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Emasculation and the Problem with the Contemporary 105-Pound Female Action Hero

By Dustin Rowles | Posted Under Think Pieces | Comments (55)



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There’s no small part of me that got a little annoyed at the number of people — viewers and critics — who insisted on making such a huge deal of Zoe Saldana’s weight in Colombiana. Sure, she weighs about 105 pounds and has arms not that dissimilar to Zelda in Pet Semetary.

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But what annoys me are the large number of folks unwilling to suspend their disbelief for a waif-ish female action hero, but who are perfectly willing to do so for automobiles that turn into alien robots, superheroes who gain their power through power rings or 1940’s steroid machines, or even a pint-sized Matt Damon beating the shit out of a guy with a magazine. Really? Really? We can watch parachuting tanks engage in mid-air battle, but we draw the line at a lithesome woman beating the shit out of a average-sized Capo?

But there’s another part of me that gets it, that completely understood that criticism while watching Angelina Jolie and her meatless Ulnas take out dozens of brawny dudes in Salt. There is a real disconnect. Matt Damon may be pint-sized, Liam Neeson may be on the older side, and Hugh Jackman may not actually be capable of leaping into a moving helicopter, but, at the very least, these men — and most other action heroes — would at least be capable of finishing basic training in the military. Zoe Saldana and Angelina Jolie? Probably not. They probably wouldn’t even be admitted into the military under its minimum-weight restrictions.

But then it comes back to this: Why does Hollywood cast a woman like Zoe Saldana or Angelina Jolie as an action heroine? I think the answer is self-evident: Because a lot of the people attracted to action movies don’t want to see the kind of woman fit to be an action hero in these movies. Let’s face it: A lot of men simply don’t find the Linda Hamilton in Terminator types sexually attractive, and in the minds of Hollywood, sexual attractiveness seems to be a prerequisite. See also, Kate Beckinsale and Milla Jovovich. In fact, Michelle Rodriguez may be more suitable for these types of roles, but what do men say when they see Rodriguez? “She must be a lesbian.”

I’m not saying that this is the type of thinking that goes on with our more socially progressive readership — in fact, it’s probably not. But the majority male moviegoers are more conservative in their thinking, are intimidated by women with well-defined biceps, and are incapable of categorizing a more bulked-up woman into the confines of their narrow little minds without assuming she must want to be a man. The country has seen a lot of progress over the last 30 years, but there are plenty of moviegoers who are still unwilling to accept — and pay to see — a female shit-kicker unless she also looks more delicate and fragile. How else can we explain the uber-femininity of the majority of, say, the women on this list? And two of the women on that list perhaps capable of real-life ass kickings — Alice Braga and Michelle Rodriguez — aren’t exactly burning up the box-office.

So, I’m actually excited to see how Haywire fares at the box office this fall. Will movie-going audiences accept and pony up $10 to see former MMA fighter Gina Carano in Soderbergh’s action flick, and will they do so without resorting to a certain brand of name-calling defensiveness: “WTF? She looks like a dude. Is she some kind of tranny?” Because 1) that’s not cool you narrow-minded little shits, 2) she’s f*cking super hot and that doesn’t make me gay for thinking so (and if you’re the type to think so, who f*cking cares), and 3) she could kick your ass up and down the playing field, asshole.










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Comments

Ahhh, "Rachel...Rachel" it still haunts my dreams.

I still think that Charlize Theron should have been mentioned.

Posted by: Melody Be at August 29, 2011 12:08 AM

I don't have a problem with Zoe. Sure she's thin, but she looks fit and healthy.

Jolie on the other hand looked like she should hooked up to an IV in Wanted and Salt. The only time she ever looked like she could kick ass was in the original Tomb Raider, but that was mostly due to padding and digital trickery.

Posted by: Kate at August 29, 2011 12:49 AM

I can accept a petite female fighter on-screen *IF* she is demonstrating superior technical skills.

Unfortunately, a lot of female action stars don't put the time into the training (or aren't asked to). Their fights on the screen are slug fests, which I'm just not buyin.

If Matt Damon was simply slugging it out with bigger guys, I would have had an issue with that too. Instead, it was obvious that the character had far superior martial art skills and that is what allowed him to win.

Posted by: Leaf at August 29, 2011 12:49 AM

the large number of folks unwilling to suspend their disbelief for a waif-ish female action hero, but who are perfectly willing to do so for automobiles that turn into alien robots

I wouldn't have put it quite that way, Dustin, because it invites people to argue ("suspending disbelief in xyz is reasonable, but not in abc"), but you're exactly right.

One big reason I loved Buffy The vampire Slayer so much, as a girl myself, is the idea that Sarah Michele Gellar, the tiniest pocket-sized heroine ever, could kick SO MUCH ASS. And that's just what Whedon had in mind - "what if the girl went in to the dark alley, and came back out unharmed..."

No, these tiny girls could not kick these guys asses in real life. But I like to imagine they could. Because I like to imagine *I* could. And going to the movies is all about imagination.

As for why guys like it, well, these chicks are hot.

Posted by: MM at August 29, 2011 1:18 AM

I draw the line at different places in different movies. If a skinny girl is presented as being from Krypton, or is a vampire, then I'll also go along with the premise that she has superhuman strength. If she's supposed to be a regular homo sapiens, then I don't accept a twig beating up big, skilled fighters anymore then I would accept if she flew away, or was saved by a cadre of flying pigs.

Posted by: Pat C. at August 29, 2011 1:35 AM

these chicks are hot.

Posted by: MM at August 29, 2011 1:18 AM
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Not succubus Jolie. Not to me.

Posted by: , at August 29, 2011 1:39 AM

Gina Carano certainly does not look like a man. I was looking forward to Haywire as well. But they keep pushing it back. To January 2012 I think. That probably isn't a good sign.

I just always wonder why Americans don't like female action stars. Asia clearly has no problem with them, and are actually much more conserative in regards to women role in society. Weird.

I, too, have a hard time believing Matt Damon in action movies. I sort of have a rule about action movies. If I know I can kick the shit out of a movie star, I can't watch their action movies. Yes, Tom Cruise I am looking at you. Or over you.

Posted by: Sean at August 29, 2011 1:46 AM

Pat C: That's the line, Buffy is supernatural with super strength. It doesn't matter how bug SMG is, because it's a magic world where that can happen. Not so much for Salt or Columbiana. Love the Jolie, but there are to many physics problems for the twigs. Maybe if they just forgot the martial arts and limited it to MacGyver shit and weapons it would be more believable. Some movies still get it right tho, I totally bought Mirren in Reds, she had a big gun in every scene and she kicked ass with it.

Posted by: Melody Be at August 29, 2011 1:56 AM

When there is enough backstory people are willing to suspend disbelief. supernatural skills? Sure, okay?

Plus, most male action heroes are big dudes. If most action ladies looked like American Gladiators, the occasional waif who kicks butt would be an interesting exception.

But backstory or no, I suspect it ultimately comes down to this: when the small guy wins, he's the underdog. When the thin woman wins, she's just the same woman who ALWAYS wins at life.

Posted by: Cali at August 29, 2011 1:56 AM

Hmm.... I knew I shouldn't have brought Buffy into it because of the "supernatural" thing, but I stand by the point that I like watching little girls kick men's asses *because* it could never happen in real life.

However, I'm also all for the, uh, "larger" superhero lady like Gina Carano. There are women out there who could legitimately kick men's asses (a few, anyway), and they're awesome too.

Posted by: MM at August 29, 2011 2:04 AM

Leaf hit the nail in the head. It's not that she is thin, it's that they resort to the slugfest.. Which Is retarded. I've seen tiny women destroy large men, but it's because they avoid getting hit and use their opponents size against them. I practice martial arts, and while a tiny woman can cause serious damage, there isn't much you can do if a 250 lb guy lands his foot in your 105lb ass. Hence why I think people have trouble with it.. I can snap a large mans elbow with little effort, but that meatfist gets me in the face and I'm down for the count...

Posted by: Heather at August 29, 2011 2:53 AM

It's not just about size it's also about believability . Milla, Angelina ,Uma, Kate they may be tiny but they make their chaarcter bad ass enough to feel like they can really kick ass. Zoe Saldana? Not so much. She looks like a harmless eve when she tries her hardest

Posted by: YesPlease at August 29, 2011 3:20 AM

The Imdb board for Haywire shows what misogynistic assholes male viewers of these type of films are. The disgusting sexist comments over there are overwhelming. No wonder those men must sit in their basement, collect their Star Wars merchendise and only see women on the internet.

Posted by: g at August 29, 2011 3:21 AM

Ummmmm...I'm pretty sure Jolie could pass [womens] basic training.

Posted by: CG at August 29, 2011 3:42 AM

I don't think this is always a sexism issue. I feel the same way about Taylor Lautner in Abduction as I do Saldana - utter indifference with a healthy amount of "that girl couldn't hurt a fly, but I welcome her to prove me wrong, if I ever find myself watching that film due to some convoluted accident or dose of morbid curiosity".

I believe lil' Matt Damon can be Jason Bourne. I believe Adrien Brody can kill a Predator. Brody's justification during Predators press rounds was that most modern day soldiers are his size. Plus speaking of Gina Carano's MMA background, MMA is a sport that will make you very well aware that there are PLENTY of dudes who weigh 135lbs who would murder you with their bare hands in 9 seconds.

It's about having a commanding screen presence, not testicles. Saldana does not have the screen presence of a bad ass. Neither does Taylor Lautner.

Posted by: Steve at August 29, 2011 5:27 AM

"Ummmmm...I'm pretty sure Jolie could pass [womens] basic training." I agree, but the point that I took is that she couldn't pass it while maintaining the weight she was in Salt.

Also, for me Zoe Saldana gets the same pass that Summer Glau does: extensive ballet training. They are both so flexible and in control of their bodies that I can suspend disbelief enough to think that maybe their speed can make up for their lacking masses, even though I know better. Do I actually believe that a slender woman can go fist to fist with a guy twice her weight, no. But I don't believe that shooting pistols with both hands grants you any kind of accuracy, that martial arts can match up to overwhelming differences in firepower, or that 65+ year old men can lay down unholy ass-kickings (I'm looking at you, Stallone!) either.

I suspend my disbelief all the time, and I'll stretch quite a bit for some action and/or horror. But I can't suspend my disbelief without some tenuous thread keeping it from crashing to the ground. (Also, don't get me wrong, I'd still rather see Saldana bulk up for more believable fight scenes, a la Christian Bale, and I cannot wait to see Ms. Carano lay down some hurt.)

Posted by: megaera at August 29, 2011 5:39 AM

the slug fest comment wins everything.

Posted by: haplo at August 29, 2011 6:48 AM

Also, for me Zoe Saldana gets the same pass that Summer Glau does
In theory yes. However the fight choreography when it comes to Zoe is just horrible. I mean just compare them

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8CYWGDxdQ0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZK59xI6Ma8


They perfectly used Summer's grace and flexibility while with Zoe it was practically pathetic. It was almost she was some brawler trying to overpower her element

And then there is the presence. Summer can do psychotic and homicidal really well. Just look at 5:42 while Zoe just fails. Well not to the lvel of Scarlet Johanson fail but close


Posted by: YesPlease at August 29, 2011 6:52 AM

Weird, I've never had a problem believing Matt Damon as Bourne and he's never struck me as a small actor. Mark Wahlberg is probably shorter than Damon and he looks like he could pound the shit out of someone.

My favorite female action hero has to be Ripley and she didn't perform any supernatural acts of strength, she just showed extraordinary courage time and time again. She was a believable and sympathetic character unlike some of these stick insects currently passing as human women in the movies.

Posted by: snapnhiss at August 29, 2011 6:58 AM

"I just always wonder why Americans don't like female action stars. Asia clearly has no problem with them, and are actually much more conserative in regards to women role in society. Weird."

I was actually thinking about this as well. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon did a good job of making the females in the movie appear very badass.

"They perfectly used Summer's grace and flexibility while with Zoe it was practically pathetic. It was almost she was some brawler trying to overpower her element"

And he overpowers her pretty much the whole time. She gets enough shots in to come to a draw, but that's about it.

Posted by: Matt at August 29, 2011 7:57 AM

ok. bullet points people
* it seems like problem (as well as everything said above) is the need in modern blockbusters for the female lead to be 'sexy' the whole time and the wierd standard of sexyness in todays hollywood/popular culture that seems to trump everything else, even the need for moderately plausible ass-kicking

* This wierd standard dictates the looks which are acceptable for most film actresses across genres. I think you wrote about it (in between trolling) in "the brief deobjectification of the action movie actress"

* the bad influence of the cosmetics/advertising industry. A large part of the career of the average Hollywood blockbuster actress consists of endorsements for cosmetics and such. The beauty industry requires an unobtainable definition of 'beauty' for people to aspire to so that they will buy stuff. Most actresses are required to look nothing like regular people and even less like people who can kick an ass or two.

* studios have tended to put out blockbuster action films designed to appeal to the teenage boys that they've decided are the main cinema audience nowadays. This tends to negatively influence the way women look and are portrayed. Just look at other things made mostly for teenage boys like wrestling and porn.

* In Asian ass kicking movies with girls in, those girls really do know how to kick an ass, they went through the gruelling Peking opera school kung fu program(or something), you can see how slow and clumsy regular normal people (with a few weeks training) look compared to them If you compare the fighting in kill bill to any proper kung fu movie, kill bill comes out looking like a goat-fuck

Posted by: mangekyou sharingan at August 29, 2011 8:11 AM

For me it's less about the height of a person or even their weight, and more about how they actually look.

Olympic gymnasts for example of some of the tiniest of athletes. But have you taken a look at them? They are more than fit. They are flexible, muscular and in many cases even a little cut. They are quick, agile and can do things that most of us would require wires and CGI to perform. With a little combat training applied to their skills, I'm sure they could be formidable in a fight.

I have seen martial art masters who look so small that they could be shipped in a milk crate. But were so pumped that I have no doubt they could probably wipe out my entire neighborhood before breakfast. In both cases they often people who are petite to say they least, but perform feats that are not unbelievable.

My problem isn't that someone is short or light. My problem is when they don't look like they are maximizing what they have. To me a small, skinny person kicking major ass is no more believable that a fat, out-of-shape person knocking out an MMA fighter with a few flying aerial kicks. If someone trains, odds are they are going to look more the part. They don't need to look like Mr. Universe, but it would be nice if a good diet and exercise looked like a major part of their day.

Posted by: bleujayone at August 29, 2011 8:12 AM

Mark Wahlberg is probably shorter than Damon and he looks like he could pound the shit out of someone.

Thank you. (Wahlberg is 5' 8'' and Damon is 5' 10'' )

A lot of men simply don’t find the Linda Hamilton in Terminator types sexually attractive,

I like to quote Mr.T here.

Posted by: haplo at August 29, 2011 8:20 AM

"If you compare the fighting in kill bill to any proper kung fu movie, kill bill comes out looking like a goat-fuck"

(nods head slowly)

Compare The Bride vs. The Crazy 88's where Uma looks completely like an actress who was shown how to do fight scenes for a movie versus the fight scene between Ziyi Zhang and Michelle Yeoh in Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon.

Posted by: Matt at August 29, 2011 8:38 AM

Two words: "Jenette Goldstein".

Okay, one more: "Vasquez".

Posted by: mograph at August 29, 2011 9:40 AM

and Hugh Jackman may not actually be capable of leaping into a moving helicopter

I *thought* that gorilla in Rise of the Planet of the Apes looked familiar.

Posted by: Pete at August 29, 2011 9:46 AM

Michelle Rodriguez is so awesome. I really wish Ridley Scott had put her in the new Alien movie as a Ripley/Vasquez type badass.

Posted by: asdff at August 29, 2011 9:48 AM

There are a ton of variables that go into this type of discussion. Did you guys ever see that video of Danzig getting punched in the face? That dude is sooo built (well...was, I'm not sure about now), and went down so hard and so fast. One punch. That's all. Plus, I mean, it's Danzig. Who would of thought?

I was going to say something else, but I forgot what it was.

Posted by: Candee at August 29, 2011 9:50 AM

I think a good way around this is to show that the female action stars are as adept and capable with weapons as any guy. Look at the Kill Bill movies (yes, even if they were all over the place). The Bride using a sword or a knife against her foes allows us to suspend belief in an acceptable manner because it bases her actions on knowledge gained and innate talent -- not on physical attributes.

Knowing how to fire an Uzi is asexual. You either know how or you don't.

(And that's the thing with Colombiana (as opposed to Salt). In Colombiana, I believe there was only one hand-to-hand combat scene, and it was with a regular sized guy, and it took Saldana a while to put him away. The rest of the movie featured her using lots of weapons, including a rocket launcher and a machine gun. She was really good with guns, and at sneaking away from her captors, and her size was a big advantage in that respect. -- DR)

Posted by: Fredo at August 29, 2011 9:51 AM

Matt Damon is 5'10". How is that pint-sized? You leave my fake husband alone, Rowles!

Posted by: Scully at August 29, 2011 10:01 AM

Wherein Dustin very defensively comes out of the closet.

Posted by: Jeff in Middletucky at August 29, 2011 10:16 AM

If you can act the part, I don't have a problem with you. Saldana seems to have nailed the character.

This sounds like the same complaint that hits horror films. Since when does "but that can't happen in real life" actually matter in a piece of fiction? Y'all are aware that everything in a non-documentary film is scripted, directed, controlled, and edited as tightly as possible, right? Even in those gritty tiny dramas with the explosive performances that feel real?

If you can't accept that the character does what the character does solely because of the way they look, that's your problem. That's not the actor's problem unless their performance is the issue. I don't think that's the case with action films as America, as a rule, accepts some horrid male actors as action stars because they're hot.

Posted by: Robert at August 29, 2011 10:25 AM

Waaaaaaaait, Damon's 5'10''? That's 1,78cm. That's tall. That's 10cm taller than me. That's not pint-sized. Personally, I prefer guys like him in action movies than say, Jason Momoa. It's absolutely no fun watching a guy the size of a brick wall punch people he could easily know down with a flick of his finger. It's cruelty.

Posted by: Holly at August 29, 2011 11:04 AM

2) she’s f*cking super hot and that doesn’t make me gay for thinking so (and if you’re the type to think so, who f*cking cares)

Carano is a good-looking woman, and that's why it doesn't matter how the movie does. Sure, there are trolls who think if a woman isn't built like Natalie Portman then she looks like a dude, but those guys are idiots. Guys with even a modicum of respect for women will see her as hot, so if the movie makes a lot of money it won't prove anything one way or the other. Cast that Cyborg chick, the one who beat Carano's ass and who is, it must be said, not terribly attractive, in a movie and see if it makes money. It won't.

Posted by: Todd at August 29, 2011 11:24 AM

I dispute the allegation that Damon is 5'10''. If that was taken from his IMDB page, the rule of thumb is to subtract 2-3 inches from whatever IMDB lists.

Posted by: PaddyDog at August 29, 2011 11:38 AM

I get pissed about the teeny kick ass action girl, but at the same time I don't. I understand exactly what's addressed here, it's bullshit that we can't have realistic action girls, either all over bigger and tougher, or at least physically, obviously muscular and not just thin and pleasingly toned.

I don't always get pissed because I'm a skinny girl myself so I like seeing my body type kick ass on screen. Also I do roller derby and my legs are CRAZY strong so I can kick really hard. And hit you with skates.

Posted by: Nadine at August 29, 2011 12:21 PM

Posted by: haplo at August 29, 2011 12:38 PM

The rule in live theater was that a guy can win a fight against a girl once, but she has to kick his ass by the end of the day, or the crowd gets belligerent and hateful. So, back when I was young and reasonably thin (5'8", 125 lbs), I used to beat the ever-loving crap out of a guy 6' and 250 lbs. The trick is to appear to be faster, use smaller size to dodge under blows, and always, always fight dirty. Smaller women than I pulled it off on a regular basis, and the crowd never doubted that they could. Granted, without the right choreography and weeks of practice, we could not have sold any of it.

I would LOVE to see more muscular/fit women in action roles. There are a lot of us who aren't teenage boys (and my teen boys aren't a huge fan of the uber-skinny actresses out there), so maybe someone in Hollywood might consider throwing us more of a meaty bone. No, I'm not holding my breath.

Posted by: Reba at August 29, 2011 12:58 PM

I think the comparison between Linda Hamilton/Michelle Rodriguez and Angelina Jolie/Zoe Saldana is kind of like comparing size 00 to size 0. Or maybe size 2s. LH & MR are not appreciably bigger than Jolie and Saldana.

Overall, the believability does come down to the skill over brute force issue. If you're asking me to believe that Zoe Saldana could throw a 250 lb man over her head, then know, I wouldn't buy it. But if you're asking me to believe she can execute some well-placed punches and put a guy out, that I could.

Also- ALL of those women could handle basic training and then some. Seriously. Most movie stars - male and female -work out so much that I believe most of them have excellent strength & stamina.

Posted by: Sara Tonin at August 29, 2011 1:10 PM

Both Wahlberg and Damon are built like bulldogs. Walhberg can and did beat the crap out of someone- he's done time for attempted murder.

Funny nobody mentions Jennifer Garner in Alias. She's very lean but athletic. I preferred Jolie in Tomb Raider with that build. Plus Cameron Diaz faked it pretty well in Charlie's Angels. It all about the legs people...

Posted by: bananapanda at August 29, 2011 2:08 PM

Battle Royale time! Here are your contestants of underweight, but surprisingly strong for their size, women:

Sarah Michelle Gellar (Buffy)

Maggie Q (Nikita)

Zoe Saldana (from Colombiana)

Zoe Saldana (from Losers)

Saoirse Ronan (Hanna)

Chloe Moretz (Kick Ass & Let Me In)

Ziyi Zhang (Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon)

Uma Thurman (Kill Bill)

And the entire cast of Sucker Punch

GO!

Posted by: John W at August 29, 2011 2:35 PM

I should have "small" instead of "underweight".

Posted by: John W at August 29, 2011 2:36 PM

i'm watching maggie q getting her ass handed to her by McClane right now so there you go.

well placed blows mean nothing when the source lacks the power required to really put out a guy.

why don't zoe date joe jonas/zac efron already and we can all be happy.

Posted by: haplo at August 29, 2011 3:40 PM

My current fave action hero is Pam from "Archer."

Posted by: Slash at August 29, 2011 4:00 PM

Matt Damon is not pint sized! He's perfect sized. *sigh*

Posted by: Lemon Poundcake at August 29, 2011 4:09 PM

Why can't Katee Sackhoff get a little love in casting? She's an attractive woman who has always looked fit and athletic. It wouldn't be a stretch at all for her to be an action hero.

Posted by: Amanda6 at August 29, 2011 6:46 PM

I would make the arguement that in sci-fi, physics are suspended by the plot and a camaro transforming into a robot and telling poop jokes is believable because the story resides in a universe that allows it. But that would require my defending Transformers which isn't happening for any reason. Maybe a compromise; any movie where Angelina Jolie is beating someone up is sci-fi.

Posted by: carrboroninja at August 29, 2011 7:14 PM

I hate admitting that I can't kick a man's ass. I hate it. But I know it's true because I have teensy arms and wrists so small that even the tightest setting on handcuffs are loose enough for me to swing them around (don't ask how I know that).

I guess my jumping the gun on commenting about the movie was that the commercials didn't show her handling weapons as much as kicking ass or gyrating in short shorts. I don't think your review did either, but I was probably too busy just forming my argument to notice either way. Now that you say she's a gun-toting gal, I'm more inclined to believe that. A female assassin? Fo sho. A female ass kicker? I just dunno.

And I can't say that I suspend my disbelief easily for movies in general. I guess it's a stupid double-standard that I have to open my mouth for this, but keep my mouth shut for Transformers. I don't know why that is... maybe I just want so badly to have my Bourne in a bra and don't see her anywhere. Also, I know I'll never ever watch Transformers.

I do love Zoe Saldana, though. She had my heart in Center Stage -- DON'T JUDGE ME.

Posted by: Double R at August 29, 2011 8:22 PM

Attend a typical class of classical real world martial arts and you can watch women her size power punch concrete slabs and throw guys around like rag dolls all day.

Posted by: Mr. Stitch at August 29, 2011 10:16 PM

Mostly, I'm just here to ask the following question.

While I think it's cool that that Carano chick is not a size 0 and can obviously kick the crap out of some dudes, and I appreciate that many of you think she's hot, does no-one care that she would appear to have the charisma/stage presence/acting skills of a hairbrush? That's based on the trailer, and I'm really sorry, but I think it's going to take more than surrounding her with some good actors (do they really kill of Fassbender in the TRAILER??) to make that movie a success.

I am 100% absolutely positively in favor of ass-kicking females (I happen to be one) but I guess I just want it all: someone who believably kicks ass AND can actually act and open a movie.

Posted by: Samantha at August 30, 2011 2:06 PM

make emma roberts date Joe Jonas and give her a few yrs after the dumping.

Posted by: haplo at August 30, 2011 5:55 PM

Not sure if this article is overlooking the fact that some filmgoers are women, or if this is just a reflection of the industry. But please remember women like action films too, so the physique of the stars shouldn't just be based on men's preferences.

Posted by: Tate at September 3, 2011 6:46 PM

Michelle Rodriguez may be more suitable for these types of roles, but what do men say when they see Rodriguez? “She must be a lesbian.”

Michelle Rodriguez is a lesbian.

Michelle Rodriguez — (isn’t) exactly burning up the box-office.

Michelle Rodriguez was in the highest grossing movie of all time.

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Posted by: fashionable wardrobe at September 6, 2011 7:46 AM

Lots of good points on here and here is another good point. Most women only watch movies if they have hot, perfect, chiseled looking guys. Every male actor mentioned in these comments is a "hot" actor. Women are every bit as bad as men when it comes to looks. Women also post as many derogatory comments as men. The main point is stop blaming men for all the woes, both men and women are equally good and bad.

The primary target for Hollywood (including both television and movies) is tween girls, followed by women 15-40. It started with the success of Titanic years ago and hasn't changed. Anything involving female heroes is almost guaranteed a green-light. Scripts which originally called for male leads have been getting changed to female leads. 70-80 percent of all new books and novels feature female leads with male characters often used as "targets" to show how awesome the female lead is in comparison to men.

Today's movies, TV and books all have the same female bad ass formula.
For example:

Conan encounters a group of 5 thugs, thugs grunt and attack Conan, Conan grunts and kills thugs.

Shelly encounters group of 20 thugs, Shelly says "you men aren't walking away", Thug one says "your just a women, we'll taste your goods and eat your flesh", Shelly crotch kicks half the thugs and kills them all but not before one last quip "eat my sword bitch" Shelly says as she stabs last thug in groin. (this firmly establishes all men are rapists and cannibals)

Today's female leads are constantly shown killing, maiming, beating, humiliating men as a way to establish their "toughness" factor. Rarely to never do you see male leads killing, maiming, beating, humiliating women.

Posted by: Conall at September 13, 2011 3:39 AM