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The 10 Best and the 5 Worst Films From the First Half of 2013

By Dustin Rowles | Seriously Random Lists | July 1, 2013 | Comments ()


The 10 Best


1. Mud — Derided as a one-note actor earlier in his career (or, worse yet, accused of simply playing himself in every role), McConaughey has come into his own, particularly with the recent trio of The Lincoln Lawyer, Magic Mike and Killer Joe. This performance is where he throws his shirt into the ring (dude just can’t help taking his shirt off) and announces himself, without question or derision, as a true and proper actor. This is easily the best performance he has ever given. There are almost none of the typical McConaugheyian affectations we’ve come to expect. His Mud, a wise storyteller and a hopeless romantic, is quiet and reserved, with an inner fire that McConaughey lets come to the surface at just the right moments. — Seth Freilich


2. Frances Ha — The myths we tell ourselves and each other, our origin stories and the building of our histories are just as important as the actualities and realities of our daily lives. To be aware of the looming future, to remember most of our shared past, and to recite that lyrical awareness back and forth, back and forth, to tell the story of us — Frances Ha is a remarkable, visceral meditation on the power of loving and being loved, and our endless attempts to even understand what it might be to love ourselves. — Amanda Mae Meyncke


3. Upstream ColorUpstream Color is a remarkably beautiful and technically proficient film. The slow and deliberate direction, cinematography, sound and scoring quietly highlight, rather than distract from, Carruth’s complex script. Carruth, as a director, is sharp and smart. As an actor, he is rawer when it comes to performance, although it serves his character well here. Seimetz, on the other hand, is purely excellent. Many filmmakers try to make “art” of their movies, to bring an air of poetry and allegory beyond the simple A-to-B-to-C storyline. Most attempts fail, resulting in grating pretension. Others succeed, resulting in beautiful pretension. Upstream Color is more articulate in its themes, and far more coherent in its plot, but like the work of Terrence Malick, that pretension often throws people off. It’s certainly not for everyone. However, if you’re willing to go with a film and let it take you where it wants in the way that it wants, even if that way is sometimes bizarre and disjointed, while you may not understand it all, you’ll find yourself with an enriching and beautiful ride. — Seth Freilich


4. The Iceman — Buyer beware, there’s lots of stabbings, shootings, bloody messes all over the place, gross out moments upon sickening nasty imagery. While The Iceman is certainly not Oscar-worthy, and at times feels only like a high-class version of a sensationalized Lifetime film, but there’s still plenty to like about this creepy little movie, mainly Michael Shannon’s endless reserve of calm, threatening low-level horror. — Amanda Mae Meyncke


5. Before Midnight — The film’s shaggy structure mirrors its predecessors’, unfolding at an amiable pace over the course of an afternoon and evening on the Greek coast. Jesse (Ethan Hawke) and Celine (Julie Delpy) are still the same people they were 18 years ago, which is to say they’re still flawed people trying to balance their better intentions against bad habits. Jesse loves the son he had by another woman and wishes he got to see the boy more, but he’s also still naive and a little manipulative when it comes to relational politics. Celine’s passion and love have now spread to the two young daughters she’s had with Jesse, but she’s still quick to spar or see the worst in a situation. That’s a daring concept on its own — to show what happens after the credits roll on a romantic drama, to dig into the dirt and compromise that comes with years living together — but it only works because Linklater and his cast execute the story with the nuance and frankness they brought to the first two films. Over the course of an afternoon with friends and an evening by themselves, Jesse and Celine are drawn into wandering conversations about the nature of love and the duty of marriage. On paper it sounds abstract at best or dull at worst, but it’s neither. It’s bracing and real precisely because of how much is at stake, and how believably loving and wounded these people alternately become before our eyes. — Daniel Carlson


6. This Is the End — There’s a bracing simplicity to This Is The End. It’s a film that is utterly without depth, nuance, or subtlety. To top that, there’s also a somewhat embarrassing sense of self-indulgence to it. How could there not be? The film is written and directed by Evan Goldberg and Seth Rogen, and it stars Rogen and all of their close friends — Jay Baruchel, Jonah Hill, James Franco, Craig Robinson, and Danny McBride — as well as a host of other well-known actors, all playing themselves. There’s an element of “look how much we’ve made it” to the whole thing that, at first glance, feels arrogant and distasteful. And that feeling would be easy to maintain, except that there’s also a brutal element of self-parody to the film as well that makes the entire endeavor much more palatable. It’s far from a perfect movie, but it is an enjoyable, often hilarious diversion. — TK


7. Iron Man 3 — Iron Man 3 is unquestionably a wildly enjoyable action film, even if it isn’t always very good at being a superhero film. It’s smart, it’s funny, it’s puzzling and weird and awful and dark in places, a film very unlike any of its predecessors. For those who have seen the Lethal Weapon films as well as Black’s other directorial effort, the tremendous Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang, it will feel comfortably familiar, even as the more ludicrous aspects of it explode across the screen. The plot is at times a bit bewildering, and there’s little-to-no explanation as to how the Extremis program creates such amazing and dangerous super soldiers other than some gobbledygook about unlocking the brain’s potential, and often it’s a bit frustrating that a two+ hours film about Iron Man seems to have, quite frankly, not enough Iron Man. Yet all of that is forgivable — especially after the balls-out bonkers finale and the sheer enthusiasm that is clearly imprinted all over the it — and unlikely to affect the overall enjoyment you’ll get out of the film. — TK


8. Warm Bodies — It’s plain to see that it’s a film about change and love and all those adorable things, and it manages to mostly deliver that message with a goofy, self-aware sweetness that makes it easy to see that this came from the man who gave us the wonderful 50/50. But while that film allowed its thematic elements to unfold organically, Warm Bodies occasionally takes a blunt force approach that is at times aggravatingly on-the-nose. Yet that shouldn’t be cause to avoid the film, because overall it’s an absorbing bit of romantic candy that still manages to avoid being too precious or treacly. That’s due to some mostly solid writing (although from my understanding it veers away from the novel in many ways) and wonderful directing, and a pair of strong performances from the leads who seem to fall easily into their very peculiar roles. In the end, Warm Bodies is a mildly flawed film, but there’s enough charm and excitement and yes, even a healthy dose of action and gore thrown in for good measure to make a genuinely unique vision, proving that yes, there is indeed love after the zombie apocalypse. — TK


9. Much Ado About Nothing — Joss Whedon’s Much Ado About Nothing succeeds to the degree you’re willing to accept its genial “Let’s put on a show” vibe. Shakespeare’s play is famous for its wit and romance, and Whedon’s skills with both make him a nice fit for the material, but as an actual film, the final product is only somewhat successful. Whedon shot the film in under two weeks at his house and employed a stable of actors he’s used several times over in various TV and film projects, and there’s no doubt he’s got a love for the play. But the film’s execution raises a number of questions that Whedon can’t, or won’t, answer. The action is updated to the present day yet the language is the same as it was 400 years ago. The logistical reasons are clear — it’s cheaper to have your cast wear regular clothes and talk Elizabethan than the other way around — but the narrative ones are never addressed. Similarly, while they play’s conceits could be justified in its original setting, it’s less clear in the film why, say, the villain is allowed to spend so much time milling about with people who have openly avowed their distrust of him. Whedon makes a few nods here and there to modern life (characters have cell phones and luxury sedans), but beyond that, he doesn’t so much update the story as exhume it, pulling it from the tomb of history and dragging it around a Santa Monica estate. It’s a worthy experiment, with all the tension that entails. — Daniel Carlson


10. Star Trek Into DarknessStar Trek Into Darkness is both a fantastic space action film, and an excellent Star Trek film. The two are not necessarily coterminous, and they could easily be mutually exclusive. There are battles, a mystery to be unravelled, Benedict Cumberbatch utterly nailing the role of both villain and sympathetic foil to Kirk, a scattering of comic relief, and repeated call backs to the previous films of the franchise. And those call backs work most deeply because they are not simply references but partial reconstructions of scenes such that the new and old resonate like tines of a tuning fork. — Steven Lloyd Wilson

The 5 Worst

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1. Movie 43 — It is meant to be a Kentucky Fried Movie kind of experiment, but whoever put the wheels in motion on this film clearly doesn’t understand that that kind of film — a series of intentionally offensive shorts designed to be as shocking, appalling and as politically incorrect as possible — doesn’t work in our current cultural environment, especially when the shocking and appalling pitches aren’t actually funny. I mean, Trey Parker and Matt Stone backed out of this, not because it is offensive, but presumably because they didn’t want to be associated with something as abhorrent to comedy as Movie 43. The whole movie — from why it was made, to why the stars agreed to do it, to why it was released — is just baffling. I’m not trying to sound hyperbolic; I honest-to-God don’t understand. — Dustin Rowles


2. A Haunted House/Scary Movie 5 — I suppose Paranormal Activity and the like have had it coming. Marlon Wayans’ latest horror spoof aims to do what “South Park” did to “Ghost Hunters”; that is, to illustrate through all manners of crudeness and wicked humor the logical fallacies inherent in such source material. Unfortunately, A Haunted House manages to muster up the crudeness in spades, but the effort falls flat due to nonexistent humor and one of the most inept scripts ever known to man (despite slick as hell production values). It’s a shame that Wayans has seen fit to poke fun at the found-footage subcategory of horror flicks without actually making sure that his audience would take delight in the output. Nobody expected a truly good movie from A Haunted House, but this didn’t need to be an experience that was not only completely pointless and miserable but also shrill to the extreme. A Haunted House comes off as almost exactly the same as its source movies spliced into one 90-minute, goopy mess with absolutely no scares but lots of added drugs, ghost-fucking “jokes,” and wholly gratuitous use of the N-word. Somewhere in the mix, there’s a giant pile of Wayans poop on display as well, but it’s not really important for you to know the specifics on that note. It goes without saying that I may never feel clean again. — Agent Bedhead


3. The Big Wedding — It absolutely cannot be emphasized enough how boring this movie is. So, so, criminally boring. Boring in a way that finds itself fascinating. A specimen from Planet Boredom. Like overhearing someone’s conversation at dinner who finds themselves fascinating and witty, when everyone else in earshot is trying not to pass out from boredom. Every scene sort of listlessly peters out, like the last gasps of air fluttering from a deflating balloon. Half the time the acting feels so phoned in it’s as if the actors just went off script because they couldn’t be bothered to learn their lines. Hopefully that is the case because nobody could truly write a script this bad and think it had enough merit to turn it into an actual movie. The worst part about it is that it isn’t actually bad enough to be fun. There’s no guilty pleasure to be found here, just mediocrity that is forgotten the instant the credits begin. — Amanda Mae Meyncke


4. Safe Haven — Safe Haven is far from the worst movie I’ve ever seen. It’s certainly not Footloose-bad. It’s weak, watered-down, bland, utterly predictable, pointlessly mawkish and emotionally manipulative, but still, I’ve seen worse. No, the more egregious crime is how unbelievably, staggeringly boring it is. Clocking in at just a hair under two hours, it’s an interminable slog, a film so gooey and syrupy in pacing and content that after a while you start to forget what the outside world is. You’ll begin to think that all there is is darkness and light and flashing pictures of smiley faces and frowny faces, as the people next to you haplessly trying to hold onto their own dignity in the face of the poor decisions that brought them to this place. It creates a sense of camaraderie, as if you’re all comrades-in-arms in the same tepid, endless vortex of saccharine, emotionally overwrought suckiness. Seeing Safe Haven in the theaters isn’t so much a filmgoing experience as much as it is the physical embodiment of the death of hope.TK


5. A Good Day to Die Hard — It’s a weak and disappointing film for many, many reasons, but the biggest is probably the sad manner with which the film eagerly tries to wind the clock back and trick the viewer into think that it’s still 1988 outside. The hero here is once again John McClane (Bruce Willis), and the villains are once again scuzzy Europeans. It’s been 25 years since the first Die Hard, but there’s no attempt here to update the story or evolve with the times. The film longs so desperately for the narratively simpler days of the Cold War that the enemies are actual high-ranking Russian political figures. What’s more, director John Moore and writer Skip Woods don’t hesitate to re-enact moments from the original film, which does nothing but underscore just how amateurish and forgettable their sequel is. The writing is thudding and predictable, the direction shows a staggering lack of understanding of basic visual space, and the filmmaking is so clumsy that certain scenes and beats have been omitted presumably because no one figured the viewers would care. It coasts smugly on its namesake, unable or unwilling to do anything to feel fresh or entertaining. If it weren’t for the franchise branding, it’s unlikely this film would even have been made. If only. — Daniel Carlson

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Comments Are Welcome, Bigots and Trolls Are Not

  • HashMaster9000

    Credibility lost when "Star Trek (In Name Only)" was on the "Best" list...

  • okayflint

    aye yo wheres the simon killer tho

  • Milan

    Warm Bodies....really...really? Stop writing about movies please. Thank you

  • mark miller

    From a zombie action movie viewers perspective it was never going to be good, but on the other hand it is probably the best romcom that's come out in a really long time, maybe even ever.

  • MrG

    warms bodies was a load of crap. WTF!?

  • e jerry powell


  • Jezzer

    Wasn't "Frances Ha" twee hipster bullshit with a remarkably unlikable protagonist who stubbornly refused to get hit by a train?

  • Confused

    Warm bodies?

  • BlackRabbit

    A movie that might have made it onto the top list, and not the bottom one? Fast 6. It never lies about what it is and gives you everything you want in that kinda film. How many can say that?

  • lana

    Star Trek Into Shit was.......complete shit.

  • llp

    I... did not like Iron Man 3. I thought it was all 'splosiony and lacking heart.

  • John G.

    Shakespeare is almost always done in different periods. That doesn't mean you change the text. The original actors in the original shakespeare plays wore costumes from their own era too, regardless of what era the play was in. I remember when Ian McKellen did Richard III, he changed all "thou" to "you" and people freaked out.

    That being said, it wasn't a good film. I'm sure it was fun to make, but like the Oceans films, that doesn't make it fun to watch. I think he only did it because after making the biggest, highest grossing film of all time, he wanted to make a tiny film. You don't get much tinier than filming an entire movie in your own house with a couple of friends. Fillion's Dogberry was better than Michael Keaton's, of course. And I love Garfunkel and Oates, but Riki Lindhome, honey, Shakespeare is not for you.

  • apsutter

    Upstream Color sounds intriguing and that picture is lovely so I'm sold! This list made me realize that I need to catch up on movies(too much wonderful tv!!) because I've only seen one.

  • toblerone

    You got 1 out of 10 right.

    10. Star Trek Into Darkness.

    I love that movie and it's already odds on pick for Best Movie of 2013 for me (The World's End Or Only God Forgives might steal the #1 spot but they will probably be my top three).

  • Amanda, we really need to stop climbing into the indie shame-hole at that mall multiplex we both go to. It's warping our brains to fight for recognition for really good indie films at all costs. Frances Ha and The Iceman at 2 and 4? Stop sharing my brain space.

  • Gigi

    Upstream Color was almost incoherent but yes, it was shot very well I'll give you that. Not sure if it's a 10 best. I am intrigued by This is the End but it may be actually a bunch of young actors and their cinematic posturing. I'll wait till Netflix.


  • Idle Primate

    Now that's scathing. Foreign type names provide a perfect shortcut from thinking about a movie. Now I know how to criticize Spielberg (schlameelberg), Del Toro (Del Torso), and Michael Bay (gay).

    And aren't eastern names a riot? Amirite?

  • opiejuankenopie

    I'll re-learn how to properly spell and say his name when he re-learns how to make a good movie.

  • Idle Primate

    Of course you won't but good on you for deflecting

  • Tinkerville

    I'd add Monsters University to the list. Not Pixar's best work by any means, but still better than the majority of movies that have been released this year.

  • kushiro -

    A Good Day to Die Hard may be one of the worst movies of the year (or ever), but it gave us this, which is awesome:

    (Seriously, watch this)

  • Finance_Nerd

    "In terms of noise alone, it's probably the best film ever." I think there may be some movies that are contenders for this, but awesome quote. I think I will plagiarize it in the future.

  • AudioSuede

    That clip brought light to my day.

  • Mrs. Julien

    Oh sweet Christ, the fremdschamen. Excrutiating.

  • AudioSuede

    I know it wasn't a groundbreaking movie by any means, but I liked Admission more than both Warm Bodies and Star Trek. It had a lot of heart, and really played with a lot of its more worn genre conventions.

  • Erin S

    Man, I picked the wrong time to scroll through those 5 worst films. I'm sure the higher-up who just walked by my cubicle has a whole slew of questions about not only the ball sack on Hugh Jackman's chin, but the gimp who tumbled down after.

  • Uriah_Creep

    I actually ended up watching Movie 43 (don't ask), and Hugh's ball sack isn't even remotely the worst thing about the movie. Chew on that for a minute (that may be asome inappropriate phrasing, but so be it.)

  • PDamian

    I purely loved Star Trek Into Darkness. So there.

    Moving right along ...

    This is going to sound really weird, but This Is The End gave me food for thought for at least a couple of weeks. I agree with TK: the movie is "without depth, nuance or subtlety." All the same, I had a good time pondering Rogen and Goldberg's implicit assertion that the expiation of a lifetime of sins can be accomplished with a single honest and sincerely selfless act. In Roman Catholicism, expiation during one's lifetime is an ongoing act, through the Mass, through acts of contrition and mortification, and through the sacrament of Reconciliation (among other ways). If expiation is not achieved in one's lifetime, one is relegated to Purgatory for the cleansing of sin prior to ultimate unification with God. I've spent more than a few minutes wondering if Franco's house and all that happened in it wasn't a stand-in for Purgatory.

    I also wondered if Protestants in the movie audience didn't feel a bit cheated. The Protestant Reformation was fought for many reasons, but one of the central arguments was the "faith vs good works" question: is salvation attainable through faith in Christ Jesus only, or with a lifetime of good works? I've been in enough Protestant churches and read enough Christian apologetics to be familiar with the "sola fides, sola scriptura, sola gratia" cry: only faith saves, only the grace of God saves, and only what is written in Scripture can be a guide to salvation. Under that belief, the boys in Franco's house were doomed, despite their attempts to be good, simply because their actions were not impelled by belief in God's grace or founded in Scripture -- at least, in any real knowledge and understanding of Scripture. I had a quiet laugh at Baruchel waving the Bible about while being lamentably ignorant as to its contents. Likewise, screaming at a possessed Jonah Hill that "the power of Christ compels you!" while Hill screamed back, "Movie lines? That's what you got?" was a pretty good illustration of that principle. Furthermore ...

    ... am I just overthinking the whole mess, and I should just sit back and enjoy the movie? Probably. Sorry. I really need to drink more.

  • AudioSuede

    I specifically liked that aspect of the movie because they basically treated it like science fiction: They picked and chose the bits of mythology necessary to make their plot work, and fucked with the details to make it funny, without regard to literal interpretation of scripture. It made it easier to not take any of it seriously, because it was so absurd it was refreshing.

  • John W

    Come on you can't use the Scary movie franchise (or other movie of its ilk). That's like submitting a book report on what you did over the summer by repeating I went to the beach over and over. It's a cheat.

  • Fredo

    I don't know that Into Darkness is Top 10 Best material nor do I know if it's Top 5 Worst.

    BTW, I can't wait for Elysium, Pacific Rim, Gravity, Wolf of Wall Street and The World's End.

    And what's more likely to join the Bottom 5? The Lone Ranger, Grown-Ups 2 or R.I.P.D.?

  • AudioSuede

    Which one has Adam Sandler? That one.

  • BWeaves

    Warm Bodies was underwhelming.

  • Mrs. Julien

    So Warm Bodies was tepid?

  • AnnaKendrick'sLoveMuffin

    Lukewarm Bodies

  • Mrs. Julien

    I ♥ all y'all, eh?

  • ,


  • BWeaves

    You guys!

  • Finance_Nerd

    Did it leave you feeling dead inside? Are you craving something that's more brainy?

  • Idle Primate

    So, no pajiba love for Canada Day, eh?

  • BWeaves

    I've never heard of that movie.

  • Lovely Bones

    Canada Day would be the newest terrible ensemble romantic comedy a la New Year's Eve, Valentine's Day and the seminal Martin Luther King Day, only its entire cast consists of the biggest Canadian actors in Hollywood, those whose fans largely have no idea that they're Canadian.

  • See and that definitely makes me wonder whether there's a particular Canada Day common custom (a la Valentine's Day or New Year's Eve.) Is there?

  • Lovely Bones

    No idea, I'm only French-Canadian by descent.

  • Mrs. Julien

    Seriously, why the oversight, eh? They know how sensitive we are. Jesus Murphy! I bet they're all just fu*king the dog, or in the washroom, when they should be deke-ing all over the internet looking for Maple Syrup Canadians.

  • Idle Primate

    I know! We're gonna pull back on the toque advertising

  • Mrs. Julien

    No timbits for anyone!


    Upvotes for all my fellow, lovely Canucks!

    Shall I start?
    O Canada
    Our home and native land

  • Mrs. Julien

    You can start, but I may weep.


    Alright so I shall start and continue...
    True patriot love in all thy sons command.

    With glowing hearts we see thee rise,
    The True North strong and free!

    From far and wide,
    O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.

    God keep our land glorious and free!
    O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.
    O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.

    et en français...

    O Canada! Terre de nos aïeux,
    Ton front est ceint de fleurons glorieux!

    Car ton bras sait porter l'épée,
    Il sait porter la croix!

    Ton histoire est une épopée
    Des plus brillants exploits.

    Et ta valeur, de foi trempée,
    Protégera nos foyers et nos droits.

    Protégera nos foyers et nos droits.

    Happy Canada Day! Bonne Fête du Canada!

  • MissAmynae

    i already miss hockey :-(

  • jthomas666

    You put Star Trek ID in the wrong list. For the pre-credit sequence alone, it may well have set a record for the sheer tonnage of stupid. And that was BEFORE it shat all over Wrath of Khan.

  • Mrs. Julien

    Is it just me or is the Frog of My Heart packing heat in your avatar?

  • jthomas666

    Kermit has a new plan for dealing with the Doc Hoppers of the world... ;)

  • Mrs. Julien

    He brings a knife, you bring a gun. He brings a trident, you bring an AK47...

  • That really escalated quickly.

  • Joe Grunenwald

    Man, if STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS is one of the top 10 best of the year so far, then it's been a pretty shitty year for movies so far.

  • alex prank

    404 error: Knowledge of opinions not found

  • AudioSuede

    It really has been a bad year for movies. I didn't like a single new movie this year until nearly the end of March, and that was Admission, which is admittedly a forgettable, if sweet, little movie. I didn't absolutely LOVE any movie this year until Iron Man 3, and I know a lot of people who weren't crazy for it. All the budget flicks showing up at the theaters around here are just awful, and it really underlines how dreadful the first few months were this year.

  • apsutter

    It really and truly has! The bf and I usually go to the movies constantly but from early December until about April or May we didn't go because every weekend it was just tons of trash.

  • zeke_the_pig

    You, sir, are a sage and a wise man indeed. 100% agree.

  • Natallica

    In my country IT HASN'T OPENED YET. And you had it and hated it? Godberbatch hates us all

  • Joe Grunenwald

    Godberbatch is about the only watchable thing in it.

  • lowercase_ryan

    I have seen NONE of the 5 worst! I win again!

  • Mrs. Julien

    Mr. Julien saw Man of Steel last night and I dare say he'd add it to this list. He was ranting about how awful it was when he got home and again this morning. He even did impressions of Henry Cavill's bad acting. He hasn't been that angry at a movie since Skyfall.

  • Idle Primate

    It was that bad

  • zeke_the_pig

    Did his impressions consist of several vaguely earnest, yearning, pretty poses without any hint of substance underneath? I have a quite regal-looking, hollowed-out desk lamp that has much the same effect.

  • Mrs. Julien

    Yes, and a running commentary: I am standing over here. See me looking. I am concerned. See me standing and looking over here and being concerned. "Are you okay?" freeze 2...3...4...

    He said he looked like he was posing for GQ, but with that kind of brawn he was actually posing for Men's Health and Fitness. Also, the word "wooden" came up a lot in a short period of time. Whatever, I'm still buying whatever Cavill is selling.

    There was a lot of raving about the script (Mr. Julien is a screenplay consultant) and about the nature of Superman, but I was all, "But doesn't he have great hair? Can I go back to my book now? You don't understand, he's the male Halle Berry."

    And then I found $5.

  • zeke_the_pig

    Money can be exchanged for goods and services

  • Joe Grunenwald

    I would like to subscribe to Mr. Julien's newsletter.

  • alwaysanswerb

    At the moment, my lone requirement of Henry Cavill's "acting" is that he continues to do something resembling it in high definition.

  • Mrs. Julien

    I am right there with you. He is one of the best looking men I've ever seen, easily top 5, andIreallyneedtostopbabblingabouthim,

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