that compelling or interesting of a character in the comic. I really like him in the series. I think his intentions were more noble than not, though it is a bit hard to get over what he did. It will be interesting to see how it all plays out.

Posted by: FordbiddenDonut at November 16, 2010 2:14 PM

Huge points for the Murder By Death lyrics...

I watch this show weekly and totally geek out when its on. As a testament to its awesomeness, my parents even love it and they arent exactly fond of the zombie genre.

Posted by: Lennon at November 16, 2010 2:15 PM

I especially enjoyed the encounter at the quarry with Carol's husband. In the comic, she makes mention of him, but we never actually meet him. Actually getting to see him abuse and mistreat her is so much stronger and does so much more to develop their characters. Truly a fine example of "show, don't tell."

And it will be so much sweeter when he meets his end next episode (that's not a spoiler, just a guess -- relax).

Posted by: superasente at November 16, 2010 2:15 PM

That final scene was a real kicker.

Posted by: John W at November 16, 2010 2:20 PM

I especially liked the fact that at night the Ed/Carol family was sitting apart from the others. There was no happy campground vibe. It was a great way of showing that this is a community by necessity not choice.

I do have two gripes however.

1. Daryl is hunting deer with the same bows he uses to kill zombies. If he doesn't sterilize them each time, they're going to be eating zombie virus and all be undead within a week.

2. Please let some of the women start showing roots and less well-styled hair. Nothing pisses me off more in apocalyptic scenarios than perfect dyed hair syndrome.

Posted by: PaddyDog at November 16, 2010 2:21 PM

I really could do without the redneck assholes. As much as I like Rooker and Reedus, it is just so rote. And Shane should have just shot Ed. What a piece of shit. That beatdown was glorious and made me like Shane even more. But the Ed character is annoying and stereotypical. Of course the rednecks have to survive. There is always conflict with the rednecks in these end of the world stories. Just strikes me as lazy.

I don't know. The show is good, but it's also shaky where they are deviating from the book. I only read each one once, but the new characters are really sticking out. From what I can remember. And it was just stupid of Glen to drive all the way up to camp with out disabling the alarm. One of the guys in the van could have figured that one out.

Posted by: TylerDFC at November 16, 2010 2:28 PM

So, did Merle saw his hand off? Wouldn't it have been easier to saw through the links? Or it cutting off your hand motivated by spite?

We paused and there didn't seem to be any blood on the saw...and hard to tell from the camera angle, but it still seemed out of reach.

Why isn't it next week already!

Posted by: Craig at November 16, 2010 2:34 PM

@Craig: They showed the severed hand lying on the ground...

Posted by: MM at November 16, 2010 2:40 PM

My guess is that it's easier (in terms of time and resistance, not pain) to cut through flesh and bone rather than whatever metal they make handcuffs from. If time is of the essence, then the wrist is the way to go.

Posted by: PaddyDog at November 16, 2010 2:40 PM

If it was motivated by spite, he'd have cut off his nose.

Posted by: PaddyDog at November 16, 2010 2:41 PM

Alternate title for this post:

The Zombie Apocalypse: I Miss My Vibrator

Posted by: MM at November 16, 2010 2:51 PM

Isn't the name of the actor who plays "Rick" Andrew Lincoln and not Andrew Garfield? Not to nitpick or anything....

Great episode, though. Can't wait for this coming Sunday.

Posted by: Milo at November 16, 2010 2:53 PM

You gotta love Presidential Freudian slips.

Posted by: PaddyDog at November 16, 2010 2:56 PM

TylerDFC,

the reason we see rednecks surviving is because a lot of them hillbillies know how to live off the land. All the high thinking people would be lost in a situation like this. The way I see it there would be 3 large groups of people survivng the zombie apocolypse; Rednecks, Military, and those nuts that make even tea-party people say damn. Sure there will be a bit others hanging around like we see on this show but not large groups of them.

Posted by: BigTodd at November 16, 2010 3:03 PM

My son and I were breathlessly awaiting this show....we've been Tivo'ing it. mr. dammit just happened to be sitting with us as we watched "Guts" and was IMMEDIATELY sucked in. Sunday night, as we lay in bed, ready to sleep, he turns on the TV and says, I know you're already taping this, but we're watching it now.

Yeah, it's that good.

Posted by: dammitjanet at November 16, 2010 3:07 PM

ForbiddenDonut: WOW! Our interpretations of Shane couldn't be more disparate if we tried. I can't stand him, I haven't been able to stomach him since the exchange between he and Rick in their squad car at the beginning of the first episode.

After this week's episode his motives seem entirely selfish, to me. In the context of what he said to Rick while they ate lunch I get the sense that he's less interested in protecting Lorie and Carl and more concerned with extricating her from her undergarments.

I was not, however, prepared for the subtle tension which would evolve between the three characters. I honestly didn't want to see this love triangle / affair business play out as it seems contrived and weak to me. But played against Shane's unswerving devotion to survival - which is how I interpret his motives, focused on his OWN capacity to get from day to day, not providing for the ability of others to do so - in contrast to Rick's devotion to order and his moral compass the situation is more intriguing and I'm far more interested in the goings on of the affair than I was two weeks ago.

To me Shane personifies a capacity only to survive. Rick provides hope for a long term solution, the ability to revitalize an evolved civilization from the ashes of this collapse.

I suppose the important question, then, is which philosophy is best suited for life after the apocalypse.

Posted by: lubeg at November 16, 2010 3:31 PM

They need to raid a sporting goods store and grab a bunch more of those crossbows.

Posted by: DarthCorleone at November 16, 2010 3:49 PM

One of the most interesting aspects of the community is the make-up. There are very few children (3 or 4?), two couples, four single men and if my count is right, three single women. At a certain point abstinence and monogamy probably won't be viable. Will Shane turn his attentions to the other women? Will White people and Black people pair up? I know that's a loaded question, but we are talking about Southerners and in my experience that's still an issue in many places. In my immediate ultra liberal urban neighborhood, I know of only one Black-White couple and they're from the UK where it's much more common. And what of the female child who seems a little older than the others? Will she be a target for some of the men?

Posted by: PaddyDog at November 16, 2010 3:54 PM

I completely agree with how gripping the first few minutes were. Even if the acting wasn't stellar (which it was) the zombies on this show blow me away every. single. time. The shots of them trying to come through the door were amazing.

At first I wasn't entirely on board with this show, I thought the pacing would be too slow and the characters too few but by episode 2 I was completely hooked and SO SAD that this is only a 6 episode season.

I'm so glad they didn't drag out the reunion between Grimes and his family and the ending to this episode was fanstastic. I'm also deeply concerned about all the racism and misogyny going on during the zombie apocalypse. Something to watch out for I guess.

Posted by: valerie at November 16, 2010 3:59 PM

Paddy, I'm in ATL, and there's plenty of mixed-race couples here. They're still going to be rare in the country clubs, but among the other strata of society, it's not shocking any longer.

I like Shane, and Lori is the one I'm having trouble liking. She may be motivated by guilt, but she's seems shockingly self-unaware. I don't have any trouble believing that Shane would take an interest in helping his partner/friend's family survive, but being practical enough to know that a comatose guy in the hospital is probably a goner.

Posted by: Wednesday at November 16, 2010 4:02 PM

Wednesday:

I agree completely with your take on Lori. She switched a little too quickly from passionately into Shane back to Rick's wife. She's an absolute survivalist in my opinion and will switch to whatever guy is going to look after her. I'm also amazed, despite the forays into the woods, that none of the rest of the group knew what was going on or even lifted an eyebrow when Rick came back. You always know when two members of a group are fooling around.

Posted by: PaddyDog at November 16, 2010 4:09 PM

So many thoughts from this episode:

- I like the redneck brothers because they display a fundamental truth about our society -- there's many different elements and we don't all get along/like each other. But in a zombie apocalypse scenario, the choice is unite or die.

- Intriguingly Merle was no longer at the roof. Where did he go? Was he airlifted by the mysterious chopper?

- As for Lori & Shane: I'm still questioning the timeline of events. Even if Rick has been out of commission for 6 months or so, the end of civilization is doubtful to be the time to make a relationship blossom out of nothing. There had to be some feelings between Lori and Shane -- if not more.

It felt like Lori was feeling tremendous guilt for getting over her husband's death and shacking up with her best friend. As I told my brother while we watched, the moment Lori and Rick were in bed was the moment when Lori should have opened up and admitted to her relationship with Shane. Explain that she thought him dead and gone and that, in times of great stress, we rely on those next to us.

Instead, this is now going to be the secret that will eat at them until shit goes sour.

Posted by: Fredo at November 16, 2010 4:14 PM

@Paddy:

particularly when these people spend time in the same small group and sleep in the same tent.

Or was Shane sleeping by himself in another tent?

Posted by: Fredo at November 16, 2010 4:15 PM

I don't have any trouble believing that Shane would take an interest in helping his partner/friend's family survive, but being practical enough to know that a comatose guy in the hospital is probably a goner.

Posted by: Wednesday at November 16, 2010 4:02 PM

I can certainly understand his pragmatism and desire to survive. I can see how Shane could evolve either way - a sleaze who capitalized on Rick's predicament or a genuinely concerned best friend trying to do all he could to protect people he has come to love.

I lean toward "sleaze" right now because of his snap reaction to Ed at the end of this week's episode. He certainly responded in excess at least partially out of guilt and shame but also perhaps out of selfish anger. That response was in stark contrast to the more measured action he took against Daryl. Granted, the circumstances which catalyzed each response were drastically different, but I felt like Shane's response to Ed conveyed more his tendency to lash out abusively when he doesn't get his own way and less his devotion to loved ones or hostility toward someone who hits women.

And, of course, I could be COMPLETELY wrong, too. :)

Posted by: lubeg at November 16, 2010 4:19 PM

In regards Shane and Lori: I am more in agreement with lubeg than Forbiddendonut. Dont care for Shane a bit! But that is motivated less by what he has done and more by how the show is portraying what he has done, so far. He comes across as covetous and coniving, at least as far and Lori and Carl go.

I am trying to reserve judgement on his character motivations until I actually hear his motivations. He did not try to defend his actions during that episode.

Was he truly trying to spare Lori and Carl the anguish, while setting himself up to be the husband stand in he feels they deserve.

Or was he simply being slimey and knew that Rick was alive, didnt try to save him, lied to his family and wormed his way into Lori's affections because he has always harbored a secret desire to be Lori's wife and Carl's Dad?

Also, I would love to know how much time has past since the beginning of the outbreak and the time that Rick woke up. Seems like a short interval due to the state of decomp of the bodies on the dock.

Hopefully these and many more answers will be coming in the next 3 weeks before it goes off the AIR.

Posted by: wolf at November 16, 2010 4:21 PM

Paddy:

I wouldn't be so quick to assume that no one else in the group didn't know what was going on. I am going to re-watch the episode some time this week, since Mrs. Donut was out of town on Sunday, to see if there were any reaction shots. Still, it's really only been less than 24 hours since Rick got back and turned around and left again and since anyone knew that Rick was Lori's thought-to-be-dead husband. Given Shane's role as leader of the group and a basic understanding that Rick and Shane were buds back in the day, it may take a little while before someone goes up to Rick and says, "Uh, Rick. FYI... Your best friend and wife were knockin' boots while they thought you were dead. Just figured you should know that."

I wouldn't be surprised if someone brings it up at some point.

I am a little more sympathetic to Lori. Yes, she was pretty passionately into Shane. He seems to be everything that Rick isn't. Maybe she was so passionate about him to try and ease her pain/guilt about Rick. Maybe it was because she thought it would be the best for her and Carl, given Shane was the head honcho. Maybe she really liked him.

I think her switch was motivated by two things: 1) Guilt and 2) a feeling of betrayal by Shane, since he was the one who told her Rick was dead. She feels guilty for cheating on Rick, guilty for believing Rick was dead, perhaps even guilty for believing it so readily and being so passionate with Shane and then, of course, she'd lash out and blame all of this on Shane, even if she thinks she's also somewhat culpable. It's a pretty typical and understandable reaction to the situation.

Posted by: FordbiddenDonut at November 16, 2010 4:22 PM

@wolf:

Don't go by the state of decomp of the dock bodies. Like most outbreaks, we can assume this started small and grew exponentially as more and more people were infected. It doesn't all fall apart in a day. There could have been an organized response for several weeks before the balance shifted to more zombies than humans. It's realistic that a hospital would be one of the first institutions to be under military guard and one of the last to fall. Therefore, the bodies on the loading dock would not be the first dead, but some of the last dead. I assume the virus was in birds/rodents prior to humans given the opening scenes from episode one and that it either species-jumped or some humans ate contaminated food. Let's assume the incubation period is about eight-to-ten hours (since we saw Rick wake up at night after being knocked out by the kid and they were watching his fever spike to see if he'd turn), that would give several weeks, possibly even a few months of epidemic growth and attempts to curtail it within populations before things got out of control.
Not that I've thought about this too much or anything.

Posted by: PaddyDog at November 16, 2010 4:38 PM

@paddydog Actually I'm pretty sure that's exactly what it means lol.

I hate both Lori and Shane. Shane's affection for both Lori and Carl felt forced at times (including that prolonged shitty "I'ma teach you how to catch frogs" which he obviously has no expertise in), and Lori should've told Rick right from the get-go.

Lastly, I have to say it is 100 % obvious Merle cut his own hand off. There's blood on the saw, on the cuff, and the dismembered hand definitely wasn't chewed off. Merle will be making another appearance in this show for sure.

Posted by: aroorda at November 16, 2010 5:26 PM

aroorda, the problem is where did he go? the door was still locked from the otherside. I have no doubt we'll see him again, but how did he escape?

Posted by: BigTodd at November 16, 2010 5:34 PM

@ BigTodd idk there were nearby roofs and billboards? The thing is the door didn't look "knocked in" by zombies or anything, which makes me think Merle somehow cut his hand off and fled. And me and my brother were talking and it seems much smarter to use the hacksaw to go through your own fleshy wrist than use it to try and cut through the reinforced steel handcuffs.

Even if Merle was eaten, we'll get a shot of him as a zombie with his brother having to kill him if that's what happened. Otherwise Merle will have his revenge. "I haven't picked you my whole life, I ain't gonna start now," (whilst talkin to God.) Can only see Merle surviving but still just as intent on killing both Rick and the black dude.

Posted by: aroorda at November 16, 2010 5:45 PM

well according to mad max cutting through your wrist is the way to go but seems to me that the dept store had alleys on both sides... perhaps fire escape? Dead or alive you'd think there would be a lot more blood.

Posted by: BigTodd at November 16, 2010 5:56 PM

Lubeg and ForbiddenDonut,

you are both right. And the fact that you are both right is what makes this show so unlike anything there is. "The Walking Dead" is not just the tits, it's the whole fuck. The whole fucking fuck.

Posted by: schmerpes at November 16, 2010 6:35 PM

I didn't read through all the comments, but I question the sawing off of your hand... unless it was pure fear, he could've taken the time to saw off the handcuffs or the rusty steel he was chained to. Those things weren't getting in the door and its obvious they didnt get through because the door was still locked when the rescue party got there.

So where did the crazy guy with one hand run off to? (looked like we'd find out in the next ep)

Posted by: BAM at November 16, 2010 6:37 PM

The lack of blood bugged me too. And Merle's hand looked too perfect, albeit dead.

When Rick and Carl ran at each other and Rick cried, I just sobbed my eyes out - and then wondered why in the hell a zombie show was making me cry. I steeled myself pretty quickly though, seething over Lori's bullshit. Crappy mother and crappy wife.

Posted by: Cindy at November 16, 2010 8:41 PM

It's possible the hacksaw had the wrong kind of blade for cutting through tempered steel handcuffs or pipes.

My problem is that Merle cut off his entire hand. Would've been as effective -- and less crippling -- to cut off his thumb, then slide the rest of his hand through the cuff. Less dramatic for them to find a thumb lying on the roof, though...

Posted by: Bates at November 16, 2010 10:16 PM

Great seriers.

As for Lori and Shane and Rick and Carl.....

While having their first "night together" in the tent (with Carl in there as well, presumably sleeping)....did anyone catch Lori, while Rick was getting intimate, tell Rick that "dont worry, he never wakes up"?

So, if my ears are working correctly, that means that Lori and Shane have been screwing in front of sleeping Carl for a while now.

Poor Rick.

Posted by: Gigantor at November 16, 2010 11:12 PM

@Gigantor - good catch!

I love the whole dynamic of this episode. My only gripe is that Lorie goes from calm to furious at Shane with little development - Shane taking Carl frog hunting (and out of Dale's sight) seems to be the only thing to push her to anger.

I do love how Shane vents his frustrations on Ed. Someone pointed out the different between that and how he subdues Darryl, and one thing tha comes to mind is Darryl was attacking Rick and Shane, where Ed was attacking Carol. Maybe his father/husband instincts shifted, with Lorie and carl out of the picture, to the next female he could protect?

Not that anyone minded an abusive husband getting the shit kicked out of him, whatever the reason.

Merle's severed hand was easy to see coming from even last episode, but it does set up his future perfectly. Will he be out for vengeance? Was he rescued? Or will they find a one-handed corpse (or zombie) later on?

In "Guts," Glen and Rick make their way up a pretty tall ladder along one building - it's not impossible that Merle's rooftop had a ladder or fire escape as well (anyone want to watch episode 2 again and take notes, when Glen's looking for manholes?)

Posted by: Markus at November 17, 2010 6:58 AM

I'm totally with DarthCorleone on this. For some reason I get a huge kick out of seeing people in apocalyptic scenarios loot and pillage the vestiges of civilization. Perhaps it's the inner Vandal in me (or Visigoth if you prefer).

Don't tell me nobody else loved the grocery store scene in 28 Days Later (or Zombieland for that matter), or when Rob Lowe's character in The Stand busted into an intact and pristine drug store for one (1) bottle of Pepto.

In the comic the loot a nearby gun store and manage to stock up enough so that everybody has something. That totally needs to happen. Rick's bag-o-guns just wouldn't cut it by itself.

Posted by: ASterisk at November 17, 2010 8:05 AM

did anyone catch Lori, while Rick was getting intimate, tell Rick that "dont worry, he never wakes up"?

Yep, and I was looking for a subtle hint that Rick caught it, too (being as law-enforcement types are pretty good at picking up on verbal gaffes such as that), but I didn't see anything like that in his face.

Posted by: Rykker at November 17, 2010 11:01 AM

Merle could totally cut through the rusty bolt that he was attached to much faster than either his hand or the handcuffs. As rusty as that bolt was, it wouldn't have taken more than a couple minutes. technically, he wouldn't even have had to go through the whole thing, just cut a little bit and then give it a good whack to split it.

Posted by: chad at November 17, 2010 12:59 PM

Too bad Merle was going more than a little crazy up on that roof, was tired, hungry, dehyrdated and had, at least, three zombies growling and snapping their teeth at him and trying to barge through the door to eat him.

I don't think Merle was thinking too straight by the time he finally got the hacksaw.

It will be interesting to see if he's either dead (and they didn't show the body) or still alive. How long could he live on his own in zombie-filled Atlanta after sawing off his own hand?

Posted by: FordbiddenDonut at November 17, 2010 1:16 PM

What if Merle didn't cut through his hand? What if the helicopter that Rick saw circling, spotted him on the roof, came down and carried out a surgical cut to the wrist before spiriting him away....to a military place where he can stock up on weapons and become an almighty threat to the community in the woods?

Posted by: PaddyDog at November 17, 2010 1:17 PM

Lubeg and ForbiddenDonut,

you are both right. And the fact that you are both right is what makes this show so unlike anything there is. "The Walking Dead" is not just the tits, it's the whole fuck. The whole fucking fuck.

Posted by: schmerpes at November 16, 2010 6:35 PM

I couldn't agree with you more! Discussion of this show is the best part :)

Posted by: lubeg at November 17, 2010 1:29 PM

It will be interesting to see if he's either dead (and they didn't show the body) or still alive. How long could he live on his own in zombie-filled Atlanta after sawing off his own hand?

Posted by: FordbiddenDonut at November 17, 2010 1:16 PM

The first thing which occurred to me was, "How did he get off that roof with only one hand if he didn't use the stairs?"

Posted by: lubeg at November 17, 2010 1:30 PM

I'm w/ Tyler on how the show's been going...don't mind it deviating from the comic but it's kinda deviating in the wrong ways, starting w/ Racist McStereotype and his crazy brother. These last two eps have not come near in matching the power of the pilot IMO. Though I agree that the first scene w/ Merle was intense, and maybe a way of fleshing out his heretofore one-note character when he makes his inevitable return. I still have high hopes for the rest of the season, but I'm a little disappointed right now w/ how it's been shaking out.

And I don't like Shane, either. I think he's a bullying control freak.

Posted by: stryker1121 at November 17, 2010 10:35 PM

Long-time lurker, first-time poster.

First I need to gush a little bit. I LOVE this show and I have hooked my wife and 13 y.o. on it as well. Durng ep.1 when they talked about the rescue center in Atlanta I paused to tell my son what a bad idea that was and before I could open my mouth he looked at me and said "that's a terrible idea." (I was so proud I almost teared up...)

down to business:

Lori should feel guilty. She didn't even wait until Rick was zombie poop (metaphorically speaking) before bumping uglies with Shane. Shame on them both but especially her. I thought it would have been a nice touch if she'd reached for the necklace with Rick's ring on it only to realize it was still on the gound, in the woods next to where her faceprint was left in the dirt.


Not to defend Shane either but there is a lot of difference between "He's dead, let's get busy" and "He's dead let's get out of here before we get eaten". I'd like to know which version occurred.

One final note for AMC, don't go all "Sopranos" on us and wait 18 months between seasons. 6 episodes followed by 13 episodes ALMOST equals one season. Don't screw with us on this.

Posted by: midas89 (heavy) at November 18, 2010 12:46 PM