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Pajiba's IP Lawyer Explains How Two Bills Running Through Congress Could Ruin the Internet and Put Us in Prison

By Seth Freilich | Posted Under Think Pieces | Comments (62)



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“Every law is an evil, for every law is an infraction of liberty.”

That quote comes from Jeremy Bentham, who went on to note that, because of this fact, those who enact laws must be sure “[first], that in every case, the incidents which he tries to prevent are really evils; and [secondly], that if evils, they are greater than those which he employs to prevent them.”

Tomorrow, Wikipedia, Reddit and some other websites (the Cheezburger sites and the Boing Boing network, just to name a few), are planning to go dark for the day to protest SOPA (and it’s less publicized sister-in-crime PIPA). Dustin has previously written about the phenomenon many of us encounter because we frequent many movie and pop-culture websites, wherein we think the collective conscious knows and loves something only to find out that excitement really just lives in the sheltered sphere we’re familiar with (it seems like we see at least one movie bomb a year despite the wild excitement in certain corners of the webdom). I’ve come to realize that, to some extent, the same is true with these two atrocious pieces of legislation. If you regular tech or nerd websites, you’re probably familiar with SOPA and PIPA. But the majority of the public doesn’t know much, if anything, about these things. Hell, before last week, even Jon Stewart, the liberal’s bastion of attacking the truly bad and evil in the political machinery, (at least claims that he) didn’t know about SOPA.

In the last week, there’s finally been some press about these bills, particularly in light of the fact that SOPA has been temporarily tabled, and even the White House has come out against a part of SOPA. But all these discussions seem to be along the lines of changing SOPA, when what really needs to happen is that both SOPA and PIPA need to be put on stakes and burned like witches. So let’s break this shit down and look at exactly why these bills are abominations.

SOPA. The Stop Online Piracy Act. PIPA. The Protect IP [Intellectual Property] Act. They’re largely two sides of the same coin. SOPA is a bill that had been working its way through the House, while PIPA is a comparable bill working its way through the Senate. Both are fashioned as attempts to curtail Internet piracy, backed by Hollywood and other generators of content. To date, these industries have largely been behind the technology curve and have therefore seen a growing proliferation of online piracy. This is nothing new to any of us. Consumers, unable to easily access the content they want and uncaring about the right-or-wrong of it all, take to the torrents, Usenet and other channels of illicitness to quickly and freely obtain the movies, shows and music they want when they want it.

As some readers know, in my day job I’m an intellectual property lawyer. I’ve litigated from both sides of the intellectual property table, sometimes representing my client in prosecuting against another’s infringing activities, sometimes defending my client against another’s claim of infringement. For many companies, their IP has become their most valuable asset, and these companies seek to ring every last dime out of those intellectual property rights. And for the Hollywood machine, of course intellectual property is their very bread and butter. Intellectual property is important and while some of our IP laws are a bit busted (in particular the ever-expanding time of protection one gets for a copyright), intellectual property should be protected. Infringement should be attacked and curtailed — a movie studio has legitimate rights that are infringed when their movies are readily downloadable with a click on a torrent link, and the mere fact that the studios are stuck living in an outdated distribution model doesn’t make clicking on that torrent “right.”

And there may be ways to attack piracy. But SOPA and PIPA aren’t those ways. These bills go well beyond what one might consider a reasonable response to online piracy. The legal details are thick and I won’t bore you with them all. But the main focus of these laws is that any site that contains a mere link to another site, itself responsible for some infringing activity, is in the legal cross-hairs. The site can essentially be shut down — court orders can be obtained requiring the site’s service provider to block U.S. citizens from accessing the site. The domain name can become blacklisted (although the site could still be traveled to through its numerical IP address). The site owners can be charged with felonies. That’s federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison, folks.




The Guardian created a brief video last December explaining SOPA:

(Sure, Bieber going to jail is a good thing, but let’s just have a Send Just Bieber to Prison bill, and scrap this garbage.)

The implications of these bills are many, despite the fact that their “intended targets” are foreign sites that infringe, because their reach is much closer to home. You know how much we love those “Community” animated gifs? Well a tumblr page hosting those gifs could get shut down. Worse yet, all sites linking to that page, also get shut down. Bye-bye Pajiba. We write a news article merely linking to some other site that has posted a leaked trailer, or post a trailer not realizing it was “leaked” and not “official?” Again, bye-bye Pajiba. When you type www.pajiba.com into your browser, you’ll get a page telling you that Pajiba has violated SOPA and fuck off. And me and Dustin will be rotting in jail.

Worse yet, because we’re responsible for all links and content on the site, this includes the things you heathens put in the comments. In response to a review, what if one of you lovely commentors throw a link to some torrent-hosting site making the movie or show being reviewed illegally available? Bye-bye Pajiba. Sure, it’s a bit the-sky-is-falling, but fearing being shut down and prosecuted, these laws would require many of us to go to strict comment moderating to try to keep our sites up and infraction-free.

There are of course the broad censorship concerns, too. We post reviews that are not well received all the time. (Spoiler alert — stay tuned for an article in the next few days telling you how and why Pajiba has been banned from Sundance). So do a lot of other sites. If a studio wanted, I’m sure it could dig through our site, or virtually any site on the net, and easily find some page which qualifies as an infraction under SOPA/PIPA. Bye-bye every movie review site that employs anyone other than Armond White. (Laurence Tribe, a big-shot Harvard law professor and big-time First Amendment proponent, says SOPA is unconstitutional exactly for this reason, because “an entire Web site containing tens of thousands of pages could be targeted if only a single page were accused of infringement.”)

And on the smaller scale, what if I’m feeling particularly nefarious? Maybe I’ll go on a campaign of terror some day and start commenting on all of Pajiba’s competitors, loading up their comments with links that get them shut down. Bye-bye everybody else.

(… Actually, the idea of a Pajiba-only Internet isn’t so bad.)

You Tube? See ya. Facebook? Later. Google? What the hell is a Google? These all violate the terms of SOPA and PIPA and could essentially be shut down. Proponents say these aren’t the types of sites they’re after, of course, but that’s not the point. Path to hell, good intentions. (Not that I believe these bills are particularly good intentioned.) Today it’s taking down that Chinese site, tomorrow it’s stifling speech. As Google’s Sergey Brin put it:

While I support their goal of reducing copyright infringement (which I don’t believe these acts would accomplish), I am shocked that our lawmakers would contemplate such measures that would put us on a par with the most oppressive nations in the world.

There’s a fantastic site called Get Your Censor On which humorously and illustratively goes through a lot of these implications, and I highly recommend you peruse it. They ask, for example, whether “you want the brilliant people who made … quality films” like Gigli and Deuce Bigalow: European Gigolo “to decide what you can look at online?” The always fantastic David Carr also wrote a News Year’s Day column about “the danger of an attack on piracy online,” which is very much worth your reading time. Go ahead, I’ll wait. (The gist is that SOPA likely won’t fix shit, and “[g]iven both Congress’s and the entertainment industry’s historically wobbly grasp of technology … they [shouldn’t] be the ones re-engineering the Internet.”)

The Hollywood argument, of course, is that piracy “took err jerbs” … hmmm, excuse me for a moment:

Right. As I was saying. Hollywood’s argument is that pirates take jobs and cost vast economic harm. Well, again, I’ll have to send you elsewhere if you want to see a long takedown from the Cato Institute of how the numbers cited in support of the vast harms caused by Internet piracy are bogus, but the long and short of it is, the numbers don’t add up. Which isn’t to say nothing should be done — again, as I said earlier, and as most opponents to these bills agree, there’s nothing wrong with the goal of trying to stop Internet piracy. But as Bentham says, you don’t wanna attack that evil with a greater evil. And SOPA and PIPA are fucking evil.

Are you still with me? Good on you. Now you may be wondering why, up until this week, many folks haven’t heard much about these controversial bills. In large part, it’s because TV network news has entirely ignored the issue. Media Matters, a media watchdog, found that from October 1 through January 4, most major news outlets, including MSNBC, Fox News and the three broadcast networks, “have ignored the bill during their evening broadcasts,” with only CNN giving the legislation any discussion. Suspiciously, ABC and CBS are on the Congressional list of SOPA supporters, as are NBC and Fox’s parent corporation. I’ll let you make whatever assumptions about this and the lack of coverage you choose to make — I’m sure you can guess what assumptions I’ve made.

Anyway, this finally started getting on folks’ radar last month when Reddit got particularly worked up over the fact that GoDaddy was a supporter of SOPA. They organized a massive effort to have folks dump GoDaddy as their domain registrar, which became particularly effective when Wikipedia publicly said it would be moving on from GoDaddy. GoDaddy eventually found itself withdrawing its support of SOPA and then, when the attack on GoDaddy’s bottom line didn’t stop, actively saying it opposes the bill.

And over the last week, as the backlash largely led by Reddit has continued to mount, the tide has started to turn. Several Republican co-sponsors of PIPA have asked that the Senate not hold a vote on PIPA, writing that “we have increasingly heard from a large number of constituents and other stakeholders with vocal concerns about possible unintentional consequences of the proposed legislation, including breaches in cybersecurity, damaging the integrity of the Internet, costly and burdensome litigation, and dilution of First Amendment rights … serious issues that must be considered in an informed, deliberative and responsible manner.”

Just last weekend, the White House came out against SOPA, noting that it “will not support legislation that reduces freedom of expression, increases cybersecurity risk, or undermines the dynamic, innovative global Internet.” The focus of the White House’s attack on the legislation was on the DNS aspects, noting that the Domain Name System is “a foundation of Internet security” and that “[w]e must avoid legislation that drives users to dangerous, unreliable DNS servers and puts next-generation security policies … at risk.” And the day before, perhaps knowing this White House attack was coming, SOPA was temporarily tabled so that the DNS-blocking provisions could be removed (similar language has apparently also been removed from PIPA). The hearing for this Wednesday (which is why Reddit chose tomorrow as its blackout date) has been postponed pending some “retinkering.”

But as the Electronic Frontier Foundation noted, this isn’t enough. “These bills need to be killed altogether [because] … they are not fixable.” Tinkering, rejiggering, taking out one bit of offensive DNS business just doesn’t cut it. This is a “victory for opponents,” but it’s not the victory. As a Fast Company editorial noted:

This is one of the most dangerous pieces of legislation ever introduced in Washington. It will not only strip us of many of the freedoms (and websites) that we currently hold dear, but will also set a precedent that the U.S. Government controls the Internet. We’ve seen what has happened in the Middle East and Asia when governments meddle with the Internet. It cannot happen here.

Cory Doctrow even more succinctly summed it up thusly: “The contempt for human rights on display with SOPA and PIPA is more than foolish. Foolishness can be excused. It’s more than greed. Greed is only to be expected. It is evil, and it must be fought.”

Is that extreme? No. Just look at this part of the MPAA’s response to the White House’s weekend attack:

While we agree with the White House that protection against online piracy is vital, that protection must be meaningful to protect the people who have been and will continue to be victimized if legislation is not enacted. Meaningful legislation must include measured and reasonable remedies that include ad brokers, payment processors and search engines. They must be part of a solution that stops theft and protects American consumers.

Talk about fucking arrogance. “Thanks, Obama, but fuck you. We want to be able to shut everybody down. To protect ‘consumers.’”

(You know, what chaps my hide more than anything else is that after the music industry botched the transition to the digital age, the movie/TV industry had a chance to pull a Sam Beckett (the Quantum Leaper, not the playwright) and put right what the music industry had gotten so wrong. Instead, it feels like they’re doing a modern interpretation of Waiting for Godot, just sitting around like a couple of idiots.)

One final note. As longtime readers of the site know, we were shut down by the Department of Homeland Security a little less than six years ago. We weren’t their target — best we could ever figure out is that one of the 200 sites that shared our hard drive was peddling kiddy porn. But when they went after that site and confiscated our ISP’s hard drive, Pajiba and 200 other sites went kaput. Our lack of proper backing up at the time meant that we lost some content, and all comments. It was sad, and an easy example of how government enforcement can easily overstep its bounds — we never got a straight answer, and six years later, despite formal requests, we never got a copy of our data, our intellectual property, that was stolen by the government. But the good thing that resulted from this little incident is that we moved to a new host, ServInt, which has been a blessing for many reasons. Plus, they get it:

[T]here was one thing we never got invited to do: speak at any of the CES sessions. That was a gig reserved for seriously important people only. And that’s why ServInt’s presence on the “Infringement, Rogue Websites, and Copyright Crackdowns: How to Catch Tuna Without Catching Dolphins” panel is such a big deal. Today, ServInt’s leadership position in the efforts to stop SOPA, PIPA and other flawed anti-piracy legislation is being recognized by having our COO, Christian Dawson — in his role as one of the leading voices of the Save Hosting Coalition — represent the viewpoint of the Internet infrastructure industry. The battle against SOPA is hitting the mainstream, and ServInt is being recognized for all the hard work we’re putting into it. That’s great — but we still need your help.

Good on ya, ServInt. And as they say, this fight’s not over. If you want to stand up and do your part, make it clear that SOPA and PIPA don’t simply need to be tweaked, but put in a fucking trash pile, you should:

If it’s not obvious, Pajiba opposes SOPA and PIPA. As readers of Pajiba, you’re largely smart, critical and rational free thinkers. You should also oppose SOPA and PIPA.











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Comments

Thanks, Seth.

SOPA and PIPA are evil.

Posted by: Michael Murray at January 17, 2012 11:18 AM

I heard that SOPA was being 'shelved,' but PIPA is still out there.

Posted by: Aislinn at January 17, 2012 11:28 AM

Dude, you had me 100% until you got to The Cato Institute. You couldn't find any organization with a little more credibility than the ultra-right wing guns for hire of the Cato Institute?

Posted by: PaddyDog at January 17, 2012 11:31 AM

Thanks for this. It really clarifies the implications of SOPA and PIPA.

Posted by: Pants at January 17, 2012 11:42 AM

Thanks Seth. This is a great explanation about something far scarier than I previously thought.

Posted by: Lemon Poundcake at January 17, 2012 11:46 AM

Thanks for the explanation. Now I course I would like to indulge in pointless speculation as to why Pajiba was banned from Sundance.

Said something unkind about Sister Wives

Mentioned that Fassbender handsomer than Redford

Two Words-Fatass Kevin Smith. He's so big it's three words but still...

Noticed that Sundance was mentioned in One Tree Hill-producers were trying to hush that up

Murdertank double parked

Godtopus Shrine built over Tarantino's favorite foot themed bar

Yellow snow incident

TK reenacting Saw episodes as performance art

Manic Pixie Dream Massacre

Ate non-organic chicken nuggets

Wacky Antics-the dean has put them on double secret probation

Ate too many chocolate salty balls

Posted by: Mrcreosote at January 17, 2012 12:07 PM

Thank you for this informative and extensive post. I appreciate the effort to include links.
If they could get Facebook shut down for a day, I'm sure that these bills, and others that will inevitably surface to accomplish the same thing, will be quickly flushed.

Posted by: dorquemada at January 17, 2012 12:10 PM

Thank you for this, Seth. Absolutely everyone needs to know about this and scream bloody murder at congress about it.

The economic implications of these bills are beyond disastrous. An open internet is one of the last frontiers of innovation in America. If an open internet goes away, countless people will lose their livelihoods.

Posted by: Seany D at January 17, 2012 12:16 PM

Dude, you had me 100% until you got to The Cato Institute. You couldn't find any organization with a little more credibility than the ultra-right wing guns for hire of the Cato Institute?

Posted by: PaddyDog at January 17, 2012 11:31 AM

PaddyDog, he also referenced Media Matters, if it makes you feel better. This is not a left-right issue; it is a liberty, free-speech, anti-censorship, anti-Big Brother issue. It is a government-corporations coalition against everyone else's right to ensure there are absolutely zero exceptions to Rule 34.

Posted by: Greedy at January 17, 2012 12:32 PM

Every time I hear the phrase "the white house came out against____" I figure its going to get passed no matter what. PATRIOT ACT, NDAA, etc.

I am honestly not that scared of this bill, just because it would so drastically kill the internet that it almost immediately will get repealed... whereas indefinite detainment...no one seems to give a shit.

I cannot believe that President Obama is facing no realistic opposition in the up coming election. A bucket of shit would make a better president.

Posted by: Diablo at January 17, 2012 12:35 PM

So this is a lawyer site now? Scum, you've really dug down deep, Rowles.

This is the lowest this site can go.

/kill all the lawyers

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at January 17, 2012 12:36 PM

It's pretty cool that Wikipedia is doing a blacklist over this. A whole lot of undergraduates writing reports at the last minute are about to become acutely aware of intellectual property law.

Posted by: Freller at January 17, 2012 12:54 PM

Very insightful. Thanks, Seth. Scary though. The end is nigh.

Posted by: LurkeyTurkey at January 17, 2012 1:05 PM

Good god man. Monkeys throwing feces at each other would be a better fit for lawmaking than our current elected officials. And far more amusing to boot. Just sad.

Posted by: ComfortableMadness at January 17, 2012 1:07 PM

Anything that brings down Rowles is A-OK in my book. Life aint free, skippy, you and your commie file sharing friends are about to learn that. The creative community works hard to bring you entertainment. Are they supposed to live like some middle-class assclown (like YOU?)? This legislation is about jobs.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at January 17, 2012 1:10 PM

Nice and nicely done, Mr. Freilich.

There's a few places to go to stay aware of shenanigans like this. Everybody ought to monitor The EFF as a matter of course. boingboing consistently covers issues like this one in a less nerdy way. For security-related stuff, follow Schneier on Security.

On this one, if one cannot stand to read Cato though they be on the side of the angels this time, one might investigate Larry Lessig and Cory Doctorow. Doctorow takes down SOPA as an aside in his recent "The Coming War on General Purpose Computing." Here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUEvRyemKSg


/Rant

This particular content law is egregious. However, this kind of nonsense has been going on about a decade with the internet, a couple centuries with mechanical recording forever. Lessig gave a talk @TED with examples of IP content control from the advent of music recording and radio.

They don't limit themselves to up front laws through the congress. In the name of IP protection the US has attempted to impose identity and content restrictions and disclosures on other countries & sponsored closed drafting of IP treaties by the UN, among other things. Regulations derived from existing laws get interpreted in interesting ways all the time. In part SOPA exists at all because the FCC got shut down in at least three attempts to do more or less the same thing administratively. Neither is the US alone in this. Along with, you know, theocratic dictators and such, our Kanuckian friends ought to take a look at IP shenanigans in the Great White North over the last couple years.

Would that they worked so hard at making stuff that is, you know, good. One might imagine they work so hard at extracting rents from what little content they have because they are better at gaming laws than producing content, but that would be ungenerous.

These e-shenanigans are bigger than IP. Various other recent US federal laws, proposed, enacted and interpreted include provisions for "shutting down" parts of the internet plus end-device shutdown or takeover - in emergencies, for terrorism, or whatever. There's a building history of retaliatory shutdown using accusations of "dangerous" speech spanning both this and the previous administrations.

Look, people, the knuckleheads will abuse any tool you give them, and there's an approximately infinite supply of energetic, creative knuckleheads. In the end, with any public issue there's one guy sincerely trying to solve a problem while the rest of the circus is angling for a way to rake-off some "consideration" for themselves and their friends, grab a club for whacking folks they don't like, create a permanent toll, or all three at once.

Big media is venal and corrupt BUT how much damage can they really do unless and until they capture the hideous power of law - shutdowns, court orders, seizures & jail. Absent a law, what are they gonna do, cut off your access to reruns of "Two and a Half Men"?

So Mr. Bentham's might have added, along with balancing evils caused vs. avoided:

" ... and in calculating evil avoided vs. evil caused presume throughout the law's least possible boons, and greatest production of banes, given the lawmaker's limited understanding of the world and the flawed humans with their own ends and objectives who will enact & live under the laws proposed."

The question with lawmaking is always: "How can this go sideways, given people of ill intent?" In one sense SOPA is simpler than most lawmaking - it's already sideways.

Not that I have an opinion.

Posted by: BierceAmbrose at January 17, 2012 1:14 PM

And me and Dustin will be rotting in federal pound in the ass jail.

The images just lend themselves to horror.

That said, thanks for the exhaustive and comprehensive piece. This isn't the first time that Congress has tried to censor/control the Internet because of the demands of some of their corporate masters. And like those previous cases, SOPA/PIPA will fail.

Posted by: Fredo at January 17, 2012 1:15 PM

Derk eh derrrr!!

Posted by: klingonfree at January 17, 2012 1:16 PM

"I swear to God I'm going to pistol whip the next guy who says Shenanigans!"

Posted by: ComfortableMadness at January 17, 2012 1:20 PM

"And me and Dustin will be rotting in federal pound in the ass jail.
The images just lend themselves to horror."


Eeeeeh now, let's not be TOO hasty..

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at January 17, 2012 1:20 PM

Sergey seems like a smart guy. Why would he be "shocked that our lawmakers would contemplate such measures that would put us on a par with the most oppressive nations in the world"?

Our lawmakers would LOVE to have the kind of power the Chinese govt. does over its media, for example. They'd love to be able to tell newspapers, websites and TV news exactly what they can and cannot publish/broadcast, etc. I suspect most of them despise the "no prior restraint" part of the First Amendment.

Almost no politician is in favor of freedom. They say they are, they are not. They bitch about the Iranians and N. Korea and China as if they actually care about the absence of personal freedom in those countries. Many politicians don't think there is such a thing as personal freedom, or privacy. Well, for them, there is, but for the rest of us, not so much.

They are happy to sell our privacy to the highest bidder and take care of any misc. acts of freedom with legislation like this SOPA bullshit.

Posted by: Slash at January 17, 2012 1:24 PM

Here's another thing that Seth alludes to: When the federal govt. fucks something up (like shutting down a site that has done nothing illegal):

1. It doesn't explain why it did what it did. The govt. figures it doesn't have to explain.
2. It doesn't apologize for the mistake it made. Doesn't have to.
3. It typically doesn't acknowledge it made a mistake. Doesn't have to.
4. It typically doesn't compensate someone for making the mistake. Doesn't have to, and only years and years of expensive litigation on the part of plaintiffs has ever forced the federal govt. to compensate someone for ruining their livelihood/life. Read up on the ever-expanding war on drugs for examples of that.

Posted by: Slash at January 17, 2012 1:39 PM

I agree vehemently with virtually every word. With a singular exception (and its not even yours):

The contempt for human rights on display with SOPA and PIPA is more than foolish.

This is a bit hyperbolic. The internet is not a human right.

But then, there's this: “Every law is an evil, for every law is an infraction of liberty...[those who enact laws must be sure] [first], that in every case, the incidents which he tries to prevent are really evils; and [secondly], that if evils, they are greater than those which he employs to prevent them.”

That thought is my new favorite. Even more than making out with Joan Holloway.

Posted by: superasente at January 17, 2012 1:44 PM

Well, now I'm gonna have to read Jeremy Bentham sooner than I had intended.

If that's still allowed, I mean.

Posted by: BierceAmbrose at January 17, 2012 1:51 PM

House Kills SOPA

http://onecoolsitebloggingtips.com/2012/01/16/house-kills-sopa-denver-computers-examiner-com/

YAY. For now. Media companies will probably have some new batshit idea to be made into law soon.

Posted by: Alexis at January 17, 2012 1:58 PM

The internet is not a human right.

Perhaps not, but the thoughts, ideas, writings, artforms, teachings and and free, unfettered communications found therein are. It's not about something as vague and ambiguous and ethereal as "the internet." It's about everything else involved.

Not to mention that in some cases, having an internet site shut down means the end of someone's job, their livelihood, and in some ways, their (and their family's) survival.

Posted by: Ghisent at January 17, 2012 2:02 PM

Thank you guys so much for covering this and explaining it so well.

Posted by: Melody Be at January 17, 2012 2:04 PM

Just thought of something...maybe they are only trying to pass this law so the in the closet politicians won't have their gay scandals plastered on the internet?!?
This is designed to help them during their election process. It's ridiculous...

Posted by: Cyn at January 17, 2012 2:13 PM

First of all Freilich Joh Stewart is not a liberal, Stewart is a libertarian dressed in liberal clothes. Like most libertarians Stewart has a hard-on for that racist Ron Paul. But oh no, don’t tell those libertarians that Ron Paul is a racist even though Paul is close friends with David Duke and the leader of “Storm front” Don Black. And in the 80’s and 90’s Paul wrote a newsletter that Adolf Hitler himself would be proud of. I hate those fucking libertarians, always talking somebody taking away their rights, they hate the federal government all the way up until the moment they need the federal government. Anyway Freilich you and Rowles both can step away from the fainting couch, SOPA and PIPA won’t see the light of day. Every six months some bill originates in the house of representatives that claims it will sensor the internet, and every six months or so the bill gets kicked in the nuts, the same thing is going on here.

Posted by: Pookie at January 17, 2012 2:17 PM

Just thought of something...maybe they are only trying to pass this law so the in the closet politicians won't have their gay scandals plastered on the internet?!?
This is designed to help them during their election process. It's ridiculous...

Posted by: Cyn at January 17, 2012 2:13 PM

________

No sugar, long before the internet, politicians that secretly took it in the seat still got outed.

Posted by: Pookie at January 17, 2012 2:24 PM

Thanks for this great explanation, Seth! I've been trying to find a thorough description of SOPA and PIPA and their possible implications. Californians, I was shocked to find out that both Senator Boxer and Feinstein are not only supporting PIPA, but co-sponsoring it. Call 'em up, folks!

Barbara Boxer: (202) 224-3553
Dianne Feinstein: (202) 224-3841

Posted by: Ruthie at January 17, 2012 2:40 PM

Ghisent, if the internet exploded tomorrow, there would still be "thoughts, ideas, writings, artforms, teachings and and free, unfettered communication." Certainly it would be in a different form, but it wouldn't be so different that it would be life-changing or unrecognizable.

People would still have jobs. Things would still get bought and sold. Art, music, and literature would still evolve and change in fantastic, interesting ways. Information would still disseminate to the masses. The world would go on much the same way it did before. Stifling the internet would not stifle humanity for a single hour.

At best the internet is an efficient tool. At worst, it's "Two Girls One Cup."

And you gotta know, no-one would be sadder than me to see it destroyed or stifled. I fucking love the internet. I wish the internet was a person so I could get fucked by it.

Posted by: superasente at January 17, 2012 2:40 PM

Stifling the internet would not stifle humanity for a single hour.

You are, of course, entitled to the opinion, but I find that to be staggeringly reductive. I think that in the modern era, the internet has changed things so vastly and in such myriad, complicated and in many cases even unrealized ways, that if it were to "explode" as you say, many aspects of life as we know would, in fact, grind to a rather stunning halt. All of humanity? Of course not. But a sizable portion of many peoples' lives, businesses and relationships would (quite literally) suffer massively.

And my point was never that thoughts and ideas would cease to exist with the lack of an online universe. It was that many of those thoughts and ideas use the internet as both a forum and a delivery system, one that is completely unique and therefore, in its absence, would go unheard and unexpressed.

Like, for example, the thoughts and ideas on this website and within these comments.

Posted by: Ghisent at January 17, 2012 3:01 PM

Would things be different? Oh sure, no doubt. But "different" is not the same as "worse" and the void that stands where the internet culture used to be would be filled with activities and ideas more substantive and productive (this conversation, enriching and engaging though it may be, would not even be necessary if there were no internet).

Now, I will politely excuse myself. I have lolcatz that I need to giggle over, thankyouverymuch.

Posted by: superasente at January 17, 2012 3:56 PM

I can haz disagreement.

Posted by: Ghisent at January 17, 2012 4:13 PM

Thank you so so so much for bringing this issue a little farther into the light. The only reason I'm not on board with the blackouts tomorrow is that it's my birthday, and that's just cruel.

Posted by: the_wakeful at January 17, 2012 4:43 PM

I would like just one person who says "of course online piracy should be stopped, but..." to offer one other idea how to protect intellectual property rights from online piracy.

Basically, what I'm reading is that Pajiba (and sites that depend on links to other content sites) might have to hire some people to more closely monitor their websites. Hey, we're talking jobs here people! So SOPA really is about jobs, hooray!

I have little sympathy for Hollywood. And I agree that you would have thought that after the internet destroyed the music industry as it had been, the Studios would have been out front in seizing technology to their advantage. So in many ways Hollywood has brought this upon themselves. Be that as it may, they should and do have the right to protect their property.

Online piracy is really no different than the Somali pirates holding ships for ransom. They are using something that is wholly the property of others to enrich themselves.

Hey here's an idea - instead of SOPA we bring in the Navy Seals...

Posted by: James S at January 17, 2012 5:00 PM

No way, once again Pookie started talking about racism in something that has nothing to do with racism? Once again, I'm shocked!

Posted by: pissant at January 17, 2012 5:01 PM

Thanks, Seth, for taking the time to write a reasonably detailed analysis for us.

First of all, it really chaps my hide how much finger-wagging we do at other countries about "human rights" and "censorship" when we're just as bad or arguably worse. UGH.

Second, as I understand it, which admittedly might be not at all, one of the worst aspects of SOPA is that anyone can cry, "My intellectual property is infringed!", and immediately, without any burden of proof or reasonableness on the part of the accuser, or any demonstrable nefarious intent on the part of the "infringer", or any tangible harm shown, the cascading shutdowns begin. Talk about a total subversion of our supposed 'innocent until proven guilty' / rule of law paradigm. Anyone with a vendetta could fuck you up big time, before you even knew what was happening.

Pure evil indeed.

Posted by: MM at January 17, 2012 5:07 PM

Free expression and free interchange of ideas and information is what is at stake here. I have already written my Reprehensible and both of my Seniles urging them to block both of these idiotic pieces of legislation.

Aristotle wrote, "Good law is good order." SOPA and PIPA are neither.

Posted by: The Wanderer at January 17, 2012 5:28 PM

I just love how we have gone from "Artists to Movie Makers to Content Providers." Those who made "XXXXXX: The XXXXening" (name witheld for copyright purposes) are indeed merely "Content Providers". That is the kindest thing one can say about them. I know there used to be a lot of shit out there. But at least it feels like it was shit that someone cared enough about to make. Now they only care enough to make money, not films. So it seems. To this Old Fart. And his Monkey.

Posted by: Odnon. at January 17, 2012 6:36 PM

I think part of what really offends me about SOPA and PIPA is the assumption by the US government that the internet is THEIRS, and they may do what they like with it - consequences be damned for the other countries. As somebody not from the US, I actually find that really offensive. (I am aware that's not really the point of this, but I wanted to say that.)

I think it's also the blatant disregard for the freedom of choice of the people, the fact that it infringes upon the usage of something which makes the wealth/poverty divide much easier to deal with (because as the arab uprisings have shown; when the people are pushed down, the internet is the easiest way to mobilise) because the internet acts as a facilitator for a lot of human rights.

I just find this almost unfathomable - don't these two bills go against most things the US prides itself on? Freedom of Speech (and I'm not talking about the kind of 'freedom' people assume they have, like the ability for wanton, blatant defamation of character, which is not above and beyond freedom of speech), equality, things like that?

I don't know. Maybe I'm just being dense.

Posted by: RVHG at January 17, 2012 6:38 PM

Reports of SOPA's demise have been greatly exaggerated. They're moving further markup of the bill to February, praying that our national short attention span will let them pass it. Just like they did last month.

Posted by: dorquemada at January 17, 2012 6:56 PM

As an artist I can definitely feel the IP side of this argument. Yet, even as I'm writing, the two sides are battling. I get a payment for the original artwork and retain the right to print and sell prints and use the image for self-promotion as well. If someone prints my piece from some source and puts it on their wall, I'm not going to cry. If someone takes my image and sells it, that's a different story. If someone takes my image and mass-produces it or offers it to a mass audience, that's something else.

Which is how I think the industry should look at it. Not going after kids or even adults who've downloaded a movie they didn't feel strong enough about to pay for. The damn Walmart $5 bin of overflowing with crap or the 22 hours in 24 of shitty cable programming - that's evidence of the flab their trying to subsidize with this scrabble to hold onto the green tit.

It used to be just a film, then it became a film and a VHS/laser disk/dvd/blu-ray, and then MPEG/AVI/QT. Once it became digital - which they've all been pushing the industry towards - it became impossible to control ownership. Trying to claw it back now is too little, too late, tough shit. It's never going to work, though it might help fund those private prisons we keep hearing about.

Prosecute the people who mass produce counterfeits. Prosecute the people who film the movies with a handheld and sell that. Prosecute the people leeching off the industry, not the ones who are the fans of the industry and the only source of cash you have left.

Posted by: Protoguy at January 17, 2012 7:21 PM

No way, once again Pookie started talking about racism in something that has nothing to do with racism? Once again, I'm shocked!

Posted by: pissant at January 17, 2012 5:01 PM

_________


Listen pissant, racism was not the main thrust of my argument. I wanted to show the many layers of SOPA and PIPA respectively. Freilich described Jon Stewart as a liberal which in incorrect. Stewart is a libertarian, and libertarians hate government intervention, libertarians want no government intervention whatsoever. And SOPA and PIPA is all about government intrusion into the internet. It’s good to know that you are a follower and a fan of my writings.

Posted by: Pookie at January 17, 2012 8:38 PM

Yes, at their center Libertarians are basically Anarchists. That's why I find Ron Paul's career in government (and popularity) so baffling. Why vote for someone in government that only has a deep hatred of the institution?

Posted by: Jenne Frisby at January 17, 2012 9:24 PM

Not supporting SOPA/PIPA =/= Supporting online piracy

It's not that hard a concept. If PIPA passes into law, anyone can claim that any website is infringing on their IPR without providing any proof. The accused loses everything until they can prove they either did nothing wrong or comply with the takedown notice. The accuser has to prove nothing. We're suddenly prosecuting people without the prosecution having the burden of proving a crime was committed. How is this not a bigger deal to people?

You know how you solve online piracy? By finding out who runs these bullshit download sites and prosecuting them. The police don't just randomly walk around the streets hoping to catch that serial killer/rapist/arsonist in the act again. They actually put the effort in to find the criminal. If the entertainment industry is so put out by online piracy that they will rant and rail and hold their breath until they pass out over SOPA, then they should care enough to actually go after the source of the problem.

Randomly allowing anyone to get websites shut down over butthurt isn't solving IPR issues. It's muddying the waters of already terrible confusing legislation. Educate people on the ramifications of piracy and go after the people who enable it to happen. Shutting down someone's blog for posting a trailer won't do shit. Shutting down the person who is going into the theater and filming the trailers/film for profit will do more. Offering that person a deal if they rat out the person paying them to film the trailers so the source of the piracy will be shut down is even better.

Allow me to end with an example. Tovah Feldshuh starred in a recent regional production of Gypsy. The producers put out a highlights trailer that showed some really unflattering moments in her performance (namely anytime she tried to sing the score). The theater blogs blew up, embedding the trailer that they gave Playbill, Broadway.com, and BroadwayWorld the right to put online and mocking her character choices. Suddenly, the regional theater demanded the licensed trailer they provided be pulled from the sites. They issued YouTube takedowns against anyone who rehosted the video for weeks after it was posted. Under PIPA, the three major sources of theater news in the US and dozens of professional bloggers could have been shut down in a matter of minutes for using a trailer that the creator didn't want to be available anymore. This was not pirated material; it was provided by the owner for anyone to use until the owner changed their mind in the face of negative comments. Is shutting down those sites protecting IPR or is it being abused by someone who couldn't take criticism about work they voluntarily put online?

Posted by: Robert at January 17, 2012 9:40 PM

So basically it's like giving the trolls an atomic interbomb and a legal bridge to hide under.

Posted by: Protoguy at January 17, 2012 10:04 PM

And me and Dustin will be rotting in jail.

Well, there's the bright side to these odious bills.

Posted by: Uriah Creep regrets this comment and asks for forgiveness at January 17, 2012 10:11 PM

Most of the sites actually hosting torrents and other illegal content moved out of the US when threatened with ciminal prosecution. This is one of the (many) reasons why the IP owners crafted (and are spending a fortune on lobbying for) this legislation. They want to shut down such sites by eliminating access to them from your country. But it's still a fucking dumb way of fighting piracy, the proverbial "chainsaw where a scalpel would work" reaction.

Posted by: Uriah Creep at January 17, 2012 10:19 PM

SAY NO TO SOPA! PROTECT YOUR CONSTITUTIONALLY PROTECTED RIGHTS TO STEAL OTHER PEOPLES' SHIT! FUCK THE CREATORS, WE ARE THE 99%!!

Posted by: Clyde Griffths at January 17, 2012 11:54 PM

Thank you! I've been raising awareness about the potential dangers of SOPA and PIPA since December and it's been depressing to realize how few people know about it. Wikipedia going black was a good step forward for bringing awareness to the general public.

http://sopastrike.com/

Call your state rep and congressperson, blackout your site, and say no to SOPA/PIPA.

Posted by: Free the Springfield Two at January 18, 2012 2:03 AM

Yes, at their center Libertarians are basically Anarchists. That's why I find Ron Paul's career in government (and popularity) so baffling. Why vote for someone in government that only has a deep hatred of the institution?

Posted by: Jenne Frisby at January 17, 2012 9:24 PM

You do realize that Pookie is essentially Pajiba's in-joke troll, and has more or less been that for years when he's not getting banned, right?

Posted by: Devil Child at January 18, 2012 4:38 AM

Why is Pajiba not participating in the strike though? You don't have to blackout the whole site; I've seen other sites/blogs just blackout their logo.

Posted by: Lemon Poundcake at January 18, 2012 9:16 AM

Now we are, Lemon Poundcake, thanks!

Posted by: seth at January 18, 2012 10:40 AM

Clyde Griffths, are you really that fucking dense? Did you bother to read the article, or any of the comments?

Posted by: Ghisent at January 18, 2012 11:02 AM

Just your typical troll out for a day's jaunt. Another Tea Party boob who's jealous that his movement had no momentum, or sense, or logic. But hey, at least they cleaned up after that one weekend they took their Hoverrounds out.

Posted by: Protoguy at January 18, 2012 3:01 PM

I don't know about anybody else, but I'm really in the mood for a sopapilla.

Posted by: Adam at January 18, 2012 4:41 PM

We don't need to yell and scream at them, just change that energy into something more positive. For example, support people that make free films. There are many online that make almost every genre into shows and movies. Stop putting money into pockets that support such causes. Support others that do it for more than money!! Sooner or later, they will catch on....
We have the power as consumers, the ones that give them a paycheck, and as people!! Make a difference positively!

Posted by: Chad at January 18, 2012 5:55 PM

If you don't about this site already, check out THOMAS.gov. It lets you know what is going on in the House and the Senate.

Posted by: Nia at January 19, 2012 10:20 AM

Mega Upload now, what are they likely going to steal off everyone next? Awfully disturbing.

Posted by: Maria Viano at January 22, 2012 3:48 PM

Hi! I have the same problem as Suzee :/ I'm using free AVG Anti-Virus. I can't do anything with that Trojan Horse Hider.OLM. Could you please help me to remove the bastard from my comp?

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