10 Reasons You Shouldn't Even Consider Bothering with Seth MacFarlane's Sh*tty, Thoughtless and Offensive Sitcom, 'Dads'
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10 Reasons You Shouldn't Even Consider Bothering with Seth MacFarlane's Sh*tty, Thoughtless and Offensive Sitcom, 'Dads'

By Dustin Rowles | TV Reviews | September 18, 2013 | Comments ()

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Besides the fact that it is a multi-camera laugh-track sitcom in which there is absolutely nothing worth laughing at, that it’s the lowest point in the careers of all four of the leads (Seth Green, Giovanni Ribisi, Martin Mull, and the Oscar nominated Peter Riegert), and the entire pilot is skull-crushingly dumb, here are 10 more reasons you shouldn’t give Seth MacFarlane’s first foray into live-action television a shot.

1. Nagging, shoe-tapping shrew of a wife.

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2. Jokes at the expense of the Hispanic maid, and later jokes insinuating the Giovanni Ribisi’s wife is the maid, because she is Hispanic.

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3. Shirtless (and bottomless) Martin Mull, who says to Ribisi’s wife after he lost his towel that there’s no reason to wear clothes anymore, since she’s already seen his business.

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4. This (in addition to the catcalls from the studio audience). Plus the Hello Kitty joke.

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5. Martin Mull’s reference to “the Orientals,” and later a reference to the the Chinese people, “who are lovely, but you can’t trust them.”

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6. The gross loss of dignity for the once well-admired Seth Green, who even had the audacity to suggest that Dads isn’t offensive because it also makes fun of white men. Here he is making a weird Hitler joke at the expense of Jews.

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7. The Asian schoolgirl laugh, followed by the Asian men filing it away for their spank banks.

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8. Suggesting that the title for a boxing game should be “Punch the Puerto Rican.”

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9. “Where the gay guy? Show me your gay guy.”

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10. A full 45 seconds of jokes about the small penis of an Asian man.

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  • e jerry powell

    This can't just be about "Robot Chicken," Seth McFarlane has something on Seth Green.

  • Jo 'Mama' Besser

    I know that the television landscape has changed in a lot of irritating ways since McFarlane arrived, but shouldn't some of that scorn be saved for the writers, or show creators or showrunners, or whatever (I don't speak 'behind the scenes' so apologies if my terminology is off)? I'm not disputing that the most corrosive elements of his influence are all over this, but as he's only the producer, I think we can treat the creatively depressed individuals who bear even more responsibility for this show than Tedious Uncle Seth like adults and criticize their work (which is apparently terrible, I'll never know, as a team of lasers couldn't turn my skull orbs towards the general direction of this program) rather than solely take aim at their spirit guide. There is a school of McFarlane, that's what's happening right now.

    But listen, we all know that this is going to go the way of The Winner so don't forget that this will all be over soon and after that, don't freaking ask me why Seth Green is always everywhere because I don't freaking know the answer to that!

    1, 2, 3, 4! Four Asian fetish photos posted, a-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha! Yeah, you're as outraged by this as any the men I know would be. Thou doth protest too transparently.

  • John G.

    Dustin hates seth macfarlane almost as much as I hate American Horror Story

  • Ben

    Man I want to love Seth Green so much... but I wouldn't touch this show with another guys dick.

  • Is that the Suddenly Susan set?

    Because I don't know what else to say about this.

  • hellooldchum

    Who cares if it's offensive? What's your point when you say, it's offensive?

    Also, didn't Pajiba post an article about getting to see all the nude scenes in some show earlier? Get off your high horse, yo.

  • Yocean

    Fucker gone done it. Sure, I like Brenda Song in school girl uniform as any men would but this just make it so contrived and non enjoyable. Fuck you Sth MacFarlane.

  • SpongebobSquarepeg

    Stop telling me what not to watch, you Nazis. I can not watch stuff of my own volition. And there's such a thing as 'subjectivity', you know. We don't all drink the Kool Aid around here, jeez.

  • Slash

    No, Seth McFarlane is fucking hilarious. I read it on the internet (somewhere else). So it must be true.

  • wsapnin

    Here is reason #11. It's just not that funny.

  • Sean

    Even though he is getting paid a great deal of money, is there anyone else who feels bad for Martin Mull?

  • ZbornakSyndrome

    Mr. Mull deserves so much better. Save Colonel Mustard!

  • Calla Dain

    He doesn't need any help to look stupid!

  • Brown

    You could have stopped at one reason, Seth being involved.

  • Wrestling Fan

    The only thing that really offended me was the mediocrity of the show. For all the controversy brought up before the show's debut, it ended up being spectacularly dull.

  • Al Borland's Beard

    This. None of the "humor" in it could offend me more than the total lack of it.

  • UnderTheDark

    I was so wanting to give Seth Green the benefit of the doubt here... I mean, they're OBVIOUSLY playing despicable characters and we're supposed to be laughing at them, not with them, right? Not according to the laugh track we're not. All of the actual morally-conscious human beings (Vanessa Lachey, Brenda Song) are dismissed out of hand, and we're supposed to wink and laugh at all of the sexist racist crap coming out of the main character's mouths. BOO!

  • Chester Percival Bone

    CHARACTERS! You can't write or portray a racist/sexist/whatever-ist character without being seen as endorsing/reinforcing those values, I reckon. Personally I appreciate that we get to laugh at these ridiculous stereotypes rather than pretending they don't exist.

  • lily

    Except guess what Chester? The use of the laugh track makes it abundantly clear we're supposed to be laughing at the jokes themselves and not the fuckwit bigots spewing them.

  • ERM

    So the argument of everyone defending this show is that it was obviously going to be a bad show and therefore we should not say that it is in fact a bad show? Internet logic at its finest.

  • supergwarr

    i am not defending this show. but isn’t the crassness or it's always sunny
    what first drew people to the show? everyone on that show is a despicable

  • emmalita

    The despicable characters on Always Sunny are the butt of the joke. They aren't making jokes about other people. We are clearly laughing at them not with them.

  • Jezzer

    Exactly. You're not supposed to come out of an episode of "It's Always Sunny" with the idea that these are people to admire and emulate.

    Of course, the fact that there are people out there who DO admire and emulate them is a topic for another time.

  • Smithers

    it's depends on each show. IASiP has a different framework. No laugh track and doesn't have to rely on racist or derogative remarks for the basis of the entire show. Dads is just lazily offensive.

  • Classic

    That show was awful. It was trying to be a live action Family Guy and it just sucked... a lot.

  • angel of upvotes #1 fan

    I liked it. It was funny and the chicks were (mostly) hot. Seth McFarlane wins again.

  • The Double Standard

    Dude, you're trying way too hard. It's like you're Anne Hathaway. Unfortunately for you, there are no Oscars for anthropomorphic personifications.

  • angel of upvotes #1 fan

    Fuck the Oscars I want beer.

  • emmalita

    You are getting so lazy. If you had really done your job the show would star Brenda Song and an out of shape middle aged white guy, who played her husband. She would run a high powered ad agency that specializes in using sex to sell as an act of empowerment. She and the other women and gay men in the firm would prance and talk about how emotional they were and their periods. She would go home every night and dress in the Asian School Girl outfit to cook dinner for her husband, who would sneer and tell her how dumb she was. He would spend his days getting into shenanigans and hi-jinks.

  • ZbornakSyndrome

    That sounds like a top ten sitcom. One note: shouldn't the wife run a lingerie company? And sometimes the models come home with her? Shenanigans!

  • emmalita

    I think you could really widen the scope of misogyny if you made her an ad exec. She could also have a less attractive older friend...WAIT! Why am I doing Active Misogyny's job for him? That fucknuckle! That's how he gets you.

  • ZbornakSyndrome

    Damn my little female brain! Always falling for tricks!

  • angel of upvotes #1 fan

    I'm a white guy. I don't have to make an effort.

    Your show sounds pretty funny. You need to cut everything but the girls in costumes.

  • emmalita

    This is why Macho Patriarcado and Pimp Rapper are cutting into your territory. Pretty soon you're only going to be on the CMT channel.

  • angel of upvotes #1 fan

    Girls in costumes are girls in costumes. They don't gotta talk.

  • GroverJefferson

    What's sad is that the two jokes I actually laughed at were actually pretty decent and not at the expense of any stereotype.

    (1) When Seth Green gets the framed glamor shot of his dad for his birthday, he proclaims that his dad "looks like a disgraced science teacher" in it.

    (2) When he leaves the party shortly thereafter, storming into the bedroom to get his coat, he storms out, stating it was not the coat room but the room of a sleeping child, and that he apologizes if he roughed the kid up in mistaking him for a pile of coats on the bed.

    Both of those are classic MacFarlane goofs, and proof that his style has room in it for more than just lazily offensive (Hell, I'll even grant him the "you shaved my head before we went to Disneyworld!" "we got free lunch with goofy, didn't we?" exchange featured in the promos... I laughed, but I didn't feel good about myself afterward).

  • Jane

    come on, this is the guy that created Family Guy ( you know, the pedophile grandpa, the legless guy etc)..... That's his humor. Give it a rest :)

  • mograph

    Seth should know the difference between animation and live action. What works in one medium might not work in the other.

  • So, the guy in your office who tells racist jokes or comments on how sexy his Asian coworker is should also not be called out for it because "that's his humor"? This explains why I still have a job investigating racism and sexism in the workplace.

  • Jenna

    That sucks.

  • John W

    I said it yesterday this show will probably the first one of the new season to be cancelled.

  • Al Borland's Beard

    I dunno. Isn't this the type of humor that usually succeeds? It doesn't seem far off from the Chuck Lorre formula and he's massively successful. I'm thinking six seasons and a movie.

  • Erin

    That was exactly my thought. Family Guy has been on for what, a decade now? Freaks & Geeks get 18 episodes & this steamer will probably live on for years. I am forever bitter.

  • John W

    I know but animated shows usually get a pass and I can't think of any Chuck Lorre's shows with so much rampant racism. Misogyny maybe but not the racism.

  • Bert_McGurt

    This was by FAR the sh*ttiest pile of dreck television I've ever seen in my 30 years of existence. And I used to watch professional wrestling.

  • Mrs. Julien

    Was it worse than the unprofessional wrestling as well?

  • Bert_McGurt

    If by that you mean the times where Jay Leno beat Hulk Hogan and David Arquette won the WCW Championship...then yes. This was worse.

  • Nothing on television will ever be worse than that. You could have a colonoscopy channel and it would still have better performances and a more lucid storyline than late '90s/early '00's WCW,

  • Mrs. Julien

    That was what I was asking, yes. It's why I love Pajiba, someone always gets my references.

  • Bert_McGurt

    And this is why I love Pajiba - obscure references from those you least expect!

  • Mrs. Julien

    You are giving me way too much credit, but I would still gladly share some butter tarts and/or a Crunchie with you.

  • Bert_McGurt

    Mmmmmm, now I have a butter tart craving that I know the vending machine tarts can't possibly satiate.

  • Mrs. Julien

    "Vending Machine Tart" was my high school nickname. I just really wanted some Smarties. They never let you forget. I can't look at a vending machine without crying.

  • lowercase_ryan

    How is this not paired with 2 1/2 Men?

  • SharePointJoe

    Have you ever watched an ep of Family guy? Or American Dad? This is Seth MacFarlane.

  • Artemis

    Seth MacFarlane isn't immune to criticism. And moving his normal humor from cartoon to live-action opens up a whole new discussion about how offensive it is. Even if you think that Family Guy works as "ironic racism" (note: not a thing, at least not the way he does it), watching actual people stand there are be the subject of racist, sexist punchlines should make clear that it does not work in this setting.

  • SharePointJoe

    Has nothing to do with what I think is "ironic racism". My point is...this is essentially what he does on family guy and if he makes the same jokes (which it seems like he does, considering I watch FG and not Dads) then people shouldn't be getting their underwear in a bunch about it.

    Why are people so shocked with what MacFarlane does?

  • Al Borland's Beard

    I think most people are angry at how aggressively unfunny it is.

  • benford

    I for one am not shocked. Just pissed that this garbage is on. I know it's just Fox, but they certainly can do better than lame, half-assed racist jokes.

  • Professor_Bedlam

    Can't wait to see it!!!

  • Jeff L. Crowder

    It's Seth McFarlane, what the hell did you expect? Shakespeare?!?

  • Bert_McGurt

    I wasn't offended by the jokes. I was offended by the implication that I was supposed to laugh at them.

  • mailbox

    You're probably not Asian or Hispanic. So I got double offended.

  • Bert_McGurt

    I didn't mean to imply that the jokes weren't offensive, merely that they were ALSO just terribly not funny.

  • Wōđanaz Óðinn

    Seth McFarlane is much bigger than Shakespeare, so shut up. Did Shakespeare ever have the biggest fanbase on Twitter? NO.

  • bastich

    Somewhere, a high school student is using that exact argument in class.

  • Fredo

    I agree with everything you said, except, as a card-carrying member of the perverted club known as men, I find the whole Asian schoolgirl reason compelling and, yes, I would like to know more. Brenda Song, you are attractive.

    Honestly though, this is from Seth McFarlane: the lord of frat bro humor. He thinks pointing out Walt Disney hated the Jews is funny or Asians can't drive is insightful or dick-punching jokes set to a snazzy, late 30s tune is the height of comedy.

    The only surprise here is that it's take him so long to get this monstrosity on air.

  • L.O.V.E.

    Dustin is such a sneaky bastard. He managed to get 4 pictures posted of Brenda Song in that get-up, but all under the guise of fair-use critique. Its like the Parents Television Counsel watching all those shows with violence and gay sex. Its not for pleasure; its a sacrifice for the people.

  • Fredo

    Dustin sacrifices hard for this site!

  • bastich


  • I want Brenda Song to get a good part one day :(

    Maybe she can come back to New Girl when she escapes this latest monstrosity. That would have the extra added advantage of giving Winston something to do.

  • Green_Eggs_and_Hamster

    Really, the best outcome at this point is for Winston and Coach to spin off into their own show where they bring in Coaches Gay Friend Max and his 1/16th Navajo buddy who runs a Sandwich Truck.

  • $65530708

    I wish you could give half up votes because I agree with the Song part of your post but not the Winston part. HE IS AWESOME!

  • Al Borland's Beard

    Not at puzzles, though.

  • Tinkerville

    Winston's my favorite of the whole loft, but I completely agree with Gobbler in that it doesn't always seem like the writers know what to do with his awesomness in terms of good season arcs and whathaveyou.

  • F'mal DeHyde

    I'm not comparing this to All in the Family but I have to wonder how the critics would react to that show if it came out now.

  • JenVegas

    I feel like there's a distinct difference between this show and the groundbreaking that All In The Family did. In AitF Archie was confronted by his own racism, sexism, stereotypes and forced (in many cases) to be dis-proven. This is just sh*tty people being sh*tty.

  • e jerry powell

    Well, for starters, Seth McFarlane is no Norman Lear...

  • Fredo

    All in the Family was about confronting Archie's old school, closeted mindset against the modern thinking of the 60s. It was about confronting the past while challenging the status quo. This? This is lame jokes wrapped in a bad setup designed to be edgy and irreverent because they cannot confront reality.

  • mograph

    Actually, All in the Family skewered both ends: Archie and Mike. Edith was the center. Try to find the Rashomon-referencing episode "Everybody Tells the Truth."

  • Frances

    Yep, can't forget "Meathead."

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