"Game Of Thrones" - "Second Sons": I Never Wanted Your Love, But I Needed It All
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"Game Of Thrones" - "Second Sons": I Never Wanted Your Love, But I Needed It All

By TK | TV Reviews | May 20, 2013 | Comments ()


Amid all the scheming and plotting that swirls through the dizzying world of "Game Of Thrones," there is nothing quite as complicated as the gender politics that distinctively and often unpleasantly affects the show's characters. "Second Sons," the eighth episode, brings a closer, oft-uncomfortable scrutiny to bear on not just these frequently unusual relationships, but also all of the love and lust and sex that runs rampant through these lands -- not to mention the fear and happiness and fury and bitterness that is often created as a result.

We began with a most surprising new pairing -- the strange and menacing companionship of Arya and the Hound. Two of the most bitter and angry characters on the show -- with one genuinely loathing the other, who in turn genuinely loathes himself -- holds great potential for the future. Arya is forced to confront her hatred head-on, first by her refusing to risk attacking him, and then, by the sudden re-ignition of hope, something she had all but given up on. Suddenly, Sandor Clegane is the unlikeliest of saviors, proving that in the world of "Game Of Thrones," fate has a queer sense of irony indeed.

Meanwhile, in Dragonstone, the slithery, sinister plans of Melisandre continue in full. There is a terrifically rendered dichotomy between the two counselors that bookend Stannis -- the ruthlessness and seductiveness of the Red Woman versus the boundless loyalty and perhaps naive dedication of Davos Seaworth. And while the initial meeting between Melisandre, Stannis, and Gendry was intriguing enough, it was Stannis's nighttime visit to Davos's cell that was one of the episode's high points. It was a perfectly acted scene, with Stephen Dillane capturing the both the fevered irrationality of the true believer he has become as well as the anxious cautiousness of the pragmatist he once was. And despite all he has lost, all he has been subjected to, Davos remains steadfast and honest to a fault. The dialogue between them was some of the most real and honest the show has had, truly feeling like two friends with a vast chasm between them, each unsure how to reach for the other. In the end, we find Stannis, mouthing the words of a zealot, while at the same time seeking the wisdom of a friend.

Yet while that happens, there was the heated and grotesque sequence between Gendry and Melisandre. Generally speaking, I haven't been a huge fan of her character, though I don't necessarily blame Carice van Houten's performance. She's devoured the character voraciously enough, I suppose -- it's just that all of the even tones and smoky seductiveness never quite worked for me. This week, her performance rang far truer than in the past, and perhaps it was because the character works best when her madness is shining through. That madness, much as it was displayed when she bore the shadow creature before Davos's horrified eyes, was on full display here. What makes it so powerful and affecting is that in spite of all that was happening -- stripping herself bare, the overcharged sexuality of the whole scene, which was graphic even by "Game of Thrones" standards, the bondage and leeches -- she remains calm and focused and absolutely single minded. Yes, there was an element of gratuitousness to the scene, but Van Houten made it work -- aided by a solid depiction of Gendry's heady combination of lust and terror by Joe Dempsie.

In King's Landing, the wedding of Tyrion and Sansa serves as a perfect backdrop for the uneasy alliances and unwanted unions that the Sansa, the Lannisters, and the Tyrells find themselves embroiled in. This entire sequence -- the wedding itself as well as a supremely awkward and uncomfortable reception -- did an excellent job of showing just how fragile and downright uncertain Tyrion can be beneath his arrogant, acerbic facade. At the same time, it gave us yet more reason to find Joffrey Baratheon to be the most contemptible, disgusting and downright disturbing character in quite some time. From his childish cruelty towards Tyrion at the altar to his horrific promises to Sansa at the banquet, Jack Gleason yet again nails his character perfectly. As for Tyrion himself, the engagement and the wedding have brought out sides of him we've seen little of to-date. Tyrion is a genius, a schemer, a manipulator and a survivor. Yet he is also someone who understands what it means to be tormented, to be abused and neglected and as such, he has a surprisingly deep well of compassion and empathy for young Sansa Stark, leading to a display of purposefully drunken buffoonery that masks a curious and gentle sense of chivalry.

Of course, the other side of that coin is Cersei, whose bottomless contempt is barely masked at all anymore. Her hapless lack of control over Joffrey, coupled with her righteous fury over her new betrothal are creating a storm inside of her, and as a result she has abandoned all pretenses. For every bit of subtlety and doe-eyed, saccharine-sweetness that Margaery has, Cersei has venom and bitterness to match it. The chess game between them feels as though it is coming to a head, and Cersei's gruesome history lesson and vicious threat shows that perhaps she may not play the game as well, but she's still a dangerous force to be reckoned with.

Perhaps the most intriguing storyline this week was found at the other end of the world, as Daenerys Targaryen bides her time at the outskirts of the walled city of Yunkai. In an episode with several solid vignettes, Dany's meeting with the Second Sons was another of my favorites. The overt, obnoxious bluster of Mero, The Titan's Bastard, matched by the sultry slyness of Daario Naharis, created a delicious sense of tension as they all lazily, laconically threatened each other's lives. In the center of it was Daenerys, with another marvelous performance by Emilia Clarke (I reiterate that she has improved exponentially since her first season), quietly and calmly holding the anger of Mormont and Selmy at bay while remaining a bastion of self-contained and calculating nobility. Her winsome smile as she makes both offers and threats was effectively disarming, as was her steely eyed request that Selmy "kill him first" once they depart. Yet the final moments between her and the peculiarly devoted Daario (played by Ed Skein) were the most intriguing, as his odd mixture of steamy sexuality and hunger for violence present an all-new challenge for her -- in more ways than one.

Lastly, we travel north to visit Sam and Gilly. This was one of the few times that I've enjoyed a scene with Samwell Tarly, and it wasn't just because he killed a Walker in spectacular fashion. Sam's admissions about fathers and their various cruelties made his vulnerabilities and weaknesses seem disarmingly earnest and tragically honest, rather than annoyingly clumsy as in the past. There's a gentle sweetness about Sam, something that's so radically out of place that it's almost shocking at times. His conversation about the importance of names was genuinely and charming, and one of John Bradley-West's finer moments in the show. Yet it's that final moment where we learn many things -- that there's also a courage hidden in that self-professed craven, that there are terrifying creatures foretold by those ominous gatherings of crows, and that the death of the undead is possible -- and that such a death can be both beautiful and horrifying. What that means for the future of Westoros will be very interesting indeed.

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Comments Are Welcome, Bigots and Trolls Are Not

  • My husband and I cackled, the whooped and cheered when Tyrion stabbed that dagger into the table. That was an unbelievably awesome bit of acting by both Dinklage and Gleeson--holy shit. The insane amount of fury in Tyrion's face was incredible.

    This show is just so chuck-full of great little moments it just blows my mind. Like Olenna rambling about how fucked up their entire family is gonna become, and Cersei's hilarious "NO ONE CARES" to Loras, and Daario's naked-women daggers, just...everything. Everything is so perfect. I love it so damn much.

  • "Is that wise, my lord?"

    "Tyrion. My name is Tyrion."

    "Is that wise, Tyrion?"

    Hmm, like so many Pajibans, Sansa Stark wants her some Dinklage. Who knew?

  • I'm inspired to get super liquored up for my wedding, which is next week (no, two weeks). Hee hee.

  • John W

    Every time they stick close to the novels the episodes are better for it.

  • lowercase_ryan

    I think this episode proved that when we don't touch base with every storyline, the episode is better for it. I thought this was a great episode, it had a...depth? that last weeks lacked.

  • Sara_Tonin00

    Yeah, I just skimmed through it again, and fast forwarding realized they stick with the marriage sequence for quite a while, even though there are jumps in time. Other weeks they might have cut away to other characters, but this tactic let the story build nicely. I didn't miss Robb, Jon, Jamie/Brienne, Theon - and that's a lot of major characters to omit. Even Arya just had one tiny scene in the beginning.

  • $27019454

    Two things: I am absolutely relieved we did not visit Theon this episode because I don't think I could handle that. Also, This series is really messed u sexually. They love to mix sex with torture, anger, pain, freaky sh!t, etc. I like my sex dirty and crazy as the next gal, but this show is messing with me. A leech? Fhuuuuuu...

  • Bedewcrock

    The penis leech reminded me of the leech scene from Stand By Me when he faints. :)

  • Laura

    My first thought exactly.

  • Sara_Tonin00

    Ahhhh, just finished watching the episode, so much to say...

    I've always liked the Sam & Jilly scenes (even though the name Samwell annoys me to no end). I like having 2 characters, losers, who have no grand plans for the land or the wars - who are simple and ambitionless beyond trying to grasp the chance of survival, and maybe just a little bit of human warmth and friendliness. The fact that Samwell stepped outside that cabin touched me, and then taking further steps to protect the woman and child, not even thinking about his supposed cowardice - was lovely. (even if slightly improbable to me that the creature didn't just kill him outright, but whatever).

    I get where Stannis is coming from too - because the one thing that I have picked up on is that - as much as I don't wish it - the Lord of Light is manifesting itself, making its power known. Imagine if you were witness to a genuine Christian miracle, and all the "oh, shit" that would entail - that's the uncomfortable truth Melisandre presents.

    I welcome drunken Tyrion back. I disagree with the assertion we haven't seen this side of him - I've *missed* this side of him. And I was desperately wishing that Sansa could put away her fear and see in him the ally he is.

    and hellooo, Daario. I imagine Dany sees in him shades of Khal Drogo - a little less privileged, a little less coarse, more intelligent - but every bit the man of action. And incredible bone structure.

  • Kris

    I didn't even think about that. Barbaric and violent, killing as a mark of devotion, handsome, long hair - Blond Drogo.

  • Sara_Tonin00

    and a man who is demonstrating he wants to protect her - in that rash way that Drogo would, not the measured counseling of Ser Jorah. But she'd better realize she won't be able to manipulate Daario in the same way. And I love that he brought her the heads of the captains - I knew he was going to defect, that he wasn't going to murder her, but I couldn't figure out how he'd prove he was trustworthy. But he did.

  • BWeaves

    Ummmm! Bone Structure.

  • Mrcreosote

    Now I want the Wild Westeros Time Life Book Series:
    The Mountain once killed a man for snoring too loud.
    The Boltons once had a banquest where every course was an enemy of the house
    Many of house Greyjoy refuse to learn how to swim claiming that that which is dead cannot die.
    House Hufflepuff fields no army.
    House Skywalker does or does not. There is no try.
    House Hulk SMASH!

  • Sara_Tonin00

    Was this info about the Boltons revealed in an episode?

  • Mrcreosote

    No, I made that up based on the house in general. I think their larder is probably pretty scary.

  • Sara_Tonin00

    Ok - I barely know who the Boltons are but was burned last week on a big ole spoiler so I'm on high alert. :P

  • Tinkerville

    Every time there's an episode of GOT that doesn't feature much action and mostly dialogue I can count on one of my co-workers to say that it was terrible and boring (he's a twat). I know he'll say it tomorrow and I know I'll want to punch him for it, because these kinds of episodes are subtly brilliant.

    Emilia Clarke's cool headed acting has been spot on and she's really been nailing the continuous negotiation scenes this season. Olenna Tyrell outlining the insane royal family tree was one of my favorite moments of the season. And while I loved the killing of the Whitewalker, I was still disappointed that that didn't happen in front of his brothers. It was still fantastic to watch though and the addition of the crows was perfectly creepy. I do have to say that Daario just wasn't doing it for me.. the actor seemed to be trying a bit too hard.

    Can we just give Dinklage all the Emmys in stock already? And then some?

  • I'd like Jaime to at least get a nomination, tho.

  • Tinkerville

    Absolutely. There are so many people deserving of Emmys on GOT I wish there were room for more wins. Jaimie, Tywin, Brienne, and Olenna should all at least get nominations at this point.

  • yocean

    Hate be nit picky, but seeing as no one is pointing out; Stannis' castle is Dragon Stone, not Storm's End.

  • yocean

    i mean, Dragonstone. One word

  • Guest

    I worry for Daenerys with her ever growing circle of advisors.

    *Thanks Davos (the shadow assassin wasn't enough proof)?

  • koko temur

    dany is relatively safe for now as no one in westeros really belives she is posing any danger, and in the east she out match everyone. Im afraid that whenever danny would reach westeros, all our favorite characters from past seasons would already killed each other

  • Strand

    Great episode. Loved how the wedding turned out to be every awkward, shitty, creepy party you've been to. Sansa's a lot more sympathetic in the show, I remember hating her in the sept when she refused to kneel when Tyrion was throwing the cloak on, was waiting to see if she'd blink in the show.

    What was Shae looking for when she threw back the sheets? Stains? Condoms?

  • toblerone

    Blood from Tyrion taking Sansa "flower".

  • Strand

    If I remember right, the whole hymen bleeding = virgin thing has been discredited, even in that largely superstitious universe.

  • toblerone

    True, but in many cultures, shortly after weddings, new husbands were expected to produce bloody sheets to prove they'd (1) married virgins, and (2) consummated the marriage.

    I don't think Westeros would be any different.

  • Sherry

    Exactly. This is pretty much standard through our own history, so on a show where you believe in dragons, why not this? :)

  • MissAmynae

    Tywin wants proof. Both that Tyrion did his duty, and that Sansa's bumpwatch can start. Remember, that as many whores that Tyrion has bumped uglies with, no bastards have showed up. There is question of whether he can father a child or not.

  • Strand

    Sounds like such a weird, alpha male/caveman tradition. Like stuffing animal heads and mounting them above the fireplace.

  • toblerone

    Yep, but then G.O.T was created by a man and the show's writing staff is almost exclusively men.

  • Maguita NYC

    This is exactly why the books were hard to get through at times. A grown man writing about the rape of a 13 year-old girl as "surrendering her virginity to half a hundred men" (the little cousin's rape by the masses), is kind of a turn-off.

  • PDamian

    Fantastic episode all around, and excellent acting. I really enjoyed Arya and the Hound in particular; she's his hostage, and there's no love lost between them, but the dynamic is played in wonderfully subtle fashion, so much that Arya can ride before him and hold his back to steady herself without cringing.

    I'm developing a bit of a crush on Rory McCann, actually. I'm so glad he's getting exposure in this country now. And this is hilarious: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

  • If he says 'porridge' at any point during the show, I'll die.

  • Milly

    If you can legally view it/torrent it/find it, you should watch the UK comedy (but it's not really a sit com, and it's not a cringing comedy or even a drama) The Book Group. He plays a disabled fella in it and is very touching. In fact the whole series is worth a look.

  • Sam Underwood

    Its on netflix, or was last time I got on netflix.

  • Anne At Large

    I loved him in State of Play too!

  • MissAmynae

    and Hot Fuzz!

  • Guest

    %@#$!, I was wondering why he was so familiar but never realized he was in Hot Fuzz.

  • Tinkerville


  • Valar Morgulis

    Terrible Daario.

  • Carrie/Teabelly

    Agreed. He was awful. Not because of what he looked like so much as he wasn't a v good actor.

  • bibliophile

    I'm glad they left out the punk styling, actually. In the same way I'm glad they left out Renly's rainbow cloaked guards. But I concur that Daario should be bearded and scarred. Daario was no baby-faced cherub.

  • Christopher A

    Nope. Once again D&D and HBO saved GRRM from one of his juvenile tangents. Daario showing up as a fairy pirate with a three pronged blue beard would kill this show dead. We can buy dragons, snarks and grumpkins, but not that.

  • Agree. I thought he looked like that guy in my school who was sort of a burnout, but had some talent and brains, but didn't really give a f&ck. He wasn't hot enough or sharp enough to snag anyone's attention.

  • Sherry

    Really? I bought him much more here than in the book.

  • Mythra Sun

    I agree. I think if they went with the blue hair and 3 pronged beard, he would have looked ridiculous. What they needed to get across was his charisma and loyalty to Dany for the motivation of killing the others captains and they succeeded ..in my humble opinion.

  • I think it worked, but despite the actor and casting, not because of it. Or, sort of like Tom Cruise's entire career.

  • ohwhitneykay

    I've been on Team Hound for a while now. Always seemed like he sort of just played the hand he was dealt and I had little against him. The butchers boy? Thats why we were supposed to hate the fire-scarred brother/victim of the mountain? Nah. That bit of rationality aside, however, WHY ARE THERE ONLY TWO EPISODES LEFT and also WHAT AM I GOING TO DO FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR?

  • Mimi Honeycutt

    Read fanfic.

  • Kristen Mc

    Breaking Bad?

  • Maguita NYC

    Shit on True Blood. At least for the summer.

  • koko temur

    cry, possibly.

  • Palaeologos

    My God, was that a great episode. That's all I can say.

  • You know, last season when Headey had that drunk scene, I thought she might finally be getting better as an actress--but this season she has failed to impress. And this episode, in particular, she was awful. Barely present at all and conveying absolutely nothing.

    On much more positive notes, Dinklage, Gleason, Cunningham and Turner were at their best. Gleason's Joffrey is brilliantly despicable and fits his character to a T. Both Tyrion and Sansa broke my heart; I felt equally sorry for both of them. And Davos is one of my favorite characters--so glad Stannis let him out. Cunningham's reading scene was a moment of pure beauty.

    One of my favorite moments was Dame Rigg doing Lady Tyrell doing the new family tree. Brilliant.

  • Sara_Tonin00

    Oh, I disagree. I loved her scene with Margaery (wtf does GRRM give all these slightly-differently-spelled versions of real names? I hate him for that). And her two bits at the wedding - the instinctive way she tells Joffrey what to do, her exasperated/defeated reaction to him contradicting her (truly the mother of a teenager now) and then cutting down Loras....I feel that now she's becoming powerless and desperate, we're seeing even more levels from her.

  • $27019454

    I'll see your disagreement and raise you one um disagreement: Just my opinion, but from the first time we ever saw Cersei with that sour, "I smell something bad" look on her face at the Stark household in Season One, she has played this part completely one-note. I'm at the point at which I can't separate my hatred of Cersie with my hatred of the way the actress is unspectacularly murdering this role. Boring. Cersei should not -- above all things -- be boring. (edited thanks to Sara)

  • Sara_Tonin00

    I have been thinking that I'd like to go back and rewatch her scenes with Jaime from Season 1 - it's been so long since I've seen her interact with someone she actually loves.

    Sometimes I imagine Cersei is what Buttercup would've ended up like if she'd had to marry Humperdinck. (and had an incestuous love affair with her twin brother, it goes without saying)

  • $27019454

    Hahah. I am an idiot. Yes. Cercei should not be boring. And I have watched Season one recently: She's a bitter bitch who smells something bad.

  • Tinkerville

    That family tree bit was pure genius and who better to deliver that than the Queen of Thorns. The looks on Maergery and Loras's faces were delicious.

  • Eva

    But WHY did he leave the dragonglass behind!!? The whole room of people I watch the show with was cussing at him for that.

  • Badger

    If I remember correctly, in the book the dagger exploded when he killed the Walker. But I could be wrong.

  • foolsage

    From A Storm of Swords, ch 18:

    "Sam rolled onto his side, eyes wide as the Other shrank and puddled, dissolving away. In twenty heartbeats its flesh was gone, swirling away in a fine white mist. Beneath were bones like milkglass, pale and shiny, and they were melting too. Finally only the dragonglass dagger remained, wreathed in steam as if it were alive and sweating. Grenn bent to scoop it up and flung it down again at once. "Mother, that's cold."

    "Obsidian." Sam struggled to his knees. "Dragonglass, they call it. Dragonglass. Dragon glass." He giggled, and cried, and doubled over to heave his courage out onto the snow.

    Grenn pulled Sam to his feet, checked Small Paul for a pulse and closed his eyes, then snatched up the dagger again. This time he was able to hold it."

  • Kristen Mc

    I think it broke when he tried to use it on a wight that was wearing mail, no? I'm assuming that scene and the initial white walker scene were combined into what we saw last night. You are right, though, he does lose the dagger anyway.

  • toblerone

    Sam is (at this point) what some people might refer to as a "DUMBASS".

  • TraceAndM

    In the South we would politely say, "That Sam Tarly, bless his heart. Some people can't pour piss out of a boot if the directions were on the heel."

  • Strand

    For whatever reason, the show is making him out to be even more of a colossal fuckup than the books. It's like how he had one job to send the ravens and still failed.

  • Three_nineteen

    Well, he failed in the books too. He released the ravens but forgot to attach the notes to their legs.

  • Milly

    But the dispatching of the Walker was an intentional and brave moment in the show rather than - and forgive my hazy recollection - luck brought about by fear as it was in the books?

    But the raven thing still rankles.


    Agreed. Me too.

  • Hazel Dean

    YES! We all also shouted at him to pick it back up.

  • KatSings

    You really thought the Meli/Gendry scene was more graphic than the others? It involved less nudity and less actual sex than most of them do. The leech on the dick aspect was surprising, but the rest was tamer than a lot of the sex on this show.

    I loved the wedding and the reception. I'll admit, I'm a sucker for the Westerosi tradition with the cloaks - I think it's neat. And Dinklage KILLED IT this week.

  • Sara_Tonin00

    Watching - and loving - the wedding scene, I thought: next time I have a friend get married, I am going to make a montage of disastrous wedding scenes, and it will begin and end with this one. Fun family times.

  • MissAmynae

    I really missed the Grey and White direwolf cloak for Sansa. I was looking forward to that not-so-subtle reminder of Joffrey stripping her of everything she is (on the outside, at least).

  • PDamian

    In the coming year, I fully expect to see loads of couples incorporating a cloak in their wedding ceremonies and telling the assembled guests that it's an old Indian tradition, or some nonsense like that.

    And yes, Dinklage is king. I couldn't help but think during the bedroom scene that any other woman, or at least one who didn't have her head filled with knights in shining armor and courtly games, would have melted just a teensy bit at his kindness and consideration. Sophie Turner is a fantastic actress, but Sansa is becoming a real pain in the ass.

  • Alan

    A little bit of kindness and consideration is supposed to overcome being forced to marry a member of the family that is systematically trying to destroy hers?

  • PDamian

    No. But she's been in King's Landing for about a year now, and she's seen and been prey to some horrible shit -- from Lannisters, from unhappy Westerosi, and from others. She's been advised by Margaery, by Tyrion himself, and by Littlefinger. As a courtier, she's witnessed all sorts of nasty behavior. And in all that time, she's neither developed any sense of politics nor internecine struggle, nor has she learned how to bargain to get what she wants. Margaery gave her some good advice on manipulation just before her marriage, and Tyrion gave her a good opening. And she's still clinging to the notion that the handsome knight in shining armor will come for her, sooner or later. I don't give her a pass on age, either; Arya in her place would have built alliances or found a way to escape, and even Bran, with his talent for observation, would have figured out a way to play the game. Sophie Turner is playing the character beautifully, but the character is incredibly frustrating, and hard to like -- at least, for me.

  • sdx76

    TIL what internecine means. :D

  • bibliophile

    Well stated. I find this to be a troubling issue in the books as well. Arya, who is also a child and younger than Sansa, walked through the war. She witnessed horrors and was victimized by cruel and evil men. These experiences educated and shaped her as a person, and, for good or ill, she is at least an interesting and dynamic character.
    Sansa never seems to learn anything. Her head is truly full of songs. Hope is a beautiful thing, but Jeebus, girl . . .take a look around. Sadly, I think Sansa just isn't very bright.

  • Boothy K

    I haven't read the books but I am secretly hoping they eventually fall in love with each other and have lots of babies. Hahahahaha. I know it won't happen, but I can still be romantic about it. Maybe I'm just as stupid as Sansa!

  • Christopher A

    The show did Sansa a great favor in this scene. The book makes her come across much worse here.

  • Sherry

    Absolutely agree. I was dreading this because it was so (much more) awful for Tyrion in the book, and when Joffrey took away the step stool, I was dreading it even more so, but I like the way they went with it.

  • bibliophile

    I'm glad she knelt as well. It actually fits better with her armor of courtesy than the way it played out in the book.

  • Pain in the arse? I think it's kind of silly that most judge the characters by standards not really applicable in their given universe. They don't place themselves in the character's shoes for the entirety of their lifespan, rather insert themselves into a particular scene and say 'I'm here to put shit right.' Of course most would, given the cosmic opportunity, step into frame and ride Tyrion's wild stallion into the sunset; I'm pretty sure I would too, despite the inhibition of my sexuality. Would I ride him if I was a scared-shitless, virginal 14-year-old girl, whose last glimpse of her family was her father's head on a spike, whom the queen (Cersei, not Margaery) has regaled with terrifying wisdom nuggets on sex, rape and the general shitiness of men, and whose own experience with the species hasn't exactly been rose-tinted? Probably not.

    I think if anyone's to blame, it's Catelyn (or whoever is responsible for filling her head with gibberish about Prince Charmings). It's not her fault she's still having her original perception of the world shattered by everything that happens to her -- the word 'institutionalised' comes to mind. You may have frowned upon her when she got her hopes up about Loras and had that dream destroyed. She probably should have learnt by that point, right? It's easy to expect her to 'play the game', to think rationally. Would you? Honestly, would you? If, being Sansa, everything had been misery up to that point, and you saw a chance to live the dream, you would take it. Rationality be fucked.

    Cut the girl some slack.

    [apologies in advance for the typos]

  • Ozioma

    I request the highest of fives for this comment. Seriously getting tired of everyone saying that a fourteen-year old girl deserves everything that's happened to her on this show so far. Up to and including threatened to be raped by the person she was originally going to be married to.

  • ed newman

    I think it is also worth noting that if she was not naive and guileless she might be in a worse position entirely. It is her "manipulatableness" that has attracted protectors from Varys, to the Hound, to Littlefinger to Tyrion and the Tyrells. Granted, in most cases, her protectors are using her for their own purposes as well, but if she posed a threat of any kind, including mere scheming ability, she could well have been raped, tortured, or dead right now since she has no family or money to protect her. Her hostage status is all she's got, and look where that's gotten stubby Lannister.

  • Vince

    And don't forget she had just expected to marry Loras Tyrell and escaping from Joffrey to High Garden when Tyrion told her that she was marrying him instead and would stay.

  • Tinkerville


  • ohwhitneykay

    We're calling her Meri now?

  • Guest

    You mean Meli right?

  • ohwhitneykay

    Uh yeah. GoT is a helluva drug.

  • Alan

    and i shall dub him sam the slayer

  • kildarepaul

    Almost 10 years to the day (May 20 2003) that Buffy Ended, we get a new slayer!

  • JJ

    The Forgettor of Daggers.

  • Christopher A

    Why does Hollywood hate its audience? It would have cost them nothing to have Sam bend down and pick up the damn knife. Instead, they choose to insult the fans of the show for no reason. Sour note to a great episode;

  • JJ

    It's not so dramatic as to call it an insult to the fans, but it's doesn't match what's been established. I get that it was a wholly traumatic experience, but Sam has been so proud of and careful with keeping the dragonglass that him leaving it doesn't quite match up. Of course, we've yet to see if they'll draw attention to it later as another in the series of bumblings of "That's So Tarly."

  • PDamian

    Jeebus, so much this. I was screaming at my TV, "Don't forget the dragonglass! Go back, you moron!"

  • Cara

    I was also yelling at him for leaving the dragonglass - my husband was amused :)

  • stella

    To be fair, I thought he was going to drop the baby earlier in the episode

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