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X-Men Origins: Wolverine / TK

Film Reviews | May 1, 2009 | Comments (109)


Where does one begin with this film? There’s a difficult conundrum when it comes to movies based on comic books. Do you review the film as a fan, as a reader of the comics? Or do you review the film in a vacuum, regardless of whether you’ve read the comics? Is that even possible? However, regardless of what perspective one takes, there’s one important fact about X-Men Origins: Wolverine that is pretty much incontrovertible:

It’s fucking stupid. Completely, utterly ridiculous. Worse still? It could have been not just good, but great, using the exact same tools. Beware, there will be slight spoilers in here, but that’s just as well, because you should avoid this goddamn mess anyway.

For those who missed both X-Men movies (I choose to pretend that Ratner’s X3 was simply a fever dream, or a whiskey-blackout nightmare), Wolverine is a mutant who’s powers include rapid healing, animal-like senses, claws that extend from his knuckles and the occasional berserker rage. X-Men Origins: Wolverine is, not surprisingly, about Logan / Wolverine’s origins, how he came to become a part of the Weapon X program, which is where he also gained an unbreakable adamantium skeleton and claws, and why he showed up at Professor X’s doorstep decades later with no memory of his past life. The film chronicles his early years with his friend and half-brother Victor Creed, as they run away from home in the wake of a tragedy caused by a young Logan. It goes on to show the two of them as they move through the years, never aging due to their advanced healing capabilities, until they are adults played by Hugh Jackman (Wolverine) and Liev Schreiber (Sabretooth). They’re soon drafted by William Stryker (Danny Huston) into the Team X program, a military program that trains mutants to become assassins/super soldiers. Among the other trainees are teleporter John Wraith (Will.I.Am of the Blackeyed Peas), electricity manipulator Chris/Bolt (Dominic Monaghan), strongman Fred Dukes/The Blob (Kevin Durand), swordsman/marksman/wiseass Wade Wilson/Deadpool (Ryan Reynolds) and super-fast shooter Agent Zero (Daniel Henney).

Together, they take on black ops missions until one day, Wolverine becomes disgusted with their methods and abandons ship, moving to Canada and taking up with the lovely Layla Silverfox (Lynn Collins), content to live the quiet life of a lumberjack. Eventually, of course, his past comes back to haunt him, his life is destroyed and he seeks to track down Stryker, gets his fancy new skeleton, and then turns to hunt down Sabretooth for revenge. There are double crosses and surprises (none of them surprising, all of them idiotic), and a big finish complete with the requisite explosions, pointless cameos that completely ruin the already-established time-line, and a lot of wasted talent.

That talent is the biggest source of frustration. There’s an immense amount of cool assembled here, and everyone actually acts quite well. Schreiber brings a great combination of menace and wild-assed violence to his role, and his grim smiles can make a man shudder a bit. Agent Zero is suitably dead-eyed and badass. Ryan Reynolds, for the seven or eight minutes he’s on screen, is hilarious and, despite the absence of a mask, perfect as Deadpool (until the dreadful, wretched end, that is). Hell, even that dick from the Black-Eyed Peas is pretty good. Taylor Kitsch of “Friday Night Lights” plays Gambit, who despite not belonging in this corner of the Marvel Universe at ALL (one of many ways they completely shit on the comic time-line), is actually not bad. And Danny Huston is phenomenal in everything, and no less so here. Actually, Jackman is probably the weakest part, and that’s more due to the writing than his acting skills.

And here’s where my rant really begins. The writing. E-fucking-gads, the writing is absolutely moronic. First of all, despite all of the talent assembled, other than Zero, Stryker, Wolverine and Sabretooth, no one has more than 10 minutes of total screen time. By the time the movie was over, I’d already forgotten that Dominic Monaghan was even in the film. Wolverine falls victim to the classic, ever-repeated mistake that comic book filmmakers make — cramming in too many characters. I’m sure it starts off as an effort to please the fans, but it ends up just being a gigantic clusterfuck, with no one getting enough time. Such is the case here. A perfectly compelling film could have been made simply focusing on Wolverine and Sabretooth, but instead, they decided to throw every single mutant they could think of, time-lines and logic be damned, into the film and shit on all of them. Seriously — Cyclops? Emma Frost (who is not only on screen for all of 3 minutes, but is now inexplicably one of the other character’s sister)? Why? WHY? WHY? Deadpool, one of the coolest and funniest characters in the Marvel universe, takes the worst of this beating and is rendered literally mute at the film’s end.

I will say this without reservation: If you are a Marvel Comics fan, this film will create a black rage within you that no amount of Iron Man films can cure. Should you manage to make it to the end, you will want to punch something so hard that your hand shatters, just to ease the pain in your skull. It’s that bad. You’re better off just watching the first 30 minutes, then going home. You know, while I don’t always agree with it, I can understand Hollywood’s need to do some retconning when adapting comics, because let’s be honest — some comic book ideas are just goofy. But the trick is to make those changes fo good reasons, and if you do, you can still produce a decent piece. Constantine completely trampled the “Hellblazer” comics to pieces, but they made a half-decent movie. Blade barely resembled the comic, but again, success. Perhaps it’s because they’re lesser-knowns. Or, perhaps it’s the the Wolverine writers are simply lazy hacks. Perhaps it’s because director Gavin Hood, who gave us the phenomenal Tsotsi, was simply in over his head.

Even if one manages to ignore the brutal blows to the canon, the film is still just… dumb. Worse still, it’s boring. Frustratingly so, because the first 30 minutes or so are actually pretty slick. A lot of balls-out Wolvie/Sabretooth violence, Deadpool in full hellion mode, and Danny Huston as the sinister puppetmaster. And everyone nails their respective roles. It was 20 minutes in when I found myself saying, “Hot diggity, we might have another winner on our hands.”

20 minutes later, that thought had evaporated, to be replaced by the above mentioned black rage. Wolverine is once again reduced to a depressed boyfriend, albeit one with some minor anger management problems. The writing is all over the place — one minute he’s a cold-blooded killer, the next he’s a tortured, lovesick pup. The only ones who escape with any semblance of cohesion are Schreiber and Huston — both superior actors anyway, I suspect, but also the only well-written characters.

Finally, the action bears mention. It’s a decidedly mixed bag, thanks in no mall part to some uninspired special effects and drab cinematography. Again, the opening sequences are impressive. But then, perhaps to try to accommodate for the lousy writing, they simply ratchet things up, throw a few more mutants into the mix, and blow some shit up. The finale is so breathtakingly awful, I wanted to start shooting at the screen. It combined the very worst examples of how not to write a movie ending. Don’t resort to cheap plot twists. Don’t resort to explosions. Don’t kill off important characters. The plot twists are actually somewhat surprising — not because they kept the big reveals hidden so well, or because the writing was so clever, but because they’re so goddamn, shitballs stupid that they are unnecessary. You’re not surprised because it’s so shocking, you’re surprised at the depths of the writer’s rampant idiocy and their willingness — nay, their dedication — to resorting to cheap ideas in the hopes of maintaining audience interest. Yes, when Wolverine jumps on the helicopter, it’s kind of cool. Unfortunately, the sequence that leads up to that feels rushed, poorly designed and thought up by howler monkeys on acid. The final battle is even worse. For those who don’t want to know, or haven’t read any of the online spoilers, skip to the next paragraph. For the rest… here goes: Stryker somehow steals a bunch of powers of other mutants, and gives them to Deadpool. He now has claws, and a healing factor, and can shoot optic blasts like Cyclops. It’s a lame tactic that gives us nothing less than a weak, unimpressive climax. The finale is a mess, a slapped-together affair that does little right — the set design is boring, the fight scene is plodding, and Deadpool just looks flat-out ridiculous. If you make it past that and sit through the credits, you’re treated to a brief final scene that… well, adds absolutely nothing to the film. So at least there’s that.

I can rave no more. I don’t know that I can say that X-Men Origins: Wolverine is worse than X3, because at the very, very least it doesn’t rely on tired dialogue clichés like “Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned” or “What have I done?!” But it’s guilty of even worse crimes — taking an absolutely A+ cast, letting them give very good, if limited, performances, and then writing them all into the goddamn ground. You already have one of the greatest rivalries, between Wolverine and Sabretooth. Deadpool is already a fantastic character. Rather than use the already compelling story lines, they just throw the kitchen sink into it, and we’re left to watch it drown in it’s own excess. For that is the greatest sin here — taking a promising, popular concept and trying to inject it with magical movie steroids. Not surprisingly, it ends up pathetic and limp.


TK writes about music for Pajiba. He likes dogs, raising the dead, and tacos. You can email him here.


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Comments

So, did you like it?

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at May 1, 2009 2:14 PM

Apparently, they don't mind fucking around with historical timelines either. From Roger Ebert's review:
Their story starts in "1840 - the Northwest Territories of Canada," a neat trick, since Canada was formed in 1867, and the Northwest Territories in 1870."

Posted by: Anna von Beaverplatz at May 1, 2009 2:16 PM

It just impresses me that with all the amazing material that they still screwed the pooch.
Bang up job, Hollywood.
Keep up the great work.

Posted by: badalamenti at May 1, 2009 2:17 PM

I thought I might be able to like XMO:W (I'm not writing that shit) since, beyond the cartoon series, I've never really delved into the comics. But I just can't stand stupid. Can't fix it either.

A good reveiw TK. Thanks for sparing me some frustration.

Posted by: admin at May 1, 2009 2:19 PM

I was already not going to see this movie, but now I am fucking not going to see this movie. Thank you.

Posted by: dia at May 1, 2009 2:19 PM

I am Jack's total lack of surprise.

Posted by: GILP at May 1, 2009 2:20 PM

*sigh*

Posted by: twig at May 1, 2009 2:22 PM

DANG!! I was REALLY hoping this would be Iron Man awesome! Yet another reason I'll be drinking heavily this weekend :-(

...wait, I mean :-D

Posted by: Gnaius at May 1, 2009 2:22 PM

I refuse to believe this is Marvel Films fault, I put this squarley on the shoulders of FOX and their continued option on the X-Men franchise. They haven't had a good movie in years, it's at the point where if I see Fox is behind it I avoid the film in question. Fuck Tom Rothman.

Posted by: TylerDFC at May 1, 2009 2:28 PM

You know, this could have been a more introspective character exploration of what Wolverine/Logan is all about. Which is not to say that it needed to skimp out on the action. Why the need to overload it with so many characters? They just made another X-Men. That's exactly what they did.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at May 1, 2009 2:31 PM

God, I hate Hollywood. The only thing worse than seeing cinematic abortions like this hit the silverscreen is the fact that they get so much hype, and that this movie will undoubtedly top the box office charts (I am STILL getting over the fact that Ghost Rider did that). While I agree on the whole kitchen sink routine being not only insulting but fucking ridiculous, I hope they keep going with it. Fuck it, go crazy. In the sequel (and there MUST be one), Wolverine should pair up with the Avengers, because, you know, they all went to college together (just fucking retcon it!!!) Next up, the Watchmen. Don't even stay in the same universe! The possibilities are endless. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go pray the apocalypse hits before the trailers for this come out reporting that it's "the #1 movie in the country!!!" I'll see you all in Hell. I hear Spider-man 3 is real hit down there.

Posted by: Savage Henry at May 1, 2009 2:31 PM

Hey, we've still got The Green Hornet to look forward to!!!

Posted by: Kballs at May 1, 2009 2:34 PM

Ok, THIS is the sort of movie that should be remade. Ones that DIDN'T do it right the first time. Not old favourites and classics that can't and or shouldn't be improved on. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS INDUSTRY?!

I do not understand.

Posted by: dsbs at May 1, 2009 2:38 PM

Hmm. I wish Hugh Jackman would get more good films. I think he's fantastic, but he ends up in terrible action films.

Posted by: kelsy at May 1, 2009 2:41 PM

Did Lynn Collins do something tragic to her face in the past few years? Her imdb gallery's disturbing me.

Posted by: Jay at May 1, 2009 2:44 PM

Well, this was gonna be a spank film for me anyhow. Liev, Hugh, and Ryan? The perfect storm of hotness. I was torn if I was gonna have to go spank in the theater and scare the britches off some 8 year olds or wait to buy the film and do it in the safety of my own home. Apparently, since it's a flaming turd, I'll wait till I can Netflix it and put it on mute and provide my own... soundtrack.

Posted by: Big Red 34 at May 1, 2009 2:44 PM

Bwuh, how regrettable, but not unexpected considering all the advance fanboy grumbling. Thanks, TK, I'll catch this one on Showtime during some raging bender six months from now.

I'm Marvel over DC, but I'm also amateur geek, not professional, so I'll live through it.

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at May 1, 2009 2:45 PM

Taking bets!

This is going to make 129 million dollars this weekend. And Hollywood will continue to electorcute all of the fetuses until they are goo.

Turns out, you don't HAVE to abort them! Hollywood will take that shit off your hands, slap a PG-13 and "X-MEN ORIGINS" on the front and they're good to go.

And you know what, I'll fucking be there, opening night, and I'll wet myself.

Because god DAMN if Victor Creed ain't hott.

Posted by: annoyingmouse at May 1, 2009 2:53 PM

Yup. I watched this movie and I became extremely bored and pissed only 30 or so minutes into it. When you are a fan of the material that they have ravaged to make the green apple splatter that ends up on the screen, you can't help but allow it to color your view of things. However, you can forgive some things and enjoy movies like this if, as I believe has been said here before, the people in charge stay true to the character and some basic truths about them. This movie didn't stay true to anything but the promise of a paycheck.

Posted by: Pinky McLadybits at May 1, 2009 2:55 PM

The girlfriend really wants to see this. I told her it was going to suck. Per this review, I'm going to try lobbying her one more time to skip it. If I fail to convince her, I apologize in advance for contributing to the weekend box office.

Posted by: DarthCorleone at May 1, 2009 3:06 PM

lol I told you guys it was absolute shit.

Anyway, other than the obvious reasons why this movie sucked I've really been annoyed by how directors utilize flashback. Thanks for taking out several minutes to show me scenes I've already seen. Also what the fuck is up with them showing flashback scenes in third perspective? For fuck's sake directors these days suck at basic logic.

Posted by: Hurp Durp at May 1, 2009 3:09 PM

SPOILER!

I heard a rumor that at the end of the movie, after the credits, there are two alternate endings that vary by theater or showing or whatever. One is of Stryker getting bitch-slapped for being evil, and the other is Deadpool wandering the wreckage of the nuclear plant from the end of the film, and finding the severed head of the mute bald bastard that was supposedly him. If this is actually true, and they decided to make it so Deadpool wasn't figuratively raped and then literally killed, my heart just might swell a little bit towards Fox. They may have actually listened to the fans and not fucked something up so badly. One can only hope.

/SPOILER!

Posted by: Snath at May 1, 2009 3:10 PM

Of course it sucks. We all knew it would suck. It was obvious it would suck.

But you know what? I'm still gonna watch it. You couldn't keep me away. I will watch it, and I will gorge on popcorn and coke, and I will not feel guilty about any of it.

So there.

Also, I really liked X3.

Posted by: figgy at May 1, 2009 3:10 PM

I like the cut of your jib, figgy. This afternoon I will be in the theater, bouncing in my seat with anticipation like a little girl. Yes, I'm well aware of the reviews, but until I see it for myself, I'm excited. I'm gonna geek out so bad, even my fiance doesn't want to go with me.

Posted by: Melissa at May 1, 2009 3:15 PM

I'm writing this off as a sequel to Van Helsing...nothing but Hugh Jackman yelling in rage and throwing shit around.

Talent-wise, I can believe Huston & Schreiber are wasted. Is the man candy even worth it?

I don't know that much about the comics, but wasn't Emma Frost supposed to be one of the hottest, skankiest women in the Marvel universe? How old is she in this, 10?

Posted by: Brie at May 1, 2009 3:17 PM

I just looked up what I posted about above, and I was wrong. Still fucked, still stupid.

Fuck you, Fox.

Posted by: Snath at May 1, 2009 3:18 PM

I'm not going to see this movie and I won't read the comic books, so please answer these questions?

If Wolverine has spontaneous healing, why did he need to have an unbreakable adamantium skeleton inserted?

Wouldn't the regular skeleton that had served him well for over a 100 years just keep healing quickly if he broke something?

And speaking of spontaneous healing, when they tried to insert the unbreakable adamantium skeleton, wouldn't his body have rejected it and healed itself back to his regular old skeleton?

I'm way overthinking this, aren't I?

Wasn't he an amnesiac at the beginning of X-Men?
If he can forget his origins, then so shall I.

Posted by: BWeaves at May 1, 2009 3:20 PM

I will watch it, and I will gorge on popcorn and cocaine, and I will not feel guilty about any of it.

There figgy, I fixed your error. Now you don't have to explain all that X-men 3 nonsense.

Posted by: admin at May 1, 2009 3:20 PM

The biggest failure out of this...now we'll NEVER get the Magneto standalone movie, which could have been "The Reader...but with mutants and a PG-13 rating!". Which is exactly what Hollywood likes to do, besides drowning sacks full of kittens and lighting the stock market on fire.

Posted by: Doctor Controversy at May 1, 2009 3:21 PM

BWeaves>> In answer to your first question, I think it was to create a weapon out of him and not a case of need. Adamantium packs much more of a punch than a regular skeleton. His healing simply enabled him to be the one guy for whom such a transplant could be accomplishing.

Posted by: DarthCorleone at May 1, 2009 3:22 PM

BWeaves, his bones heal but they're still brittle. There's a scene in which sabertooth basically steps on his claws and breaks them.

Posted by: Hurp Durp at May 1, 2009 3:23 PM

Oh, har har.

But really, it's just that I will watch anything--anything with superheroes in it. They are my drug. I love me some superheroes. Specially the hot ones.

I mean, I even watched Daredevil, for fuck's sake. I hated it, but I watched it. I refuse to watch Flaming Skull Whatever the fuck with Nicolas Cage, however, because even I won't stoop that low.

But yeah, superheroes. And mutants. I will watch anything if it has superheroes or X-Men in it.

Posted by: figgy at May 1, 2009 3:25 PM

Did anyone think this movie *wouldn't* suck, even way back when it was announced?

Posted by: jon29 at May 1, 2009 3:26 PM

accomplished, that is

Posted by: DarthCorleone at May 1, 2009 3:26 PM

Oh, come on. Have they learned nothing from Spider-Man 3? Worst of all, they even made it boring. Spider-Man 3 was stupid as shit, but at least it wasn't ever boring. You can at least entertain people. I don't even mind if you're loyal or not, unless your material was written by Alan Moore, because improving on him would be like improving on George Orwell. Fuck you, FOX!

Posted by: George at May 1, 2009 3:27 PM

figgy, Ghost Rider was deliciously retarded.

Posted by: Hurp Durp at May 1, 2009 3:27 PM

BWeaves,

Wolverine didn't ask for the adamantium. He was used in an experiment by the Weapon X program and they forcibly applied it to his existing skeleton. And it turns out that his healing factor kept him from getting adamantium poisoning - I don't know why his body didn't reject the metal outright; but it kept him from getting sick while it was in his body.

As for the amnesiac storyline in the first movie, in the comics, Wolverine had false memory implants that were given to him during his time with the Canadian Defense Ministry. Also, I think that in his Origin storyline, they suggested that his past was so traumatic that his mind healed itself by blocking his memories. Or something like that.

Posted by: Melissa at May 1, 2009 3:29 PM

grew up marvel, **L O V E D** marvel.
but over the past decade, i've become a complete dc slut, thanks in part to batman and superman animated series, JL, JLU, BB, et al.
i'll still go see this and -even if- it's THAT bad, i'll still own it on dvd.

the difference in me now is -I- won't die if say, xavier does. marvel just lost me a long way back.

Posted by: gp at May 1, 2009 3:40 PM

Haven't seen the movie yet... how different is it from the one that showed up weeks ago?

Posted by: malechai at May 1, 2009 3:57 PM

It's not, malechai. Fox lied about it being an early release, it was the finished cut except for some effects that needed to be added.

Posted by: Snath at May 1, 2009 4:15 PM

Great work, TK! I shared your "howler monkeys on acid" remark with my coworkers. You win Quote of the Year in our sad little office. :-)

Our department (made of comic fans and comic... er, not-fans) had to do some post-post-work on this movie. What we all agreed on, was that if you could put aside the black, seething rage, this movie made for great MST3K fodder. Like most shitty movies, it was only not funny when it tried to be funny. (I mean, a Fat Bastard rip off??? REALLY???)

Then again, we get at least one torture porn flick a year, and most of our annual rage quotient gets focused on those.

Posted by: Shinykate at May 1, 2009 4:17 PM

I have decided not to see the theatrical version because the leaked version had silver surfer.

Posted by: Hurp Durp at May 1, 2009 4:18 PM

I'm not giving Fox another penny for their XMen movies. They are not making movies about the real XMen. They're just fucking with characters they don't understand.

The main problem, as I see it, is not the bad writing, so much as it is not comic book writing. It doesn't have a comic book feel to it. The recent Hulk Movie did. Iron Man kind of did (the awesomeness of RDJ kept distracting me!). I liked both of those.

But not one of those XMen movies had the charm or sense of outcast-ness of the comic, or even the notion of heroism in the face of fear and ignorance - when they finally got to the fear and ignorance, it was too late, and was merely a device to move the story forward. But that's the core of XMen, and to disregard it is to make a movie about similarly named characters, and that's all. Obviously, I loved the HELL out of that comic book. And I thought, with all those great stories, it would make a fun movie. But they fucked it up out of sheer laziness - go for the big boom and forget storytelling, history, logic, character, etc. Why? I don't know. People paid to see them all, and will continue to do so, but I'm going to keep my money in my pocket and my eyes on something better than that shit.

Posted by: Chickaboom at May 1, 2009 4:53 PM

No offence TK, but after reading some of your music reviews I’ll take my chances and go see this movie anyway.

Posted by: Guess who! at May 1, 2009 5:18 PM

So, um, no boobies?

Posted by: BierceAmbrose at May 1, 2009 5:23 PM

Hey Figgy,
McFarlene is thinking about reloading Spawn.
(shudders at the thought)
Would you watch that?

Posted by: badalamenti at May 1, 2009 5:25 PM

Godtopus, no. Spawn was another one I hated. But I watched it!

Posted by: figgy at May 1, 2009 5:30 PM

So, um, I saw X3 on the TV other day, tie in to this obviously, for the second time. See, when I saw it in the theater, I didn't hate it because I was naive and stupid and juts awed by the fuckin special effect, and also like other 2 films like everyone else.

But when I saw it on TV, my it gloriously sucked!!!!!!! The only reason i kept seeing was to procrastinate from the work I took back home...but oh my god the writing made no fucking sense and those 2 line the review mentioned were so so so so baad!!!

So, I guess I will see this in movie theatre, cuz I'm bored and special effects probably look good on big screen.

Oh, it doesn't? Scratch what I just said. Shit.

Posted by: yocean at May 1, 2009 5:39 PM

I used to hope beyond hope that this movie would be good. Why? DeadPool.

DeadPool.

DEADPOOL!

Tied with Spider-Man for my favorite character in all the comics! Hilarious! Heartwarming! Hideous! This is the man that Shoryuken'd Kitty Pryde! That gave the Rochambeau to Captain America! And to hear that a mancrush like Ryan Reynolds would be playing him? I was filled beyond limits with glee. Finally, cinematic audiences could see how wonderful he was, and he might even get his own feature film. Whee!

And then I discovered they raped my hope. I can still remember the first moment I knew something was going wrong, when I saw a trailer that featured some weird looking swordfist bastard jumping around in a familiar shade of red and blasting beams out of his eyes. I knew in a second that I'd be crushed, and I pored over all the spoilers I could find until it was fucking confirmed.

And yet, I'm still torn on whether to actually see the movie. I see all the comic book movies. I even watched Daredevil, Fantastic Four... I even watched Ghost Rider.

I'm so weak. I'll probably see this anyway, just to hold onto the brief hope that if I do support it they might branch him off and reboot him into a proper film.

The only redeeming thing for me about this review is Sabretooth. I'm a Liev Schreiber fan, and I'm also a Sabretooth fan, and I knew that at least he would bring a level of pure awesome to the film that was lacking from Tyler fucking Mane's mindless brute.

But DeadPool... Sigh.

Posted by: spideychris at May 1, 2009 5:46 PM

All of the X-Men movies are stupid. Dammit.

Posted by: Jackseppelin at May 1, 2009 6:08 PM

Well good news for you all! I heard from a very exclusive source that the next movie will be a buddy flick with Storm and Catwoman. It will all be motion-capture animation like Polar Express... set in 1867 amidst the wreckage of The World Trade Center ... with the floodwaters of Katrina rising to engulf them all!

Rated PG-13 for no mild swearing.

Posted by: bluesilver at May 1, 2009 6:39 PM

Another sucky movie featuring Ryan Reynolds. Color me surprised...

Posted by: Arthur Dent at May 1, 2009 6:59 PM

Hugh Jackman, Liev Shreiber, and Ryan Reynolds all in one place? At the same time? Count me in! I am all over it! Crappy freakin' plot/dialogue be damned! That's just too much eye candy to pass up. (I apologize to all of the die hards out there, I was not a comic kid, therefore I am blissfully ignorant as to how badly Hollywood is butchering the original characters and their stories).

Posted by: eyvi at May 1, 2009 8:03 PM

You don't have to be a comic book nerd to hate this movie.

-----------------------------------SPOILERS----------------------------------------------

Wolverine as a kid sees his fake father murdered by his real father and runs away with Sabretooth who's his older brother. Nothing more is mentioned of why this happened or who the fuck either of them are.

You see Sabretooth and Wolverine go through the Civil War up till Vietnam. Wolverine just looks the other way as Sabretooth becomes more vicious.

Wolverine's lover gets killed up in Canada with no wounds to speak of.

Wolverine finds gambit. Backhands him and moments later Gambit is rooftops away running towards Wolverine as Sabretooth engages him.

Gambit is a fucking retard with a plane.

We find out the girlfriend faked her death because Stryker has her sister, who is a retarded Emma Frost with diamonds.

The island is isolated by water but after all the shit goes down emergency vehicles and cops get there no problem.

When the girlfriend is dying (she can manipulate people by touching them) she grabs Stryker to keep him from doing the Coup de gras shot but tells him "to walk until his feet bleed" on AN ISLAND.

Wolverine can reflect deadpool's eyebursts with his blades despite the fact they don't intertwine and there are gaps.

After helping fake the death of Wolverine's girlfriend and countless fighting, when Weapon X is about to rape Wolverine, Sabretooth comes out of nowhere to help double team Weapon X, the very thing he was helping Stryker create. Says some bullshit about "brothers watching over each other" despite the fact he's been fucking with Wolverine the whole movie.

Posted by: Hurp Durp at May 1, 2009 8:52 PM

Dear Godtopus why?
A Deadpool movie would be brilliant if they actually made a Deadpool movie starring Deadpool. Could you imagine him breaking the fourth wall the entire time? Brilliant on levels equal to Crank High Voltage.

Posted by: grendel at May 1, 2009 9:26 PM

yocean nails it: Hollywood just doesn't care enough to make good comic book movies. Wolverine is a short, hairy, vicious bastard with a horribly tragic backstory who likes to gut people with his claws. That should be impossible to fuck up, and worse, there are plenty of compelling, character driven Wolverine stories out there. Deadpool is the best charcter Leifeld ever created (granted, it's a short list) and he comes with a terrific story. Why deviate from what he already is? How does anyone benefit from this terrible Weapon X character? Deadpool could carry his own movie. Who the fuck wants to see the creepy monster they turn him into. Bah! Bullet Smash Puny Humans!

Posted by: Tracer Bullet at May 1, 2009 9:49 PM

Watched it and while it's not Warzone bad, it was not very good.

The ending was simply preposterous.

What did Deadpool ever do to these people?

I remember watching youtube videos of Hugh talking bout the movie in Comic Con.

This is what he was excited bout?

There was not one, NOT ONE real gash to be seen in this movie.

At least in X1, when the other Sabretooth and Wolvie was battling it out, we got a nice gash across wolvie's face.

In this one, all we see is the new Sabretooth digging his hands into Wolvie's clothes and nothin else.

And where's the blood? PG-13? Really? i remember somethin bout makin the movie R-rated and how Hugh was committed to it.

I get it why this movie is gonna make millions despite not deserving it. The people i went out wit to watch this were civilians (non-fans) and they think its awesome bcoz sh*t blew up and hugh was running naked on screen.

I guess we'll just have to wait for Iron Man 2 to save us from this new bout of Hollywood-inflicted-depression.

But i just read that Scarlett-fuckin-Jo is Black Widow. the fuck?!

What? The world has run out of Russian women?

She has amazing rack, i give her that, but cmon!

I hope her on-screen time would be similiar to Deadpool's. i dont know if i can stand listening to Scarlett Jo putting on a crappy Russian accent...

Now, if we get a glimpse of the ladies though, then i'm all for Scarlett Jo! Who's wit me?

Posted by: haplo at May 1, 2009 9:50 PM

When they announced this movie I didn't have much hope, but Deadpool played by Ryan Reynolds kept me interested. Sadly, the only aspect I cared about in this film was used in the worst way possible, now I have no reason to watch this movie at all, well played Marvel, if it weren't for Iron Man I would have lost faith in your movie adaptations already.

Posted by: Radlum at May 1, 2009 10:30 PM

@Radlum
Don't hate on Marvel too much, this isn't their movie, they don't own the movie rights. Fox does. They are actually starting to produce their own movies though, of which Iron Man and Incredible Hulk were the first two.

The lack of ownership is the problem. For Fox this is just another movie. Sure they care about the franchise, but not the world. They have no larger vision. They don't know the comics or the characters. And that's how you end up with garbage like this.

Posted by: Blair at May 1, 2009 11:11 PM

SPOILERS

Although there is nothing to spoil, the movie sucked.

What's so hard about a little continuity? Why the BS "got shot in the head and get amnesia" line?

Why couldn't they have used Brian Cox to reprise his role? Sure he's old, but he'd have been ten times better than the other schmo.

How and why did Scott Summers have his ruby glasses when Xavier made them for him despite the fact that he met him for the first time in the film?

Why didn't Gambit speak cajun, or have any sort of accent?

What happened to him living in Japan in the late 1800's early 20th century?

BTW, this movie had one of the worst "end of credits" scenes ever. No point. Even that they fucked up.

I'd rather have watched the trailers for T4 and Transformers 2 over and over for the same duration of time.

Posted by: some Guy at May 2, 2009 1:24 AM

My favourite parts (spoilers, if anyone cares):

- Baby Wolverine throws back his head and roars in his teeny five year old falsetto. I can't decide whether it was funnier than Baby Rorschach going slow-motion Wire Fu on the bullies in Watchmen.

- Sabretooth fakes Wolverine's girlfriend's death by giving her the Deus Ex Machina heart slowy downy formula and splashing some blood on her. It apparently slips Wolverine's mind to check for any actual wounds.

- They coat Wolverine's skeleton with adamantium by sticking some syringes in him and pumping him full of liquid metal. I'm no expert, but I don't think that's how metal... I don't think that's how anything works. Last time I had a vaccination I don't think the vaccine coated my bones.

- The Deadpool... thing at the end had metre-long sword blades coming out of his knuckles. So when they were retracted he'd be completely unable to bend his elbows or wrists. Awesome.

Posted by: James at May 2, 2009 1:30 AM

Can someone explain to me ... (SP)

... why two CANADIAN brothers were fighting in every American conflict since the Civil War?

... how Wolverine walked into the Nigerian jungles, and then a jump cut later, was in the Canadian Rockies with an insta-girlfriend?

... why Lumberjack Wolverine's boss never noticed when he drove off in a huff in the middle of work after Stryker comes to talk to him?

... the relevance of the moon parable? I think maybe it was too subtly applied. If only they made reference to it three or four more times later on.

... why the girlfriend playing dead wasn't worried that her primal hunter/professional soldier boyfriend wouldn't buy her being splashed with blood and fake wound as really being dead?

... what she would have done had he had the werewithal to take her to the hospital, or perhaps simply buried her?

... why Wolverine never actually bothered to return to her dead body at some point, instead of suppoedly leaving her to rot out in the open wilderness?

... if Uncle Owen and Aunt Whatshername would have wanted their naked visitor to avenge their deaths by blowing up their helpless and wounded attacker with a big explosion?

... if "challenge Blob to a boxing match" was the most logical way to find out where Wolverine should go next?

... where boy-Cyclops got those special beam-refracting sunglasses, and how he managed to purchase them from the Sunglass Hut with his eyes constantly clentched shut?

... why Gambit, after first thinking Wolverine had come to take him away, had a sudden change of heart and decided to belive Wolverine who vowed to kill everyone he hates?

... if Gambit was ultimately angry when Wolverine ended up not killing anyone Gamibit hates?

... why it was necessary for Wolverine to bail out of an airplane in order to get to the super-secret island where mutants were being stored?

... what was supposed to be the resolution of the film, if it wasn't going to resolve the conflict between Wolverine and his brother?

... if the results of the final fight sequence was supposed to be the actual Three-Mile Island meltdown, which as far as I remember, didn't have any exploding cooling towers?

... if the adamantium bullets were specially programmed to erase only ingrained memories, but leave speech and higher reasoning functions alone, and why this is such a comfort to Stryker?

... how the really dying girlfriend's tactile suggestion can have such a lasting effect on a person, even long after she's dead?

... since the ruination of the Superman, Spider-Man, and the X-Men movie franchises have come with their latest installments, can we expect the same with the next Batman sequel?

Posted by: Leftylad at May 2, 2009 2:56 AM

I saw it at midnight...then the nx midnight I saw Labrynth...anyway. I agree with everyone...and would like to add the special effects looked like crap. the TMI ending fight looked digital...that's it...they didn't even try. Not only were they digital but they didn't even freakin Google Earth TMI...as the place doesnt really look like that...I should know...I've been there (and live nearby). Overall...they enjoyed crapping over what could have been cool...and also Ebert's comments make me laugh...and its so so true

Posted by: Luke at May 2, 2009 8:58 AM

Hahaha Luke, that exactly the reaction I had to TMI! I'm like, as a native Pennsylvanian, I'm slighty insulted that they couldn't be bothered to CGI in some rolling green mountains - instead of the rock formations I saw in the background. Lazy!

And Leftylad - I know. I know.

Posted by: Melissa at May 2, 2009 10:05 AM

Has anybody seen/heard reliably anything about this alternate after the credits scene??? On IMDB tons of people claim to have seen it... but I don't know how reliable that is. It would be a teeny bit less dissapointing if this other clip exists... But I need to hear it from somebody I trust, and I trust Pajiba...

Posted by: shel at May 2, 2009 10:25 AM

Let me know if there's ever a movie where the superhero loses.

Then ... maybe.

Posted by: , (the commenter formerly known as bucdaddy) at May 2, 2009 11:38 AM

How and why did Scott Summers have his ruby glasses when Xavier made them for him despite the fact that he met him for the first time in the film?

I don't know about the movie continuity, but in the comics (as if those matter), Scott had the glasses when Xavier found him at the orphanage. Mr. Sinister (yes, I know) an evil "X-ternal" (mutants who for unexplained reasons are also immortal -- don't ask) who has long taken an unhealthy interest in Scott and his offspring. Explaining that any further is going to give us both a headache.

Posted by: Tracer Bullet at May 2, 2009 11:47 AM

N/M I found the alternate after the credits scene on youtube... there is a teeny tiny bit of less suck now :)

Posted by: shel at May 2, 2009 11:51 AM

Let me know if there's ever a movie where the superhero loses.

What about Spider-Man 3? In that movie, EVERYBODY loses, if only by showing their faces on screen.

Posted by: Jeremy Feist at May 2, 2009 12:04 PM

I agree with everybody. This movie gave me beserker nerd rage.

Luke and Melissa, I especially agree with the TMI outrage (I'm looking at the cooling towers from my window right now).

Posted by: henchman for hire at May 2, 2009 12:18 PM

Let me know if there's ever a movie where the superhero loses.

Batman didn't win in The Dark Knight. That's why it was great. No matter what he did, Joker won.

Posted by: TylerDFC at May 2, 2009 4:35 PM

Tracer,

I know Sinister and the Summers angle (I did watch the cartoon growing up, which covered it nicely,) I just always thought Prof. X. gave him those specs.


Posted by: Some Guy at May 2, 2009 5:01 PM

Instead of this steaming turd, go see Star Trek instead. I just watched it at an early screening for local media in my area and can honestly say it was the best "blockbuster" style film I've seen so far this year.

Can't wait for you guys to do a review so I can pop in again to say of fucking sweet it was.

Posted by: Roaddog at May 2, 2009 5:34 PM

oof sorry. "...again to say of sweet..." should be "...again to say how sweet..." I got so excited I hitted my keys SUPER HARD

Posted by: Roaddog at May 2, 2009 5:35 PM

This movie just leaves you with a fuckton of questions, no answers and a feeling of embarrassment so great you felt like you pissed your pants in a crowd.

Posted by: Hurp Durp at May 2, 2009 7:29 PM

So ... no weekend hijack thread, again.

Hmph. I didn't want to talk to you guys anyway.

Posted by: , (the commenter formerly known as bucdaddy) at May 2, 2009 7:49 PM

OK, for those of you looking for the IMPORTANT information;

Hugh Jackman has a gratuitous amount of shirtless scenes. Sadly, the same cannot be said for Ryan Reynolds, Taylor Kitsch, Daniel Henney, or Liev Schriber (not my cup of tea, but I understand some of you are into that sort of thing.) Technically, Reynolds does have an extended shirtless scene at the end of the film, but it's after they fuck his face up but good, so it's not really as much fun as it should be. You get about two shots of Kevin Durand's cute face before they stick an unbelievable fat suit on him and make him look like a pretty Jabba the Hutt.

Seriously though, I'm frustrated that they couldn't get Gambit's shirt off SOMEHOW. I would do terrible thing to Taylor Kitsch. Just awful.

Wait, was there supposed to be a plot or story happening? I don't remember that part.

Posted by: Genny (also Rusty) at May 2, 2009 8:26 PM

I thought the movie was AWESOME...

Posted by: Gwen at May 2, 2009 9:04 PM

Bucdaddy - I thought that was kind of your unofficial responsibility. Am I mistaken?

Posted by: Eyvi at May 2, 2009 9:26 PM

Well, we were supposed to have a dedicated weekend playground so that we wouldn't completely derail the comment thread of a perfectly good review, Eyvi. However, I fear that's been forgotten this weekend.

Argh, between that and the fact that the Hawks have just taken the lead over the Canucks, I am displeased! *sigh* If only I had a vaguely porny question from , (formerly bucdaddy) to take my mind off my troubles.

Posted by: meaux at May 2, 2009 10:35 PM

Hugh Jackman has a gratuitous amount of shirtless scenes. This is why I went to see the movie. You would think Hanes would give THIS man a contract for the wife-beater cause I think he could help!!

Posted by: blacksred at May 2, 2009 11:24 PM

Let me know if there's ever a movie where the superhero loses.

Watchmen.

Posted by: Vermillion at May 3, 2009 12:09 AM

THANK YOU, Genny. That is all I wanted to know.

Posted by: figgy at May 3, 2009 1:07 AM

I am Spender, aka "Ghostface Threadkillah" and I declare this one officially dead.

Posted by: Spender at May 3, 2009 4:21 AM

Oh, for those who don't know... Genny is gorgeous.

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he is so tall and sexy.I know a place you can date with such guys
*** Seekingtall.com *** which I have joined.­ I think it is interesting and you will like it.

Posted by: salawhite at May 3, 2009 9:41 AM

Holy shit, Vermillion lives! Where were you V? Prison? Frozen in carbonite? Trapped in a glass case of emotion?

Posted by: jM at May 3, 2009 11:38 AM

Why did Stryker get within arms reach of Layla at the end?

Posted by: Travis at May 3, 2009 11:39 AM

jM Without a P00kie, the world has no need for a Vermillion. They are Ying and Yang, Batman and Joker.
Also, the Deadpool movie can't work as a modern day film. He'd just be mourning the loss of Bea Arthur the whole time. Maybe it could be a period piece.

Posted by: Optimus Rhyme at May 3, 2009 1:06 PM

I never understand people who make movies based on comics (or novels for that matter).

They're like contractors who are given a set of blueprints to build a house and they decide to ignore all the specs and the end result is a house that no can live in.

Posted by: John W at May 3, 2009 2:39 PM

Holy shit, Vermillion lives! Where were you V? Prison? Frozen in carbonite? Trapped in a glass case of emotion?

Try having my internet service shut off for two weeks, followed by finals.

Thanks for the concern though.

jM Without a P00kie, the world has no need for a Vermillion. They are Ying and Yang, Batman and Joker.

Um...okay. I don't know what you are talking about, but I hope I am the Batman in that equation.

Posted by: Vermillion at May 3, 2009 3:13 PM

70's Supefriends Batman?

Then yes.

Or maybe the Clooney, nippled, Batman.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at May 3, 2009 4:40 PM

Good to see Slim still has his crankypants on.

Posted by: Vermillion at May 3, 2009 5:34 PM

Try having my internet service shut off for two weeks, followed by finals.

Damn, I understand. My printer once died during finals and I ended up calling a toddler a prissy bitch in the middle of Kinkos. And Pooks was evicted from the site in your absence, but he's still around if you can Guess Who.

Posted by: jM at May 3, 2009 5:59 PM

Bucdaddy - I thought that was kind of your unofficial responsibility. Am I mistaken?

Posted by: Eyvi at May 2, 2009 9:26 PM
---
No. But when I groused at about 2 p.m. Saturday last that the hijack thread wasn't up yet, DR assured me that he made a point of putting it up at 3 p.m. So this week I gave him 3 p.m. ... and 4 ... and 5 ... and 6 ... and (see below)
---
Well, we were supposed to have a dedicated weekend playground so that we wouldn't completely derail the comment thread of a perfectly good review, Eyvi. However, I fear that's been forgotten this weekend.

Argh, between that and the fact that the Hawks have just taken the lead over the Canucks, I am displeased! *sigh* If only I had a vaguely porny question from , (formerly bucdaddy) to take my mind off my troubles.

Posted by: meaux at May 2, 2009 10:35 PM
---
I wish I had one but I've been crappy sick for like five days now (NOT the swine flu, unfortunately, I was looking forward to being profiled as the first case in my state but I think it's just a damn cold) and had no energy left for being even vaguely porny.

Sorry, I'll try harder next week, now that I know I have fans.

Posted by: , (the commenter formerly known as bucdaddy) at May 3, 2009 6:42 PM

Just got home and have to say I am very pissed off.
I have been a Logan fan since I was a little kid.
Being Canadian and having our own little terror as a super hero was always great.
Now I don't want him after this steaming pile of crap.
Why introduce us to cool characters like Deadpool,Wraith, Agent Zero and never use them.

My biggest complaint is too many characters and not enough plot. Hell Marvel has already given you the story just translate it to the screen and leave it alone.

I want my money back.

Posted by: aesop71 at May 3, 2009 8:26 PM

Cheers, ,! Feel better!

Posted by: meaux at May 3, 2009 10:24 PM

I am a hardcore ", (the commenter formerly known as bucdaddy)" fan.

Posted by: Spender at May 4, 2009 5:11 AM

All I can say is I hope Ryan Reynolds gets a Deadpool movie out of this in which he actually gets to- I don't know be on screen for more than 5 minutes? Or in which perhaps the "merc with a mouth" could get more than two lines?

Goddamn, I'm sick of this "cram as many characters in as we can" mentality. It's not like they're going to stop making these movies anytime soon, they've got plenty more chances to tickle everybody's fanboy reflex.

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Huh, the spambots are getting political now. Interesting.

Posted by: meaux at May 4, 2009 8:17 AM

No black rage to be found here. Not a good movie but enjoyable none the less. I agree that there were too many characters pressed into one movie but some scenes worked. The one scene which surprised me was Wolvie getting Dukes to talk in Vegas. When I saw that bit tin the trailer it mortified me to the bone. But because of the crisp writing in that scene the circumstances were not too bizarre and no shark was jumped. Then there was logan being taken in by an elderly couple. That scene offered much promise with a respite from the strum and drang of the previous two acts (Wolverine at war and Wolverine in the Rockies) but such was not to be. That to me was a bigger disappointment then anything else that happened in the movie.

Posted by: Mr. West at May 4, 2009 12:55 PM

No love for Agent Zero? The dude who plays him is smoking hot.

Posted by: grinder at May 4, 2009 1:10 PM

I agree, grinder!

Posted by: Melissa at May 4, 2009 1:22 PM

SPOILERS AHEAD!!


FYI, kids... the guy who is supposedly Deadpool at the end is NOT played by Ryan Reynolds. It's some dude named Scott Adkins (or something like that). He's listed in the credits as "Weapon XI" (Wolverine was Weapon X). The 2 "alternate" endings are not that, they're just dumb. One is Deadpool's hand, after retracting the ridiculous sword, creeping through the rubble to touch his severed head. At that point, the eyes open and he says, "Shhh." Which is retarded, for one (and possibly least) being that he didn't have a mouth opening.

The second "ending" is Stryker, all scruffy and busted with holes in his shoes, walking down a road, when a military jeep pulls up and MPs jump out. They confirm who he is, and then tell him he's wanted for questioning re: the disappearance of some general (Stryker killed him earlier in the film). Oh, and I guess they didn't have a Cajun-accented Gambit cos whats-his-name couldn't do one. The hell? (Gambit's one of my favorite X-Men, right after Beast.)


There you go. I saved you $10 and a lot of headache. I went to see this specifically for Liev Shreiber, but knew that the movie would SUCK overall. And it did (but he didn't).

Posted by: Nadha at May 4, 2009 3:15 PM

eh, I think you're all missing the point.

jackman, without clothes, reynolds without shirt.

That is all.

Posted by: captainfireypants at May 5, 2009 6:17 PM

I'm not sure if it was mentioned, but I only saw descriptions of the alternative endings featuring Deadpool and Stryker. The Stryker one is more like a coda or denoument. The other alternative ending show Logan in Japan drinking in a bar. That barmaid asks if he is drinking to forget. You know the lame-ass rest.

Posted by: Protoguy at May 6, 2009 5:57 AM

not surprisingly, i found myself wanting more of Ryan Reynolds being himself... his presence in any movie makes it automatically funnier / more entertaining

Posted by: Nomad at May 9, 2009 1:56 PM

This movie was... banal. It was like a smashed Rolex - all the parts are there to make something great, but put together like this it just doesn't work!
I'm sincerely sorry for the actors - this read more like an extended "last week on Wolverine" plot summary. Instead this was more like Undertaker, but with shiny silver claws. (And did that annoy anyone else as much as me? How on EARTH could hot injected metal make angular Wiltshire kitchen knives inside someones arm? Would have been much better - although grosser - cinema if they'd just cut him up and welded the damned things on.)
Poor conflicted Wolverine - roaring in agony at the inspid lines and turning his head in confusion as yet another plot twist whizzes by (Wait, I'm your enemy - No I am! - And I'm not dead - Wait, Now I am! And here's yet another person for you to beat up wheee!)
MEH

Posted by: Trowzers at May 10, 2009 3:59 AM