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George W. Bush Doesn't Like Black Music

By Caspar Salmon | Posted Under Music | Comments (57)



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Stephin Merritt, the lead singer of the quite wonderful Magnetic Fields, caused something of a debate among music critics a few years back, first by writing a list of the 20th Century’s greatest recordings that featured only a handful by black artists, and then stating his distaste for hip-hop in an interview for Salon, singling out Outkast as an example of music that stereotypes black people. Sasha Frere-Jones, the critic for the New Yorker, called Merritt a ‘rockist cracker’ on his blog, and John Cook leapt to Merritt’s defense at Slate magazine by asking, “If you don’t like rap, are you a racist?”, and pondering whether you need 12.5% of black music on your iPod in order to qualify as a non-racist.

I think we can all safely say that the answer to that is no (it may just be that you’re a non-violent feminist and gay rights advocate; Oprah, for instance, famously refuses to interview rappers whose lyrics are sexist). But if you don’t like rap, or blues, or soul, or funk, or reggae? Or rock? What does that make you? Well, it means that most likely you’re not into rhythm or syncopation — what black music brought with it, when the first blues artists started to change music in the 1930s, was a beat, and not just a little driving beat: it’s a beat that sort of breaks itself, that draws attention to itself.

I’m interested in the way that the music you listen to is a reflection of who you are: does this debate carry over to other categories, like age, gender and sexuality? Is there such a thing as female music? I would argue that Joni Mitchell writes very female music (and indeed, at her beginnings, very white music; she later incorporated rhythm and world music to her sound, quite brilliantly). Is there such a thing as homosexual music? I’m not sure about that one: Merritt shares with Rufus Wainwright, Cole Porter and Noel Coward a certain sensibility, a delicacy of tone, and his songs have that irony that is a crucial component of camp. Is there a music of older people? I don’t think so.

So anyway: let’s start dissecting our music collections. I think I grew up listening to quite white music (The Beatles, Queen, Roberta Flack, Ella Fitzgerald, Bob Dylan), and slowly discovered that I also liked more black music: the passion of gospel and soul; the beat of hip-hop; the rhythm of blues. I think about 40% of the music I listen to now is black, but a worrying majority of that black music is from the olden days. In terms of modern music that might be termed black, I have a strong amount of hip-hop (from Public Enemy to Lupe Fiasco), a handful of grime (Dizzee Rascal), hardly any R’n’B, and no dance-hall/reggae etc. My tastes in modern music are very white indeed: a lot of the indie-pop I listen to is completely pale-face, from the Arcade Fire and Andrew Bird to Wainwright and Joanna Newsom (for instance). The predominance of my black music is from the thirties (Robert Johnson) through to the seventies (Stevie Wonder), at which point I start going off it because of my dislike of funk, which started to weave its way in around then.

So: not doing that well on race, Caspar. For shame. On women I’m doing OK — I think I listen to about 50% female, 50% male artists. I know so many men who hardly listen to women at all, and I don’t think this is about sexism so much as sexuality: I think so many songs deal with wanting to do someone, and a lot of men don’t want to sing along to something that talks about a man. I could be wrong. It’s also to do with voices: I marginally prefer listening to a female voice, but my sister, for instance, far prefers listening to a male voice. I like high notes, and can nearly match Joni Mitchell if I’m singing along. Mitchell I count particularly as very female music, as I said earlier, and so are Kate and Anna McGarrigle, Kate Bush, Loretta Lynn and Fiona Apple. I don’t count Blondie as female, in the same way I don’t count Love as black. I don’t think of Patti Smith as very female, either, but she’s not very male. Perhaps I should start enumerating androgynes.

As for homo music: hmm. I think we’re looking at about 5% there: and even then, I’m having to count music by gay people and not necessarily gay music. I’m counting Wainwright, Final Fantasy, Chris Garneau, the Organ, k.d. lang, the Hidden Cameras, the Magnetic Fields, Cole Porter, Patrick Wolf. I’m not counting Little Richard. But there’s no Cher, Kylie, Madonna or Pet Shop Boys. I think listening to a lot of women is probably quite gay. Interestingly, the gay stuff mostly comes from recent times. I’m not sure what to make of that: are there gay singers I’m unaware of, who were working in the 70s? Why are they only appearing now?

So that’s race, gender and sexuality. I think in terms of nationality, I’m almost entirely USA. That accounts for country music, soul, gospel and blues, and most of the indie: I’d say about 85%. Canada is doing quite well, too, and Britain (where I actually live) and France (where I grew up) have only a smattering of stuff, from the Smiths (very white; not very gay) and Jacques Brel to Alasdair Roberts and Camille. Africa is very under-represented indeed, and so are Russia and Asia.

I think overall my music reflects my personality quite well: what it says is that I’m a non-racist white person who nevertheless doesn’t know that many black people; that I feel the influence of American culture; that I try and keep up with modern stuff but listen to music predominantly from the olden days; that I’m queer and kind of OK with it. What are the demographics of your music? What does it say about you?

Caspar likes books, music and films, and would never be described as “enigmatic.” Read more about him at his blog, Straight Outta Crouch End.









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Comments

Is this a joke? Are we seriously going to base whether or not people are racist, homophobic, or mysogynist by what is in their record collection?

Posted by: TylerDFC at May 21, 2009 12:25 PM

Haha, cute. I have to go over there now.

Posted by: Genny (also Rusty) at May 21, 2009 12:29 PM

I've always tried to follow the principal of: if I like it, I'll listen to it. Does that mean I'm an audio racist because I don't like something just because of how it sounds? I'm so disappointed in myself.

Posted by: admin at May 21, 2009 12:34 PM

I grew up listening mostly to "black" baby boomer music, plus a smattering of music by white bands imitating black musicians (Talking Heads was a big one).

My parents were early baby boomers, grew up in integrated neighborhoods and were involved in the civil rights movement, so there was a lot of blues and soul. The standards: Marvin Gaye, Ray Charles, early Stevie Wonder, Earth Wind and Fire, etc. Later my dad totally embarrassed me by bringing home all sorts of hip hop and early-90s soul stuff: he especially liked En Vogue, Terrence Trent D'Arby and Tribe Called Quest.

My parents were also pretty dismissive of all the white-bread Baby Boomer music. We never really listened to the Beatles in my house, and mom's contempt for the Beach Boys knows no limits.

So, not surprisingly, I now gravitate towards any music that has heavy blues or soul influences. So far, I've gotten my parents into Arcade Fire (which Frere Jones "indicted" as being totally white, but I'm not convinced), The White Stripes, and Kanye.

Posted by: the essence of fanciness and class at May 21, 2009 12:35 PM

I dunno where I'm supposed to fit, in terms of my musical preferences. I'm a white, bi-sexual woman born, raised, and still living in West Virginia. I grew up in the most rural part of the state, and now live in what passes for suburbia around these parts. My musical taste is all over the place, and I do my very best not to think of music as white, black, gay, male, female, etc. (but I probably fail most of the time). I absolutely love finding new music that excites me from genres I never thought I'd enjoy. My latest joy (oddly) is the blues station on my On Demand music channels. I guess that would be considered "black" music, but all I know is it's music with heart and real emotion and I dig it.

Posted by: puregonzo at May 21, 2009 12:44 PM

I don't dig the vast majority of rap, but have a few black artists in my music library -- Earth, Wind & Fire, Prince, Chuck Berry, Hendrix, Miles Davis, Coltrane, Billie Holiday... Most of the music I like in GENERAL is older. I'm just not big on current music, so any black music you'd find in my library would tend to be completely out of date, and most likely NOT of the rap variety -- especially since I find most of it thoroughly off-putting. Even if I COULD understand the lyrics... and I've read more than a few of them... yeah, I find a good many of them abhorrent. And many more just downright silly. Then again, I've encountered several that are fucking great -- too bad the damned MUSIC is headache inducing. Bang, bang, bang. Ouch.

(Among the ones I consider great? Nas. Also the guy who wrote that one about the blood diamonds.)

I do find it strange, the concept of attempting to see whether one is sufficiently integrated by perusing one's music catalogue. I happen to have pretty white-bread tastes in most of my artistic life. I am middle-brow, straight up. Movies, television, music, books -- bland central station. Also happen to be one of the leftiest, most liberal, earnestly unbigoted people you could hope to meet. I don't think the whiteness of my music library has thing one to do with my racial biases or lack thereof.

Posted by: Maryscott O'Connor at May 21, 2009 12:45 PM

I'm not sure if I'm down with the idea that your music makes you who you are, or vice versa. About 80% of my ipod is filled with wistful/sad girls singing piano-filled songs about bad days and kitties, 5% video game theme songs, and the other 15% is a variation of irish, punk, or irish punk. That would mean I'm a punky irish sad gamer girl with a piano who's waaay too obsessed with kitties. ...Wait. Disregard everything I said.

Posted by: CinnabarriGirl at May 21, 2009 12:45 PM

Oh -- I hope it goes without saying that I have a TON of female artists in my library.

A lot of Bob Dylan... and James Taylor. So. Now you know how it goes with me.

Posted by: Maryscott O'Connor at May 21, 2009 12:46 PM

Yes, Tyler.
Yes, we are.
Nothing is worthwhile in this world if it cannot be quantified in some way. Even if it is our own loosely attributed prejudice that someone else slaps upon us based on the music we personally like.
On a side note, the reason Pajiba is not a real review site is because they do not have numbers, stars, or a direction-oriented thumb to go with their reviews.

Posted by: Jim Doggie at May 21, 2009 12:52 PM

As for my music---I listen to music.
If I like it, I like it.
If I don't, I don't.
Wow. Sounds fucking crazy.

Posted by: Jim Doggie at May 21, 2009 12:53 PM

I always considered Roberta Flack to be strictly R&B, I didn't know she was lumped into the "White music" category. Besides you, I have yet to meet a White person who listened to her music.

My own tastes vary. I usually listen to downtempo/trip-hop (Thievery Corporation, Zero 7, Massive Attack, etc) than anything else. Rap gets such a bad name because for every Mos Def & Nas, you get a dozen shitty teenage knockoffs, rapping about absolutely nothing. And those are the guys who make the most money.

But as I said, my tastes go all over. I listen to rap, r&b, neo-soul, pop (older pop like Madonna, & Michael Jackson, not this new shit) country, and electronic fused jazz.

Posted by: Brie at May 21, 2009 12:57 PM

singling out Outkast as an example of music that stereotypes black people.

Seriously? Outkast? A majority of their lyrics revolve around telling their listeners (predominantly black males) to get off their ass and do something with their life.

For instance, Bombs Over Baghdad: Before you read up, get a laptop/Make a business for yourself, boy. Set some goals/Make a fat diamond out of dusty coals.

I find it odd that they would be singled out when they're one of the few really amazing hip-hop groups out there

Posted by: Annie_Reckson at May 21, 2009 1:02 PM

I think listening to a lot of women is probably quite gay.

Why?

Posted by: Anna von Beaverplatz at May 21, 2009 1:05 PM

God, I get tired of people knocking "rap" music. Because this?

"Rap gets such a bad name because for every Mos Def & Nas, you get a dozen shitty teenage knockoffs, rapping about absolutely nothing. And those are the guys who make the most money."

Can be said of literally every genre. Metal. Pop. Punk. Techno. Trip hop. You name it. Almost every artistic medium and genre is 90% shit, and the trick is finding the stuff that appeals to you.

Also, there's no law saying you HAVE to like hip hop. You don't have to talk about the thuggery or the beats or the bullshit. Just say it's not your thing. Because once people start isolating reasons, they just end up generalizing, and hip hop is too varied and too diverse a genre to be generalized about.

No, you're not a racist if you don't like hip hop. But when people start ardently defending WHY they don't, they start to sound like they're making an excuse.

Don't knock the genre wholesale. There are literally hundreds of smart, talented, poetic, brilliant hip hop artists out there. You just haven't found them yet.

Posted by: TK at May 21, 2009 1:05 PM

If I can slide from Public Enemy to Merle Haggard, slip into Erasure, Pet Shop Boys and The Communards, wander over to P.O.S. followed by Arcade Fire and finish up with a buffet that includes Robert Johnson, Howlin' Wolf, A Band of Horses, Elizabeth and the Catapult, Miles Davis, Thea Gilmore, King Sunny Ade and Patsy Cline, THEN dance to 'The Time Warp' for dessert, well what does that make me?
Oh, yeah... a guy with a nice record collection who realy,really likes music.
I can't read anymore into it than that.

Posted by: Spender at May 21, 2009 1:11 PM

CinnabarriGirl, I love you. :)

Posted by: puregonzo at May 21, 2009 1:24 PM

A dislike of funk? What?! How is that possible?

Posted by: katy at May 21, 2009 1:28 PM

I'd say, generally, a person's taste in music is not a reflection of any so-called racist tendencies. I will mention that people who use a dislike of radio rap to brand the entire genre and to a larger degree black people, really annoy me (heck, DeusExMalcontent once went on a rant about that and I stopped reading his site for months).

Me, being a black Nigerian-born, living in the US since I was one with parents who only listened to African music and classical music (and Michael Jackson), I listen to just about anything. My favorite lyricist is actually Fiona Apple; I love Mos Def; I think Fall Out Boy and PATD have lots of great songs; the Beatles should be required listening for anyone interested in making music; disco is still alive; the 70's had the overall best music and most experimentation; but if you don't like the 80's, you're probably a commie; and Nirvana is completely overrated.

Posted by: Gnaius at May 21, 2009 1:29 PM

Oh... I don't care much for Cumbia, Nortena or Ranchero but I do loves me some Salsa tunes. So, do I get a pass on the "He Must Be Biased Against Latins" charge?

Posted by: Spender at May 21, 2009 1:29 PM

You're good people, Gnaius.

Posted by: TK at May 21, 2009 1:31 PM

A dislike of funk? What?! How is that possible?

Posted by: katy at May 21, 2009 1:28 PM
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Parliament/Funkadelic! The Bar-Kays! The freakin' OHIO PLAYERS, people! Funk lives.
I loves The Katy.
Now let's do The Bump.

Posted by: Spender at May 21, 2009 1:32 PM

Re: rap

What TK said.

...and when is Pajiba going to do an in-depth survey of the music listening preferences of Pajibans? I'm really interested to learn more about the overall make-up of the site!

Posted by: Gnaius at May 21, 2009 1:32 PM

My music is about 40% Asian artists (M-Flo, Capsule, Denki Groove, HalCali, Clazziquai), 20% scores, and 20% pretentious habits courtesy of previous employment in the music business...so basically that makes me Ryuichi Sakamoto.

Seriously,...people are trying to pass all this up as quantifiable?

Posted by: Ren at May 21, 2009 1:39 PM

Last thing - and what is "gay" music? I totally understand if you mean the artist, but that concept of "gay" music is a genre is non-sensical. Unless people want to start calling Amy Grant's style hetero-music. Lyrics are about the experiences the artist is trying to relay; and if it's man-on-man or whatever, that doesn't take anything away from the things the person went through...

And besides, if my listening to Scissor Sisters is supposed to be indicative of my preferences (versus the fact they just make fun dancing music), at least that means I now more options in the dating scene!

Posted by: Gnaius at May 21, 2009 1:40 PM

Gnaius, as I read the many "slings and arrows" comments directed at TK, Felicia, Caspar and the other very fine music writers here, I've been wondering when (and hoping for) the same.

Posted by: Spender at May 21, 2009 1:40 PM

puregonzo ,

It was the video game theme songs, wasn't it? I simply believe one hasn't lived until one has heard The Main Theme to The Legend of Zelda-orchestra, techno, and System of a Down style! I will refrain from discussing the Final Fantasy soundtracks. For everyone's benefit.

Posted by: CinnabarriGirl at May 21, 2009 1:41 PM

Also, there's no law saying you HAVE to like hip hop. You don't have to talk about the thuggery or the beats or the bullshit. Just say it's not your thing. Because once people start isolating reasons, they just end up generalizing, and hip hop is too varied and too diverse a genre to be generalized about.

Saying "rap or hip hop isn't my thing" wouldn't be true. I do like it, but that's not the point. I just think it gets belittled by the bullshit about cars, bitches, drugs and liquor all the time.

Posted by: Brie at May 21, 2009 1:51 PM

...and when is Pajiba going to do an in-depth survey of the music listening preferences of Pajibans? I'm really interested to learn more about the overall make-up of the site!

Posted by: Gnaius at May 21, 2009 1:32 PM
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I would very much like to see this.

Posted by: Spender at May 21, 2009 1:54 PM

I decided I was going to skip this one. Then I noticed that he just called Ella Fitzgerald "white music". What the hell, man?

I listen to music because I LOVE MUSIC. Whether it's rock or jazz or funk or blues or bluegrass (I'll admit the bluegrass isn't by choice) or classical or opera (that MUST be white music, to hell with Jessye Norman or Leontyne Price or Kathleen Battle, or MOTHERFUCKING Paul Robeson). Maybe I should just boil it down to color instead, what a great idea.

P.S. Gnaius, I too take a great pleasure in listening to the Scissor Sisters, even though I am not in their "demographic", or they in mine. Fun dancing music, indeed.

Posted by: Anne (in Reno) at May 21, 2009 2:23 PM

OK, just a few brief comments:

- Tongue in cheek, people
- No, not listening to female artists doesn't make you a sexist, likewise black/racist, gay/homophobe. I do think our cultural choices speak about certain aspects of us, however
- Anna: because you're often singing along to and/or identifying with a straight female viewpoint, as I mentioned.
- Gnaius: I'm not sure what makes music gay. Camp is a factor for some music, from disco to musicals (neither of them my thing, particularly), and I think irony and drama are important too. I'm not talking about the content, particularly, but about a tone, an artistic sensibility. Think about it in terms of queer cinema, perhaps, and the way it attempted to subvert hetero-normative styles aesthetically
- TK: Keep up the good fight on the rap front, brother.
- Brie: yeah, you may be right. I consider Flack's album First Take and 'Killing Me Softly' white, though: very little rhythm, and a lot based on patterns of white folk music

Posted by: Caspar at May 21, 2009 2:27 PM

I'm going to assume this is mildly satirical.

Posted by: ChristianH at May 21, 2009 2:53 PM

This is a silly topic.

It's fine to say that musical tastes are a reflection of where a person comes from, but for more problematic to say its a reflection of certain values.

Music is a preference, not an indicator of your inherent, possibly buried, racist or otherwise biased beliefs. Music and lyrics are about universal themes that otherwise disparate groups of people can relate to. Women don't exclusively sing about topics that only women can understand any more than gays sing about only gay things, etc...

Furthermore, few of us would listen to a song and decide whether we liked it or not based on the characteristics of the singer or band. I couldn't even tell you the race/sexual orientation or (sometimes) even the gender of the singer/band. They're just digital files that I like.

The labeling is kind of irritating too. It's fine to use genres to distinguish between music types, but do we really need to make assumptions about the "type" of person it appeals to. Really?

Posted by: Nate at May 21, 2009 2:58 PM

Mm hm, I see now. In the first instance you were talking about female music, and in the second gay music, so I didn't make the connection.

Posted by: Anna von Beaverplatz at May 21, 2009 3:24 PM

Here's another vote for a Pajiba music survey!

My friends criticize me for being some "music elitist" but I think they miss the point. I think I'm actually pretty open-minded about music, I just know what I don't usually like and I don't usually like what plays on the radio which means that our tastes conflict quite a bit. I listen to mostly to rock (post-, hard, heavy, noise, "indie", nerd-, 'n roll), but I also love trip hop, jazz, classical, and ambient. In fact the only radio station that I bother listening to anymore is classical cos everything else seems to be modern angry guy rock which sounds the same to me, classic rock which just sounds old on the radio for some reason, or top 40 hip pop which makes me want to claw at my eardrums with a rusty fork. The thing is, I know there are hip hop artists out there who make good music and actually have a talent with lyrics, I just have no idea where to find them since they never seem to be playing anywhere I hear hip hop music. Oh well...

Posted by: HotMustard at May 21, 2009 3:49 PM

Can anyone besides me smell the aroma of privelege here? This whole essay starts from a premise that the reader is a white male. To have to be concerned about how much "black" or female music is in one's I-Pod presumes that your starting point is white male music. And that starting point sucks since the presumption that rock is "white" is off base, since rock is the granchild of rhymthm and blues and the great grandchild of the blues. And the blues are a hybrid of slave call and response and appalachian music. Modern day music is as mixed racially as the culture that listens to it.

Let it go. It smacks of superiority syndrome and a lack of knowledge about American music.

Posted by: khia213 at May 21, 2009 4:51 PM

Funny thing, I came to the rap game late in my teens, I’m slow like that. I grew up listening to Gladys Night, War, Stevie Wonder, The Bar-Kays, shit like that, and I enjoyed it. I would come home from school and my mom would be listening to Gladys, I really miss those days. Music is so personal, how can a critic say with certainty which type of music is better. I know one thing, white America put a black man in the white house that has Jay-Z and ludacris in his I-Pod, so go figure that shit out.

Posted by: Guess Who! at May 21, 2009 5:01 PM

And one more thing, who the fuck do you have to blow around here to get the Terminator review up? I'm thinking about going to see it tonight

Posted by: Guess Who! at May 21, 2009 5:09 PM

This reminds me of this Salon.com article where the author asked people who didn't like disco, "So are you a racist, a homophobe, or both?"

The why I figure, hating zydeco doesn't mean I'm bigoted against Louisianians and hating opera doesn't mean I have something against the Germanic peoples, so hating rap doesn't mean I'm a racist.

Posted by: muchsarcasm at May 21, 2009 5:18 PM

How can you not like funk?!?!?
If you like James Brown, you should like funk (stick with me here). They both emphasize the 1, it's awesome.
Parliament? Sly and the Family Stone? Hell, even Average White Band (shut up) is pretty fucking great.
That's it, I'm making a funk playlist and you will LISTEN to it, Caspar.

Posted by: Sharon at May 21, 2009 5:43 PM

Fascinating topic, terribly superficial column.

Posted by: paco at May 21, 2009 6:09 PM

I actually have 44 of 354 songs on my iPod (12.43%) that are of the rap/hip hop/funk persuasion. I must be a racist.

Posted by: Mick J at May 21, 2009 6:36 PM

Sharon, it's a deal. I like Sly and the Family Stone well enough, certainly their earlier stuff - and Parliament/Funkadelic and all that George Clinton stuff, I'm less sold on, I think. (Didn't it lead to the Red Hot Chili Peppers? I rest my case) It might have something to do with the wah-wah guitar. But sure, put it together and I'll give it a listen!

Very briefly, I reject khia213's suggestion that modern rock is black, as I find many cultures have fed into contemporary rock music, from folk music for instance, that have tended to whiten rock music almost entirely. Read Sacha Frere-Jones on the subject; he's very enlightening. I'd love to know where the black roots of the Arcade Fire and Coldplay are, for instance. My point was that black music brings rhythm into music, and a lot of current indie-rock, certainly, sounds very white to me for that very lack.

Posted by: Caspar at May 21, 2009 9:11 PM

“ And Parliament/Funkadelic and all that George Clinton stuff, I’m less sold on, I think”

Stuff?

*sigh*

Posted by: Guess Who! at May 21, 2009 9:58 PM

My mother did not/does not listen to music. I have much older sisters, so I'm more familiar with the music of their teens than that of my own, because by then, I had been playing the piano for the better part of ten years, and wasn't very interested in what was going on around me. Britney Spears and Limp Bizkit were very popular in my early high school years, and they weren't my thing. I know and remember George Michael's version of 'Faith', so I just didn't get the cover. Not at all.

So, I guess I've been playing the piano for about seventeen years now, and only started playing because I was able to score free lessons. We had no money for new books, so I ended up playing out of handed-down classical guides. It just so happened that I developed a passion for it. It happens.

And that is how a Canadian black female of Jamaican parentage grows up to be a classical pianist/musicologist, who listens to predominantly classical music, and whatever was going on in the eighties.

Oh, here's your TERMINATOR review: Dull as fuck.
So glad I didn't pay for it.

Posted by: Jo 'Mama' Besser at May 21, 2009 11:33 PM

This article has to be the most liberal middle class white thing I have ever read. Newsflash: no one thinks you are a homophobe because you listen to barely any music created by gay people and no one thinks you are progressive and culturally diverse because you listen to some black people music.

F

Posted by: I HATE DONKEYS at May 21, 2009 11:52 PM

Huh. Well. I hate how black people are required to like one of two genres of modern popular music now (rap or R&B). That disgusts me, especially when compared to the history of deep, creative black music. Nowadays, I can't find anything on the radio by a black person that isn't about killing somebody, fucking somebody, or buying a bunch of shit. Conspiracy theories aren't my thing, but I can't see anything about the situation that doesn't seem intentionally racist, as though some record exec decided he wanted to turn popular black culture into a shallow, materialistic, uneducated, violent, thoughtless waste of potential. And the more I think of it, the more it seems to come back to music than anything else.

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Posted by: sumit pradhan at May 22, 2009 12:46 AM

My name is , and I'm a whiteaholic.

Posted by: , (the commenter formerly known as bucdaddy) at May 22, 2009 1:02 AM

To paraphrase D.L. Hughley, if you know how many black artists are in your record collection, you're racist like a motherfucker.

Posted by: Eep at May 22, 2009 3:10 AM

Interesting topic, though i think using labels like racist, sexist, homophobic in this particular context has just led to people completely misinterpreting the author's intent and some general poo-flinging.

That being said, if the intentions of the author were to provoke a discusssion on the racial and... genderial? sexual?... whatever, diversity of the pajibazens music collection then I would love to contribute.

Here in Southern and Eastern Africa there is acutally a lot of talk abotu "white music" versus "black music" particularly in high school though i still get into discussions about it now. So I came up listening to a lot of R&B, hip-hop, whatever rap my older brother thought was cool and top 40 homemade mixtapes recorded poorly from the radio (god, who remembers tapes). Then we got satellite telly and MTV (back when they actually played music videos) rocked my world. I got into rock music after watching System of a Down's Toxicity video at around 2 am which was the only time they played any serious rock. It changed my life I tell you. Unfortunately i had to keep my growing interest in rock music a secret from my peers, as I had enough of a reputation being a coconut what with my foreign sounding accent and my nose in books all the time.

Since then my tatses have grown increasingly sophisticated and I hate that inevitable question "so what kind of music do you listen to?" I tell people anything, as long as its good. Vague as that sounds it basically means that i will listen to any genre from classical to musicals, blues, funk, to grime, to trance, to indie, etc, etc, etc. I favour interesting and intelligent lyrics and a good beat. I generally hold a deep burning loathing for most top 40 radio hits now, ironically. Though even though I won't listen to Lady Gaga and Katy Perry, still have a reputation among my friends for being the one into "mzungu music".

When I went to the States for undergrad my passion for African musci became a whole lot more pronounced as I had to make a point of searching it out. So if anyone is looking for tips give me a shout.

I will stop talking soon but I do want to say that MTV has done some terrible things to the privileged African kids who have access to it. Thanks to it, many clubs here in Kampala now have "Rock nites" where annoying underdressed undergrad girls scream at the lyrics at the top of their lungs and writhe to horrible horrible pop-rock hits like "I kissed a girl". I have had th emisfortune of attending these drunken and overcrowded events and it made me want to inject tequila directly into my skull. We do have MTV Base, and MTV Base africa now, so I suppose I should lick Viacom's smelly testicle for that.

yuck

Posted by: kaybie at May 22, 2009 4:26 AM

kaybie, definitely pass on any African music you know of! I prefer more of the older stuff like Prince Nico Mbarga and that style... not that some of the new stuff like Amadou & Mariam and K'Naan aren't great too!

Posted by: Gnaius at May 22, 2009 10:24 AM

Caspar,

It's not just the rhythm that makes the contribution. It's the performance and the liberation that comes from the sound. You don't get rock in the first place without the extravagance of Little Richard. You don't get Aerosmith without Hendrix.

But my point is that the African American contribution to music in this country is unavoidable in almost every genre.

Posted by: khia213 at May 22, 2009 1:41 PM

Gnaius and Jo "Mama" Besser,can I marry you both? Seriously! I'm a Nigerian-born woman; lived in the US for a while in the 90s/2000s; now permanently living in the UK with my hubby. Got hooked on a strange combo of Fiona Apple, Enya, Sarah Mclauglin and cheesy boy band music while living in Maine. This in addition to long-time loves of jazz and blues(courtesy of my dad), reggae, country and afrobeat (courtesy of my mother), 80s English pop (courtesy of my half-siblings who lived in the UK back then) classical music (from Tom & Jerry and my music teacher) and R&B, disco, funk and hip-hop which was the soundtrack of my growing up. My dad and I also developed a passion for Tracy Chapman and Snow (yes, the Canadian rapper) together and for a while I was very much into The White Stripes, Live and Weird Al Yankovic. What's spinning in my ipod now? Bat For Lashes, Pink, Wynton Marsalis (Romances for Saxophone, yum!) & and Angelique Kidjo. I can't even list every musical influence I have or who I love. If it sounds good to me, I'm all over it.
But to round it all up; when I moved to New Jersey from more laid back Maine, I was dumbfounded to see how much I was criticised for listening to music that wasn't R&B or hip-hop. I refuse to use the words black or white to describe music, but I got nicknames and snarky comments because of my varied taste in music and books (but that's a story for another day). The spirit of this article is just as ignorant and self-censoring as the folks who told me they only listen to "black" music to support their community yet bought only bootleg cd's. But yeah, we should totally get together and bust stereotypes wide open.
Ooh and I've never commented before! I'm so excited!

Posted by: Shai at May 22, 2009 2:11 PM

Stephin Merritt. There's a guy who never listened to OutKast.
That's all I'm gonna say about. becaus when it comes to 'Kast I'll end up going on a rant

Posted by: rbfn04 at May 22, 2009 2:47 PM

My music collection has really no ryhme or reason, if I like it I buy it.

However I will admit that 45% of my song list is Shakira, but I have absolutely no columbian ancestery as far as I know.

Posted by: Adele at May 25, 2009 3:43 AM

Huge fan of Amadou and Mariam, would recommend them to George Bush. K’naan’s debut album was on constant rotation at my house a couple of years ago, but I’ve heard he’s a kind of a douche. Sad if it’s true.
A few of my other faves for you Gnaius, and anyone else who is interested:
The classics and the basics: Fela Kuti, Youssou N’dour, Angelique Kidjo, Salif Keita, Ali Farka Touré, Ladysmith Black Mambazo and Franco.
Under the voices bestowed by God category: Tabu Ley Rochereau and Gigi
For more modern stuff; Staff Benda bilili, Femi and Seun Kuti, Rokia Traore and Tinariwen
What the kids are listening to these days; 2face, Ikechukwu, Peter Miles, Necessary Noise, Zola, Freshly Ground, Blk Jks and Esau Mwamwaya, and Asa.
I am very far from having done justice to this list but it will have to do, didn’t want to get too obscure, but will if asked.

Posted by: Kaybie at May 25, 2009 12:45 PM

K'naan blew up In Kenya and went on to do great things.Honestly I only liked his first single,I prefer Jal.His music
I grew up listening to alot of 90's pop :Spice Girls ,Backstreet Boys etc.The first time I really loved an African song was Angelique Kidjo's 'Wombolombo'and for that Im eternally grateful to her.
My tastes tend to be very diverse,from Bollywood singles to early Red Hot Chilli Peppers, if its good , I'll like it

Posted by: Ngele at May 26, 2009 4:01 AM