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Antichrist / Brian Prisco

Film Reviews | October 29, 2009 | Comments (59)


There’s a message buried beneath the decayed narrative of all of Lars von Trier’s films, but I’m not so sure I want to find it. Even if I did, I’m not sure I would know what the fuck I was looking at. Though chaotic, fragmented, and pretty goddamn demented, to dismiss von Trier’s work as mere torture porn would be disingenuous and immature. Antichrist is a difficult piece from a difficult director: a messy and lunatic study of grief coupled around graphic and disturbing sexuality. From the first poetically gorgeous and unnerving frames, you can tell what you are experiencing is nothing less than a work of art. But it’s an ugly and unpleasant film. Von Trier doesn’t push the envelope; he burns down the entire fucking post office, but for what cause, I couldn’t begin to fathom. A graduate studies candidate’s wet dream, Antichrist is resplendent with so many layers and motifs they could spend decades rooting around in the mulchy, fetid mess. It’s sloppy and fucked-up, both thematically and narratively, and it will affect you on a gut level unlike any other film you may ever see. It’s a morbidly demented vision that seems to revel in scarring you just because it’s holding something jagged.

In gray tones, a couple frantically mount one another — bottles tumbling, sweaty faces contorted — as their infant son climbs up to an open window and topples to his death. It’s beautifully horrific and painfully artistic, done in slow motion intercutting, graphic and yet understated. It’s haunting yet entrancing. Had the rest of the film not descended into what amounted to an emotionally-abusive kumate, fistfucked with scenes of such sexual depravity that Mapplethorpe just got necrophiliac’s remorse. It could have been an artistic masterpiece. Instead, we watch two stunningly talented actors — Willem Dafoe and Charlotte Gainsbourg — stumble and unravel through von Trier’s masturbatory phantasmagoria. It’s a disturbing psycho-sexual duel culminating in such hideous violence that Eli Roth would drop his glove and run home screaming to his mother.

Many critics have panned the film as mere highbrow torture porn, which is not just thoughtless but flat out, shamefully wrong. Pornography, at any level, is meant to be erotic and stimulating. There’s plenty of sex in the film: sweaty, nasty, explicit sex. But I can’t imagine how unbalanced an individual you’d have to be to be turned on by it. The characters rut like desperate, frenzied animals, always steeped in pain or savagery. Begging, sobbing, grunting, seething — but not something as pedantic as rape. It’s just as vicious and cruel as rape, but it’s done out of a misguided sense of healing, which somehow makes it worse. When violence explodes like a festering boil suppurating, it’s messy and gruesome and graphic, adding yet another splattering layer to the curdling of any hope of eroticism. If anything, von Trier is making a treatise against sexuality. He’s torturing the audience by forcing us to watch these two characters mutilate each other — and themselves.

There is a bit of an elephant in the boat that I would be remiss to not address in this review, but it would assuredly be considered a spoiler. So if you plan on seeing this film — out of morbid curiosity, toppling Alice-like down the outhouse hole, no doubt — you may want to skip the next two paragraphs. (Or all of them.) However, even knowing what’s going to happen won’t prepare you. The choice is yours.

When taken in the context of all of von Trier’s cannon, Antichrist is a brilliant strategic gambit against all of those detractors who swath him with accusations of misogyny. Gainsbourg’s “She” is a women’s studies student to Dafoe’s “He,” a psychiatrist. Again, I’m extremely baffled as I attempt to puzzle this out, but from what I gathered, She determines through her studies of the witch trials that all women are essentially flawed and deserved to be punished because it is in their nature to be evil. Now, on the base level, to make a statement like that would seem pretty boldly misogynist. However, we can’t forget that her character is clearly a disturbed individual who just underwent a pretty severe trauma — so it’s the mental state of a deluded person. It’s delicious that von Trier put forth a women’s studies major determined that women are evil from studying women too intensely. Also, throughout the film, Dafoe attempts to soothe his hysterical and insane wife with psychiatric exercises while the entire time he seems relatively calm and in control. Lest we forget, Dafoe is a pretty shitty psychiatrist who should never under any circumstance try to analyze his own wife. Also, he’s simultaneously suffering his own breakdown — unless everyone sees visions of a fox tearing its own entrails while whispering “Chaos Reigns.”

At the end of the film, She has a Annie Wilkes moment, smashing her husband with a log and then bludgeoning his erect penis with the same blunt force trauma. She then takes hold of his cock and jerks him off until he ejaculates blood. She cripples him in a manner that would make the Saw writers quit, and then, lying next to him in a fit of madness, masturbates furiously. Then she takes a pair of rusty scissors, and in grotesque close-up, snips off her clitoris. At this point, there is no point to make. Whether you choose to view this as an act of female empowerment — that she controls and thus chooses to destroy all sexuality that she finds evil — or as an act of misogyny, you look like a fumbling fanatic trying to decry your own cause. It’s just not that simple. Even a day after the fact, I can’t come to terms with why. And that’s the ultimate problem with the film.

Antichrist doesn’t have any answers. It’s not cinematic blueballs, so much as an artistic disconnect. It’s what makes the film so discordant. It’s such a foaming, self-conscious piece — complete with its own prepackaged pedestal — it’s virtually impossible to dismiss as torture porn. It’s complex enough to be art, but it doesn’t automatically mean you have to accept it as sacrosanct. If you choose to expose yourself to Antichrist, you’re going to walk away changed, whether you view it as shock-value dreck or morbid poesy. It’s a seriously disturbing visionary work that’s too thought out to be dismissed as a woman-hater working out his sexual issues with karo syrup and latex. Personally, I found the entire film distasteful and unpleasant. Dafoe plays it straight and kindhearted, which is all the more unnerving. He reminds me of how monsters would act if they were pretending to be human, like he’s wearing a people costume. And Charlotte Gainsbourg is mindblowing, a skittish animal that may bite you when you turn your back. Von Trier created something deep and personal and savage, but I just wish I knew exactly what the hell it was. I wish it were something that I could easily dismiss as mere shock for shock’s sake, but there’s too much depth to be boobie-cutting boy games. Actually, I wish I never watched this damned mess at all.


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Comments

Can we STOP posting so much man-ass on this bitch?

Can we?

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at October 29, 2009 3:13 PM

Seriously. We are in serious need of some Odette Yustmann to cleanse our ass palates.

Also, thanks for going into nitty-gritty details of what other reviews simply referred to as "vivid scenes of genital mutilation". THAT WAS AWESOME!!!

Posted by: Forbiddendonut at October 29, 2009 3:23 PM

In a word Slim?

No.

In other news, good review of a film I'll never watch. I liked some of his earlier work, but this doesn't sound like my cup o' tea, necessarily.

Posted by: Smokin at October 29, 2009 3:26 PM

I tried to Wikipedia this movie, passed out and somehow woke up with a claw hammer up my ass, boning an effigy of Miley Cyrus made out of J. Crew sweaters, clothespins and drill bits.

THIS MOVIE IS THE DEVIL BEELZEBUB LASKDJFALK!!

Posted by: D-Day at October 29, 2009 3:29 PM

And I agree as well, this was a pretty good review.

Posted by: D-Day at October 29, 2009 3:39 PM

Good lord....3 days of mindless meetings, and I come to back to THIS???? Jumping Jeezus Jehosaphat!!!!

I have NO desire to see Willem Defoe rutting like deer or see his peen smashed with a log. I REALLY don't want to see Charlotte Gainsbourg snip off her happy spot.

Oh, god, really...I have to go bleach my brain now

Posted by: dammitjanet at October 29, 2009 3:43 PM

Something tells me you've created a monster when some of the tamer scenes from your movie make Saw look like the goddamned Wizard of Oz.

Posted by: Oracle at October 29, 2009 3:44 PM

"There’s plenty of sex in the film: sweaty, nasty, explicit sex. But I can’t imagine how unbalanced an individual you’d have to be to be turned on by it. The characters rut like desperate, frenzied animals, always steeped in pain or savagery..."


Hmmmmmmmmmm,

When did you say does this movie comes out?

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at October 29, 2009 3:46 PM

Everyone I've heard talk about this movie hits a wall in trying to explain what it's about beyond the basic plot. Part of me thinks that's Von Trier's point, but part of me does think that this thing got out of his control.

That alone tells me this isn't torture porn, but if you need further proof, just remember this: the point of movies like Saw and Hostel is the kills and their brutality. People are going to see Saw to see the traps Jigsaw has come up with. I can't imagine anyone's going to see this movie for the kills -- specially since there aren't any but two.

As for that ending, I'll foolishly step in and offer this thought: She mutilates herself and He as punishment for having lost their child -- which caused all their depression and pain. It's punishment in a Biblical manner ("if your eye cause you stray, put it out").

I'm probably way off base, but that's the point. Saw VI will never generate discussion as to what it is saying. Even as a mess, Antichrist is art.

Posted by: Fredo at October 29, 2009 3:46 PM

I like Von Trier movies for the most part, but thanks for letting me know I can miss this one and feel like I made a good decision about it. Sometimes in life, it's better just to know the post office blew up, without actually having to experience it.

Posted by: Mrs Smith at October 29, 2009 3:52 PM

This shit is too much for me. I didn't even read those spoiler paragraphs because I Do Not Want to Know Anything About Genital Mutilation.
I get way too affected by good movies. I like my peen and I don't want anyone to abuse it but me.

Posted by: Optimus Rhyme at October 29, 2009 3:52 PM

Of course I eagerly await the opportunity to see any new von Trier film not featuring actual abuse to animals (oh Manderlay, I just can't watch you, please try to understand).

The important thing to remember about Antichrist is that von Trier did not set out to make a film that makes any sense. He's a well read man and clearly knows the imagery he wants to inject in Antichrist; however, the film was made as an attempt to really get out of a dark place in his life and exorcise some demons in his mind. He found the process therapeutic and himself isn't even sure what to make of the end result. He referred to it at Cannes, I believe, as a new kind of horror film. I suppose it's probably a more perverse branch off of Lynch's meditations and Cronenberg's vaginal horror: beautiful and painful to watch, like a violently sexual nightmare, but ultimate throwing so much at you that you can't even remember what you were afraid of by the end.

I can't wait.

Posted by: Robert at October 29, 2009 3:53 PM

She mutilates herself and He as punishment for having lost their child -- which caused all their depression and pain. It's punishment in a Biblical manner ("if your eye cause you stray, put it out").
I think that's a pretty good way of looking at it, Fredo, and a way that makes the most sense. By that rationale, the masturbation that goes along with the mutilation is a double whammy, as it was the action and pleasure associated with the parts that She feels is responsible.

That being said, it's an interesting premise but I know that I won't be able to handle the visuals. In this case, I'm grateful for the spoilers so I don't have to go through the experience of publicly horking in a theater. Great review, intriguing, but so NOT my cup of tea.

Posted by: myysharona (formerly Sharon) at October 29, 2009 3:56 PM

Nicely written, Prisco.

However, the sixth paragraph pretty much cemented the fact that there's no way in hell I'd ever watch this. Ever. No thanks. Nope.

Posted by: Skitz at October 29, 2009 4:01 PM

Your review more than adequately conveys the disturbing nature of the film, and I would probably be in the bleached brain camp with
dammitjanet, were it not for your title to this review.

Weird Al lyrics always make me feel better, and a good polka can cheer up anyone, so for that you have my gratitude.

[I know these come from one of his polkas, which mean they're actual lyrics someone else used once, but in recent years I've found it easier to recognize Weird Al tunes than try to keep up with the songs he's spoofing]

Posted by: Gentleman Farmer at October 29, 2009 4:01 PM

"Von Trier doesn’t push the envelope; he burns down the entire fucking post office"

Brilliant!

Posted by: Brian at October 29, 2009 4:10 PM

Gentleman Farmer, the lyrics are from a Bloodhound Gang song called Bad Touch. If Weird Al did a version, I need to know.

Also, I cannot even acknowledge this movie in my brain. Good review, though.

Posted by: Anne (in Reno) at October 29, 2009 4:19 PM

I think In the Realm of the Senses and Teeth are my quota for penis mutilation. Thanks you.

Posted by: John W at October 29, 2009 4:24 PM

I never thought this guy could possibly make a film worse than "Breaking The Waves" but it appears that he's definitely trying. Who gives this loser their money to waste? Anyhoo, I think I'd rather watch an old man take a dump on a kitten than see this movie.

Posted by: Tony at October 29, 2009 4:33 PM

Gentleman Farmer: Although they could have used the lyrics to Weird Al's "You Don't Love Me Anymore"

"You slammed my face down in the bar-b-que grill
Now my scars are all healing
But my heart never will"

Poet.

By that rationale, the masturbation that goes along with the mutilation is a double whammy, as it was the action and pleasure associated with the parts that She feels is responsible.

That's what I'm thinking. That said, I'd be afraid to go further than that just because von Trier's movies (like Lynch's or Cronenberg's) tend to act like funhouse mirrors; reflecting back what we want to see.

Posted by: Fredo at October 29, 2009 4:37 PM

Oh, great. Like pretentious film studies majors didn't have enough fuel, we'll be hearing about this one for ages. And I never, ever want to watch it. Outstanding review, though. You have a way with words, Prisco.

Oh god I shouldn't have read the spoiler paragraph. Now I'm all queasy. I completely lost my appetite.

Posted by: figgy at October 29, 2009 4:51 PM

Fredo,

Good insight... von Trier may have got the whole plot from that song:

"You drilled a hole in my [leg]
Then you dumped me in a drainage ditch and left me for dead"

Makes me wonder if perhaps von Trier draws inspiration for all his movies from Weird Al --
Dancer in the Dark = She never told me she was a mime?
Breaking the waves = You make me?

Posted by: Gentleman Farmer at October 29, 2009 5:06 PM

There seems to always be a love/hate relationship (or rather OMG/WTF) with Von Trier films.

As much as I find myself uncomfortable or downright disgusted with what he challenges his viewers, I also find disturbing beauty boiling under the surface. Dancer in the Dark and Breaking the Waves are movies that I still watch and find new aspects to appreciate...

I just don't know if I have it in me to make it through Antichrist...That aside, this was an excellent review!

Posted by: Wren at October 29, 2009 5:32 PM

Regardless of the gratuity, the ugliness and the ultra sex/violence, I am only the more curious to see this film. If it's as mind boggling as you say it is, Prisco, then I will definitely have to give it a shot. Von Trier is a demented genius in some aspect, and I have to give him credit for not bending and compromising to a safe and P.C society...by castrating Willem Defoe.

Posted by: Kamikaze Feminist at October 29, 2009 5:35 PM

LvT has the best gimmick going: even when he makes a sloppy mess of exploitational garbage he and all of his fans can just claim up the whazoo that that was one of his intentions in the first place.

Posted by: Timmy at October 29, 2009 5:49 PM

You know my opinion...

This sounds fantastic!

Posted by: DeistBrawler at October 29, 2009 6:18 PM

Hey, guys, a recommendation if you want to see an easily digestible Von Trier movie: Watch The Boss of It All!
It's a COMEDY, and nothing gruesome in sight! Definitely worth a look.

Posted by: N. Wood at October 29, 2009 7:25 PM

Fuck, dude.

Posted by: coryo at October 29, 2009 8:24 PM

Antichrist reminds me of this bizarro low-budget B-movie horror vignette movie called "Cutting Moments." It was awful, and in the title vignette, the couple ends up similarly mutilated, by the woman's hand. Except in that one, the moral lesson (or whatever) is that the husband ignores the wife until she finally loses it and scrubs her lips off with a steel wool scrubby thing, then they get it on (because I know my first reaction if my husband-to-be came into the room with no lips would totally be "Excellent! Sexytime!") and she castrates him with some garden shears mid-sex and then de-clits herself. And then they presumably bleed to death.

I wonder if the, uh, "filmmaker" responsible for that will be coming out of the woodwork to claim plagiarism. S/he'd have a decent case, I suspect.

Posted by: Nat at October 29, 2009 9:52 PM

In gray tones, a couple frantically mount one another — bottles tumbling, sweaty faces contorted — as their infant son climbs up to an open window and topples to his death.

...aaaand thats the point at which I figured this isn't the one for me. I can deal with the rest, but dying kids is the one nightmare I don't want to contemplate.

Posted by: Squirrelgripper at October 29, 2009 9:52 PM

Great review Mr. Prisco, and thanks for doing our dirty work. I know I can't see this, but reading about it has been interesting.

Well said Robert. I'm not sure how much sense this film is supposed to make, rather it seems to have been a director's exorcism.

Posted by: Cindy at October 29, 2009 10:32 PM

I'm intruiged.. So how fucked up of a person does the fact that i really want to see it make me? On the other hand, I'm afraid of the sex incase i find it hot, after what you said.

Posted by: catlady at October 29, 2009 10:39 PM

Tony said: "Anyhoo, I think I'd rather watch an old man take a dump on a kitten than see this movie."

My favourite line of the thread. Now I can go to bed.

Posted by: Kelly Booth at October 29, 2009 11:21 PM

The movie is horrendous. It's a hour and ten minute snooze fest followed by twenty minutes of what I considered to be underwhelming mutilation (chalk it up to the desensitization indicative of our times). I'll disagree on a few points however, though actually contemplating this mess of crap made me want to clip off my own genitalia. I'm warning you now, this comment is long and obnoxious and a SPOILER.

"She" doesn't so much believe women are flawed; rather that women are evil. You allude to that later in your review, but it's essential to Moron von Trier's final message. Women as evil deserved punishment just as the original sin of Adam and Eve resulted in the flaw in their descendants and their punishment in the eyes of God. So, the violence against women as uncovered in "She"'s research is thus justified and is a result of women's antagonism of their male counterparts. As then follows"She" antagonizes "He" in preparation for violence upon her just as Jesus accepted his fate in biblical mythology; her "clipping" was in my opinion her crown of thorn moment, her cross to bear being the death of her son. Ultimately, she takes on the role of Christ, and ::SPOILER:: her death at the hands of "He" is her sacrifice for her gender. "She" ain't done, and since von Trier doesn't know what subtlety means, is resurrected in the form of hundreds of faceless women. In essence, in contrast to the death and resurrection of Christ releasing sin from the world, the death of the Antichrist released sin onto the earth, opening a pandoras box of sorts and re-empowering women as nature's weapon. Whether that is supposed to be empowering or misogynist is up to you to decide, but ultimately, as much as it seems otherwise by my overanalysis of this tripe, I really don't give a ****.

"Antichrist" is at times boring, at times stupid, at times overdone, and completely devoid of effective use of symbols (they seemed tossed in as one would toss a salad, throw as much in as you can and hope it tastes good). The only thing it's not is good cinema. The mutilation didn't offend me; von Trier's pretentious attempt at cinematic masturbation did. Watching someone stroke his own ego like he does his own d*** isn't my idea of art. It's crap, total crap, and if you decide to waste your money watching this junk, don't say I didn't warn you.

Posted by: David at October 29, 2009 11:40 PM

That was fabulously well written. I think I already knew there wouldn't be anything in that [articular film for me...I know I can sit through it, because I've got hella nerve, but I agree your notion that we don't HAVE to see everything. You can't unsee it...

Posted by: replica at October 29, 2009 11:45 PM

*spoilers within - kinda*

Excellent review for a film I have seen and still don't know what I think about it - although the fact that I am still thinking about it surely grants it merit above and beyond all the vapid, flicker-before-your-eyes-then-poof cinematic dreck that we're generally subjected to. I was, by turns, enthralled, baffled, horrified and fascinated by this movie.

The performances by Dafoe and Gainsbourgh are absolutely arresting - total commitment to challenging material by talented performers. The cinematography is achingly beautiful at times - painterly compositions mixed with some artfully-deployed flourishes, like subtle warping of the backgrounds and extreme slo-mo shots. The phsyical violence in the movie is extremely disturbing, but more than that, there's an undercurrent of psychological violence to the film - most explicitly "He"'s therapy of "She". It's almost like in a time of extreme stress when "She" needs a lover and a comforter, "He" withdraws to the role of a dispassionate observer - while he may tell himself that this is to help her recover, subconsciously it is not to help her heal, but to punish her for her role in the death of their child whilst shielding himself from his complicity. "She"'s actions, rather than being the irrational fallout from a hysterical woman, could be read as a justified, though spur-of-the-moment reaction to the mental brow-beating "He" has subjected her to.

After all, "He" convinced her to go to Eden after she told him (after considerable coersion) that was the place she was most terrified of.

That's just my reading of the movie, of course - I just hope that others here will take a chance and see the movie to develop their own readings. Doubtless, some will be outraged, and some will decry the movie as exploitation, or as being depraved - their opinions are as valid as mine or any others. There's just something about Antichrist that makes me think that even if you end up despising both it and the people responsible, you should see it regardless. It's undoubtedly hard to stomach, but after seeeing it, impossible to dismiss.

Posted by: Dill The Devil at October 30, 2009 1:29 AM

Robert's comment just led to me Wiki-ing Manderlay.

Holy crap, von Trier killed a donkey! For "dramatic purposes"! That's unforgivable. Fuck von Trier.

Posted by: Daniel Hall at October 30, 2009 1:43 AM

I put Anti-Christ in my top 3 films of the year. I thought it was visually an incredible film and I don't subscribe to the view that it was on a par with films like Saw.
I don't enjoy watching films like Saw because the torture is, in my opinion, gratuitous. Ant-Christ was far more complex to even be spoken of in the same sentance.
I felt that he was trying to address the emotional and mental fall-out of a horific situation. Granted, it's definitely not the way most people would react but this is an extreme.
She is clearly disturbed and behaving in an unpredictable and dangerous way but I don't consider any of it to be unneccessary. Yes, they have a lot of violent sex, but people deal with loss in many different ways.
Anyway, my point is, that while Anti-Christ is a difficult movie to watch, it is a film I would recommend & anyone wanting to comment on the film really should see it first. Reading reviews of the brutal scenes does not do them the justice they deserve - they should be experienced in the context of the film & not read about.
As an aside, I am neither a film school student or graduate & many of my friends (from different walks of life) have seen this film and all I have spoken to, enjoyed it.
At the very least it is a film you will be talking about for a long time afterwards...

Posted by: missh at October 30, 2009 6:14 AM

Wow, thanks for the review. Morbid curiosity is now sated, and I know this is one I will not be watching. Art house flicks piled with symbolism and disconnected scenes give me a migraine.

Posted by: TylerDFC at October 30, 2009 6:17 AM

Am I the only gal here who has to restrain herself from clutching protectively at her crotch as she reads this review? YIKES. I imagine the guys are having a similar reaction to the line about the log-smashing. I like my movies a little dark and demented, but this sounds like too much even for me.

Posted by: DeadBessie at October 30, 2009 7:46 AM

One time, at band camp...I saw Ron Jeremy suck his own cock in a movie. That fucked me up royally so I can't imagine what witnessing this shit would do...

Posted by: East Coast Ugly at October 30, 2009 8:05 AM

East Coast Ugly...
I met Ron Jeremy once. I asked him if I could see his penis and he said "Yes, if I can see your tits".
It was a work function and my boss was RIGHT NEXT TO ME so I declined.
I regret that.

Posted by: missh at October 30, 2009 8:22 AM

Um...

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...sob.

Posted by: Mr. Tusks at October 30, 2009 8:23 AM

And another thing:

Dear Film Studies Majors, incomprehensibility =/= quality. The review of this movie makes it seem like von Trier's self-exorcism through cinematic masturbation, and that's all I need to know. Just because there are film-school touches doesn't mean it's less gratuitous than Saw. Personally, I will be bleaching my brain with the Clorox of Mean Girls. Almost too gay to function!

Posted by: Mr. Tusks at October 30, 2009 8:35 AM

Well, I guess I'll have to skip that one. Thanks for saving my ass with a blow by blow.

Posted by: crazyjaneski at October 30, 2009 10:00 AM

I think it's interesting that American audiences and critics are struggling with the film, whereas outside our country, the film is being received very differently. What about us - our spirituality, our sexuality, our concept of gender roles and relationships - proves so challenging when presented with "Antichrist?"

I have watched it twice, now. And it's so much more than a film about violent genital mutilation. It's also filled with beautiful images and amazing techniques while deeply disturbing on many levels. There's so much in it, I agree with the reviewer here; I'm not sure I even want to try to understand it - yet there is something about it that demands attention, long after the credits roll.

The performances are stunning. Charlotte Gainsbourg is so strongly committed to the role that never once are her actions - no matter how unpredictable or threatening - unbelievable. While his wife may be insane and possibly was for some time before the death of their son, Willem Dafoe's character is woefully inadequate as a partner, a father, and a husband - and his selfishness is perhaps just as disturbing as her madness. The reviewer writes, "Dafoe plays it straight and kindhearted, which is all the more unnerving. He reminds me of how monsters would act if they were pretending to be human, like he’s wearing a people costume" and that couldn't be more accurate. If anything or anyone is the "Antichrist" of the film, I have come to believe it's Dafoe's character and not Gainsbourg's. However the "Antichrist" of the film is more than a person or a series of actions; it's everything, from the first frame to the final act.

This film is not torture porn. It's not a horror film. It's a deeply disturbing view of a marriage that has probably been deteriorating for some time. It's also a harrowing imagining of loss, grief, shame, and self-loathing. It's confusing, and I love that it is. I love that it's ambiguous and muddled and although some feel it is, I don't think it's a mess at all. It's something very different evoking a visceral reaction, and isn't that what film should do?

Posted by: Rev. Brandy at October 30, 2009 10:19 AM

Rev. Brandy, how is the movie being received overseas? I could try to look it up for myself but I'm
on my iPhone until late tonight as I have no office. I'm not surprised that this film is being received differently in America and Europe. Americans still have a Puritan point of view when to comes to sex and gender rules - people tend to view things in black and white despite the fact that there is a lot of gray area.

I may or may not watch this film. Dancer in the Dark was far too depressing for me and following the death of two people that were close to me.......I don't think I can take this movie. For now, or forever, I don't really know, I think I will be appreciating from afar what LvT is trying to say.

Posted by: stardust savant at October 30, 2009 10:42 AM

I am marginally less bored by the subject now than I was while watching the film itself.

Posted by: Flea at October 30, 2009 11:55 AM

My roommate summed up this movie perfectly: "avant-barf"

Posted by: Mandy at October 30, 2009 12:41 PM

Stardust Savant: I had found reviews and message boards online that I will attempt to copy here for you. While the reviews are interestingly noting it's a "von Trier hoax/joke," viewers' responses in the associated message boards are very interesting.

http://www.littlewhitelies.co.uk/reviews/antichrist/

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/movie/129974/antichrist

I actually can't easily locate some of the others I had read, but when I do, I will post.

Posted by: Rev. Brandy at October 30, 2009 2:26 PM

That's art for you.

Posted by: Maryscott O'Connor at October 30, 2009 3:02 PM

I guess I got to this party long after the guests have all made out, puked, and left, but I thought I'd throw in my recession-adjusted two cents (aka mental pocket lint).

I have to say I really agree with Fredo's assessments of the final moments of the film as a Biblical-style punishment for the death of their son. However, I take it a step further and wonder whether this film is like seeing through the eyes of a fundamentalist: sexual pleasure is so corrupting and damaging that it leads to the total destruction of anyone who indulges in it too deeply.

Also the wanna-be English major in me yearned for a helmet or a bunker as "Juxtaposition of Sex and Death" anvils were dropped on my head throughout the reviews. I only read the review and the Wikipedia page because I highly value the few times of day I do smile. And masturbate.

Posted by: Cat at October 30, 2009 3:40 PM

Here, DeadBessie, I'll hold that for you.

Posted by: , (the commenter formerly known as bucdaddy), at October 30, 2009 7:17 PM

I think I made the mistake of reading too much about this movie before seeing it. So much so that the only thing I was left thinking is that Willem Dafoe is a bit of a butterface.

I do have to agree with David's review in the comments. All in all, I sum the movie up as artsy fartsy porn sprinkled with violence and good acting.

Posted by: maria at October 30, 2009 8:14 PM

"Von Trier doesn’t push the envelope; he burns down the entire fucking post office, but for what cause, I couldn’t begin to fathom."

Maybe he did it just for the sake of it?

Posted by: Arthur Dent at October 31, 2009 10:48 PM

This sounds like Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? except the kid was real at one point in time. It also sounds like one of those movies that film majors "get" while the rest of the plebs are left to suffer in their ignorance.

Posted by: duckandcover at November 2, 2009 2:54 PM

Canon, not cannon.

And I have no intention of ever watching this thing, no matter how artistically significant it might be.

Posted by: jvon at November 2, 2009 11:44 PM

After seeing this movie almost a week ago, I still have no clue what I think of it. Your review, though, is so unbelievably accurate; you manage to do justice to the bizarre experience of watching this film. I would have melted into a puddle of confused goo if asked to review this. Seriously well-done, Mr. Prisco.

Posted by: onetime at November 8, 2009 2:13 PM

I saw this film opening night at the Toronto international film festival and I must say I was shocked to say the least. This doesn't mean that I found the film distasteful and regret seeing it, on the contrary I found the film to be an experience one that is far more important to go through than any Saw or Hostel or Teeth and yet these films garner viewers and not Antichrist?
Honestly, I found all three of the above mentioned films to be far worse than Antichrist because Antichrist is trying to say something as art. People made very similar comments about the film "Salo: 120 Days in Sodom" over 30 years ago and now it's recognized as a masterwork of cinema.
My point is... Shouldn't we support a film like this rather than tear it apart for others and if we still have no intention of viewing the film shouldn't we leave the opinions to those who have actually seen the movie?

Posted by: Donald McQuade at November 9, 2009 8:22 PM





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