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What the hell is an independent film? It’s kind of like the Pop/Rock section of the chain store music sections. It’s a broad umbrella that covers a lot of ground. An independent film used to mean any small film not made by the studios, but now all the major studios have their own independent arms. It used to mean films that played only at tiny LA/NY theatre chains and film festivals, but now Sundance and South by Southwest, and even Fantastic Fest have become early way stations for studios to give filmmakers major releases. With the dawning of digital film, easy access to home computing editing software, and Netflix and YouTube, anyone can make a movie and get it out there for people to see. For my purposes, I defined independent film as a small, lower budget film that touches you on a personal level and speaks only to you. Unlike their bigger bloated cousins, independent films take risks, tell smaller stories, and dance to their own unique spirit. I know that sounds like a brochure for a commune, but well, I like it here.

As the resident indie jeebus of Pajiba, my reviews tend to be of movies that most people will rarely see in an actual theater. I prefer that. I like independent films. I hate formula. I don’t care if that makes me a hipster, or a snob, or uncomfortable at family gatherings. The little pictures mean something. Someone worked even harder to get that picture made. You can see their blood, their sweat, their tears, and their demolished credit cards. Indiana Jones and Star Wars made me love movies, but it was Swingers and Clerks that made me want to become a filmmaker. I thought, “I can do that.” That speaks to me. Those are the kind of films I want to make. Sure, it might never end up on a Slurpee cup, but someone, somewhere is going to buy that movie, show it to all their friends, and love it forever. While someone else is going to hate it with a fiery passion.

Independent film has been blossoming in the last several years, not just in quality, but in quantity. It’s like kudzu. If you look over all of our lists, you’ll see indies represented on every list. So that made the writing of this list particularly difficult. I mean, my number one choice is everyone’s number one choice. So it’s not on here. The original draft of this list had forty choices, and I added ten more while I was typing it up. I tore it down to a solid twenty, I kept cutting and pasting and swapping, and it was like trying to pick which child has to die. I’m still not happy with my list. I wanted to originally fill this list with movies that are cult classics, and then I wanted to represent it with Independent Spirit award winners and festival favorites. I even begged for help from the other writers.

Then I thought, fuck it. This isn’t going to be Pajiba’s Top Ten Indies. This isn’t going to even be your choices. This is going to be my indie list; Brian Prisco’s choices. These are the eleven films that meant something to me this past decade. You aren’t going to like it. You’ll probably think a bunch of them are self-indulgent overrated tripe. You’ll be horrified your favorite isn’t on there. And that’s the beauty of independent films. They shouldn’t be universally loved and adored. They should be what speaks to you. So I fully expect and welcome you to add your own favorites to the comments below. And it’s with a heavy heart I have to discount Son of Rambow, Once, The Wackness, Hedwig and the Angry Inch, Chuck & Buck, Session 9, Ghost World, and Donnie Darko. Enjoy. You won’t.

drug_addiction_6.jpg11. Requiem for a Dream (2000): Darren Aronofsky burrowed a hole in the minds of viewers with his brain-melting Pi. He then made good use of that hole by skull fucking the wound with a curling iron and cauterizing it permanently open with this scarring portrayal of the dangers of drug use. Narcotics are a popular demon in independent film, but after enduring this, everything else is like an afterschool special on Sesame Street. It’s bleak, it’s horrifying, and it’s devastating — and like anything this personal, it stays with you. It doesn’t preach; it just brands the message in your grey matter for all time. It narrowly, and deservedly, should have won an Oscar for Ellen Burstyn. It made Jennifer Connelly Oscar-worthy, and it showed that Jared Leto and Marlon Wayans could act. Aronofsky proved to me he had a voice with Pi, but with Requiem, he showed it was a voice worth listening to.

18476727w434hq80ig8.jpg10. The Woodsman (2004): Lolita is my favorite book of all time, because it fooled me into rooting for a pedophile. It’s not difficult to make a child molester unlikable, and most are portrayed as slavering ghouls — horrible twisted freaks who lurk under bridges to violate our most innocent. Even hardened criminals won’t think twice about slitting molester’s throats, while getting cheered on by Sunday school teachers who refuse to curse or eat shellfish. But Nicole Kassell’s debut film, based on the haunting play by Steven Fechter, gives us a hero who’s a monster. Kevin Bacon’s Walter is a bad man trying to redeem himself. But he can’t. He knows he’s a monster, and even when he tries to do good, it’s in a bad way. He’s stalked by an obsessed detective (Mos Def, at his absolute best), who’s just waiting until Walter makes a tiny mistake so he can throw him in the darkest hole forever. It doesn’t offer any easy answers and refuses to fall into cliche, which is why I eagerly await what Nicole can bring us next.

garden_state_wideweb__430x285.jpg9. Garden State (2004): It might not have changed your life, but it changed mine. It might be overly precious and insanely hipstery, with the wallpaper shirts and crazy girls preaching the gospel of the Shins, but it was a love story told to me at the loneliest and most confusing point of my life to date. Zach Braff’s tale of a twenty-nothing who runs to California on a dream, never to have it fulfilled, only to slink home for his mother’s funeral and to the friends and father he abandoned, said something to me. We spend most of our life wasting it. Every love we encounter should shake us like a snowglobe, change us irrevocably, make us want to be a different, if not always better person, and scare the shit out of us. If you can’t look past the wearing of the trashbags and screaming into a hole to the reason WHY they are doing that, that’s your problem. If you’re satisfied with your lot in life, if you don’t think you can do any better than where you are right now, if you don’t have miles to go before you sleep, and don’t want to bother trying to rebuild bridges that might have burnt down, that’s cool. Me, I still want more.

secretary460.jpg8. Secretary (2002): To call this a quirky and non-traditional romantic comedy is to wipe barbecue sauce off your mouth with a ballgown. Secretary is everything opportunity afforded by independent film done exquisitely. It deals with uncomfortabe topics like bondage and domination and self-mutilation with love and irreverent humor. It’s never made fun of, but it’s never treated like a sacred cow. The entire film is unusual and daring, because it doesn’t make the forbidden unforgivable or sinful. Maggie Gyllenhaal and James Spader are delightful as the lawyer and the woman who understands him in this dark — and strangely endearing — comic study of love and power.

stationagent-1.jpg7. The Station Agent (2003): If you don’t know the name Thomas McCarthy, you’re missing out. He’s not just a terrific actor, but an outstanding and understated writer-director. I think it’s because he’s an established and talented actor himself that he allows his performers to just perform. His films are deceptively simple and seemingly basic, but the performances are so powerful. The Station Agent is very simply the story of a dwarf (Peter Dinklage) who wants to be left alone and a hot dog vendor (Bobby Cannavale) who won’t let him. It’s a study of what it means to be lonely, without getting into existentialist navel-gazing or moralizing or philosophizing. The story is in the characters, and if you consider yourself a serious writer, you will watch this film and learn how to do it right.

2003_bubba_hotep_004.jpg6. Bubba Ho-Tep (2002): This is a ridiculous film. An elderly Elvis Presley and JFK in the body of a wheelchair bound black man are forced to battle a resurrected mummy preying on their fellow nursing home attendants by sucking their souls out of their buttholes. It’s pure B-movie, shot on a shoe-string by Don Coscarelli, famous for directing the Phantasm films. The rights to just one Elvis song would have cost them over half the budget of the entire film. It’s done with proper over the top humor, cheap gore and schlocky hamming, but truthfully, it’s extremely smart and astonishingly poignant. You never know if what you are seeing is true, whether these men are who they say they are, or if they are even actually battling an undead ass-to-mouth soulfficianado. Bruce Campbell and Ossie Davis are genuinely heartbreaking, which has an added degree of difficulty when you’re doing so playing such off-the-wall caricatures. Aside from the cornball antics of the overplot, the film is actually a serious study on what it means to become old and forgotten. It demonstrates that even the most zany premise can be layered with heart and thought.

281x211.jpg5. Brick (2005): Rian Johnson’s debut re-imagines a gritty crime noir in a high school setting. Redoing older stories for teens is nothing new; crafting a Shakespearean plot in Converse sneakers has become its own genre. But Brick astounds because Johnson keeps the gin-mill language and nicknames while using a cast of teens. It’s mindboggling that it works, and it may seem gimmicky, but he clings to the conceit and keeps it fresh by actually having a seriously splendid murder mystery to tack his talents to. It’s Dashiel Hammett at Dawson’s Creek, without seeming cheesy. Adapting clever slang for high school students can be tricky, and giving them a patois that smacks of prohibition is a risky choice, but Johnson pulls it off with panache. The young cast, particularly stars Joseph Gordon-Levitt and Lukas Haas, make it work.

bzz9h.jpg4. Primer (2004): Shane Carruth gives us a true indie masterpiece — a science-fiction time-travel study with special effects all occurring in the subconscious of the viewer. It was shot for a pittance — something like $7,000, edited on the writer-director-star’s computer, and the forced sparsity gives the film a stylistic edge. By calling Primer a time-travel picture I’m giving away so much and completely oversimplifying. The entire film sneaks up on you and does what all great hard science pictures should do — it forces you to think. It’s a daunting study on greed and capitalism among friends, like Office Space going the way of Shallow Grave. Carruth is able to do so very much with so very little, which is what all independent film should be. It’s a perfect example of making art out of practically nothing.

in-bruges-movie-02.jpg3. In Bruges (2008): Martin McDonagh is my hero. His plays have had a monstrous influence on my own writing — sinister character studies so brutally dark and yet incredibly sweet and touching. The Beauty Queen of Leenane Trilogy is mind-numbingly harsh — characters hacking each other with axes and battering with mallets. He’s a painter in violence and shatteringly hilarious dialogue. I worried if he’d be able to translate to the screen from the stage, and his first short film — the brilliant Six-Shooter — immediately won an Academy award. Not bad for a first-timer. But could it work feature length? Look no further than In Bruges, an astoundingly dark comedy about two hitmen on the lam. Again, as over the top as he goes with language and themes, he grounds it in a quiet character study of loneliness and death. Brendan Gleeson and Colin Farrell are simply brilliant. It’s shockingly violent yet immensely heartfelt. McDonagh proves there can be beauty in bloodshed and ruminations on death even when you are the man dealing it.

2009_black_dynamite_001.jpg2. Black Dynamite (2009): I stand by what I wrote: “Spoof comedies stopped being funny after Mel Brooks lost his groove. Most of them are just recycled “I Love The ’80s” jokes clumped together like the genital warts around … see, I can’t even finish the punchline without stooping to their fucking level. What most writers fail to realize is that to really savage something, you need to have a begrudging respect for it. Black Dynamite is the real deal. It easily could have been 80 minutes of lazy stoned frat boys checklisting afros, ho-jokes, and kung fu into a Blaxploitation Mad Lib. Instead, the filmmakers lovingly crafted an homage that hits all the bad points, like Quentin Taratino thought he was doing with Grindhouse. It’s incredibly stupid and cheesy in an amazingly deft and intelligent way. Every line flub, scenery-chewing moment, shaky cut, and song parody is done in a precise and careful way. It’s not just a Blunchblack of Blotre Blame pun stretched out to sell DVDs, but a serious effort, and it’s gut-bustingly, ass-stompingly hilarious. Even when it reaches over the top in the mildly shaky third act, Black Dynamite stays true to its soul and devastates the competition. Forget Zombieland. Fuck The Hangover. This is the single most thigh-slapping, belly-guffawing, rip-fucking-snorting good time you will have in the theatre this year. Unless you’re some kind of honky no-joke-getting retard.”

ellen-page-juno_l.jpg1. Juno (2007): If you want to be the kind of jackass reject who can’t see the forest for the trees — or in this case the heart for the hamburger phone — and sit around railing about the twee dialogue penned by a stripper, just do us all a favor and choke on a bag of dicks and your better, more authentic script for the Star Trek reboot. Call it hipstery (cause it is), rag on the leads for being one note (which they aren’t), bitch and moan because you can’t stand the soundtrack, but keep on missing the entire point entirely. It does everything every other movie on this list did well — only all in one movie. It’s an unusual love story, it takes uncomfortable topics and makes fun of them, it creates its own unique patois, it does so much with so little, it elevates underappreciated actors, and it’s funny while being sweet and touching and smart. Most of all, it made me feel good. If you want to hate on it because you don’t think it’s meaningful or interesting, that’s your problem. But it shows that a clever script and a talented director can take a little bit of studio money and destroy the competition. It’s changed the playing field. Juno will always be an important film, because it marks the point when the film festivals started to matter, when comedies were taken as seriously as the dramas, and when price tags stopped mattering.


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Comments

Oh man, the shit is going to fly in here.

I would say In Bruges would be my number one, though I love all of the films on this list that I have seen, which is most of them.

Posted by: Snath at December 15, 2009 3:36 PM

Solid list, except for Juno. I did not care for Juno.

No.

Posted by: chayes at December 15, 2009 3:37 PM

White flag offered humbly on my side, Prisco. All is forgiven from yesterday. This is an outstanding list and for your love of Martin McDonagh alone, I would absolve you of a million sins.

Posted by: PaddyDog at December 15, 2009 3:38 PM

I would switch #3 for #1. Juno was a cute film, but repeated watchings aren't recommended. It becomes cloying and overly precious. In Bruges, however, never gets old. The 3 leads are absolutely at the top of their game, the language is Deadwood-esque, and the action is phenomenal.

Switcheroo.

Posted by: dammitjanet at December 15, 2009 3:39 PM

Man, Juno is so overrated. Really happy to see Secretary and The Woodsman on here, though.

Posted by: annoyingmouse at December 15, 2009 3:41 PM

Where the fuck is Kingdom of the Crystal Skull? That was by the best Indy movie of the oohs.....

Posted by: Colostomy Baggins at December 15, 2009 3:41 PM

In Bruges is possibly my favorite movie ever.
Juno is probably like #6. It didn't stick with me in the same way.
You write lovely spiels.

Posted by: esme at December 15, 2009 3:41 PM

You did pretty well once you count the films you discounted with a heavy heart. I'm pretty impressed actually. Nice job as always Prisco.

Posted by: becks at December 15, 2009 3:42 PM

For the record, I too would give In Bruges the top spot.

Posted by: becks at December 15, 2009 3:44 PM

Juno as number one? Did you can even want to see go look more like? It was pregnant without decide to have control bulge. I swear if I ever have look before doubt 12am afternoon i'd without need come right in the schnaz. How to show of decidedly foreign Indie films go want without hockey more than ever. I hate you all.

On a lighter note, nice to see the Station Agent get some love.

Posted by: Adventureman at December 15, 2009 3:45 PM

You defense of them being one not is simply "they aren't".

Great Job.

Posted by: brian at December 15, 2009 3:47 PM

Congratulations brian! You are officially less coherent than Adventureman!

Posted by: becks at December 15, 2009 3:49 PM

It’s changed the playing field.

Yeah...apparently you can strip for an Oscar now, and it's considered legitimate.

Posted by: Doctor Controversy at December 15, 2009 3:49 PM

Completely echo PaddyDog. I have a deep abiding love for all of these films (barring Requiem, but only because I am too squeamish). I was writing a review of Brothers Bloom earlier today and kept referencing Brick and how genius and stylish and heart-wrenching it is-and then had to start my review again, because, well, I was reviewing the wrong movie.

Anywhoodle, this is an extraordinary list of beautiful films and your appreciation for them makes me appreciate you wholly.

(P.S. Rocket Science, Wristcutters and 500 Days of Summer!)

Posted by: coveredinbees at December 15, 2009 3:50 PM

Oh, and I second the #1 love for In Bruges, because my brothers and I watched it three times in a row when we rented it, and it was just as devistatingly hysterical each time. A rare movie I had to run out and buy immediately.

Posted by: Doctor Controversy at December 15, 2009 3:51 PM

Oh, In Bruges, how I love you.

Posted by: Kiddo at December 15, 2009 3:51 PM

I (unironically) love this list. Prisco's got one of the sharpest pokin' sticks around.

Posted by: branded at December 15, 2009 3:52 PM

I want to see Adventureman and brian in a write-off. Who's with me?

Posted by: dammitjanet at December 15, 2009 3:55 PM

I love this list, though disagree with Juno being number 1. Watched The Woodsman a couple days ago. it was scary and me feel very dirty and uncomfortable. Found myself looking away from the screen. Incredible movie. The thing about it is it's easy to hate a monster but the pedophile in this movie is not a monster so it's difficult to hate him. People expect pedos to be easy to hate. It also shows how fake the feeling of security people have just because pedophiles names are printed online in America is.

Requiem for a dream was one bad acid trip. Deserved a higher position here.

I totally loved In Bruges

I nominate:

A Complete History of My sexual Failures. lovely, toching movie, and very funny.

In Search of a Midnight Kiss. Sweet little movie.

Honeydripper. Speaks about racism a thousand times better than crash ever will, and it takes a look at when guitars went electric. Recommended.

Somersault.

My Winnipeg.

Together with foreign movies, indies are the ones I find most interesting. Oh, and documentaries.

Posted by: barf at December 15, 2009 3:56 PM

just do us all a favor and choke on a bag of dicks...

Oddly enough, this alternative does seem more appealing than suffering through Juno a second time.

Good list otherwise, but definately seconded on "Wristcutters", and also "Lars and the Real Girl."

Posted by: J Stride at December 15, 2009 4:00 PM

While I don't agree with a number of the movies on this list, I still applaud you for making it. Top 10 indies of the 2000s? ouch. There's a lot to till through. I'm really pleased with your inclusion of The Station Agent and In Bruges.

Good stuff, Prisco.

Posted by: Kevin Longrie at December 15, 2009 4:05 PM

I loved Juno, and I know a lot of other people did too, until the backlash happened. I don't really get it. Like I said above, I would still give In Bruges number one, but I still think Juno deserves its spot. I would actually put Garden State, another movie that suffered a pretty bad backlash, higher on the list as well.

Posted by: Snath at December 15, 2009 4:06 PM

Best List. Very happy to see Bubba Ho Tep make it. While it was a ridiculous film, Bruce Campbell and Osssie Davis made it.

Juno was good but not number one to me I agree with most the In Bruges should have been in the top spot.

Posted by: Guinness Leary at December 15, 2009 4:06 PM

Great list...haven't seen everything on here, so I'll have to add these to my list. Unfortunately I don't watch enough movies to add any that I thought were left out...but I gotta throw my name in for the love on In Bruges goin' down here. One of my favorite movies ever, for sure. Martin McDonagh is a genius. I saw his play, Pillowman, in New York with my family a few years ago...fucking genius. And it starred Jeff Goldblum and Billy Crudup...goddamn, Jeff Golblum is a funny motherfucker.

Posted by: Woody at December 15, 2009 4:06 PM

Any love for my favorite Indie Rom-Com of the aughts, the Tao of Steve?

Came out in 2000 (which technically isn't in the aughts, but close enough I figure.).

How can you not like a romantic comedy that combines philosophy *and* Steve McQueen, and has neither Meg Ryan nor Tom Hanks in it?!

Posted by: Jacktrade at December 15, 2009 4:09 PM

Garden State and Juno sucked, why are they on here? Hell, I'd prefer any Wes Anderson movie over their inclusion.

Posted by: George at December 15, 2009 4:13 PM

I'm proud to be able to say I've seen most of these films (huzzah for Netflix!) and plan on catching most of the rest.

Prisco, your words are a wonderful tribute to the small stories.

Posted by: Jerce at December 15, 2009 4:15 PM

Requiem needs to be higher on the list. An absolutely soul wrenching movie, but worth watching.

Posted by: Jadine at December 15, 2009 4:18 PM

Garden State and Juno sucked, why are they on here?

Sigh. Because it's Prisco's list, and Prisco loved them. Exclude them from your own damned list.

I was equally awestruck by The Woodsman, Brian. Kevin Bacon was unbelievable. And I too, unabashedly love Juno. Always.

Posted by: Julie at December 15, 2009 4:19 PM

Half Nelson didn't make the list but be sure to include a hipster wet dream about an obnoxiously precious girl knocked up by a chinless Michael Sera.

Other than that, good list.

Posted by: c at December 15, 2009 4:21 PM

Sweet fancy Moses.

1/11

*sucks in breath, holds it, slowly exhales*

Looks like I have some watchin' to do.

Posted by: , at December 15, 2009 4:21 PM

Is anybody as curious as I am about the identity of his actual #1 that he removed? My money's on 500 Days, but I kind of hope it was The Hurt Locker. Spill the beans, Prisco. We're all friends here.

Posted by: the_wakeful at December 15, 2009 4:28 PM

I love you, Prisco.

Posted by: Sean at December 15, 2009 4:30 PM

I admit to enjoying Juno. But I will repeat what I write every effing time I see it referenced on this site -- Lars and the Real Girl should be receiving all the accolades going to Diablo's film. Replace Juno with L&TRG in Prisco's blurb above and it's every bit as true without the backlash generated by the former. Why does this film get overshadowed? It just kills me... In closing, argh.

Posted by: melia at December 15, 2009 4:33 PM

Dude, I love you for having the balls to include Juno and Garden State. Just looking at the Garden State poster with the trash bags and the screaming is insanely emotional. I get what they are feeling and take comfort in not being the only one. Also, I really enjoy referring to people as Fast Food Knights. But mostly that emotional trash bag thing.

Posted by: Sbrown at December 15, 2009 4:35 PM

"i'd without need come right in the schnaz"

Coming in the schnaz is never needed, but it feels so much better there than anywhere else. I'm with you there, Adventureman. However, I take umbrage to your decidedly negative tone regarding the lack of foreign indies on this list, and where you suggested we put our hockey sticks.

Posted by: logar at December 15, 2009 4:35 PM

Me You and Everyone We Know should've made this list. Oh my god that movie sticks with you. Not just because it gave us the interweb friendly ))>(( inside joke, but because it was hauntingly beautiful. If you havent seen it, you should.

Posted by: le stinky at December 15, 2009 4:38 PM

So happy to see Bubba Ho-Tep here. One of my favorite flicks in the world.

Posted by: Mattfactor at December 15, 2009 4:40 PM

I'm going to stick to what I'm happy about: Secretary (thank Jesopus!), In Bruges and The Station Agent.

I haven't seen The Woodsman, but what you wrote reminded me of how I felt after Little Children.

Posted by: Cindy at December 15, 2009 4:41 PM

STAR WARS is an independent film. You used that as an example of a big budget studio film, but Lucas made the movie independently.

Just sayin'.

Posted by: superasente at December 15, 2009 4:42 PM

ok. but if you would not just for a second look, and think for a minute too... i mean it's like your brain is just full of that nothing static.

what happens in a writ off? can it now?

Posted by: Brian at December 15, 2009 4:43 PM

Juno, wut? All the vitriol in the world doesn't make that movie good.

Thumbs up to Station Agent, Secretary, and (bigtime) In Bruges. Brick isn't as good as you and Dustin think it is, but it's solid enough to make this list. Bubba Ho-Tep... ehhhhhhh also have to say overrated.

Wasn't Thank You for Smoking independent? And thus shouldn't it be on this list?

Posted by: Eep at December 15, 2009 4:46 PM

2 out of 11 for me. So far off this list I've only seen Garden State and Juno. Though I enjoyed Garden State it didn't really speak to me. I get how it spoke to you and a lot of other people, but it just didn't grab me, ya know? I also have much love for Juno. Despite the cute dialogue, I think that the film will hold up for future generations. After all, A Clockwork Orange had the same type of teen patois and it's still rightfully revered as one of the greatest movies of all time. As for the rest of these movies, Bubba Ho-Tep and Brick are on my Netflix list. The others will be shortly.

Posted by: stardust at December 15, 2009 4:48 PM

Gawd The Woodsman made me so angry.
Because it was SO good, and so effective in making a paedophile sympathetic.
I hated it for that.
I actually thought 'how dare they make a subhuman monster a sympathetic character, how dare they!'
And I've not watched it since that one time.
But it is fucking excellent.
Good list. I need to watch mayyybeeee three, four films on it? But good list

Posted by: Nadine at December 15, 2009 4:48 PM

okay, i feel so bad saying this, because i love bruce campbell and ossie davis. and i looove bubba ho-top (my friend was one of the producers--name on the dvd box and everything), but the sixth best independent film of the decade? i'm not sure that's a claim that i can get behind. love the film, but having it above the station agent or secretary seems wrong.

Posted by: atinymachine at December 15, 2009 4:52 PM

Primer, In Bruges, The Woodsman, and Brick are untouchable. Great picks.

Juno was a cute film, but repeated watchings aren't recommended. It becomes cloying and overly precious.

I have to agree on that. I'd lose Juno and slip in Little Miss Sunshine instead.

Also gotta add Half Nelson and Broken Flowers. And if you're counting stuff that came out in 2000, then Memento and You Can Count on Me.


Mmmm... this is a tough one. Nice work, though.

Posted by: Dre Strangelove at December 15, 2009 4:53 PM

though i love a few of the movies on this list, i abhorred garden state and wish momento would've gotten a mention instead.

Posted by: atinymachine at December 15, 2009 5:03 PM

Props to you, Prisco, for tackling what's sure to be a controversial list. I loved it.

Then again, you do to me with your reviews what Nabokov did to you with Lolita. Even if I know it's a film I won't like, you make me love what you love with your magical, magical words.

Posted by: Jelinas at December 15, 2009 5:12 PM

And for those of you who also love Garden State:

"By the way, it says BALLS on your face."

I love Jim Parsons.

Posted by: Patty O'Green at December 15, 2009 5:15 PM

While I very much love this list, and the writing is beautiful - I disagree with the majority of the order. But movies are personal things, so meh.

Posted by: Reina at December 15, 2009 5:16 PM

Sbrown, I watched Garden State before I started watching movies like I read books (i.e. actually paying attention to the construction and how it makes you feel, rather than just images across your retinas for a couple of hours), but I still remember that trashbag screaming scene. I remember enjoying the rest of the movie too, as much as I enjoyed any decent movie back then, but that scene has stuck with me. Loved it. Fuck the backlash, that scene makes the entire rest of the movie worthwhile. And perfect choice for musical accompaniment.

Posted by: dsbs at December 15, 2009 5:16 PM

I think Brian is Adventureman.

I hated Garden State.

The Station Agent introduced me to Peter Dinklage, and I'll watch anything he's in, at least until he shows up and then I'll turn it off if I hate the film (cough, Death at a Funeral, cough).

In Bruges had Peter Dinklage. I watched the whole thing.

Secretary was wonderfully twisted. I think I started watching Boston Legal because of it.

Must put Brick and Black Dynamite on my Netflix list.

Posted by: BWeaves at December 15, 2009 5:17 PM

Can someone who loves In Bruges please explain to me how the ending didn't knock it down a few notches for you? It really had me until the ten-minute chase scene. I just really like it, I don't love it, because of that ending.

Posted by: Brenton at December 15, 2009 5:19 PM

Excellent list, though I would have added "Lars and the Real Girl." That movie resonated with me on so many levels and Ryan Gosling's performance was stellar.

I also agree that Juno loses some of its spark after repeated viewings. "In Bruges" would have been my number 1.

Posted by: penelope at December 15, 2009 5:20 PM

I'm getting the "I read that one other thread where everyone was hating on Juno, so I'm going to stick Juno as #1 on my list" vibe. Maybe it's because I want In Bruges to be there instead.

3/11.

Posted by: duckandcover at December 15, 2009 5:23 PM

Oh man, I was all about this list, practically crafting my love letter to Prisco...and then... "Juno."

Posted by: CallMeGinger at December 15, 2009 5:24 PM

In Bruges had Peter Dinklage. I watched the whole thing.

BWeaves, where was he? Jordan Prentice was the short man of the film (the racist dwarf), but did Dinklage make a cameo?

Posted by: duckandcover at December 15, 2009 5:26 PM

You do know Memento was in the "aughts", right? Hurt Locker should be on the list. And how about Sideways and Lars and the Real Girl? Don't get the love for Juno and In Bruges.

Posted by: james S at December 15, 2009 5:26 PM

I was really surprised to see Black Dynamite on this list, pleasantly of course.

I was also surpirised to see Juno at #1. I loved it, don't get me wrong (or make me choke on a bag of dicks), just for it to take the top spot, eh? Love how you stuck to your guns on it though Prisco.

Posted by: ashes at December 15, 2009 5:27 PM

And thank you, Prisco, for inspiring me to go buy and read a play. Despite my passion for and degree in theatre, I haven't read a new play in ages. I am going out to get The Woodsman tonight, and I cannot wait to read it.

Posted by: Patty O'Green at December 15, 2009 5:43 PM

The fact that 'Juno' made the list over '(500) Days of Summer' is just disappointing.

Posted by: Jake at December 15, 2009 5:46 PM

Um, OK. Pretty good. Notably absent films:

Lost in Translation
Sideways
Memento

However, I don't know what I would replace other than In Bruges. Yes, I know, I just scrolled through pages of you fuckers all trying to suck the last bit of salt off of this film's metaphoric testicles, but I found it impenetrably dull, pretentious, and basically up it's own ass. Oh, and WAY too reliant on Bullseye looking "intense."

And Bubba Ho-Tep sucks. Sorry. Cult classic, etc. Bruce Campbell, I know. We get it. But it sucks. Once you're done with the novel setup, you can stop watching. I think it can still be on your list though. I give you my completely anonymous Internet authority to include it.

Posted by: professor_love at December 15, 2009 5:50 PM

@Patty O'Green, while you're out getting the Woodsman, try to pick up The Pillowman by Martin McDonagh (who wrote and directed In Bruges) if you haven't already read it. Great play.

Posted by: Dre Strangelove at December 15, 2009 5:55 PM

I love Juno, even after repeated watchings. I don't quite get the backlash; if you don't like it, fine. Feel free to disagree with reviewers like Prisco all you want, it's completely subjective. But there's such vitriol directed at Juno, you'd think Diablo Cody had snuck into these people's rooms at night and molested them or something.

I also love the shit out of Lars and the Real Girl. That would've been very high on my personal list.

Posted by: Daniel Hall at December 15, 2009 6:23 PM

Primer = mindfuck. Definitely see it if that's at all your thing.

Posted by: Mick J at December 15, 2009 6:25 PM

I'm mad at Diablo Cody because so many people I trust told me the movie would be awesome and it wasn't. It was a middling story with a protagonist with an obnoxious speech impediment. If I heard it was complete shit I might have even been pleasantly surprised, but the letdown was anger-worthy and the anger had to be pointed somewhere so better someone I never expect to meet than the good people of this site.

Posted by: Eep at December 15, 2009 6:37 PM

I'd have Secretary and Juno switch places, drop Garden State and add Hard Candy.
I assume this only merits a bag of nipples.

Posted by: clocker at December 15, 2009 6:50 PM

Requiem should be required viewing for all 13/14 year olds.

And fuck Juno harder than Bleeker did - Colin Farrel should karate chop that shit from #1

Posted by: smaj at December 15, 2009 6:57 PM

Juno is still a fantastic film. I don't see how the anti-hipster dialog backlash somehow affects the quality of the film. It doesn't. The performances are great, the direction is great, and the screenplay is beautifully plotted with great character development and engaging story arcs. It's pretty obvious where the film needs to go and Cody managed to make that compelling.

I have tons of films I'd include on my own Indie Film List of the Aughts, but I can't complain with the choices here.

Now when do we get the Best Musicals list? Surely there have been at least ten of good quality? I can start you off: Happiness of the Katakuris, Les triplettes de Belleville, Once, Moulin Rougue, and Reefer Madness. Your move, Pajiba staff, your move.

Posted by: Robert at December 15, 2009 6:59 PM

Juno as number one? Did you can even want to see go look more like? It was pregnant without decide to have control bulge. I swear if I ever have look before doubt 12am afternoon i'd without need come right in the schnaz. How to show of decidedly foreign Indie films go want without hockey more than ever. I hate you all.

On a lighter note, nice to see the Station Agent get some love.

This was the funniest thing ever. I've always pictured Adventureman as a bold immigrant who refuses to let his lack of english language skill dim his brilliant joie-de-vivre, but seeing a proper sentence enter his post made me choke with true, guttural laughter. Thank you, Adventureman, Thank purple monkey dishwasher you.

Posted by: welldressed at December 15, 2009 7:03 PM

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU for standing up for Juno, In Bruges, Brick, Bubba Ho-Tep, and all the other wonderful films on this list. You are truly a statesman, a scholar, and a hero to me and so-called "hipsters" everywhere. Seriously, people ragging on Juno in the "Love Stories" list pissed me off SO MUCH. Glad to know I'm not alone in loving this movie!

Is Focus Features disqualified? Because that would explain the lack of Little Miss Sunshine and Eternal Sunshine, though I'm pretty sure Brick is Focus too. Still, you made me happy as hell today.

Posted by: ChristianH at December 15, 2009 7:09 PM

Oh, and are Wes Anderson movies not qualified? Because pretty much any of them would fit here.

And The Brothers Bloom.

And Perfume.

Posted by: ChristianH at December 15, 2009 7:17 PM

@Robert REEFER MADNESS!!!!!!

Posted by: coveredinbees at December 15, 2009 7:20 PM

Robert, Coverdinbees, please do not bring up Reefer Madness or I will be singing those damn songs for another six weeks. I have a job to do! One that does not include knowing every single word of that addictive musical! Curse you both! Curse you straight to Hades!

Posted by: welldressed at December 15, 2009 7:23 PM

Oh, and The Anniversary Party.

And The Squid and the Whale.

And Wet Hot American Summer.

And Everything is Illuminated.

And The Pianist.

Done.

For now.

Posted by: ChristianH at December 15, 2009 7:27 PM

This is a solid list of movies. "Indie" is so broad - and I've seen so many of them - that I can't really grouse about this list specifically without some extensive research. I will say that - my personal issues with the film aside - calling Juno a true indie is something of a stretch in my mind. When you've got 20th Century Fox backing your distribution and your advertising and you max out at over 2500 screens, you're pushing the definition.

That said, I accept that this is Prisco's list. :- )

Posted by: DarthCorleone at December 15, 2009 7:28 PM

I wanted to join the love for Lars and the Real Girl.

Posted by: becks at December 15, 2009 7:29 PM

I hate this list, and I hate this more: Lolita is my favorite book of all time, because it fooled me into rooting for a pedophile.

Posted by: SaBrina at December 15, 2009 7:56 PM

I think putting Garden State and Juno on this list in this day and age is sort of badass, though I have to join in the Lars and the Real Girl chorus.

Also, Robert is right about The Squid and the Whale and Wet Hot American Summer.

Posted by: kyle at December 15, 2009 8:00 PM

Very, very, VERY good list. And Juno should be number one because of the impact it had. Even if it hadn't made such an impact it still should be number 1 because it's a lovely story and as indie as they get.

Posted by: Sofía at December 15, 2009 8:05 PM

I think a special mention should go to Overnight here. A movie about making a movie. You get to see the pain, headaches and shit that indie directors go through. It's about the rise and fall of Troy Duffy, from the Boondock Saints. This will put all indie movies into perspective. It's a miracle these movies even get made!

Every wannabe director should be made to sit down and watch this, possibly multiple times.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0390336/

Posted by: barf at December 15, 2009 8:12 PM

A brilliant selection of films that mean so much to so few but to those few, so very, very much.
Thank you, Brian.
It's the first time I've smiled all day.

Posted by: Spender at December 15, 2009 8:22 PM

BTW, I just bought In Bruges on DVD today, irony of ironies. I was sitting with my girlfriend in a Culver's after finishing up my Christmas shopping, and I thought, 'I want to buy something for me, not just for everybody else.'

I asked my gf if she's seen In Bruges (she hadn't). Finally, I was like, "Fuck it, I want that movie in my collection right now."

We drove to Best Buy. And COMPLETELY UNAWARE AS I WAS, In Bruges was on sale for $6.99.

I fucking love life sometimes.

Posted by: ChristianH at December 15, 2009 8:24 PM

All y'all defending Juno and Garden State still doesn't prevent them from being two of the worst movies of all time.*

For those wondering what deserves the place instead, how about Donnie Darko, Precious, or Once, they're all good, and while Donnie Darko is incredibly pretentious, it isn't annoying, and it doesn't have Diablo Cody dialogue.

*By worst, I don't just mean obvious shitpiles like the Movie Movie movies, I mean overtly pretentious shitpiles their creators thought were masterpieces.

Posted by: George at December 15, 2009 8:26 PM

Nice List. Glad Black Dynamite made the list and would some theatre in Louisville, KY please get a clue and bring that mess down here for all to see. Can't wait til February for the DVD.

Posted by: Mr. West at December 15, 2009 8:27 PM

Oh I hate Garden State. I swear to god, its the absinthe of movies to me. I'll explain...

When I was overseas, I did a lot of drinking over in Europe. I seemed to always end up with locals or European tourists that were into drinking absinthe. I hate the shit. Its one of the only drinks I can think of that tastes as bad on the fifth shot as it did on the first. Bear in mind, I'm no light weight as my favorite drink is straight whiskey. Now I would always explain this to people and they will tell me that I didn't drink it or try it the correct way. So by the time I left Europe I had absinthe in every conceivable fashion possible and it still tasted like ass.

Much in the same fashion, I have been forced to watch Garden State at least a dozen times by women in the two years I have been in college who swear that I missed something or that if I see it one more time, suddenly I will get why its a great film.

Posted by: Diablo at December 15, 2009 9:04 PM

I'm assuming you drank it with melted sugar, then, Diablo? And having your favourite drink as whiskey pretty much confirms the fact that you have no taste whatsoever; in films or in drinks.

I kid I kid! Just a different taste to me. And many other people. Absinthe is yummy and I like Garden State for the same reasons as Brisco.

I'd take Juno out altogether though. The only thing I enjoyed in that movie was Bateman. I HATED the soundtrack and I hated Ellen Page.

I'd bump Primer, Garden State and In Bruges up higher and slot in Memento, Thank You For Smoking and The Squid & The Whale at the expense of Juno, Black Dynamite and Brick. Oh, and I'd put Requiem at number one.

Posted by: bendiagram at December 15, 2009 10:08 PM

Wait, Juno is the film that made festivals matter? Not Clerks? Not El Mariachi? Not Reservoir Dogs? Juno?

Look, we can debate the merits of the film all day and night. It's pointless, taste is always subjective.

But Juno did not make festivals matter. It benefited from the forefathers of the indie film movement that made festivals matter.

Posted by: Midnight Monkey Madness at December 15, 2009 11:11 PM

God-to-pus, you get busy for a couple of months and drift away...and not a damn thing changes.

Prisco counter-hipster-rage, check.
Overreaching Lists, check.
George still searching for a voice, check (but why is it shit, G-man?).
Adventureman...is new.

3/11, and it's probably the same three as most of the rest of the pretenders here.

All in all, quite a solid effort. I can't forgive the exclusion of Lars and the Real Girl (which I shamelessly shill every chance I get because anyone who hasn't seen it needs to see it and anyone who would purposely avoid it needs to see it more), and it annoys me that Little Miss Sunshine didn't make this cut -- but that's quibbles and bits. In Bruges held up better than Juno to multiple viewings for me (the only ones that I've seen more than once besides the two mentioned above), but I'll defend Prisco's choice of Juno based on his stated rationale. Come on, people, he told us why he did it (market impact), and he's not wrong on that count. Let it go.

Posted by: Che Grovera at December 15, 2009 11:25 PM

I love Secretary. I was sad to see it not mentioned on the best love stories of the aughts. The movie made S&M sweet for christ's sake. Both Gyllenhaal and Spader are at their best. The only negative I have is that it is without a doubt the last time James Spader looked fuckable in a movie, but still. Watching two incredibly fucked up people find each other, (ugh, I'll say it) complete each other is nice, it's comforting, and it makes people happy.

Bubba Ho-Tep just makes me smile. I want to thank Don Coscarelli for making a movie about how Elvis really died. The truth needed to get out there. Young Elvis deserved this movie.

Brian, I slightly disagree with your assessment of movie formulas (they can be a good thing, if done well) but I think your list is killer.

Posted by: Mebe at December 15, 2009 11:48 PM

love love love primer. and station agent.

Posted by: MarcusArilius at December 15, 2009 11:56 PM

So Midnight Monkey Madness goes and contradicts my point while I'm still writing it. Lovely.

I'm speculating, but I don't believe Prisco would agree with your extrapolation of his argument, triple-M. While Juno may have represented the crest of a wave that had been breaking for years (as you pointed out), I seriously doubt that he would give sole credit to any one film. Back me up here, big boy. Or not, since this is all semantics. How does it matter that we argue over what it means to matter?

Posted by: Che Grovera at December 16, 2009 12:00 AM

I knew Garden State would be in this list like I knew Michael Bay had to have idiot robots in his idiot robot movie.

Let me just state this once and for all: Garden State SUCKED.

It doesn't make you cool to like its hipster "Look at how unique I am" attitude. It doesn't make you a non-sheeple for loving its soundtrack or finding Zach Braff cool or cute.

Garden State is to indie movies what 2 Girls, 1 Cup were to the Internet.

GAWDTAPUS!!!!!

Posted by: Fredo at December 16, 2009 12:17 AM

And Once.

Posted by: James S at December 16, 2009 12:20 AM

God I HATED "Brick." It would definitely be off my list. Requiem should be near the #1 spot, and "In Bruges" would get my vote as #1, but I haven's seen "Juno." As others have mentioned, "Memento" is one of my all-time favorite films, and it deserves a spot in my book. Also, "Shattered Glass" anyone?

Posted by: EJ at December 16, 2009 12:26 AM

All of this love for In Bruges warms my heart. The only people I know in real life who've even heard of that film are people who've been subjected to me gushing about it. That's why I love this site.

Posted by: mj at December 16, 2009 12:40 AM

You show unbelievable naïveté with that last sentence. It was not Juno that made film festivals matter and it did not change ANYTHING about movie price tags. You can't just erase the dozens of films over years and years that had a much greater impact on the stupid point you are trying to make. It's really fucking retarded of you to suggest that and include it as a considerable factor in your blind adoration for this movie. It also demonstrates that you have no idea what you are talking about, which would make it tough for most people to value your opinion.

Posted by: ethan at December 16, 2009 2:38 AM

Wow. No Lost and Delirious, yet you have Juno as #1? That movie was absolute shit.

Posted by: Kris at December 16, 2009 3:02 AM

"Can someone who loves In Bruges please explain to me how the ending didn't knock it down a few notches for you? It really had me until the ten-minute chase scene. I just really like it, I don't love it, because of that ending."

Anyone? Bueller?

Posted by: Brenton at December 16, 2009 4:14 AM

My only small quibble is the exclusion of two personal favorites, The Wackness and one Che mentioned, Lars and The Real Girl.

But like you said, Prisco, it's pretty subjective, so I guess I can't complain. Too much.

Posted by: Smokin at December 16, 2009 4:40 AM

Nuts to me for complaining about the lack of Black Dynamite getting it's due accolades

Posted by: A. Biro at December 16, 2009 5:15 AM

Haven't seen Juno so I can't judge on that. But "In Bruges" was fucking great.

Posted by: Matt at December 16, 2009 6:26 AM

Solid list, Prisco. There are a few I've never seen, but of the ones I have I agree with the inclusions. Once I haven't seen mentioned is The Shape of Things. Brutal movie, but quite revelatory performances by Rachel Weisz and Paul Rudd. Loved it. Also "The Constant Gardener" but I'm not sure if that one counts as indie. Once and Hedwig would make my list though.

I need to see Brick and The Station Agent. I quite like Peter Dinklage in other roles I've seen. And I cannot wait for Black Dynamite to come out on dvd.

Posted by: TylerDFC at December 16, 2009 7:05 AM

ugh to Juno and Garden State

yay! for In Bruges and Bubba Ho-Tep ... I'd forgotten how cool that film was ...

Posted by: lelnguye at December 16, 2009 7:30 AM

How many times has the word "hipster" been used in the past couple weeks to either validate or discredit a point about these "top so and so of the aughts" list? Even better, how about in the past year? How many times has "hipster" been used as the last ditch effort for folks who've got no leg to stand on? Hipster is the Goodwin's Law of the Aughts.

At this point it's such an empty, moot word.
---Everyone's a "hipster", and no one is.
---Everything is geared toward "hipsters" and nothing is.

---I liked it cause it pissed off those "hipster" douchebags and their pabst drinking contigent.
---I hated it cause it was all "hipstery". Go drink your pabst and read russian lit, you posers.

The cool kids are/were always assholes.

Posted by: Brian at December 16, 2009 9:19 AM

Secretary, Lars and the Real Girl, Half-Nelson, Requiem for a Dream, A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints, Hard Candy, Lost in Translation (because I had a love like that once), Away From Her, Transcontinental, Napoleon Dynamite (can only watch it once though).

Posted by: scorzi at December 16, 2009 9:31 AM

Brick made this list so I'm happy Prisco.

Posted by: grace b at December 16, 2009 9:34 AM

In Brogues at 3? Bubba Ho-Tep at 6? Fucking Juno at 1?

This list is all good, but fucking Juno at number 1? I call both bullshit and shenanigans.
Michael Cera is more than one note? Show me, give me an example.

Posted by: vismundcygnus at December 16, 2009 9:57 AM

I had no idea there were so many 'Lars and the REal Girl' fans out there. Just finished a film/discussion series with my youth group (yep, I'm a church youth director), and that was our finale. Great discussion followed.

Love seeing the Station Agent and the Woodsman on here, and Brick and In Bruges are solid as well.

Enjoyed Garden State and Juno- nice little movies I don't plan to see ever again.

I assume Memento is being saved for a spot in the best movies of the aughts list? (please?)

Posted by: dg at December 16, 2009 9:57 AM

All y'all defending Juno and Garden State still doesn't prevent them from being two of the worst movies of all time.*

*By worst, I don't just mean obvious shitpiles like the Movie Movie movies, I mean overtly pretentious shitpiles their creators thought were masterpieces.
Posted by: George at December 15, 2009 8:26 PM

Wow, THAT was one of the most pretentious posts I've ever seen. You're probably the only person in the world who thought they warranted "worst movies of all time" status, and it's simply because you don't like the people who made it or the fact that they got a lot of buzz.

People who make outrageous statements to sound cool because they like to join in on the backlash make me yawn.

Posted by: Christian H. at December 16, 2009 11:21 AM

"Can someone who loves In Bruges please explain to me how the ending didn't knock it down a few notches for you? It really had me until the ten-minute chase scene. I just really like it, I don't love it, because of that ending."
Anyone? Bueller?
Posted by: Brenton at December 16, 2009 4:14 AM

Having watched it for the third time last night, I can say I truly loved the ending. I would agree that it's a little out of place only if they hadn't done such a tremendous job building up to it; it felt inevitable and unavoidable, the way an ending should. Plus, Ralph Fiennes character really made those bits shine. From the first shot of him smashing his phone to the end, he is absolutely brilliant.

I dunno, the chase sequence was really the first and only action-heavy part of the entire movie, and for a movie where the main characters are hitmen, that's impressive. It was the perfect payoff for a patient viewer, and a hardline twist for those of us who were fine without the action, but could still enjoy it anyway. Plus, *spoiler alert* I love ambiguous endings to death.

Posted by: Christian H. at December 16, 2009 11:29 AM

Okay as a long time lurker (several years) this is the post that is kicking me over into commenting territory.

First and foremost, I have been meaning to see The Station Agent for years and this is officially kicking it to the top of my netflix queue.

I am also going to have to check out The Woodsman as Lolita is also my favorite book (well, tied with The Corrections) for precisely the same reason. It made me feel a way that I didn't think was possible.

So anyhow, you had me with Brick, loved that the Secretary was in there and I'll even admit under cloak of anonymity that I too loved Garden State! You totally had me right up until Juno when I had to smack my forehead repeatedly into my desk. I just. coudln't. take. it. I tried! I wanted to like it, really I did. I even watched it a second time, before deciding that enough was enough and there are more fun forms of masochism.

So very well. Off I go to choke on a bag of dicks, but hell, seems a decent way to die.

Posted by: rhombus at December 16, 2009 11:42 AM

Hi rhombus! Nice to meet you.

Don't choke on a bag of dicks and die over Juno claiming the top spot. I didn't love it either (though I thought it was cute) and I only enjoyed a few scenes in Garden State so I think it's possible to enjoy the list without agreeing with it one hundred percent. Besides we can probably both agree that Juno had mass appeal without pandering to the lowest common denominator. For that reason it probably belonged on this list somewhere.

Posted by: becks at December 16, 2009 12:02 PM

Well, I've seen 5 of these, and loved them to death.

I guess that means I'm gonna have to see the rest. I'm off, then, to put them on my Netflix cue.

Mr. Prisco, once again, I am moved by your passion.

Posted by: Anna von Beaverpuppet at December 16, 2009 1:03 PM

"Having watched [In Bruges] for the third time last night, I can say I truly loved the ending. I would agree that it's a little out of place only if they hadn't done such a tremendous job building up to it; it felt inevitable and unavoidable, the way an ending should. Plus, Ralph Fiennes character really made those bits shine. From the first shot of him smashing his phone to the end, he is absolutely brilliant.

I dunno, the chase sequence was really the first and only action-heavy part of the entire movie, and for a movie where the main characters are hitmen, that's impressive. It was the perfect payoff for a patient viewer, and a hardline twist for those of us who were fine without the action, but could still enjoy it anyway. Plus, *spoiler alert* I love ambiguous endings to death.
Posted by: Christian H. at December 16, 2009 11:29 AM,

For those of us that were pleasantly surprised that the movie didn't involve Bourne-like action scenes, the ending felt like a cop-out. It didn't feel inevitable to me, which is why I was disappointed. "Better throw in some shooting and shit to make the spy/action fans happy." If the movie is about character, it didn't need the action, as you say.

Thanks for the explanation. Maybe I'll have to give it another shot.

Posted by: Brenton at December 16, 2009 2:08 PM

Maybe it was talked up too much for me and the theater wasn't full and my friends didn't laugh much either. But I didn't like Juno. And then after it got all the praise and glory, I hated Juno. And because the next thing Diablo Cody wrote was Jennifer's Body, I now believe Juno is the most overrated movie of all time.

And I completely disagree that it changed the game. Juno was the culmination of the large growing hipster/indie movement and it rode out the success to the Oscars. No movie like Juno will ever achieve what Juno did (including the much better film Little Miss Sunshine) ever again. Few films have even tried...

Bottom line: If I was white, I would love Juno. But I'm not. So screw Juno and screw you.

Good day!

Posted by: Littlejon2001 at December 16, 2009 3:26 PM

Where is Rachel Getting Married?

Posted by: legaleagle at December 16, 2009 3:32 PM

Okay, I get that this is your list and that's that. What I don't get is the defensive stance with respect to "Juno". Fine, it's your opinion and you're entitled to it, but people who weren't crazy about the movie aren't "jackass rejects" or hypocrites. They're just as entitled to their opinions as you are.

I saw Juno. It held my attention. It was cute. Jennifer Garner made me cry. But it's no Secretary and it's no Station Agent, neither of which could be described as "cute" or with just one adjective.

Posted by: samantha t at December 16, 2009 5:23 PM

Not bad. I actually hated Juno the first time I watched it and watched it again to see if I was just in a bad mood and I liked it a lot more. The too-cool-for-school lingo gets cloying but I think it's sweet.

Requiem should be much further down that list - at least in the top 3.

Yes, to In Bruges - hilarious, heartbreaking, and fantastic acting.

Would have liked to have seen Lars, as well, and Little Miss Sunshine...

Posted by: Heather at December 16, 2009 8:01 PM

And because the next thing Diablo Cody wrote was Jennifer's Body, I now believe Juno is the most overrated movie of all time.

Posted by: Littlejon2001 at December 16, 2009 3:26 PM

Wait... what? Why? What does one have to do with the other? Does Jack retroactively make Apocalypse Now overrated? Or does it just mean that Francis Ford Coppola is capable of both good and bad movies?

Posted by: Daniel Hall at December 16, 2009 11:56 PM

I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with many of your choices, but you are bang on with The Station Agent. It changed my life, the way I look at characterization, and the way I appreciate movies. It's just so precisely and quietly beautiful.

Posted by: edithkeelermustdie at December 17, 2009 12:17 PM

I admit that I have only seen three of these movies (Juno, Requiem for a Dream and Bubba Ho-Tep), but you got me interested in the rest. Also, the whole paragraph about Juno was my favorite part, now I'll have to keep it with so I can tell that to my friends the next time they complain about that movie.
By the way, does Little Miss Sunshine count as an indie film?

Posted by: Radlum at December 17, 2009 2:48 PM

I loved the movie Jack...

Posted by: Littlejon2001 at December 17, 2009 4:39 PM

Quick story about "Requiem for a Dream"-- My best friend has HORRIFIC taste in movies (she's a huge Tyler Perry fan, and she thought "He's Just Not That Into You" was deep and insightful). One time I mentioned offhand to her that Marlon Wayans was in RFAD (she looooves the Wayans Bros), so she went out and rented it, not realizing what it was. Cut to later that night, she called me up and started screaming at me. I don't think I've ever laughed harder in my life.

Posted by: kate at December 17, 2009 9:57 PM

Also, I second legaleagle--Rachel Getting Married socked me in the fucking gut. I (almost) never cry during movies, but it left me sobbing.

Posted by: kate at December 17, 2009 10:00 PM

Ew. Juno. Ew

I hated it 5 minutes in. I had just come back from abroad, never heard of it, and went to see it on a request. So my hatred is not backlash. I just plain hate it and want all copies of it everywhere to burn.

Posted by: Kate at December 17, 2009 11:21 PM

hells yeah - Bubba Ho-tep

No interest in like 1/2 the movies on the list. Personally I'd add Frozen River, Waitress, Sunshine Cleaning, Little Miss Sunshine (Arkin). Does The Wrestler count?

Posted by: GinKirk at December 18, 2009 12:31 PM

This is the list I hate the most. The main reason: In bruges

Posted by: james at December 19, 2009 7:46 PM

My sister and I watched Rachel Getting Married and laughed the whole time at the manufactured wackiness (and her father, who was clearly gay). Anybody else?

Posted by: samantha t at December 20, 2009 3:03 PM

No Half Nelson? No Mysterious Skin? No Before Night Falls? No The Wrestler? No Frozen River? No Sasayaki? No Amores Perros? No Ghost Dog: Way of the Samurai? No In the Bedroom? No Precious? No Old Boy? No Boy A? No Ratcatcher? No Beau Travail? All of these films are much more deserving to be on this list than Primer and Juno.

Okay, you redeemed yourself a little with Brick and your unabashed love for Garden State. Yeah, Garden State, I said it.

But Juno at #1? It was funny but it's not a keeper.

Posted by: allheavens at December 21, 2009 3:46 PM

I think juno is cool movie.

Posted by: hollywood gossip at January 12, 2010 5:18 PM

Good list but i would have picked primer for no.1 no film i have ever watched in my entire life has ever had me rewatch it before the end credits had even started to crawl and for that, and for its faith in the audiences intelligence not just its own it for me, is one of the greatest indie films ever... this isnt even taking into account the budget and the fact that the director, stared, wrote and edited the damn thing with a few of his pals and learnt physics to keep it real... i am in the i don't care much for Juno brigade i enjoyed it but i also think it tried to hard to be a 'indie' flick if that makes sense lol...

Posted by: Jason Bourke-Velji at February 11, 2010 11:23 AM

First off, really good list. Loved In Bruges and Brick, I don't think Brick gets nearly enough love! Couple I'll have to check out still.. Primer and The Woodsman. As for Juno... eh... I mean it was good but #1? Theres something about it thats just too.. sweet? The whole film was just too easy. Everything works out.. its like there wasn't really any conflict to begin with! Also I just saw Street Thief, not saying it deserves to be on this list but man what a breath of fresh air! If you haven't seen it don't read up on it just watch it. Trust me!

Posted by: Ian at February 16, 2010 1:47 AM





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