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Do Movie Geeks Really Hate Gwyneth Paltrow?

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I don’t know if she deserved an Oscar (I’d have given it to Fernanda Montenegro or Emily Watson that year), but Gwyneth Paltrow is not a bad actress. Nor is she an ugly one. And though she doesn’t bring a whole lot to the Iron Man franchise, she’s not as corrosive to the films as, say, Maggie Gyllenhaal, Katie Holmes, Kate Bosworth, Bryce Dallas Howard or Kirsten Dunst were to their respective superhero movies (and that’s not counting the female superheroes played by Halle Berry, Jennifer Garner, Anna Paquin and Helen Slater).

So I don’t get it, why would anyone want to see her punched in the face? The question is in response to an Onion video (embedded below) about an internet rumor (alleged to have actually begun at a certain site I won’t mention since you guys hate it) about a scene in Iron Man 2 in which Pepper Pots gets roughed up and the many Iron Man fans who eagerly anticipate seeing such.

Obviously it’s a joke, because it’s the Onion, but I guess there must indeed be some real people — bloggers and fans alike — who actually would like to see the actress punched, beaten, strangled or otherwise have violence inflicted upon her, at least in a fictional, make-up-not-blood setting. Surprisingly, none of the women in film blogs I follow seem to be commenting on this, even though it surely would relate to the whole Kick-Ass debate.

Here are some blogs that do comment, whether sarcastically, confusedly or honestly:

  • Vince Mancini at Film Drunk:
    The latest from Onion News — rumor that Gwyneth Paltrow gets punched in Iron Man 2 takes anticipation for the movie to a whole new level. Hey, you can’t go wrong with wishful thinking about Gwyneth Paltrow getting punched.
  • Mark at I Watch Stuff:
    Personally, I’d want it to be Iron Man giving her an accidental backhand when he’s turning to gesture where Whiplash is or something, and as he gets down to console her we get to see his face inside his helmet and it’s obvious he’s barely suppressing his joy.
  • Eric Larnick at Moviefone’s Inside Movies:
    Fake fans speculate on how she might get punched in the face, who might punch her in the face and how hard that punch in the face might be.

    A little bit cruel? Possibly. Incredibly hilarious? Absolutely.

  • S.T. VanAirsdale at Movieline (in response to the confusing real-life-meets-Onion-parody confusion):

    If Paramount and Marvel didn’t single-handedly engineer this publicity grab themselves, they really should have. Or at least take some credit; this is really 100 times more thought-provoking than anything Paltrow can say in a Harper’s Bazaar cover story.



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Comments

Just all wrong for the role IMO. All that was required was some spunk and a little sex appeal.
She has neither.

Posted by: logan at April 20, 2010 8:09 PM

I have no problem with Pepper Potts or Paltrow's portrayal of her (or much of her acting at all). However...Paltrow as a person? Is kind of sucky. Read her blog, "Goop" where she tells "normal everyday people" how they can be as wonderful as she is. It is actually only mildly insane, but mostly incredibly self-absorbed (as most celebrities are, I know) and very condescending.I especially like the Christmas installations where she tells readers what "affordable" presents she buys for her friends, I don't think a single one of them clocked in at less than $250...She just seems to have no concept of reality.

Punched in the face? No, she's really not the worst one out there. Kicked in the vagina? Maybe...

Posted by: couch and pants at April 20, 2010 8:28 PM

Hey, hey, HEY!

Why the Bryce Dallas Howard hate?

That came from so far out in left field, I have to go watch The Village again.

Posted by: Poultice at April 20, 2010 8:34 PM

I don't think anyone should punch anyone.

Except maybe boxers.

Posted by: DarthCorleone at April 20, 2010 8:52 PM

You forgot to list Jessica Alba. They should take back her SAG card.

Posted by: D-Day at April 20, 2010 8:55 PM

That fake GOOP entry was brilliant.

Posted by: snapnhiss at April 20, 2010 8:59 PM

To answer your question: yes.

Posted by: admin at April 20, 2010 9:03 PM

The Pepper Potts casting is pretty good and easily defendable.

Paltrow is an actress with a pedigree (from Awards, shut up it's an objective opinion). She also comes with a small but key fan base/demographic, and is more equipped to combat the character Tony Stark.

If Marvel went young and all body/no talent, there would have been a bigger gap between RDJ and Pepper that could create a weird old guy-young 20's relationship. And the people who did the casting certainly felt that Paltrow could stand toe-to-toe with RDJ as opposed to getting nailed (again) by shitting casting like Jessica Alba.

I'm not a big fan of Gwyneth unless her head is inside a mysterious package in the 11th hour of the movie, but its tough to step back and be really critical of her casting.

Posted by: D-Day at April 20, 2010 9:15 PM

I have never really understood why the film world seems to hate Gwyneth. I don't think she's anywhere near as hate-worthy as a lot of the actresses/actors wandering across the screens of our local cinemas. I thought her performance in Proof was excellent, and I really didn't mind her at all in Iron Man. She's certainly less obnoxious then, say... Kirsten Dunst in the Spiderman movies, or Katie Holmes in Batman Begins (shudder).

Posted by: sheshakes at April 20, 2010 9:25 PM

it's a joke. they do absurd jokes all the time.

Posted by: lelnguye at April 20, 2010 9:28 PM

It's nothing to do with her acting (I've always liked Sliding Doors), but like people said: it's all about her opening her mouth outside her movies (ala Tom Cruise). It's stories like this: http://idontlikeyouinthatway.com/2009/07/please-move-to-spain.html that do make me want to kinda punch her in the face. It doesn't seem like she's a bad person, just a bit stuck up. Growing up in a town filled with her, sometimes they don't know what they're talking about until someone smacks some smarts into her.

Doesn't mean I'll boycott her movies since she's not telling people not to take their meds. I'm excited for Iron Man 2.

Posted by: mtgcolorpie at April 20, 2010 9:33 PM

Are you honestly unaware, Mr. Campbell, of the general netterweb consensus that Gwyneth is a monstrously superior, self-absorbed cow? Because there is one, owing mostly to the fact that she is one. I really like Gwyneth as Pepper; I really like her as an actress in many parts she's played, as a matter of fact. But Gwyneth Paltrow the actual person? Ew, gross. She's VILE. Although she is physically very lovely, and looks especially like her mother in that header pic. I just don't like it when she makes words happen from inside her own brain. Sssshhhh puppet, and don't talk unless someone decent hands you a script.

Posted by: Sarina at April 20, 2010 9:40 PM

I sure as hell don't know her personally, but since when does that come into consideration with celeb-bashing? In the media, in interviews, and even on her own damn website she comes across as insufferably snotty.

That is all.

Posted by: MB at April 20, 2010 10:06 PM

It's all GOOP backlash.

I love her and everyone else in Proof.

Posted by: ChristianH at April 20, 2010 10:22 PM

Yeah, this is dumb. Gwyneth Paltrow is ridiculously gorgeous, & didn't sully Iron Man in the least. Haters wanna hate!

Posted by: the new transported man at April 20, 2010 10:31 PM

I've got nothing against her. Period. I thought she was awesome in The Royal Tennenbaums, and she was just fucking fine in Fight Club. I could give two squirts about her GOOP whatchamafuckingthehell, but as far as movies go? Doesn't bother me a bit...

Plus, I've masturmabated my diddle to View From The Top like, five hundred times...

Posted by: Skitz at April 20, 2010 10:34 PM

In fact, I'm flopping my noodle to it right now...

Posted by: Skitz at April 20, 2010 10:36 PM

Both hands, even...

Posted by: Skitz at April 20, 2010 10:37 PM

Female film blogger here, reporting in:

Can't say I think of GP one way or another. She's just another pointless red-carpeter taking away roles from real actors. But that's 99% of Hollywood, in my mind.

No love, no hate. Blank white indifference.

Posted by: Ranylt at April 20, 2010 10:42 PM

"Plus, I've masturmabated my diddle to View From The Top like, five hundred times..."

Posted by: Skitz at April 20, 2010 10:34 PM

Because of Mike Myers' lazy eye, right?

...me too, Skittles. Me too.

Posted by: Sarina at April 20, 2010 10:42 PM

Fight Club?

Posted by: coveredinbees at April 20, 2010 10:43 PM

"Fight Club?"

Posted by: coveredinbees at April 20, 2010 10:43 PM

I think he might mean Se7en. Either that, or he somehow thinks Paltrow and Helena Bonham-Carter look exactly the same, which...

Look, just don't tell him. It'll interrupt his happy fun special alone time with Mike Myers' lazy eye, and that NEVER ends well.

Posted by: Sarina at April 20, 2010 10:46 PM

Paltrow's Pepper Pots portrayal portends peoples'perceptions of Paltrow's persnickety personality perfectly.

Posted by: Cindy at April 20, 2010 11:48 PM

You see, coveredinbees, about six months ago, I sneezed while eating one of them dried wasabi peas and its managed to work itself through my sinuses and get lodged in my brain, fucking up the significant chunk that helps me think my thoughts.

That's why I get movies mixed up nowadays. I can smell colors, too!

Posted by: Skitz at April 21, 2010 12:00 AM

putting aside her GOOP and supposedly intolerable personality,I remember being thoroughly annoyed by her character in The Royal Tenenbaums,how incredibly forced it was:the eye make up,sulking,is this supposed to be cool/likeable/positive in any way?And she went on to play more or less the same character in Running with Scissors,I'm not sure which came first or if she's played the same version of that horrible character in another film,but she I basically found her wholly unpalatable after those two piece of sh*ts.

Posted by: evan at April 21, 2010 1:50 AM

Dear Skitz, I had no idea about your wasabi-related accident. My deepest and most abject apologies. Hopefully the time you have spent with Mike Meyers' wonky eyeball has helped the healing process.

And evan, while I agree Running With Scissors was, basically, a sh*t show, I LOVED Gwyneth in Tennenbaums. Every performance in that film is mannered, I think that's sort of the point of it, actually. It either vibes with people or it doesn't. I've never met someone who was indifferent to/impartial about that movie.

And yeah, as a person, she is a heinous smug-faced condescending too-rich-for-her-own-good prat. But that's really not the point, right?

Posted by: coveredinbees at April 21, 2010 3:37 AM

Kickass alliteration Cindy! My go-to alliteration for some reason is: Super supreme sausage sizzle.

Posted by: Mit_Huffman at April 21, 2010 5:37 AM

I could careless about her personal agenda. She IS unattractive, and she is a BLAND actress at best.

Posted by: Leaf at April 21, 2010 8:13 AM

She grew up rich with a famous family, then became rich and famous in her own right. She is a deluded narcissist, no different than most people who've been rich and famous for decades. She truly believes she knows what's best for everyone else and wants to share her valuable insights on GOOP. However, no one likes a showoff, hence all the hatred. For example, she advises a two week liquid diet cleansing of your body while vacationing in the south of France, and really thinks everyone can afford this. It's quite hilarious.

Posted by: Kballs at April 21, 2010 8:21 AM

I like Paltrow fine as a performer. As a person she seems to be an enormous twat. But I think 99% of all actors are likely enormous twats. I majored in theater for a while and just about every actor I've ever met was a pretentious fuckhead so I can only imagine how self absorbed they can get when someone is blowing smoke up their ass 24/7 about how great they are.

I didn't realize Gyllenhaal was considered miscast in The Dark Knight. I thought she did a great job and seemed more like a normal person than the women cast in the past like Basinger and Kidman.

Posted by: TylerDFC at April 21, 2010 8:44 AM

I'm not wild about Paltrow; I think she's a decent actress, but there's just something about her that rubs me (and apparently a lot of people) the wrong way. And I don't care one way or the other about her presence in the Iron Man movies. Pepper Potts is not an interesting or important enough character for the casting to even matter.

But a bunch of male bloggers talking about how much they want to see her on the receiving end of violence is taking things a bit too far.

Posted by: Todd at April 21, 2010 10:45 AM

I, too, am a little disturbed at glee toward anybody getting punched in the face. That being said, if that many people concur that seeing Paltrow get the shit slapped out of her, there must be something to it. You don't see bloggers saying that about, say, Drew Barrymore or Mark Ruffalo. Something about Paltrow makes people want to slap her.

"Gwyneth Paltrow is ridiculously gorgeous"

I will give her pretty and I will give her willowy. Not gonna give her "ridiculously gorgeous", though. Sorry.

Posted by: samantha t at April 21, 2010 10:55 AM

I don't think Paltrow is a good actress at all. I think she's good at being pale and looking like she's going to cry. If a role calls for someone with those qualities, she's adequate. I don't have any feelings about her personally because I've never met her and frankly I don't care, but I avoid movies she's in because she's a film-ruiner for me.
There's something about her that strikes me as passive-aggressive and simpering.

Posted by: king at April 21, 2010 10:56 AM

How much fun would Amy Adams have been as Pepper Pots? Or Rachel McAdams?

Posted by: Jenn at April 21, 2010 10:56 AM

You don't see bloggers saying that about, say, Drew Barrymore or Mark Ruffalo.

More disturbing still, we don't see them saying it about the truly heinous: Charlie Sheen, Steven Seagal. It's fucked up backwards, if you ask me. And kind of telling.

Posted by: Ranylt at April 21, 2010 11:07 AM

I don't give a shit if she's annoying or self-absorbed -- or, hey, try this one on for size, JUST COMES OFF THAT WAY -- all this bullshit about punching her in the face???

What a fucking misogynistic crock. And thank you, Ranylt, for pointing out that we don't see huge swaths of the internet dedicated to "comic" fantasies about doing violence to the grotesquely assholish fuckwads out there on the male end of the Hollywood spectrum --- no, somehow it's always the females who end up with their faces getting smashed in.

PRETTY PICTURES.

No -- I mean pictures of the asswads doing the fantasizing. Accurate to a fault of just what kind of fucking scum they really are.

Posted by: Maryscott O'Connor at April 21, 2010 11:17 AM

Don't have a problem with her, don't love her. She certainly doesn't "ruin" the Iron Man movie. It's fucking Iron Man, not Shakespeare.

Comic book geeks really need to get hold of themselves. Just because Hollywood will now throw millions of dollars at anything that even vaguely resembles a comic book character doesn't make those stories sacred or even good. Most of them are really very predictable and often silly. "Iron Man," while a very enjoyable movie, strains credibility in at least as many ways as "Armageddon" did. So take a goddam chill pill and get a life. If you wish to do bodily harm to Gwyneth Paltrow because you think she's not good enough to appear in a movie titled "Iron Man," you've failed at life.

Having said all that, lots of women don't care for Paltrow because they think she's a stuck-up bitch. That Goop site of hers does not help one bit. It doesn't bother me, but it is ridiculous for a famous actress to dole out "how to live your life better" advice to the rest of us mere mortals. It's like one of those laughable "how does the rich famous woman have a career and family at the same time" articles in women's magazines, only it's every month, written about the same rich famous woman, BY the rich famous woman. Money makes lots of things easier. She could save herself a lot of time and effort if she'd just have that on the home page and nothing else.

Posted by: Slash at April 21, 2010 11:55 AM

Ranylt, Maryscott O'Connor, WORD. Can't improve on your comments.

I know a lot of professional actors, and self-absorption is practically a job skill. Is it annoying? Hell yes, which is why I don't hang out with most of them, but: castigating a Hollywood star for a combination of self-absorption and lack of self-awareness is kind of like mocking Jamie Dimon for not knowing the price of a loaf of bread. Reprehensible for an average human but fully a product of an industry that operates on warped values.

It is a RARE actor who can accurately assess and use the personal qualities that make them a good OR bankable actor, combined with the necessary thick skin for survival, without becoming an asshole. Focus on yourself + don't care what other people think about you = a formula that can go so wrong in so many ways. Only a few actors can be both effective and self-effacing.

I don't read GOOP because I don't give a crap and my hate-cup is already full: I thought Gwyneth Paltrow was excellent in Emma and in the underrated Flesh and Bone, and I'm not interested in her take on how to live. It depresses me just a bit to think of how much time and energy people put into publicly despising her, while Ben Roethlisberger is apparently only getting a 4-6 game suspension.

Posted by: Salieri2 at April 21, 2010 12:25 PM

Both hands, even...

Posted by: Skitz at April 20, 2010 10:37 PM

OK, someone has to ask....

What ARE you typing with, then?

Posted by: Drake at April 21, 2010 12:31 PM

She's just another pointless red-carpeter

Ranylt, I'm confused, so you are saying that is or isn't her real hair color?

More disturbing still, we don't see them saying it about the truly heinous: Charlie Sheen, Steven Seagal. It's fucked up backwards, if you ask me. And kind of telling.

The difference is, no matter who scumy those two are, they aren't telling anyone else how to live their lives. Or at least if they are they aren't nearly as known for it. And there is a huge difference and wanting to see someone punched in a movie and wanting to see them punched in real life.

And Maryscott O'Connor this "What a fucking misogynistic crock. And thank you, Ranylt, for pointing out that we don't see huge swaths of the internet dedicated to "comic" fantasies about doing violence to the grotesquely assholish fuckwads out there on the male end of the Hollywood spectrum" is pure bullshit. You honestly don't think if the same sort of joke video had been made about Tom Cruise or Roman Polanski there wouldn't have been the same kind of reaction?

Posted by: EricD at April 21, 2010 1:15 PM

Cate Blanchett should have won the Oscar for Elizabeth. That was a tour de force role in a major film.

Has anyone else noticed that Gwyneth and Thandie Newton look a like? I saw Rock n' Rolla the other night and man does Thandie look like a bi-racial Gwyneth.

Posted by: bananapanda at April 21, 2010 1:57 PM

bananapanda I thought it was an absolute crime that Paltrow beat Blanchett that year. Ludicrous.

EricD, yes, that is exactly what I think. It would not be a viral fucking video if The Onion had created it about Roman fucking Polanski or Tom Cruise, and I think it's disingenuous of you to even suggest it.

Posted by: Maryscott O'Connor at April 21, 2010 3:12 PM

Blah. That’s horse shit. Paltrow is an insufferably smug, Hollywood twit and people like the idea of her taking one to the kisser. Of course there are misogynistic ass cracks out there who match what you are describing, but to attribute that to everyone who would like to see her silly grin slapped off in a movie is as dumb as saying everyone who disagrees with Obama is racist. It is nothing but painting everyone with your preconceived colors no matter the reality.

Posted by: EricD at April 21, 2010 4:17 PM

As an actress, Paltrow seems to be precisely as good as the material she's given to work with - no better, no worse. She's poor in Iron Man because Pepper Potts is a nothing part; she makes about as good a fist of it as anybody would. Her character in Se7en is a pallid, pretty cipher, and it seems to suit her.

On the other hand, it takes a special skill to be by some distance the worst thing in a film as poor as Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow, in which, with only Jude Law for competition, she's acted off the screen by Angelina Jolie (and by Bai Ling, for God's sake, who gets about two minutes' screen time and doesn't even have a speaking line). Jolie has charisma, and Paltrow can't even fake it.

She plays irritating and self-absorbed with real conviction, though. There is definitely something about the Paltrow persona in real life that catches a lot of people on the raw: an ineffable smugness that you suspect nothing short of an actual slap could penetrate.

Physical violence solves nothing, of course. But widely shared fantasies don't come from nowhere, and generalised misogyny isn't a good enough explanation - this is an apparently spontaneous expression of a widely shared and very specific dislike of one person.

(And many people do feel exactly like this about Tom Cruise.)

Posted by: Paul Bowes at April 21, 2010 4:44 PM

EricD -

Would there be a joke video about Tom Cruise or Roman Polanski in the first place?

Anyway - I like Gwyneth. She's pretty and she's a good actress.

I just never understood why people give a shit about what celebrities have to say about anything beyond what they say about or within their films. Whether it's Gwyneth's GOOP, Angelina's vial of blood, Tom Cruise's couch jump... just... WHO CARES? or better yet - WHY CARE?

Posted by: kayla at April 21, 2010 7:35 PM

Also Eric D

Why would you compare disagreeing with Obama to wanting to punch Gwen in the face?

First of all we're talking about a president versus an actress.

Second, disagreeing with someone is not racist in the slightest. Wanting to beat a woman could be seen as mysogynistic. Not saying it automatically is, just wanted to point out the big difference.

Posted by: kayla at April 21, 2010 7:40 PM

just never understood why people give a shit about what celebrities have to say about anything beyond what they say about or within their films

Totally agree with that. And even then only when talking about their craft and not when they talk about the subject matter

Why would you compare disagreeing with Obama to wanting to punch Gwen in the face?

I was making the point that they are both examples of deciding what other people's motives are with absolutely no basis other then the accusers own prejudices. Maryscott with her accusation that everyone who would like to see Paltrow slapped in a movie is a woman hater and the liberal rant that everyone who opposes Obama is racist.

Posted by: EricD at April 21, 2010 8:55 PM

She's actually dead nuts on about her New York comment. Otherwise, I believe misogyny has anything to do w/ the Paltrow 'hate.' Hell, the onion did a bit a few years ago about people at a test screening of Gigli writing all the ways they wanted Affleck and J-lo to get killed on screen. Nothing to do w/ their sex, it's cuz they're both perceived as annoying H-wood doucebags. Same applies here, even if I may not totally agree w/ the assessment.

Posted by: stryker1121 at April 21, 2010 9:25 PM

Cate Blanchett should have won the Oscar for Elizabeth.

Exactly.

Posted by: Cindy at April 21, 2010 10:31 PM

Gwyneth is a decent actress, but she is no Cate Blanchett (who, as others have stated should've gone home with that Oscar for Elizabeth!!! Travesty!). Take the Talented Mr. Ripley for example, where Gwyneth was good but Cate stole the show even w/ the little amount of screentime she had. Her personality is also off-putting. Geesh, there really is a list a mile long running against her. I also agree with an above poster that I thought Maggie G. was great in Dark Knight, MUCH better than Kidman!!! I'll take her over a movie star celebrity like Nicole Kidman any day of the week!

Posted by: Sarah at April 22, 2010 6:58 AM

As much as I love the comic book movies you addressed above, I hardly think it's fair to call the actresses "corrosive" to those movies. Let's be frank: they were all mediocre-to-terribly written parts. They're there for the superhero to pine over and/or rescue, and not much more. To be honest, Gwyneth's Pepper Potts is perhaps my favorite superhero love interest so far out of all of them, with Kirstin Dunst's MJ coming in second.

I guess I just think it's easier to complain about the casting and transfer your feelings about an actress's body of work or personal life than to examine the pathetic writing for female characters in comic book movies (and in many cases, the comic books themselves). And this is coming from someone who loves the films and their source material; I just recognize that they could be better.

Posted by: bravesjade at April 22, 2010 10:34 AM

She's way ugly and can't act worth a damn. At least Scarlett Johansson, even though she has no talent in the acting department or the music (seriously did you hear a damn "song" from her tribute album to Tom Waits?), is pleasing to the eyes.

Death to Paltrow I've always said.

Posted by: Christian at April 22, 2010 1:39 PM