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Is "Glee" Ruining Gay Street Cred?

By Dustin Rowles | Posted Under TV Reviews | Comments (45)



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All right, here’s my crackpot theory for this week. God bless, “Glee.” Good or bad, the show always gives me something to write about. Anyway, stay with me here. From reading the comments and based on my own direct and anecdotal evidence, here’s what’s fairly apparent: Most of our favorite characters on “Glee” are the fringe characters: Brittany, Santana, Puck, and Sue Sylvester. This is a natural reaction to a lot of shows: We gravitate toward minor characters because they’re not given as much screen time and/or are not as exposed as the major characters (this is often true of ensembles; see “The Office,” for instance).

But look who it is that comprise our favorite characters: Two cheerleaders, the bullying cheerleading coach, and the bullying jock. And who are we tired of? Rachel and Kurt, for the most part. Both the Mercedes and Quinn drama has also lost some of its flavor, and as much as I want to like Artie, the subplots that revolve around him haven’t been interesting. Finn, as he’s currently constructed, is extraneous to the show — we like him best when he’s the womanizing jock (inasmuch as Finn can be a womanizing jock). All of which is to say: “Glee” is something of an inverted pyramid. Unlike most every other high-school movie or television show, it’s the jocks and the cheerleaders that we’re kind of smitten with, while the major players — those that drive the majority of the storylines — are beginning to feel stale. We’re beginning to sympathize with the underdog popular kids, while the “freaks” have become the heroes. And, as we all know, heroes are never the cool ones (unless said hero is played by Robert Downey, Jr.). We love the outliers, and in “Glee,” it’s the popular kids who are the outliers.

Ryan Murphy is mainstreaming a brand of gay culture on “Glee,” and once something gets mainstreamed — once your parents and your grandparents latch on to it — it loses it’s cool. It’s street cred, so to speak. “Glee” has already been renewed for a third season, and the second season hasn’t even aired yet. What does that say? “Glee” will be Myspace in three years. Or Friendster. The novelty will have been completely lost, and the gay will have been co-opted by every other show on television. On the one hand, that’s great: Murphy’s brand of gay culture will be assimilated into our mainstream, but on the other hand, how much less cool will Kurt be when every other high-school kid in America dresses like him and expresses his feeling through show tunes?

Just a theory.

As for last night’s show: We saw a weakness in Sue Sylvester, and we didn’t like it. Don’t do that again, Mr. Murphy. We don’t want a vulnerable Sue Sylvester, willing to throw herself at Shuester to avoid loneliness only to have her heart broken when he reveals it all to be a mean-spirited diabolical plan. Not cool. Sue Sylvester is the diabolical planner. Let’s keep it that way. (And who privately hopes that Sylvester throws the “Glee” kids under the bus in net weeks’ finale? Do it!)

Meanwhile, Jesse St. James — who has not, as many predicted, revealed himself to be gay — up and returned to Vocal Adrenaline, dumping Rachel in the process, although it’s apparent that he still has feelings for Rachel. Subsequently, Vocal Adrenaline psyched out their competition with a not-so-rousing rendition of “Another One Bites the Dust,” which was kind of weak, if you ask me. As a result, the entire Glee club went into a funk, which inspired Will to introduce “funk” as this week’s (failed) musical theme.

“Glee Club” and funk do not mix, folks. Do not try at home. They are mutually exclusive. Every single attempt at funk failed spectacularly on last night’s show, save for “Good Vibrations,” which wasn’t funk, but which was the most amusing number of the night. Quinn’s attempt at funk — a pregnant girl rendition of “A Man’s World” — was the most embarrassingly awful.

Oh, and what they did with Beck? Don’t do that again. Leave Beck out of this, people. “Loser” does not need to be Glee’d up. Don’t Mickey Mouse club that shit. That’s just mean. Stick with the Funky Bunch. Make the uncool music cool, but don’t bring the cool music down to your level (random thought: I can’t wait until they Glee up some Nickelback or Creed or Daughtry, so I can torture TK with it on an endless loop for twice the musical misery).

Here, I’ll cut to the chase now: Quinn, in her pregnancy (and wow! She started showing quickly) found a sympathy partner in Mercedes because, see, Mercedes is fat. And it’s totally the same thing. Right? And now Quinn is moving in with Mercedes. (The Quinn storyline won for most reductive, bullshit offensive subplot of the night. Hooray!). Meanwhile, Sue overcame her heartbreak to win the nationals and redeem her bullying ways with Will, although we will always know that vulnerability. Terri and Will’s divorce became official, and Terri developed feelings for Finn. And the Glee club redeemed themselves in the eyes of Vocal Adrenaline with a decidedly unfunky rendition of “We Want the Funk.” Hey Glee Kids! Funk needs a low register to work. This Glee Club has no low register. That was painful, and in exposing Vocal Adrenaline’s weakness, you revealed your own: A complete funklessness. But on the bright side: There’s a black guy in the group now? Where’d he come from? Do they just trot him out for the P-Funk numbers? Maybe next time, give him a line.









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Comments

So I feel that "Glee" is the "Will and Grace" of the Noughties: a prime time show that features lovable gay characters who are instantly recognizable and therefore mascot-like in their cuteness. The problem with this is that they don't represent real life or take on any of the real prejudices gay people face. In real life, the most vitriol against the gay community is saved for gay people who want to be normal members of society (marry each other, teach children, etc.), not the ones who sing show tunes. And yes, I know "Glee" is light-hearted and not responsible for breaking down barriers, but it really frustrates me to see a popular show not go a little further to make some points to an audience who would not ordinarly get those points. And because of all that I put it to you that the "Glee Gay" is already assimilated into mainstream culture.

Posted by: PaddyDog at June 2, 2010 9:44 AM

I watched Glee for the second time tonight. In a moment of weakness, I did not turn off the DVR and risk incurring my wife's wrath. It wasn't my fault, I was confined to the living room. Going forward, I have decided that I shall indeed risk the wrath in order to save what little sanity I have left. I will also never forgive what they did to Marky Mark and The Funky Bunch.

Posted by: admin at June 2, 2010 9:48 AM

Why do I even watch this show any more? Granted, The Pucky Bunch "Good Vibrations" was fantastic. Fantastically hokey, but that's what I love! But every other musical number was just so, so loathsome. Vocal Adrenaline's rendition of Queen was _terrible_. No one would have been afraid of that hot mess. Quinn's "Man's World," was just a shameless ploy to poke at the sperm donor. We get it, Puck feels conflicted, now either show some character development surrounding the issue or move on. But just stop having the characters caterwauling about it.

Someone wake me when they start remembering Mercedes has a voice that deserves more than just back up vocals. Seriously, I still love her singing "Smash the windows out of his car."

Oh but wait, Mercedes has to let the formally bitchtastic Quinn be her new bestie. [Spoiler for anyone not aware of the plans for next season] And with next season's edition of a Christian girl, there will be no point for Quinn any more. Remember how she used to be president of the abstinence club? Remember how she used to be a total cunt and was awesome for it? Remember!?! Ah, but wait, the new Christian girl has to hate gays and Quinn has already accepted Kurt so that whole deal needs a new conflict. Because Kurt needs another reason to throw a pity party.

And the whole Will/Sue thing. Fuck you, Will. That was vicious. Seriously, what a dickbag. And before I get all ranty about how they let him get super handsy with all the kids in Glee club, let me focus on the main issue. Sue (and she said it herself) is mean to everyone. I'm sorry, Will, if a fucking cheerleader coach makes you cry like a little bitch, but she tramples everyone's life. It's like when Henry Higgins said to Eliza that she wanted him to be nice to her, because she felt it was unfair that he was cruel to her, but then he said quite simply, that he treats everyone that way. If you're an adult and you can't handle bullies you need to STFU, Will.

AND THEN He goes right around and tells the kids not to go beat V.A.'s ass after they egged Rachel (which, holy crap, was so mean and nasty that I felt sympathy for Rachel for the first time in decades), because being mean doesn't accomplish anything. Fuck you, Will, they deserved an ass beating and you deserve to be humiliated by Sue. Go choke on your herbal essence's mousse, Schuster.

Posted by: Kayanne at June 2, 2010 10:20 AM

I still like Glee. There is no doubt about that. But, like you said the novelty has worn off. I don't get chills when Mercedes trots out her high notes. I don't clap when Kurt is awesome anymore. I don't root for Rachel. I REALLY don't care about Finn. Quinn has become an after school special full of little one liner feel good gems. I still enjoy the show, but I feel like it has lost some of its shine that I fell in love with when it first started.

Posted by: Nimue at June 2, 2010 10:20 AM

Also, I was REALLy confused last night, b/c I thought that it was season finale.

Posted by: Nimue at June 2, 2010 10:21 AM

The black guy has always been there. I think he's one of the guys from the football club that joined glee.

Posted by: chibawafu at June 2, 2010 10:23 AM

Where's Gay Street?

Posted by: , at June 2, 2010 10:34 AM

Wait, Terri develops feelings for Finn???WTF???

I haven't seen it yet, obviously.

Also, the black guy said his first lines last week during the Kiss routine when he was describing his Kiss makeup. I remember thinking, "Woah, new voice!"

Posted by: dene at June 2, 2010 10:35 AM

Oh, and what they did with Beck? Don’t do that again. Leave Beck out of this, people. “Loser” does not need to be Glee’d up.

Huh. I thought that was the best number of the episode, actually.

I agree with you on the Sue thing, though. I kept waiting for it to be bullshit on her part, and for her to humiliate him in return (though I did decide that from now on, I will be wearing track suits + pearls). The trophy's in the Glee room? Big fuckin' deal.

And @ Nimue, I thought it was the finale too! I did get kind of excited to find that there's one more episode left. Even though like the rest of this season it will be really uneven (any other characters brought in we've forgotten about, like Sandy and Terry? They'll show up next week, I guess. Oh, and what happened to Emma? Did she quit, or something?)

Posted by: Anna von Beaversmack at June 2, 2010 10:52 AM

Oh, and did Terri "develop feelings" for Finn, or look at him with lust/think she could use him to get back at Will? I missed that part a little. I was folding my laundry.

Posted by: Anna von Beaversmack at June 2, 2010 10:53 AM

Was it just me not being able to hear the shitty sound on my computer or was Mercedes actually comparing being pregnant to being black? Because I'm not reeeeally sure if that's a legitimate comparison.

Posted by: buttercup at June 2, 2010 11:01 AM

...pregnant girl dance? Did...anyone...I believe I yelled "what the FUCK!" when they started doing the controlled breathing move...no one? Ok.

Weirdest episode, by far.

Posted by: Ian at June 2, 2010 11:06 AM

Meanwhile, Jesse St. James — who has not, as many predicted, revealed himself to be gay

Give it time. Most of my other predictions about the show have come true. This is just the last hanging thread to be pulled out. Well, that and Sue Sylvester killing Will Schuester through the Ohio mafia and taking over Glee. I mean, she had Kurt sing 14.5 minutes of Celine in French; that's what the Glee club needs.

I sympathize with liking Puck/Sue/Santana/Britney. I kept looking for the three students in the final funk number and almost screamed when I finally found Brittany--you know, the one played by the dancer who was brought into to help choreograph the show and wound up being tossed on the screen--dancing. Between her, Santana, and non-speaking Asian male, the dance numbers work.

My complaint about last night: two funk numbers. "A Man's World" is not a funk song. It's classic R&B. You could also make the case for early Rock&Roll or mid-century Blues, but it's certainly not funk. If that song's funk, then "I Put a Spell On You" and "Dream On" are funk, too. Similar chord structures, vocal styles, emotional performances, and repetitive melodies. I'll give Marky Mark a pass cause that was just a funny play on words; expected, but funny.

This may be my favorite episode. I have to decide if I feel cheated on the promised funk factor when Gaga and Madonna get entire episodes.

Posted by: Robert at June 2, 2010 11:09 AM

My mother happened to look over at the TV during Quinn's pregnant girl dance routine and asked, "What the hell are you watching?" I had to change the channel from sheer embarassment.

Posted by: Helen at June 2, 2010 11:34 AM

Yeah it was a lackluster episode, but I didn't entirely hate it--probably all because of Sue Sylvester, and Puck getting to sing and the show reminding me that Quinn had a voice (in a horrible number, but still).

And who privately hopes that Sylvester throws the “Glee” kids under the bus in net weeks’ finale?

What, literally, like in Mean Girls? Because that would be so unexpected and AWESOME.

And yup, the musical numbers were all around horrible last night. Most cringeworthy to me, though? Will's number to Sue. It was just so painfully awkward and unsexy and I couldn't even look at the screen. Please, please, PLEASE for the love of everything holy stop trying to make him sexy. It's just sad. I think that entire plot wins Most Offensive of the Week.

This show is just so ridiculously up and down sometimes that it makes me nauseous.

Posted by: figgy at June 2, 2010 12:00 PM

Come on! That pregnant girl dance routine was AWESOME. But yes, yes they need to leave Beck out of Glee. And I don't think anyone was comparing being preggers with being fat, it's the concept of being different - in any way - and the fact that pretty blonde Quinn has never dealt with that before.

Posted by: fenchurch at June 2, 2010 12:04 PM

And what the HELL was up with that scene with Rachel and the eggs? I almost had a feeling that she'd go all Carrie on their asses or something because that was just so damn WRONG. Who the hell does that to somebody?!

Not to mention the fact that like the other 700 plots that have come up during the season, the Rachel/Jesse romance lasted what, 2 episodes? Fuck that noise, have SOME running threads aside from "let's get to regionals!" (which I guess they're leaving until next season) or "Sue Sylvester's New Dastardly Plan to Destroy Glee!". Why should I care about anything that happens to anyone on this show when I know that they'll get over it by next week?

Posted by: figgy at June 2, 2010 12:05 PM

Murphy is just a giant asshole that likes to think he's just pretending to be an asshole when underneath is a great guy. dude you're an asshole, that's your point. also you built tv shows with the continuity of Saved by the bell, but let's get on that later. He did the same freaking mistakes with Popular, (I mean Mary Cherry was a freaking mastepiece of retardation) dude is funny when is over the top offensive, when he tries to be serious you can see he really is, after all, offensive and shallow. at least own it dude!
oh and total absence of continuity (wasn't jessie back in love with rachel in the whedon episode? when what? why do I even ask?) was acceptable in the early ninties, you know when everyone was so happy the eighties were over they didn't care if their tv was on shrooms most of the time,
now? not so much

Posted by: rio at June 2, 2010 12:17 PM


Hey, BCD, Gay Street is the main street through downtown Knoxville, TN -- my hometown.

As you might guess, this has been a problem for some of the Southern Baptist crowd, and when I was in college there was serious discussion about changing it. The college radio station ran a contest for a new name, which I won by submitting "In a festive manner avenue".

Posted by: Drake at June 2, 2010 12:28 PM

I'm not tired of Kurt. And though Sue is a horrible person, she is entertaining. She gets most of the best lines. That's why I'm entertained by her. It was disappointing that she fell for the obvious "I'm attracted to you" strategy, though maybe we're supposed to believe that she believes Will is so dumb and lame that he would actually do something like that.

Glee did not get funky enough, because I didn't hear a Prince song in there. And those "take this, we're gonna sing and dance our asses off to show how much better we are than you" bits were fucking lame. I know it's a musical and whatnot, but those scenes (when they happen) are clunky. I was OK with the rest of it, though I did wonder, where is pregnant cheerleader living now? A box behind Wal-Mart? The locker room? Sorry, I missed the part where her parents kicked her out and she had to go... somewhere else.

And yeah, the "Man's World" song is not funk. Duh. I'm white as hell and I know that.

Posted by: Slash at June 2, 2010 12:52 PM

First of all, Drake, I love that you, as a person of the gay persuasion (unless I'm mixing up my 'Jibans), won the "let's rename Gay Street" radio contest. There's a certain amount of poetic justice right there. Or maybe it's just irony.

As for last night's episode of Glee, I have mixed feelings. I actually liked Quinn's song--though the dance number was ridiculous. I hated Shue's sexy dance--why? WHY? did the camera focus on his ass? It just felt so wrong and dirty--and not in a good way. I loved Sue's pearls with the track suit--perfect! Shue being cruel to her was unacceptable. Dude, you don't lower yourself to her level--you'll never win and it just makes you look bad. The Marky Mark number was great, though I suspect that Glee may have now earned Mark Wahlberg's ire--and you so don't want that.

What else? Yes, I agree with the commenters who said that Quinn was equating her experience of prejudice as a pregnant teenage girl with being black. Yep, that doesn't quite work for me. And it's great that Mercedes discussed the issue with her mom, but why not both her parents? I couldn't help but say, "What about her dad, the dentist?"

I continue to hold out hope for Glee. It has its moments.

And yeah, I swear that we were led to believe that last night's episode was the last, but actually, there's one more.

Oh yes, the black guy (Mike? Matt? I can't keep his and the "other Asian's" names straight) joined when the other football players joined. He's the one that Sue referred to as Shaft, in her awesome roll call: Santana! Wheels! Gay kid! Asian! Other Asian! Aretha! Shaft!. I have been calling for more info on both Mike and Matt--some story time perhaps?--for what feels like forever. A solo singing line or two? Maybe a song of their own? Unlike Santana and Brittany, who we know something about, we know very little about these two. Maybe next season?

But yes, Glee continues to be uneven and too frenetic and I just want them to get their mojo back and hold onto it!

Posted by: tamatha at June 2, 2010 12:58 PM

Ummmm the black guy? He's been there the whole time... his name is Matt. The fact that you only now noticed him now seems more a fault of yours than the show. He had a line during the Kiss song last week about his outfit, I believe.

Posted by: Wormer at June 2, 2010 1:00 PM

I thought the Mercedes/Quinn friendship has been a long time coming. Quinn had her back when Mercedes was trying to lose weight for the Cheerios and when she started dating Puck. I saw it as Mercedes helping her new bestie out, after Quinn had been there for her throughout the second half of the season. I definitely didn't read it as Mercedes responding just to this episode and that awkward James Brown piece, but as a culmination of their emerging friendship.

And what I love about Glee now is that the minor characters are leading a lot more songs. In the past few weeks, we've seen Artie, Quinn, Santana, Puck, Mercedes, and Kurt ROCK IT, while Finn and Rachel have taken a bit of a vocal back seat.

Posted by: Ruth at June 2, 2010 1:19 PM

AND I will proudly put myself in the minority and say that I LOVED the Beck piece last night. Anyone who has ever worked retail has certainly felt that way, and I wish so badly that Borders broke down in self-defeating song and dance when I worked there.

Posted by: Ruth at June 2, 2010 1:25 PM

The pregnant dance made me laugh pretty hard. I thought it was kind of awesome in an unintentional way. It was supposed to make us feel sympathy for Quinn, but I can't wait to see a bunch of drag queens recreate it for a drag show in the near future. Then it would be perfect.

Where are the bitches at? Santana, Quinn and Rachel have had some backbone in previous episodes. Rachel gets a short pass because she just had her heart broken, but the egg thing should have pushed her over the edge. Even Sue was a weak female character in this episode. Ryan Murphy needs to go and rewatch "The Woman" (the one from the 30s, not the Meg Ryan abomination.) Let's see those girls get together and really make someone suffer.

The scenes where Sue fell apart and consequently the cheerleaders showed up distraught at school were hilarious though and I think a Finn/Terry romance would be fun.

Posted by: Jennifer at June 2, 2010 1:30 PM

Jennifer - You just reminded me of one of my favorite scenes from last night--Brittany so thrown off by Sue's absence/not going to nationals, that she was wearing her cheerleading top backwards!

Posted by: tamatha at June 2, 2010 1:44 PM

I totally agree that Loser was a highlight of the episode, working in retail is one of the most soul crushing experiences in life, their version of the song was perfect. I also loved the jarring quick edit of the whole performance being in Puck's imagination. That part was awesome.

On a side note, fuck off 80's culture rehashing, the 90's are back in baby! About time! Pop Culture from 1992-1998 ruled! It wasn't until the stupid Spice Girls in 1997 that things started going down hill. I also welcome the inevitable Glee En Vogue number, dear lord let it be "Never Gonna Get It."

The episode order was all fucked up by the Fox execs, the order should be Dream On, Funk, Theatricality. Both Jesse's and Rachel's mom's story lines suffer immensely due to the mix up.

Am I the only one who wants ND to lose next week? I think it will give them something to work forward to next season.

Posted by: Mebe at June 2, 2010 1:46 PM

I disagree that Rachel was weak in this episode, she was rightfully pissed that Jesse played her and straight up dared him to smash the egg on her. Also Sue playing Will at the end with the tongue kiss and then as he gets into it tells him his breath stinks of mediocrity, that part was hilarious.

Posted by: Mebe at June 2, 2010 1:49 PM

Glee free for two weeks now and I don't miss it. I just can't stand it anymore. When the show came on last year, I LOVED it. I thought it was very clever and somewhat true to high school, but ever since the hiatus, it sucks. It's all about trying to be cool and preachy now. Let's do Madonna. Because we're such a cool show, we're going to do GaGa. We have to preach about loving and accepting yourself, because the audience is too dumb to figure it out unless we shove it down their throat. What the hell happened to the storylines and strong characters??? I could care less about the characters anymore.

Posted by: Nessie at June 2, 2010 1:49 PM

Oh Glee, I can't quit you! If I do eventually quit this show it will be such a shame.

Posted by: Mebe at June 2, 2010 2:07 PM

I also thought the Beck number was great. Not least because it forced Finn to sing without the face scrunch.

But I gotta agree that that was one spectacularly unfunky funk episode. I don't think it had to be that way, though -- they just sort of botched it. Quinn and Kurt should not have been allowed to attempt to bring the funk. It should have been left to Mercedes, Artie, Puck, other Asian kid, Brittany, and Santana. That's your funk crew.

Posted by: sansho1 at June 2, 2010 2:13 PM

yeah, the lack of an Artie funk number is a missed opportunity fo sho.

Posted by: Mebe at June 2, 2010 2:16 PM

So I guess the Idina Menzel mother storyline is totally over considering that all her students egged her daughter.

Posted by: carolyn at June 2, 2010 3:14 PM

God am I glad Pajiba is doing Glee recaps.

Others already said this lots of times, but YES, this show is so fucking uneven. Sometimes it just works and it's great, but then some of the crap they pull is just, well, crap. The most offensive thing was definitely the conversation between Quinn and Mercedes. Quinn has been running around with a baby bump for a while so now she knows what it's like to be fat and/or black, like Mercedes? Whattt?? I was gonna say a bunch of other stuff, but I don't even remember. Overall I thought the episode was okay, but yeah, I don't think the show is gonna be able to continue for long without it becoming really, really stale.

Oh, and that black guy, Matt or whatever, is HOT. I've had my eye on him for a while now.

Posted by: Thijs at June 2, 2010 3:23 PM

Sue:I'll tell you what Brett, I'm all about finding a freakish depressed kid and showin'em what winning is all about.

Kurt:Viva la difference! (kick)

Bwahaha! God, I love that scene. I'm in the minority that thought the Will/Sue stuff was delightful.

Also bonus for actually playing Beck's Loser at the end!

Posted by: Mebe at June 2, 2010 4:42 PM

Ditto on Pajiba Glee recaps, even if the episode sucked it gives Dustin the opportunity to be funny, so win.

Posted by: Mebe at June 2, 2010 4:47 PM

I got all confused about the timeline. Wednesday, Will stands up Sue for dinner. Because she has her competition on Saturday, right? And then Will gets on the phone to Jesse and tells them to meet New Directions in the auditorium on Friday. But before that happens, we see Sue on TV winning a trophy on . . . Saturday? WTF?
And when Sue was all depressed, Kurt says that hadn't had practice in days. But wasn't it only Thursday by then?

Am I crazy? Because that fucked me right up.

Posted by: MyySharona at June 2, 2010 5:24 PM

Hi tamatha, yes, I am of the gay way. And to top off the irony, the prize was a certificate for a pizza dinner, which I used to ask out this guy I'd had a crush on for quite a while.

Posted by: Drake at June 2, 2010 6:34 PM

Kayanne, yes! I thought Will's little game with Sue was incredibly cruel. That's something kids do in high school, it's not something high school teachers should be doing. I feel like the characters in this show are just so uneven now as well, they change weekly to bend to the plot. Will is usually above Sue's taunting and manipulation, but now all of a sudden he's game to destroy her self esteem? Sorry, don't buy it. Say what you will about Rachel, but at least she's pretty damn consistent.

I still like the show but they need to stop shoveling through plot lines like they're going out of style. The mother storyline and the Jesse/Rachel relationship could have easily been a season long thing, or at the very least several episodes, but 2-3 episodes each?? Take it easy, Ryan Murphy, or you're going to end up with another Nip/Tuck on your hands.

Posted by: Even Stevens at June 2, 2010 9:37 PM

"In a festive manner avenue" is the funniest thing I've heard in a long time. Way to take bigots and make lemonade, Drake.

Posted by: marya at June 2, 2010 9:47 PM

Uhh, pretty sure the Mercedes issue had to do with her being black not being fat. I didn't get anything about fat from it at all.

Posted by: DominaNefret at June 3, 2010 12:29 AM

Watch it again, the scene in the library makes sense if it is about weight.


I think that Will and Sue are all about tough love. Sue is a horrible person (hello, she put a woman into a coma, give her cheerios eating disorders, she is bad!) but I honestly believe that she and Shue will develop an interesting friendship.

I know most hated this storyline, but I thought it was hilarious.

Posted by: Mebe at June 3, 2010 2:00 AM

I'm watching this right now. It is, sadly, the most painful episode I've watched yet. The pregnant dancers...yeesh. Will and Sue...argh. Just awful.

And what the hell is with Mercedes and Quinn moving in together?

The last ep needs to be better than this crap.

Posted by: Carrie at June 5, 2010 5:06 PM

Also, I'm confused, have I missed an episode? Why has Jesse gone back to VA, why does he say 'I loved you'? When did they break up?

Posted by: Carrie at June 5, 2010 5:11 PM

Jessie has gone back to VA because he is a jerk. He said "I loved you." because apparently he's still heartbroken over the Run Joey Run debacle. (Pansy) 8D

I thought this episode was good, but not in the way the original episodes were. Glee almost seems like an entirely different show nowadays, so I'm treating it that way. If you don't compare it to its potential, it's okay.

Posted by: Lia at September 12, 2010 1:16 PM