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No Satisfaction

By Sarah Carlson | Posted Under TV Reviews | Comments (49)



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Sometimes during certain “Mad Men” episodes, the rampant sexism depicted sends my blood racing to such a boiling point, I quickly move past thoughtful to homicidal — past typing up observations of the episode to yelling at characters to stab another character’s eyes out with a pencil. Sunday’s “The Summer Man” was one of those episodes. Half a meditation on Don’s life and half a look at sexual politics in the workplace, the eighth episode of Season Four combined to form a fairly bleak view of the “Mad Men” world in mid-1965. The characters are still stuck in their situations, whether they were self-created or not, and winning doesn’t seem to be in the cards for most. Some, such as Don, have reevaluated their expectations, while others, such as Joan, have lowered theirs. But when your only goal is survival, fulfillment is usually nowhere in sight.

“They say once you have to cut back on your drinking, you’ve got a drinking problem,” Don narrates as the episode opens. They also say that when you drink at 10 a.m. at the office, you’ve got a drinking problem, Don. Welcome to Step 1. But perhaps he’s hit bottom hard enough — especially after losing Anna — that he can now come back up to the surface. Naturally, the writers have him swimming at an athletic club’s pool, out of breath but at least taking steps toward leading a healthier lifestyle. Outside the club it is summer, and Don stops to light a cigarette as the Stone’s “Satisfaction” plays and passersby walk in and out of the shot. He looks classically cool, but his suit and tie stands out against the younger and hipper crowd around him.

Don is journaling now, and his scribblings narrate part of the episode in a manner that reminded me of a neo-noir. But this isn’t a noir, and self-serious voice overs can quickly turn into a ham-fisted way to quickly get information across to the viewer. The gimmick mostly worked here, especially as Don himself acknowledges the awkwardness he feels in his journaling (“I sound like a little girl, writing down what happened today,” he says later). But given the rest of the episode’s storylines, I wish the writers would allow Joan her own episode and narration. Don is in search of, and seems to be on the way toward attaining, atonement. The women of his world, however, are in for a longer journey.

Joan is the butt of many of the male Sterling Cooper Draper Pryce employees’ jokes, and none outshines the others as much as the freelancer, Joey. He and Stan are busting up a new vending machine, in which Joey lost his watch, and the ruckus brings Joan out of her office to investigate. Joey calls her “mom” and is disrespectful to her request that he respect office property, so Joan calls him to her office. Joey is all eye rolls and indignant, protesting that Stan behaves worse than he does (saying this as Stan moons Joey and Joan from the office window). When Joan calls him arrogant, he goes after her. “What do you do around here besides walking around like you’re trying to get raped?” he asks. “Excuse me?” Joan replies, in shock and controlled anger. “I’m not some young girl off the bus,” he says. “I don’t need some madam from a Shanghai whore house to show me the ropes.” Stab him in the eye, Joanie! I’m not kidding.

Joan soon sees Joey talking with Stan and some guy outside her office, obviously relaying his comments to her, and they all laugh. She leaves the office after that and comes home to find Greg about to leave for Army basic training. She cries at the thought of spending eight weeks alone and without someone to talk to. What about her friends at work? Greg asks, and she only cries harder. “Is this the way you want to spend this time, crying?” Greg asks, implying they sleep together. “I can’t,” Joan says. “Oh, sure you can,” he replies as he kisses her. The ever-forceful Greg. Joey’s comment about Joan “trying to get raped” was nicely timed, considering Joan was raped at the old office by the man to whom she’s now married. Now he is preparing for Vietnam. And no, Joey, she didn’t ask for any of it.

Vietnam picked up its pace in the summer of ‘65, and Don watches news footage of the war on TV as he journals. Sunday is Gene’s second birthday, and Don knows he’s not invited to or wanted at his son’s party. Betty has already left a message for him at work telling him he can’t have the kids that weekend. “He was conceived in a moment of desperation, and born into a mess,” Don writes, and he goes on to list goals he has for himself. Gaining “a modicum of control over the way I feel” is for starters, which he’s finally associating with drinking.

Don watches his co-workers, including Peggy and Stan, drink at the office the next day but doesn’t join them. He sits in a daze until he’s told the Mountain Dew reps didn’t like the agency’s ad pitch. They’ll need more help, so Don calls in Joan to tell her that Joey will need to be made a full-time employee for the next several weeks. Joan speaks up, saying she knows it’s the wrong place to say this, but perhaps hiring Joey isn’t the best idea. She says, vaguely, that there have been complaints about Joey and his behavior, and she mentions he was involved with “a very blue joke.” “Boys will be boys,” Don says, not having heard enough evidence to take action, one would assume. Stan pipes up as Joan leaves, saying, “I know the joke — This guy’s balls are so big!” Peggy leaves to confront Joey, telling him to lay off Joan. Joey isn’t moved, saying that every office has a Joan, someone who thinks they can boss others around. Even his mother was a Joan, he says. She’s not your mother, Peggy says, and she and Lane basically run the place. She warns him against further assholeishness.

That night, Don has dinner with Bethany, a woman he’s dated sporadically during the past eight or so months. She’s painfully young for him, but she’s direct in telling him what she wants from him — his attention. In walk Henry and Betty, however, and Betty loses her composure at the sight of Don with Bethany. As they walk past their table, Henry coldly says hello to Don as Betty is silent, and Betty later can’t help but eye the two throughout dinner. Henry is meeting with Ralph Stuben (Peter Lewis), a political aide for U.S. Rep. John Lindsay, to thank him for securing Gov. Nelson Rockefeller’s support for their campaign. Stuben says Lindsay only has his eyes on being mayor but that, hypothetically, they are putting together a team to look at the possibility of him running for president in 1972. “It would be built, if it were going to be built, around you,” Stuben says to Henry, who then turns his attention to Betty. She’s still glaring at Don, and Henry asks if she knows what she wants to order. “Honey, this part is almost over,” Stuben says to her reassuringly. The poor wife doesn’t want to listen to man talk! She excuses herself and rushes to the bathroom to hide in a stall and smoke.

On the Francis’ drive home, Betty is drunk and sulking and Henry is angry with her for misbehaving in public. ” ‘I need a drink.’ What are you, a wino?” Henry says. “That is not something you’re allowed to say.” Betty reminds him that she’s already been married to someone who tried to control what she could and could not say, and Henry says that Don is still too present in Betty’s life, and perhaps also in her heart. Then he tells her to shut up. As Don and Bethany head to their homes in a taxi, though, Don is all smiles as Bethany performs oral sex on him. (“She wants me to know her, but I already do,” is what he will write in his journal.) In the morning, Betty apologizes to Henry while justifying being upset at the sight of Don. “Henry, he was the only man I’d ever been with,” she says. In the garage, as Henry gets in the car to head to work, he sees rows of boxes in front of him labeled “Draper.” He accelerates, crushing the boxes slightly, before leaving.

At his office, Don overhears Faye in the office telephone booth, yelling at and breaking up with someone. Joan, tired of hearing complaints about the new vending machine, goes to Lane’s office to tell him the machine is simply trouble. Joey, Stan and Peggy see Joan go to Lane’s office, and when someone wonders what the two are doing in there, Joey starts drawing a cartoon of them having oral sex. Peggy tells him to stop. Back in Don’s office, Henry calls him to say he needs to pick up his boxes from their garage. Because Sunday is Gene’s birthday, Henry says, it would be best if Don came by Saturday. Don is compliant, too broken to argue.

Peggy goes to Joan’s office to complain that they vending machine ate her money, but while there, the two notice Joey’s graphic cartoon has been taped to Joan’s window. Joan goes out to the creative wing to confront the boys, and when no one confesses to the drawing, says, “It’s a very brave person who does something anonymously.” Stan replies, “It’s a very brave person who does that,” gesturing to what’s going on in the cartoon. “It’s still illegal in many states, you know.” Joan has her own response to the problem: “I can’t wait until next year when all of you will be in Vietnam. You will be pining for the day when someone was trying to make your life easier. When you’re over there, and you’re in the jungle, and they’re shooting at you, remember you’re not dying for me because I never liked you.” She walks away as the guys are silenced, but probably not sorry.

Peggy doesn’t think that speech covered it, however, and she grabs the cartoon and heads to Don’s office. She tells him Joey is responsible and wants him to take action, but Don tells her to go fire Joey if she likes. “Believe me, you do not want me involved in this. People will think you’re a tattle tale,” Don says. “You want some respect? Go out there and get it for yourself.” And so she does. Peggy calls Joey into her office to reprimand him for drawing the lewd cartoon, especially after she told him not to. “This is why I don’t like working with women; you have no sense of humor,” he says. So, Peggy fires him. At first disbelieving, Joey then says that they will see what Don has to say about the situation. “Don doesn’t even know who you are,” Peggy replies. “Sorry it didn’t work out.” Joey then dumps out her files and causes a slight scene as he leaves the agency. “Watch out, fellas. Fun’s over.” Stab him in the eye! Gouge ‘em both out! Gah.

Don is still in his office, now talking with Faye about something workish, and he not-so-smoothly asks her out for dinner. She suggests he ask her out for an actual date, not just for a dinner tacked onto a workday. They decide to meet Saturday.

Betty is at home talking with her friend, Francine (Anne Dudek), about the previous night and her “misbehavior” with Henry and Stuben. She’s still upset at the sight of Don and a girl who looked all of 15, she says. Francine says that her husband always thinks Don looks like a wreck, but Betty doesn’t believe it. “He’s living the life,” she says, “let me tell you. He doesn’t get to have this family and that. Francine has better advice, though: “Just be careful. Don has nothing to lose, and you have everything.”

Later, as Peggy and Joan leave for the day, Peggy brings up Joey’s firing. Joan already knows, and she isn’t thrilled. “Now everybody in the office will know that you solved my problem and you must be very important,” she says. Peggy is stunned, saying she defended Joan, but Joan says Peggy only defended herself. She’d already handled it, and could have handled it further on her own if she’d felt it necessary. “So, it’s the same result,” Peggy protests. “You wouldn’t be a big shot,” Joan replies. “No matter how powerful we get around here, they can still just draw a cartoon. So all you’ve done is prove to them that I’m another meaningless secretary and you’re another humorless bitch.” I guess we really can’t win. If you’re not gonna drink that liquor, Don, I will.

On Saturday, Don arrives at his old house to find his boxes of belongings waiting for him at the curb. Henry is mowing the yard, ignoring Don as he packs the boxes in his car’s trunk. Don just takes the boxes to a dumpster, however, and Henry ignores Betty later on as he comes into the kitchen from doing the yard work. “We’re flawed because we want so much,” Don writes in his journal that afternoon. “We’re ruined because we get these things and wish for what we had.” He takes Faye out to dinner that night, commenting that it was hard to get reservations at the restaurant. He should have just come to her, she says — she knows people who know how to get things. Her father, for instance. He owns a candy store and is “a handsome two-bit gangster” like Don. Don tells her that Sunday is Gene’s birthday but that he isn’t going, saying he isn’t welcome there. “He thinks that man is his father,” he says. “Maybe it’s OK.” “All he knows of the world is what you show him,” Faye says.

Don complements Faye’s work and asks her how she’s able to get clients to do what she wants. She cites one of Aesop’s fables, a tale of the wind and the sun competing to see who can make a man take off his jacket. The wind’s blowing only makes the man hold onto his jacket tighter; the sun’s warm rays make the man take off his jacket without a hitch. “Kindness, gentleness and persuasion win where force fails,” she says. Don then plays on the story and gives Faye his coat, and later in their taxi ride, the two kiss. Faye asks where Don lives, but he rejects her offer of coming over and says he’s just going to take her to her door. “That’s as far as I can go right now,” he says. “That’s not what I expected,” she replies, not unhappily.

The next day at the pool, where he has been swimming all week, Don begins to race the man swimming in the lane next to his. He’s gotten better during the week and is clearly more energized. He then shows up at the Francis residence with a stuffed elephant for his son. Henry asks Betty what Don is doing there, but Betty smiles and graciously carries Gene over to see Don. She returns to Henry’s side, saying, “We have everything.” Then, she watches as Don lifts Gene up in the air, smiling and making faces at the son who really doesn’t know him.

The soul-searching done by Don (and a little by Betty) appears to be helping them slowly turn their respective lives around, or at least in healthier directions. Yes, you generally can achieve more through kindness than force, as we saw play out in the former couple’s handling of Gene’s birthday party. Betty letting go of some of her anger toward Don is impressive, but now it seems that Henry has inherited her bitterness.

But, what about when gentleness doesn’t work — Is the mentioned fable supposed to apply to Joan’s story? Should Peggy have just let the cartoon fiasco go instead of taking charge and kicking Joey to the curb? Joey’s disgusting treatment of Joan also seemed to appear out of nowhere; was he always such a jerk? Joan is right in what she said to Peggy; assertiveness in a woman is almost always translated into her being a bitch. But that shouldn’t stop a woman from being assertive; it’s the “bitch” part that needs changing.

I prefer the Joan who shattered a vase over Greg’s head, and hurled a bouquet of roses at Lane’s. I’d have reacted the same way Peggy did, and my instinct is to shake Joan, and tell her to fight back and try to take what is hers. But she’s been beaten one too many times at a game she knows is rigged, and I can’t judge her. Don is taking baby steps toward remaking himself, but Joan hasn’t been given that chance. That leaves her, and the viewers, unsatisfied.

Sarah Carlson has a front-row seat to the decline of the newspaper industry and lives in Alabama with her overly excitable Pembroke Welsh Corgi.









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Comments

This "review" reads like a teenager's book report.

Posted by: Snackwell at September 14, 2010 12:03 PM

Especially with the Vietnam undercurrent and the couple of comparisons made to Korea, I felt this episode was really about a shift in perspective, and that's where Aesop's fable comes in. The times, they are a-changin', and I think some people see that coming way better than others. Force, intimidation, power-plays are not going to work anymore.

The difference between Peggy and Joan's handling of Joey lies somewhere in there. Joan has spent years mastering the nuances of the gender- and power-plays in the workplaces, and she navigates in that status quo where men had the power simply because they were men and always had. She's might not like it, but she's mastered moving in it, and I don't think would give a second thought to changing it.

Peggy, not so much. She's in unchartered territory, having been moved along through talent without respect to gender (thank you, Don, at least for that) and is learning and I think fighting to create a place where the "bitch" tag shouldn't exist, and the old power-plays are no longer allowed. With whatever other hang-ups Don has with women, he believes in Peggy because she has talent, drive and respect and pride in her work and it's producation, and so she is beginning to believe that it's those same things that should drive the workplace, not the bullshit of the past.

Even though we still have quite a way to go now, it just amazes me where we were such a short time ago.

Posted by: leuce7 at September 14, 2010 12:16 PM

I apologize for the typos in all the above. Apparently, I edit like a teenager writing a book report.

Posted by: leuce7 at September 14, 2010 12:18 PM

Only one thing I'd disagree with: "Because Sunday is Gene's birthday, Henry says, it would be best if Don came by Saturday. Don is compliant, too broken to argue." I didn't take it that way at all: He wasn't broken, and his reaction fit into the more broadminded worldview he's trying to develop. He says, "I see," but what he *said* was, "I get it, asshole, and I could give you a fight, but I'm going to rise above what you're doing."

I wonder if Joan is named after Joan Crawford in The Best of Everything (1959): "The 'witch' Amanda Farrow, whose demanding exterior masks a truly lonely woman, a waspish, hard edged editor in a paperback publishing house. Jaded and embittered, she is involved in a disappointing affair with a married man and tends to take out her frustrations on the girls under her charge."

Posted by: pk at September 14, 2010 12:23 PM

I thought one of the most important lines of the episode was when Faye yelled, "I'm talking now!" into the phone. Sing it sister!

Posted by: Mrs. Julien at September 14, 2010 12:37 PM

I think the important moment for me in the Joey firing was that Peggy tells him to apologize first. Even though she was told to fire him she tries to get things smoothed over, by getting Joey to show some respect, but then he blows her off. When she fires him, he tries to back-peddle, but fails. Peggy didn't want to be Joan's problem solver, she wanted to find a resolution between the two parties. But Joan and Peggy have always had a disconnect in their relationship when it comes to handling the men in the office.

Joan lot was heart-breaking in this episode, though. Joey had been portrayed as so charming and then he said those disgusting things. I was a wreck for her sake and I just wanted to give her a hug after kicking Joey in the balls.

Eh, the narration was "take it or leave it" for me, but I like that we're getting to see more of this from Don. He finally recognizes that he has problems and I love seeing this epiphany in him. Between this week and last week's episode I'm starting to have a new hope for him.

Posted by: Kayanne at September 14, 2010 12:40 PM

It's not a "review", it's a recap numbnuts. And a fairly detailed one at that. I like getting to reflect on all the little details in each episode. This is one of the few shows where no detail is a throw-away.

Posted by: valerie at September 14, 2010 12:41 PM

Man, I know it's Pajiba, but all the hate for the content is seriously unjustified. Somebody must have pissed in a whole production run of Wheaties. I don't recall anyone holding a gun to my head to keep reading if I thought the quality was lacking.

Anyway, I didn't mind the narration. It's not like Don has a lot of confidants now that Anna's dead and he's not hot 'n heavy with someone. I'd prefer voiceover exposition to setting him up with another meaningless affair.

Posted by: Wednesday at September 14, 2010 12:50 PM

Exactly Valerie!

I have been thinking about this episode a lot and the shifts that are coming for women. Faye is exactly what Don needs and for that matter would be great for Sally and Bobby as well; so you know she's toast. Betty for all of her churlish attempts at control clearly views herself in some ways as child with her "I misbehaved" comment.

I do so love Joan. She's trapped in world (and a body) that consistently garner the same response. What she doesn't get is that although she is a woman with some semblance of power in her world what Peggy did was for all women. Of course, Joan can temporarily put the bad boys in their place, but most women can't. She and Peggy represented the past and the future on their little elevator trip with Joan's "all it will take is one dinner with hoozeypoofy" versus Peggy's "I did it for you." Joan is so trapped and in her girdled cage. How about that comment about the secretaries getting fat? Heaven forfend!

I did some math (it took hours) and if Peggy was 26 in 1965, it's conceivable that the character would have retired in about 2004. Can you imagine what she would have survived? There may be a glass ceiling where I work but NO ONE has ever said anything inappropriate to me or in front of me. I think I'd faint.

Posted by: Mrs. Julien at September 14, 2010 1:00 PM

I really hated Don's inner narrative. It came out of nowhere and just didn't belong in this show. We've never had anything like it before and then suddenly Don is journaling. It didn't ring true.

I thought it was significant that we saw Don removed from the younger generation by their dress but then we see that despite the cooler clothes and freer attitudes, the younger generation of men was every bit as sexist and obnoxious as the older ones. The only difference is that instead of having a veneer of politeness, they are openly hostile to women.

My Peggy hate continues. She only wanted Joey to apologize to Joan after what he did but then he accuses her of no sense of humor and that's what triggers the firing. Joan pegged her.

I also think that the "mom" comment was more painful for Joan than the rape comment. We've seen that she wants a baby and her husband is going away and then suddenly she's being accused of being an overbearing mother to a bunch of infants at work.

Posted by: PaddyDog at September 14, 2010 1:03 PM

Mrs. Julien:

You're lucky. I worked in an office in 1997 where the male staff kept a weekly rating chart of which womens' legs looked best that week. We complained many times and were told to get a sense of humor.

Posted by: PaddyDog at September 14, 2010 1:07 PM

Joan (somewhat ironically, given their respective job duties) has a much deeper understanding of people than does Peggy, which is tragic in this particular setting. Very telling that the focus of Joan's diatribe was what the men in the office think of each of them. Her lack of gratitude was the immediate cause of Peggy's shocked expression, but it probably also wouldn't have occurred to Peggy to care much that she's thought of as a bitch. It would have been a perfect time for the Tina Fey comeback, "Oh yeah, well bitches get stuff done!"

On another note, I'd be way too thin-skinned to write for this site. It would piss me right the hell off to put in as much work as this recap obviously took, just to have some punk dismiss it in a few words.

Posted by: sansho1 at September 14, 2010 1:09 PM

My Peggy hate continues. She only wanted Joey to apologize to Joan after what he did but then he accuses her of no sense of humor and that's what triggers the firing. Joan pegged her.

I disagree. I mean I love Peggy, but that aside, she presented Joey with a reasonable option, he presented her with insolence so she had no choice BUT to fire him. Though his words stung, I think it was less about personal pride and more about the tough position you HAVE to be in when you are an authority figure. I've fired before, you've probably fired before. It's awful and uncomfortable and you'd like to do anything to avoid it. So she tried that, but he left her no choice.

Joan MIGHT have had that conversation with Peggy in a more intellectual less HORRID fashion because Peggy DID show gender solidarity (more so, in my opinion, than she showed for Allison). Instead Joan hit her on the nose with a rolled up newspaper. Darling Joan, I love you, but this is why, when your horrible husband leaves to (I HOPE I HOPE I HOPE DIE IN) Vietnam, you'll have no one to talk to.

Posted by: coveredinbees at September 14, 2010 1:11 PM

I don't understand the Peggy hate. I don't love her, but I think she is doing her best to find her way in a hostile environment.

Posted by: Mrs. Julien at September 14, 2010 1:15 PM

What Joey did was blatant insubordination. You don't tell your boss "No" without a damn good reason or friends in high places. She was left with no choice but to fire him.

Posted by: Wednesday at September 14, 2010 1:17 PM

Also, I wanted to bring up a REALLY interesting discussion I read, ahem, elsewhere which is the different attitudes among the generations on Mad Men. Specifically, the stark contrast between Don telling Peggy "This never happened," when he visited her in the hospital and Allison yelling at Don, "This actually happened," after their really awkward couch sex/holiday bonus/reference letter debacle.

There's the sweep it under the rug generation ("What rape?" says Joan) and the let's be frank and examine our lives generation. What is fascinating to me, is the twin ways in which Betty (much as I hate her) and Don are breaking out of their generation's edict. Betty with her tentative second foray into therapy (oh OSTENSIBLY for Sally, sure, but how much do we love that this therapist is obviously going to work on Betty too) and Don with his JOURNALING. I mean, his whole life has been "lock it away in a drawer, " and the enthralling element of Mad Men, particularly this season, is how this lantern jaw superman that is Don Draper, exposes his vulnerability and damage.

Do I wish it were done (as it usually is) in a more subtle way than a journaling voice-over? Yes, yes I do. But I still think it's an interesting comment on the shifting ethos of the time.

P.S. KINSEY LIVES! BRING HIM, HIS BEARD AND HIS PIPE BACK!

Posted by: coveredinbees at September 14, 2010 1:19 PM

1. What? No blind Mrs. Blankenship juggling booze bottles?

2. And what about Harry telling Joey that he could be a movie star or TV star early in this episode? Could that be a preview of why the writers decided Peggy should fire him? So he'll show up later in one of their TV commercials?

3. I was thrilled Peggy fired Joey. I didn't think Joan's "Just wait until you're in Vietnam" talk really had the desired effect on the boys. I was devastated with Joan's response to Peggy in the elevator, although I can see her point of view.

4. I missed Stan mooning Joan, and I couldn't tell what the drawing was. I think I need Mrs. Blankenship's glasses.

Posted by: BWeaves at September 14, 2010 1:30 PM

5. I also liked the beginning with "Satisfaction" playing, which didn't go with Don's style at all, but matched exactly what he was doing. "Someone telling me how white my shirt must be," while Don's whiter than Clorox white shirt is glowing brighter than Crisco vegetable shortning on a sunny day. And "He can't be a man because he doesn't smoke the same cigarettes as me," while Don lights up a cigarette.

Posted by: BWeaves at September 14, 2010 1:38 PM

Valerie,

I believe if you scroll up to the top you'll see that this is filed under: "TV Reviews".

Posted by: Snackwell at September 14, 2010 1:39 PM

Let me explain my Peggy hate. From Day 1 I have never seen her do anything that wasn't out of complete self-interest. She works so hard to be "one of the boys" that it makes me sick. She spits on her family and looks down on the other secretaries. Let's face it, the only reason she's where she is today is because she liked one shade of lip stick, so what basis does she have for being so condescending? She doesn't even knock on Joan's door when she goes in to her office. Yeah, she's great to Don but he's her boss so why not cozy up to the guy who signs your pay check, and she never calls him out on anything that doesn't affect her. In short, she reminds me of everyone I have ever worked with who read "The Fountainhead" and used it as a justification for being self-centered.

Posted by: PaddyDog at September 14, 2010 1:43 PM

Did you ever win the leg competition PaddyDog? I'm just wondering...

Posted by: DeistBrawler at September 14, 2010 1:45 PM

BWeaves:

You reminded me of something I wanted to ask: would those guys actually be eligible for Vietnam? Assuming they are already college grads and working in 1965 which would make them 24 or 25, would they have been drafted? I always assumed it was much younger guys who were sent.

And was the draft that much of a big deal already in 1965 that Joan would mention it?

Posted by: PaddyDog at September 14, 2010 1:47 PM

But see, that's a reason why Peggy is so interesting. She's struggling to find her way in a profession that is wholly unfriendly to her gender. She's trying to figure out how she can navigate. Is it being one of the boys? Having nooners at hotels and drinks in divey bars? Well, yes, to a certain extent. I was SO disappointed with the way she treated Allison, but then we see her character develop in THIS episode as she realizes she can't ally herself with these assholes. You can't say her firing Joey was out of self-interest when nothing was directed her way until the "no sense of humor" comment. Why did she go to Don in the first place if not to defend Joan? And didn't she apologize and quite nicely to Joan for not knocking on her door?

Posted by: coveredinbees at September 14, 2010 1:48 PM

I did DeistBrawler, but I was younger then and, I hate to say, secretly chuffed. How embarrassing is that?

Posted by: PaddyDog at September 14, 2010 1:49 PM

*tips hat*
There is nothing wrong with that.

Posted by: DeistBrawler at September 14, 2010 1:52 PM

Okay Bees, let's say she's just trying to find her way (which I don't agree with, but for the sake of argument): why treat her family the way she does? I get it, they're old fashioned and they just want her to get married but they also did her a major favor taking on that inconvenient baby that she spawned while she got on with her career and yet she never gives them an inch. Look Mom I bought you a TV so you can watch the commercials I work on, now let me fling all your values and beliefs in your face while you worry about me. She treated her mother like a piece of shit on the phone last week.
I also don't think she apologized nicely to Joan: she apologized after Joan called her on always cutting through her office.
She's a classic Ayn Rand worshipper and I have no time for her.

Finally (and I'll admit this is my personal bias), you don't get to pat yourself on the back for being better than the average girl for having a career and then sob over the fact that you want someone to kiss on New Year's Eve. You know what that sentiment makes you? That's right: just another average girl.

Posted by: PaddyDog at September 14, 2010 2:01 PM

You know what that sentiment makes you? That's right: just another average girl.

See and I think that just makes her a compelling human. I have serious issues with MY family and THEIR morals, so maybe I over-relate there. But yes, she ought to show SOME gratitude over them caring for the baby but maybe she would be more inclined to if they didn't treat her like such utter trash all the time.

Can we agree to disagree and, instead, bond over how much we hate the monster that is Betty Draper?

Posted by: coveredinbees at September 14, 2010 2:07 PM

@ snackwell: did you forget to eat your bran this morning? I believe the mission statement of Pajiba is to direct the bitchiness at the entertainment being reviewed.

Thanks for the recap and the opportunity to discuss the episode. I personally would hate to review this particular episode because it seemed all over the map, with a million different possible takes on all the moments. In particular, the sexism on my screen was so visceral it was hard to watch, much less dissect, and then you have to decide whether to examine in terms of 60s sensibilities or current mores. I also mention that men overtly drawing cartoons of sexual situations still haunts my particular male-dominated workplace, as late as the 1990s, and a bit more subtly to this day.

I didn't care for the voiceover. On another site, a commenter pointed out that perhaps the style of the episode is a conscious homage to Coppola's Apocalyse Now (apparently other eps are in the style of particular directors? I did not catch this.) What do other people think?

Posted by: Daisy Mae at September 14, 2010 2:13 PM

I'll give "Betty Godzilla Draper" and I'm hoping we also agree that Sally Draper is one smart little girl.

We know she loves her Dad but did you see how she just waved to him at the party as if she knew a big show of affection would not go down well and ruin the day?

Posted by: PaddyDog at September 14, 2010 2:13 PM

I love Sally, but if she ends up murdering Betty in her sleep, I won't be surprised.

Posted by: coveredinbees at September 14, 2010 2:16 PM

@paddydog

Just a small correction. Peggy's family didn't take the baby for her, the baby we see later on is her sister Anita's baby. They were pregnant the same time.

Posted by: Becks at September 14, 2010 2:17 PM

@ paddydog and coveredinbees

Peggy's family didn't take in her baby. We don't know who adopted her baby. That's been positively confirmed by Weiner. Peggy's sister was shown as being pregnant when Peggy was in the hospital, I believe. I am not negating your opinions, which are valid.

Posted by: Daisy Mae at September 14, 2010 2:17 PM

I was disappointed with Joan's response to Peggy which of course was spot on for the character, but Peggy did not fire Joey because of what he did to Joan. That may have lead up to the confrontation and a mitigating factor, but Peggy fired him because he did not respect her, if he got away with that shit she knew this would affect whatever small bit of respect she gets from the other men she works with.
Now the guys really do know that you don't fuck around with Peggy.

It was just easier for her to tell Joan (and herself) that she did it for Joan then to admit the truth.

I love that Peggy was willing to use the power Don handed to her.

Posted by: Jules at September 14, 2010 2:18 PM

Okay, I didn't catch that about the baby. Thanks for the correction.

But I still think she treats her family like dirt. I have major issues with my mother's attitudes to life and there's a reason why I live 3,000 miles away from her, but I also accept she's a different generation and didn't have the chances I've had to experience life from different perspectives so I treat her with respect and I try to meet her half way.

Posted by: PaddyDog at September 14, 2010 2:21 PM

Daisy Mae, no way! How interesting! (that's not sarcasm, it looks like sarcasm, it's not).

And, oh, come ON, Peggy's moves were DEFINITELY motivated by her concern over the sexism in the office. Power and authority too, sure. But you can't say her gender had nothing to do with it. Did you see her face in the scene in Don't office when Joan was referring obliquely to Joey's behavior. He hadn't yet defied her, so it wasn't about that.

Posted by: coveredinbees at September 14, 2010 2:23 PM

She's a classic Ayn Rand worshipper and I have no time for her.

How do you get that she is some Randian nutjob?

I totally understand the way she is with her family.
Her mother criticizes EVERYTHING Peggy does. Nothing makes her proud. Hell she even complained about the TV.

Posted by: Jules at September 14, 2010 2:25 PM

@PaddyDog - I did mean in this day and age. I have worked in my current location since 2003.

Posted by: Mrs. Julien at September 14, 2010 2:28 PM

Those guys definitely would have been eligible for the draft. None of them had dependents or were in college. Unless they had a medical reason for ineligibility or a handful of other possible exclusions, yeah, they would have been 1-A and subject to the draft lottery.

Posted by: Wednesday at September 14, 2010 2:40 PM

Gott in Himmel Paddydog! I misread that as 1977 instead of 1997. That is appalling.
Now that I think of it, I do remember a summer job around 1990 as a secretary
when I asked my boss if there was anything he needed to do and he told me to sit
there and look pretty. At the time, I thought nothing of it and he was a kind,
avuncluar man so I wasn't offended.

And there was the time in the mid-1990s that I had to tell my boss that the Chair
of the Board was making me very uncomfortable and had touched my hair or face.
Isn't it funny, I can't remember which. My (male) boss was very good about it.

I guess we've come some distance since the 1990s and I should be grateful for my
current employer. At the very least, I would feel comfortable saying something
about it.

But back to Mad Men....

I found it interesting that Stan was wearing Miss Blankenship's glasses during
the dressing down by Joan. He makes me the most pencil stabby of all.

The thing about jerks is that it doesn't matter how sharp your retort or put down
is, they will never stop because they are always willing to sink lower than you.
The myth that you can silence people with a wicked quip is one the movies use
all the time. Even Joan knows it will only shut them up temporarily and what
weapons she needs in her arsenal to really deal with people; her comment that
Peggy seems like an uptight bitch is remarkably similar to the people that
complain about others' political correctness when you ask them to remove
3 or 4 words from their vocabulary.

Posted by: Mrs. Julien at September 14, 2010 2:52 PM

P.S. How cool was it that one of Joan's ways of letting her opinion be known,
was to say "there have been complaints". Totally awesome!

Posted by: Mrs. Julien at September 14, 2010 3:20 PM

I didn't think that was cool. ..I thought it was sort of sly/chicken of her. I mean, don't talk about it in front of everyone, Joanie, but talk about it to Don and he would have said, fire that little snot.

P.S. What rape?!?1? Oh, Joan.

Posted by: coveredinbees at September 14, 2010 3:45 PM

It's true: Stan is the real asshole and it's even possible that Joey didn't feel he could be as openly obnoxious until Stan came on board and made it acceptable.

Posted by: PaddyDog at September 14, 2010 3:59 PM

I love this show and I love the reviews! My favorite part was when Don referred to Mrs. Blankenship as Ray Charles.

Posted by: MissNev at September 14, 2010 4:47 PM

"There have been complaints" really bothered me. It's such a sneaky, underhanded way to get what you want. Joan has power in that office, even if it's indirect power, and she knows it. That kind lame-ass Machiavellian maneuvering is cheap and pathetic.

Posted by: Tracer Bullet at September 14, 2010 4:59 PM

As far as I'm concerned, Peggy did a brave and honest thing. She's been standing up to the men in the office without a second thought and she should be admired for her pioneering attitude.

Posted by: Candy at September 14, 2010 6:11 PM

I understand that Peggy is ambitious, selfish, and doesn't treat everyone like she should. What I don't understand is how that makes her different from every single other person on the show. All of the characters have those traits. Why hate Peggy any more than the others?

Posted by: Three-nineteen at September 14, 2010 10:03 PM

When that guy made the rape remark I immediately transformed into Tara of True Blood and said "OH HELL NO!"

Posted by: John W at September 14, 2010 10:30 PM

I'm tickled pink that my prediction came true: Dr. Faye Miller is the right person for Don. She seems a much better fit than the blue blood Bethany (who's just a younger version of Betty) and given the gangster background, she may be more understanding of Don's secret identity.

Posted by: oroboros at September 14, 2010 11:09 PM

I always get here late and people have already said it all...

The Ray Charles comment was indeed horribly awesome!
And I agree that the "there have been complaints" was a shitty move from Joan, but she's totally lost right now. The creepy husband is leaving, the baby thing, no friends at work, and just overall exhausted of all the crap in the office.The woman has to lose it a bit with all that.. I just hope smart powerful Joan returns, because she's one of my favorites!
And congrats on who said something about almost everyone in the show being a selfish princess, and not just Peggy..

Posted by: Mariazinha at September 15, 2010 2:45 AM