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And the Winner of the Late-Night Wars Is -- Jimmy Fallon?

By Dustin Rowles | Posted Under TV Reviews | Comments (45)



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I really don’t know how much the rest of you folks are really paying attention to the late-night wars. I know, from Facebook, Twitter, and the comments we get on late-night posts we run that almost all of the sympathy lies with Conan O’Brien, and none of it lies with Jay Leno, although occasionally, someone will mention that Leno was the first to be pushed out. That’s a little erroneous, I think, as Leno agreed to retire back in 2004, which is when this entire mess should’ve been taken care of in the first place. It was then that Conan first had the opportunity to leave, and it was then that NBC negotiated his transition to “The Tonight Show,” which Leno agreed to, for whatever reason, only to pull a last-minute Favre when it came time to actually retire.

Leno has always been a weaselly little ass-kisser, first engineering Dave’s ouster and taking over “The Tonight Show,” against Johnny Carson’s wishes (and Carson, inarguably the gold standard for late-night host, remained upset about it, refusing to revisit “The Tonight Show,” though he did meet with Dave a few times). Leno is and always has been a corporate kiss-ass, but let’s be honest about something else, too: He gets the ratings. He has broader appeal. He’s a no-talent hack, but he’s probably the only host that could’ve gained 5 million viewers a night in prime time, even if it was a huge disaster for the local NBC affiliates, which saw a 25 percent decrease in ratings over the last four months (and upwards of 45 percent in NYC, LA, and Philly). Let it be noted, however, that NBC attempted the same ploy with Dave back in the day, and he turned down the opportunity to do a five-night-a-week prime time show (I mention that only because everyone talks about what a novel idea it was to move Leno to prime time, despite the fact that they first came up with the idea 18 years ago).

Anyway, late night talk is a lucrative business, I suppose, but in the grand scheme, these shows are only getting between two and five million viewers a night, which is obviously a fairly small percentage of the American population (Jon Stewart’s ratings are even lower). Most people don’t watch any of the late-night shows, except when they are rocked by scandal, which can often elevate their ratings to the six or seven million range, or about what My Own Worst Enemy rates on ABC.

I happen to be one who does watch late-night television and, up until the revelations about Dave’s affairs (which took some of his mystique away for me), I watched his show religiously for 20 years (now, only semi-regularly). And during the last week or so, I’ve been watching a lot of talk shows, before I go to sleep and again when I wake up, where the first thing I usually do is watch all the coverage over on Gawker (I wish I had the gadgets to rip all the shows and create clips for our readers, too).

The latest? Word that NBC’s Jeff Zucker is determined not just to boot Conan from his “Tonight Show” post, but to freeze him out of another network, for up to three-and-a-half years, proof positive that NBC cares only for the bottom line, and makes me wish that their Thursday night block of comedies could find a new network so I could turn off NBC all together. Conan’s camp countered that this could soon end up in front of a judge, which isn’t good for anybody. (Update: Bill “The Sports Guy” Simmons, tweeted that “next week is Conan’s final week hosting the Tonight Show. His staff is trying to book big guests so he goes out with a bang. It’s true.”)

It’s interesting to see all the late-night hosts’ approach to the controversy, and make no mistake, every single one of them are talking about it (Jimmy Kimmell, even, did an entire show two nights ago dressed as Leno). You might be surprised, however, as to who — at least in my opinion — has fared the best through it all.

It’s Jimmy Fallon, believe it or not.

This is how it’s pretty much shaken up: Jay has continued to make mostly lame jokes, tried to position himself as the victim here (poorly, I might add), and has even taken a couple of swipes at Conan, which is petty as hell, in my opinion (last night, he took issue with Conan’s complaint that Conan had only seven months to prove himself, noting that he was given only four to prove himself in the prime time slot, never mind the fact that it’s been abundantly clear that Leno has been angling to get his old job back the entire time). Conan’s take has been mostly self-deprecating, to the point — really — where it’s almost uncomfortable. Like everyone, I really appreciated his open letter to “The People of the Earth,” but he’s not really showing any of that fighting spirit on his show — he’s resigned himself to the inevitable, which is an ungraceful exit, which will probably come any day now (and he may not even get a lame-duck tenure, as I feel like NBC is probably going to just pull him without even allowing him a proper goodbye, as soon as — perhaps — tonight.). If you’re a huge fan of Conan, you’d best be watching his show this week, as these episodes may be his last for a very long while.

Dave’s approach has been interesting, if only because he understands what Conan is experiencing, having been through the same wringer, although I get the feeling that Dave would’ve told NBC to cram it in their cram-hole a lot earlier and bolted. It’s kind of strange to see Dave sympathizing with his main competition (at least for the moment), and taking plenty of shots at Jay (and poor Carson Daly, who is something of an innocent bystander in this whole mess). Dave, however, is really relishing the moment, I think, because it’s further revealed Leno for what he is: A scheming son of a bitch who cares only about his own self interests (as Dave remarked last night, “When Johnny retired, he retired). I think it’s opening up a few old wounds for Dave, too, because — make no mistake — “The Tonight Show” was his dream job, and all he ever wanted was to follow his idol, Johnny Carson, which is what should’ve happened all along (if NBC had chosen Dave or Leno 18 years ago, they’d still have complete late-night supremacy, and there likely wouldn’t been the three-way competition there is now. “The Tonight Show” would probably have the same impenetrable foothold that “SNL” has over Saturday nights). At any rate, Dave’s been candid about it, self-deprecating, and extremely sympathetic to Conan, but the joy he’s taking in the destruction of late-night NBC is a little off-putting, even if it is understandable. (Dave’s Leno impersonation is to die for, however).

Meanwhile, both Jimmy Kimmell and Craig Ferguson, as outside observers, have been fairly entertaining as well. Kimmell has directed a lot of his show to exposing the absurdity of NBC’s choices and, really, Leno’s lack of talent (you can bet your ass that none of the other hosts would have have so easily mocked Dave — even during the sex scandal, most of the other hosts were mum, save for Leno who threw a few softballs, not that he’s capable of anything more). Meanwhile, Craig Ferguson has mostly just been critical of the way NBC has handled the situation, their disloyalty, and their generally shitty treatment of Conan. Worldwide Pants — which runs both Dave and Craig’s show — has often been critical of CBS, but they have to be feeling awfully goddamn good that they’re not over on NBC right now).

And then there’s Fallon. I’ve been watching a lot of Jimmy Fallon’s show of late (even before this debacle) and — while I doubt that many who don’t watch it, or never have will believe this — he’s really finding his way over on “Late Night,” and is proving to be a worthy successor to both Conan and Dave. He’s giving the show the same off-the-wall spirit as his predecessors, and — realizing he has nothing to lose, and only an audience to gain — is doing quite a bit of experimenting.

Here’s the thing, though: If Dave and Leno are cut from the same cloth as Carson, most of the rest of them are clearly molded after Dave — Conan’s more eggheaded, Ferguson is more acerbic, and Kimmell is more meat-headed, but they all seem to have a similar self-deprecating, mainstream edgy approach (Carson was self-deprecating, too, but it was far more genteel in nature, closer to the way the Leno is now).Their shows are all nearly identical, as if they’ve simply put their own spin and personality on the same format that has been in the works for 50 years: Monologue, segment, personal anecdote, interviews, musical guest, credits.

And while Fallon has borrowed a lot of those elements, he’s put a strangely refreshing post-irony spin on them. He’s amiable and awkwardly charming in the way that the way the others are not, save for the first few years of the Conan-era. I never really liked Fallon on “SNL” and God knows, I loathe his contributions to the big screen. But on late-night, he’s really made the fact that he doesn’t know what the hell he’s doing work for him, much like Conan did, coming out of nowhere to succeed Letterman. The difference is that Conan was an unknown, while Fallon is known, and generally viewed skeptically (as he was by me before I gave him an honest chance), which makes it an ever harder position to be in. On Fallon’s “Late Night,” there’s no smugness; there’s never any condescension; and there’s not an ounce of mean-spiritedness. For decades, late-night shows have capitalized at the expense of others. The first half-hour of any late-night show is really about making topical jokes (usually very bad ones) about politicians and celebrities, usually mixed in with a lot of self-deprecating humor, a little sarcasm, and maybe even a little smugness (save for Ferguson, who wouldn’t know smug if it swallowed him whole).

But Fallon: He’s trying new things. Lots of new things. They fail as often as they work, but he’s trying. And so far, at least from what I’ve seen, he’s not trotting out the same gimmicks to the point of tiresomeness (Headlines, Will It Float, Triumph the Insult Comic Dog). Fallon, on the other hand, cracks out Taboo, and brings his audience members in to play it with guests. He appeals to the younger demographic, but not in the phony way that Leno is aiming to do, which is to air a segment of YouTube videos or occasionally pay lip service to Facebook. Social networking and modern technology isn’t a novelty to Fallon — it’s just part of daily life to him, and it’s given no special treatment. Sure, Fallon gets nervous around his guests, and while it can create an awkward interview, that awkwardness is strangely endearing. He asks unusual questions (which can often elicit blank stares), and he’s always deferential. He’s not trying to pry; he’s not trying to elicit private details; he’s trying to have a good time with his guests. And in a backwards sort of way, it works — he’s so disarming, that his guests open up even more, as if to ease the awkwardness. They don’t feel threatened by him, the way so many do with Dave, or with Leno, who actively attempts to wheedle out the gossip. (And as much as I do like Conan, he’s never gotten past his weakness for interrupting his guests to make his own, usually self-deprecating jokes, the way that Jon Stewart often does, as well. Even when they’re talking to other people, they often want to keep the focus on themselves).

Let’s not forget, either, that Fallon has the best house band of any of the shows, in The Roots, who he actually uses, not as punchlines to his jokes, but as equals. They’re not sidekicks or comic foils — they are an intricate part of the show. And they are awesome, y’all. Fuck Weinberg, Paul Schaffer, Kevin Eubanks, and the rest of them; The Roots really fucking bring it, and if you’re a musical act, Jimmy Fallon’s show is where you want to play, because it’s the only place where you can get the backing of The Roots.

Finally, I think that Fallon’s approach to the late-night controversy is ultimately what’s been so revealing about the character and personality of his new show — he’s not trying to bring down anyone. He’s not trying to score points. He’s not trying to say something during his tapings that will hit YouTube before the show airs. He’s cordial. He’s grateful. And he’s appreciative (for evidence of that, check Fallon’s second clip, here). Most of us, even those who don’t regularly watch late-night television, tend to align with a particular host, often out of simple loyalty to what we grew up with. But we often forget that these men are paid millions of dollars to do what they do (and no one is claiming they don’t deserve it, except for Leno). But most of them do seem to have a small sense of entitlement, even Conan, who feels (and rightfully so, perhaps) that he’s owed that opportunity to find an audience (never mind that NBC never gave Dave the seven months that Conan has had to prove himself). But there is none of that in Fallon’s attitude, and perhaps that has a lot to do with his status as the newcomer. But it doesn’t make it any less refreshing. He’s like a little puppy trying to gain your affection — sure, he tries too hard sometimes. But it’s cute. And I, for one, appreciate the effort, and the fact that he is trying to win us over, instead of just assuming we’ll return night after night out of rote loyalty.









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Comments

Yeah,
He wasn't such a doof last night.
I said DOOF not DOUCHE.
Whatever, you can't hear me anyway.

Posted by: Anon at January 14, 2010 3:19 PM

Every now and then, a Fallon clip comes up that actually makes me laugh. Still, I will always, ALWAYS, root harder for Ferguson than any of the other hosts. He has the toughest job of all; he's got the lowest budget, no house band, no sidekick. He has to carry that show almost 100% by himself. And, save his sketches which are unbearable, he does a great job of it. I've found that with every person I tell, "Here, watch Craig Ferguson for one week, just one week, and then get back to me," people all have the same general response: 'At first he was annoying, I didn't like him, then by about day three I loved him, and now I'm hooked.' He's the most affable of the hosts, and he has a terrific respect for his audience, as if we're all in on a joke with him that's secret to the people at CBS and the rest of the outside world. Have you seen this clip?

http://watching-tv.ew.com/2009/07/22/craig-fergusons-brilliant-analysis-of-why-everything-sucks/

What other late night host would rant about the deification of youth and not talk down to the audience like they were idiots?

Fallon may be coming along, but I think this whole debacle just makes Ferguson look better and better.

Posted by: ChristianH at January 14, 2010 3:21 PM

I'm just surprised that Rowles reads The Sports Guy.

Posted by: John Denver's Wingman at January 14, 2010 3:30 PM

Today, I watched my kitten run headfirst into walls while chasing flies around the apartment. At first it was cute and funny and endearing, but it has since lost its charm and I think there's something really wrong with the fact that this happens.
I don't know why I thought of that while reading about Jimmy Fallon.

Posted by: Jim Doggie at January 14, 2010 3:32 PM

I never watch Late Night TV. Back in the day, I saw parts of several episodes of the Conan O'Brien show (the old one) and I've seen parts of various episodes of Letterman and Carson, but I don't recall ever watching an entire episode (or show, or whatever you call them). The same goes for Saturday Night Live.

I've seen many, many skits, but I never watch the show and don't think I've ever watched a full episode.

These shows are just totally off my radar. That said, I think Letterman and Conan are funny and wish the best for them.

Posted by: Forbiddendonut at January 14, 2010 3:35 PM

I'm with Forbiddendonut.

I mean, I like Conan. I like Ferguson. I like Kimmel, though mostly when he's ripping on Matt Damon. I'm willing to give Fallon a free pass. And Letterman's alright, when I'm feeling like a touch of dry humor instead of the saucy snarkness that makes my pants happy.

But I live on the east coast of Canada. Atlantic Time Zone. The 11:30 shows, for me, have always been at 12:30 and by that point of the night I usually either have to work in the morning, or I'm out with friends.

And if I'm not, then it doesn't matter anyway. Because any time after midnight is Porn O'Clock. I have my priorities.

Posted by: spideychris at January 14, 2010 3:46 PM

And in a backwards sort of way, it works

That's your opinion, Sir Dustin, and I have to say, no, not really.

Yes, his band fucking rocks, and yes, he's not mean. But watching him makes me wanna jump out of my skin because it's just so awkward (Oh and anyone who says, "awkward situations make me smile," please go take off your hipster t-shirt, because on national television, it makes me cringe.)

But there is none of that in Fallon’s attitude, and perhaps that has a lot to do with his status as the newcomer.

Yea, it has EVERYTHING to do with his status as a newcomer. If he's been around for as long as any of them, I am willing to bet that he would not be so pup-like. So no, i don't think his attitude is particularly "refreshing." Just awkward.

Posted by: dene at January 14, 2010 3:48 PM

So I keep hearing about how Leno brings the ratings, but his show has failed miserably in the 9/10pm slot and has lost viewers for all the affiliates, and by domino effect lost Conan a lot of viewers (because for some reason Americans are too lazy after 10pm to hit a number on a remote control). Obviously it's not Leno, it's that people just settle in to watch whatever comes on after the news. Why should he get his old slot back? He gambled, he lost.

Posted by: PaddyDog at January 14, 2010 3:52 PM

So Fallon is, despite doing this for almost a year, still an awkward dork. And this is your argument in favor of Jimmy Fallon?! It sounds like you're talking about a fat, clumsy 7-year-old at a dance recital. "He tries so hard, bless his heart."

Posted by: Tracer Bullet at January 14, 2010 3:57 PM

ChristianH, that's a great clip.
I do like Ferguson, quite a lot.

Posted by: Odnon at January 14, 2010 4:11 PM

Leno fucked up, royally. If he had retired when he said he would, and not threatened to go to another network or bitched about being 'forced out,' he likely would've had a good legacy. For the most part, people had forgotten about the late night wars, and those who did remember would look back and see Leno, a guy who (by most accounts) is a pretty decent, hard working guy, and Letterman, who had his legacy tainted by an affair with a staffer. Then they'd see that Leno won the ratings war, too, and ultimately, they'd come to the conclusion that, though very controversial at the time, Leno was ultimately the right choice for the Tonight Show.

Unfortunately, that is not what happened. Leno complained about his retirement, threatened to jump ship so that NBC would do whatever it could to keep him around, and combined with Jeff Zucker's "Anything for a buck" mentality, completely and totally destroyed NBC late night. Leno's show tanked. Therefore, everything that aired after it suffered. Make no mistake: ratings for late night do, at least in part, consist of people who turn on a TV show at 9:00 and fall asleep, leaving their TV on until midnight or 1 am. There are also people who simply turn something on, and don't feel like changing it, so it becomes routine. Leno tanking resulted in news shows tanking, which meant an awful lead-in for Conan.

What is really annoying is that Leno and Zucker's stance seems to be "Its Conan's fault."

Leno is fucked. He destroyed his reputation with an older generation through his fucking over of Letterman, and now he has destroyed his reputation with a new generation by fucking over Conan. In the end, Fallon isn't the winner. CBS, Letterman, and Ferguson are. People will simply switch to Dave, and then leave it on for Ferguson. If Leno did take the Tonight Show back, I don't think it will come close to regaining the ratings that were lost through this entire thing, and ultimately, I think this was exactly what CBS and Letterman needed to finally start winning the late night ratings war. From here on out, I feel like late night ratings are Letterman's to lose, and no matter who stays on to host the Train Wreck that is The Tonight Show, they're ultimately screwed.

Final thought: I have been catching Ferguson more lately, and I do agree. I love his show, and he is quickly emerging as the best late night host.

Posted by: D26 at January 14, 2010 4:35 PM

Wow the only talent less hack in here is this god awful “Dustin Dumped My Bowles”……

Wait, that’s not fair, you did give props to The Roots.

My god though please get off your knees, you blow Jimmy any harder and he seriously might consider switching sides.

You’re a Letterman fan too, wow. Just when you thought things could get worse.

Like I said in other posts, this isn’t the comics fault this is an NBC issue, like any of the comics don’t want to keep doing what they love…… Good thing this site is for Bitchy folks!

Respect to Leno & O’Brien

*Bonus Tip Edit your driveling rants down a few paragraphs please, so there at least entertaining!

Posted by: QuickDime at January 14, 2010 4:37 PM

Am I crazy, or can this whole debacle be solved if NBC would just simply fire Leno. Is there that much of a demand to hold onto him, or are they just too far in debt to just pay off his contract?

I'm not rooting for his unemployment but I'm sure he can find something to occupy his time.

Posted by: J Stride at January 14, 2010 4:38 PM

"He tries so hard, bless his heart."

Hee hee hee. Oh, so true.

I've never watched Fallon, so I can't offer an opinion. If I am up that late, I watch Ferguson, no question. And no, I don't have one of those new-fangled "DVR" thingies. I think it was on Pajiba some time ago that one of the writers said that Craig Ferguson really does the best job with the guests. He doesn't just babble about whatever the guest is there to sell, or suck up to them massively. He just starts a random coversation that goes in a random direction, and for the most part the guests respond well to that and seem to have a good time.

Here's probably the thing I hate most about Leno: the constant gay jokes at Kevin Eubanks. Seriously? WTF?? This is funny? (I guess to Middle America [the state of mind, not the geographic region], it is funny.)

There are plenty of funny gay jokes to be told. "Ha ha you're a fag" isn't one of them.

Posted by: MM at January 14, 2010 4:39 PM

Sooo, people actually watch this shit?

Posted by: Lindsey with an 'e' at January 14, 2010 4:40 PM

I thought Jimmy Fallon and Jimmy Kimmell were the same person.

Posted by: BWeaves at January 14, 2010 4:45 PM

You wrote: "And as much as I do like Conan, he’s never gotten past his weakness for interrupting his guests to make his own, usually self-deprecating jokes, the way that Jon Stewart often does, as well. Even when they’re talking to other people, they often want to keep the focus on themselves."

There it is. Thank you.

Posted by: superasente at January 14, 2010 5:00 PM

J Stride:
Probably the best case for NBC is Conan vacating the Tonight Show, and tying him up for years in contractual litigation to keep him from Fox, then Leno goes back to his old job, has a chance at his old ratings, and the whole thing was just a bad memory.

If Leno gets canned, then he potentially could go to Fox, which would not be good for NBC... But it would open up Leno's old time slot for more highly rate programming.

Since I will never forgive NBC for canceling Journeyman, I hope they rot in hell and lose both Conan and Jay.

Posted by: logar at January 14, 2010 5:39 PM

Thanks logar. I understand why they won't just fire Leno because of the power they wield over Conan and the relationship they have with Leno, but in the end it will just create a larger mess for NBC to have clean up. Think of all the lawyer fees, program schedule changes, and advertising costs they can save by making the right decision now, not to mention avoiding the bad P.R..

Too often these large companies make mistakes, and instead of apologizing and correcting the obvious, they drag it out. Some executive with too much ego and too little talent has to point the finger and start a blame game, when really he should consider it a lesson learned from an understandable risk.

Posted by: J Stride at January 14, 2010 5:52 PM

I don't think a lot of your late night assessment applies to Ferguson. He's never struck me as ungrateful or having a sense of entitlement. He's great with his guests too.

Posted by: Jennie at January 14, 2010 6:29 PM

I'm with ChristianH, Odnon and D26, Ferguson is the best of the bunch.

Posted by: EricD at January 14, 2010 6:45 PM

What's really refreshing about Fallon is that he's actually genuine, or else he's really good at pretending. Every time he has a guest on he seems like he's actually a fan of theirs. He may be awkward and uncomfortable, but he's so stoked on life that you hardly notice how little his audience laughs.

Posted by: Abby at January 14, 2010 7:16 PM

Jimmy Fallon is the only (and I mean the only) "famous" person to come from my hometown so it's kind of a law that I need to defend him all the time, but I'm decidedly 'mehh' about him on Late Night. Sure, he might be taking the high road, so that may give him a victory.... but really, Conan is growing a pair and it's glorious to watch. I would follow that luscious mane of hair into hell.

Posted by: Cruise at January 14, 2010 7:47 PM

I'm on Team Handler and Team Stewart, so I don't give a rat's ass about any of those chumps on network TV.

When I do watch one of the nets' late night talkers, I have to say I find Kimmel's show the most consistently entertaining.

Posted by: Slash at January 14, 2010 7:56 PM

I never watch late night, too - watched Conan's first episode out of curiosity and did not get the humor at all. Wasn't my cup of tea. But this whole thing has been fascinating to watch from afar. There's just no great outcome for everyone and it seems to have all stemmed from Leno not following through on his word and then delivering a shitty program that probably shouldn't have been scheduled the way it was in the first place. If not for NBC's comedy block, the network wouldn't have much of anything to stand on.

Nicely written summary, too, Dustin. Even though apparently people can only digest tweet-sized bits of info these days (::cough:: QuickDime).

Posted by: whatBENwatches at January 14, 2010 7:59 PM

I really like this, Dustin, and I agree with a lot of what you said. I'm an avid late-night television watcher, and this controversy is killing me. I love Conan, and I love Fallon nearly as much. Their block of programming is my favorite thing on TV right now. I'll be watching these last few nights of the Tonight Show on edge, expecting it to be pulled from my grasp at any moment.

Posted by: k.b. smith at January 14, 2010 8:24 PM

I've always loved Ferguson, since his Drew Carey Show days, and was plenty excited to discover he had a talk show. Unfortunately, now I live in residence with no TV, so I never get to see him.

But I'm glad to hear he's doing well.

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Posted by: Betty at January 14, 2010 10:25 PM

I haven't been terribly impressed with Jimmy Fallon, BUT the man is VERY nice and does seem to be genuinely charmed by the whole affair, and I DO have to say that I love the Real Housewives of Late Night.

Posted by: Rowen at January 14, 2010 11:45 PM

I will watch Jimmy Fallon when he learns to wear a suit like a grown-up person and not like a child playing in daddy's closet.

Posted by: Lola at January 15, 2010 12:01 AM

ChristianH,

You're right about Ferguson -- I've never been able to get past the first "annoying, I hate him" five minutes. (FWIW, it's the same with Conan. The moment he starts to weird dance, I'm outta there.)

Also, I have to turn on the closed captioning because I can't ever understand what the fuck he's saying. That doesn't help.

Posted by: , at January 15, 2010 12:13 AM

What kind of a dumbass hates Ferguson!?! I love him, he is easily the most thoughtful of any of the network hosts.

I started watching Letterman at the tender age of eight, I've been a fan since. I also watched Conan for years. I consider the first few years with Andy Conan's Late Show prime, I wanted him to do well but my tv watching loyalties fall with Letterman. He and George Carlin influenced me more on politics/Hollywood than anyone. I would not be the person I am today had it not been for them.

I like Fallon (his Neil Young singing the Fresh Prince was fucking awesome), I like Kimmel (I'm fucking Matt Damen and ripping Jay a fucking new one tonight on Jay's show, AMAZING!), and I love Ferguson (he is intellectually delightful).

I'm glad that Stewart and Colbert are ignoring the whole mess.

I love that Zucker ( FU Zucker!) and Jay the back stabbing, show stealing, corporate kiss up hack is getting back some of the bad karma he has earned. To diss Conan tonight and last night is fucking gross, his image is trashed! He is damaged goods and it will be great to get to see Letterman finally get to kick Leno's fucking ass in the ratings.

Also seeing Conan on Letterman and/or Stern on Conan getting to trash NBC and Leno is going to be the best late night ever! I cannot fucking wait.

Also for any that missed it, Hitler finds out that Leno is taking back the tonight show, OMG so funny!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOQvsuJ5wIA

Posted by: Mebe at January 15, 2010 1:39 AM

Sorry , I'm not calling you a dumbass. I started typing this forever ago and by the time it posted your comment showed up. I think you are funny as hell and I am sorry that you can't appreciate Ferguson. As long as we can both agree that Leno sucks all is good.

Posted by: Mebe at January 15, 2010 1:42 AM

Oh and Stern says that Conan is going on Letterman as soon as he can, OMG best late night EVER!

Posted by: Mebe at January 15, 2010 1:44 AM

Nice piece.
Though I like that Fallon is trying a ton of new things I feel no desire to watch it because Id rather wait until he hits his stride and figures out what works and doesnt work. Ferguson makes me laugh numerously every night. Mostly because he is so unhollywood and you are trying to figure out this foreign guy and what semi-controversial thing he is going to say next. Just like Dave, Craig never insults his audience and I love him for it.

Posted by: malon at January 15, 2010 4:43 AM

I don't know why I keep reading these articles. I don't really know what's going on, or why it's such a big deal, or who has which show. I don't even know if we get those shows here, shoved on some satellite channel at 3 am a week after they air in the States. But I'm finding it quite interesting. I should probably look up some of the back story so I can get and riled up about it on your behalf.

Posted by: Carrie (aka Teabelly) at January 15, 2010 4:43 AM

Not sure why that 'and' is there. Good and riled up maybe? Pssh, it's early.

Posted by: Carrie (aka Teabelly) at January 15, 2010 4:49 AM

Leno: just another thing Hicks got right 15 years before anyone else

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfkvpcjNk7c

I miss Bill.

Posted by: Squirrelgripper at January 15, 2010 9:44 AM

Love Bill Hicks! That clip is wonderful!

Posted by: Mebe at January 15, 2010 3:49 PM

People, can you believe this?? Leno's written an open letter in response to Conan's open letter.

I didn't care for Jay before, but now I really detest him. His letter was smug and arrogant and seriously unfunny. The fact that it was just a Mad Libs version of Conan's letter just goes to show how lazy he is. He may be capable of writing something as funny and genuine as Conan's letter (although I haven't ever seen evidence of it), but he can't be bothered to think of anything original, oh, no.

TEAM COCO!!!

Posted by: Jelinas at January 15, 2010 6:49 PM

What I appreciate most about Jimmy Fallon's show is that it feels like a show for me and not for my parents.

He has the best band in the business, plays silly games, and he really makes his guests feel comfortable. He also has terrific sketches and an excellent announcer in Higgins.

Posted by: MiniTs at January 15, 2010 7:54 PM

Joel McHale: Funnier on his worst day than Fallon is on his best.

Better-looking, too.

Posted by: samantha t at January 16, 2010 4:53 PM

To write, fuck Paul Schaffer cuz Jimmy has the Roots seems to make me think that you are biased. I mean Paul Schaffer and his band are no bunch of talentless musicians. They
are a band of solid musicians that have played many venues including the Rock and Roll Hall of fame. I disagree with that point in this article. I think Paul Schaffer deserves more.

Posted by: suaman at January 29, 2010 1:43 AM

You like Fallon because: "...no smugness; there’s never any condescension; and there’s not an ounce of mean-spiritedness..."

You are describing Letterman who is smug and condescending and mean-spirited and these are the reasons why I tuned him out years ago. He's toned it down some, but Letterman is still whiny and self-pitying and stopped being funny when he lost his bid for the Tonight Show.

'No talent hack' (Leno) but at least he makes me laugh. His talent is hard work gathering 30-40 writers who know how to put a monologue together. He is likeable with broad appeal, so what, should we shoot him because he isn't Letterman or Carson.

I am glad you see Fallon the way I do. I had heard his show has been panned, I didn't really understand because I enjoy it. He is having fun, the show is light and breezy, he is the fun kid down the block when you went to visit there was always something fun to do. I love his 'Thank you Letters' bit, where he writes thank you letters to famous people and as he is writing you hear a voice over of what he is writing. Fresh, original.
So what if he isn't hip or snide or going for the jugular.


Good luck Jimmy.

There is a best seller waiting to be written and the inevitable follow up TV movie...Daniel Roebuck can reprise his role as Leno...who to play Conan...maybe he will play himself, apparently he will have time on his hands.

I don't worry about Conan, he is too talented to be idle long. I don't think he is a fit for the West Coast, too edgy and educated. Where ever he lands, he should do his show from New York.

Posted by: Mercedes at January 30, 2010 10:35 AM

I'm here 'cause Jimmy is just too god damn fucking funny!

I did not know who he even was until after the late night shakeup. 'cause I'm gettin old.

Don't even try to compare Jimmy to Conan. Can't be done. If you want to compare Jimmy to someone, try Johnny.

In short (to recap for you political morons predisposed to your point of view), and to be as concise as I can be in the limited space you fucking 140 character junkies allow, Jimmy Fallon is Funny.

If you don't get it... try a lobotomy. Now that would be really fucking hilarious.

Posted by: why at May 8, 2010 1:27 AM