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About that Time Morgan Freeman Got Into a Heated Argument with a Physicist About 'Existence'

By Dustin Rowles | Industry | June 5, 2014 |

By Dustin Rowles | Industry | June 5, 2014 |

I’m relaying this story, via EW, for two reasons: 1) I love the idea that Morgan Freeman got into a heated argument — with profanities — with a physicist that will soon air on the Science Channel’s Through the Wormhole, and 2) because the debate over existence before the Big Bang fascinates me, and because I believe so firmly in Morgan Freeman’s position.

Have you ever gotten into any interesting arguments with people?

I got into an argument once with a physicist. I said, “There’s a difference between the universe and space.” They said, “No, there can’t be.” I said, “Okay, you say the universe is expanding.” They go, “Yes.” I said, “Well then, what is it expanding into? Is it not expanding into anything?” They said, “Look, try to think of a balloon.” “Fine, what about a balloon?” “Well, when you blow up the balloon, the balloon expands and everything on the surface of the balloon expands away from everything.” I said, “Yeah, but the balloon is expanding into what? There’s space around the f—in’ balloon! So you’re gonna tell me there’s no such thing as space, and I say there is. So it’s your word against mine.”

[Laughs] “It’s your word against mine.”

But it’s true. They say just before the Big Bang, there was what they call a singularity. Nobody’s ever quite explained singularity, but that was what it was. I say, “Okay, so where did this singularity exist?” “Well, there was no existence. There wasn’t anything.” “No, it had to exist in something, it had to be something for it to do anything. I mean, it had to come from somewhere to be somewhere. It’s in space, it’s in space.” They say, “No, no, space and time all started at the same time. Space-time started with the Big Bang.” I go, “All right, that’s your theory, I got mine.” [Laughs]

And this question, in my mind, is exactly why — though I’m agnostic — I won’t rule out the possibility of God. Because there had to be something before the Big Bang, right? A higher power had to be responsible singularity, right? Something had to exist beyond that fucking balloon! And somebody must have put it there, because existence didn’t just come into existence, did it?


I open the floor up to the rest of you. Please explain existence.

Source: EW

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