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Joss Whedon Could Take a Lesson from Brian Austin Green

By Seth Freilich | Posted Under TV Reviews | Comments (45)



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No bones about it, Fox’s Friday night SciFi shows are doomed. “Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles,” despite being a surprisingly good show, has ass ratings. And “Dollhouse,” despite coming from Joss Wheedon, is ass and also has ass ratings (although both shows did manage to come in third in their respective timeslot, which is better than fifth, I guess). Dustin has discussed, at length, his issues with “Dollhouse,” and I largely agree. But I wanted to briefly ramble because Friday’s airings of these shows starkly showed the difference between the two, and explain while I’ll be sad to see “Terminator” go but am OK with “Dollhouse” being sent to the Attic. (*Spoilers obviously abound, though not for anything that hasn’t aired yet*)

Both shows began with a strikingly similar problem, in that their lead characters and actresses were generally the least interesting. Lena Headey’s performance as the titular Sarah Connor has been generally bland, and the early storylines revolving around her character were equally meh. But as the show started to expand beyond her and John’s relationship, it also managed to find its legs. Friday’s episode was a perfect example of this — yes, Sarah she played an important role in it, as did her relationship with John. But they’ve built up such a strong world of characters and other plot threads that Headey and the Sarah character are no longer distractions or disappointments, just a weaker part of the show (in fact, my only major complaints about show, of late, come during the episodes that go back to spending too much time with Sarah).

“Dollhouse,” similarly, has yet to justify Eliza Dushku’s involvement. But where “Terminator” has opened the world up in a way that successfully takes the focus off of its weaker purported-core, the opening of the the world in “Dollhouse” only highlights Dushku’s weakness. And, again, Friday’s episode was a perfect example of this, solidifying the fact that I am much more interested in Sierra and Victor, than in Dushku’s Echo. Both of these actors have shown themselves far more capable (particularly Dichen Lachman, who plays Sierra) of portraying the chameleon-like aspect the roles require. So whenever we’d cut away from them back to Echo, I found myself simply spinning in wait for when we’d cut away from Dushku back to something good. Plus, the background we’ve now been given to Sierra’s character, that she was apparently sold into this slavery, is far more compelling and interesting than Echo’s background (i.e., that she willingly stepped through the Looking Glass to avoid prison).

Point being, “Terminator” has gotten to the point where they’ve figured out how to use Headey (and Thomas Dekker as John Connor) relatively well and, except for episodes featuring her almost exclusively, I’ve come to not mind her storylines. But I’m just not feeling any indication that “Dollhouse” is going to be capable of doing this with Dushku and her Echo, even if it were given a second season to try to figure itself out. Particularly since Whedon and Dushku have repeatedly said that the whole point of the show was to be a vehicle for her.

In any event, Friday night also brought something else to light about both of these shows — “Terminator” is playing for keeps, “Dollhouse” ain’t. Going into the episode, I was pretty psyched for “Dollhouse,” because the notion of these dolls being fully awake certainly opened up a lot of possibilities. Of course, I expected things to go back to a quasi-status quo, but I figured there would be at least some sort of lasting impact from the capital-A Awakening. And while there may be, every hint and impression from the episode was that things are actually going the opposite way, with everyone’s little memory-leak glitches being all fixed up, allowing them to get back to being relatively clean slates. That’s fucking boring and safe.

“Terminator,” meanwhile, did one of the ballsiest things I’ve seen on a network show, unexpectedly killing a main character in a flash, with no pomp and circumstance, nor any leaks or network signaling ahead of time. Brian Austin Green was a bit of a revelation on this show, managing to quickly make all the detractors, myself included, eat our words as he became one of the best things about the series. Despite being a fan favorite, however, showrunner Josh Friedman insisted that Derek be killed quickly and unceremoniously, as violent deaths often come. That his death was so surprising and underplayed, just a simple bullet to the head as he turned the wrong corner into the path of a skinjob, made it all the more awesome (one of the few out-loud “oh shit” moments I’ve had in ‘09), and it was the perfect cap that his remains were tossed into an unmarked grave in the same public cemetery where his brother’s remains wound up 25-years-ago.

And with that bullet, Friedman let us know that he’s not fucking around (and Fox let us know that, every once in a blue fucking moon, they’ll actually cede to the show’s creators). Several characters have been taken out over the course of this season, and it’s pretty clear that, aside from John Connor, it’s fair game on everyone. And I love that feeling about a show. It likely won’t matter, as this week’s season finale is almost certainly a series finale, but at least it’s going out strong. “Dollhouse,” meanwhile, seems to be limping to its inevitably impending series finale, and I’m going to be far less sad to see it go. In fact, you might say it will be quickly wiped from my memory. Is that too cheesy a way to go out? …fuck it.









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Comments

I think that's what bugged me about Dollhouse, too. The entire episode seemed entirely pointless at the end of it. None whatsoever.

Meh. I so wanted to love it, too. And I'm just meh.

Posted by: lizzieborden at April 6, 2009 3:08 PM

You are right on point Mr. Freilich, the problem with the Sarah character stems directly from the actress playing her, DSL lips aside, the woman has about the same gravitas as the load my retriever this morning.

As for Dollhouse..bleh.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at April 6, 2009 3:19 PM

I love T:TSCC. I will be very sad to see it go.

I can't really bag on Fox about this though, if it happens. They did at least give it more than one season. I am still hopeful for another season renewal.

Posted by: Melody at April 6, 2009 3:23 PM

*load my retriever dropped this morning

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at April 6, 2009 3:25 PM

I was *stunned* when Derek was killed. Mouth agape, stunned. I kept thinking he was playing dead to avoid the metal. Unlike every show and movie out there, like you said, they not only killed one of their leads, they did it with no fanfare. No dramatic music and slow-mo shot. No fade to black or cut to commercial. Life just kept going for the other characters. It felt like the kick in the gut that it should have.

I'll be bummed if/when the show doesn't get renewed because I think it's had some excellent moments. I think Riley and pouty-lipped woman should have been gone long ago and Charlie should have played a bigger role (but that may be because I adore Dean Winters), but I've enjoyed the development of John Henry and Cameron. I even like John since he's grown up a bit. I still find Sarah the weak link, but she's still better at acting blank than Eliza Dushku is.

Posted by: Lainey at April 6, 2009 3:27 PM

I always thought that more shows if properly written should include more killing of the main characters, “The Sopranos” were great at killing main characters within the arch of the story. But I guess with network television the killing of a main character is off limits.

Posted by: Pookie at April 6, 2009 3:30 PM

Agreed on BAG. Surprisingly good.
I really like the Connor Chronicles and loved the few intersecting weeks where Dean Winters was playing such a serious role here and alternating with his idiot Dennis character on 30 Rock. But then I have loved him since Oz so maybe I'm biased.
Anyway, no way does this show deserve the Friday night graveyard slot. I'm not hopeful for a new season but I would still watch.

Posted by: PaddyDog at April 6, 2009 3:31 PM

I enjoyed the latest "Terminator" episode, but I think I would have enjoyed it more if it had been broadcast in, like, November. To me the show's core weakness has been the incredible slowness with which the story has developed. That's fine if the fictional world is rich enough to sustain it, but in this case it hasn't been.

And I agree about Dichen Lachman on "Dollhouse." The heist episode, which saw Sierra and Echo both take on the same personality, really showed that Lachman is simply a better actress. I'm still sticking with the show, mainly out of curiosity since I can't begin to predict where it will go from here. But, as you say, it's likely to be cancelled, so I probably shouldn't bother.

Posted by: Todd at April 6, 2009 3:34 PM

Well, I don't think Fox did TSCC any favors by moving it to the shithole that is Friday - and what, Dollhouse was supposed to help? The only reason I ever tried watching Dollhouse was because it was paired with TSCC.

It took a while to find its stride, and I completely agree that Headey is the weak link - but Terminator has become the closest thing to a Battlestar replacement there could be. The second half of this season has been outstanding. I even find myself drawn to John Henry in a way I'd never have expected. He's both scary, and like an innocent child at the same time.

I was completely bummed by Derek's death this week - and completely shocked. Green really found himself in the role, I think.

Here's hoping Fox wakes up and realizes the value of TSCC.

Posted by: Cindy at April 6, 2009 3:35 PM

Heey! I'm so happy to see nice words on Pajiba on my favorite show, TSCC.

Posted by: kerim at April 6, 2009 3:40 PM

The thing that bothers me the most about Dollhouse. You can wipe their minds clean, but you can't get rid of the VD they picked up on their last ASSignment quite so easily.

Posted by: BWeaves at April 6, 2009 3:41 PM

So, you're saying Terminator killed off it's character just like Joss would have if his head wasn't so far up Dushku that he can't see how a great opening premise is being ridden into the ground? I never got into Terminator (sorry Summer!) and still hold out hope for Dollhouse, but what bugs me more is that Joss has abdicated in favour of Eliza, and has abandoned his strengths to do what? A show this short-lived ain't gonna have much in the way of syndication revenue. Man's gotta intervene soon, and dramatically. My Fridays are about to center on Flashpoint and Numb3rs if this keeps up.

Posted by: lordhelmet at April 6, 2009 3:45 PM

I will always respect BAG for that episode in the first season when Derek took John Connor to the playground to watch John's dad and Derek play as kids.

Posted by: kerim at April 6, 2009 3:47 PM

I wouldn't be surprised for BAG to come back again from an alternate future time-line.

Posted by: Google Goggle at April 6, 2009 4:02 PM

Also, BAG? Hot. Who the hell saw that coming?

Posted by: Melody at April 6, 2009 4:10 PM

I would have never expected that BAG would turn out to be such a great actr in this. Seriously first season was decent but this second one was asking all those question I was hoping for from the original movies. and john henry is freaking awesome.
About Dollhouse, I feel Joss whedon needs time to built great character relationships that stick but when he does they are there to stay, but he has a bit of a problem with constructing action. Not actions sequences but more like deus ex machina moments. I mean I don't want justification for putting something new on the table after you already did,if you know you are going to pull those cards it has to make sense. But am I making sense? yet i do hold kafka standards for the man, so I'll give him a break and wait for what happens next.
and talking of echo, caroline sounds like an annoying ball of cheap activism but I think that she isn't in the doll house because Rossum killed her boyfriend, but, because of that first personal tragedy (her own, not ours, dude looked ugly and annoying and I only cared for the deaths of the pretties) she went down of a spiral of green terrorism and probably caused some national tragedy. or at least that's what I hope. she needs to turn into a shittiest character for me to care.

Posted by: rio at April 6, 2009 4:33 PM

Is Terminator cancelled for sure? I kinda hope not. I got into it as it went along. Well, I started out watching it for Summer Glau (yum)but got to like other bits. I wasn't sure about John Henry at first, but he's just so damn watchable!
How odd that the two most interesting things are the robots...

Posted by: Odnon at April 6, 2009 5:02 PM

And I am also in complete agreement about BAG.

Posted by: Odnon at April 6, 2009 5:03 PM

i was really enjoying Terminator why did they move it to friday night death slot? i also enjoyed Dark Angel i can see a contrast between these. i am one FOX cancled show away from trying to take over the world just to put things i actually like back on the air. god help them if they get rid of simpsons.

Posted by: utah dynamo at April 6, 2009 5:25 PM

i would love to see a crossover battle between the main characther in dark angel and cameron wouldn't that be hot?

Posted by: utah dynamo at April 6, 2009 6:06 PM

Except for completely disagreeing with everything you wrote about Lena Headey, great analysis of what makes TSCC work. The show's been building up to that episode all season and it says something that Derek's death wasn't even the only "oh, shit" moment of the episode, merely the one that reminded the audience of the stakes. As for Dollhouse, I dropped out after 20 minutes. Nothing I've read since has made me reconsider that decision.

Posted by: Katie at April 6, 2009 6:13 PM

i was already bummed that they killed Charlie, then they up and killed uncle Derek. i kept hoping that he wasn't really dead--even though the bullet through the forehead didn't leave much room for doubt. i was really enjoying BAG and the weight his character brought to the show. i'm also really enjoying John Henry's interactions with Savannah. i hope this show gets another chance.

i seem to like Dollhouse more than many of you. it isn't perfect, but even if it wasn't a Joss Whedon show i would still watch. plus, it has Helo, who is incredibly sexy on the show and even sexier in person. yummy!

Posted by: pq at April 6, 2009 6:22 PM

Okay, dudes and dude-ettes, reality check time. First off, "Terminator: Sarah Connor Chronicles" should have done better in the rating; it started off great, but overall, I'm not sure it knew what it wanted to be when it grew up. As to Dollhouse, Joss Whedon has thing or two to learn about characters. He hasn't had a show with endearing ones since "Buffy." Sorry kids, but "Firefly" lacked so much identity and back story that it's no wonder nobody cared about the ship or the characters. WHO AND WHAT WERE THEY? Anybody? Anyone? No? I'll be sorry to see "Terminator: SCC" terminated, but "Dollhouse" unfortunately is as empty and inanimate as its name implies.

Posted by: Andy Geisel at April 6, 2009 6:49 PM

I'm quite enjoying Dollhouse so far! I don't know if I would have stuck with it this long if it weren't for Joss, but I'm getting to the point where his involvement isn't the only thing keeping me interested. And Helo is even sexier in person, isn't he? I'm still reeling from meeting him, Tigh and Chief at ECCC (especially Tigh.. I love love love that man).

As for Terminator, I'm really hoping it doesn't get axed. The first season took a while to find it's stride, but they made a surprisingly good move by adding Brian Austin Green to the cast. The shoot-em-up scene at the end of the season 1 finale was fantastic; that's what really sold me on the show. I needed a second season. Now that it's almost over, I'm pretty sure I need a third season, too.

Posted by: Lisa at April 6, 2009 6:53 PM

Really? Buffy was on for seven seasons, as opposed to Firely's 14-episode run; comparing their first seasons, Firefly kicks Buffy's arse in the character development department, hands down (and this is coming from a big BtVS fan).

Posted by: Lisa at April 6, 2009 7:01 PM

Also, BAG? Hot.

Spicy hot!

Posted by: Cindy at April 6, 2009 7:50 PM

WOW! That sucks about TSCC, and looks to be about the same news for Chuck. Which is why it looks like both shows are pulling out all the stops. Is there any show that premiered during the writers strike going to last more than two seasons?

Posted by: Jesus Tralfaz at April 6, 2009 8:03 PM

Just to prove that I'm not some starry-eyed fanboy, I am going to buck popular Pajiba opinion and concede that I didn't really care for Firefly. In fact, after the first four episodes, I just kinda lost interest and didn't bother to watch the rest.

That being said, I am a big Buffy fan and have seen each and every episode roughly 462 times. It was well-written, clever, touching, and all of those other wonderful adjectives used by much better writers than I to describe it over the years.

And I LIKE Dollhouse. A lot actually. I can feel Whedon's influence as of late, and I actually feel myself connecting to the characters, particularly icy Adele and her wonderfully crisp British inflection. SPOILER: When Mellie was remote-activated, I squealed. When Ballard or Victor take off their shirts, I swoon. When Echo is wiped, I'm actually starting to feel sorry for her. And when Sierra comes on the scene, I get all kind of excited. Her acting is above-par and her face is just so damned...interesting.

I really hope Fox gives the show a chance and renews it for a second season. The budget can't be all that large (at least it isn't dependent on a big special effects budget for thrills), and if they DID replace it, what would they replace it with? Just more inane game shows or reality fodder? Thanks, but no thanks. At the very least, Dollhouse is a semi-original premise, and I think with a little patience and a lot of slot-shifting, we might have another winner on our hands.

Posted by: The Pink Hulk at April 6, 2009 8:52 PM

I really like Lena Heady. I think she has a tough role and she does it well. That said...

PLEASE powers that be...PLEASE don't cancel T:SCC...post BSG the shows the only sci-fi I'm loving. They've crafted such an interested world...I want to know what Weaver is up to. They've got a really interesting thing going on...why is Skynet targeting Savannah?

Such a good show!

Dollhouse would be a much better show if Dushku were more of a character actor.

Posted by: trooper6 at April 6, 2009 9:16 PM

Disclaimer- Dollhouse hasn’t made it Australia yet, so I am only taking what I have read:
Had Joss Whedon product TSCC, would the Headey hate have been as intense as Eliza Dushku‘s? Apparently neither actress has carried their respective shows, yet some of the comments I have seen directed at Eliza Dushku have been nasty (a couple disturbingly so). Would a better actress really make Dollhouse THAT much better a show?

Lena Headey has always been TSCC’s fatal flaw. Had the show not followed on from the films, they might have gotten away with it, but she was always dwarfed by her predecessor’s shadow. Linda Hamilton’s Sarah Connor was all wire and sinew, an fiercely intense ball of paranoia and maternal over-protectiveness while Headey always looked she had stepped out of a shampoo commercial. Shame really, the supporting cast have been excellent. BAG has been worth the praise, Dekker has done his job, Garrett Dillahunt creepy as hell and Summer- ok, I’ll happily watch her in trackpants and a sweater reading out the phonebook, so I’m hardly a reliable witness.

But on the scale of shows-cut-short, it’s not as tragic a loss as Firefly (Pink, your heresy is noted). I’ll toast the end of the series and start scouring for a new one.

Posted by: Dave Shepherd at April 6, 2009 11:13 PM

arrrgh Joss Whedon produced

Posted by: Dave Shepherd at April 6, 2009 11:24 PM

I actually think Headey is doing a good job in Terminator:SCC. Also, I don't hate Eliza Dushku...she was one of my faves in Buffy. But let's, for the sake of argument, say that Heady and Dushku are both not doing that great of a job. Would a better actress make Dollhouse that much better of a show? Yes. And I'll tell you why.

In T:SCC, Headey basically has to be tough.
In Dollhouse Dushku has to convincingly alternate between wildly different sorts of characters: bookworms, tough girls, professionals, etc. Dushku is not a bad actor...but she isn't a character actor, and this part really calls for someone who can really transform themselves convincingly into other people. Whereas, I don't get those transformations from her. Now, unlike some others, there badness of her acting as blank Echo I don't think is her fault...I think that is a problem of the directors.

Posted by: trooper6 at April 6, 2009 11:54 PM

I've read a lot but will reserve judgement on Dollhouse before it gets here. I'm hoping that tuned down expectations won't make it sting so much.

As for Headey, I think she was just handed a tough assignment and in the end the interpretation she came up with just didn't fit. I agree with Seth though, they have employed her character to much better effect in S2, even though in some cases it meant sidelining her. Not the sort of thing you want from your title character.

Posted by: Dave Shepherd at April 7, 2009 12:05 AM

I hate to go somewhat off-topic, but since this is Dollhouse-related, I'd like to amend my earlier #1 pick for Best DSL's in Hollywood and instead choose Tahmoh Pinikett.

Damn...that man looks like he could suck the white off of snow with those things.

Posted by: The Pink Hulk at April 7, 2009 12:46 AM

Lisa, i know right? i have my Tigh, Helo, and Tyrol* picture framed and ready. they were so nice. and hot. totally hot. i told them that the picture is going to be my Christmas card, because it is--i'll say it loud, i'm a dork and i'm proud--and Tigh asked me to send them cards. and i will. because i am a dork.

*i do realize that those are not their real names.

Posted by: pq at April 7, 2009 12:54 AM

I have to disagree on some points here.

First off all, I think Echos role in Dollhouse is pretty clear. She has a strong caracter and has a high protecitive instict, and is therefore the most likely person in the house to break the programming and listen to her instincts. Plus we know that Alpha must have seen something special in her. This may also be why the different roles she plays are a little fuzzy on the corners. She does not accept her programing as well as the other Dolls. I still agree that Victor and Sierra are highly well writtena and played.

For Terminator, I never expected a show about Sarah Connor. From ep 1 I saw it as a show about John and the people around him, e.g. Sarah, Cameron, the now late Riley and Derek, and all the third rank cast.

I still think that Dollhouse has some future, some potential. And personally I got some surprises out of it unitl now, so I don't think that the previous episode will result in a total clean sheet. Well. maybe in the dolls, yes, but it also may become easier again for the mole to send messages. I rather see it as the end of a short sub plot, as you often find them in first seasons.

Anyway, I have some hope that we might get a second season out of Dollhouse. And it just might get better. Because Terminator, compared to it's first season, was pretty crappy at the beginning of season 2. The sub plot with the 3 dots, the alien sightings... I did not really get it. But I stuck with it, and now it's back to being awsome.

Posted by: Despar at April 7, 2009 3:04 AM

I don't get the hate for Dollhouse, I really don't. Yes, it's not the greatest show ever, but it's still pretty good, more than can be said about most of the series around. Sure, it pales in comparison to Whedons other work, but it's still one of the better shows this year. Just ignore it's Joss, and turn off some of the brainpower, I'll take Dollhouse over Fringe any day.

Posted by: Anonymous coward at April 7, 2009 3:21 AM

I Like Dollhouse too.
What a lot of folk don't get is, I think, that Whedon is writing more serious. Most of his famous dialogue banter is lacking.
But I kinda like that.
And I love the whole moral thing about the show, the using of people or are they still people when there is no personality.

Dushku isn't very good, but I don't think she sucks. Indeed the whoel 'bland look' when the Dolls are in childstate could have been better, it's a bit flat.

I quit watchin SCTTC, I don't like most of the characters/actors. Brian was indeed a great surprise.
But I will watch it when all else is done..

So I pray that the Dolls get a second season.

Posted by: Magiel at April 7, 2009 6:42 AM

I'm still watching Dollhouse, and for someone with a limited downloads, that's saying something - I'm in Australia so it doesn't air here yet but I don't watch much free to air anyway because I think it is criminal how long it takes them to actually air stuff here. I bailed on Heroes this season after about 6 eps.

Sure, it's not Whedon's best work. But it's still a) better than a lot of shit on TV and b) not a cop show/other procedural. Which it appears is the only thing that will rate decently these days. I'm prepared to stick with it, but will I be totally devastated if it isn't given a second series? No, so long as they manage to tie everything up at the end of this one...

Posted by: rach at April 7, 2009 8:49 AM

I don't think Terminator will be canceled this season, not with the movie coming out in May.

Posted by: Stew at April 7, 2009 9:03 AM

I missed Friday night's TSCC and read this before watching it last night. Even KNOWING that Derek was going to die didn't prepare me. While I was prepared for a sudden death with no fanfare, I didn't expect him to bite it so early in ththe episode. But even though I expected it, I still yelled, "Shit!" when it happened.

Posted by: superEdna at April 7, 2009 10:55 AM

Joss started treating every single project like he's god's gift to that respective network. Firefly just meandered along, no momentum, and the annoying look-how-super-powerful-this-waif-is schtick we all endured with Fred was dialed up to eleven with River. Serenity was 100% better than Firefly, and if the latter had been half as good as the former it would've lasted a whole season. Whedon got lucky because the concept was good, he's always been funny, and the cast was strong. Those actors sold most of everything and I attribute the show's success to them.

I've never heard a producer say "wait until the sixth episode, okay? That's when it gets good" until Whedon. That was the last straw for me, personally. WTF? So basically, he recognized that he wrote five slow, relatively boring episodes but figured we all stick it out because Dushku was good on one show like five years ago? Yes, she was cute in Bring It On, but has she actually been great in anything else?

Dushku is not a strong actress. She found one role that she did very well (Faith). But she does not understand what an actress does. Same tone of voice, pitch, same physical mannerisms. Almost everyone on that show is acting circles around her. And I LOVED Faith. But someone being fantastic in one role does not make them a fantastic actor.

This show was going to be my Friday night replacement for BSG, bu alas, it sucks mightily.

Tricia Helfer and Grace Park could teach Dushku a thing or two.

Posted by: Sara at April 7, 2009 3:48 PM

If Terminator costs more to produce than anything they could stick in its place (and it probably does), I think they'll cancel it. I don't want them to, but it's about money. If they can get better ratings with a cheaper show, they'll probably yank it and put some unscripted crap in its place. I disagree about Lena Heady being bland. She's mostly just tense, which, you know, you're gonna be if machines are constantly coming back from the future to do a drive-by on your ass. I was bummed when they killed BAG (who was compelling in the show), but not stunned, really. I figure one of them was gonna bite it when the Terminator dude showed up.

I've declared my lukewarm like for Dollhouse. I expect it to be canceled as well. If I'm wrong, I'll continue to watch. The story is just interesting enough to keep me watching. Having a hot dude be shirtless every now and then doesn't hurt.

Posted by: Slash at April 7, 2009 5:17 PM

Science fiction was created to satisfy the adolescent male motivation array. Until they understand that, they will continue to fail with new shows and movies. Even the names show the radical female-ization of science fiction today: "The Sarah Connors Chronicles," ... female centered and named story about a man who saves humanity from machines. Where's the man? The original movie was the coming of the savior, the strong male, John Connors. So where is he? How about "The John Connors Chronicles?" Too obvious? Not pandering enough? Can't get it past the bean-counters who are trying to maximize audience by destroying audience? "Dollhouse:" girl named series. Get serious. One pimply-faced adolescent male to another.."Did you you see Sarah kick butt last night? Man, I just live to fantasize about getting my butt kicked by girls!" Sure. Look at the Mega hit movies in the Spiderman series to get what I mean. Powerful male adolescent whips enemies and gets the girl---who is not a powerful male herself. Get back to basics of human psychology for success.

Posted by: David at April 8, 2009 10:54 AM

Seems to me that Rhona Mitra would have been a much better choice playing "Sarah"..... any of the "Cylons" would have been better fitted for "echo".

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