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Duckie Finally Wins!

By Dustin Rowles | Posted Under Film Reviews | Comments (35)



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As far as important John Hughes’ films go, I have to reluctantly confess that, before this week, I’d never seen Some Kind of Wonderful, an embarrassing admission for a reviewer so unabashedly fond of Mr. Hughes. But in this case, the oversight serves me well, as I can objectively view a Hughes’ film without my judgment being clouded by nostalgia. I had no preexisting relationship with this film, nor any allegiances to the characters, so my perception is not colored.

Some Kind of Wonderful is not a particularly great movie, for all the reasons one might expect when viewing a 1987 film for the first time in 2010: It’s dated, cheesy, terribly directed, the music is painful, and the performances are mediocre, at best. There are no emotional transitions in this movie: The characters align around each other for inexplicable and unexplained reasons: Keith falls in love with Amanda just because; Watts realizes her love for Keith just because; Amanda develops an affection for Keith just because; and ultimately (*spoiler*), Keith decides that he loves Watts. Just because. There’s very little in the script or in the character’s actions to create a context for these romantic decisions. They happen, just because.

The film, like another John Hughes’ scripted flick, Pretty in Pink, comes from director Howard Deutch, who seemingly does all he can to wreck Hughes’ script. But as hard as he tries, and as little as the character motivations make sense, somehow, that John Hughes’ magic seeps through. Don’t ask me to explain how, because the John Hughes’ aura is confounding: He wrote simple scripts with conventional story lines, stock characters and predictable outcomes. But the Hughesian warmth somehow rises above and snatches your attention. It is those very stock characters and conventional storylines that make it work: Because of our familiarity with Hughesian situations, we can fill in the context ourselves and while the emotional transitions don’t take place on screen, we make those logical leaps in our minds.

Eric Stoltz is Keith, the sensitive outcast in the extreme: There’s zero dynamism in Stoltz’s character — he has one dimension, and it is: Speak softly. Keith is in love with Amanda (Lea Thompson) because Amanda is popular, and in the 80s, that’s all it takes in a high-school movie. He’s best friends with the much prettier tomboy (Mary Stuart Masterson), and — despite the short hair — the attraction discrepancy is stark. She’s beautiful and interesting, while Amanda is conventional-looking and popular. Amanda is in a troubled relationship with Hardy Jenns (Craigh Sheffer), stock bully character #1, who is rich, spoiled, and probably has a very tiny penis. Jenns likes to make out with other women, like Chynna Phillips, and dismisses Amanda’s distress as jealousy. Amanda eventually tires of Hardy’s shenanigans, and that’s exactly when Keith decides to ask her out. Amanda says yes because she wants to make Hardy jealous, and Keith goes home speaking softly with a huge grin on his face. Meanwhile, at that very moment, Watts decides that, “Hey! I must be in love with Keith because the script said so, right there on page 36.”

And thus the love triangle is established. The three characters spend much of the rest of the film treating each other poorly, which somehow endears them to each other. Because, presumably, the mistreatment is borne out of affection. Watts tells Keith that Amanda doesn’t really like him; that it’s a joke. Keith tells Watts to screw off. And Amanda strings Keith along, knowing that she’s really not all that interested in him. That somehow forms the basis for the affection triage.

How it works is a complete fucking mystery to me, but in the end, it does. It’s all the more mysterious because, as his date progresses with Amanda, Keith’s affection for her seems to intensify and vice versa, and up until the final seconds of the film, he never betrays his affection to her in favor of Watts, even though you know exactly how the long triangle will resolve itself.

I will say this, however: I don’t understand the father/college subplot, and the idea that Keith would blow his college savings on a pair of earrings is troubling to me. What? Does he want to work in a gas station for the rest of his life? Why is Hughes glorifying the decision to choose a girl over a future? The future is not bright for Keith — a middling painter — and Watts, a lackluster drummer. And in this case, their socioeconomic status does not do them any favors: They’re destined to repeat the lives of their parents.

I should also note that the best performance in this film belonged to Elias Koteas, the well-intentioned bully.

Some Kind of Wonderful is considered a bookend to Pretty in Pink, where Hughes decides to correct the mistake he made in the first film by now allowing Duckie to get the girl (or, in this case, Watts to get the boy). They’re both narratively and thematically similar movies, and the lead characters in both are also the least dynamic. It’s clear based on the outcomes in each movie that Hughes was writing these stories for women: In both movies, the underdog female wins. In Pretty in Pink, she ends up with the hunk; in Some Kind of Wonderful, he picks the pretty tomboy. It’s no wonder that so many women adore both movies; it’s teenage wish-fulfillment. But that’s part of the magic of John Hughes. He didn’t challenge us; he gave us what we wanted. If that sounds like a backhanded insult; it’s not. For most, high school was a miserable experience; Hughes consoled us a fairy-tale versions of that life.









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Comments

Elias Koteas is absolutely fantastic in this movie...."just how long have you been a leeeeeeeeeesbiannnnnnnn?" "We're here to raise this party up to a repectable level," and the always memorable...."I'm not gonna hurt him, I just wanna make him cry...a little bit." (or, something like that)

Although, I really wanted the "Watts" look for awhile in the 80's.... sad but true

Posted by: dammitjanet at September 9, 2010 11:43 AM

I loved this when I was younger but I watched it recently and it didn't hold up as well. I think mainly because much of it happens like you said, just because. The whole ending with Keith and Watts is just ridiculous. Oh now I noticed you were hot, even though that other girl was pretty hot too.

And cheeeeesy line: 'You look good wearing my future.' Earrings subplot makes no sense whatsoever. Also, Uncle Keith from One Tree Hill is no James Spader.

But...it's ok enough to pass the time I guess.

Posted by: Carrie at September 9, 2010 11:49 AM

Howard Deutch's filmography is basically a list of "Movies I'd Rather Forcibly Shove Up My Ass Than Watch" save for this and Pretty in Pink, both of which I enjoy in spite of their direction, not because of.

Posted by: Courtney at September 9, 2010 11:54 AM

I *like* the music. *HARRUMMPH*

This movie is so ludicrously melodramatic, but I can't help getting sucked into it. Favorite line: "You're over."

I do think Mary Stuart Masterson created a memorable and effective character here.

Posted by: DarthCorleone at September 9, 2010 11:55 AM

DarthCorleone: I do love the ridiculous 80's style soundtrack, where they just take one (bad) song and play different parts of it in different parts of the movie and call it a day.

Posted by: Dustin Rowles at September 9, 2010 12:02 PM

You Break His Heart I Break Your Face

Posted by: Witnails at September 9, 2010 12:06 PM

I love me some Stoltz. Especially 90's Noah Baumbach Stoltz.

Posted by: Natalia at September 9, 2010 12:09 PM

I love this movie beyond all sense or reason. MSM was my first ever actress girl crush. And, for Admin, the re-usable Hughes line from her is still my favorite. "You mess with the bull, you get the horns."

Posted by: slower lower at September 9, 2010 12:20 PM

I love me some Stoltz. Especially 90's Noah Baumbach Stoltz.
Posted by: Natalia at September 9, 2010 12:09 PM

Otis, did you actually read the book?

I too love Eric Stoltz (hell he was in both Say Anything AND Little Women, what a talent).

Put this in my Netflix Instant Queue, will probably watch it when I'm bored....

Posted by: grace b at September 9, 2010 12:21 PM

My fondness for this movie is explicable precisely because of Elias Koteas. He lit up the screen in ways none of the stars did, and I think he had more of a future as a graphic artist than Keith did as a painter.

I agree that the movie doesn't hold up over time, but they're all so darned pretty and young that I will gladly watch it whenever it runs on cable.

Posted by: Reba at September 9, 2010 12:25 PM

Is that a pajama top?

Posted by: Natalia at September 9, 2010 12:26 PM

Yes, it's cliched, and yes, I saw it when is was 12 so nostalgia plays a role in my affection, but dammit, I love this movie! The scene when Watts teaches Keith how to kiss? Good god! That was a great kiss, and a great song too (She Loves Me by Stephen Duffy, fyi - just looked it up).

Plus, Hardy was SO the typical 80's bully, down to the fact that he looked 10 years older than everyone he was picking on. Not to mention the female bully - that bitch with the curly hair and the jeep who kept bragging about trips to Aspen or whatever. Nobody bullies like a rich 80's bully.

I think that the earrings thing can *sort of* be explained by the fact that Keith saw himself as an artist and that seemed, to him, to be mutually exclusive from attending college, so he didn't care so much about the college savings. But that is super weak, so yeah, I agree with that criticism.

Agreed that Elias Koteas was fantastic, but I have to point out Scott Coffey, who played his typical 80's nerdy/punky/outcast character so well here too ("Do you have any idea how much damage we could do to each other in an hour?"). A small but memorable role. I had a weird thing for Scott Coffey back in the day - anyone remember Satisfaction?

Posted by: Nicole at September 9, 2010 12:33 PM

I think you're being a little unduly harsh in a couple of places - although most of what you lay out rings true.

In particular the behavior of the mains is awkward, stilted and sudden because that is precisely the target audience. Although the actors are much older here, this is certainly a coming of age romance, and aimed at children who are just growing out of the behaviors shown.

Kids very much do the "I really like you so I'm going to put up a false pretense of anger". The touch of brilliance in writing Watts this way is that it allows a 15 year old to look at the film and in their own small world weary fashion understand she has actually loved him all along, because that's how they (the audience) acted when "they were younger".

Despite the overall script being bland and fairly unoriginal, I thought both Thompson and Masterson did well. Certainly a bit more nuanced than Pretty in Pink, which was more fun and a better movie, but asked less of the actors.

Posted by: frobme at September 9, 2010 12:35 PM

Isn't this movie what led to the "breakup" of John Hughes and Molly Ringwald, because she wouldn't star in it? I can't picture her in this movie.

Posted by: Courtney at September 9, 2010 12:50 PM

Is that a pajama top?

Posted by: Natalia at September 9, 2010 12:26 PM


No. *hangs head in shame* Yes.

Posted by: angie at September 9, 2010 12:52 PM

For some reason this is one of my favorite 80s movies. I agree, it doesn't hold up but I try not to think about it too much and just enjoy it while having a moment of teenage crazy love miserable swooning angst. And the kissing scene still kills me.

Posted by: angie at September 9, 2010 12:56 PM

Eric Stoltz sucked DONKEY BALLS in this movie. God. I hate how he acted. By which I mean, he didn't.

But I pretty much love the rest of it, a movie from my own teen years.

I watched it with my daughter recently and in the scene where Hardy Jenns takes Keith to task for "looking at his property" she went OFF on him saying that about her. That made me happy. Talking about "she shoulda SNAPPED HIS NECK for saying that! She's not his PROPERTY!"

Oh these millenial kids. Amanda probably felt all warm and fuzzy when he said that!

Anyway! Here we go:

Get your skag and let's go.

Oh, you wanna start a book club with her?

And the best line ever:

ANY FOOL CAN GET INTO A COLLEGE. ONLY A PRECIOUS FEW CAN SAY THE SAME ABOUT AMANDA JONES!!!!!

Also, my husband crushes HARD on MSM in this movie.

Posted by: Snuggiepants at September 9, 2010 1:04 PM

I had the biggest crush on Watts.

Favourite lines (in addition to the ones above):

"Is this detention?"
"No, it's your mother's house. And we're all havin' a party."

"This is what my girlfriend would look like... without skin."

"Punch her apron once for me."

"It must be a henhouse cuz all I see is chicken shiiiiiiiitt."

"Hey, pal. Been checking out some colleges."
"Dad, you going to college?"

"Well, it's probably better to have an old man nagging you about your future... than no old man not nagging you about nothing."

(teacher pulls nudie playing cards from Duncan's pocket) "Those were a gift, from your wife"

"Don't go mistaking paradise for a pair of long legs."

And this always makes me choke up, when Watts is telling Keith she can't be around him:
"And I'd rather not see you and have you think good things about me...than have you see me and hate me.
'Cause I can't afford to have you hate me, Keith.
The only things I care about in this goddamn life are me and my drums... and you."

Posted by: Brenton at September 9, 2010 1:34 PM

Bravo, Natalia & angie.

Posted by: DarthCorleone at September 9, 2010 2:25 PM

So, Dustin, after I pleaded for you to write this, Viv and I watched it and, I must admit, I was unable to defend my affection for it. I have some theories cooking about the stock Duckie character and when it works and when it fizzles. But MSM's portrayal makes me want her to have anything she wants, even if it is an oddly made-up Eric Stolz (WHY ARE YOU WEARING SO MUCH EYELINER AND ROUGE, STOLZY?).

And yes, Elias Koteas takes the movie and runs with it. When Stolz showes him his composition book and Koteas wrenches up the desk he's been defacing to show him in return? Beautiful. Also, I appreciated little DJ Tanner in the precocious younger sister role. She kicks Chloe Moretz' 500 Days of Summer sister in the teeth.

Posted by: coveredinbees at September 9, 2010 2:25 PM

"I should also note that the best performance in this film belonged to Elias Koteas"

There a dozens of movies that you could say the same thing about. Well, except CYBORG 2, where the best thing is 18 yr old Angelina Jolie's breasts.

Posted by: Sean at September 9, 2010 2:52 PM

Scott Coffey (So cute in Shag. Cute movie, too) and Elias Koteas, big love for them in this.

MSM (her real-life mom played Samantha's mom in Sixteen Candles, btw) is adorable and I still love her to this day and want to be her. I am still trying for that hair.

My biggest problem with this movie is that we are suppose to believe that Keith isn't popular. Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't realize that the entire high school was blind. Eric Stoltz was some kind of gorgeous. Ridiculously, out of this world pretty and he couldn't get a date? Bullshit.

Oh, and you still see that curly haired bitch occasionally and I still don't like her.

Posted by: Shonda at September 9, 2010 3:42 PM

I remember listening to the soundtrack to this movie over and over. Aaaaand I can't remember what the hell was on it. Other than a very fey sounding girl singing "I can't help falling in love".

I'm not going to look it up - doing so and actually listening to that soundtrack would probably screw up my existing "good vibe" feel I have when I think about that era.

Same could probably be said about watching this movie again, I suppose.

Posted by: malechai at September 9, 2010 4:14 PM

This is back on my Netflix cue at the top just so I can have the opportunity to look at Eric Stolz' beautiful young face again.

Posted by: NeoCleo at September 9, 2010 5:33 PM

That's funny, I just watched this last night for the first time. And I also consider myself a huge Hughes fan. But this movie... just never seemed very intriguing. And after viewing it, I stand by that assessment.

The characters align around each other for inexplicable and unexplained reasons: Keith falls in love with Amanda just because; Watts realizes her love for Keith just because; Amanda develops an affection for Keith just because; and ultimately (*spoiler*), Keith decides that he loves Watts. Just because. There’s very little in the script or in the character’s actions to create a context for these romantic decisions. They happen, just because.

Exactly! That is precisely what I thought when I watched it. I couldn't for the life of me figure out why these people were attracted to one another (beyond the physical, of course).

And Hardy Jenns may be the ugliest "stud" of any 80's movie. That chin of his is frightening!

Posted by: MelBivDevoe at September 9, 2010 10:07 PM

nonsensical, overly dramatic, and cliched...so you're saying it's like Twilight a la John Hughes? Pass. That's too much melodrama, angst and crappy 80's music for me.

Posted by: Jessie at September 10, 2010 1:07 AM

i love this goddamn movie, and if you don't, you must be out of your brilliant mind.

i've owned the soundtrack for twenty years.

Posted by: stopthemadness at September 10, 2010 2:26 AM

My favorite line: "Do you know how much damage we could do to each other in an hour?"

Posted by: thecreepingkid at September 10, 2010 3:30 AM

Sorry, but having the original Pretty in Pink novelisation, I have to correct you - John Hughes didn't write the script to Pretty in Pink so that the underdog female 'wins'. In the original story, Andi doesn't end up with Blaine, she dances with Duckie, and not really in a romantic way from what I remember.
So Some Kind of Wonderful isn't him correcting his mistake with the first film, it's him giving it the ending Pretty in Pink should have had, more or less.

I'm in my 40s, I really shouldn't care about this, and yet, I do.

Posted by: Ponytail at September 10, 2010 10:06 AM

This movie is worth it just for the March of Violets song. And what the hell happened to Craigh Sheffer, he was poised to be the "next" guy to do stuff, somehow he ended up taking straight to video roles that Corey Haim was to wasted to show up for. And sorry, but Amanda Jones was NOT hot enough to blow your college money on, she just, wasn't. Dude could have paid for three hookers and lots of blow.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at September 10, 2010 12:58 PM

To add to Ponytail: My understanding is that the test screening for Pretty in Pink had the original ending -- in which Andi blows off Blaine to dance with Duckie -- but the test viewers went ape-shit-bonkers crazy. Like truly angry throw-stuff-at-the-screen mad. Accordingly, we got the new ending where Duckie gets the shaft from Andi (but gets the smile from the random bimbo out of nowhere to make up for it).

Posted by: jollies at September 10, 2010 3:31 PM

I gotta say, this movie really ticked me off when I saw it back in the day. Why? Because I really, really liked Watts. And I was pissed by the end. A Lot.

Keith never really chooses Watts. Amanda Jones *tells* him that he likes Watts, and Keith is like, "Oh...yeah...okay." I felt like Watts deserved way better than that. She should have been with Duncan...or realized her clearly lesbian self and dated some awesome punker chick.

When they get together at the end I just get livid.

Posted by: t6 at September 11, 2010 1:43 AM

Fuck a cow or lose your mother?

Cowfucker.

Posted by: grace b at September 11, 2010 7:13 PM

Ok so this is a film which probably never intended to win an Oscar, but if you take it for what it is then it really is a gem of a film. I agree that a lot of the plot seems to happen "just because" but thats life, I mean not every decidion you make is based on analytical reason. The whole point is to use your imagination and get inside the charcters heads,a film shouldnt have to hold you by the hand and tell you that A does this because of that and B does this because of the other. I think the reasons for Keith liking Amanda are made quite clear in the film. As for Watts, well maybe she always liked Keith, but she only realised the extent of it when she felt threatened by his attention on Amanda. Sometimes we even surprise ourselves with our own feelings when certain situations arise. I just dont think it should be over analysed! As for MSM, for me she made the movie! I loved the character of Watts, thought she was brilliant and MSM conveyed the emotion of her so well, showed her vulnerability underneath the tomboy exterior. Oh how I felt her pain!Duncan is fab too. Keith was a bit wooden for me, but somehow still effective. All in all I love the movie, the music, the cheesy but romantic theme. It's a classic for me, so what if its got a happy ending, enjoy it!!

Posted by: Jen at September 15, 2010 9:02 PM

Having recently just seen this movie for the first time too, I have to largely agree... though I still enjoyed it. Honestly it boils down to having Mary Stuart Masterson with that hair and that attitude and that drumming. There is no way for the film to truly fail for me with all of that. Plus I think her long standing crush on her best friend was pretty well established from the get go so she was the easiest to understand and root for (rather than trying to puzzle out Keith's motivations from scene to scene).

Though I have a bone to pick with the statement "It’s clear based on the outcomes in each movie that Hughes was writing these stories for women: In both movies, the underdog female wins. In Pretty in Pink, she ends up with the hunk; in Some Kind of Wonderful, he picks the pretty tomboy." It's not that I don't think women are his target audience but I have never actually met a women that didn't prefer Duckie in Pretty in Pink. Who cares about the "hunk" when he's as bland and clueless as Blane? Women, no wait, people are drawn to the characters with a little more interest.

And, yes, more Elias Koteas please!

Posted by: Becky at January 11, 2011 1:18 AM


















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