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Changes of Heart: Reexamining Art You Used to Hate (or Love)

By Daniel Carlson | Posted Under Guides | Comments (75)



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In an interview with The New Yorker that ran in October 2001, a month after she died, renowned film critic Pauline Kael said: “I still don’t look at movies twice. It’s funny, I just feel I got it the first time. With music it’s different. People respond so differently to the whole issue of seeing a movie many times. I’m astonished when I talk to really good critics, who know their stuff and will see a film eight or ten or twelve times. I don’t see how they can do it without hating the movie. I would.” That kind of brash commitment is typical of Kael, but though she was a fantastic critic, the sentiment’s a remarkably myopic one. Many times, it’s possible to see a film and know that you “got it the first time,” but any critic can only ever bring their current experience, knowledge, and understanding to the table when they review a film. I’m not just talking about familiarity with film form here; I’m talking about the life events that shape us, that hew our worldview out of rock and make us who we’ll eventually be. All of which is a pretty vague and pseudo-philosophical way of saying: sometimes we get it wrong. For one reason or another, we’ll praise a film (or TV series) only to realize later that it’s hopelessly puerile; other times, we’ll deride a film only to discover its hidden depths, locked away until we’d gotten older, wiser, smarter, or just able to see the truth.

I understand Kael’s reluctance to admit what she probably viewed as defeat; after all, for a critic to admit a mistake might, for the small-minded or narrowly focused, call into question their entire body of work. But it turns out that the opposite is true. When you revisit film and television over time, you can examine it anew, testing it to see if it’s truly as bad or good as you once felt it to be or if instead you were guilty of judging it too soon. It’s comforting to go back and see that some classics never change, and that some flops will always be thus; but it can be just as refreshing to gain new perspective on old art. — DC


Anchorman_guide.jpgAnchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy: Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy came out in the summer of 2004. I was just a few weeks out of college, soldiering through a predictably unpleasant tour of duty waiting tables at a steakhouse in Texas just to get the scratch together to move to Los Angeles. I’d just spent two years doing movie reviews for the school newspaper and knew that I wanted to continue writing about movies as much as possible. Like every 21-year-old, my head was firmly wedged up my ass. I knew movies, man, and I knew what was good, and I didn’t need your little Will Ferrell comedy. Sure, it might have some cute moments, but I need my comedy with pathos. I need those laughs to come through tears, man! Give me a sad clown! Someone play some Nico!

So I resisted Anchorman, cutting myself off from it willfully, refusing to engage with it or think about it. I wrote it off as puerile and popped in an obscure DVD and felt miles smarter than everyone else. Of course, I eventually revisited the film and realized what a fool I’d been. (Again, I ask the jury to remember that I was 21, still unable to admit that true knowledge is recognizing how much you still have to learn.) The film is pure, unfiltered hilarity, and the best and strongest version of the 1970s-era machismo Ferrell started trotting out on “Saturday Night Live” in his Robert Goulet and Neil Diamond impressions. This is his ur-character, a hairy, insane guy who’s remarkably conservative but ultimately soft and lovable. The supporting cast is a murderer’s row of comic players, and every bit of the script (credited to Ferrell and director Adam McKay) is sillier and weirder than viewers had any right to expect. As McKay would later say in a talking-head quasi-doc about “Saturday Night Live,” Ferrell has a brilliant knack for tearing down “that barrier between funny-strange and funny-ha-ha.” Anchorman is just crazy enough to work, and though Ferrell and McKay have been trying to put lightning back in a bottle ever since, it’s uncertain they ever will. This one surprised us all, including them; any follow-up can do nothing but fall short. The film opened me up to the easy joy of wacky comedy, and the way it could be smart and stupid at the same time. It helped me realize I’d been far too limiting in my assessment of good and bad, and that rewatchability is often a sign that the film is doing something right. Anchorman is perfectly silly, effortlessly breezy, and always a pleasure to watch.

And that was the last mistake I ever made. Ever. In life. — Daniel Carlson


Archer_guide.jpg“Archer”: I’ve been fans of Adam Reed and Matt Thompson since before there even existed the medium for twentysomething stoners to haze off to slumber amidst the flickering profanities of the Adult Swim network. “Sealab 2021” took maybe six episodes to find its sealegs and then it just went absolutely batshit brilliant. “All That Jazz” is still one of the greatest things I’ve seen on television. Similarly, I’ve been an H. Jon Benjamin fan since the days of “Dr. Katz,” and I still firmly believe that Coach McGuirk is the best character, animated or otherwise, to appear on television. So I come from a place of sheer insanity.

When “Sealab 2021” lost Harry Goz, it still had some momentum, and while Tornado Shanks has his moments, “Sealab 2021” was dead in the water. The two fellas then started in on “Frisky Dingo,” an unfortunate show with an outstanding villain in Killface. But I never got into “Dingo” — I just thought it was a poor attempt to rehash the lunacy of the weaker, later episodes of “Sealab,” only with a shittier leading man. Some people like it, but those are usually the ones who like their coffee laced with letters: PCP, THB, LSD, or SH-T.

For some reason, FX pops up with “Archer,” a spy show featuring the voice of H. Jon Benjamin as a superspy. Most people have never seen the handsome devil that is Jon, but I have, and it was hard for to me to envision his gravelly voice and imp-like image as a Bond hero. This was the same voice that had been a drunken overweight soccer coach, an alien lifeform, a schlubby convenience store clerk, and a can of beans. I started to watch the pilot and made it about halfway through before I gave up. It felt like a cheesy version of “Frisky Dingo,” only with more dick jokes.

My mistake. When it came out on Netflix, I gave it another And I was wrong. I was so wrong. It was amazing. It had the whipcrack smarts of “Arrested Development” with the completely horrifyingly cruel wit of “Sealab.” It basically could go bad places that non-animated series couldn’t, and so it did. The voice acting is tremendous, the characters are just terrible fucking people doing bad things to each other, and it suddenly made sense how it found a home on FX. This was the network that gave us Paddy’s Pub and Denis Leary as a dickhead fireman. And I was hooked.

Since I lack cable, I’ve not been able to watch Season 2 and see if they kept up the momentum or lost it. But my biggest fear is that H. Jon Benjamin has totally overspread himself — he’s also doing “Bob’s Burgers,” and he’s also starting a new show that’s cast virtually every actor in L.A. (except me) called “Jon Benjamin Has A Van” which is live action. Typical. It’s usually the things I like that die a horrible death. — Brian Prisco

Friends_guide.jpg“Friends”: Back in the 1990s, this show was all the mainstream rage, but I resisted falling prey to the hysterical “Ross and Rachel” dynamic and (most importantly) to the ridiculous Rachel hairdo. These days, the show’s reruns stream on the WB website, and I’d be lying if I didn’t admit to catching an episode or two per week. While I’m still resisting most things that have to do with both whiny Rachel and dinosaur-obsessed Ross, I have grown quite fond of the remaining four ensemble characters. Hell, I even thrill to the sight of Chandler’s endlessly cycling weight and have found that Monica is merely an amplified version of my own neurotic self. Plus, both Phoebe and Joey are dim bulbs but know how to step up their charisma at just the right moments. Overall, the ten seasons of this show now warm my little black heart even if the series finale was a little too wrapped up with a Monica-styled bow. Admittedly however, most of my guilty pleasure that comes from watching this old popular culture standby has to do with the steady, often amusing supply of guest stars: Sean Penn, Bruce Willis, Reese Witherspoon, Christina Applegate, Paul Rudd, Brad Pitt, and so many more. Also, Morgan Fairchild and Kathleen Turner as Chandler’s parents? Hilarious. — Agent Bedhead

Mulholland_guide.jpgMulholland Dr.: I can remember sitting in Milwaukee’s last picture palace, The Oriental, in the spring of 2001, gearing up to watch David Lynch’s Mulholland Drive. My exposure to Lynch, at that point, had been fairly limited. I think I had only seen Lost Highway (1997) and, as DVD was still a relatively up and coming medium at the time, many Lynch titles had yet to be remastered or released as catalog titles, so they were difficult to find at my small Port Washington video store. So, I sat in front of the white movie screen, unsure of what I was going to encounter and praying to God it wasn’t going to be the horrifying Robert Blake wearing pancake mix on his face. The first time around, I was on board with Mulholland Dr. until the psychotic break following the Club Silencio sequence. I had my bearings; I knew enough about detective movies at the time to get some of the homages. Essentially, I felt as if I was in the know. Then, Lynch pulled the rug out from underneath me. Characters and their relationships to one another became redefined and I simply did not have the vocabulary or critical training to grapple with the frustration wrought upon me by surrealist filmmaking. As a senior in high school, I just didn’t have the training or the context. The film pissed me off, and, furiously, I tried to embellish my critical arsenal so that when Mulholland Dr. and I met on the white void of the screen again, I would not be made a fool of. I began working my way through his filmography, I started reading Sigmund Freud (cue Joe Esposito’s “You’re the Best Around” for my film critic training montage) and books about Lynch, and I even ordered a bootleg of the “Twin Peaks” pilot from China. When I finally dueled with the film again, once again at the Oriental, I finally understood it within the matrix of dream logic. I pieced it together with friends, forming an analysis that my college roommate at UW-Milwaukee would later challenge and help me refine. Mulholland Dr. is not a film to be taken literally; it is very much the embodiment of a subjective experience that pushes the viewer to make sense of their own reality. In my case, a stronger, more critical filmgoer. — Drew Morton

Dead_Man_guide.jpgDead Man: I think it took me six tries before I was actually able to sit through all of the 1995 Jim Jarmusch film Dead Man. I’d always been a fan of the director’s work, and after hearing from some source I respected that it was a great movie, I couldn’t have been keener. Alas, entry into the movie was impossible for me: I’d get ten minutes into it one time, fifteen minutes the next, and then thirteen minutes, and then listless and demoralized, like I was on a long, desolate drive to nowhere, I’d quit. Devoid of irony, there was a leaden brutality, a kind of deadness to the film that I found entirely oppressive, and I was certain that I had stumbled into a failed art house film, an intentionally difficult movie that would only appeal to the pretenses of those who liked, well, intentionally difficult film. But then something clicked, and suddenly I saw before me a mesmerizing and strange work of genius.

A trippy, existential Western infused with the amoral sentiments of a Cormac McCarthy novel, Dead Man traverses a vast and alien landscape that’s in the process of being cannibalized by those who would inhabit it. Shot entirely in black-and-white, it’s a beautiful film that sends out a mythic pulse that penetrates the audience on an almost subliminal level. The brilliant soundtrack by Neil Young, as lonely and desolate as a car burning by the side of the road, was a character unto itself, and Johnny Depp — just before his persona began to dominate his still excellent acting — was a simultaneously innocent and psychopathic presence, like a silent film star. The experience of the movie was like drifting toward a kind of outer space. Pushing west and reaching ever outward, boundaries fell away until there was nothing but sky above and water below, revealing an astonishment of beauty and mystery. — Michael Murray


robertdowneyironman2.jpgIron Man 2: Because of when I review films (typically an early showing on Fridays), the screenings I attend tend not to be crowded. For a critic, this is double-edged. It’s good because I’m unlikely to have my opinion tainted by obnoxious or loud movie-goers or ringing cell phones, but bad because I’m deprived of the huge movie crowd experience. A large boisterous crowd can occasionally be so infectious as to make a bad movie seem good. This is particularly true of comedies and horror films, where a good audience can work like laugh tracks, eliciting cheers in all the right places. (The converse is also true: Like laugh tracks, people laughing can be obnoxious and grating in a film like Meet the Fockers or Big Momma’s House). Films like Drag Me to Hell and The Blair Witch Project I saw with the right crowds, but I saw them both a second time in theaters with much smaller ones, and the experiences weren’t nearly as fun. This was also true of Iron Man 2, which I caught at a crowded midnight screening where the audience was pumped-up and rowdy, cheering at all the right moments. I left the theater and immediately wrote up my review, delirious from lack of sleep and riding high on the adrenaline fumes of the crowd. So giddy with that excitement, I barely stopped long enough to consider Iron Man 2 critically. I gave it a glowing review and posted it immediately.

Within 24 hours, and after a few winks of sleep, I was already beginning to regret that review. Iron Man 2, of course, was mediocre at best. It was charmless, overlong, and thanks to the Avengers digressions, disjointed, less a sequel to the magnificent Iron Man and more a shameless commercial for an eventual Avengers movie. It had lost its energy, but the crowd I was with filled in those gaps. I still give that moviegoing experience a glowing notice, but before the opening weekend was even over, I was embarrassed by the effusive review for such a rotten, lifeless sequel. — Dustin Rowles


Signs_guide.jpgSigns: When I first saw Signs, it managed both to terrify me and make me think. I used to defend it at length, because its flaws as a science fiction film were made up for by its strengths as a horror film meditating upon the nature of faith. I still maintain that it is an incredibly effective horror film, an exercise in allowing you to suddenly see something in the corner of the screen at the same moment as the point of view character. But as a film about faith, my opinion has gradually deteriorated. It hinges on a very simple nuance: a crisis of faith cannot be mended by evidence, and yet that is the precise nature of the film’s twist ending. Graham (Mel Gibson) loses faith in God and the universe when his wife senselessly dies, victim of an accident with no one to blame, and her last words seem to reflect the pointlessness of the universe; “neurons randomly firing,” he describes it later. When Graham comes to believe that her words did have meaning, that the event indirectly helps save their children, he again finds his faith. But that’s a siren call, a child’s view of the universe. It’s answering the question of why bad things happen by just denying that bad things actually happen, that terrible things happen only in order to make good things happen later. Graham only has faith because his wife’s death has direct and tangible meaning, which is the antithesis of faith. It is abject cynicism. — Steven Lloyd Wilson









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Comments

God, Signs is the absolute king of this phenomenon, for me at least. Loved it the first time I saw it and was bored to the brink of suicide the second time.

Posted by: Todd at April 21, 2011 2:59 PM

Wow. These are great. I enjoyed reading all of them, folks.

Posted by: DarthCorleone at April 21, 2011 3:09 PM

I've enjoyed this excercise greatly. I should like to see more of it.

Posted by: superasente at April 21, 2011 3:12 PM

I hated Dumb and Dumber the first time I saw it. Don't know why. Eventually I loved it to the point that I watched it nearly every day for an entire summer with my trusty Two Bongs Don't Make a Right.

Posted by: Kballs at April 21, 2011 3:13 PM

I actually know which episode of Friends the still is from: That's MISS Chanandler Bong

Posted by: Mrs. Julien at April 21, 2011 3:16 PM

*sigh* At least one of the serious writers on this site would revisit a certain Star Trek movie and admit they really just got caught-up with the crowd and the lens-flare.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at April 21, 2011 3:16 PM

Oh, and they are watching the coin toss.

Posted by: Mrs. Julien at April 21, 2011 3:18 PM

*I wish


It took me four tries to finally "get" Royal Tennenbaums.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at April 21, 2011 3:19 PM

I didn't dislike "Justified," I just didn't bother with the first season. I watched the first episode of this season and began kicking my fool ass for being so stupid.

Jury is still out on "Firefly," though.

Posted by: Tracer Bullet at April 21, 2011 3:22 PM

I only recently started watching The Office. Everyone else is way over it and uninterested in discussing it. Meanwhile, I cannot get enough and blurt things like, "What's up with that Creed guy?"

Posted by: HopeHope at April 21, 2011 3:22 PM

I had the same experience with Anchorman. I was like "really ANOTHER Will Ferrell comedy?" and predictably, upon my first viewing found it to be stupid. I'm not really sure when the change occurred but I caught it again at a friend's house and couldn't believe I had overlooked such a masterpiece. It is now a regular member of my multiple viewing movie selection and I quote it whenever possible. It almost makes me want to give Old School another shot. Almost.

Posted by: Even Stevens at April 21, 2011 3:23 PM

These make me happy. The initial review of Iron Man 2 broke my heart. Made me feel old for being disappointed in the movie.

Season 2 of Archer is on Hulu. It was, like, 6 weeks delayed but it's there now. I think it's still awesome.

Posted by: SBrown at April 21, 2011 3:26 PM

Well unlike Rowles, I saw Iron Man2 and before I could exit the theater I knew it was a piece of shit. But at least he was honest enough to admit that the crowd’s reaction dictated his review. Now I’m left wondering what other movie reviews has Rowels let the audience write?

Posted by: Pookie at April 21, 2011 3:29 PM

Gawd, Anchorman bored the hell out of me when I saw it in the theater. The timing seemed off, the jokes didn't hit, and the only funny scene for me was the rumble.

But then, I saw it again. And it absolutely slayed me. Ferrell was aces, the supporting actors dead-on, and I've been quoting it ever since.

I sincerely do NOT know what happened between the first and second viewing. I distinctly did not like it at first. Then, without even a warning shot across the bow, it made me spit out my drink and chant, Greek-chorus-like, along with each previously nonsensical line of dialogue.

Still scratching my head. In the meantime, stay classy, San Diego. This is Tits McGee, signing off.

Posted by: Meggrs at April 21, 2011 3:31 PM

I avoided both BSG and Firefly like they were infested with some sort of malignant strain of hipster herpes. I can admit when I am wrong. Once.

Posted by: admin at April 21, 2011 3:32 PM

Now I’m left wondering what other movie reviews has Rowels let the audience write?
Posted by: Pookie at April 21, 2011 3:29 PM

You and me both, I can think of at least one right off the top.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at April 21, 2011 3:33 PM

I feel the same way about From Justin to Kelly.

Posted by: Squirt at April 21, 2011 3:33 PM

and I still firmly believe that Coach McGuirk is the best character, animated or otherwise, to appear on television.

YES. ALL THE YES.

Posted by: TylerDFC at April 21, 2011 3:34 PM

I had this experience with Futurama. I caught the beginning of its run in 1999 when I was back in high school and just totally didn't get it. Thought it was stupid and pointless. Caught the re-runs on Comedy Central a few years ago and realized that it was an awesome and funny show.

Posted by: Nimeu at April 21, 2011 3:34 PM

I'm still not sure that I love Bottle Rocket but I've really warmed up to it since my first viewing.

Posted by: Optimus Rhyme at April 21, 2011 3:37 PM

admin,

Two shows. Two times wrong.

Posted by: Kballs at April 21, 2011 3:42 PM

The only time I can remember where the audience elevated the movie for me was Die Hard 2. That screening on a packed opening night was incredible. When McClane finally gets the gun on the walkway and shoots the right-on-his-ass terrorist the audience went berserk. The cheered for a good minute. There were many scenes like that. There was no talking, just cheering,laughing, and clapping. I came home convinced 2 kicked the shit out of Die Hard. Then I watched it at home and was like "huh". And that was as a teenager. Last time I watched the series in order was before Live Free or Die Hard. And Die Hard 2 is actually worse than Live Free. McClane is unlikable, the effects suck, it is just an incredibly stupid and mean spirited movie. But damn if that wasn't a fantastic screening.

Posted by: TylerDFC at April 21, 2011 3:46 PM

Had a similar experience with L.A. Confidential. Actually found it boring the first go-round. Watched it last year again - total brilliance. No idea why it didn't stick that first time.

Posted by: samantha t at April 21, 2011 3:48 PM

*sigh* At least one of the serious writers on this site would revisit a certain Star Trek movie and admit they really just got caught-up with the crowd and the lens-flare.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at April 21, 2011 3:16 PM


Rowles, tell your people to stay away. Stay away now, don’t … don’t come in here. Whatever you hear, stay away! John “BSlim” Doe has the upper hand! John “BSlim” Doe has the upper hand!


Posted by: Pookie at April 21, 2011 3:48 PM

When I was younger I hated grand, sweeping, over-the-top, romantic melodramas. And I was therefore pissed about the back to back Oscar wins for The English Patient and Titanic. I was all, "whatever happened to subtlety?" and whatnot. And you know, maybe those movies are really silly. But at some point I started to get really into silent cinema. Those epics from the first thirty years of the century are just so full of melodrama. Now when I see modern movies cut from the same cloth, it kind of makes me really happy. They're just kind of keeping up with the same tradition of the spectacle that's been a part of movies since the beginning of the art form.

Posted by: Cree83 at April 21, 2011 3:52 PM

Pookie: That was FANTASTIC.

Posted by: TylerDFC at April 21, 2011 3:53 PM

I remember when I saw "The Fifth Element" the first time I hated it. I was expecting a "Blade Runner" type of sci-fi flick. Serious. Gritty. That was not "The Fifth Element." When I watched it again, knowing what it was, I really enjoyed and now watch it whenever it comes on cable.

Multi-Pass!

Posted by: Forbiddendonut at April 21, 2011 3:54 PM

I had the same experience with Anchorman and Archer as well-and both are in my top five lists of favorite tv and movie comedies of all time.

Posted by: Julie at April 21, 2011 3:55 PM

[puts on body armor]

The one movie that I LOVED as a child but find 100% unwatchable as an adult is... 'The Dark Crystal'.

Posted by: ahamos at April 21, 2011 3:57 PM

I remember when I saw "The Fifth Element" the first time I hated it. I was expecting a "Blade Runner" type of sci-fi flick. Serious. Gritty. That was not "The Fifth Element." When I watched it again, knowing what it was, I really enjoyed and now watch it whenever it comes on cable.
Multi-Pass!

Posted by: Forbiddendonut at April 21, 2011 3:54 PM

You do realize that Chris Tucker was in “The fifth Element” don’t you?

Posted by: Pookie at April 21, 2011 4:00 PM

I didn't get The Big Lebowski the first time I saw it. I went to a midnight showing with a bunch of friends, and thought it was possibly the stupidest movie ever. However, after The Boyfriend insisted I watch it again with him (it's his favorite) I realized that the first time I'd been watching purely to figure out what was going to happen next, and had missed out on all the totally brilliant little moments that occur once you're not really bothering with the plot anymore.

Posted by: Siege at April 21, 2011 4:03 PM

event horizon has grown on me over the years, a lot.

i would love this as a regular feature, re-evaluations for better or worse. articles looking at historic films that went from loved to meh, or badly reviewed to loved would be good too. think It's a Wonderful Life--big flop. lots of treasured, renowned films were flops in there early days.

dissing Signs is goddamned fighting words. frickin ape will meet you in the alley

Posted by: idleprimate at April 21, 2011 4:07 PM

@ahamos, i've found, as i've gotten older, I can only watch the Dark Crystal 2 or 3 times a year.. It used to be 4 or 5. perhaps i am slowly maturing

Posted by: idleprimate at April 21, 2011 4:09 PM

I hated The Mummy in theaters. Wasn't that fond of The Fifth Element either. But when you watch them again, and know what you are getting, it makes it a lot better. Both of those had crap marketing and made you think the movie was going to be serious. Yes, even with Chris Tucker.

Posted by: TylerDFC at April 21, 2011 4:11 PM

Ooh, I love discussions like this!

I hated Moulin Rouge the first time I saw it. All the frenetic editing, the crazy song choices (that cover of Nirvana's "Smells Like Teen Spirit" boggled my mind), the sheer spectacle of it all... I thought it was an abomination.

But my friends in choir loved it, and I was forced to watch it again, and I can't explain it but I fell in love with it. I guess I caught the whimsy the second time around. Now it's one of my absolute favorite movies, and I keep the soundtrack in rotation on my iPod.

Posted by: MelBivDevoe at April 21, 2011 4:41 PM


You do realize that Chris Tucker was in “The fifth Element” don’t you?

Posted by: Pookie at April 21, 2011 4:00 PM

The only thing he was ever good in.
~~~

Posted by: Meander at April 21, 2011 4:42 PM

I feel this way about most "popular comedies" that are actually brillant. If a whole group of people insist upon quoting anchorman at you and you haven't seen it you usually go in hating it. Such was the case for me, because everyday both male & female friends felt it necessary to think they had somehow obtained Will Ferrell status and were as funny as him. Now that I look back I realize I LOVE THAT MOVIE...it's brillant.

Though I still think Napolean Dynamite is a piece of shit movie and will never get why people love it.

Posted by: hoover19 at April 21, 2011 4:45 PM

You do realize that Chris Tucker was in “The fifth Element” don’t you?
Posted by: Pookie at April 21, 2011 4:00 PM
The only thing he was ever good in.
~~~
Posted by: Meander at April 21, 2011 4:42 PM

Mmmm, that and Friday.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at April 21, 2011 4:54 PM

I remember as a child watching Prince Planet cartoons, for some reason those particular cartoons had a very strong emotional effect on me. I wonder what would I feel if I were to watch them at this point in my life?



p.s. is it effect or affect? I tend to got those two goddamn words confused. I’m sure one of you conservative voting, oh I wish I would have listened to the Union and not voted conservative, unemployed teachers will set my ass straight.

Posted by: Pookie at April 21, 2011 5:24 PM

Mine is Wedding Crashers. I actually own Wedding Crashers, because the first time or two (I think it was two) that I saw it, it was HILARIOUS. I love Rachel McAdams, I actually kind of like Vince Vaughn (this is heavily influenced by being a Chicago sports fan and seeing him supporting our teams so much, I'll admit), and I seriously loved this movie.

And then I started getting way more into feminism, and reading more feminist literature, and then I watched Wedding Crashers again and realized that it is CHOCK FULL of rape as humor. Like, it's not just a one-off joke, this movie just SWIMS in rape jokes. And I don't write off movies that are a little misogynistic sometimes or make some sexist jokes. But I just cannot deal with the way this movie treats rape. I've only ever watched my DVD of it that one time when I realized what was going on, and I'll probably never watch it again.

Posted by: GwenBear at April 21, 2011 5:30 PM

Wow a very interesting topic that I've experienced many a time. Had the same feelings about Anchorman at first and now I'm feeling the need to rewatch Archer which I watched a few episodes of and quit on.

Posted by: Jimmy at April 21, 2011 5:32 PM

I saw right through Signs from the very beginning. I'm glad the world is catching up. Hopefully Forrest Gump is next.
I did think Ferris Bueller's Day Off and Predator were stupid when I saw them in the theater back in high school. I know better now.
Now I'm going to have to watch Anchorman again.

Posted by: dagnabbit at April 21, 2011 5:38 PM

Fargo, Big Lebowski and No Country for Old Men. It took me a while to get the Coens' sense of humour. Also, King of the Hill, I grew up watching the Simpsons and this just seemed boring in comparison, now I think it's hilarious.

Posted by: Steph at April 21, 2011 5:51 PM

For me it was actually Frisky Dingo, which even though Brian dismissed, I would still take out behind the middle school and impregnate. repeatedly (and who I might even call back the next day to copy their spanish hw).

Being as black of heart as I am, I could occasionally enjoy me some Adult swim (i hate animation of any kind, idkw). But it took me a while to let Frisky Dingo into my heart, and eventually, bed. I absolutely adore how wild, wickedly bizarre and outlandish it is. Frisky Dingo is perfect. I can AntFarmKeyBoard anyONE, anytime, with my master cylinder and they. will. love. it. BOOSH!

Posted by: beet salad at April 21, 2011 6:42 PM

oh pookie, my recent purchase of plasticman cartoons was an utter and dismal failure at rebelling in nostalgia. somethings need to be not revisited.

and dagnabit, I'm coming for you. maybe not tonight, maybe not tomorrow. but someday. someday. swing away.

Posted by: idleprimate at April 21, 2011 6:45 PM

p.s. is it effect or affect? I tend to got those two goddamn words confused. I’m sure one of you conservative voting, oh I wish I would have listened to the Union and not voted conservative, unemployed teachers will set my ass straight.

Pookie, I'm not conservative, nor am I a teacher, much less an unemployed one, but you used "effect" correctly. Your ass is fine.

Posted by: MelBivDevoe at April 21, 2011 6:51 PM

and I still firmly believe that Coach McGuirk is the best character, animated or otherwise, to appear on television.

YES. ALL THE YES.

Posted by: TylerDFC at April 21, 2011 3:34 pm

Count me a third on the "Home Movies" lurrve...now that H. Jon Benjamin and Loren Bouchard are collaborating again in "Bob's Burgers", I am super excited to be getting my weekly dose of weird/silly/crazy-funny again. More people need to watch that show, SERIOUSLY.

Posted by: Jessie at April 21, 2011 6:54 PM

p.s. is it effect or affect? I tend to got those two goddamn words confused. I’m sure one of you conservative voting, oh I wish I would have listened to the Union and not voted conservative, unemployed teachers will set my ass straight.

I'm no teacher, just a grammar geek:
effect = noun
affect = verb

Posted by: Jessie at April 21, 2011 6:55 PM

YES!! Finally, someone else on Earth understands the brilliance that is Sealab. Thank you, Prisco. You're totally wrong about the first six episodes, though. I,Robot was one of the best episodes ever made, and it's in the first six. Also, No one will ever replace Captain Murphy.

And Michael Murray, I've always loved Dead Man. It is the best Jarmusch. "Do you know my poetry?"

Posted by: John G. at April 21, 2011 7:25 PM

Funny you should mention ... I saw the movie "Student Bodies" (Google it, Amazon, whatever) long ago and thought it hilarious.

Bought the DVD a few months ago and watched it and ... not so hilarious. It has its moments, but it's really kinda like a community theater version of a horror spoof.

The best part is still when they stop it about halfway through and have a guy sitting at a desk explain why the movie got an R rating.

Posted by: Slash at April 21, 2011 7:26 PM

I have yet to see Anchorman for a second time so I'm still in the former category. I didn't think it was that great. But in the years since I've heard over and over how funny it is so I have been thinking I should try it again. Lord knows I've heard the whole movie again in snippets since then though.

The summation of Signs fits exactly with my progression on it too. It still scares the crap out of me (I'm weak), but the faith part I so admired as a youngster does not fit at all with the way I see things now. Plus it's Mel Gibson. Blech.

This post reminds me that I need to watch Barton Fink again. That movie did not go over well with my fresh out of high school self, but I'm hopeful.

Comedies that hold up surprisingly well after all these years: Austin Powers the first, and Wayne's World. I'm reminded of Wayne's World because that was my best theater crowd experience, opening night no less, and it's comforting that it's still funny on its own.

Posted by: katy at April 21, 2011 7:48 PM

I'm bummed because Adult Swim isn't showing Home Movies in the morning; we get another King of the Hill episode instead. So you *only* get like, six showings a night. Mike Judge must have the in right now.

I love Archer. LOVE.IT. Bob's Burgers is not even in the same universe as Archer (although I doubt Archer would work in Fox prime time.)

This is why we can't have nice things!

Posted by: Kelly O at April 21, 2011 9:44 PM

Ah, but Jessie, there are brain-bending exceptions to that rule. One can "effect [v.] change," for example, and in psychology, a "flat affect" (n.) is a symptom of certain disorders. (Sorry, Grammar Grannie moment there. But the affect/effect mess is pretty interesting.)

Back on topic, I've never been much of a movie re-watcher. Although, I do recall E.T. being a lot less terrifying when I was 25 than when I was 5...

Posted by: meaux at April 21, 2011 9:55 PM

Even if you accept Shyamalan's vision of faith depicted in Signs, you have to deal with his actual plot:

God wants to save Mel Gibson's children from aliens. So months or years (can't remember) before the aliens show up, God kills Gibson's wife, making sure to make it a long and painful death - torture, really - so she can tell Gibson how to save their children, but makes the instructions sound like a bunch of nonsense. Gibson loses his faith, his children start to grow up without a mother. Finally, the aliens come. Gibson figures out the nonsense and saves his children.

Or, you know, God could have just MADE IT RAIN.

Posted by: Three-nineteen at April 21, 2011 10:01 PM

Well you guys have covered a lot of territory already, so I'm just going to add:

"BOOSH!", I peed in McGurk's canteen, and Sterling Archer can come by for a drink and an escort anytime.

Yes. They're called "escorts". To their faces.

Boosh.

Posted by: Green Lantern at April 21, 2011 10:07 PM

the second season of archer is not as over the top batshit crazy as the first one. They've toned down the sex and violence.

Posted by: logan at April 21, 2011 10:53 PM

four words
Rocky Horror Picture Show

Posted by: Protoguy at April 22, 2011 1:32 AM

The header picture reminds me why I rather liked Mulholland Drive even though it made little sense to me. Laura Harring on Naomi Watts sex scenes!!

Posted by: Uriah Creep at April 22, 2011 6:42 AM

And vice-versa!!

Posted by: Uriah Creep at April 22, 2011 6:43 AM

I also didn't care for Archer the first time through. It seemed like some funny moments strung together with stuff that was trying to hard to be bizarre. Second time through, it clicked more.

I had the same thing the first time I watched Julie Taymor's Titus. I was like, "WTF just happened?! That was RIDICULOUS." But, it stayed in my head, and I watched it again some time later, and have loved it ever since.

Posted by: Anna von Beav at April 22, 2011 8:48 AM

I am a huge Home Movies fan. Loved the kids, the adults were hilarious and the premise was genius. Love the Rock Opera they made about Kafka, well loved every episode. I was pretty upset when they stopped making it squiggle vision.

Posted by: daria at April 22, 2011 9:26 AM

I've seen Signs twice and it never, ever stops being hilarious to me. I laugh at the entire movie, except for the mom death scene. It's just so ridiculous. The only part I really enjoyed was Joaquin Phoenix as Captain Crazypants with his little tin foil hat.

I hated, absolutely hated Moulin Rouge. However, I will admit that I don't hate it as much as I once did. It's not a favorite, but it doesn't cause moments of rage anymore, so that's an improvement.

Bedhead, I didn't watch the early seasons of Friends when they first aired. One day, I received the first 3 seasons on DVD and ran through them in less than a week. Now Friends is one of my favorite shows, at least through season 8.

Posted by: Melody at April 22, 2011 11:54 AM

Yes to Rocky Horror and Moulin Rouge, both of which I hated with all the bile in my belly (which was uncalled for, as a Theatre kid).

And to Slash: I happened upon Student Bodies on the t.v. during one of the many days I stayed home "sick" in high school. I thought it was absolutely hilarious. Mouth breather? Gold. At the time I searched like crazy for a copy, but was never able to find any information (let alone anyone else who had ever seen or heard of it). It has been in my unsolved mysteries file for many years now. You have reminded me of my delayed quest! One which I will...likely be annoying and irritating to watch, but is necessary, nonetheless.

Posted by: beet salad at April 22, 2011 12:14 PM

With Rocky Horror it's more "Totally awesome with a crowd and drunk but sucks ass when sober at home"

Posted by: Protoguy at April 22, 2011 12:59 PM

"I'm gonna kill that kid with the gum!"

Posted by: Protoguy at April 22, 2011 12:59 PM

"Now I’m left wondering what other movie reviews has Rowels let the audience write?
Posted by: Pookie at April 21, 2011 3:29 PM

You and me both, I can think of at least one right off the top."


You guys are kinda mean to Dustin.

Posted by: klingonfree at April 22, 2011 1:28 PM

Say whatever you like, I fucking hated Mulholland Drive. I was studying film in college, and this is one I tried to tackle outside the curriculum. It turned me into a theatre major. Because I'm almost guaranteed safety from "Mulholland Drive: the Musical!"

*cue overture and my immediate breakdown

Posted by: ShagEaredVillain at April 22, 2011 5:02 PM

oh and Frisky Dingo kicked ass for the first few eps, but when he and Awesome X were both blind and naked making sweat shop toys, feh. But him killing the two douchebag commercial producers and making the asst pick up the pieces dressed as a geisha. Brilliant!

"Postcards?! Postcards are the dry hump of direct marketing!!"

Posted by: Protoguy at April 23, 2011 7:17 AM

I thought Signs was a comedy. It's one of my favorite movies and still makes me laugh.

Posted by: MaggieS at April 23, 2011 3:44 PM

"For me it was actually Frisky Dingo, which even though Brian dismissed, I would still take out behind the middle school and impregnate. repeatedly (and who I might even call back the next day to copy their spanish hw)."

Adding to the Frisky Dingo love. I didn't get it at all for the first few episodes and I quit it. A few months later a friend of mine mentioned this show he found hilarious and it was FD. So I gave it another chance, watched the first season all the way through and fuck if I didn't laugh till I cried. I thought the Exticles were definitely my favorite part. The banter between them all the time is ridiculous.

Xtacle 1: Oh my fucking god.
Xtacle 2: What are we going to do?
Xtacle 1: Well for starters, I don't think it was a good idea to agree to have remote controlled explosives put in our necks.
Xtacle 2: Well, where were you at contract time?
Xtacle 1: At your mom's house.
[Xtacle #2 pulls gun]
Xtacle 1: Cleaning! I was only cleaning!
Xtacle 2: [Xtacle #2 puts away gun] Yeah, that's what I thought.
Xtacle 1: [Xtacle #1 draws his gun] Her vagina!

Posted by: Alex00 at April 23, 2011 10:07 PM

Mulholland Dr. was released October 2001

Posted by: Ross at April 23, 2011 10:43 PM

Mulholland Dr. was released October 2001

Really? That's what you brought to the table? Thanks for stopping by.

I'd have to second The Big Lebowski. First time I saw it, I turned it off halfway through. Few years later I gave it another whirl, and now I can quote it in my sleep. It's become a borderline obsession of mine.

Posted by: Horvath at April 24, 2011 9:28 AM

My biggest problem with signs (I said biggest, not only. It was like an all you can eat buffet of stupidity), was the scene where Mel has confirmed there is an Alien in the Cupboard (soon to be released by Zemekis featuring his patented Creepify technology, NOW IN 3D!). No, not that he trapped him there, but that he then cut off it's finger and 1. the alien didn't destroy the antique, rotten door and give Mel a probing with Joaquin's bat and 2. that Mel then went home and had nash taters with the fam instead of calling the national guard or the fbi or a friggin traffic cop. You know, like the lady cop who wanted his sacrament in her holy grail.

Posted by: Protoguy at April 25, 2011 10:19 AM

I absolutely LOVE Archer and have watched it to tattered pieces!

Posted by: CranAppleSnapple at May 1, 2011 11:44 AM

Sploosh :)

Posted by: CranAppleSnapple at May 1, 2011 11:46 AM