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The Road / Drew Morton

Film Reviews | November 25, 2009 | Comments (94)


In 2005, my cinematic senses were set ablaze by John Hillcoat’s The Proposition (2005), a gritty Western written by Gothic rocker Nick Cave. Hillcoat’s use of imagery and sound (particularly in the film’s opening shoot out) was hauntingly poetic and comparisons were made to Cormac McCarthy’s Blood Meridian. When Hillcoat announced that his next project would be an adaptation of McCarthy’s most recent work, the Pulitzer Prize-winning novel The Road, it seemed like a match made in cinematic (and Academy Award) heaven. Unfortunately, the finished product, delayed one year by the Weinstein Company to grant Hillcoat a longer post-production period, is a dour failure.

The film, like the book, follows a man (Viggo Mortensen) and his son (Kodi Smit-McPhee) as they travel across a post-apocalyptic America. An unseen and unknown force (implied to be a nuclear disaster) has killed most of the human and animal population and left the landscape ravaged and unable to sustain plant life. The father and son, following the suicide of the family’s matriarch (Charlize Theron) and unable to survive one more winter on limited resources, hit the desolate highway to make their way down the coast to improve their conditions. As if the barren landscape did not make survival enough of a hardship, many of the remaining human survivors have turned to pillaging and cannibalism. The road is not easy, the road is long and, unfortunately for us, The Road is rather bumpy.

As an film adaptation of a beloved and prize-winning novel by a critically embraced author that follows on the tail of a beloved and prize winning adaptation of another novel by the same author (the Coens’ No Country for Old Men), The Road has a great deal of cultural capital and baggage tied to its title. Critiques of film adaptations often devolve into discussions of textual fidelity. Yet, how can one medium be faithful to another? Film is a medium based upon sound and images whereas a novel is based on prose. Sure, they’re both forms that often deal with narratives, but they’re fundamentally different with regard to their formal attributes and the industries and audiences that engage with them. For instance, Cormac McCarthy can write a nuclear disaster into a book at the cost of a couple words. To bring the same event to the screen costs a great sum of money. Finally, a book can stretch hundreds of pages, requiring hours of a reader’s time, whereas a film is limited to roughly ninety minutes in which the filmmaker, not the reader, pushes the plot forward. Despite all these differences, if a film adaptation deviates from its source material by altering plot points, characters, or setting, viewers tend to get agitated and decry the adaptation as being “unfaithful.”

Hollywood’s fear of appeasing readers of a book and/or a filmmaker’s desire to be faithful to a property is often disastrous in limiting the imagination of the filmmaker. Think of the difference between an episode of Masterpiece Theater and a film like David Cronenberg’s A History of Violence. Why is the latter more entertaining than the former when viewed in the light of the original text? I would tend to think the reason lies in the fact that Cronenberg strayed from the source material and that action allowed him to make a film that deals with many of the same issues as the original graphic novel but in the unique formal terms of film. Why be faithful to an original text anyway? If I really cherished the thoughts and feelings that arise when I read a book, why would I care if it was a movie or not? Why not just go back to the book and rekindle those undiluted sensations from the source?

The problem with The Road is that Hillcoat, screenwriter Joe Penhill, and the Weinstein Company tried to produce the most faithful adaptation possible and, in doing so, made a mediocre film based on a mediocre book. After seeing No Country for Old Men (2007), I immediately went to the bookstore and picked up McCarthy’s Blood Meridian: Or the Evening Redness in the West and The Road. I read the latter novel first and found barren prose and a rather trite theme. The Road, both in its paper and celluloid form, is fundamentally a story about the love between a father and a son that flourishes despite raging cannibals and a whole cast of characters that do not carry the moral goodness of “the fire.” Quite simply, the story lacks the intellectual and moral depth that I found in McCarthy’s Blood Meridian (which, I must say, is not one of my favorite books in the world, either), leaving it rather dull and boring.

Now, there are many pieces of art that have risen from a tried and true theme and yet are memorable and perhaps even wonderful. Admittedly, the film still follows McCarthy’s lead towards the deep end of the pool by having the man go through a crisis of morality, as he fearfully strips and robs another traveler (Michael “Omar from The Wire” K. Williams), only to be chastised by his son, who suddenly becomes the film’s true moral compass. Yet, it’s a simple theme that never pushes itself beyond that simplicity, which is the main reason why this review is so difficult to write. The film is beautifully shot (by Javier Aguirresarobe), has a well-crafted musical score by Nick Cave and Warren Ellis, and showcases some decent performances (although, as a friend of mine noted on the way out of the theater, the real acclaim should be given to whoever handled the tear dropper for Mortensen and McPhee). Yet, at the end of the day, Hillcoat indulges McCarthy’s emphasis on a lot of crying, a lot of running, and a lot of fearful embraces. The film is crippled by the albatross of “faithful adaptation,” whatever one takes that to mean. Because the filmmakers followed this approach, the disappointment I felt with the book was simply a foregone conclusion in the film.

Drew Morton is a Ph.D. student in Cinema and Media Studies at the University of California-Los Angeles. He has previously written for the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel and UWM Post and is the 2008 recipient of the Otis Ferguson Award for Critical Writing in Film Studies.

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Comments

Nice piece, Drew. I don't know what you could have said to keep me away, but I appreciate reading the truth. Do you think the mood and the feel of the book was captured? For me, the way McCarthy can capture a setting and translate feeling so easily and with such simplicity is what grabbed me.

Posted by: Cindy at November 23, 2009 12:09 PM

made a mediocre film based on a mediocre book.

I was with you until here. Have you read The Road? That book is amazing. Books don't win the Pulitzer for nothing. It's seriously one of the most affecting books I've ever read.

Sorry, I had to cut you off there.

Posted by: Christian H. at November 23, 2009 12:12 PM

Pajiba is always serendipitously synced up with my life. I just finished watching the first season of The Wire last night and today the first few posts contain Stringer and Omar. Get outta my head!

I really liked this book but I read it the night after I saw The Pursuit of Happiness so I pictured the characters black. That makes it hard for me to find a desire to see the movie. If it's that faithful to the book I suppose I should enjoy it though.

Posted by: becks at November 23, 2009 12:14 PM

I read The Road before any of his others books and my opinion is that its his weakest that i read. I still haven't read Blood Meridian but i read the border trilogy and like those much better.

Great review.

Posted by: Sad Rockstar at November 23, 2009 12:14 PM

I loved the book so if it's faithful I can only hope I'll love the film too.

Posted by: Carrie at November 23, 2009 12:15 PM

Okay I read further to where you said you'd read it. Sorry. I disagree with your point, but you at least read the book.

Posted by: Christian H. at November 23, 2009 12:16 PM

Christian H., you took the words right out of my brain. I had even copied "made a mediocre film based on a mediocre book" and was ready to paste it into my comment.

The Road was one of the most moving and emotionally devastating books I've ever read. I am prepared to discount this entire review based just upon that fact. But that's my right, I guess.

Posted by: Snath at November 23, 2009 12:16 PM

Christian,

I have read the "The Road" and I wasn't impressed. I preferred the prose style to that of "Blood Meridian," but I thought the story paled with comparison.

"Books don't win the Pulitzer for nothing." That's like saying films don't win the Oscar for nothing and we all know that isn't true, as there is so much more involved in an award than good piece of art=award. McCarthy probably won for "The Road" because he had been overlooked before as it is one of his weaker books.

Posted by: Drew Morton at November 23, 2009 12:19 PM

I'm not big on McCarthy's prose (just not my style), but all the people I talked to at an advanced screening a month ago spoke very highly of the novel. I'm quick to give it praise, as well. I remember getting a death glare for saying it was only adapted to film so quickly because of No Country for Old Men's Oscar success.

If anything, I thought the film softened up the emotional heft of the film by placing too much emphasis on The Man at the expense of showing any real connection other than "protect at all costs" with The Boy. I believe I tweeted it as The Road: or, Viggo, really, really, really wants the Oscar. Viggo's great, but I wanted more oomph. When the film hits hard, its devastating. Some of the scenes gave me nightmares.

The ending did not work on film for me at all. Partly because of the issues I already mentioned.

Posted by: Robert at November 23, 2009 12:25 PM

This book was wonderful for me, but I can understand differences in opinion on that front. My only concern is that the previews make it look like an action movie, where all of the gravity of the novel came from the lack of anything happening and the constant threat that something will at any moment. However, if the adaptation is as faithful as you say, it may be worth watching.

Posted by: Mr. Tusks at November 23, 2009 12:26 PM

Blood Meridian is my favorite McCarthy book, and The Road one of my least favorites (didn't much care for Outer Dark, either). I was hopeful the movie adaptation could still be good, and given that you didn't care for Blood Meridian, either, I'm still kind of hopeful.

I don't remember constant crying in The Road but I do think the son was always the voice of morality in the book. That didn't come out of nowhere, it was a counterpoint to the father's mythology of hope that he kept having to prove wrong in order to survive.

Posted by: Wednesday at November 23, 2009 12:29 PM

Nice review, Drew, but I don't buy it. I loved The Road (the book), and if the movie can conjure up even a fraction of the feelings the book did I think I will love it. In this case those feelings involve being completely emotionally destroyed and walking around for a week with a giant hole in my soul. I'm looking forward to it.

Posted by: The_wakeful at November 23, 2009 12:31 PM

@ Drew:

I think you're absolutely right about this movie's relationship with Old Men. No studio would take a movie about walking unless it comes from guy who has already proven successful, and every time an author hits one home run studios love to gobble up the rights to everything else he's made.

Posted by: Mr. Tusks at November 23, 2009 12:31 PM

I found the book beautiful, devastating and extremely moving and I think Hillcoat and team did a good job of adaptation.

I also think the reason there has been so much written about how 'faithful' the film will be to the text is because this story is so far removed from the typical post apocalyptic science fiction movie, people who like the book were convinced any film adaptation would be sure to ruin it.

The first teaser trailer for the film, stuffed with stock footage of rioting and explosions, were edited to make to look like this was Dawn of the Dead 3 and added fuel to these flames. Thankfully, none of that material is in the finished film and instead it's a powerful, character-driven drama that just happens to be set after a devastating unnamed cataclysm.

I am a fan of the book and really liked the movie. It slightly restructured the novel's stream-of-consciousness first-person narrative (check out the opening scene), but for me never strayed from the narrative intent. Powerful stuff.

Posted by: MadMax at November 23, 2009 12:33 PM

And by "Drew" I meant "Robert."

Posted by: Mr. Tusks at November 23, 2009 12:34 PM

If I could just remove my commentator Kangol and don my troll pantaloons, I feel like a lot in the beginning was the kind of padding I add to a paper when I'm a few paragraphs short of my third page. We know the difference between books and movies. Give us a little credit.

Posted by: Optimus Rhyme at November 23, 2009 12:35 PM

I'm skimming and commenting before reading, which I never do, but eff it, I am right now.

I read this book a couple of years ago and it was devastating. I mean, at the end, I kind of wanted to take a bath with the toaster. It was just so desolate. I knew then that I could never read it again.

I'm debating with myself whether I could handle the movie.

Posted by: Nicole at November 23, 2009 12:37 PM

Optimus:

He's a doctorate candidate in film school, what did you really expect? We rabble in the useful professions don't know the difference and need to be educated.

Posted by: Mr. Tusks at November 23, 2009 12:38 PM

Optimus and Tusks,

It's not like that at all but, even in these comments, the overwhelming subject is "fidelity." My point was to arise the possibility that it is impossible to make a "faithful" adaptation because it doesn't really mean anything, as we all latch on to different experiences while reading a book. Thus, something may appear faithful to one and not to another. Also, what the hell is the point of making a faithful adaptation? If you love McCarthy's book so much, why not leave the experience at that? Why would you have the desire to see the film in the first place if it wasn't going to be different?

Posted by: Drew Morton at November 23, 2009 12:43 PM

Blood Meridian better then The Road? Holy shit. It took me two weeks to read Blood Meridian and only three hours to read The Road. I devoured that fucking book. Blood Meridian gave me a headache everytime I picked it up.

In my opinion you've started out biased. If you didn't enjoy the book. In fact, if you found it "weak," why would you enjoy the film? Especially if it is a close adaptation? When you said it follows the book you made me happy. I was worried they would do the exact opposite and deviate from it.

As long as they have the baby+fire scene from the book...I will be a happy camper. That image is forever burned into my head.

Posted by: DeistBrawler at November 23, 2009 12:45 PM

Deist,

No baby scene. Also, while I may have been bias as I did not enjoy the book, that doesn't mean a filmmaker can't be creative and to fill in the gaps for him or herself, to try to redeem the work by acknowledging that some mediums do things better than others. Sometimes strict fidelity works (Sin City), but often it's those that take liberties that remain in my mind (A History of Violence, Adaptation, even Lord of the Rings).

Posted by: Drew Morton at November 23, 2009 12:48 PM

I confess I haven't read The Road yet, but post-apocalyptic stories are not my cup of chai (this assessment came about after reading Damnation Alley and The Stand - I was unimpressed by both).

But for a baby barbecue I might just read the book.

Posted by: The Wanderer at November 23, 2009 12:52 PM

Deist,

An amendment to my last comment:

For the record, I hated "A History of Violence" as a graphic novel. So, I would have been bias against the film going in as well but was pleasantly surprised that it wasn't "faithful."

Posted by: Drew Morton at November 23, 2009 12:54 PM

Even though it's won the hearts of many readers, I don't think The Road is one of the best post-apocalypse books around. It's mediocre and certainly not McCarthy's best book. The sub-genre of post-apocalypse novels are usually thought provoking in one way or another. And there are some really excellent ones out there. Unfortunately, I don't think this was as "deep" as it's credited. I think it won the Pulitzer partly because it's McCarthy and partly because of a bias against horror and SciFi writers. Back to the movie - just reading the book, you can see the difficulty of translating that into a "faithful adaption". Personally, and I'm sure others will disagree, I found the book lacking hope. Yes, some believe people can survive anything, but there really isn't any future for those in the book. Drew's review indicates that in that the film is faithful. I'll wait for the DVD.


Posted by: Jiffyzen at November 23, 2009 12:58 PM

Drew,

I'm not going to argue whether Blood Meridian is better than The Road or whether you liked it or didn't. It's like arguing favorite Hitchcock movies or demanding to know why you liked one movie over another.

I do disagree in your assessment of The Road as a book. I find that McCarthy went almost against type and instead of giving us malleable moralities from various characters that he chose to give us one truth that had to withstand the barrage of the story and the world in which it was set in. It's almost like a literary experiment -- can the Man and the Boy save this love in a world that's so twisted?

Does that mean that Hillcoat (btw, I L.O.V.E. The Proposition) got it right? No. And that was going to be the problem with adapting The Road. A lot of what happens in that book is internal and movies have a poor track record of taking us into multiple characters' thoughts.

Shame they didn't get it right.

Posted by: Fredo at November 23, 2009 1:01 PM

I "loved" this book, but will never read it again(too depressing). I won't see the movie either. If I love a book I will re-read it. Watching some director butcher what is in my head is not a fun time.

Posted by: karen at November 23, 2009 1:02 PM

I, too, think The Road was an incredibly moving book to read. Although, the prose did take some getting use to. To be fair though, I think this movie won't do much for me. Two of the worst trailers of the year both came from this movie, and as much as I love Viggo, I'm not getting my hopes up. (I know, I know, they're just trailers)

Posted by: Colin at November 23, 2009 1:02 PM

People don't watch adaptations of their favorite books for a brand-new cinematic experience, it's to see their favorite characters and settings in the flesh. If the film does more than just give a accurate translation of the plot and feeling, well, that's gravy. It's because the expectations for "cinematic" merits of an adaptation are lower, and people just want to know if their imaginings of how people look and how the plot plays out matches those of the filmmaker. For most the feeling of the original is an inextricable element of the adaptation, and they are reluctant to "wipe clean" their prior experience of the story to see something new. So if it turns out that the filmmaker interpreted the work much differently than they did, and they are disappointed by not seeing their vision transferred to the screen, they will conclude that the movie has somehow done it "wrong." Assuming the filmmaker is expected to give as careful a reading of the text as they did, the issues will frequently come down to those of "fidelity."

Adaptations may very well have merit as individual works, and many even improve upon weak source material. It seems, then, that where we disagree is on whether the source here is "weak." Many found the experience of the original deeply moving, and are only willing to accept a film adaptation that mimics the original as much as is workable with the medium. Consider some original text that you value greatly, and think of whether you would rather have its adaptation be more faithful than not. I'm sure you could appreciate its merits in any event, but you know an unfaithful adaptation would not be the same as the original. And if you wanted it to be the same, wouldn't be a little disappointing?

Posted by: Mr. Tusks at November 23, 2009 1:02 PM

Drew, you don't actually say why the film is not that good, other than because it tries to remain faithful to the book. How does this manifest itself in poor movie-making? (I hate the word manifest, sorry.) What is actually wrong with the film? Simplicity of theme? Crying?

Posted by: Brenton at November 23, 2009 1:05 PM

Has anyone else read Child of God? Talk about desolate and wanting to bathe with a toaster - I wanted to molt.

Posted by: Cindy at November 23, 2009 1:09 PM

This review was useless for anyone who actually respected and enjoyed the book.

Posted by: sheshakes at November 23, 2009 1:12 PM

Drew,
Understandable. However, sometimes it is also the exact opposite. It's the liberty they take in, ohhhh, 90% of Stephen King adaptations that make the films suck. I'm about to finish Different Seasons for the Cannonball Read (the book has "Shawshank Redemption," "Apt Pupil," and "Stand by Me") and it is the fact that filmakers stray from the source material that pisses me off. Take, for example, Misery. In the film she breaks his ankles with a sledge hammer. A fairly powerful scene. However, in the book, she cuts his legs off at the knee with an electric cutting knife and seals the wounds with a blowtorch.
Sometimes doing something different works (although I will argue that the only thing the Lord of the Rings films did was simply edit. They took out boring shit). Sometimes it doesn't (looking at you Dune).
For some reason The 13th Warrior, Road to Perdition and I Am Legend are in my head.
In regards to your statement that if you are an avid fan of a story why would you want to see a film adaptation of it? That's easy. You already have your own mental image of everything that's going on as you read so it's cool to get to see it on a screen. It was a wet dream to watch Christian Bale tear through American Psycho just like it was to see Mickey Rourke in Sin City.

Posted by: DeistBrawler at November 23, 2009 1:14 PM

Brenton, I obviously cannot speak for Drew, but I'd say the big problem with The Road is that it literally tries to stay faithful to the book. Unfortunately, the intimacy of the novel is not translated well to the big screen, resulting in a duller experience than the book. Basically everything is there, but so what? The visceral shocks work well, but the emotional heft and tension is very minimal until about 2/3s of the way in. At that point, people had already walked out of my screening because they were too grossed out by some of the shocking visuals. It wants to be a morality play, and an apocalypse film, and a suspense film, and a thriller, but doesn't exactly commit to any of them. The morality aspect works the best, and that's when the film really picks up.

The Road doesn't exactly do anything wrong, but shy of Viggo Mortensen, faithfulness, and some realistic practical effects, it doesn't do a lot right, either.

Posted by: Robert at November 23, 2009 1:15 PM

Jay the Contrarian has a glint in his eye.


No, I wouldn't go near either, not because they're said to be good or bad, I just don't need that trip.

Posted by: Jay at November 23, 2009 1:27 PM

Mr. Tusks you explained why people watch the film adaptations of books perfectly. I love to get immersed in a book and create my own image of what settings, characters, etc are like but I'm also fascinated to see how other people imagine it. The Lord of the Rings trilogy comes to mind, the first time i saw those movies was literally breathtaking to me because even though I pictured the world and characters in my head, seeing it brought to life on the big screen was something else entirely.

I can accept filmmakers taking liberties in fidelity to source material if it enriches the on-screen experience. As Drew pointed out it can be hard to translate prose to the screen, but when I take issue with not remaining faithful to a book is when the changes negatively effect the story. I'm probably one of the people in the middle category in regards to The Road, I didn't love it or hate it, I thought it was a good book but it'll never make it onto my top 5. That being said, I do still hope that the film adaptation won't disappoint

Posted by: Even Stevens at November 23, 2009 1:37 PM

I'm going to weigh in on Drew's side in that I was "meh" about the book, which I read in the past year. Maybe I'm just getting too old to really engage with much fiction anymore. The tricks and tics and quirks of the use of language (call it "pretentiousness" if you like) catch my attention more now and I find myself getting more caught up in noticing that and less in feeling what the author wants me to feel.

BTW, the "No Country" film was almost exactly faithful to the book, wasn't it? Down to whole swatches of dialogue being directly lifted. But what sometimes makes sense on the page, when you have to time to read a passage again and think about it before moving on, can leave a viewer baffled, such as when TLJ's sheriff describes his dream at the end. "And then I woke up."

OK, having read the book and seen the movie (twice) I'm still baffled either way, but I hope you see my point.

Posted by: , (just , cause I'm tired of typing that other shit) at November 23, 2009 1:42 PM

I have to jump in here too. Maybe *you* didn't like The Road and only kinda liked Blood Meridian. And I'll listen to you talk about why, because I like what you did with words, up there. But don't say it's a "mediocre book", Drew! The Road is a solid good book, on so many levels. And Blood Meridian is a fucking stand-alone masterpiece. Mediocre is such a slam, in my opinion, when talking about art. It's a heavy, heavy word.

Posted by: AdaHaze at November 23, 2009 1:59 PM

AdaHaze, why shouldn't he say mediocre? If he didn't like it, he didn't like it. Saying that he can't use a certain word to describe something, whether it be a work of art or not, is essentially telling the reviewer what to think. Which makes no sense.

This conceit that because the reader liked something and the reviewer didn't (or vice versa), and therefore one party is "wrong" is just as silly as the idea that any work of art is inherently and universally "good" or "bad."

Posted by: Skewicide Blonde at November 23, 2009 2:05 PM

Because things can be bad and things can be good, but when they are neither, just kind of half-assed and lame and sort of not worth the trouble to even take seriously, that is when they are mediocre.

Posted by: AdaHaze at November 23, 2009 2:09 PM

when they are neither, just kind of half-assed and lame and sort of not worth the trouble to even take seriously, that is when they are mediocre.

I gathered that that's what he thought, so......?

Posted by: Jay at November 23, 2009 2:19 PM

I can't believe so many commenters didn't like The Road. I couldn't put it down. I finished it months ago, and I think about it almost every day. Don't get me wrong, I don't dwell on it, but something from it pops into my brain at least once a day. I wish it didn't, but it does.

Like others, I'm wondering if the film can possibly capture the bleakness of the book. I guess it took a hundred pages for it really to sink in to me (I'm slow). There's no sun, no stars, no blue sky, no green plants or trees, no animals, only gray, dreary snow, rain, or clouds, and cold. . . and almost complete hopelessness.

To me, the book wasn't so much a high-falutin' allegory or metaphor, as much as it was a simple exploration of what things would truly be like, and it terrified me because of its realism. I've read and seen plenty of post-apacolyptic tales, and NONE of them seems as close to how things would really be as The Road.

Posted by: Hoof Hearted at November 23, 2009 2:20 PM

I guess it's kind of hard for me to comprehend that someone could really feel that way about it. That book murdered me, it was so good.

Posted by: AdaHaze at November 23, 2009 2:34 PM

I agree about the adaptation of No Country. It was very faithful to the source material, and it was still a worthwhile experience. Actually seeing Anton Chigurh as someone else interpreted him was riveting.

I think the reason I found The Road a weaker novel is because in all his other work, acts of utter depravity are presented as a matter-of-course. Here's a horrifying awful thing that happened, and it did happen, and now we go on living with no further discussion of it. In The Road, the horrible acts are there to be pondered. If the BBQ baby scene would have happened in Blood Meridian or Child of God or even The Border Trilogy, there would have been no attempt made to hide it from any character analogous to The Boy.

Posted by: Wednesday at November 23, 2009 2:51 PM

@ Adahaze: Yes, but you kind of make your own point by calling it art. Art is, in an of itself, subjective. There are things that some people find to be masterpieces that others find to be boring and uninteresting.

I get that you clearly vehemently disagree with the reviewer's opinion, but that does not make him wrong, either for his opinion or for his word choice. Had he called it "horrible," would that have somehow satisfied you more?

Posted by: Skewicide Blonde at November 23, 2009 2:57 PM

"Had he called it "horrible," would that have somehow satisfied you more?"
Well, I probably would have been able to argue my point more eloquently.

Posted by: AdaHaze at November 23, 2009 3:03 PM

The trailers are not indicative at all of how the film plays. They basically spliced together every single moment in the film in which people are moving or reacting at a speed of anything more than a walk and created the illusion of an action movie. It is very tonally misleading, and from a marketing perspective, I certainly understand why.

Just to let you know my background on this, I haven't read the book, and I haven't read any other McCarthy either. I am a big fan of The Proposition and No Country For Old Men. I only caught the same screening that Drew did a couple weeks ago. I thought it was excellent in terms of the acting and the visuals, but narratively I found it a little thin. It's an awfully long way to go for a very simple message and a very simple character arc. It wasn't too bleak for me; I dig bleak. I just didn't find it to be a surprising or transcendent story, and perhaps that is a failing of the source material, when it comes to attempting to faithfully adapt it to film. I imagine that with McCarthy's descriptions and internal monologues (which are used somewhat frequently in the first half hour in the film and then seem to disappear), the book's prose manages to make it more compelling.

I found the score a little lacking in the Charlize scenes; it was a little heavyhanded. Otherwise, that aspect of the film was good.

Posted by: DarthCorleone at November 23, 2009 3:20 PM

On adaptations: I am never a fan of adapting a book completely onto a movie. Being too faithful often pleases the hardcore fanbases but can be too restrictive to attract new fans. As we saw this weekend with New Moon, if you are so faithful, you tend to bring over all the troubles that can be ignored on the written page but that stick out on a big screen.

Posted by: Fredo at November 23, 2009 4:03 PM

The book is not mediocre just because a reviewer says it's mediocre. Drew is saying he found the book mediocre. That statement is correct and can't really be argued. Reviews are assumed to be written as someone's personal opinion.

That being the case, there is no need to take offense to Drew's statements about the novel.

Posted by: becks at November 23, 2009 5:07 PM

As we saw this weekend with New Moon, if you are so faithful, you tend to bring over all the troubles that can be ignored on the written page but that stick out on a big screen.

I'm sorry Fredo, but I must put my pretension hat on. There are flaws in Twilight that are capable of being ignored?

Posted by: Mr. Tusks at November 23, 2009 5:14 PM

Haven't read the book; both it and the movie sound like a big giant pile of DEPRESSING. Damn... still haven't gone to see "Precious," and I'm pretty sure I don't want to pay to be bummed out by a post-apocalyptic America, either.

Unless they're shooting zombies in the head and saying shit like, "Nut up or shut up," I'm kinda not interested in end-of-the-world scenarios anymore. Been there, read/seen that.

Posted by: Slash at November 23, 2009 6:44 PM

"For instance, Cormac McCarthy can write a nuclear disaster into a book at the cost of a couple words." He never said what happened in the book. Fail.

"Finally, a book can stretch hundreds of pages," The book was NOT hundreds of pages. Fail.

"barren prose and a rather trite theme." "Barren prose" is his style. Love between sure-to-die father and only young son at the end of the world is far from trite. Fail.

"Sometimes strict fidelity works (Sin City)" "Sin City," aside from Mickey Rourke, was a piece of crap. Fail.

Listen, many reader found "No Country..." and "The Road" to be weak. I thought the first was brilliant, and the second literally gave me bad dreams while I was reading it. I found the movie of the first to be brilliant, and I have high hopes for the movie of the second. I did read a pages-long review of the movie version of "The Road" by Tom Carson, and he claimed it was devastating. If I find it so too, I look forward to coming back here and posting yet another FAIL directed at Drew.

No offense, Drew; I just think you're off the mark here.


Posted by: growler at November 23, 2009 7:14 PM

It's safe to say the movie will not be nearly as awful as this review.

Posted by: Frank at November 23, 2009 7:26 PM

Whoever said that it's prose over plot has my support. There are only so many plots in the world, and 'themes' (nurgh...) aren't literature, they're just a convenience means through which your writing style is deployed--or, so I believe. Take all of those Jeeves and Wooster books, which ostensibly are the same thing over and over, but I love that shit! Bertie's Magdalen upper crust slang and near inability to see a word through to the end without ending '-aish' cracks me up. It's style! Can you imagine Chinua Achebe's 'Drones Fall Apart'? It would interesting, but not quite in the same way as his other stuff.

If I can play Devil's Advocate:

Arts professors are fucking pathologically persnickety--self-indulgently so. They'll take their castrating little pencils to a syllable and query: 'Why'? But FINE ARTS professors? They really do have a way of reminding you that you're expendable, but only through their hell-breathed guidance will you receive that golden sheath of post-grad shit that is such a desideratum to your future life as a high-classed hobo. You must be a talented clone, just never get more talented than the instructor. Here, Dr. Acula. Take this thimble, it was my lunch.

Here's a question, teacher: Why didn't your mother swallow?


If a point seems over-explained, it's probably because he got used to the experience of some self-infatuated Dr. Ass-Head dragging him up to his office hours to berate him over using 'catsup' over 'ketchup', or some similar fuckery. Either you learn to toe the line, or some fool TA is going to have to explain the speedballs found in the toxicology report. This information will be given to your family whilst the loan officers confiscate the Masonic family coffin. Although I guess that reference wasn't esoteric enough. You know you've that sweet ivory tower shuffle when everyone else in the room has an 'I am going to violence you to death, preppy' look. That's what makes you a 'scholar'. Oh, WWBD?: What Would Bakhtin Do?

Just going to graduate school gets a nod from me. It's this incredible, humbling opportunity that has a way of drifting into paralytic terror.

Posted by: Jo 'Mama' Besser at November 23, 2009 10:14 PM

I've read the book, this review, and all the comments above. But I have no idea what impressions Drew or many of the other commenters have on the film, which was the whole point of me reading the post above.

I admire Drew's thoughtful examination of the expression "faithful rendering" and appreciate the discussion from commenters like Mr. Tusks, DeistBrawler, etc. Still, I have no idea why Morton considers the film mediocre. Was all the crying a sign of overacting? Was the scene with the traveler too long, too drawn-out, too trite? Even if the book was mediocre as source material, why did the film "fail?" I wish the review dealt more with the failings of the film as stand-alone material -- not with why fans of books often dislike movie adaptions and how utterly illogical that feeling is. Why did the film fall short of fair like "The Proposition?"

And on a side note, how does one italicize or embolden in the comment boxes?

Posted by: amenfro at November 24, 2009 1:08 AM

I don't really have the time to engage all the points (criticisms or just general comments) but I will say this:

I don't write to be popular (or I'd be gushing over "New Moon") and I don't write to be contrarian (or I'd be hating on "A Single Man" and "A Serious Man" most recently). My goal is not to get you to always agree with me but to start an informed dialogue from a subjective point-of-view, which I feel it has done.

I can only say wait until you see the film as well (which only two or three of you have done) and then re-visit this review.

Posted by: Drew Morton at November 24, 2009 1:18 AM

Apocaporn.

What? No, nothing, really. Just like the sound of it.

Posted by: , (just , cause I'm tired of typing that other shit) at November 24, 2009 1:25 AM

@ becks"That being the case, there is no need to take offense to Drew's statements about the novel. "
I didn't. It just honestly kind of blew my little mind, though, the usage of the word mediocre in reference to the book, and I got hung up on that.

Posted by: AdaHaze at November 24, 2009 1:57 AM

I'm sorry Fredo, but I must put my pretension hat on. There are flaws in Twilight that are capable of being ignored?

If you sparkle hard enough...

amenfro, it's like this , only you don't put spaces in between. Put in a b instead of an i and it Bolds the words. Put in a s and it slashes through the words.

Posted by: Fredo at November 24, 2009 3:19 AM

I did read a pages-long review of the movie version of "The Road" by Tom Carson, and he claimed it was devastating. If I find it so too, I look forward to coming back here and posting yet another FAIL directed at Drew.

That might be the stupidest thing ever written on this site. And that's saying something.

Posted by: Skewicide Blonde at November 24, 2009 10:31 AM

What "Growler" FAILED (hah) to notice are:

1. I mentioned in the opening that disaster was unknown and was merely trying to make a point by placing it in the column of a nuclear disaster for illustrating the process of adaptation.

2. The book, at least the paperback I have, is 281 pages.

Finally, and this is directed at any one interested, I saw the film with three other people (one from my program, one in the industry, and one in public relations). Two of the people had read McCarthy before and I believe we all had a B.A. background in literature. All three of us were not particularly taken with the film due to the triteness of its theme.

Posted by: Drew Morton at November 24, 2009 10:50 AM

Like I said, Drew, I will come back after I have seen the film.

I guess mainly I will be really disappointed if it's not good, and this was just venting at the possibility that it will not be good.

Posted by: growler at November 24, 2009 11:49 AM

Drew, you miscounted the men.

Posted by: becks at November 24, 2009 12:10 PM

This fucking review was awful, get off your high horse and write like you're not a pompous douchebag......you turd.

Posted by: Coco Bravo at November 24, 2009 12:32 PM

Coco,

What a thoughtful and supportive response! I actually take your remarks that I'm on a "high horse" and a "pompous douchebag" rather affectionately, as they are common descriptions of film critics. Thanks for letting me know I've finally made it. I'd like to take a moment to thank my parents, wife, and mentors for their support throughout the years. This is the recognition I've been waiting for.

Posted by: Drew Morton at November 24, 2009 12:40 PM

Well, shit. If that's all it was gonna take for you to feel like you've made it, you should have to told me. I could have called you all kinds of names.

Posted by: TK at November 24, 2009 3:12 PM

All I know is that this was partially filmed in Erie PA on Presque Isle! My hometown!

Posted by: Vicki at November 24, 2009 3:48 PM

I really can't abide posters who attack the credentials of the critic (especially when they're rock solid) or resort to name-calling as discourse. Please grow up before posting.

I haven't read the book and so will side-step adaptation as the source of inspiration for the film or as a means to analyze the film's failings. Instead, considering the film on its own merits, they are unfortunately few. The Road aims for elegaic but lands in wallow; even Big. Serious. Art. needs to operate in diverse emotional registers. Its fable-like characters unfortunately lack specific motivation for most actions (to describe them would give them away), and any emotional/internal development can only be measured in milliliters of excreted tears. The ending is a real Hollywood howler, straight out of some fantasy land reserved for orphans. All it lacked was a musical number from Annie. Which is just as well--it would have been a one-note dirge.

Posted by: Dog at November 24, 2009 7:39 PM

Ok, I'll just ask. What the hell does "The Road aims for elegaic but lands in wallow" mean? I'm lost.

Posted by: becks at November 24, 2009 8:28 PM

I'll try again:

Drew, you don't actually say why the film is not that good, other than because it tries to remain faithful to the book. How does this manifest itself in poor movie-making? (I hate the word manifest, sorry.) What is actually wrong with the film? Simplicity of theme? Crying?

And this one, too:

I've read the book, this review, and all the comments above. But I have no idea what impressions Drew or many of the other commenters have on the film, which was the whole point of me reading the post above.

Still, I have no idea why Morton considers the film mediocre. Was all the crying a sign of overacting? Was the scene with the traveler too long, too drawn-out, too trite? Even if the book was mediocre as source material, why did the film "fail?" I wish the review dealt more with the failings of the film as stand-alone material -- not with why fans of books often dislike movie adaptions and how utterly illogical that feeling is. Why did the film fall short of fair like "The Proposition?"

This was the response:

I can only say wait until you see the film as well (which only two or three of you have done) and then re-visit this review.

Really? The review doesn't actually review the film, it reviews the adaptation, which may be interesting but it sure doesn't tell me shit about the film. A review of a translated book needs to address the translation, sure, but it better address the actual book or it's pretty useless.

Posted by: Brenton at November 24, 2009 10:33 PM

This is the only book I have ever read that actually made me cry. To this day the book makes me tear up when I think about it. The people I speak to that have read the book and are effected by it/enjoy it the most are people that have children. I think it is easy to put yourself in the position of the man (especially as a father) which makes the story hit close to home. After reading The Road I went and borrowed No Country (the book)and just was not as blown away as some people. I thought the movie was good, but I found the story itself to be somewhat shallow and empty. I guess I expected more from a best picture winner and a book that are both widely admired.

Posted by: Alex at November 25, 2009 1:57 AM

Drew, Ph.D student...You lost me as well at "made a mediocre film based on a mediocre book." Many people who have read this book found it so incredibly heart wrenching that they refuse to read it again. Most of these people were indeed parents. I on the other hand DON'T have children and this book brought me to tears.If anyone can write something so perfectly visceral, well...I MUST call that incredible storytelling. The story left me in a place both horrible and glorious, with a simultaneous disgust withand hope for mankind.
I will say that you have me more excited to see it knowing that they have remained faithful to the novel in their adaptation. Your lack of taste is...well...your problem. You are, after all, a Ph.D student in cinema and media studies. I went to school with a lot of you. You people generally tend to miss the point, so I'm not surprised. But nevertheless, thank you for getting me excited about this movie. After the first trailer, I thought they had missed the point as well...

Posted by: Jay at November 25, 2009 6:14 AM

"You people," Jay? If anti-intellectuals adopt the rhetoric of racists, then we truly will be living in a McCarthy-esque, post-apocalyptic world.

Posted by: Dog at November 25, 2009 11:13 AM

I don't think he's anti-intellectual. He seems to dislike Ph.D students in cinema and media studies. Well, dislike may even be too strong a word. I'm not sure that can be equated to racism quite yet so it's possible you're being hyperbolic.

Posted by: becks at November 25, 2009 12:28 PM

Jay,

I double-majored in English literature and Film Studies as a B.A. student, so it's not like I'm illiterate or uncultured when it comes to the written word. I acknowledge that "The Road" and McCarthy has a lot of admirers, even in the academic community but, I'm guided by my own tastes at the end of the day.

Brenton,

Sorry, I'm not ignoring you. I felt like my review answered your question, but perhaps indirectly. My main objection to the theme of the film (also the theme of the book) is that it is so simple that it doesn't really sustain. One reason I had a hard time writing the review is for the following reasons:

The film/book would stand in the road genre, right?

Well, pieces of art in that genre normally follow certain traits to keep the story interesting (and traditional, but bracket that value judgment for the time being).

First, the main characters engage in interactions with other people and learn something about their surroundings and, perhaps ultimately, about themselves. "The Road" doesn't really do that and the encounters are all fairly similar (Are you trying to steal my food or are you trying to kill my kid?). Rinse and repeat for two hours.

Secondly, there isn't really growth of character. The kid keeps telling the man not to worry and to trust that others keep the fire early in the film and that's where we ultimately end up.

If storytelling and screenwriting workshops, for all the crap they can produce, have taught us anything it's that a narrative needs a dramatic arc of some form. Sadly, the arc in "The Road" is as flat as the asphalt the characters are walking on. Nothing happens, as I said, except crying, running, and fearful embraces.

The reason I could not separate the film from the novel (and a lot of reviews seem to follow this path as well) is because Hillcoat's attempt at fidelity ultimately chains the film down. His assumption seems to be that the source material was flawless and worked, so just port it over to film. Yet, as I said, not only are film and books two inherently different media, so certain things (subjective narration in a book most significantly) can't be brought over so easily. Also, this approach to the film, in my own, subjective, opinion, overlooked faults in the original novel that were only amplified by the inability to hide behind McCarthy's barren prose.

Posted by: Drew Morton at November 25, 2009 12:34 PM

Becks: Anyone who builds a critique on "You people" is stereotyping. (Which people, exactly? Do you know them all? On what basis can you make that judgment?) And stereotyping is a hallmark of racism. See Tropic Thunder for a cinematic representation (and deconstruction) of the very phrase "you people." Quite funny, actually.

This of course does not make the statement "you people" de facto racist (or the people who use it). But there is a striking similarity between castigating different groups of people by the same superficial association (i.e., "you people")--instead of evaluating people as individuals.

Returning to the PhD issue, it's quite clear Jay has significant issues with advanced degrees in cinematic arts (check his opening salvo: "Drew, PhD student..." Now who would bother to describe the author as such if it wasn't a problem for the poster?). But maybe you couldn't hear it over the sound of the axe he is grinding.

Back to the film itself (isn't that the point?): the author has outlined his problems with it (and outlined them again, it appears). It will be interesting to see what others think when they have actually seen the film (and are not trying to debate the film as an unseen extension of the book). No doubt some people will love it.

Of course, we'll get to have this debate again in a few weeks when The Lovely Bones comes out (finally). Devotees of that book may end up making orthodox LOTR fans look quite reasonable. We'll find out soon enough!

Posted by: Dog at November 25, 2009 1:21 PM

Thanks, Drew. That makes more sense. I think, though, that you missed a fundamental aspect of the book that probably didn't translate well onto film (I'll have to wait to see).

The relentless and utterly devastating lack of humanity in the world seems, at first, to be a set-up for a traditional story arc of difficulty, flight, hardship, overcoming, more difficulties, then redemption. As one progresses through, though, the lack of compassion, the constant fear and horror, they sink in, and one begins to realize that maybe there won't be redemption. Halfway through it hits you: there is no hope. One refuses to believe, but it's so constant.

The remainder of the novel is like bullfight, the reader as the bull jumping at a red flag of hope, only to have it yanked away and be stabbed in the back. Sometimes there is no hope. Sometimes all we have is love.

Posted by: Brenton at November 25, 2009 1:58 PM

Dog, I understood. I felt I was pointing out to you how ridiculous it is to compare something as silly as a mild bias towards Ph.D students of film and actual racism. It's hyperbolic.

I pictured you chuckling once you read that and realizing how dramatic you sounded. I was trying to point out to you that maybe you could dial it back just a little. I have a habit of occasionally going overboard as well so I totally relate to your desire to exaggerate to get your point across but let's try and keep things in perspective a little bit.

Posted by: becks at November 25, 2009 2:46 PM

Brenton, that was a lovely interpretation of the theme of the novel. I've never heard it put quite so well.

Posted by: becks at November 25, 2009 2:52 PM

Becks, I don't think you get it at all. Ad hominem attacks (aka, stereotyping) are bad in most forms, whether your target is a group based on their intellectual/academic affiliation or their race or something else. If "you people...tend to miss the point" constitutes "mild bias" for you (that is, writing off a whole group of people based solely on their affiliation is no biggie), I wouldn't want to stick around for the extreme form.

Posted by: dog at November 25, 2009 3:29 PM

I feel his comments were snotty and he's probably kind of an asshole. He's too emotionally invested in the novel to discuss the review in an intelligent way and instead became somewhat childish. I think you got carried away as well. Those are my feelings and insinuating that I'm somehow also guilty of whatever it is you seem to think he's guilty of is not changing them.

Snarky remarks about Ph.D students do not equate to racism in my mind and never will. The comparison simply takes the whole discussion further away from where I wish this thread was going, a thoughtful discussion of the film and even the novel without silly name calling and hyperbole.

Posted by: becks at November 25, 2009 3:51 PM

Don't get me wrong, name calling and hyperbole are fun and they have their place but I felt this was a thoughtful novel and a thoughtful review so I was hoping for an equally thoughtful discussion in the comments.

Posted by: becks at November 25, 2009 3:54 PM

I see my comparison has been reduced to one equals the other. I never said that. But they do reflect a same strategy: lump the individual into a whole, then devalue the whole group without ever examining the individual--or in this case, the individual's work. I think walking around saying "you people are (followed by negative)" will elicit very strong reactions from the people inside those groups. You could certainly conduct a little experiment and find out for yourself whether their reactions would simply be "hyperbole" for you. I'll look forward to your findings.

On getting back to the film itself I think we're in violent agreement, as my initial posts bridged back to the film in question and made the plea that we all do so (and not slam the reviewer by stereotype). I would refer you back to those posts; I've certainly tried to express, without giving away plot points, why I did not care for the film--its tone, its characters, or its ending. But if you're still interested in the film, then by all means go see it and draw your own conclusions.

Posted by: Dog at November 25, 2009 4:37 PM

To the people who claim no one who saw the film expressed why they disliked it:

I suggest you look again. Drew clarified his opinions in the comments, which I thought was above and beyond what he had to do. As I've learned through years of blogging, if you address the critics, you open yourself to personal attacks and greater insults. I thought the review was quite clear that he was underwhelmed by the film and wanted it to be better than it was. Some films are mediocre. A few of us think this is one of them. When there's little to hate and little to love, how can one put a check mark next to "good" or "bad?"

He's not the only one to come forth with exact reasons why the film disappointed. Dog expressed his opinions well. I know I pretty clearly said that I thought the film suffered because everything was about Viggo. I know I also pretty clearly said that I thought the film never established a consistent style or tone and suffered for lack of cohesion.

If you hate Drew's reviews, I suggest staying away from any major newspaper critic, since it's not exactly a guarantee that you'll be told "I did/n't like this film because x, y, z. You should/n't go see it it ." I'd love to see the reaction if you guys posted these "Drew's a douche" comments about some of the NYTimes film staff, for example. I'm struggling to think of a time when, say, Manohla Dargis came forward and said "Dudes, seriously, avoid this film. It's awful. The characters are paper thin, the effects suck, and the score's a distraction (or any combination of bullet-list complaints)." If that's what you believe the job of a film critic is, I suggest you stick to the film boards at IMDB. Then you'll happily be joined by others willing to call a reviewer a douche because he did not give a film a thumb rating and compare pros and cons like a video game review.

No wonder Pajiba loses some of its more interesting reviewers and writers. People who want a clear "see/don't see" answer and nothing but snark tear them apart for not dumbing down their opinions and presenting a film review like a grade school book report. I've gotten into it with the staff here as well, but at least I defend my position with my own interpretation of the film or research into a subject (namely horror). Baseless arguments and ad hominem attacks are nothing short of lazy.

Posted by: Robert at November 25, 2009 9:20 PM

Sooooo....it is interesting the parallels between this set of review and comments, and the Twilight/New Moon one.

Mainly the insistence that the reviewer is somehow not "getting" the material (book or movie), otherwise he would have loved it. Sometimes you can get something, and just not be all that in love with it. It is just his prerogative.

Posted by: Smoking Crater (formerly Vermillion) at November 25, 2009 10:14 PM

Drew,

I personally think The Road was the best book I read last year, one of the few that has made me cry. I also think some of the imagery in the book is absolutely haunting and beautful.

That said, I really enjoyed your review. How I wish that this movie would be as great as I thought the book was. I can't say I'm surprised though, while reading the book I questioned how it could properly be translated to the screen.

Truthfully, I think the best director for this project would have been Terrence Malick.

I'm still going to see it though. If Viggo Mortensen's in a movie, the general rule is I go.

Posted by: Tierney at November 26, 2009 2:03 AM

FWIW I was reminded by an article in my newspaper today that some of this was filmed a few miles from Stately , Manor, on a stretch of highway that got built and awaits the connecting bridge or bridges on this end to complete the road to nowhere. So when you're looking at the screen and thinking "desolation, destruction and nuclear apocalyse" I'll be thinking "Just another day in West Virginia."

Posted by: , (just , cause I'm tired of typing that other shit) at November 26, 2009 12:59 PM

I saw it last night in NYC. Best film of 2009 so far. Emotionally devestating, the film had such a strong heart. This review is so off base it's ridiculous. It's not about the destination, but about the trip getting there, and it's well worth taking.

Posted by: Paul at November 26, 2009 10:10 PM

Paul,

Do me a huge favor and go see the following titles before making the "best of 2009" proclamation:

The Beaches of Agnès
The Brothers Bloom
Coraline
District 9
Inglourious Basterds
Precious: Based on a Novel by Sapphire
A Serious Man
A Single Man
Up
Up in the Air

Posted by: Drew Morton at November 28, 2009 2:33 PM

I saw the film and I loved it! I really want to read the book. "Yet, at the end of the day, Hillcoat indulges McCarthy’s emphasis on a lot of crying, a lot of running, and a lot of fearful embraces." Huh? I don't remember a lot of crying in the film. He cries at the end and that's about it. You enjoyed No Country for Old Men? Seriously? Talk about "dull and boring". I love the Coen brothers, but that was their worst movie by far. The story was incredibly boring and I found myself counting the minutes until the blasted thing ended. Why it won an Oscar is beyond me. But The Road really hits you and I'm having a hard time shaking it off. Excellent film.

Posted by: Kris at November 29, 2009 3:49 PM

"Do me a huge favor and go see the following titles before making the "best of 2009" proclamation"

Considering your horrible review of The Road, I'm surprised you didn't have 2012 on your "list".

Posted by: Kris at November 29, 2009 3:54 PM

Judging from the lukewarm aggrigate scores for "The Road" on Metacritic (64%) and Rotten Tomatoes (71%), it's beginning to look like the "excellent film" and "best film of the year" proclaimations are the odd-men out.

As for "2012," I haven't seen it, but I would probably be able to find something far more interesting theme in it (even if not "intended" by the filmmaker) than the trite plot of father loves son.

Posted by: Drew Morton at November 29, 2009 6:24 PM

Well Drew I suppose you finally have some common ground with the people who think that this was the best film of the year. You didn't like the book. That makes you the odd man out.


Posted by: becks at November 30, 2009 2:35 AM

If you like this depressingly desperate "road kill" movie, and some do, you gotta read a book called "The Forth Turning" by Strauss. Neither "The Road" nor "The Forth Turning" paint a very pretty picture of the future. Being a single old "young" guy in an old man's body it is not hard for me to relate to the main survival struggle theme in "The Road" by just living through past war conditions makes me love life. In fact "The Road" can be seen as a metaphore for my life in many ways. Right now I am on a good stretch of road in life, other than a job layoff, I am dating a woman 12 years younger than me. We met at an age gap dating site. In most of life and survival "The Road" is not always smooth, but it gets us there. Love life and your fellow man, or woman!

Posted by: Danny Boy at December 1, 2009 3:01 AM

Good post about loans.

Posted by: Bridge Financing at December 18, 2009 11:14 AM





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