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Reddit Asks The Question: 'Which Villain Actually Had a Point?'

By Petr Knava | reddit | June 5, 2017 |

By Petr Knava | reddit | June 5, 2017 |

You know what they say: One man’s hero is another man’s Brigadier General Frank Hummel (Ed Harris) in The Rock.

In other words, ‘Which Villain Actually Had a Point?’


Brigadier General Frank Hummel (Ed Harris) in The Rock.
He wants to give money to the families of Recon Marines who died on clandestine missions but who the government wouldn’t compensate.


Maleficent. I’m quoting here:
“In medieval culture, an event like a royal christening is not a private party; it’s the public social event of the year. To not invite any person of rank to such an event is a deadly insult. …The only way the King and Queen could possibly have gotten away with not inviting Maleficent was to not invite any of the fairies at all; inviting the other fairies and excluding her is explicitly taking sides in the conflict between the fairy factions.
Which means they made themselves her sworn enemies, and she responded by treating them as such from then on. If you actually get into analyzing the social dynamics of the scene, it’s very clear that Maleficent was willing to show mercy at first by giving the King and Queen a chance to apologize for their disrespect to her. She doesn’t curse Aurora until after she gives them that chance.”


Roy Batty. Blade Runner. The replicants were just trying to survive! They were created to be slaves, and despite what everyone CHOSE to believe, the replicants had complicated, human emotions and experiences. All they wanted was the chance to live a long, happy life. There’s nothing wrong with that.
Also, Roy’s final speech (especially the tears in rain line which was an improv), was incredibly moving.


Not quite what you meant, but I find the story of Medusa quite sad.
She was originally a beautiful woman. She was so beautiful that she catches the eye of Poseidon. Poseidon is a god and he gets what he wants. He wants her, so he rapes her in a temple to Athena. Athena, despite being the Goddess of Wisdom, is all “Well you should’ve known better than to get raped inside my temple. And she punishes Medusa by turning her into a gorgon.
So Medusa has now been raped and lost everything and she can’t even talk to anyone about it. Everyone that looks at her turns to stone and dies. So Medusa retreats and lives in solitude. Until a “hero” comes looking to kill her just for the fame. Then another “hero” and another. She spends years dodging men who would kill her because of her curse. Tormented because of a choice made for her. Until one day one of those “heroes” (Perseus) actually succeeds and murders her.
She wasn’t a villain with a point. She was a tragic story to warn girls about the perils of being too beautiful.


The giant in Jack and the Beanstalk. Jack is a thieving little shit who repeatedly breaks into the giant’s house and then murders him when he gets caught.


Jim Lahey. Sure, he might be a drunken shitbird, but all he wants as trailerpark supervisor is to make Sunnyvale a half-decent place to live. Instead, he is getting constantly fucked-over by nearly EVERYONE in the park.


The Wicked Witch. She just wanted her sister’s shoes. Glinda comes along, magics them onto Dorothy’s feet, and antagonizes the witch.


I would say Magneto. He always thought that humans would wipe mutants out, and to be fair, they tried to!


Scorpius from Farscape. Yeah, he’s a relentlessly amoral manipulative bastard and sometimes murderer… but the Scarrans he wants to defeat are every bit as bad and as dangerous as he says, possessing superior forces to the Peacekeepers and with an intent to enslave the entire galaxy. By that standard, Scorpius’ methods are extreme but maybe necessary.


Benny from the musical “RENT”.
He just wanted his friends to get jobs and pay their rent like responsible adults. He even goes so far as to offer his two former roommates free rent and guaranteed jobs in their field. In New York City, which is not only I) one of the most expensive places to live in the world, but also II) one of the most saturated arts markets in the world.
All he asks in return is that they get Maureen to cancel her shitty performance art so that businessmen who own a property can develop it. But no: that would be selling out! Then his friends act like dicks at a café and shame him in front of his business colleagues. Then, to add insult to injury, Angel kills his dog. She kills his dog! And the protagonists just laugh it off.

Ultron. He probably spent five minutes on YouTube and decided that humanity had to go.


Mewtwo from the first Pokemon movie. He was created just to be a tool for destruction, and then eventually favors that our own actions decide who we are, and to not be judged on where we came from. Mewtwo just wanted to find his place in the world.


Red Hood/Jason Todd basically wanted two things: tighter control over Gotham’s criminal underworld (if you can’t destroy it, at least make sure you’re not trafficking people or selling drugs to kids) and the Joker’s head on a platter. Batman’s morals obligated him to interfere, but I honestly don’t think most of the audience really had a problem with either of those goals.


Tom from the Tom And Jerry cartoons. Mice are disease spreading freeloading vermin and he was just doing his job as a housecat. He often gave the mouse plenty of warning to vacate the premises.


Pretty much any villain from Pirates of the Caribbean.
Barbosa in the first movie wanted to break a curse so that he and his crew could actually feel stuff again.
Davy Jones wanted Jack Sparrow to pay his due instead of procrastinating and cheating him.
And in the latest movie, Salazar wants to kill Sparrow because he’s the reason Salazar’s crew is all cursed. Like Barbosa, he too wants to be human again.


Dr. Frankenfurter. He didn’t invite Janet and Brad into his house. He and his crew were just doin’ their thing when a couple prissy, judgmental 20-somethings broke into his home.


Barry Dylan on Archer.
Archer dropped him twice, abandoned him in space, blew him up, and sodomized his fiance.


Shere Khan in the live action Jungle Book.
“Don’t let that human in, his Dad set fire to my face”.
Nobody listens.
“Don’t let that human in, he’ll set fire to the forest!”
Nobody listens.
Human sets fire to forest. Human kills Shere Khan with fire. Everyone is inexplicably happy that the endangered tiger died.


I am late, but Elmer Fudd. 1st encounter with Bugs Bunny ended with him being thrown into a lake and Bugs watched and laughed as he drowned. All Elmer wanted to do is nature photography .
His grudge is justified.


Ozymandias was right. In order to stop a world in the brink of nuclear war, tragedy needs to strike in order to unite all of man kind against a common enemy.
Millions died so that Billions would be saved.

Sylvester the cat. I hate that annoying Tweety bird! Same goes for Wile E. Coyote.


ACME is the real villain here peddling such low quality goods just because they have a monopoly on shipping their wares to the Sonoran desert.


Petr Knava
lives in London and plays music

Petr is a staff contributor. You can follow him on Twitter.

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