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The 11 Worst Music Artists of the Aughts


My Lovely Lady Lumps / Guest Contributor: George

Music | June 2, 2009 | Comments (152)


The new millennium has not been a good decade for music. With the mass corporate buyout of most local radio stations, the rise of the Emo movement, the death of rock and roll, Napster causing the outrage that it did, the decline of the music album, and the motherfucking Jonas Brothers appearing on the cover of the decrepit remains of Rolling Stone happening all in the same decade, it’s no wonder we endured such a musical holocaust such as the aughts.

The worst part, however, was how much of a waste of potential the aughts were. Come the fuck on, people. America went through two wars, an economic collapse, the absolute worst president you can have and still live in a democracy, the absolute worst vice president ever, unlimited ability to distribute music, and this is the best we could do? Fucking pathetic, the 60s would be ashamed of us.

But who were the absolute worst bands we put up with? Who were the groups and artists that brought music to its knees? Though everyone will have different opinions on what order they should be put in (especially with my last two), I think that this guide captures a fare job of the shit storm that the aughts gave us.

In picking the selection, I had to go by some guidelines in order to be fair. For one, I had to automatically disqualify anyone who was a non-music related celebrity before making an album (Tyra Banks, Paris Hilton, and Lindsay Lohan would have topped this list otherwise) as well as disqualify anyone who rose to musical prominence before this decade (Creed, Poison, and The Backstreet Boys, though the worst of their decades, would be unfair to the competition) and for the sake of fairness, I’ve tried to limit the inclusion of studio bands (with one exception too bad to ignore).

Bear in mind, to conduct research, I didn’t actually buy these albums, I didn’t even download them. I listened to the songs off Youtube with headphones, and threw away the headphones after I finished writing. Also, even though a new act could come out soon, I would really consider them more of a band of the next decade. And they would have to be truly abominable to claim a spot here.

So here it is, the absolute worst “musicians” of the last tragic decade. God, I hope the teens are better.


11. The Freecreditreport.com Band

Good Jesus eating grilled chicken with gravy, these guys suck. They’re annoying, wimpy looking, tone deaf, obnoxious, and are the only band on this list to hawk an authentic scam. (Annualcreditreport.com runs the same service, but without having to pay after the trial period. Freecreditreport.com isn’t even free.) Though easily the most morally bankrupt people on this list for doing such a thing, they only get 11th because, fortunately, they’ve never released an album, and were assembled by a studio. Feel free to continue to hate them, and pray that the new mascot for freecreditreport.com takes off.

10. The Black Eyed Peas

I don’t know much about their other work, but “My Humps” is one of the most obnoxious, irritating songs ever penned. No Fergie, after this and the meth, I wouldn’t touch you with anything other than a blunt object to your cranium to get you to never sing that fucking song again. It’s an achievement that one single song is obnoxious enough to get them here, but that’s just a testament to the sheer awfulness of this tune. I can think of nothing worse than having to listen to “My Humps,” and I pray to God these guys lose their relevance soon.


9. Katy Perry

Katy Perry is perhaps the worst example in human history of a gorgeous chick and a competent musician not being the same person. She started off in Christian Rock, which has become so pathetic of a genre that The Risen One himself would boil all of our oceans on the day of the second coming just for Creed, but then she decided to whore her looks out without producing a crumb of decent music in return.

Last year’s “One of the Boys” was cheeky pink pop so unlistenable that it would be beneath even the meager talents of Britney Spears. She didn’t even write half the songs, though I would personally brain any motherfucker involved in the making of that abomination. Hell, she fucked up the lesbian angle with her shittastic single “I Kissed A Girl,” which I didn’t even think was possible until she came along.

If only girls like this would just stick the Anna Nicole Smith route and pose naked in magazines and on the Internet while never releasing an album, the world would be a much better place.


8. Avril Lavigne

The woman is a waste of space. While equally as obnoxious as Britney or Katy, at least none of them took themselves as seriously as this stuck up, emo, 10-year old catering tool. Plus, her name is “Avril.” What the fuck kind of name is “Avril”? God I hate her. But her music’s even worse.

She sings in three notes, has terrible backing, over compression, and profoundly stupid lyrics. And she tries to act rebellious while catering to fucking kids. She takes herself totally seriously. Plus, that fashion is an obvious precursor of the emo movement I despise so much.

Fuck you Avril, I hope your days in hell are spent listening to your own music.


7. Fall Out Boy

Some like Fall Out Boy on this site, or at least think they’re decent. But to me, these guys represent every obnoxious, stuck in your head emo band ever invented. Plus, Pete Wentz is by far the douchiest bass player ever; he may even be the douchiest frontman ever. I don’t know weather I despise Pete Wentz more for his music, or for his procreation with Ashlee Simpson.

Show some fucking respect, Wentz. The only reason you even have a career is because the rest of them take pity on you because of your bipolar disorder. I truly feel sorry for those poor bastards, until I listen to their music.

Onto the music: It sucks. It encompasses everything I despise about Emo. They play perhaps 3 power chords, wear eyeliner, sing obnoxious, nasally vocals, have no guitar solos, and their songs stick in your head like chewing gum under a desk. I hate few more than them, and the emo movement is the great shame of my generation. And have you seen their live videos, fucking hell. No band better exemplifies the shittiness of emo than Fall Out Boy.

6. Smash Mouth

These guys hold a special distinction of being the only band whose album I broke in half with my bare hands. (I don’t recommend it, the CD shatters everywhere, if I wasn’t lucky, those fuckers would have cost me my eyes. Just use a sledgehammer.) They just sold out to unprecedented levels by going from a mediocre surf band in the late 90s to Nickelodeon’s bitch the moment they got the paycheck in the aughts.

They’re “Holiday in My Head” contains a guitar solo so high pitched and techno-ey, it would cause HAL himself to suffer a terminal meltdown. And their cover of “I’m A Believer” is so tone deaf and pussified, it makes The Monkees look like The Beatles in comparison. And they helped write the soundtrack for Kangaroo Jack, which was one of the absolute worst films of the aughts. These guys are so bad, they’re not even good enough to play Bat Mitzvahs.

5. Kevin Federline

I despise the man, and despise even more how he milked a career off of boning Britney Spears. Hell, he’d be higher if he released more albums. But that one fucking album was so bad, that it may be the worst ever written. He’s more of an insult to great rappers like Chuck D or Ice Cube than even Vanilla Ice.

Listening to his music for research is one of the most brutal things I’ve ever been forced to do. For fuck’s sake, his song “Lose Control” starts with him saying the word “hey” for what seems the length of Iron Butterfly’s “In da Gada da Vida,” only replace the artistic merit with farting noises to get the pain equivalent. I’ve never heard rap desecrated this badly in my entire life. I’m 100 percent sure the only person outside of unlucky music critics to purchase the shit pickle of an album that was Playing With Fire was Dick Cheney for Guantanamo related purposes, and even then, I’m sure he deemed it too cruel to inflict on even the most brutal terrorists.

The only good thing I can say about this waste of molecules is that everyone hates his worthless guts, and no one bought his shitty album. Unfortunately, for everyone after him, that’s not the case.

4. Aaron Carter

Wow, I thought K-Fed back there was the lowest form of human to use celebrity connections to get a gig. I was dead wrong. Thanks to being the less talented brother of talentless hack of the Backstreet Boys Nick Carter, Aaron managed to build a career out of catering to brain-dead kids too fucking stupid to change the channel when his music videos came on.

He actually managed to be worse than his brother. Songs such as “Leave it to Me” and “How I Beat Shaq” are Jonas Brothers’ bad. Even looking at his picture makes me physically cringe like no one else on this list.

The worst part about Aaron Carter is that his single “Aaron’s Party (Come and Get It)” made him the youngest male Top 40 entry in our nation’s history. Even the fact that that was his only Top 40 single is barely encouraging news when you consider that his greatest hits album not only exists, but is entitled Aaron Carter’s Most Requested Hits. No one has or could put it better than Cracked’s Adam Brown:

“Look at the album cover; even he looks a bit surprised. Most requested hits? Requested by who? This implies that there were studies done, numbers crunched and songs eliminated because, compared to “My Shorty,” they just couldn’t justify including them due to their less than impressive request history. We call bullshit. We want to see the numbers. A Freedom of Information Act request is pending.”

I wish I wrote that myself.

3. Miley Cyrus/Hanna Montana

Jesus Christ, someone used their celebrity connections in an even lower way than Aaron fucking Carter! Born to Billy Ray Cyrus, whose “Achy Breaky Heart” alone already puts him lower than even Aaron Carter, that lineage should have made it so Miley Cyrus would be banned for life for coming within miles of a music producer. Billy Ray somehow got it so his even less talented daughter got a career. And today, she put out two albums, movies, $25 million earned a year, and even a fucking T.V. show.

She’s had an album released as both herself and Hanna Montana, and unlike Carter, both albums debuted at number one on the Billboard 100! In America, that gives her an honor held by Michael Jackson, Metallica, The Beatles, and even Pink Floyd! How could we allow that to happen? Can little girls really be allowed to have that much spending power? I want any parent who reads this to eliminate the allowance of any child they have if they use it to buy a Miley Cyrus album, and then send them to military school, and encourage them to spend money on wiser things, like cigarettes or crank.

But the worst part is, if those topless photos are any indication, she’s trying to capitalize on her non-existent sex appeal. She wants to be the next Britney Spears. Well I’m not about to let this woman cover “Satisfaction”! We must destroy Cyrus, and send her to the Britney route of having her head shaved, and being knocked up by Kevin Federline.


2. The Jonas Brothers

It happened again! Starting off in the dying, tragic genre that is Christian music, The Jonases were recruited by Disney to be on “Hanna Montana” and these three virgin ring douche bags now have the whole world under their thumbs. They released three albums, two of which are Billboard 100 double platinum albums. They have a 3D concert movie, and are going to be in another movie made by those assholes the Farrelly’s called Walter the Farting Dog. And, if the above data is any indication, their next album will probably be another double platinum album.

It would be better if they weren’t everywhere. Back in the 60s, bands like them existed (The Archies, The New Vaudeville Band), but they weren’t taken seriously as rockers, and they didn’t go after it. But these guys are dead serious. They have millions of dollars, T.V. interviews, and are on the cover of Rolling Stone (Apparently, that used to be worth something). They expect to be treated like an actual band, when in reality, they’re a group of lucky studio musicians who, thanks to radio and T.V. being controlled by four companies, have all the clout of an actual band put together by actual musicians.

Their music is terrible. The vocals are nasally and whiny, the music is amateurish, and they’re all even uglier than the current members of The Rolling Stones. Only they can’t match their lack of looks with musicianship. God I despise them.

We have to stop it, fellow Pajibans! We have to get the FCC to break up these corporate monopolies, and replace these radio robots with real fucking DJ’s. Thanks to those assholes, little girls are given the same musical voice as people with actual taste in music. I demand that the trustbusters do their job again!

1. Nickelback

The words “bland,” “crass,” “tasteless,” and “shitballs retarded” get thrown around Pajiba like a $5 whore, but no one fits these definitions better than motherfucking Nickelback. They possess no musical ability, hammer notes that don’t go together, taint the name of grunge, and Chad Kroeger sings like he has a railroad spike lodged in his brain.

But the worst part about Nickelback is not the douchiness of frontman, and presumably a castoff of amoebic dysentery from Kurt Cobain, Chad Kroeger, or the fact that they’ve sold 15 million records in the U.S. alone, or their Rolling Stone cover, or their endless radio airplay. The worst part about Nickelback is that they’re an actual band. A studio didn’t hire them; they had no famous connections, and lived in Buttfuck, Nowhere, Canada, yet they managed to work their way up to one of the biggest bands in the world.

No one can explain their success, and everyone knows they suck, so why do they have everything? If I could explain that, The Jonas Brothers would top this guide. I can’t explain it. They must be a symptom of our culture’s downfall. A culture that has so little respect for music that they make these douche bags number one.


We’re all fucked, everyone. I hope you enjoy knowing it.

George is an angry, jaded, high schooler who is ashamed of his own generation because of these bands. He hopes he’ll have some good bands in the next decade. At least the past had good stuff, and maybe the present if you look beneath the surface.

Dedicated to fellow lover of rock TK, and his family. We’re all here for you.


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Comments

Nickelback are the new Bon Jovi.

Smash Mouth actually wrote one good sond: Walking on the sun. A typical one-hit wonder in terms of quality.

And yes, everything the Black Eyed Peas released with this thing called Fergie is utter shit. They made decent music before. There is some kind of lesson here, but I can't lay my finger on it.

Posted by: FabMax at June 2, 2009 11:58 AM

Quick note: Avril is the french spelling of April. So, I guess it would be a french name. (Francophones feel free to correct me if I'm wrong).

Posted by: admin at June 2, 2009 11:59 AM

Can't Fergie be considered as an individual? Because her suckiness is bigger than that of the Black Eyed Peas.

Posted by: Sofía at June 2, 2009 12:08 PM

Avril = April in French.

As in "Avril 14th" by Aphex Twins

Posted by: weijiaofdeath at June 2, 2009 12:08 PM

Oh, honey. I know you're young, but things like this:

If only girls like this would just stick the Anna Nicole Smith route and pose naked in magazines and on the Internet while never releasing an album, the world would be a much better place.

Make me want to take you aside and have a nice long talk with you about how women get to have their own agency and aren't just there as masturbation fodder for high schoolers. I understand you don't like her music, but that doesn't mean she needs to shut up and get naked to be worthwhile. Your rage should be directed at the record company who picked her up and the people who made "I Kissed a Girl" a Billboard top 25 hit of 2008. She'd be fine with a better songwriting team.

Posted by: Genny (also Rusty) at June 2, 2009 12:08 PM

Meh.

Easy targets and underwhelming analysis.

Posted by: Mohaski at June 2, 2009 12:09 PM

While I by no means listen to Nickelback, putting them on this list as worse than sMiley Cyrus AND the Jonas Brothers is a low blow. At least these guys worked to get their albums sold.

Posted by: io at June 2, 2009 12:10 PM

Smash Mouth came to prominence in the 90's (Walkin' On the Sun was a hit in 1997).

I could argue that BEP also shouldn't be on this list based on your decade cutoff - they released their first album in 1998 and it included the single "Joints & Jams," but they didn't really become super popular until they added Fergie to the mix. And then they started to suck.

Posted by: Melissa at June 2, 2009 12:11 PM

The Pussy-cat Dolls are far worse than some of the people on this list. Their music is friggin obnoxious. Plus only one of them actually sings, the rest of them are just backup dancers. Why do you need backup dancers in a group? I saw them performing live and they were prancing around with microphones that they didn't even use. It looked completely ridiculous.

Posted by: Ryan at June 2, 2009 12:11 PM

I know he's bad but K-Fed is the only one on this list I like because he's the only one that makes me laugh. That Popozao video is priceless!

Posted by: Travis at June 2, 2009 12:13 PM

No one can explain their success, and everyone knows they suck, so why do they have everything?

Yeah...my girlfriend (who has otherwise decent, albeit a little shoegazey taste in music [not in terms of actual "shoegaze" music but that singer/songwriter stuff that empathetic types love]) absolutely loves Nickelback. She even performed one of their songs once for drag (and I still dated her after that, which I have told her multiple times is a miracle).

I've tried but I just can't convince her otherwise, and we've had quite a few arguments about it believe me. One of their shitty songs was playing during the NHL Playoffs and I complained, naturally as anyone would, and she retorted that obviously quite a few people liked them since they sold 15 million albums. Grrr. This is why I'm a borderline sociopath.

Posted by: Annie_Reckson at June 2, 2009 12:13 PM

Genny, you are my hero.

George, while I appreciate the level of vitriol in this review (it managed to wake me up), for someone who hates emo so much your mini-bio sounds rather -- dare I say it -- emo.

Given the range of music on this list, I would love to see a list of which bands, in your opinion, are the best of the aughts.

Posted by: Donut Plains at June 2, 2009 12:16 PM

I'm embarassed to do this, but I'm going to have to call you out on Fall Out Boy. You can't blame them for proving that emo-y pop-punk is commercially viable; it's not there fault that little girls are stupid and will buy whatever shitty 'band' came out after FOB's first big hit. And they actually have some pretty catchy hooks and aren't totally retarded musicians...


And since I just blew all my credibility by defending motherfucking Pete Wentz, I'm gonna go ahead and say this: I fucking love Miley Cyrus's new single. It's cheesy, hokey, and ridiculous, but damnit if I don't belt that shit out at the top of my lungs when I'm sitting in traffic on I-95.

Posted by: Marra at June 2, 2009 12:16 PM

Funny story: A friend of mine works at a local K-Mart, and he was there when the K-Fed CD first came out, back in 2006. They only ever got ONE (1) copy of the damn thing. That copy is still on the shelves to this very day, along with tons of Ashlee Simpson's "Bittersweet World". Clearly, K-Mart is where music goes to die.

Posted by: Doctor Controversy at June 2, 2009 12:17 PM

Miley Cyrus bugs the shit out of me and I don't believe I have ever even heard a song by the Jonas Brothers, BUT... aren't they targeting like, 9-11 year olds? Did you really expect them to be edgy?

Posted by: courtney at June 2, 2009 12:24 PM

Is it not too early to call Obama the worst president ever? Oh, sorry I am sure that you meant someone else but I do have him as the worst of the teens, going away.

As for the music, being a 40-year old man who really enjoyed music growing up, I have probably bought 10 albums in the last nine years, two of those being Christmas albums. 3 others were from established artists that made their names in the 80s (Fish and Queensryche).

BTW George, print out your review and save it, then check in 20 years to see if your political opinion is correct, you maybe surprised. Of course you may have to do it in a different country because I think we will be owned by the world by 2017.

Posted by: richmac at June 2, 2009 12:24 PM

I think you can just lump any artist that is a Radio Disney staple automatically under "Suck." Jesse McCartney, Bowling For Soup, Any Band with the Number "5" in its Name, Hilary Duff...yeah, they're all annoying as hell and will be remembered in the same vein as the goddamn motherfucking Cha Cha Slide and Hamster Dance.

But I think you made a serious error by not including Kid Rock OR Rascal Flatts, or the big barrel of Predigested Manufactured Suck that falls under the category of "American Idol 'Artists'".

Posted by: Wednesday at June 2, 2009 12:28 PM

I'm with you, Mohaski. Of course the Jonas Brothers and Miley Cyrus suck—They're bands for children. Do you watch Disney channel expecting great television? It's they're for baby sitters to use to distract tweens.

The more sinister bands are the ones that are actually supposed to be cool, like the Walkmen, the Teenagers or Vampire Weekend. Everyone knows Kevin Federline's not talented—why not go after Arcade Fire? They suck and they're trying.

Posted by: Toastgod at June 2, 2009 12:28 PM

Also, and this is a stupid objection, but with the exception of BEP, FOB, and Nickelback, all the artists on this list aren't actually musicians. Their sole purpose is to make money for record companys and various other commercial entities. Not that there's anything specifically wrong with that - tweens have to do something with their allowance, and it's this or crack - but I feel that including bands and artists that don't write their own music and don't sing at their own concerts is sort of cheating. Why not compile a list of bands that are actually trying, and still suck? Like All American Rejects, or Ja Rule (remember that guy?), or Josh Groban?

Posted by: Marra at June 2, 2009 12:30 PM

No Kanye? Bad as Nickleback may be, I don't recall them trying to convince kids that reading isn't cool.

Posted by: Bd at June 2, 2009 12:31 PM

Did you automatically disqualify anyone who competed in a reality show, George? Because there are a few gaping holes such as Danity Kane, Daughtry, and Jordin Sparks.
Also, Fall Out Boy is definitely out of place on this list. They aren't great by any stretch of the imagination, but they are decent. Putting them on the list over the abomination that is the Pussycat Dolls? Come on!

Posted by: battgirl at June 2, 2009 12:32 PM

I agree on all of the selections, but I very much dispute your overall point about this decade. Some of the best albums of all time have come out of the last ten years! Radiohead continues to make masterpiece after masterpiece, Jack White has transformed the way young people think about classic rock, bands like Arcade Fire and Bright Eyes found album chart success without compromising their artistic integrity, independent music rose to prominence and changed the landscape of music through experimentation and financial savvy. So many great acts released music in this decade. And I think rock is better now than it's been since the '70s. It has variety, it has class, but most of all it has SUBSTANCE.

I agree that most popular music these days is crap, but with the internet, satellite radio, and sites like Pandora, finding great new artists has never been easier. Plus, blog sites (like ours!) give regular consumers a critical voice they never really had before to tell people what's right and wrong with the music industry. Eventually, if they are going to survive, the labels are going to have to listen to the people they're selling to, and if they finally do, the potential is there for a complete musical revolution. And just look at the year we've had so far; it seems like every other week, there's another potential Album of the Year on the shelves.

I understand cynicism, and encourage it when it comes to critiquing the entertainment business in general, but you can't lump everything into a box and say it's all crap without compromising yourself. Basically, what I'm saying is, look on the bright side! At least we're not living in the 80s!

Posted by: ChristianH at June 2, 2009 12:32 PM

Others already voiced my thoughts, except one.

The only good thing to ever come from Federline:

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=750343

Posted by: Vermillion at June 2, 2009 12:34 PM

Annualcreditreport.com runs the same service, but without having to pay after the trial period.

I just have to point out that, in actuality, everyone is entitled to one free report from each of the three credit bureaus per calendar year (Experian... and the other two I can't remember). So you don't actually have to go through any of these sites, but can go to the bureaus themselves. And if you time it right, that's three full reports a year, which is the ideal way to keep track of your credit.

Yes, my mother works for a bank. Ooh, I should have her pull my beacon score sometime soon.

OK, now I'll go read the rest.

Posted by: lizzieborden at June 2, 2009 12:36 PM

ALso, wouldn't wishing Britney's fate on Miley Cyrus just lead to ANOTHER Federline? Not to mention a potential comeback for her? How does that help, really?

Posted by: Vermillion at June 2, 2009 12:37 PM

Soem pretty easy targets George. I appreciate the rageyness but it seems to be uppity for the sake of being uppity.

Also, Miley Cyrus' music is far superior to her TV show. I accidentally watched five minutes of it last week and had to sterilize my eyes and ears with a blowtorch.

Posted by: admin at June 2, 2009 12:37 PM

Please don't let this kid write for Pajiba anymore. I'm not cutting him slack because of his age. I've had too many students who were practically reincarnations of Lester Bangs. They lived, breathed and KNEW music, old and new. They offered actual insight.

George needs to learn that being a foul-mouthed, semi-snarky asshole does not disguise the fact that he doesn't know much about music.

Posted by: superEdna at June 2, 2009 12:38 PM

i would disqualify miley cyrus and the jonas brothers due to the fact that they are products, not musicians. also, kfed should be cut because technically he was a "celebrity" before he decided to record that album.

Posted by: bree at June 2, 2009 12:38 PM

George, thank you so very much for that. And seriously, fuck Nickelback. That pack of douchenozzles really needs to stop offending my earholes with their whiny, crap-ass music. And Chad Kroeger? I'm sorry you look like a horse, got no poon in high school and therefore hate women, but fuck you with the misogynistic bullshit. You like my pants around my feet? I like my foot up your ass.

Posted by: Katers at June 2, 2009 12:39 PM

Whoops, here is the actual vid I was trying to get:

http://www.gkko.com/videos/5555/James_lipton_doing_popozao.htm

Posted by: Vermillion at June 2, 2009 12:43 PM

As much as I dislike you, George, I must say this was better than your article on Star Wars, if not due to content than simply grammatically. I do worry about the fact that you insulted Fallout Boy and even the Backstreet Boys. I'm wondering if you like quality pop music at all.
Pop doesn't have to be a bad word. Try Belle and Sebastian. It's poppy and fun and it's still great music.

Posted by: Optimus Rhyme at June 2, 2009 12:44 PM

Must . . . fight . . . urge . . . to . . . argue . . . politics . . .

Really, how did Linkin Park and Creed escape this list? Or the GS Boys and Soulja Boy?

Posted by: Tracer Bullet at June 2, 2009 12:46 PM

I'll be honest, seeing as I'm twice as old and the wrong gender of the target demographic for most of these bands, I hadn't heard most of the music on here. I decided to have an open mind and play all the videos posted. I couldn't listen to a full minute of any of them. These bands are the shit stains on the worn out tighty whities of corporate music terminator machine. If I ever meet any of them in a dark alley, I will gladly beat them to death with a sack full of kittens.

Thank you, and have a wonderful day.

Posted by: Hudson at June 2, 2009 12:48 PM

And listen to Genny, talk like that is the reason you're not getting laid.
I also had to second TB's addition of Soulja Boy. He's actually single handedly making radio rap worse. Some thought it was an impossible feat.

Posted by: Optimus Rhyme at June 2, 2009 12:51 PM

Honestly, I was hoping there would be a separate category for Fergie doing her solo stuff. She's bad enough she should be on here twice.

Posted by: Jeff at June 2, 2009 12:56 PM

Ha! Wow, ok, I get it, you don't like EMO.

I despise RAP.

I think it's a generational thing. And while this generation gave us such classics as Miley Cyrus and the Jonas Brothers, each generation has had it's own group of pre-fab "musicians" foisted upon us and shoved down our throats, carried on a wave of prepubescent girls.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to revisit my Deep Purple collection.

Posted by: UncleJR at June 2, 2009 1:00 PM

Jesus, George... I think I... I think I have the slightest tingle in my groin after reading that. You, my good man, have raised the bar. Brilliant. And you're in high school? Well, should you ever be in the upper Midwest, I guarangoddamtee you a case of beer, a car rental, and a... Are you eighteen? Do you smoke? Do you want to learn? I can get you into a few bars. Fake ID? Let me know...

Read the Playboy interview with Chad Kroeger... I felt IQ points leaving my body with every sentence... Also? Don't sweat the suck - everyone you've listed will be a Trivial Pursuit question within five years. Anyone remember Sisqo? Of course not. Music almost always sucks for a bit before something grand happens...


Posted by: Skitz at June 2, 2009 1:02 PM

Two points of disagreement Georgie boy:

1. The FreeCredreport guys rock, and they rock hard.

2. Prostitot and all around degenerate Miley Cyrus should be #1.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at June 2, 2009 1:02 PM

Psst, it's a federal constitutional republic , not a democracy...

Posted by: Eep at June 2, 2009 1:02 PM

I weep for the future.

Posted by: vikky at June 2, 2009 1:03 PM

Crappy music of the aughts:

1-3
Katy Perry, Pussycat Dolls and Britney Spears for releasing garbage aimed at children, but not appropriate for.
4
Eminem, for losing relevance and becoming what he made fun of.
5
Fred Durst, he existed in this era so that counts.
6-9
Fallout Boy, Soulja Boy, Nickleback, and Kanye for general crapiness I'm subjected to on the radio because my Ipod broke.
10
Whoever made that I love college song.

Posted by: J Stride at June 2, 2009 1:03 PM

I second not giving George anymore space. He's a kid who thinks he knows more than other kids his age, as if he's somehow special. He's not, he's just suffering from an advanced level of pretentiousness that should not come out until he's at least 25 and knows a little bit about the world. Anyone who calls out Nickelback and Miley Cyrus aren't paying enough attention to the world beyond the shit on MTV, and that does not qualify one to comment on the current state of music as if they are somehow educated on the subject.

ChristianH has it right. The aughts have been an exceptional time for music if you know how to look - and anyone lecturing me on the sorry state of the music world should at least bother to do some research. Turn off your radio, George and step away from MTV. Discover Pandora, last.fm, eMusic, and the many exceptional music blogs out there, and then come back in ten years when you have a clue.

Posted by: pigwidgeon at June 2, 2009 1:05 PM

It's not baaaad, and you're probably fairly right. But, as someone who is familiar with popular music because I have young siblings, listen to the radio, and am not in a coma, it's fairly jarring when one finds a factual mistake and it sort of damages the credibility of the article. Especially the 'What the fuck kind of name is “Avril”?' I know we all aren't all Canadian and have not had the "benefit" of upwards of 10 years of lukewarm french instruction, but it might have been worth it to google, you know?

Can I make a case for the Black Eyed Peas? I adore them. (That's not really a case, is it? Hm. Let me try again.) I personally believe the apex of popular music of the past century was 1970's funk, and the fact that the Peas were out to resurrect it was A-ok by me. George, here is where some research would have been excellent. You would have discovered, in short order, that "My Humps" is their "worst" song, in that it was written in 5 minutes. It's consciously shittacular. It's nigh genius. Their other singles - which, seriously, as a musical type, how can you not have heard them? Where do you live? - are pretty jammin'.

Finally, I'm no prude, I understand the power of a well-placed F-bomb. But the word "fuck" shows up 21 times in your article. My nonna would think you were wicked edgy.

Posted by: Ling at June 2, 2009 1:08 PM

I...I just feel like every era has its horrible bands (typically pop and enjoyed by young folk who have yet to develop a sophisticated taste in music--yes I understand the Beatles could fall into this definition and alter it, but this is why stereotypical statements don't work) and that to imply the aughts was the beginning of the downfall of musickind is a little ridiculous.

Also, just because you dislike emo doesn't mean it's an illegitimate music style. There's good and bad to be found in it, as well.

Posted by: Lindsay at June 2, 2009 1:09 PM

What's even worse about Nickelback is that they spawned Theory of a Deaman. They sound just like Nickelback, except worse. They just as soon combine their suck into one band, Theory of a Nickelback.

Posted by: RAT at June 2, 2009 1:11 PM

I blame the crappy pop music of the late 90's for Nickelback's success.

The rise of pop tarts, boy bands, etc meant that anything remotely rock-like was not being played on radio or television. By the time bands like Nickelback starting getting airplay it was a guitar based breath of fresh air.

Little did we know every single one of their songs would be the same except with a different scenario for banging a drunk chick.

That's not to say there wasn't any good music, just talking about the Top 40

Also, is it wrong that I think Hot-n-Cold by Katy Perry is catchy?

Posted by: Orser at June 2, 2009 1:12 PM

Pardon me, but I think Ashlee Simpson is a HUGE omission and needs to be on this list. Especially over the ones who peaked in the 90s. Not because they suck any less, but b/c they violate the rule you set up.
"Artists" like Ashlee Simpson ruin it for anyone who has actual talent. I don't care how many of you defend her song-writing, etc, that girl can't carry a tune to save her life. Plus her songs SUCK.
Soulja Boy would be a stunning addition to this list; I must agree with the others who said that.
Oh, and you can throw in all the Disney-bots who released their first albums post 2000.

Posted by: Whorish Mouth at June 2, 2009 1:21 PM

I agree that Fergie was the downfall of the BEP, and they shouldn't be up there. I would substitute them w/the Pussycat Dolls.

I like Smash Mouth. To me, it was just fun trippy music to remember the late 90's. I never took them seriously.

I would also add Kelly Clarkson to the list. Her voice isn't the worst, but it's a testament to the "tastes" of the American public to vote for her. The moment she won, I knew American Idol was bullshit and never watched it again.

Posted by: Brie at June 2, 2009 1:28 PM

Though music has suffered in this decade it is ridicolous to say it has died. Great music is always being produced. It just doesn't get played on mainstream radio and MTV, but who cares about mainstream radio and MTV. I've listened to so much great music in this decade. Rock n Roll is alive and kicking and who believes otherwise simply sisn't into the scene. There are many bands pushing the envelope like Opeth, The Mars Volta and Porcupine Tree just to name a few. Audioslave, Velvet Revolver and Wolfmother are balls to the wall rock n roll. The list is endless and I could mention loads of other bands. It was also great to see half Queen touring with the incredible Paul Rodgers. Eliminating bands who were popular before the aughts doesn't make sense. Some bands who were popular released their strongest work in ages in the aughts, for example Iron Maiden (which by the way, can always sell out an arena in minutes and are always attracting new fans) There are so many great records being released every month, great records being reissued every month, great bands touring the globe, internet radio stations which play the music you like, youtube which is like your personal MTV, technology which gives new life to music because it produces such a crisp sound... for those who want to, there's great music to be enjoyed all the time, and more than you can keep up with or afford so I deny all your claims about the death of music or some such shit.

P.S Nickelback aren't that bad despite what everyone says. They know how to play their instruments, give a good live show and produce music which is catchy, often fun and the numbers on their records, rather than the singles are far rockier.

Posted by: barf at June 2, 2009 1:32 PM

"The new millennium has not been a good decade for music."

I have to disagree. I think typical top 40 is dismal, but the same can be said for just about any recent decade. Do some research, maybe?

I need to go on record saying that I'm not a fan of this post.

I don't want to discourage George from continuing writing, but I just don't feel like it fits the usual voice or content 'round these parts. You are obviously intelligent for your age (and are certainly bitchy), but these are such easy targets. Who on this site is a typical fan of any of these "musicians"? Or at least a big enough fan that it might cause discussion or even a little surprise.

Seems like this article should be a link in the Pajiba Love section, the Websters site, or Celebrity tidbit posts I avoid around here. I don't come 'round for poptarts or gossip and I get discouraged at times that there seems to be more and more of it seeping in to the movie and music sections.

I guess my point is that while the article is written pretty well, George's articles just don't turn my crank the way most of the critics' work around here does. And it seems like there's more discussion and opposition about the merit of the article as a whole than to the opinions stated. May be time to move on...

Posted by: ernesto at June 2, 2009 1:44 PM

Why George is wrong about everything:

10.) The Black Eyed Peas.

Yes, Fergie is annoying. Yes, will.i.am is sanctimonious. Yes, "My Humps" is one of the worst singles ever. So what? Elephunk is one of the better albums of the Aughts, with "Shut Up," "Bebot," "Let's Get Retarded" and "Hey Mama" all being excellent funk/pop songs. You can't be one of the "worst artists of the Aughts" if you have a genuinely good album under your belt.

9.) Katy Perry.

So she's an ex-Christian rocker. So what? So she doesn't write her own songs. So fucking what? (Neither did Frank Sinatra. Is he an artistic failure now?) She's not the second coming of Madonna, but "Hot and Cold" is a genuinely decent little pop song and she's got, what, one album under her belt? Too new to make this list and with only one true aural crime under her belt.

8.) Avril Lavigne.

Two perfectly all right ballads ("Complicated" and "Keep Holding On") make her what she is: an unremarkable artist who got lucky. I know, things would be so much better if the masses really started listening to the Magic Numbers or The Streets as much as they do Avril, but those masses! Darn their middlebrow tastes!

7.) Fall Out Boy.

Fall Out Boy aren't even a mediocre band that got lucky; they're actually pretty decent. George's venom is directed at the fact that Pete Wentz writes simple straightforward songs and is a bit of a cock. Again: so fucking what? Is the music bad? Ear-gratingly offensive? No, it isn't. Some of Fall Out Boy's stuff is even downright good. Just because they're not original doesn't mean they suck. Not everybody has to be Radiohead. Sometimes you just want a good guitar hook.

6.) Smashmouth.

Their most annoying single ("All Star") was released in friggin' 1999. Yes, they suck, but their Aughts output is negligible and thus they should not qualify on the same basis that Creed do not; they are suck from the 90s.

5.) Kevin Federline.

Federline is one of those jokes wannabe music critics take too seriously. Federline is a nothing. He was a nothing the moment he tried to have a career and he's a nothing now. That he sucks is of no consequence because he is nothing more than a punchline. To truly blow ass, a musician has to be not only bad but extremely prominent.

4.) Aaron Carter.

See Smashmouth and Federline. Combine those two reasons. When you say "this guy is one of the worst of the Aughts" and I say "...oh yeah, THAT guy," he's not one of the worst. Bad, true bad, Billy Joel level bad - it sticks in your brain, a plague from which ye ne'er shall escape.

3.) Miley Cyrus.

Perfectly inoffensive soulless teenpop, just like has always existed since the dawn of teenpop. Just because you hate what she represents doesn't make her music bad. I will never listen to a Miley Cyrus song and shudder - it is too bland and meaningless for me to shudder. She's the aural equivalent of wallpaper. Why would I hate wallpaper?

2.) The Jonas Brothers.

See Miley Cyrus, but add a little more competence. They're honestly pretty decent musicians; I don't like their music, but, eh.

1.) Nickelback.

Okay, here I have to shift gears, because Nickelback is exactly what the rest of your list should have been like: a big, successful, influential band that are total dogshit and who write songs (or more accurately write one song over and over again, and not in the good way like ZZ Top did) that stick in your fucking brain.

See, George, this is why you're not a music critic yet and won't be unless you shape up: for you it's not about the actual music, but the image behind the music. Real critics like songs no matter who writes them so long as they're fucking good songs. With the exception of Nickelback, the rest of your list is either your own personal demons (did emo kids beat you up at some point or something?) or the standard "corporations ruin everything" rant. Hey, guess what: corporations are responsible for Justin Timberlake too, you know. Sometimes they do give you something truly great.

A more honest list would have included the neverending harpy known as Mariah Carey, the noxious Natasha Bedingfield, the one-trick pony that is T-Pain. It might have featured the horrific Mims, the dreadful American Idol success stories like Daughtry or Carrie Underwood (Kelly Clarkson is actually very good, and the rest too inconsequential to care about), the bland attack of Maroon 5 or the soulless and actually-not-any-good-at-all Pussycat Dolls or Simpson sisters. And it would feature James fucking Blunt, one of the greatest musical criminals in history.

That's how you do this shit, man.

Posted by: mightygodking at June 2, 2009 1:49 PM

Silly boy. Buttfuck, Nowhere, Canada is a lovely place. You should come visit sometime. It's close to GetYourHeadOutOfYourAssWithTheStereotypicalCanadianInsults, Somewhere, Canada.

Posted by: Janey at June 2, 2009 1:50 PM

You know I wouldn't have the balls to put up an opinion piece of any kind on this website so I am gonna give a few props to the kid here, most of the time I won't even comment for worry of the possible much-wittier-than-me comebacks. Having said that I would say that this list seems like a throwaway. It isn't wrong enough to inspire me to jump up and disagree and it isn't right enough for me to even snort softly on my keyboard in agreement, it's just sort of landing with a boring thud. I think maybe there needed to be a few more guidelines and a few more rules to hone the scope of what he was trying to do.

Also, I know that by saying this I am going to sound reeeeeaally old but here goes -- every teenager in the world thinks they have the patent on angst and being jaded but I'm sorry kiddo, we all felt that way, we all thought we were original doing it and for the most part we all grew out of it. You don't need to crank the volume quite so high on the vitriol to get your point across and it certainly doesn't make you sound as wise as you think/hope it does.

Posted by: Jilly at June 2, 2009 1:57 PM

2.) The Jonas Brothers.

See Miley Cyrus, but add a little more competence. They're honestly pretty decent musicians; I don't like their music, but, eh.

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Anybody that writes THAT has any business criticizing an honest reviewer.

I'll say this for you you've got some balls, and gall I'll give you that.

And I find it more than a little annoying how everyone bases their criticism of George's reviews on his youth. His reviews are up up to par for this site and come from a genuine place.


My two cents.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at June 2, 2009 2:04 PM

What mightygodking said, only I still want Natasha Bedingfield to have my babies.

She brought it up first.

And BEP saved face with Boom Boom Pow, giving Timbaland and Armand Van Helden a run for their money.

Posted by: Adere at June 2, 2009 2:06 PM

george, you've got to find a way to modulate that hyperbolic anger. it isn't effective if it's cranked all the way up in every sentence, esp. when shooting fish in a barrel.

Posted by: icecreammang at June 2, 2009 2:12 PM

Fine, I'll detract my criticism of his age, and just flat out state that I don't think his voice fits Pajiba. The topics are too milquetoast and the language is, well, immature compared to the rest of the critics here.

I don't deny he's brave for posting, and I don't have any beef with his writing. I just have a problem with his writing to date for this site. So, I suppose my complaint isn't with George it's with the editors.

Posted by: ernesto at June 2, 2009 2:15 PM

I can't deny the awfulness of the people you've selected, but they're all pretty easy targets. This is a good topic, but I can't help but think of how good an article this could be if it were written by someone else. Right now, it's just painful to read.

Posted by: jM at June 2, 2009 2:18 PM

I forgot one: Gwen Stefani. Went from being a in a great ska group to shitty pop sellout. I cringe whenever I hear Spiderwebs, knowing what used to be.

If I never hear "Hollaback Girl", "Rich Girl," or "The Sweet Escape" again it will be too soon.

Posted by: Brie at June 2, 2009 2:19 PM

Awww, Barbadoslim said I've got gall!

Look, the Jonas Brothers, from any basic musical perspective, aren't bad at what they do. They sing and play their instruments competently. Their songs are, by and large, inoffensive fluff, forgettable and basic. A song like "Paranoid" or "Burnin' Up" isn't good and it isn't bad - it's just there. Occasionally they cut a track that's a little bit catchy or clever ("Lovebug" comes to mind) but these are few and far between, as are the truly bad songs they release (the grating "S.O.S.").

When people bitch about the Jonas Brothers, it's inevitably never about the music - precisely because it's so pointedly inoffensive. Instead, it's how they're corporate creations or how the purity rings are creepy or the foam at the concerts is creepier. That's all valid, but it's not a complaint about their music so much as it's about their place in pop culture and what that means.

Posted by: mightygodking at June 2, 2009 2:22 PM

I agree with the idea running counter to this article that there has been, and there always will be, awful, prefab shitty music. It wasn't really until Dylan that the idea of the singer/songwriter came to prominence. And even after that, a lot of s/s-ers maybe shouldn't have been indulged.

There are spinoffs and ripoffs. I personally believe Eddy Vedder has a lot to answer for in his particular style of singing, that has led directly to Chad "Kroaker". The "music industry" is really a bloated Vampire Hippopotamus manufacturing consensus, not fostering talent.

The 60's and 70's (the good stuff - not the disco) were brilliant because Genius was given license to be Genius. And it sold records. Sure it led to its own bloated wretched excess, but for a while there it was incredible.

But there is always an undercurrent of "good". The shit floats to the surface. The strong current is underneath. Take a deep breath and swim a little deeper.

/rant

And to close: my word of the day is "Prostitot" Thanks BSlim!

Posted by: Odnon at June 2, 2009 2:23 PM

Seether recently covered George Michael's "Careless Whisper". You know it as the "I'm never gonna dance again" song. I know it as the song "I hated it in the 80's and I damn near loathe it now." It is an abomination and I respectfully submit it for the top position. Check it out on Itunes if you don't believe me.

Not bad, George, but as others have points out these were some damn easy targets. I'd love to see you take on Arcade Fire, Decemberists, and the other self important musical patron saints of this website and see what would happen. Attacking Jonas Brothers and Miley Cyrus doesn't mean you are edgy, it just means you don't take your musical direction from EW.

Posted by: TylerDFC at June 2, 2009 2:29 PM

I have to agree with Christian, some really great music has been released in the aughts: The Decemberists, Modest Mouse, and Death Cab for Cutie have been able to show that you can go on a major label and still release fantastic albums (I haven't heard the Decemberists' new album yet! Sadly...), Franz Ferdinand and Bloc Party are still releasing great albums, the Arts & Crafts label and the Asthmatic Kitty label consistently sign and release awesome artists, hell, even REM released an amazing album this decade. Oh, and Athens (Georgia, not Greece) is once again kicking ass thanks to Of Montreal, Neutral Milk Hotel, and Olivia Tremor Control, not to mention others.

Not to mention my favorite album of the decade: Sufjan Steven's Come On Feel The Illinoise!

The aughts haven't been different than any other decade really, I think people forget that the 50's and 60's had a lot of shitty music that existed alongside the really amazing stuff.

Posted by: Annie_Reckson at June 2, 2009 2:44 PM

Putting K Fed on the list is a copout. However, I'm in total agreement with the inclusion of the amazingly, unbelievably-irritating Black-Eyed Peas (the dash goes there, morons, your band name contains a compound modifier)

Posted by: boogs at June 2, 2009 2:53 PM

George:
While your vitriolic attack on these artists is mostly well-placed, let me point out two things.
First, I agree with many of the comments stating that you were shooting fish in a barrel.
Next (and more importantly) are the quotes.
"If only girls like this would just stick the Anna Nicole Smith route and pose naked in magazines and on the Internet while never releasing an album, the world would be a much better place."
"We must destroy Cyrus, and send her to the Britney route of having her head shaved, and being knocked up by Kevin Federline."
"No Fergie, after this and the meth, I wouldn’t touch you with anything other than a blunt object to your cranium to get you to never sing that fucking song again."
"The words “bland,” “crass,” “tasteless,” and “shitballs retarded” get thrown around Pajiba like a $5 whore..."

You have some talent, young man but the blatant misogyny is extremely off-putting. Sure, you're trying to get a laugh out of your fellow Pajibans but there is a line between snarky and scary and you crossed that line several times.

Just my opinion but, then again, I'm one of those pansy-assed white boys who likes women.

Posted by: Spender at June 2, 2009 2:57 PM

Hey George, you forgot the part where Nickelback is better than Metallica! Fuck you very much!

Posted by: jpguy13 at June 2, 2009 3:11 PM

Hear, hear, Spender and Genny.

George, seriously, I think your input would be better received around here if phrased with a little less nauseating frat-boy attitude. If nothing else, consider what Optimus said--you'll increase your odds of getting laid. What's that old saying? "You catch more flies with honey than with blatant, mean-spirited, sexist put-downs?"

Posted by: meaux at June 2, 2009 3:17 PM

If I were an editor, I would have made the decision about now to give George a somewhat monthly "guest" column, solely because of all the attention his articles draw. Put big shiny ad blocks every 10 comments and enjoy backstroking through my millions.

Posted by: Ling at June 2, 2009 3:18 PM

Also, is it wrong that I think Hot-n-Cold by Katy Perry is catchy?

If it's wrong, Orser, then I don't wanna be right.

Posted by: Melissa at June 2, 2009 3:26 PM

I read Pajiba regularly, and have certainly enjoyed some postings a lot more than others, but this is unequivocally the worst feature I've ever seen on the site.

Posted by: No at June 2, 2009 3:41 PM

The worst part, however, was how much of a waste of potential the aughts were. Come the fuck on, people. America went through two wars, an economic collapse, the absolute worst president you can have and still live in a democracy, the absolute worst vice president ever, unlimited ability to distribute music, and this is the best we could do? Fucking pathetic, the 60s would be ashamed of us.

Maybe you should listen to more music. There's plenty of innovative stuff that has come out in the last decade. If you look in the right places that is. Besides, what the fuck is so great about the 60s anyways?

Posted by: Kamil at June 2, 2009 3:58 PM

i like george.
i like him now and i'm sure to like him when he's 50.
he can be a bit sexist, and so? it's a personality to which i've grown accustomed. 'pus forbid someone judge me on something i wrote when i was in high school (i have BOXES of poetry and musings you'd rather not read).
but the "artists" he's chosen are ones that any young adult might hate, if for no other reason than he's still sorting out his grown-up tastes and he recognizes them for the tripe they are. (did that make sense?)
what i mean is this: if george's style isn't to your liking, great. i wasn't all too thrilled about his phantom menace opinions, but i didn't think he shouldn't contribute anymore and i certainly didn't act like 'well, i'm above this, so i guess it's time to move on' like pajiba has gone into some downward spiral. if you feel this way, again: great, don't get assprints on dustin's new 'sound-ad-free' door. stop by again when the mood to slum hits you again.
(wow, sorry so ranty, but really, that comment made me go all wtf-y)


and on topic, sort of: i'm still buying new music from bands i liked 20 and 30 years ago, even if they've long over-sung themselves (robert smith? morrissey? nina hagen? hell, isn't siouxsie sioux on medicare?) and the fact that some of these 'worst' ditties gets stuck in my head doesn't make me postal. it just makes me susceptible to the power of repetition (most times, i can sing the WHOLE song when i've never heard it beginning to end, because it's everywhere).

plus, alanis's video of 'my humps' STILL cracks me up.

Posted by: gp at June 2, 2009 4:03 PM

Aw George, don't hate on your generation simply because of these bands alone, plenty of great kids in high school listen to music actually worth listening, trust me, there should be some.
This list is very much accurate, every band on it is so painfully terrible that I can't even control my annoyance for them. When I saw Nickelback at number one, I went, "Yes, yes!" Couldn't agree more.

Posted by: Kamikaze Feminist at June 2, 2009 4:20 PM

Add me to the list of those who enjoyed this feature.

And to No: This was the worst feature you've ever read on Pajiba? When we get (multiple) features on the beauty of Ryan Reynolds abs, THIS is the feature you find unequivocably the worst? Brother.

Posted by: jimbob at June 2, 2009 4:31 PM

This is a silly list. The only reason these bands stand out as somehow "representative" of the aughts is that we're still in the aughts. A retrospective of any other era you choose could easily include very similar bands who you don't think or care about because they're simply not played anymore.

But I'll give you slack for lacking the perspective that (usually) comes with wrinkles and chronic constipation.

It's also clear that you think you know a lot more about "music" than you actually do. It's actually fairly easy to write a song that's musically interesting -- what's hard is to write one that's so goddamn catchy you want to sing along even though somewhere inside you know it sucks.

Case in point: "Rockstar" might be musically trivial but for some reason everyone played it and it made Nickelback a shitload of money. Hate it if you like but I admire that kind of talent.

Posted by: Neodiogenes at June 2, 2009 4:52 PM

Did you know the Freecreditreport guy is actually French Canadian, and they dub over his voice with a more "American" accent. Poor guy, for that I don't think he belongs on the list.

Posted by: Agente Provocatrice at June 2, 2009 4:55 PM

The scariest thing about this post is not the misspelled "fair" or "whether", but the apologists for this detritus that passes for music.

Posted by: Recondite at June 2, 2009 5:17 PM

arguements...arguements...arguements....trying to argue about music is like bragging about being the smartest retard.

Waffles make me giggle.

Posted by: PissBoy at June 2, 2009 5:20 PM

I would like to submit Billy Bob Thornton to this list.

Although he would have you believe that he's been playing music since birth, and not just in this decade.

Posted by: boo at June 2, 2009 5:22 PM

AHEM:

ARGUMENTS.

Taste the rainbow; taste the bitchy.

Posted by: boo at June 2, 2009 5:23 PM

I promised that no matter what anyone wrote, I wouldn't comment, (It was every bit as hard as I expected, and worse.) but I have to correct some miscalculations people made.

Sorry Tracer Bullet, but Creed was a 90's band. A lot of shitty 90's bands couldn't make the cut. (Kid Rock, Limp Bizkit, The Backstreet Boyz) I felt if I included them, it would distract from this decade. Although I still hate them with a passion.

Second, I didn't even know Soldja Boy was a real person until recently, and I have failed to see any of his videos for fear of the massive I.Q. loss I would suffer.

Third, I didn't even know Fergie had a solo career. I thought she was an actual member of The Black Eyed Peas.

Fourth, yeah, I cheated with Smash Mouth, but the level they sold out in the new millennium made me so offended that I had to include them.

Fifth, that's it despite temptations. I refuse to go into a rant about how the deregu-lation of how much media a company can own killed radio. But I am sorry for my mispellings in the Phantom review Rhyme, your criticism inspired me to be a lot more gramatticaly correct in my reviews.

Posted by: George at June 2, 2009 5:24 PM

Aww George, I can't stay mad at you after tha... Wait, did you MEAN to spell "grammatically" wrong? *Eye Twitch* Still.. love... ya... big ... guy.

Posted by: Optimus Rhyme at June 2, 2009 5:34 PM

I...mispelled....

(*Bangs head against desk until comatose*)

Posted by: George at June 2, 2009 5:36 PM

Kids like George make me have some hope for the world. We're not completely fucked, guys.

However, I think you missed some pretty offensive people on this list. Fergie should get a separate entry of her own, for example. And the Simpson sisters. And the Pussycat Dolls.

Really, it was an easy article to write, but I think you got it completely right (except that...does Smash Mouth even exist anymore?) and I do admire any high schooler who can string two sentences together in proper order. And then post it all on Pajiba, the bitchiest of places when it comes to music. So, kudos. Nothing spectacular, but I think you're on a good path.

Posted by: figgy at June 2, 2009 5:45 PM

This list is irrelevant. This is not even the stuff music fans listen to. It's the stuff people who listen to the radio for something bland to tap their feet to listen to. This is the stuff many people who would never spend money on a record or gig ticket listen to.

When I go to buy my Classic Rock magazine every month at the bookshop I notice the shelves are heaving with specialist music magazines. Everything from hip-hop to electronic music via classical music and world music. Although I'm not a fan of all those styles I'm sure there's some amazing stuff to discover in there and they all discuss music in the aughts. Obviously you won't get the music you read about in those magazines on the radio but that's what the real music fan who invests in his music listens to. When I see Miley Cyrus on the cover of a magazine, it's not a music magazine but a glossy teen magazine.

I think defining the aughts through its music is harder than previous decades because music is so all over the place. This is not the 70s when everyone was listening to the same bands. That's why the great bands were so successful in those times. Now the music fan can really retire to a very personal music world of one's own with internet rather than radio or t.v and ipods rather than radio. In the aughts (excluding the mainstream and the top 20) music has become a very, very personal thing which is hard to pinpoint or define.

Posted by: barf at June 2, 2009 5:45 PM

George: Why did you respond? To clear up other's miscalculations? You really shouldn't have gone and revealed your own.

"Second, I didn't even know Soldja Boy was a real person until recently, and I have failed to see any of his videos for fear of the massive I.Q. loss I would suffer.

Third, I didn't even know Fergie had a solo career. I thought she was an actual member of The Black Eyed Peas."

Again: Google! Wikipedia! If you're going to write an article, it's expected that you'll have a working knowledge of your subject.

I have read the Cracked article you quoted and loved it too. Now why not take a page out of the Cracked writers' books and RESEARCH? That way, you'll never have to use the phrase "I didn't even know" again, much less twice in one comment.

Posted by: Ling at June 2, 2009 6:07 PM

Awesome, awesome list. You've out Pajiba'd yourself this time.

... is it possible to include Guns N' Roses new album on this??? technically its a new band, sorta.

Posted by: MarcusArilius at June 2, 2009 6:09 PM

I would like to submit Billy Bob Thornton to this list. Although he would have you believe that he's been playing music since birth, and not just in this decade. Posted by: boo

If we believe Billy Bob, he was probably playing while still in the womb....

Posted by: Odnon at June 2, 2009 6:11 PM

I know many will disagree, but why isn't Jason Mraz on this list? He keeps trying to play off the "I am an awkward nerdy sex god" vibe with his stupid hats and folky drivel. It's the album that the average popped collar fratboy keeps on his shelf to make his next apple martini ridden conquest think that he's sensitive.

Posted by: miguel at June 2, 2009 6:36 PM

George has already spent enough time behind the woodshed being pummeled by this mob, so I'm going to go on record as saying that I look forward to his next piece. He's maturing as a writer in front of our very eyes; how cool is that? Granted, he still has a long way to go...but I'm not averse to Dustin's pet project (yet).

The following is for Tracer Bullet (since I have less impulse control than he does):

Is it not too early to call Obama the worst president ever? Oh, sorry I am sure that you meant someone else but I do have him as the worst of the teens, going away.

Posted by: richmac at June 2, 2009 12:24 PM

You and I have sparred before, richmac, so this has a familiar feel to it. Trying to hijack a teenager's post on music with sophomoric political opinions of your own seems beneath even you...well, seemed, before today. That must have been a pretty long commercial break on FNC for you to get that much typing done.

Posted by: Che Grovera at June 2, 2009 6:43 PM

I'd just like to venture that if we were going by amount of shame brought upon their genre, the entire list should be populated by those rappers who write songs about dancing. And Rick Ross.


And you could have gleaned this list from the comments in the MTV movie awards threads and it probably would have been snarkier. I don't care that he's in high school, I was just there, I'm not impressed.

Posted by: Braski at June 2, 2009 6:45 PM

misspellings

Posted by: OneMyrtOverTheCukoo'sNest at June 2, 2009 6:50 PM

So, George, you start off your "I hate Avril" rant by saying you hate her name? Really, dude, that's the best you can do? I suggest that you go back to your MySpace blog until you can express yourself in a more adult manner.

By the way, there is a HUGE difference between being avant-garde and just plain pottymouth. This isn't Deadwood, ya know.

Posted by: Bonnie at June 2, 2009 6:53 PM

"the rise of the Emo movement"

Rites of Spring.
Sunny Day Real Estate.
Fugazi.

That would be all.

Posted by: victoria at June 2, 2009 6:59 PM

Barf's analysis is lovely. If frequently reading barf's writing is habital barfing, we should all be bulimic.

Posted by: OneMyrtOverTheCukoo'sNest at June 2, 2009 7:01 PM

And, dear George, please note that you write misspelled, two s's. Thanks!

Posted by: Bonnie at June 2, 2009 7:05 PM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA why don't YOU go back to Avril's fan page Bonnie.

Go! go and listen Ska8r Boi a couple of thousand more times and think you are all Hot Topic "hard."


bitch please.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at June 2, 2009 7:20 PM

This is a pretty good and comprehensive list. Nickleback, Jonas brothers, and Miley/Hanna deserve to be there. What utter cap they are

Posted by: Robert at June 2, 2009 7:28 PM

Yay, a music review from a high schooler. Getting it from a jaded 20-something is bad enough.

I was a high schooler once, so far be it from me to discourage someone in the free expression of his opinion in the tender years of his youth, but you don't need to tell us that most of this music sucks. Thanks for the FYI, but we all kind of knew this already. Music manufactured for the express purpose of pimping Disney is not very good? You don't say...

If this is a kind of Pajiba troll by the owners/editors of the site, well, bravo. Masterful, kinda. If not... yikes.

Posted by: Slash at June 2, 2009 7:29 PM

I second the commentators who say that these targets are way too easy. Sure, all of these shartists (my fancy new portmanteau: shart+artists) are like ringwraiths that preside over the barren wasteland that is corporate radio, but who the hell turns on the fackin' radio expecting transcendental artistic revelations? At least the last "shitty bands" article included some shockers (would you really rather have the Red Hot Chili Peppers unleash another 2-CD shit barrage than new Frank Black and Sonic Youth albums? Don't answer that).

No, the ones that need to be singled out are bands like the Mars Volta, Arctic Monkeys, etc. who mask a dearth of talent under all the usual counter-cultural accoutrements (ooh! Cricket noises! Suicide-inducing ten minute maraca/guitar debacles ran through thousands of sound effects! Trebly post-punk guitars!) and give the rock underground a bad name.

On a different but not entirely unrelated topic, one of the worst crimes perpetrated against music this decade, IMHO, has been the desecration of the EMO genre tag. I mean, witnessing the downward spiral of it going from signifying the once unimaginable commingling of punk rock and prog rock (Drive Like Jehu, Antioch Arrow, motherfucking *Slint*, Appleseed Cast) to filling up the myspace descriptors of unfathomably shitty and self-involved pop-"punk" bands who're only in it for the tween handjobs (ugh did I just write that?) has been truly heart-breaking. Ok, so the bands that used to be called "emo" despised the label, but still, it's a bit sad to witness the de-evolution of a genre.

Posted by: Pancho Ramone at June 2, 2009 7:35 PM

I liked that NB song when it came out...I like Saliva, and I'm a sucker for baritone/tenor harmony...


I'm gonna go kill myself now.

Posted by: Ian at June 2, 2009 7:35 PM

Y'know what's really sad? 10 years ago, when they were still in Buttfuck Nowhere, Canada, before they charted in the States, Nickelback wasn't a half-bad band. Can't explain why they suck so much now

Posted by: Thaklaar at June 2, 2009 7:36 PM

Okay, I want to defend George on this point: Age is meaningless. One of the most popular music blogs on the internet is written by a 13-year-old kid from Minneapolis. By the time I was in 10th grade, I found countless bands I still listen to today, and developed a music taste akin to a Pitchfork reviewer (though I've turned out to be less radically douchey than they are).

I've only been out of high school for about two years. I'm still in college. I turn 20 on Friday. I would NEVER say that George shouldn't comment on music because of his age. I actually find it more frustrating when I hear people who claim that they don't listen to new music because there's no good new music anyomre (total bullshit).

Any issues I have with this article are in regards to criticisms which are terribly basic and shallow, in addition to a general lack of knowledge about today's music scene. I'm not saying that I have never written shitty reviews or whatnot. But you've gotta dig a little deeper than you have here for future work. I hate to critcize other writers, because I feel like I'm being pretentious, but I hope you honestly consider the comments here and fix some of the troubles you're having for future work.

Posted by: ChristianH at June 2, 2009 7:37 PM

Also, Pancho, I may have destroyed whatever cred I had with my above comment, but leave TMV out of it. Despite the uneven (and I daresay sometimes grating) quality of their last three albums, I would put Deloused in the Comatorium up against any general rock album put out in the last 30 years - not to mention that genre-wise it wipes the floor with most of the prog, punk and art rock albums this decade.

My opinion, of course.

Posted by: Ian at June 2, 2009 7:41 PM

Ah, Pancho Ramone, it's clear that you don't like our usual work. I don't understand your beef with Arctic Monkeys or The Mars Volta. I seriously think those are two of the best bands to come out of this decade. You strike me as one of those types who dislikes bands that are too underground just because. You don't like to be told that a band is good, so you react negatively when a band gets tons of good press. That, to me, is the mark of someone who's truly pretentious. And no, I never want another Frank Black or Sonic Youth record. Ever.

Posted by: ChristianH at June 2, 2009 7:42 PM

Kinda loving the leap of logic that any disagreement with the article = automatic fandom for the musicians being skewered.

That makes so much sense, because God forbid somebody can dislike these folks without eviscerating them.

Posted by: Vermillion at June 2, 2009 7:45 PM

I was getting worried. I was going to be quite angry at this list if Nickelback wasn't included. And then - BAM! - number one. Thank you, George. They're the worst fucking band in the world. I thought I couldn't hate a group of people more than I hate Good Charlotte, but these guys... they must try! They must put effort into being worse than a rectal prolapse.

They actually have a song that goes - quite seriously - "you look better with something in your mouth".

Claaaaaaassy.

Posted by: Simon A at June 2, 2009 7:45 PM

Vermillion, what do you mean? I honestly don't follow your argument.

Posted by: ChristianH at June 2, 2009 7:47 PM

Wait, nevermind, I misread. I gotcha.

Posted by: ChristianH at June 2, 2009 7:48 PM

I must agree with the person above's comment about Cracked. If you want to be sort of like Cracked, then be all the way liked crack, i.e. DO YOUR RESEARCH. We can argue about the opinions and writing style and quality, but in the end this was a poorly researched and poorly argued piece.

Posted by: fifteenkeys at June 2, 2009 7:54 PM

ugggh.... "If you want to be sort of like Cracked, then be all the way liked Cracked,...."

Posted by: fifteenkeys at June 2, 2009 7:55 PM

Vermillion, THANK YOU for reminding all of us that defending an artist does NOT always mean we are automatic fanboys and girls.

BarbadoSlim, you're right, I didn't trash Avril Lavigne, so it could be easy to assume that I'm a huge fan. Well, let me set the record straight:

I don't need to go to Avril Lavigne's fan site to listen to "Sk8er Boi," because it was THE "it song" for the girls in my senior class in high school. After about three consecutive listens, the song becomes absolutely unbearable--the lyrics, the voice, and the arrangement are equally grating. Her songs have gotten progressively more self-obsessed, whiny, and angsty, all sounding incredibly similar (and again, I don't listen to her, but catch an occasional song on the radio on the rare days I happen to turn it on). It seems she hasn't matured or developed as an artist AT ALL, which for someone who grew from a teen musician into her 20s is sad, indeed.

Now, had George said something to that effect to kick off his critique, I would have had no quibble. Unfortunately, saying you hate someone's name is quite irrelevant to their music--in fact, it's akin to saying you won't see an Angelina Jolie movie for the mere fact that she's an adultress. That kind of logic irritates me, and that's why I spoke up. In short, I was not defending Avril herself, but questioning the logic behind the statement.

Posted by: Bonnie at June 2, 2009 8:06 PM

OK, I think there's been plenty of George-bashing. Yes, many of the criticisms offered are valid, and hopefully George will learn something from them.

However, in George's defense: If you think you can do better, go for it. Do your exhaustive research and write up your own list. Argue eloquently on behalf of your deeply held opinions. Proofread well. Then proofread again. Send it in to the Pajiba-editors and maybe they'll post it. Then we can all read it and tell you exactly what we think about it (and where you can stick it, of course).

Posted by: MM at June 2, 2009 8:16 PM

@ Ian: I actually DO like De-loused in the Comatorium (or at least the few songs I've heard off of it...the last one, "Take the Veil-whatever-whatever" comes to mind) and have fond memories of blasting Relationship of Command...it's just their latter stuff I'm not so hot about; more specifically, 3/4s of their career so far.

@ Christian H: Hmm I'm not getting the point of your arguments here, buddy...A) you say I dislike bands for being too "underground", but I mention a bunch of prototypically "underground" bands I like in my comment and B) you say I dislike bands just because they're acclaimed, while I distinctly remember gushing over Grizzly Bear (for example) on the comments section of a review you (I think!) wrote! Who has been adored by critics/fans the world over more than Grizzly Bear over the past couple of years (other than Radiohead, whom I love)? No, it's not hyped artists I'm against, it's the bestowing-of-said-hype-upon-undeserving-receptacles, which admittedly is a completely subjective field of study and I must admit a bit of douchiness went into the stating of my opinion, but hey! It's my opinion, and what's an opinion if not pure subjectivity? It is "Scathing Reviews for Bitchy People", isn't it? And I'm bitchy! I wasn't breast-fed! Mom, why?

Posted by: Pancho Ramone at June 2, 2009 8:23 PM

Creed, Poison, and The Backstreet Boys, though the worst of their decades

WHO LET THIS GUY IN? OK, yes, Creed sucks, although they at least have GOD on their side, which is more than I can say for you. But Poison and Backstreet Boys... step off, boy. Step. Off.

If only girls like this would just stick the Anna Nicole Smith route and pose naked in magazines and get addicted to booze and drugs and spiral publicly downwards until they die of an overdose? Good advice!

Posted by: SaBrina at June 2, 2009 8:26 PM

I have no doubt that the bands mentioned here are every bit the soul crushing horrors you say they are (I've only heard Nickelback and oh God would I give to somehow unhear them), but every ** every ** decade mostly consisted of crass overly produced crap. Everyone loves "80s night" and whatnot, but if you actually played an accurate sample of the music actually being played on the radio in 1981 or 1985 it would clear out the room in no time.

It's easy to whine about FedEx and Hannah Ray Jonas or whatever but the fact is this is actually a great decade for music, if you are willing to dig a little. Most won't, and I don't begrudge them for that, but if you are going to whine about the state of America or whatever you really should open your mind a little. For instance, in the Kinsasha region in the Congo, there is a local scene consisting of some of the most otherworldly transmusic since, well, ever. (Kasai Allstars, Konono No One, Basokin, Sobanza Mimyasa). Or the Finnish "forest folk" scene (Kemmistadt Ysevelt). Or the glut of amazing American bands that have come up in the last 5 years alone (Factums, Lamps, The Hospitals, Wooden Shjips, Wavves). Or Mexico's Los Llamarada. Or Tineriwan, from North Africa. Thanks to the internet you can learn about these bands with the click of a mouse so you don't even have the excuse my generation had.

Look, I've long since made peace with the fact that 99% of what I like is viewed as an oddity/weird/noise by the general population and 99% of what they like I can't stand, but I'm not the one bemoaning everybody else's taste. When it comes to music, most people don't want to take the time to investigate new bands and simply take what the radio stations offer them. I can hardly begrudge people for having other priorities. What I DO get tired of is people who get on their elitist bandwagon of how crappy everyone else's music is without any interest or enthusiasm for the few standouts that are out there, or even any curiosity about how to find them.

Posted by: Laughner at June 2, 2009 8:38 PM

George, I'm a high schooler, and I, too, agree that most of the acts you've listed have created some horrible "music." You have a sort of edginess to your writing that I kind of like, but, like most commenters so far, I feel that some of the points you made in this were unnecessary and scary, not Pajiba's usual scathing, but justifiable tone. I don't know...I guess I'm just reiterating what everyone else has said.

Plus, most high school kids know that these music artists - for lack of a better word right now - suck. Looking at this list, it's obvious that a lot of these acts are geared towards the kids who are younger than us, the middle-school kids, a group that will easily yield to whatever seems "cool" to them. Fortunately, some kids are smarter than that (like my sixth grader brother, thank goodness). Also, you made the grave mistake of forgetting that our generation has the technology and access to a lot of current, exciting musical acts. You have to remember that every generation had some horrible acts, so go out and discover the good ones! Our generation is not as "fucked up" as you think it is. Yeah, I'm optimistic.

Posted by: KP at June 2, 2009 8:40 PM

Wow, Laughner put it best.

Posted by: KP at June 2, 2009 8:43 PM

Wow, Laughner, your command of world music is stunning! I'm going to have to put some of these guys on Pandora, give them a listen.

And George, least you be discouraged by the bitchiness around you (mine included), you have generated a lot of interesting comments and reactions, quite a remarkable feat for a new-ish poster. I utterly take back my dig at you, sir.

Posted by: Bonnie at June 2, 2009 8:50 PM

I have barely given five minutes to any of the artists on this list, yet manage to refuel my ipod with new music every other week. I guess they suck, I'll have to take your word for it.
All points about misogyny, modulation, research and easy target choice have been well made by others, I’ll just add a “hell yes”. If you suckle the teat of the increasingly haggard corporate music cash cow (particularly when there are an abundance of healthy alternatives), don’t whinge that the milk tastes sour.

Articles like these stand out like dog balls on a wedding cake next to the thoughtful essays of Dan Carlson, Ted Boynton and Steven Lloyd Wilson. Even Lester Bangs’ most acerbic rants were born of an ardent love and deep understanding of his subject (check out Psychotic Reactions and Carburettor Dung for his definitive collection). Scathing and bitchy Pajiba may be, but there is usually a carefully considered argument to go with it. Good luck with your next go round should it come along.

BTW, what's up with TK?

Posted by: RandyPanTheGoatboy at June 2, 2009 9:06 PM

As someone who seeks to broaden her musical tastes beyond pre-1997 hip-hop/R&B, I thought I was doing pretty good with that Nickelback CD. Guess I was wrong.

Shit.

Posted by: ceejeemcbeegee at June 2, 2009 9:12 PM

This is an unfortunate pile of obviousity. In other news:

Sky=Blue
Date Rape=Old News, probably never happens.
American Idol=Slightly More statistically Gay than Average.
Bear Poop= Woods.

Posted by: Stacy D at June 2, 2009 9:22 PM

Will not argue with any of that - so very VERY accurate.

Posted by: joyeetargh at June 2, 2009 10:20 PM

RE "However, in George's defense: If you think you can do better, go for it. Do your exhaustive research and write up your own list. Argue eloquently on behalf of your deeply held opinions. Proofread well. Then proofread again. Send it in to the Pajiba-editors and maybe they'll post it."

Yeah, I gotta call bullshit on this. Not sure what it takes to get a guest spot, or whatever it's called, on Pajiba, but judging by this offering, it involves a blood relation or sexual favors. Seriously.

George is an OK writer, not outstanding. He's young, he'll learn, I appreciate enthusiasm, but... this wasn't very good. And the list was fucking lame. Actually, the whole idea of the list was lame. George could have at least made the title more interesting (and more accurate) by calling it something like "The 11 Most Profound Insults to Music in the New Century" or something like that. But a teenage boy (I assume you're still a teenager) ragging on chick bands (ie, music that only teenage girls listen to)? Even for a high schooler, that's just weak. What next? The 13 Worst Movies, featuring every movie with the word "Wedding" in it?

Posted by: Slash at June 2, 2009 10:38 PM

I'm with mightygodking.

Posted by: Maryscott O'Connor at June 2, 2009 10:58 PM

and they’re all even uglier than the current members of The Rolling Stones.
---
You bite your fucking tongue. Ain't NObody uglier than the Stones, motherfucker. Rock and roll ain't pretty, and they wear their ugly proud. They EARNED that ugly ...

Thank God DBTs by their ownselves have single-handedly rendered Nos. 1-11 null and void.

Posted by: , (the commenter formerly known as bucdaddy) at June 3, 2009 12:00 AM

Also, as far as bad presidents go, you can be excused for not having lived through the Carter Administration.

Posted by: , (the commenter formerly known as bucdaddy) at June 3, 2009 1:14 AM

This author of this list forgot to include Coldplay.

Posted by: NF at June 3, 2009 1:36 AM

No self respecting soul has EVER listened to the radio. Not since they had an AM portable taped to the handlebars of their Huffy. "Someone knockin' at the door... somebodiy ringin' the bell." Every hour on the hour. Please.

WFMT excluded.

The only music rag ever worth reading or even mentioning has always been Goldmine. Fuckin' anyone into music knows that.

Corporate acts suck. Thanks for the news flash.
Do yourself a favor. Go out and buy some virgin vinyl. Because there is obviously no local talent you could possibly support. Pick up a quality bottle of whatever. Sit back, get educated, and don't EVER say "aughts" again. 'Cause right now you are the problem.

Posted by: Ignatius J. Reilly at June 3, 2009 3:56 AM

Wow, just WOW, I've never seen so much piling-on (mostly unfair and completely baseless) on a reviewer.

Just keep in mind that young master George doesn't work for any of you hipster assclowns. You'd think he shot Lennon or something judging by some of the comments.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at June 3, 2009 7:00 AM

wow, there have been about 70 comments since I left work yesterday and after seeing all the scathing and bitchy sent in George's direction I would like to take back my comment. Yeah I didn't like the column but geez I'm starting to feel icky for being a part of this hazing. If Dustin or TK had written a list we didn't like so much it never would have inspired all this.

Posted by: Jilly at June 3, 2009 9:19 AM

BSlim, with all respect, I gave the young man credit for having some nascent talent and directed my criticism and his needless misogyny.
Many others offered constructive criticism on his lack of research.
It does take a serious belief in one's own talent to write a column for this website and I credit George with having the courage to do so while knowing that it would likely stir controversy... but isn't that what a good article does? This has been a pretty lively debate with a lot of give and take, so hats off to Dustin for facilitating the process.
By the way, I hope that George continues to write for this site and that he'll take the constructive criticism to heart.

Posted by: Spender at June 3, 2009 9:19 AM

I say this everytime I see Nickleback on a website:

As a Canadian, I apologise. We let you, the global community, down. We should've done something as a country to stop these guys from ever becoming popular. Thanks to the bane that is Canadian Content Regulations (CCR), we're basically forced to play Nickleback over and over and over, because god knows there aren't any other Canadian bands trying to become popular and get radio time.

As a nation, we should've taken Nickleback behind a shed and had them shot. For failing to do so, I apologise on behalf of Canada. I'm sorry. We're sorry.

We are so very, very sorry. It is a shame we will have to live with for the rest of our lives.

Posted by: chenry at June 3, 2009 9:28 AM

Your entries are usually better then this...usually I agree with you 100% but so much is wrong in this that I have to avert my eyes.

You missed the hoop with this one, stick to movies and television...music ain't your thang.

Posted by: Angelmonster at June 3, 2009 9:41 AM

I'm in strong disagreement, Angelmonster.
TK, Felicia, Caspar, Christian H and the other music writers on this site do a superb job of informing us about music and their columns are, for many of us, highly anticipated every week.
George's column was a guest piece and is not indicative of the usual quality of music writing done for Pajiba.

Posted by: Spender at June 3, 2009 9:50 AM

RE Spender "By the way, I hope that George continues to write for this site ..."

I don't.

I've seen commenters rag on other commenters for their opinions far more harshly than what's in this thread, and for less reason.

But I don't own Pajiba, so it doesn't really matter what I think.

Posted by: Slash at June 3, 2009 1:52 PM

I have to disagree about the assessment that Nickelback had no connections. Chad Kroeger's family is connected up with a lot big Canadian media and political names.

Secondly, Fall Out Boy really sticks out on this list. Yes, it's not the greatest music in the world but it's certainly more listenable than a lot of the other bands. I find the personal attacks at Wentz irritating and lacking in Pajiba's usual style. It's fine if you want to hate on the band but bring reasons about the band not about the personal life of one of their members.

Posted by: Karla at June 3, 2009 2:03 PM

Seriously? Music analysis from a fucking high school kid?

What the FUCK is wrong with you, Pajiba?

Did you want a week off or something? The regular contributors to this fine blog-like thing are a joy to read, even if I don't agree with them.

Posted by: Big Daddy Bacchus at June 3, 2009 2:31 PM

Wow...really? You've got nothing better to do than attack harmless disney pop singers and bands?

Really? THEY are the worst?

Come the fuck on, sure they wont last, but they aren't doing anything wrong or dreadful. Grow up.

Posted by: Max at June 3, 2009 2:41 PM

Wow. Who let my 13-year-old self write a Pajiba column? I know George is super angsty and hardcore and whatever (like every other teenager who loathes high school) but he lacks the authority and perspective to be taken seriously.

Also, of course the music from the past seems so awesome. All of the crap has been left behind while the truly good stuff remains.

Posted by: Flannery at June 3, 2009 3:47 PM

I appreciate the effort, George, but you're trying way too hard. Tone down the snarky/edgy shit and tell us what you're really thinking. That is what I want to read.

Posted by: Another Jen at June 4, 2009 1:47 AM

Bored by this. Can hear this from anyone any day of the week.

I want insight, dammit.

On a separate note, for your age you are a fairly decent writer, a good writer considering your age. Don't let your Ego make you mad at the criticism. Try to take it constructively.

Keep writing.

Posted by: Haystacks at June 4, 2009 3:46 AM

Wow. This reads more like a C- Cracked post with no real targets. I wanted to like this article, because there are so many terrible music acts out right now. This article demanded a better class of villain. Too many of these were too easy, and a few don't fit the new millennium zietgiest where the article's rage should be properly directed.

A big deal has been made of your age, and the fact that you presumably wrote this between getting swirlies at your local high school. Taking this into account, I'll rate the article better than I might, because most kids your at age lack this sort of articulation, let alone the desire to write a sentence that doesn't include numbers for letters. I didn't care for this article, but I do, like many here have already mentioned, see potential. Keep it up, George.

As for far more fitting recipients of rage, Simon A already mentioned Good Charlotte, who's songs are like fortune cookies of suck, and good example of why I haven't bought any new CD's this decade.

But by far the biggest offender, is, (and I can NOT believe no one mentioned them) is...

Papa Roach.

Worst Band of the Oughts, and quite possibly the Worst. Band. Ever.

Posted by: AmbroseKalifornia at June 4, 2009 8:55 AM

You know what, George? Everyone has to start somewhere. I applaud you for trotting your opinions out for people to skewer- that takes cojones, my lad. I can't and shan't hate on you for writing about what you know- apparently this list is what you know.

As an old person, I can't say I totally agreed with your list (though Nickleback was RIGHT THE FUCK ON) but personally, I hope you will continue to contribute to Pajiba and I look forward to watching you grow as a writer and as a person. You're balls-out, and I rather like that.

That is all.

Posted by: Cletus at June 4, 2009 11:54 AM

I disagree with the inclusion of Smashmouth only because I think they really belong to the mid-90s. That's when "Walkin' on the Sun," their "one hit," was on the radio. I confess I was kind of into this mediocre surf band at the time, which was also when I was into the "Redwall" books, and acing 6th grade math.

Posted by: sillymonster at June 4, 2009 6:21 PM

Pajiba is a misogynist-ass place where its not really safe for women who like having rights to voice their opinions (see: the flame war that erupted last time I tried to do so). However, this post goes well and beyond even Mr. Boynton's most sexist contributions.

You aren't entitled to our bodies, George. It doesn't matter if you want to touch Fergie, that's not why she's there. Violence against women, especially sexual violence, is not fucking funny. It's not fucking funny even if you are trying to be cute in front of the other Pajiba misogynists. It's not fucking funny even if you are talking about celebrities. It's not fucking funny even if you are talking about celebrities who annoy you. These women are people, they don't deserve to be hurt and humiliated. Learn this and grow the fuck up.

Posted by: Dareva at June 4, 2009 6:37 PM

you're a shitty writer with terrible grammar. i don't know what grade of high school you're in, but it is irrelevant because there's no excuse for grammar this bad.

in addition, your list is inaccurate and this was a bad reading experience.

Posted by: thatguy at June 5, 2009 12:26 PM

Dear Pajiba,

Thanks for publishing the very helpful list above, much of which I believe is representative of the gingivitis eating away at the gums of our modern society. One question, though: would it be okay to add Evanescence at #12? I really think Amy Lee's vocals are the herald to the arrival of the anti-Christ. Have a nice day!

Andy

Posted by: Andy Geisel at June 5, 2009 5:55 PM

While I agree that most of these artists aren't very good, you could not have possibly presented your opinions in a less thought-out or intelligent manner. All I see is a bunch of cussing and no real support for your opinions.

Posted by: Mike at June 10, 2009 4:36 PM

Umm, wait, where is Lady Gaga on this list?

Posted by: Kaylee at June 17, 2009 2:15 PM

C'mon, this is shooting fish in a barrel. I have managed to live through the aughts without once listening to any of the "artists" you list here, yet I buy somewhere around 20-30 albums a month, most of it pop or pop-rock. Just the indie movement alone is enough to belie your claims of a musical holocaust in this decade. yes, radio is over. so what? there are so many other avenues for the transmission of new music now, we have no need of radio, just as we have no need for telegrams or the pony express. We have blogs, we have iTunes, we have file-sharing. This is fun and funny but gives no idea of the actual musical landscape of the decade. The 60's are widely acknowledged as a brilliant epoch for popular music, yet it had more than its share of vapid horseshit and commercial dreck. I believe we live in the annus mirabilus. Just ignore the out-moded avenues like major labels and radio.

Posted by: severin the wanderer at July 6, 2009 4:48 PM

C'mon, this is shooting fish in a barrel. I have managed to live through the aughts without once listening to any of the "artists" you list here, yet I buy somewhere around 20-30 albums a month, most of it pop or pop-rock. Just the indie movement alone is enough to belie your claims of a musical holocaust in this decade. yes, radio is over. so what? there are so many other avenues for the transmission of new music now, we have no need of radio, just as we have no need for telegrams or the pony express. We have blogs, we have iTunes, we have file-sharing. This kind of listing is fun to do and funny to read but gives no idea of the actual musical landscape of the decade. The 60's are widely acknowledged as a brilliant epoch for popular music, yet they had more than their share of vapid horseshit and commercial dreck. I believe we live in the annus mirabilus. Just ignore the outmoded avenues like major labels and radio.

Posted by: severin the wanderer at July 6, 2009 4:52 PM