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Good Night, and Good Luck

By Daniel Carlson | Posted Under Miscellaneous | Comments (78)



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Tonight is the first edition of The Pajiba Movie Club, where we announce a movie a couple of weeks in advance, you check it out, and everyone comes back at an appointed time to discuss it. We will select someone who participates in tonight’s discussion to pick the next entry in this series, should this one succeed. We will kick it off with Dan’s fine review, originally published in 2005. You folks can take it from here. — DR

No one knows who Edward R. Murrow was anymore. At least, no one in my generation. And I was a journalism major in college. Granted, I had the curious fortune to attend a private religious university, so most of the students probably would only have known Murrow’s name if he were a key player in Bush’s election. Nonetheless, no one now really knows about Murrow, and if they do, it’s from a few cursory paragraphs in their 11th-grade history books, sandwiched between a blurb about the Dresden bombing and the rough draft of their notes about how Laguna Beach is like totally the greatest show ever. Not many people know much about how Murrow, as a television journalist for CBS, shed a powerful light upon the frightening work of Joseph McCarthy, a senator from Wisconsin with an axe to grind against the Communist Party. McCarthy always claimed to have proof that Communists were infiltrating the White House, or Hollywood, or our very own sacred American neighborhoods. It might be hard for some people to understand the foolish paranoia that McCarthy was working to spread back then, but substitute “Al Qaeda” for “Communist” and you start to get the idea.

David Strathairn stars as Murrow in Good Night, and Good Luck, the second film from director George Clooney, and a far more accomplished one than his Confessions of a Dangerous Mind. Clooney co-stars as Murrow’s producer, Fred Friendly, and the film follows Murrow’s televised pursuit and criticism of McCarthy, the senator’s subsequent bumbling response, and the price Murrow ultimately paid for sticking to his guns.

Murrow does a piece on his “See It Now” program about a lieutenant discharged from the armed forces for being a “security risk,” despite never being confronted with any evidence to support the charge. The piece brings criticism from the Pentagon, but Murrow remains undeterred in his efforts to expose such stories and other examples of McCarthy’s scare tactics to the public. Murrow’s big moment comes when he airs a piece attacking McCarthy’s positions using McCarthy’s own words, from television and newspapers, against him. McCarthy records a response that airs on Murrow’s program a month later, in which he falsely accuses Murrow of belonging to Communist groups. Murrow’s coverage leads to a Senate investigation of McCarthy, but by then it’s too late: Under pressure from sponsors, network boss Bill Paley forces Murrow to a Sunday afternoon time slot, and his show is eventually canceled.

But the historical facts don’t make the film any less exciting; oddly, they make it more so. Clooney’s film isn’t a documentary, but a tense drama about a group of men trying to tread carefully enough so that they can spread the truth before their presence is eventually eliminated. Strathairn is brilliant as Murrow, committed but human, and his performance won him the best actor award at the Venice Film Festival. Come February, it could be Strathairn versus Philip Seymour Hoffman for the Academy Award. Clooney has the calm and class to perform well as Friendly without overshadowing Strathairn, an underappreciated character actor, who’s turned in reliable performances in everything from L.A. Confidential to Limbo, and this film could finally do for him what Adaptation did for Chris Cooper.

The script, from Clooney and Grant Heslov, relies heavily on archival footage, especially for McCarthy, who appears in the film only in old newsreels or programs. It’s already been reported that test audiences thought the person playing McCarthy was guilty of “overacting,” which is a cute story, although it makes you wonder if the test audiences were those O.C.-focused high schoolers. But the footage is a smart move, much like Murrow’s original decision to use McCarthy’s own words against him. There’s no way an actor could top McCarthy’s passionate insanity, so why try?

The focused plot is mirrored in Clooney’s decision to shoot the entire thing in black and white. It makes sense for several reasons. First, the heavily used archival footage is black and white, so filming the actors in a similar manner gives the movie a unified look and tone. The lack of color also fits the time frame: like it or not, that’s how people think of the 1950s. It feels more normal to see things from that era in black and white than in color. But the film’s monochromatic set-up also stands as a stark double to the kind of mentality McCarthy was trying to spread, and one that’s never really left us. Right-or-wrong, black-and-white, right-or-left: you can follow it from McCarthy through the Bay of Pigs and all the way to the Patriot Act. If only Clooney were this clever in his other films, maybe he would have avoided making Ocean’s Twelve.

As soon as Murrow and Friendly begin airing anti-McCarthy pieces, they start to feel heat from CBS corporate, whose sponsors aren’t thrilled about being attached to a news show out to rock the boat instead of seeking simply to entertain. Early on, Paley (Frank Langella) asks Murrow when he decided to take sides and editorialize. It’s an important question: What, specifically, should a journalist’s role be? Is it ever justified to go beyond reporting the facts and begin professing an opinion?

The question’s premise is slightly flawed: There’s no such thing as in impartial reporter. Reporters collect as many facts as they can, then attempt to lay them out for the reader as a story. It’s not the reporter’s job to grant every high official the benefit of the doubt, and Clooney has made no secret of his passion for the job of journalists to ask the tough questions, to provide the check that makes possible a balance. Good Night, and Good Luck serves as a powerful reminder of the fear that McCarthy and his ilk spread, but it’s more an indictment of the complacency of today’s mass media and a startling parallel to life in the time of the Patriot Act; when Murrow explains to his colleagues that McCarthy’s tactics are working because “the terror is right here in this room,” it’s impossible not to notice Clooney’s deft use of the word “terror” to call attention to its true nature. It’s just as likely to come from ourselves as from outsiders.

The film is bookended with Murrow’s speech at the Radio-Television News Director Association convention in October 1958. In it, Murrow excoriates the media for being “fat, comfortable, and complacent,” and claims that television is “being used to distract, delude, amuse and insulate us.” If only Murrow could have lived to see the current state of things. In his day, Murrow was lauded for going after McCarthy when no one else had the courage; such actions now would surely be the target of a few hateful hours of punditry on Fox News. In his time, Murrow’s critics claimed he was editorializing and going too far beyond the parameters of his job; but as Murrow himself said, “There is a difference between dissent and disloyalty.” That’s ultimately what Clooney has given us: an ode to dissenting in the interests of freedom. “We must not walk in fear of one another,” Murrow said, words that some Americans, Clooney reminds us, have found hard to hold on to since the fall of 2001.

Murrow’s speech at the convention concludes, complete with the parlance of his time: “I do not advocate that we turn television into a 27-inch wailing wall, where longhairs constantly moan about the state of our culture and our defense. But I would just like to see it reflect occasionally the hard, unyielding realities of the world in which we live.” Without sharp minds guiding us, TV is “merely wires and lights in a box.” Words for my generation to heed; pity I haven’t heard them until now.









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Comments

I was glad to have a reason for re-watching this; I had forgotten how much I liked it.
I always like it when movies look to the past to shed light on a current situation. And what a bright light is used in this instance. It's a little scary to watch the reactions of everyone in the movie and realize that things haven't changed much. However, journalism would seem now to have more freedom to call attention to wrongdoings, but fewer people seem less inclined to want to try.

A question, since I'm curious. What was the point of the side story of the couple (RDJ and Patricia Clarkson) keeping their marriage a secret? It didn't lend much to the larger story for me, even though I enjoyed watching them.

Posted by: myysharona (formerly Sharon) at September 22, 2009 9:12 PM

While I wasn't exactly blown away by this movie, it certainly held my attention and I learned a lot.
I wish more films would be in black and white, I love the way it looks and the things you can do with shadows. I also liked the way it was paced. Modern audiences are so used to choppy editing, it didn't suprise me to read reviews on Netflix that called it boring.
Was I the only one that thought that McCarthy looked and acted a lot like Bill O'Reily?

Posted by: Kurdt at September 22, 2009 9:21 PM

As I suspected before viewing GN&GL, this just isn't a movie for me. While I am very interested in the subject matter (perhaps in the form of a History Channel show), as a film this didn't work. Despite a great desire to be excited about how the material was presented, I felt no sense of tension or suspense.
Was the acting excellent? Yes. But the archive footage was what I found most compelling. Did the film achieve a certain look and mood, and perhaps capture the time period? Certainly. Was it well done? Absolutely. But I found nothing added by all the big name (and lesser name) actors. I'd have done just as well - perhaps even better - watching an historical documentary.
I did love Dianne Reeves and her jazz group.

Posted by: Cindy at September 22, 2009 9:22 PM

Hi guys! I love this movie. It looks fantastic.

Posted by: Mebe at September 22, 2009 9:23 PM

I hadn't watched this before this weekend. To me, the movie played like it was made last year in response to all the torture revelations and the way the media is handling it. The discussions about "balance", other journalists denouncing the pieces, calling into question Murrow's patriotism, etc.


I'm not sure why RDJ and Clarkson's marriage storyline was in the movie - maybe to show some of the differences between then and now to highlight the similarities further, or a little lightening of the mood?

Posted by: Three-nineteen at September 22, 2009 9:24 PM

Looks, as in the cinematography.

Posted by: Mebe at September 22, 2009 9:25 PM

I think the whole marriage thing was to give a sense of the repression of the time. And also as a communist red herring.

Posted by: Kurdt at September 22, 2009 9:28 PM

I thought the secret marriage was another way to illustrate the societal norms of the time.

The Husband and I really enjoyed this movie. I felt that David Strathairn was absolutely glorious as Murrow. The entire movie was infuriating, though-provoking, and served to remind us that we haven't come as far as we like to think in some respects.

Posted by: Pinky McLadybits at September 22, 2009 9:28 PM

Great movie, great performance in the lead role.

Incidentally, Joe McCarthy is a truly frightening villain.

Posted by: trippdup at September 22, 2009 9:32 PM

I enjoyed the jazz group, but showing them singing really took me out of the movie. The music would start, and the scene would be of some of the cast at a bar drinking or something, then all of a sudden we cut back to the radio show for part of the song, and then we go on to another scene which is also not at CBS Studios. Maybe I wouldn't have been so bothered if the transitions in the visuals made more sense.

Posted by: Three-nineteen at September 22, 2009 9:33 PM

After seeing the film in theatres, I remember being impressed. But now, time has passed, I know more about the events that were taking place around the Murrow broadcast, and I've got to say, I love the movie even more now. I think Clooney's film works as a standalone, without knowing exactly who these players are before viewing it, but it definitely enriches the experience to know.

I was also surprised, upon this second viewing (though perhaps I shouldn't be, at this point), with how well directed this film is. Every shot is in the right place, it's paced well, and Clooney has a way of framing the tension in a way that doesn't seem cheap or exploitative (if that makes sense). It's like the difference between a good horror film and one that makes you jump.

Fantastic film, fantastic cast.

A question for other pajibans: Do you think sticking to archival footage only for McCarthy was a good choice?

Posted by: Kevin Longrie at September 22, 2009 9:33 PM

OK, where to begin. I could easily see the discussion turning to politics. This is obviously a very politically charged movie and there is a lot of discussion that can come from analyzing the filmmakers' decisions to make this movie at this time and what they were trying to say.

It is certainly a good looking movie, and there is a lot to be praised in the technical aspects and the performances, the decision to use archival footage for McCarthy, the significance of the side plots.

Another thing that has already come up and has come up a lot recently on this site: Is this a "boring movie". Slow, dialogue heavy, black & white... Did people just have trouble getting into it?

Posted by: Yossarian at September 22, 2009 9:33 PM

I suppose, reading the comments of Kurdt and Pinky, that the marriage thing showed a more human, more relatable version of such secrecy and deception. It was an intriguing plot point, but it seemed a little tacked on to me.
I'm pretty much willing to watch Patricia Clarkson do anything, though.

I started laughing a little at all the smoking, though. Way to capture a generation, Clooney.

Posted by: myysharona (formerly Sharon) at September 22, 2009 9:33 PM

I saw this movie like a year and a half ago, but I had just gotten out of the hospital and I was pretty loopy on an assortment of drugs and I kept falling asleep. I watched it twice and still ended up with no real idea of what was going on. I've always heard that it's great and I should give it another try now that I'm not all sickly and doped to the gills, but I just can't seem to get interested enough to watch it again. Actually, it seems that lately I have to be prodded or downright bullied into watching anything more than documentaries on ancient history. I'm in some kind of weird movie funk.

Posted by: Sarina at September 22, 2009 9:35 PM

Kevin, I really liked the fact that they stuck to archival footage for McCarthy. Why pass up such good stuff, especially since he didn't have to deal with Murrow face to face? The guy was doing it better than any actor could have, and I think it grounded the cadence and speaking styles of the other actors--gave them something to build around.

Posted by: myysharona (formerly Sharon) at September 22, 2009 9:37 PM

Ok, I'm an asshole, crashing the party... I didn't watch the movie. (Incidentally, I'm in a book club and I only read the book about 50% of the time. Fortunately, my book club is 'cool' and it's mostly about hanging out and drinking wine. Much like I envision Pajiba.)

Without seeing the movie, but having read this review, it suddenly struck me how much Glenn Beck is like McCarthy. All he has to do is point his mighty accusing finger at someone (Obama advisor, let's say), and poof, they're gone! No actual inquiry as to the merits of the accusation. Nothing. Just the lowest, basest fear-mongering, and then the "J'accuse!" No one person should have that kind of power, especially since those who wield it, like Beck and McCarthy, are inevitably INSANE.

Posted by: MM at September 22, 2009 9:39 PM

I agree with myysharona. The archival footage of McCarthy was genius. It made sense to use the man himself since the interactions between McCarthy and Murrow could easily be pulled off without a live actor interacting with Strathairn.

Posted by: Pinky McLadybits at September 22, 2009 9:41 PM

When Murrow first brought up the case of the dismissed pilot, I was actually struck by the similarity to "don't ask don't tell." As far as I know, not much evidence is needed, right? Granted, they were doing the asking back then, boy were they ever, but the end results are the same.

MM, I find it interesting that the parallel you draw from McCarthy is to someone in the media. Interesting turn of events, no?

Posted by: myysharona (formerly Sharon) at September 22, 2009 9:43 PM

Do you think sticking to archival footage only for McCarthy was a good choice?

Yes. I don't think anyone else could have been more frightening.

Similarly, in viewing footage of G.W. Bush could anyone be as effective (portraying him)?

Posted by: Cindy at September 22, 2009 9:45 PM

The secret marriage plotline was a little odd because you kind of get dropped into the middle of it without a lot of explanation as to what the issue is or why it is an issue. Maybe it is meant to parallel the communist witch hunt/ having to hide who you are/ not revealing anything about yourself for fear of reprisals. Also, it's more setting the scene for how things were different in the 50s.

What didn't work for me was the newscaster who committed suicide. I presume this was a true event but the way it was portrayed in the film... it just rang kind of hollow. Did I miss something? Was there a real reason given for it (besides criticism in the newspaper) and I missed it? It was just this weird moment for me. Was it trying to show the casualties of Murrow's crusade against McCarthy?

Posted by: Yossarian at September 22, 2009 9:45 PM

I didn't have any problem with the pacing of the movie - but I'm probably the wrong person to ask, because I love well-written movies with a lot of great dialog. Black & White isn't a problem either. If it's well-written and acted, I enjoy it even through plot holes and "nothing happening".

I disagree with whoever said there was no tension in the movie. Murrow's career and reputation hung in the balance - he lost one and kept the other. Not to mention what happened with Ray Wise's character. I've never heard of him and had no idea what was going to happen with his career.

Posted by: Three-nineteen at September 22, 2009 9:47 PM

Favorite line: "Have you no decency?"

I thought that scene with the oven was quite chilling. I don't know if McCarthy was proud of the fact that he drove people to suicide but Arthur Comstock sure was. (They should make a movie about that guy...)

Posted by: Kurdt at September 22, 2009 9:47 PM

beautiful woman her combat index to 3200.. is she still stay with her husband.. someone posted on yahoo answers that she has an profile on an online site
**** Sugarloves.Com **** you know it is a bad site for rich men to seek sexy girls.!!!!!!!!

Posted by: ilove at September 22, 2009 9:48 PM

Darn it, I meant Anthony Comstock...

Posted by: Kurdt at September 22, 2009 9:49 PM

Archival footage of McCarthy was a great move, and the way it fit in seamlessly with the rest of the movie is a testament to the performances, the cinematography, etc. George did a great job making this look pretty.

Posted by: Yossarian at September 22, 2009 9:49 PM

By the way, MM, I'm drinking Syrah.

Posted by: Three-nineteen at September 22, 2009 9:49 PM

Wow! Civil. Thoughtful. Smart.

I fucking love you guys. Except the spambot.

Thank you.

Posted by: Dustin Rowles at September 22, 2009 9:54 PM

Maybe it's the influence of the movie, Dustin. We all want to smoke and be classy tonight.

The subversion comes later.

Posted by: myysharona (formerly Sharon) at September 22, 2009 9:56 PM

Three-nineteen,

I'm actually on the West Coast and still at work. I'm drinking Diet Coke. [sad face]

myysharona,

It does seem the pendulum has swung completely the other way. In the GN&GL era, you have a reporter/media person worried about losing his career and reputation because he has displeased someone in the government. Today, the media has all the power, and our government officials quake in fear of the slightest media disapproval, which could lead to them being out on their asses in a hot minute. Which is incredibly unfortunate, because it seems to prevent them from actually accomplishing anything.

Posted by: MM at September 22, 2009 10:00 PM

But the spambot got me thinking about my combat index. I'm sure it's well over 5000.

I thought that the suicide was another way to show the immense pressures that everyone was under during the McCarthy era. Here is Murrow, battling a man that could destroy your family, livelihood, and reputation as an American citizen based on his whims and insane rules of conduct. The criticism driving the other man to suicide also showed how strong Murrow was in his convictions and how he may have easily fallen into the same fate.

Posted by: Pinky McLadybits at September 22, 2009 10:01 PM

Without trying to touch off a political argument...

A lot of people are quick to say that current events are just like the ones depicted in the film. I actually had some trouble relating the events of the film to real life. The reality of what went on under McCarthy and the red scare is so extreme that it is hard to really relate to.

I don't think it's the same thing as current smear and scare tactics in the constant bickering between sides... maybe the Justice department flap or Valarie Plame under W. but even that was small scale compared to the events this film is portraying. There was real fear and rampant paranoia. People's lives were being ruined. It was out of control. Sean Penn may be scorned by Fox News now but nobody is blacklisting him or kicking him out of the country.

It can be taken as an indictment of the media, a reminder of how far they've fallen from the ideals espoused by Murrow, a critique on how journalistic integrity is in the toilet.

I hope it isn't received as merely another stone in the back-and-forth smearing between left and right, because that would cheapen the source material (and I hope it wasn't meant as that... if this was just a middle finger to Fox News by Clooney that's probably not a good thing)

Posted by: Yossarian at September 22, 2009 10:02 PM

I'm glad I got to watch this movie again. I forgot how much I like it.

I wonder if Marrows didn't speak up against McCarthy would we have the Daily Show and Colbert Report today. We probably wouldn't have most of the programming on the Fox News stations, which wouldn't be a bad thing.

I've actually watched parts of Marrows See It Now, and I think Clooney and Strathairn do an excellent job capturing the tone.

Re: RDJ & Patricia Clarkson marriage

They had to keep the marriage a secret because of CBS network regulations banning co-workers being married.

Posted by: DoubleH at September 22, 2009 10:02 PM

MM,
Could you say, then, that Murrow was too successful? Or that the temptation to abuse power remains no matter who is handling it?

Posted by: myysharona (formerly Sharon) at September 22, 2009 10:03 PM

Sorry for my short random thoughts...I'm cooking dinner right now.

Posted by: DoubleH at September 22, 2009 10:06 PM

There are some elements in this film that I admire and respect. That being said, I tried to get into this movie for the second time and I just couldn't do it. Its weird because I find the plot and content very interesting but the way its played out is so dry, I just couldn't stay interested. I don't know if it was a good thing or a bad thing that the characters and plot carried on like real life. No build-up of dramatic tension, no suspense, no powerful score behind a powerful climax... watching it felt like reading an old, dusty periodical you found at the library. Its not that it was a bad movie, or poorly written or anything. It just didn't do anything for me. I found it painfully dull and I never want to see it again. I thought that maybe watching it tonight for the sake of Pajiba Movie Club, I could have a better chance to get into it because I'm watching it for a purpose. Not happening. To me, this movie was boring as shit.

Posted by: bubblegumshoe at September 22, 2009 10:07 PM

Yossarian, I think the Ray Wise character may be a commentary about how powerful the newspapers/media are (or were), and how you can try to use it for good (Murrow) or evil (Hearst). The fact that he can't do anything about the relentless persecution of him, and he tries to get Murrow to help and Murrow says he can't take on McCarthy and Hearst at the same time, etc. I wonder if there are deleted scenes that explain a little more?

OK, I'm tired of providing thought-provoking insight. Is it possible that RDJ looks even hotter in black and white than he does in color? I mean, DAMN.

Posted by: Three-nineteen at September 22, 2009 10:07 PM

Hey Rowles, are you just going to sit there and moderate or are you going to weigh in? You picked this one after all.

Posted by: Yossarian at September 22, 2009 10:08 PM

Yossarian, the only thing I will say in response to your comment about things in the '50s being more extreme and scary than today is that it only counts if you are talking about the lives of Americans.

Anyway, I also think Dustin needs to weigh in on this movie. Dustin, thoughts?

Posted by: Three-nineteen at September 22, 2009 10:16 PM

The side stories were a weakness. I do believe they were necessary to fill out the narrative (otherwise it pretty much would have been a History Channel doc), I just think they were weak.

Posted by: Yossarian at September 22, 2009 10:17 PM

I disagree with whoever said there was no tension in the movie. Murrow's career and reputation hung in the balance - he lost one and kept the other.

That was me - and I said I didn't feel the tension. I get what was at stake for everyone, and I wanted to feel the tension, suspense, anticipation. For me personally, it didn't happen.

Yossarian, have you read about Siebel Edmonds? And what of all the people deemed to be terrorists under the last administration. I think we've had our share of fear, paranoia and peoples' lives being ruined.

Posted by: Cindy at September 22, 2009 10:19 PM

Three-nineteen- Oh, absolutely. I completely agree that there are events in other countries that make McCarthyism look tame.

I was merely referring to my generation in the US. History and perspective have kind of made this one black & white. McCarthy = bad; Murrow = good; championing freedom & integrity > exploiting fear & paranoia.

Maybe that's another thing that hurts this film... It is interesting, but it loses something because the characters are too good and evil. There is no real complexity there. Murrow is a hero standing for truth, justice, and the American way. There is no conflict. He takes a stand and rides it to the inevitable. It's like "A Man for All Seasons" An important morality play with a message, a good history lesson, but a less than compelling story.

Posted by: Yossarian at September 22, 2009 10:27 PM

myysharona,

I would say the temptation to abuse power is ever-present, and the ability to use fear to gain power ramps to a fever pitch at certain times. In the 1950s, the communists provided that fear. (Rather baselessly, in hindsight.) Now, the "terrorists" provide the fear, with a very tangible base behind it (the tragedy of 9/11).

Yossarian,

I'm curious. I honestly don't mean this to attack you or your beliefs, whatever they may be, but I'm puzzled by both your posts here and in the Darwin movie thread. In both places, you seem to argue that other commenters are disproportionately alarmed by the issues being discussed. So what issues, in your opinion, merit serious alarm in society today?

You argue (in the Darwin thread) that Creationists are such a small minority and their opinions will never take hold and get evolution out of curriculum, etc. Coincidentally, I just happened to see this today:

Kirk Cameron claims that Darwin's "Origin of Species" inspired Hitler

If "they" (I don't know who to single out without offending anybody, but I would say right-wing extremists) can succeed in convincing even a small but vocal minority of individuals that providing health care to everyone is somehow "Hitler-esque", they can surely convince people that evolution is of the Devil and must be thrown out everywhere.

You argue here that (in Murrow's time), "There was real fear and rampant paranoia. People's lives were being ruined. It was out of control." Then you indicate that you think today's fear-mongering, etc. is not in the same league. Is there not real fear and rampant paranoia today? Are passengers not getting kicked off of airplanes just for "looking like Arabs"? Mosques are still getting vandalized. Valerie Plame's life was certainly ruined. What about prisoners in Guantanamo Bay? There are people who've been locked up there for years with no charges, no evidence, just an accusation (much like the Red Scare era). They're being tortured and held without trial. Aren't their lives ruined?

Again, I'm not trying to argue against whatever your beliefs are on these subjects. I'm just confused as to why you don't think these are really, really serious issues.

And with that, as I said, I'm still at work, so I must go home (and off the computer).

Dustin, what are your criteria for the Movie Club being a success? Number of comments? Number of distinct participators? Quality of comments? Like I said, I didn't watch the movie [whimper whimper don't hurt me], but I want the Movie Club to continue.

Posted by: MM at September 22, 2009 10:31 PM

No, Yossarian, I mean what the-greatest-country-on-Earth-can-do-no-wrong-shining-city-on-a-hill-America is currently doing to people who aren't American citizens (and one who is - remember Jose Padilla?).

I think you need to remember that at the time, it may have not been too clear at all that Murrow was a hero standing up for what's right - we can only see that through hindsight. And he didn't always stand up for what's right, which is probably what the Ray Wise suicide storyline was all about (hey, I learned something from this discussion!)

Posted by: Three-nineteen at September 22, 2009 10:35 PM

I really love this movie (and i think I'm late to the fun -- sorry. I have seen it several times because I was a journalism student so they played it in the classrooms a lot. But I've also rewatched it on my own time, and I enjoy everything about it.

The black and white photography didn't bother me because everything was beautifully shot and framed, and most importantly, the story was so compelling. I thought every aspect of this film was perfect.

Some people mentioned whether if the married couple was essential to the story, and I really thought it was. I mean, you not only got to see how powerful the red fear was for corporate interests (through the conversations with Murrow and his boss and George Clooney's character) you also got to see how it affected people personally, and how that fear of being targeted and how McCarthy's witch hunt was frightening to the average citizen.

As for the guy committing suicide, I read that in reality, it actually happened a lot later in the timeline, like after the whole McCarthy fight. But Clooney decided to add it in for dramatic effect, which worked out for me, because (as someone pointed up above) the guy was being persecuted and he couldn't do anything about it.

ok i love this movie. that is all.

Posted by: dene at September 22, 2009 10:36 PM

Late to the party but chiming in because I want us to do this again. I think a lot of what I liked about this movie was that it didn't try to impose too much of our viewpoint on the events of that era. We live in a much more cynical age; we don't automatically believe our politicians or our journalists. As a student of history, I appreciate that the past is viewed through our modern-day lenses, and that our prejudices and opinions cannot be completely cast aside. I enjoyed the fact that the story was told as cleanly as it was, considering how we tend to shape history, especially in films, according to current situations.

Posted by: dawn at September 22, 2009 10:39 PM

Dawn,

..thats an interesting insight. I haven't looked at it that way. I still hate this movie but I respect your observation.

Posted by: bubblegumshoe at September 22, 2009 10:45 PM

Ack! How did it get to be 10:30?! I mean, I got a late start, but this is ridiculous!

Anyway. This is the first time I've watched this film. It's been one of those "wow, everybody says this movie is great, and I'm really interested in the subject, so I'll really have to check it out!" that then turns into excuses not to watch and "I have to be in the mood for that kind of thing" and never getting around to it. So, I'm grateful to have had this opportunity to make myself watch it. Thanks, Pajiba and Yossarian!

I'm particularly grateful because I really liked it. I definitely appreciated the use of black & white and the pacing of it; of course, I do in general love slower-paced b&w films. I did get the tension of it, mainly from Strathairn. He did an amazing job of conveying a man who knew what had to be done, despite the cost not just to him, but to those around him, and how hard it has to be to make a decision like that. How hard it is to do the right thing. And to continue to do the right thing, even in the face of negative criticism. I was a little ... mmm, weirded out? I guess? ... by the side stories at first (the secret marriage people and the suicide of the protege), but in reflecting upon that, I think I agree that the suicide story was there to emphasize the price Murrow paid for sticking to his guns. The married couple, I think, were maybe the audience's way in? For me, they represented the average American, who was in no danger of being called before the HUAC, but still had significant obstacles to overcome which were a product of the time. (I'm not explaining this very well, my words seem to have left me. Give me time and sleep and I'll come back to it. I got myself un-weirded out by them, is what I'm saying.)

Posted by: Anna von Beaverplatz at September 22, 2009 10:52 PM

This was, to me, a beautifully crafted movie -- I (like most of you) loved the actual footage of McCarthy.

More than that, though, it seemed that there was a certain feel of the film -- an air of commitment to the storytelling and an almost leisurely pace. It felt like my grandfather was telling me an especially thought-provoking bedtime story. It's comforting. Yet, within that, there's something that, to me (maybe because I'm supernerdy) is gripping and very tense. It was a dichotomy of tone that I very much enjoyed experiencing.

Posted by: esme at September 22, 2009 10:56 PM

bubblegumshoe,

Thank you. I understand why someone could hate this movie, it is very specifically focused (and my husband absolutely agrees with you). Cheers to rational discussion!

Posted by: dawn at September 22, 2009 10:59 PM

The artistic decision I really like is the shot framing of during the broadcasts, watching Murrow live and seeing his image at the same time on the TV monitor above his head, almost mimicking him as he spoke. It was kind of like seeing him as he really was and seeing him as the TV audience saw him. I found it very compelling, although I either don't know why or can't articulate it.

I think this is a very good first effort for the Pajiba Movie Club and hope that it continues. Now I have to come back to reality, by which I mean stop drinking because I have to work tomorrow.

Posted by: Three-nineteen at September 22, 2009 11:00 PM

Mmm. And while I was busy with my idiotic blather, I forgot to say that yes, I agree with the preference of the historical footage of McCarthy to an actor's portrayal. And the framing of the film was beautifully done.

And dene said, much more coherently, what I was feeling about the married couple.

Posted by: Anna von Beaverplatz at September 22, 2009 11:07 PM

Oh dear. That was certainly in my top 20 most pretentious writings. I guess the film class I took last year (post-WWII German Cinema -- it was EXCELLENT) has made me into a film snob. At least I didn't used the word Tarquinian. It's my new favorite.

Posted by: esme at September 22, 2009 11:09 PM

Actually, I thought it was lovely, esme. (Although, I have to say, I'm also glad you didn't use Tarquinian...)

Posted by: Anna von Beaverplatz at September 22, 2009 11:16 PM

Oh, and now I've seen all the 2006 Best Picture Nominees, and Crash is definitely one of the worst picks ever. I would rank it last amongst all the nominees, plus a few that weren't nominated. I think I ranked it last even before I saw all the movies; now my prejudices are confirmed.

Posted by: Three-nineteen at September 22, 2009 11:17 PM

Well, I saw this movie a few years ago, and I meant to rewatch it for tonight's discussion... but I didn't. (Man, you guys give me ONE assignment and I fail to do it!)

But what I remember most about the movie is how it made me feel. This is one of those movies that inspired me. It made me want to stand up for what is right... in this case, it made me want to fight for the truth. I'm easily roused like that, even if that wasn't Clooney's intent.

I loved that the movie was shot in B&W. The use of actual footage of McCarthy was a great choice, and I thought the overall cast was strong.

esme - I totally agree about the dichotomy of tone. I like your description of the movie as a bedtime story... I can imagine a grandfather telling the tale, but I picture him smoking while he tells it.

Murrow's words about the "fat" media... they were so prescient, weren't they? He would surely be disgusted with today's tv journalists... I can't imagine what he'd think of the internet!

Posted by: MelBivDevoe at September 22, 2009 11:18 PM

...and my ramblings have killed this lovely discussion.

Posted by: MelBivDevoe at September 22, 2009 11:46 PM

Nah Mel, I think everyone just went to bed. I'm in a different time zone, and thus am at work in the middle of the day. Weird how that works...

A suggestion for next time: Maybe have the discussion on a Friday or the weekend so everyone can stay up a bit longer.

Posted by: Kurdt at September 22, 2009 11:52 PM

There's a movie club?!?!?!


Fuck this secret, elitist, BULLSHIT.

You wanna know who had secret hipster movie clubs?

Stalin.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at September 23, 2009 12:12 AM

Three-nineteen

Good call on the use of framing there, I hadn't thought about it until you mentioned it (which is a testament to the craft). I love talking about neat shots and good framing. Any other examples?

Posted by: myysharona (formerly Sharon) at September 23, 2009 12:29 AM

The situations may be different, but how could the parallels be more obvious? Paranoia and fear make putty of populations, be it falsely accusing dissenting figures of communism or hyping up the terror threat to sell an unjustifiable war. Came through pretty loud and clear to me.

The “deification” of Murrow:
If the focus were on the life and times of E.R Murrow then it fell abysmally short, however this wasn’t a Murrow biopic. It focussed on a particularly moment in US social history, viewed through the lens of the only news organization to take a clear eyed view of what was happening (the contrast to the almost universally question-free MSM post-911, pre Iraq is no less striking). Seen in this light, the celebratory tone of Murrow et al’s deeds is entirely appropriate. Unless of course mores have shifted and standing up to manipulative fear-mongering is no longer laudable, in which case I am clearly out of touch.

The performances were terrific, particularly Strathairn & Langella and Clooney lowered his celebrity wattage perfectly for his role. The only element of the story that didn’t work for me was the suicide and the secret marriage. While I understand the subtext they were intended to provide, they still felt tacked on. Minor quibbles though, overall I thought it acheived it's purpose with impressive subtlety.

Posted by: Squirrelgripper at September 23, 2009 12:34 AM

myysharona (and others),

I haven't gotten back to you with my thoughts on the question I posed because I've been away from the computer.

Excuses aside, I can't help but agree with you. When the movie came out, there were stories going around about how the biggest complaint from some viewers was "the guy they got to play McCarthy hammed it up a bit too much." I LOVE that. I think the archival footage make him that much more frightening, and the problem that much more real.

I also want to say, just as a side note, that this film has one of the best and most effective trailers I've ever seen, and all without the use of a pop or post-rock* song.

*think Explosions in the Sky/Sigur Ros

Posted by: Kevin Longrie at September 23, 2009 1:23 AM

Kevin Longrie, what you said about McCarthy hamming it up cracked me up.

Also, TV news have become absolute, absolute shit. I cannot watch it without cringing. (See: Deusexmalcontent and the Daily Show! haha) MelBivDevoe I imagine that Murrow might shake his head disapprovingly at us now and deliver an impassioned speech, and all Americans think is, "Who is this angry dude?" That's why I love this movie so much - it completely inspires me and reminds me what I love about journalism.

Also, I'm still awake and it's eastern time for me here haha. But I stayed up to watch The Unforgiven, that Clint Eastwood movie. It was pretty good but I have so many questions/thoughts on it - can that be a movie club movie please?

Posted by: dene at September 23, 2009 1:47 AM

I saw this movie in the theater, and I recall I liked it very much. I also recall leaving the theater with the MOTHER of all jonzes for a cigarette.
I quit smoking in 1998.

Posted by: Lindsey with an 'e' at September 23, 2009 1:49 AM

dene, the way I read it (from wikipedia), the suicide came at the correct point in the timeline, it was Murrow's rebuttal to McCarthy's appearance that happened later...about two months after the newscaster's suicide.

Posted by: Munkymack at September 23, 2009 3:04 AM

So, hey, yeah, Germans ante portas at last.
I love this movie and they are a few things that haven't been mentioned so far, so I'll share them even if my comments are the equivalent of washing up alone in the kitchen after the party.
I understand why it's a clever thing to use McCarthy himself and agree fully. However the extent to which archive footage was used, showing us almost 3 entire programms in not more than perhaps 95 minutes is what may have made the movie seem boring to some.
I, myself enjoyed the chemistry in the newsroom much more. The tension was very palpable to me and I love the scene with the switched off telephones. The dialogue and acting were supreme, I think.
From what I gather from your comments, the suicide storyline is based on true facts (I am not that well acquainted with the Murrow affair as an American should be). In the context of the movie I thought it was quite believable. Someone asked if it was the criticism that broke the fellow but I think it as mentiond somewhere in the movie that he had essentially lost his reputtion (not sure about the job) and that his wife had left him after that. However, I think that in the context of the movie, it was a very predictale event. The moment Cloone picked up the phone and looked down I knew it was Don and that he had left for good of his own accord. I'm still not sure if this is a good thing or not. One can argue that it is a rather cheap move to highlight this story to get us to identify but it can also be said that Clooney obviously did a good job in foreshadowing the darkness.

Posted by: The Gemeinderat at September 23, 2009 7:52 AM

Good morning, and good luck . (Maybe 9:00pm is a bit late to start a serious discussion?) And maybe there will be some next-day follow up so I'll keep it going for our German & international friends.

I liked the way shots were framed to give you the behind-the-scenes view of Murrow with the TV view contained in the frame as well. Very effective. I also noticed the way the sound would drop out and only the voice of Murrow or McCarthy would be heard while the action shifted to people scurrying around the newsroom. This, too, was effective at drawing you into the world of the newsmen (and breaking up a very speech-heavy movie with at least the allusion of activity).

The whole story, as I remember, was told from that perspective. When news broke in the outside world it was conveyed as interruption and breathless reading of a telegram. The reaction of the American public was gauged by taking phone calls after the show and reading the editorials in next mornings newspaper (btw, were they all supposed to be still up at 3am or whenever the papers come out, wearing suits and drinking scotch in an empty bar? Those scenes made me want to be a newsman in the 50s.) Even McCarthy's scenes and the Army-McCarthy hearings were included in this way, being watched on a monitor at the CBS television studio.

Re: The political points
Mea culpa if I went too far or downplayed some of the more serious issues surrounding this film. I blame it on rushing to stoke the discussion with half-thought out reactions; the pressures of a real-time movie club.

I really did have difficulty relating personally to McCarthyism and the climate of the 1950s. I think that the freedoms of press and information now go far beyond what existed at that time and with the ability of anyone to publish or communicate (especially with the internet) it's hard to empathize with a time when you couldn't speak out publicly. I realize that decision of the filmmakers to make this movie in 2004/5 is meant to directly comment on the war on terror, the abuses of human rights/ due process and the 'for us or against us' mentality that emerged in the wake of 9-11. (I'm actually surprised more of the discussion didn't focus on these topics since that seemed to be the point of this movie.) I don't disagree or downplay the seriousness of these issues. If we watch Taxi to the Darkside I would probably be lighting the torches or gathering the pitchforks with you- that is some scary, shameful stuff.

If I can clarify (or retract) my statements above I think what I was meaning to say is I don't think the points this movie was making should be applied too broadly. It's tempting to look for parallels everywhere and find modern-day McCarthys where there is just a windbag. Yeah, it probably wasn't too well thought out on my part and I'm thankful for the very reasonable, civilized responses. I am not now, nor have I ever been a republican (well... maybe I went to some meetings)

The evolutions stuff, while off topic here, probably stems from the same impulse to argue against people I agree with when I feel like they are overstating their (our) case. Like most of the crazies in the evolution thread, Kirk Cameron is a loon who is going to get heckled to death if he takes his shtick to college campuses, then he will go home licking his wounds feeling the like martyred hero. I still don't think the actions of the vocal minority justifies some of the 'us against them' statements that subject provokes. I think there are extremists on both sides and I think that we've come a long way from 1925.

Well, that should have been broken up into at least two comments. sorry for writing a frickin' book on you, Pajiba.

Posted by: Yossarian at September 23, 2009 7:54 AM

is mentioned, reputation, predictable, what else?

Posted by: The Gemeinderat at September 23, 2009 7:59 AM

I was just telling mr.wsapnin last night that we need to see this movie (Strathairn was on my telly). Looks like it was meant to be. I've never seen it, so we'll give it a looksee.

Posted by: wsapnin at September 23, 2009 8:52 AM

"At long last,Sir. Have you no decency?" This was said by Joseph Welch who played the judge in Anatomy of a Murder.

Posted by: Arkansan at September 23, 2009 9:15 AM

If you guys liked this movie, there is a similar Australian film from 1978, Newsfront.

Newsfront is about Australian fallout of McCarthyism on Australia. The interesting part is, rather than looking at heroic newsman, the men in this movie are heroic editors. Their clever editing commicates that their media voice is repressed, so essentially they use their secret cinematic langauge, which they hope the higher powers will overlook, as a rally point.

Great film.

Posted by: Gigi at September 23, 2009 9:42 AM

and ponies too.

Posted by: Gigi at September 23, 2009 9:43 AM

I, personally, loved the married couple storyline. The fact that at the beginning we didn't know what secret exactly they had/why they were keeping it, started me guessing about their past: communist links, unresolved marriages from the past... In the beginning I even wondered if Clarkson wasn't in fact Don's ex. The innocent nature of the problem was a really ironic way of showing the paranoia and how it can affect anyone. Even me, get it?
And these people, the team, feel like they're fighting the world together, in an enclosed enlightened envronment at CBS (felt like this was shown beautifully in the scene at the bar) but RDJ and Clarkson don't even trust their own mates. Not only that, everyone seems to know but no one mentions it in front of the others. Not even Murrows and Friendly dare to talk to each other about it until the whole thing blows.
From personal experience I can state that the paranoid feel that makes you question your own friends is the most excruciating experience for a normal citizen in a totalitarian society. I think this storyline demonstrated how close America was in this era to becoming one.

Posted by: The Gemeinderat at September 23, 2009 9:57 AM

Re: political points

The problem with not relating to the fear of the American population in the movie may be because the time period is too late. McCarthyism had its roots in real concerns about Soviet spies in the government in the '40s, (quickly checks Wikipedia) with Alger Hiss being caught. If you equate now with the 1940s, you can see the movie as a possible future for us.

Post WW2 timeline:

1940s: Soviet spy caught! Soviets are Communist.
Early 1950s: If Soviets are Communist, and Soviets are bad, it follows that all Communists are potentially bad and anyone who is communist is compromised and may inadvertently hurt us if they know important information. Just in the government, though, because the government is important.
Mid 1950's: Anyone who is communist or knows a communist or can spell communist is bad and must be stopped.

Post 9/11 timeline:

2001: Terrorists attacked us! Terrorists are Muslim.
Mid-2000s: If the terrorists are Muslim, and terrorists are bad, it follows that all Muslims are potentially bad and anyone who is Muslim may want to hurt America, so we need to protect ourselves against them by any means necessary. Just non-citizen Muslims, though - Muslims who are American citizens are protected by American law. (Except for Jose Padilla. I actually heard pundits say he should lose his citizenship and the protection of American law because he's a traitor).
Early 2010s: ?

Posted by: Three-nineteen at September 23, 2009 10:16 AM

Good points from The Gemeinderat and others re: the RDJ/Clarkson marriage. Maybe one reason this subplot didn't work for me is because I clearly recall it being revealed in the Ebert review which I read before I actually saw the film.

The movie is entirely, almost claustrophobically, about politics and the news business. Even its single subplot underlines the atmosphere of the times. We meet Shirley and Joe Wershba (Patricia Clarkson and Robert Downey Jr.), who work for CBS News and keep their marriage a secret, because company policy forbids the employment of married couples. Their clandestine meetings and subtle communications raise our own suspicions, and demonstrate in a way how McCarthyism works. (-Ebert, 10/21/05)

As a result, there was no suspense or uncertainty in these scenes when I watched them, it was 'oh, there's Robert Downey Jr, he's married to that woman against company policy, what an odd and antiquated concept.' And even though Ebert does identify the important themes these scenes are meant to convey by having them spoiled before hand they are robbed of their power. I'm reminded of my initial post in the suggestion thread- "They are spoiler conscious (even though they usually put their clumsy fingerprints all over your viewing experience anyway)"

(Gemeinderat, I'm here for you as promised, nearly 11am and avoiding office responsibilities. Maybe you should get to pick not only the film but the time for the next meet; it couldn't be much worse than 90 minutes before everyone's bedtime like this one)

Posted by: Yossarian at September 23, 2009 10:49 AM

I unabashedly love this film. I was amazed that George Clooney could direct something like this after Confessions of a Dangerous Mind. (I HATED Confessions so much, I remember suggesting to a friend that George Clooney be "anally handicapped" for making such a bad film. I have since forgiven him, and have become a huge fan of his, but I digress.)

The movie plays like a jazz tune: hitting all the notes perfectly, knowing when to wail and when to merely punctuate, and rounding back to the head of the tune in the end in order to close it properly. The drama in the newsroom, thankfully, never gets to histrionic levels. No one really shouts, no one demands "the truth" at the top of their lungs, and the battle itself is waged with measured and deliberate actions. Even the suicide of Don Hollenbeck (the reaction and the event itself), which could have been played for melodramatic beats in lesser hands, come across as tragic but not overly so.

The sobering fact of it all is Murrow saw where we were heading, just as Paddy Chayefsky saw where we were heading in his satire, Network (which would make a perfect companion/bookend with Good Night, and Good Luck). Both tried to warn us about what television would do in the hands of corporations, as well as what television would do to us if we let it. We as a collective society sank into that complacency because we were just too damn tired of looking in the mirror and not liking what we saw. We wanted to look better, feel better, and we didn't want to work hard to do it in the world of reality, so we let sureality take its place. Thankfully, not all of us are at that point (or at the very least we're more refined in our sureality) and as such there are those of us who still enjoy something like this over something stupid like Transformers 2.

Final note: I'd like to nominate this movie for "Best Cast of Actors Who Look Awesome in Black and White".

Posted by: Doctor Controversy at September 23, 2009 11:09 AM

Is it too late to join the party? I just wanted to comment on MM's comment that the media has all of the power now, leaving government officials quaking in fear. I don't think this is the case at all. I think the media has been severely weakened by the control politicians have over who has access to them and who doesn't. Journalists have to tread carefully lest they lose access to a press pool, or don't get called on during press briefings and come away without their own quote to rehash to death for the next week. Plus there's the worry that the current batch of crazies will accuse them of bias in their reporting, bringing on a potential boycott of their newscasts. Both of these scenarios can result in declining ratings, which leads to loss of sponsorship and declining revenues. And that is what drives our media coverage right now. This is why we have such bland news coverage anymore, with little in depth reporting of our most pressing issues. It's why Bush was allowed to go on with his antics, and Jon Stewart gained such a following. I think we're in a current phase of great misinformation, and it's being done on purpose. That's my own conspiracy theory.

Posted by: katy at September 23, 2009 5:10 PM

It's both comforting and sad to realize that the fight of the purpose of news-whether or not it should inform or entertain-is more than 50 years old. Hell, I stopped going to the afternoon editorial meetings at work because I couldn't take the inanity. The news should not be an entertainment program. It's our job (that is, people involved in news media outlets) to provide information to the public, whatever the subject may be. That product isn't always going to be the flashiest, most light-hearted thing. The former news director at my station liked to ask, "How can we make this sexy?" Bullshit. And the story, no matter what, should be clear, concise, and to-the-point, something Murrow and company excelled at. Those were (or are) people I admire, and inspire to emulate.

Posted by: Nadha at September 23, 2009 10:01 PM

Oh, and Good Night, and Good Luck is a damn fine movie.

Posted by: Nadha at September 23, 2009 10:07 PM


















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