"The Walking Dead" - "Arrow On The Doorpost": My Compassion Is Broken Now, My Will Is Eroded Now
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"The Walking Dead" - "Arrow On The Doorpost": My Compassion Is Broken Now, My Will Is Eroded Now

By TK | TV Reviews | March 12, 2013 | Comments ()


Last week’s episode of “The Walking Dead,” “Clear,” was one of the more inspired episodes the show has given us, an episode many (myself included) think was one of the best in the entire series. It was a strong, impressive departure from a storyline that started off as powerful and intriguing but has often reduced itself to drudgery for the second half of this season. It sent a signal that perhaps the show was going to refocus its energies and regain some of the tremendous momentum that it had come raging out of the gate with back in October.

Alas, this was not to be as this week’s episode, “Arrow On The Doorpost” fell victim to the very same mistakes that have plagued the show since its return from midseason break (“Clear” notwithstanding). Instead of regaining momentum, it was a brutally slow, plodding affair that is guilty of the exact same sin that brought down “I Ain’t A Judas” — namely, the events of the episode rendered the entire exercise completely pointless. It was yet another episode where nothing happened, where everything at the end was exactly as it was at the beginning. A show like “The Walking Dead” is a show that relies on change — changes of circumstance, of setting, of character. Living and dying, battling for survival, learning who to trust — these are the things that made this show great. Yet this episode demonstrated none of those traits, and instead simply settled for jamming itself firmly in neutral and grinding the gears for 45 minutes.

Some may say that the issue of trust was brought to the forefront by the meeting between Rick and The Governor. Yet the entire meeting and its ensuing discourse was so forced, so farcically and obviously manufactured, that it ended up being more frustrating than anything. Is there any viewer on this planet who believed for a second that it would end in some sort of post-apocalyptic Pax Romana? This season has constructed its entire existence on this air of violent inevitability, that a war is coming between the prison and Woodbury, that bloodshed was on the horizon and it would be epic and tragic. To even bother with such a pretense felt like nothing less than a waste of time.

Yet all of that could have been forgiven if the scene had been more well-developed. It’s painfully clear that it was meant to be a sort of acting showcase for Rick and The Governor, and by association, Andrew Lincoln and David Morrissey. Both are capable actors, and both have had outstanding moments in this show, but what they were given here simply couldn’t be salvaged. Morrissey’s suddenly hammy depiction of the Governor (drumming his hands on the table and then “I brought whiskey!” made me cringe), and a discussion that was full of purposeless, trope-ridden dialogue about trust and protecting the ones you love when it was already clear that they were wasting their respective breath — it was all just so pitilessly boring. That was the greatest crime of the episode, really — it was simply dull.

Actually, no. That’s not true. The greatest crime of the episode, nay, the entire season, was Andrea. Andrea has become hands-down the worst character on the show. Now that Michonne finally has a personality and speaks in complete (and often entertaining) sentences, Andrea is really the only person on the show that I genuinely loathe. Her character, once a strong-willed, intelligent, complex and conflicted woman, has devolved into someone who is, quite frankly, a fucking simpleton. What could once have been construed as naivete is now willful ignorance with a dash of outright stupidity, and her pathetic attempts to broker a peace are so painfully, shamefully overdramatic that it’s barely watchable. Her divided loyalties are nonsensical and her inner conflicts verge on buffoonish. Laurie Holden is a capable actress, but even the most gifted actress in television couldn’t salvage the absolute quagmire of neurotic, melodramatic pathos that Andrea has been written into.

There were a couple of small bright spots, all separate from the main storyline, and mostly involving the Dixon brothers. Daryl’s encounter with Martinez (played with a refreshingly dry wit and arrogance by Jose Pablo Cantillo) was note-perfect, two men bursting with machismo who slowly enter into a begrudging respect for each other. Their interactions were fun and interesting and demonstrated something that the show has, for reasons unknown, not bothered to do much of until now — which is show us the similarities between the two groups. That’s one of the critical pieces that have been missing in many ways, and it wasn’t really even noticed until this week — the best way to have this conflict feel more real and affecting is to show just how much they have in common. Sure, there was that early commonality between The Governor and Rick, but The Governor has drifted further and further into cartoonish villainy as the season’s progressed. Yet here was a true parallel — in another life, in another set of circumstances, Daryl is Martinez and vice-versa. Two mostly good guys with serious flaws who found their way into a group that needed protection, with a leader that needed a strong arm (a similar parallel was drawn, though slightly less effectively, with the men of science - Herschel and Milton).

As for Merle, bringing him back into the fold was one of the show’s better decisions. The group sometimes feels like it functions best when it has a malcontent in its ranks, and there’s no one better at the part than Michael Rooker. His altercation with Glenn — and subsequently Michonne and Maggie and even Beth (who had a moment of being interesting!) was prime scenery-chewing, yet all grounded in the one thing that has always driven Merle — survival, and his love for his brother. It’s riveting to watch, and his later conversation with Michonne, a discussion with arguably two of the toughest bastards in the group, was equally engaging. That Merle is so singleminded that he thinks nothing of attempting an alliance with a woman he repeatedly belittles and berates — and once tried to kill — is remarkable, made more so by how credibly Rooker passes it off.

I’d talk about Glenn and Maggie mending their fence, but it bothered me more than I care to admit. I liked their conversation, and Maggie forcing Glenn to confront his own selfishness and take ownership of his own blindness, but their sex scene was so contrived and tacky and frankly foolish in the face of the current situation that it smacked of little more than lurid titillation.

Arrow On The Doorpost was a perfect demonstration of some of the worst elements of this season. It was another episode where the writers tried to con the viewers into thinking they’d seen something exciting, some sort of dramatic tour de force full of conflict and complexity. Yet the entire story, from the peace talks to the Governor’s demand of Michonne to Rick’s absolutely idiotic consideration of the offer, all are predicated on the idea that we as viewers are dumb enough to think, even for a second, that this is the direction the show might be headed. We know it’s not. It never would. It would destroy all of the work that has been put into this season thus far, and not only that, it would be boring and anticlimactic and totally contrary to who these people are. Episodes like Arrow On The Doorpost erode my will to keep watching, and damage my ability to empathize with the characters that I usually enjoy so much. The show has built up enough goodwill to keep most viewers going, but these painful stumbles surely do make it difficult.

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  • RebelSoldier707

    God damn it Walking Dead, stahp having these wheel turning episodes
    WHERE NOTHING HAPPENS AND THERE IS NO CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT!!!! There is a reason 13 episodes a season works better than 22 episodes a season. Less filler more story! One would have thought that with all the material they have with the comics, they would have made all 16 episodes worthwhile, not most.

    And what the fuck happened to Tyreese?
    Almost as if it's "here today, gone tomorrow," kind of bullshit...
    Speaking of... FUCKING ANDREA!!! She's turning into the new Lori... Gah,
    what a terrible character de-evolution.

    On the other hand, tip of the hat to the Justified´╗┐ writers. I figured out who Drew Thompson was a few episodes ago, but damn, well done, I say. Really liking this season so far, except for one lil problem... FUCKING JOHNNY!!! God damn it, it's hard to hate a crippled character, but when the cripple is
    being a little bitch nugget... Switching sides more than Andrea, and
    less useful.

  • Uriah_Creep

    New rule: No nookie during watch. OK?

  • John G.

    This is only a "filler" episode if you're watching it episodically. Most TV drama now is designed for marathoning it on DVD/streaming. After it's initial run episodically, it will live much longer as a single piece. In a movie, you don't need a cliff hanger or a big plot-point every ten minutes. In the new style of creating content, a season of a show is like one continuous arc, which is ten hours long.

    That being said, last weeks episode was absolutely fantastic, character-driven and slow without being at all slow, so this episode really doesn't get that excuse. But I'm gonna go ahead and blame in on Andrea.

  • DarthCorleone

    Many of you have already said it, but I'll say it again.

    Why didn't Rick just try to kill The Governor? The only feasible explanation I can come up with is that the firefight would have risked the lives of his companions outside with Martinez there, but that's just not good enough. Going in, it was even possible that Rick didn't know everything The Governor has done and perhaps could give him a little bit of latitude, but then he states up front that he finally knows all about what happened in Woodbury with Michonne? And perhaps it follows he even knows about Maggie? This is SO stupid, it's completely contrary to Rick's character up until now, and it's worse than anything they've done with Andrea. It's a classic writing blunder of being true to the plot that you pre-created as opposed to letting the characters you've evolved act naturally and credibly.

    So, whatever. I'll let it go. Rick wasn't in the mood for killing that day. He was trying to behave for Andrea's sake. He's going to drag this out and possibly jeopardize his friends' lives in the process. BUT THEN...he monologues about how even if he gives up Michonne, The Governor will probably attempt to kill them all anyway. (A correct inference, by the way, as we learn in the parallel Woodbury scene.) And yet he makes what would seem to be a sincere argument (we have no reason to believe it wasn't) to Hershel about surrendering her regardless?!?

    Epitome of stupidity. Man, I should have pursued a television writing career.

    On a note unrelated to my rant, I'm wondering if there's still a possibility that Merle is a mole. My speculation about that could veer into spoiler territory based on the comic (even though Merle isn't in the comic), so I'll just leave it at that.

  • I think Rick is acting out of character--at least what we know about him via the show--all around, so...well, I don't know what that means. But I took his not making an attempt at this particular moment more as Rick being careful and sizing up the situation. Like a) maybe he had a feeling about the Governor sitting at that table and/or this particular meeting being a set up to kill him, and b) Rick wanted to see what the Governor had to say, size him up for the end game, appear to be going along with/thinking about this "deal," letting the Governor think he's got the upper hand and setting him up for the fall. He'd rather take the Governor by surprise and be in control of the situation (I believe).

    And I don't believe for one second that Merle would be a mole, if only because of Daryl.

  • DarthCorleone

    Yeah, I just don't buy it. As someone said above, in "Nebraska" Rick killed those two guys in the bar in cold blood based on his instinct. Rick didn't need instinct to plainly see that The Governor is not only a dangerous psychopath but also has his death in mind. The whole waffling moment when he was talking to Hershel about Michonne put an exclamation point on that nonsense.

    In theory, I love the idea of having Rick and The Governor do a Heat-like powwow (a comparison someone else made above), but the circumstances have to be believable.

  • I don't think Rick is feeling very confident about anything right now. He was like a cat pacing around in that barn.

  • DarthCorleone

    I'll acknowledge he's coming off the unhinged ghost-Lori period, but I felt the events of "Clear" had put him on the right track again. He's certainly saying all the right things; he's just not doing what he's saying. And if Carol had the wherewithal to urge Andrea to kill The Governor in his sleep, surely the idea would have come up again at the prison before the meeting.

    For me it comes down to this: Rick is logical enough to ignore and leave for dead a fellow human being on the side of the road because of the chance that he's dangerous even though he could be a relatively innocent human being and an asset to the group, but he's also illogical enough to trust someone that he 100 percent knows is dangerous? Maybe my bigger problem is not the postponement of letting it come to violence and more just the presentation of the specific circumstances in this episode: is he ever going to get an easier chance at killing him than he just had? I don't think so. Perhaps I just have to file that under suspension of disbelief.

    In the end, I don't think Rick's going to end up trusting him and turning over Michonne, and I'm so certain of that that I'll agree with TK's apt assessment: this episode was just pointless wheel-spinning. If there had been more interesting character stuff in their conversation or if The Governor had displayed even a little of the charm that he would have to have to gain the followers he has, I'd feel differently.

  • See now, what you're calling a decision--"logical enough to leave for dead a fellow human being..."--I'm calling Rick is still in a bit of a stupor. I don't think he thought much of anything about the guy on the road. He's had this slack-jawed, empty look on his face these past two episodes. He snapped out of it a bit with Morgan, because he was forced to. But I think he's still a little loopy; realizing he has to get it together because of the dire situation they're all in.

  • DarthCorleone

    The fact that there are three people in the car and none of them so much as flinch at the hitchhiker implied to me a general group philosophy and conscious decision. Rick could be zoned out at that moment, but are Michonne and Carl equally zoned out? Are they following Rick's oblivious lead? Are they just insensitive monsters? Maybe yes to all three questions, I guess, and I could grant you that.

    I can give Rick an allowance for being loopy. What I can't give him an allowance for is acting loopy but speaking like someone who isn't loopy at all. He's aware enough to call out The Governor for being what he is - a murdering troublemaker that fired guns in his yard - but he's not aware enough to act on that assessment? And the Hershel conversation at the end is what cements how little sense it all makes. "Yeah, Hershel, I know this guy is going to try to kill us, but in order to protect us, I think maybe I should trust him to not try to kill us."

    It's the exact same problem I had with the depiction of the Lori hallucinations. He's crazy enough to see her, but he's lucid enough to rationally discuss it and defend his reaction? "Yeah, Hershel, I know I'm seeing things, but I'm just going to hang out here where the Walkers can eat me for some ineffable mystical reason."

    I'm not an expert on this sort of psychological trauma. Maybe this sort of crazy is perfectly reasonable, but the verisimilitude isn't connecting for me.

  • Okay, so on part of this we can agree--I thought the hallucinations made no sense whatsoever. Now, maybe this is some sort of side effect attributable to the infection they all have, I don't know? But does emotional breakdown equate hallucinations? For me, that was the stretch. Diminished mental capacity, certainly. I guess my point is, Rick is acting erratically, and so I don't think everything he does is going to be logical or make sense.

    Michonne, yes I do think she's a cold bitch and it was in character for her to not give a shit about the guy on the road. Carl, I saw his face and maybe he had a moment, but he's been through a hell of a lot and he's a kid. I think he's shut down emotionally.

    Because of the way Rick's been acting, I was actually surprised he saw right through the Governor's machinations--happily surprised. I feel like Rick is a mess, but he's realizing he has to pull it together. And that might be part of why he didn't just act right there in the barn. Like he said to Hershel, "I'm hoping you'll talk me out of it." Old Rick wouldn't have saw war as a solution; he'd have done anything to avoid it. He's fighting with himself, and he's also fighting through all this crap he's just gone through--Lori, Shane, a baby. That's a lot for one dude. I don't think he's necessarily going to act completely rationally right now.

  • DarthCorleone

    I concede the moment in the car, but I think my interpretation still jibes with the general level of mistrust and extreme caution that the group and Rick especially have exhibited toward outsiders - the prison's inmates, Michonne, Tyreese and his companions, etc. As such, his willingness to palaver with The Governor with the knowledge about what The Governor has done remains a glaring inconsistency in my mind.

    My issue isn't that he must act rationally. It makes perfect sense that he could be unhinged at this point in the story. My issue is that he is acting irrationally despite the fact that - per his own thoughts as portrayed via his words - he obviously still is thinking rationally, which is the very definition of not being unhinged. ...Unless he's so absolutely unhinged that his craziness manifests itself as the appearance of logical sense that he is wired to subsequently ignore, but I don't think that's what they're going for here.

    I think we're at an impasse. :- )

  • Or, we have to fight to the death!

    I don't think the two states of mind are mutually exclusive. Rick used to be the guy who mistrusted least, or wanted to do away with someone only as a last resort. It's been very recent that he's completely done a turnaround. But back to my first point, I do think a person can be unhinged and have moments of complete clarity. And this isn't the first time he's been like this. When they had the first fight at the OK-Woodbury Corral, Rick had been hallucinating and then suddenly he was in charge of the coordinated attack (including that moment when he just stood in the open, lost for a minute, and no one managed to get off a shot at him). That made even less sense to me. Overall, his mental state is very unclear.

    Agree to disagree.

  • emmelemm

    Agreed about Merle. He's an asshole, racist opportunist of the highest order. Given. I don't think for one second he wouldn't be a mole under any number of circumstances.

    But, for me, one really genuine note of the episode, and of Merle's character overall, was the way he said, "It's my BROTHER!" He really thought there was a chance that Daryl could be killed at the "peace summit" (despite Daryl being pretty darn capable of taking care of himself), and Merle absolutely, positively did not want that to happen.

  • DarthCorleone

    Yeah, I picked up on that too. There's just something very major that takes place in the comic that's related to The Governor that it looks like the show is completely going to omit, and I'm disappointed by it. Merle as a mole would have been a rational gateway for that event.

  • emmelemm

    "rational gateway"

    {snicker} Forget it Darth, it's Walking Dead.

  • Hush, you!

  • DeltaJuliet

    Really, I just wanted Rick to walk in, shoot the Governor, and leave. But then that would have been a really short episode.

  • emmelemm

    Brightest spot for me: Milton now my favorite character, hands down.

    "That IS a slaughter."

  • wsapnin

    Maggie and Glen are not practicing safe sex. I foresee another "Lil Asskicker" next season.

  • Wednesday

    I so do not understand why Rick didn't kill the Governor, or at least try to. It's not like he has any moral compunction against it, or has reason to believe that Woodbury would come after the prison gang for retribution. They have enough knowledge of how Woodbury works to know it's all about the charismatic leader. He can waste 45 minutes getting conflicted about giving up Michonne, yet he doesn't think to ambush the man who is ready to slaughter him and his group?

    Rick's accent is killing me lately. In these slow, dialogue-heavy scenes, it's utterly cringe worthy. The other characters will slip now and again, and as someone who's lived in Atlanta and environs her entire adult life, I mostly only catch it when I'm looking for it. But Rick is channeling Deputy Dawg in the vocal department.

  • Uriah_Creep

    Rick's accent is killing me lately. In these slow, dialogue-heavy
    scenes, it's utterly cringe worthy. The other characters will slip now
    and again, and as someone who's lived in Atlanta and environs her entire
    adult life, I mostly only catch it when I'm looking for it. But Rick
    is channeling Deputy Dawg in the vocal department.

    THANK YOU! Lincoln's accent has been bothering me a bit all along, but it's at its worst when he has these dramatic scenes (i.e., often). It's hard to forget the guy from "Wuthering Heights" then.

  • Bert_McGurt

    Ok, besides the rampantly stupid sex scene (I mean, yeah, I get that you're eager to rip Lauren Cohen's clothes off, but SHUT THE F*CKING DOOR AT LEAST! Seriously, it was like, a foot open.) what bothered me the most was the anti-Chekov's Gun during the meeting. So the Governor gives up his weapon, only to find - oh no, they taped a gun to the table! On the outside? Like, where Rick can see it if he just walks around the table? And then you don't use it?

    Also, Herschel's missing his right leg, correct? You know, the one you use to DRIVE A CAR? The h*ll is he doing in the driver's seat? For Christ's sake, he'd be more useful in an a**-kicking contest!

    This was pretty disappointing after last week's episode.

  • melissa82

    Plus it appeared that they got it pretty secure with that duct tape -- looked like it'd take a little obvious effort to pull that thing off the table. Not too great for a surprise attack...

  • Bert_McGurt

    Come to think of it, how come nobody's stockpiling duct tape? Talk about one of the most valuable things (along with TP) in a zombie apocalypse...

  • emmelemm


    Me too. I was like, Chekov's gun #1: Herschel's leg. Chekov's gun #2: under the table. Firings of Chekov's gun in third act: None. Fail.

    I liked Herschel's leg gun and wanted to see it in action, but was disappointed. As for the gun taped under the table, that was just fail in many dimensions. First, Han didn't shoot first, GREEDO DIDN'T SHOOT. Thank you. Second, yeah, yeah, we know that the Governor is untrustworthy. Ooooh, look, he makes a big show of putting down his weapons, but he's not really unarmed! He's kind of a bastard like that! Really? I mean, we haven't had any previous indication that he's less than an honorable guy, have we? It just seemed like the laziest and most unnecessary waste of time ever.

  • logan

    I think the war talk is a misdirection and one of the governors people will kill him. Someone like Milton. Or Martinez.

    I could see the prison being blown up or something to drive them out.

    They wouldn't be so lame as to keep them in the prison for next year would they?

  • David Sorenson

    Andrea has to be the one to kill the Governor. That's the only way her continued attachment to him makes sense. It's the only way to even attempt to redeem the mess she's become. Otherwise they should just kill her off.

  • GDI

    Seems obvious that this is the right way to defuse the time bomb and the issue of relocation, yet the catalyst to both of those solutions is mostly gone. It'll still happen, but in a very half-assed and unconvincing manner.
    And yes, the writing and production staff would be lame enough to keep them at the prison for another season.

  • Puddin

    The sex scene was gross. All I could think about was how stinky those two must have been. And how they couldnt shower afterwards. And how she kissed her DAD when he got back and she was all oogie. Or maybe that's just my crippling Catholicism talking.

  • emmelemm

    Once the zombie apocalypse is in full swing, we'll see if you refuse sex with someone because they're "smelly". It's a whole new world, friend.

  • Puddin

    (announcer voice) In a world....with smelly wieners...would you refuse...sexy sexy sex?

  • Didn't Lori and Carol take showers at the prison? And Glen was all cleaned up--I noticed that about him.

  • Bodhi

    Yeah, they have showers somewhere in the prison. Remember how Rick got all cleaned up after his zombie rampage looking for Lori's body?

  • Boothy K

    I thought that too...Imagine how crotch-rotted they are, how greasy their jeans would be and how smelly his wiener is!

    Well, maybe don't imagine it after all...Hahahah

  • When Glen and Maggie snuck away to screw, I said to husband, "Oh hell. One of them is about to die." I really felt like the episode was building up to unleash some sort of shitstorm that would dominate the last few episodes. And then... Absolutely nothing happened. I still expect the the shitstorm to roll in, but endlessly waiting for it is driving me nuts.

  • melissa82

    I thought Merle was going to sneak out then.

  • I had almost exactly the same thought, except mine was along the lines of "good Lord, this is a terrible idea! Didn't either of them see Scream?"

  • Debbie Ford

    This episode was a tough one for me, too. I love the whole series so much that I can forgive a certain number of missteps per episode. But the number in this one went over my limit. Now it's like all of the sudden I can't maintain the suspension of belief that's needed to enter into -- and believe in -- a world gone mad in the midst of a zombie apocalypse. One short example. The kick-off of this season, with the Grimes gang entering the zombie-filled farmhouse like a special forces team - efficiently "clearing" the rooms and quickly scavenging what few supplies they could find - all almost silently, as if they had done it dozens of times. Now that I believed. That felt right, like the way people hunting for food, running from trouble and killing zombie day after day, for months, would act.
    Fast forward to now. Rick sits down across from the Governor and actually listens to and considers his terms. This is the guy who has kidnapped, tortured, shot and killed members of Rick's group. Rick has killed other survivors far sooner and for far less than that, and that was months ago in the show's timeline. So now Rick's more forgiving and more trusting? That doesn't feel right. Why doesn't Rick pull his gun and shoot the Governor where he stands, like he did to those two guys in the bar who were up to no good?
    Similar situation back at the prison. Has the group learned nothing about fortifying their position and preparing for war? Their pitiful defense are inexcusable considering that they have already been attacked and nearly wiped out already. This episode, when Glen said he was going to go out an work on the cage, I thought, "Finally, someone is getting serious about defense." But that little flap Glen cut in the fence almost made me throw my remote at the TV. That's your big preparation? Cutting a hole in a fence that you could already shoot through? And doing nothing else, say something to actually stop bullets from coming through from outside and killing you. That was all anybody did to prepare for this big "war" everyone has been talking about! Come on! That is not how people who have survived this long would act!
    All I'm saying is the number of times my cognitive dissonance alarm goes off is increasing now with almost every episode.
    Damn it.

  • DarthCorleone

    Exactly exactly exactly.

  • malikvlc

    On the whole Andrea thing: she confides in Hershel that she's in this limbo - not wanting to return to Woodbury with the Governor and not feeling welcome at the prison. Hershel states that at the end of the palaver, whichever choice she makes will seal the deal. AND THEN SHE HOPS IN THE TRUCK WITH THE GOVERNOR!!!

    Sorry, the writers may be trying to set her up as the one to kill the Governor, but they've failed at showing anything resembling strength in her character. She has had two prime opportunities to make up her mind and do something (hovering over her lover while he slept, knife in hand was the first), and she couldn't do something simple like getting in the car with Rick and crew. Sorry, but failing to extricate yourself from a bad situation is not a sign of power or self-worth.

    It's embarrassing as a viewer at this point, and the final pay-off will never make amends.

    And Rick put together a weird team to attend the meeting, didn't he? Hershel? Is being able to hide a weapon in yer fake wooden leg that good of a bonus?

    And as much as I love Daryl - he needs to ditch that zombie-beacon bike.

  • DeltaJuliet

    That WAS an odd team that he put together. I couldn't quite figure out how he came up with that combination of people. I mean, Darryl is a "yes" in any situation, but Hershel? When the episode ended and the Governor got in the truck I said "So, the guy with one leg is driving one vehicle and the guy with one eye is driving the other? WTF"

  • TK

    I actually wondered about this myself, but then again when you think about the real asskickers (heh) in the group, who else is there? Michonne, Glenn, Maggie, and Merle all have WAY too many issues with the Governor to be brought onboard for this. Beth? Carl? The only other semi-realistic option would be Carol, but that's not really the part that she's historically played. It was actually one of the few decisions I agreed with.

  • emmelemm

    They're certainly setting it up so that the only thing Andrea can do to "redeem herself" is kill the Governor. Except at this point, even killing the Governor ain't gonna do it.

  • lowercase_ryan

    - Andrea getting sent away from the big kid table, signifying that everyone realizes her uselessness.
    - Esposito going one armed Barry Bonds.

    - The Dixon's and Michonne (seriously, can they just take off on their own and rule the world?).

    - Coy Herschel
    - Circle jerks at a table
    - Deep Frenching when I haven't seen a toothbrush on the show since I don't know when.

  • I can't much argue with anything you've said--it's episodes like this that leave me waiting for a moment that never comes. I wanted it to be better than it was.

    I did love all the sounds incorporated into the opening, every creak and whoosh of the wind had me at the ready (even if nothing ever happened). Daryl and Martinez were great, and I loved how Daryl's attitude changed after they played a round of zombie invaders.

    Morrissey's goofy laugh was irritating as fork, but I thought Lincoln still brought intensity without going overboard.

    It seemed incredibly unrealistic to me that Maggie went from being so traumatized to throwing her clothes into the air; also for both of them to stop their watch. I was convinced something was going to happen while they let down the guard, and by all rights, it should have.

    I think they're setting up Andrea to kill the Governor--they want us to buy her as the show's strong, kickass woman--and somehow, the writers don't realize how much the audience detests her. Very similar to Lori...

    The other unbelievable moment was Glen trying to stand up to Merle. Hey, I like Glen well enough, but the day Merle stands down to Glen's tough guy routine is the day Merle is being careful, because he wants to stay.

  • DeltaJuliet

    My husband and I spent the whole "sex scene" waiting for something bad to happen. Then, when nothing happened, we were like "Oh. That was pointless".

    I still hate Andrea. I hope she went back with the Governor to keep on eye on him because otherwise she is the most useless doormat ever. And I have said "God, I HATE ANDREA" so many times that now that Mr. Juliet actually waits for it and then laughs. I think she has surpassed my Lori-hate, which is saying something.

  • lowercase_ryan

    I loved how Caesar called Daryl a pussy and Daryl comes right back with Douchebag a few minutes later.

  • Jennifer Schmennifer

    I thought that last scene with Andrea made it clear that she was no longer the Governor's groupie. So I'm willing to stop yelling "You are dead to me!" whenever she appears on the screen. I'm hoping that the only reason she went back is that someone needs to keep an eye on him.

    I also think that the other point to this episode is that Milton and Martinez were able to see Daryl and Herschel as people, and no longer demonize the people in Rick's group. Maybe that'll influences the choices they make in upcoming episodes.

  • Badger

    That was a harsh review. I thought the episode was enjoyable but it was certainly cast in an unflattering shadow of last weeks episode. It also gave us the a hint that not everyone in the Governor's group is going to continually follow him blindly i.e. Milton being disgusted by him. Also Andrea sucks

  • GDI

    It didn't seem harsh enough. When a show that continually underwhelms and insults its audience on a weekly basis (notwithstanding how bad some of the characters are written in contrast to their comic book counterpart), it should be getting razzed harder.

  • Boothy K

    Agreed re: harshness of the review. Wow. I didn't think the episode was that bad. I love silent openers, it reminded me of the first episode of the season. Darryl and Martinez were great, Hershel and Milton were appropriately nerdy and even though I waited for a zombie to come into the garage when Maggie and Glenn were getting it on, it's nice to see some chemistry. Sex is a good way to let off steam!

    I am interested in the frequent shots of the zombies gathering outside the prison gates. I have been thinking about it and what they symbolize. They are growing in numbers and are making the prison less of a safe place for the group who are becoming prisoners themselves...

    Andrea. She is a problem. Her sulking when she got shoo'd away from the table was juvenile. I agree that the writers don't know what to do with her. She goes from being some sort of diplomat to being a child then a sexualized object then a wet noodle to a tough guy. Guh. I want her to die. Someone has to die...Her or Herschel's other daughter would be a good start.

  • jr76

    I thought it was pretty tense seeing those two characters build up some good old fashioned hate. Reminded me of the scene between DeNiro and Pacino in Heat before they started swapping bullets.

  • Blake

    Can we just be done with the Governor already? I love David Morrissey but the Governor is just boring.

    P.S. And Andrea (who has nicely filled in for Lori for the title of "Character I most want to see die" spot).

    I will be very unhappy in any thing happens to Maggie (or Glen).

  • F'mal DeHyde

    Lori was annoying but Andrea is so much worse. The Gov said something like "you don't have the authority..." to her and I nearly cheered because bitch thinks she's running the show when all she's got going for her is sex with the most insane man on the Eastern seaboard. Please, someone kill her.

  • lowercase_ryan

    Clear was written by Scott Gimple, the new showrunner for season 4. This episode was written by one of the older writers. Huge difference.

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