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There's Only One Type of Person More Pathetic than the People Who Watch "Saturday Night Live" on a Weekly Basis

By Dustin Rowles | Posted Under Think Pieces | Comments (45)



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If you’ve ever checked out a comment thread in the Internet discussing “Saturday Night Live,” you’re probably familiar with a very common chorus among the show’s many dissenters. Indeed, if you scan through our very own weekly recaps, invariably there’s almost always one or two “hilarious” comments to this effect:

“This show’s still on?”

“Funniest thing about SNL is that there are still people who watch SNL.”

“Why are people still watching this show?”

“I now feel pity for those who still watch this dumb show.”

“I hate to say it, but who cares?”

It’s not just on this site, either. It’s a universal sentiment. In fact, last night as I was scanning our site’s recap threads to compile the above list of quotes, Eric D. Snider, a noted movie writer with a beard and a quick wit, tweeted out this: “To people who love to say SNL isn’t funny anymore: Then why do you still watch it? And if you don’t watch it, then how do you know?” Given the creepy timing of this tweet, I quickly looked behind me to ensure that Mr. Snider was not standing over my shoulder. I was quite relieved to find only the usual miniature version of myself with a pitchfork wearing a devil costume standing on my clavicle.

The mini-devil me whispered into my ear, “Why are you writing about this show? Who cares?”

“Why is it that the very people who complain about how stale ‘SNL’ has become,” I responded, “are the same ones that repeat that line week after week after week? Is that some sort of cute irony? Or can you just not think of anything more pointless to say?”

It’s as though the people who do not like “Saturday Night Live” are taking cues from the show’s writing staff when it comes to lack of originality in their biting quips. It reminds me that, in college, I worked as a cashier at a grocery story in Arkansas, and on 32 occasions a day, someone would come through my aisle with a product missing its price tag. And each and every time it happened, the customer would say, as though they were the first person to ever come up with this brilliant bon mot, “I guess that must means it’s free, huh?” and then laugh hysterically at their own joke while exposing their lack of teeth. The people who ask, “Who cares?” when it comes to “SNL” remind me of those customers, give or take a missing tooth. Why do you care enough to comment about who cares? Who cares about you not caring?

No one, really.

What’s dumber than watching “SNL” week after week? I tell you! Taking the time to passive-aggressively ask, “Why are people still watching this show?” when what they really mean is, “I am not the sort of pathetic loser that would waste a Saturday night watching a television show noted for its mediocrity, but I am the sort of pathetic loser who would take the time to condescend to those people on an Internet comment thread at 9:30 on a Sunday morning.” Congratulations, you win at Internet life.

Look: I don’t believe in the maxim, “If you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say it at all,” for if I did, I would have very little to contribute to both this site and daily conversation. And while I do very much enjoy speaking ill of others, I draw the line at barging into someone else’s conversation to say, “Why do you care about what it is you are talking about? Are you some kind of idiot?” A statement like that smacks of insecurity, parental neglect, or general social retardation.

Still, I suppose the question does deserve an answer. Why do I care about “Saturday Night Live”? It’s certainly not because it’s particularly relevant nor is it because I find the show amusing. That is rarely the case. Nor is it because I simply like to complain, although that is true, too, and “SNL” often gives me a reason. But I rarely need another reason to complain — an excuse to complain about something is like sunshine: An almost daily occurrence, and why does it have to be so goddamn bright?

The reason I care enough about “Saturday Night Live” to watch it is because I have an affection for the show, because it’s been on for as long as I’ve been alive, because it’s always there, except during the summer and seemingly every other week during the regular season. Because it’s still one of the few shows that can launch a comic talent every once in a while. Because there’s a decent episode or two each season. Because there are four or five truly inspired sketches each year. Because I like to see famous people fail, live on television, and manage to pull themselves back together often only to fail again in the next sketch. “Saturday Night Live” can make rubble of even the most talented actors and comedians, and I love to watch train wrecks, especially those that can humanize otherwise perfect human beings, like Jon Hamm. Because, on the rare occasion when “SNL” does say something politically or culturally relevant, I like to see it firsthand. Because Seth Meyers occasionally makes a funny. Because I love Abby Elliot. Because Jay Pharoah does a decent impersonation every once in a while. Because I like Kristen Wig, even though I don’t really like her on the show very much anymore. Because when Jason Sudeikis makes fun of feminine hygiene products in the context of a fake sports show, I often laugh. Because Stefon has grown on me.

But mostly, I watch “Saturday Night Live” because I’m a pathetic loser who has nothing better to do on a Saturday night. But at least I’m not as pathetic as the losers who complain about how other losers utilize their time on Saturday nights. Really, who cares about those people?









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Comments

I usually watch SNL while lifting weights, having an orgy with a bunch of supermodels, doing lines of coke off a gorilla's tits, and arm wrestling Jesus himself. Whenever the show makes me laugh, my giggle-infused ejaculate launches one of the models through the nearest window. I know it was a good show if I only end up with a white-chested primate and an arm-weary Jesus by the end.

Posted by: Kballs at April 11, 2011 12:20 PM

That comment? The one right above this one? That fucker needs to win some sort of trophy. Or plaque. Either way.

'Cause that was good.

Posted by: Skitz at April 11, 2011 12:31 PM

This reminds me of people who ask if you've had a haircut. Are the responses, "Nope, I got them all cut" or "No, I got me ears lowered" obnoxious? Yes. They are. But only marginally less obnoxious than people who ask a question to which the they already know the answer because it's staring them in their fat, retard faces.

Yes. I did. I got my fucking hair cut.

(quick note -- I actually did get my haircut this weekend and I might be a little testy because I've already been asked this question four times and I've only been at work for 1/2 hour. This right here. This is why they have waiting periods for handguns.)

Posted by: superasente at April 11, 2011 12:47 PM

Perhaps we should evolve the discussion as to "why are people still writing about this"?

Or we should just let Kballs handle the weekly SNL recaps.

Posted by: D-Day at April 11, 2011 12:49 PM

KBalls' comment was definitely funnier than almost everything on SNL but I still watch it if I'm home when it's on. This season has been terrible, from what I've seen but there are some recent examples of hilarious SNL skits. Tina Fey's Palin and anything done by Justin Timberlake come immediately to mind as quality skits.

I have to comment on comparing the snotty "Why do you still watch this"-ers to the dim customers who make those same tired jokes to cashiers. There are some key differences between the two, most notably that the well-meaning corny customers are in no way condescending or mean spirited. I just want any of the commenters on here to know that I've been a cashier and it's nice when a customer tries to joke with you and be pleasant and engaging, even if their jokes are obvious and not particularly funny. If you are one of the customers who make those jokes then don't worry, some cashiers appreciate the usual pleasantries. I always did and my little smile was always genuine.

Posted by: becks at April 11, 2011 12:52 PM

I don't watch it because I get two PBS stations and one runs "Austin City Limits" at 11 p.m., and if it's a particularly good show, the other one runs "ACL" at midnight. If it's not a particularly good show, "The It's Alive! Show" is also on at midnight.

Come on, good music and bad horror movies? How can "SNL" ever top that?

Posted by: , at April 11, 2011 12:55 PM

What we need is a 'Pajiba Live' TV show hosted by Dustin.

Posted by: OldSchool60 at April 11, 2011 1:01 PM

But only marginally less obnoxious than people who ask a question to which the they already know the answer because it's staring them in their fat, retard faces.

By any chance, do you not like rhetorical questions?

Posted by: branded at April 11, 2011 1:09 PM

Thanks for the great post. I occasionally watch SNL and laugh at least a handful of times each episode. That's certainly a better ratio than I would experience with many other so-called comedies out there right now. I'm also not convinced that it's all that different from average years of SNL in decades past. Everyone seems to think the show has fallen from its earlier golden age, where most skits and most cast members were full of comic genius. Not true my friends. SNL has and always will miss as much as it hits, but that doesn't make it any less worth watching if you've got nothing better to do.

Posted by: Nate at April 11, 2011 1:12 PM

Now that I have one of those fancy DVR boxes I tape SNL and only bother going back to watch any of it if something became a meme over night. Otherwise I end up deleting it, unwatched, by Tuesday. I have to say though, Kristen Wig motorboating Helen Mirren was pretty lame but also pretty funny.

Posted by: JenVegas at April 11, 2011 1:17 PM

I actually kinda... like... the current cast. Sudeikis, Hader, even Samberg. Abby Elliot is a doll and pretty funny. Vanessa Bayer cracks me up and she's adorable. Like you, I like Wiig better in movies than on SNL but she still brings something to the table.
Granted, Kenan Thompson is truly terrible and the rest of the crew are finding their way but, as far as talent goes, this cast is a few notches above some of the more wretched ensembles (Melanie Hutsell, anyone?).
So, even though I don't watch it live, I do catch it online on Sunday mornings.
Not as funny as David Gregory and the Monkeys In Suits who appear on "Meet the Press" but good for some laughs.

Posted by: Spender at April 11, 2011 1:36 PM

I used to loooove watching Weekend Update, but ever since Seth Meyers took over I just can't even watch it. I hate that guy. I hate him, his stupid, self-satisfied douchebag smirk and the way he can't deliver a joke and his stupid face.

Posted by: Figgy at April 11, 2011 1:53 PM

I still DVR it every week but I end up fast-forwarding about 75% of the show.

Posted by: Snrub at April 11, 2011 1:53 PM

"Funniest thing about SNL is that there are still people who watch SNL"

Yeah, that's mine and still as valid as when I said it first. Because SNL still sucks and staying home to watch it sucks even more, and you are very aware of that. You make it very clear when you say "It's certainly not because it's particularly relevant, nor is it because I find the show amusing" and "I have an affection for the show". There you are, justified.

How do I/we know that SNL is that bad these days? Because I read a site like this one, which, among other things, talks about this horrible show as if in a weekly sort of sick commitment to bad TV. Then, there's always "This was the best moment of last night's SNL", and I click, and there are no laughs to be had, no envelope pushed, nothing. Apart from that, you can always zap through it during a movie break and catch a skit, or during a rerun. You just don't need to watch the whole thing.

I mean, what was the last big thing out of that? "Dick in a box", maybe? Really, fucking Andy Samberg being an unfunny douche with no other than that fraud of a "singer" alongside?

I loved SNL for some time in my life and I hate what they've done to it. It got slightly unfunny, then worse, then frankly unwatchable. It's just a low point of American TV these days. You don't like Mike and Molly and me neither, and it was still more immaginative than SNL, last I watched it (about the first six episodes). Insisting on SNL "because it's been there forever" and "because it'll give about four great skits a year" will never sound -- to other people! -- like enough reason to have that sort of commitment. You go out or phone your friend and you get more laughs than that that same night.

But then you went and made a big deal about it anyway...

Posted by: godzilla_foil at April 11, 2011 2:12 PM

I don't think it's the watching of SNL or the fact that you do and don't seem to like it, DR. It's that you watch it while literally sneering at it/thinking it's "lame"/implying you're so above it, that's quite grating.

Your entire post above seems like a rather long-winded justification not only to the reader, but also to yourself.

It is possible, is it not, that maybe you really DO like it, but wish (and want others to think) that you didn't?

You wouldn't be the first person to be a little hypocritical/dishonest when it comes to liking things that are "supposed" to be uncool, and I'm sure you won't be the last.

Posted by: Carlos at April 11, 2011 2:13 PM

Well, it's about damn time you vented your frustration on the 'too-cool-for SNL' pricks, Dustin. I think they just reflexively write the same smug comment to keep themselves on the imaginary 'hip' list they've dreamed up in their minds. You really nailed it with this:

“I am not the sort of pathetic loser that would waste a Saturday night watching a television show noted for its mediocrity, but I am the sort of pathetic loser who would take the time to condescend to those people on an Internet comment thread at 9:30 on a Sunday morning.”

Of course I wish SNL was a better show. But if you remember the original cast & the first few seasons as being the best, you're wrong about that, too: re-watch some of those shows on any one of a dozen cable channels & tell me you still laugh as hard at the sketches you only remember as being so funny- they're pretty near unwatchable now, and any given show back then could be just as stiff and glacially paced as many complain about today. Hell, there are even punks out there praising these early seasons that originally aired before they were born! Get over yourselves.

It's the only goddamn LIVE show on TV anymore; it still has genuinely hilarious moments; no matter how predictable or stale it may be now, SNL still manages to actually entertain once in awhile; and, just like Dustin, I love watching "famous people fail, live on television, and manage to pull themselves back together often only to fail again in the next skit." There's not another show on television, much less a 'live' one, that can instantly reveal just how funny or lame any given personality is, and it's still considered one of the most brutal training grounds any performer will face in their career.

I personally think 'American Idol' is a mindless piece of crap- but what fucking difference should it make to me if it just keeps on coming back? Either way, I don't have to watch it!

Now everyone just shut the fuck up about how YOU would never waste a Saturday evening watching such drivel - where did you get the idea that the rest of us give a shit??

Posted by: Tony at April 11, 2011 2:30 PM

I feel like we've already had this exact argument about SNL and the validity of comparing current casts on a real time skit-to-skit basis against what typically boils down to recollections of the "Best Of" videos.

Then again, that was during a time when the comments were waaaaay funnier than they are now.

Posted by: branded at April 11, 2011 2:48 PM

Branded. On fire today.

Posted by: superasente at April 11, 2011 2:54 PM

"Then again, that was during a time when the comments were waaaaay funnier than they are now."


Ooooo. Ponage!*

Anyone know what ponage is/means? My kids say it where I would have said "Burn!" when I was a kid, so I assume it means , well, "burn."

But how did it get to "ponage?" Is it some SNL thing? I wouldn't know -- I never watch that crap.

Posted by: klingonfree at April 11, 2011 3:10 PM

Anyone know what ponage is/means? My kids say it where I would have said "Burn!" when I was a kid, so I assume it means , well, "burn."

It isn't "pawnage"? As in, you might as well take your argument to a pawn shop and get what little money you can for it in order to buy more MD 20/20.

Still, this all feels like a cow's opinion to me.

Posted by: branded at April 11, 2011 3:30 PM

Hey Branded: Serious question. What does a cow's opinion mean? What is a cow's opinion? I am pretty good at idioms and platitudes and old sayings and wives' tales, but I know not this cow's opinion.

Posted by: klingonfree at April 11, 2011 3:45 PM

...nor what a cow's opinion feels like.

Posted by: klingonfree at April 11, 2011 3:46 PM

You know what I'm going to say.

So I'll just say thank you, Dustin.

Posted by: ChristianH at April 11, 2011 4:09 PM

@klingonfree

I believe you're referring to pwnage. Pwnage is a derivative of the verb "to pwn," which comes from online videogame communities and is another way of saying, "I totally owned you, dude." It means "to beat mercilessly, usually with a bigass gun or a particularly intimidating sword."

I'm a fan of the word myself, especially since I like to log on to Halo with a girly username and pwn many an unsuspecting man.

Posted by: beckster at April 11, 2011 4:37 PM

It's a cow's opinion cuz it doesn't matter. It's moo. Hee, I'm a bit of a sucker for cheesy puns, probably why I don't mind watching SNL and don't get why people hate it so much.

Posted by: Jessica at April 11, 2011 4:56 PM

also, I think it's "pwnage" which basically means "you just got burned!"

Posted by: Jessica at April 11, 2011 4:57 PM

The absolute worst of the repeated "jokes" ala "I guess it's free then, huh?" is when you offer somebody a piece of gum and they reply with, "Is that a hint?"

Fucking hell. The next time I have to fake smile at this im gonna kill myself.

Posted by: Craig at April 11, 2011 5:11 PM

because it's cool to act like you're above what used to be the coolest show on tv.

I gotta say here that whether you truly think SNL isn't funny anymore (you're stupid), or you think staying at home on a Saturday night is lame (you're right, but still a dick), the argument that SNL is a waste of time or irrelevant is weak. Yeah, opinions are opinions. BTW you got a little brown on your opinion there. I'm sure I'll get a couple of examples thrown at me, but where else on television can you get this kind of format, cast, host, writers or audience?

Nowhere. The fact that they can still do this every Saturday since the 70's (yeah, I saw it first run, like Star Trek, bitches) is pretty amazing. If they fall on their faces or the jokes are lame once in a while, how fucking entitled and elitist are we that we expect it to be perfect every time? How jaded are we that we can't look at the bravery and energy that this sort of show has and appreciate it at least for that? The show is live! It's frigging skit comedy! The fact that the jokes suck sometimes or sketches fall apart after a decent start is what it's all about! Some of you scene-kids need to get your head out of your ass and get some perspective.

And no, it's not nostalgia. I rarely watch the show anymore, but I catch it once in a while, including this week's. It's a nice change from the 400 copycat melodramas and non-comedies plaguing the airwaves.

Posted by: Protoguy at April 11, 2011 5:13 PM

I believe you're referring to pwnage. Pwnage is a derivative of the verb "to pwn," which comes from online videogame communities and is another way of saying, "I totally owned you, dude."

So much for me screaming "uber punnage!" anymore.

Posted by: branded at April 11, 2011 5:43 PM

Thanks for the shout-out, Dustin!

Here's my thing. With most TV shows, you know approximately what you're going to get, quality-wise, from week to week. If you watch two episodes of "Mike & Molly," it's a pretty safe bet that the third one will be just as good or bad. The show is based on a particular premise and characters, and has a certain style. Nothing is going to change very much between episodes.

"SNL" is completely different. Regardless of how terrible one episode may be, the very next week has the potential to be a classic. Heck, one *sketch* might be the worst thing you've ever seen, followed immediately by the best thing you've ever seen. There are so many constantly changing variables that affect the show: the host, the week's news events, pop-culture trends, the creative whims of the writing staff, etc. There's also usually a wide variety of styles of humor, too, so even if the poop jokes in one sketch don't make you laugh, the surrealism or pratfalls or wordplay in the next one might.

Basically, you can never completely write the show off as a lost cause. Its format and structure ingeniously allow it to have a legitimate shot at redemption every seven minutes or so.

Posted by: Eric D. Snider at April 11, 2011 6:11 PM

^^^ What he said. ^^^

Also, I heart you, Rowles. You manage to turn what gets your panties in a bunch into an eloquent rant.

Also also, I work in retail, and "I guess that means it's free" is my least favorite customer comment... right behind "Do you work here?" which people always ask RIGHT after I ask "Can I help you?" and while I'm clearly wearing a name tag.

Posted by: MelBivDevoe at April 11, 2011 6:28 PM

" It’s as though the people who do not like “Saturday Night Live” are taking cues from the show’s writing staff when it comes to lack of originality in their biting quips."

Really? I dare say "show me those comments and digs about 8 minutes too long, repetitively rehashing the same punchline over and over even though the audience failed to snicker the first time Kristen Wigg stuttered it."

No wait don't- I just don't care.

Posted by: JuiceinLA at April 11, 2011 6:52 PM

Speaking as someone who's watched SNL since it premiered in 1975 ( yes, I'm old. I was 9 then) I can say that it's always been uneven. For every "Samurai Delicatessen" there were 4 sketches that fell flat. They have to fill 90 minutes and every sketch can't be a gem.

The reason to watch is simple: Once in a while SNL will produce a Bill Murray,a Will Ferrell, a Tina Fey, a John Belushi, a Eddie Murphy,a Amy Poehler etc.

There's a lot worse bullshit on television. Don't believe me? Here's last weeks top rated shows:

1 DANCING WITH THE STARS ABC
2 AMERICAN IDOL-WEDNESDAY FOX
3 AMERICAN IDOL-THURSDAY FOX
4 DANCING W/STARS RESULTS ABC
5 NCIS CBS
6 CBS NCAA BSKBL CHAMP SA-2(S) CBS
7 NCIS: LOS ANGELES CBS
8 MENTALIST, THE CBS
9 BODY OF PROOF ABC
10 GREY'S ANATOMY ABC

Try and defend that horseshit.

Posted by: Dano at April 11, 2011 6:56 PM

what about people that don't ever watch snl anymore but still clicked on this to read the article you wrote? how's that for sad? and, really, who cares?

still, if i hadn't read this article, then i might have missed the first comment. kballs ftw! that's definitely an ee winner for the week and it's only monday. well, the gauntlet has been thrown.

btw, i was thinking of getting a haircut (it's been about eighteen months so it's kind of long) but thanks to superasente's reminder i might skip that. who wants to deal with those fucktards?

not i, said the pig.

Posted by: splinter at April 11, 2011 7:09 PM

And yet, Saturday Night Live -- that's the one we're talking about, not any other even crappier stuff -- still manages to suck week after week for a long time now, with only the occasional pale laugh that certainly doesn't pay for 90 minutes of watching.

You can keep trying to defend THAT horseshit. It will still be the same manure we've been seeing for the last 10 years or so, whether you compare it, say that you admire the cast's "courage", say that you saw the first SNL ever (which has nothing to do with anything, and you all wish it had) or whatever. It's still a show that has been failing big time when it comes to delivering the results it should deliver. There's no stronger argument than that. Rant with all you've got, that unbelievable crap of a show does not get better because of that.

They cancel a lot of shows after a long run because "the formula has run out". If that insistently stupid cast is the best they can muster to make an excuse for "oh, that's a live show with risks and difficulties", then cancel the damn thing already, cause the live show formula they were so successful with 30 years ago is not working anymore.

Posted by: godzilla_foil at April 11, 2011 7:27 PM

I have to agree with dano, as someone who has been around longer than the show has. Perhaps its rose colored glasses that make the show seem better in the day. From a ruthlessly critical point of view its never been great. Its always been uneven at best, and idiotic at worst. Yes there where some brilliant points, but those were due to the individuals not the overall. It just seems that for the last years it been down with no end in sight. I usually refer to SNL as simply not laughing.

Posted by: clancys_daddy at April 11, 2011 9:13 PM

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Posted by: watch jersey shore season 1 episode 5 at April 11, 2011 10:16 PM

Firstly, I hate "clever" customers. When asked if someone wants a drink at a family restaurant, the response, "Yeah, a jack and coke" irritates the living hell out of me.
Secondly, I also hate the haircut question and always answer back with the equally obnoxious "No, it shrunk it the wash".
As far as SNL goes, its always been mildly good and mildly bad. Everyone remembers the good parts.

Posted by: Em at April 11, 2011 11:10 PM

Thank you Dustin. I'be been saying this every week. I'm glad you agree.

Posted by: John G. at April 12, 2011 12:41 AM

I was in highschool/college during the Will Farrel era, and I will swear up and down that was the best. That said, I think SNL is finally getting it's groove. The new cast additions are better than season's past and it seems to be growing an identity. However, that identity seems to be exclusive and generational. If you don't like Nicki Manaje, if you don't know reality tv then you probably will not like this current SNL cast or writing. Basically, I think there are some people who are just too damn "old" for it now.

Posted by: brdkelli at April 12, 2011 2:14 AM

I'll watch it forever in hopes they'd ever do something like this again:

http://vodpod.com/watch/2110775-will-ferrell-writes-a-song-for-garth-brooksvideo

So there.

Posted by: Sweet Sassy Molassey at April 12, 2011 2:23 PM

Oh, Jesus Butthurt Christ, stop bawwwing and deal with it.

Seriously, this article could just be summed up in that silly canard, "Don't Like It; Don't Watch It"

SNL does not need help from anyone, and no one there will be reduced to tears when I say: "I routinely watch the SNL from the 70s".

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